1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,347 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalk SEDB. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:14,547 Speaker 2: Well, great to welcome to a man who's been competing 4 00:00:14,587 --> 00:00:17,667 Speaker 2: as a professional match racer fleet racer since graduating from 5 00:00:17,747 --> 00:00:20,427 Speaker 2: Boston College twenty eleven. Have I got that right? Seven 6 00:00:20,507 --> 00:00:22,787 Speaker 2: time world champion, one of the best match racers in 7 00:00:22,867 --> 00:00:26,787 Speaker 2: recent memory. United States Sale GP team driver Taylor Canfield. 8 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:28,747 Speaker 3: Nice to see you, mate, Yeah, thanks for having me. 9 00:00:28,747 --> 00:00:29,947 Speaker 3: It's great to be here now. 10 00:00:29,987 --> 00:00:32,347 Speaker 2: Of course, you're appointed driver of the US team midway 11 00:00:32,347 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 2: through season four. WHI chatted in Christchinch a year ago 12 00:00:35,947 --> 00:00:37,987 Speaker 2: or thereabouts. How are you feeling ahead of event too? 13 00:00:38,267 --> 00:00:40,587 Speaker 2: In your first full season as driver? 14 00:00:41,947 --> 00:00:42,547 Speaker 3: So excited? 15 00:00:42,987 --> 00:00:44,627 Speaker 4: You know, I just have the opportunity to drive one 16 00:00:44,627 --> 00:00:48,147 Speaker 4: of these incredible machines, is you know it's a dream 17 00:00:48,187 --> 00:00:48,627 Speaker 4: come true? 18 00:00:49,507 --> 00:00:49,707 Speaker 2: Yeah? 19 00:00:49,747 --> 00:00:51,467 Speaker 4: And you know, to be able to travel around the 20 00:00:51,507 --> 00:00:54,667 Speaker 4: world to you know, locations like this, in this racetrack, 21 00:00:54,947 --> 00:00:57,867 Speaker 4: in front of this amazing city, you can't beat it. 22 00:00:58,507 --> 00:01:00,987 Speaker 2: How challenging was it dropping into the team midway through 23 00:01:01,027 --> 00:01:01,707 Speaker 2: season four? 24 00:01:03,227 --> 00:01:06,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's no words to really explain it. 25 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:09,307 Speaker 4: To to hop into a new new class and uh 26 00:01:09,467 --> 00:01:11,427 Speaker 4: and competing against the best boats and the you know, 27 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:13,467 Speaker 4: the best sailors in the world and the fastest boats 28 00:01:13,467 --> 00:01:13,827 Speaker 4: in the world. 29 00:01:14,627 --> 00:01:16,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's full on. Uh, I think that's the 30 00:01:16,947 --> 00:01:17,667 Speaker 3: best word to say. 31 00:01:17,707 --> 00:01:20,547 Speaker 4: And but yeah, you know we're making do and uh, 32 00:01:20,867 --> 00:01:23,627 Speaker 4: things are definitely coming along and uh, you know, the 33 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:26,227 Speaker 4: progress we've made as a team is awesome so far. 34 00:01:26,307 --> 00:01:27,827 Speaker 3: But you know, I know there's a lot more to 35 00:01:27,827 --> 00:01:28,307 Speaker 3: come as well. 36 00:01:28,427 --> 00:01:30,067 Speaker 2: You want to talk about the progress and the good 37 00:01:30,067 --> 00:01:33,107 Speaker 2: start to to this season, but what were the big 38 00:01:33,787 --> 00:01:36,547 Speaker 2: lessons I guess you took personally out of season four 39 00:01:36,667 --> 00:01:38,187 Speaker 2: or you'll part in season four. 40 00:01:40,627 --> 00:01:43,547 Speaker 4: For me, probably, uh, you know, just trying to be 41 00:01:43,627 --> 00:01:46,547 Speaker 4: as consistent and concise as I can with my communication. 42 00:01:47,547 --> 00:01:50,347 Speaker 4: You know, it's so everything is happening so quickly in 43 00:01:50,467 --> 00:01:53,267 Speaker 4: in this racing, in this format. Uh, you just need 44 00:01:53,267 --> 00:01:55,587 Speaker 4: everyone on board to be on the same page and 45 00:01:55,587 --> 00:01:58,147 Speaker 4: and that usually creates an environment for things to go well. 46 00:01:58,507 --> 00:01:58,787 Speaker 3: Uh. 47 00:01:58,827 --> 00:02:01,667 Speaker 4: So it's uh, you know, I say it a lot 48 00:02:01,707 --> 00:02:03,187 Speaker 4: that we're racing ourselves out there. 49 00:02:04,427 --> 00:02:05,947 Speaker 3: Again, the boats are so complex. 50 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:11,027 Speaker 4: Every maneuver requires so much concentration and just pure finesse 51 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:14,787 Speaker 4: with everyone on board that yeah, we need everyone super 52 00:02:14,787 --> 00:02:16,707 Speaker 4: tuned in and ready to go, and if if you 53 00:02:16,747 --> 00:02:19,467 Speaker 4: have good communication, then everyone knows what's coming and usually 54 00:02:19,547 --> 00:02:20,107 Speaker 4: things go well. 55 00:02:20,147 --> 00:02:21,987 Speaker 2: I love it you we use the word for nice. 56 00:02:22,107 --> 00:02:23,627 Speaker 2: I think that's the first time I've heard that word 57 00:02:23,747 --> 00:02:25,907 Speaker 2: used in relation to the fifties. I want to talk 58 00:02:25,947 --> 00:02:27,467 Speaker 2: about the New t Falls in a moment, but I 59 00:02:27,507 --> 00:02:29,787 Speaker 2: understand there was quite a bit of off season training 60 00:02:29,787 --> 00:02:31,387 Speaker 2: for the for the USA team, is it right? 61 00:02:32,267 --> 00:02:35,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, super fortunate. We had a great training camp in Bermuda. 62 00:02:36,627 --> 00:02:40,587 Speaker 3: I mean, what what is fine? I'll take that for sure. 63 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:44,107 Speaker 4: And then some great training leading up to Dubai. You know, 64 00:02:44,187 --> 00:02:47,707 Speaker 4: the first event of twenty twenty five season. We spent 65 00:02:47,747 --> 00:02:51,387 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving over there, which is a bit controversial, but it was. 66 00:02:51,507 --> 00:02:52,027 Speaker 3: It was fun. 67 00:02:52,067 --> 00:02:54,987 Speaker 4: You know, we had our good, solid group and their 68 00:02:55,027 --> 00:02:57,067 Speaker 4: culture is incredible in our team, so that was that 69 00:02:57,147 --> 00:02:59,227 Speaker 4: was nice to have, you know, what felt like family 70 00:02:59,307 --> 00:03:00,387 Speaker 4: surrounding us for that. 71 00:03:00,387 --> 00:03:03,947 Speaker 2: Well, it obviously worked third in Dubai. How happy were 72 00:03:03,947 --> 00:03:04,307 Speaker 2: you with it? 73 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:07,707 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, static to be on the podium. 74 00:03:07,827 --> 00:03:11,907 Speaker 4: Uh, it's it's this is just ruthless sailing, you know, 75 00:03:11,987 --> 00:03:14,667 Speaker 4: it's We're gonna have our ups and downs, but a 76 00:03:14,667 --> 00:03:16,547 Speaker 4: great way to start the season. And you know, to 77 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:20,827 Speaker 4: win win the first race of the twenty twenty five season. Uh, 78 00:03:20,947 --> 00:03:23,907 Speaker 4: that's that's something cool too. I hope that we've wrapped 79 00:03:23,947 --> 00:03:25,067 Speaker 4: everyone up for the season to come. 80 00:03:25,227 --> 00:03:28,427 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it must have been a buzzy because first, the seventh, seventh, sixth, 81 00:03:28,787 --> 00:03:31,907 Speaker 2: second to qualify third for the final. So what makes 82 00:03:31,947 --> 00:03:34,067 Speaker 2: the difference between a first and a second or a 83 00:03:34,107 --> 00:03:34,987 Speaker 2: sixth and a seventh. 84 00:03:36,187 --> 00:03:38,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's forget about the middle races. 85 00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:38,267 Speaker 2: You know. 86 00:03:38,427 --> 00:03:41,707 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's hard to bring it up to. No, 87 00:03:41,827 --> 00:03:42,387 Speaker 3: it's all good. 88 00:03:42,387 --> 00:03:46,307 Speaker 4: It's uh again, it's a game of inches. It's again, 89 00:03:46,387 --> 00:03:51,507 Speaker 4: it requires so much, I guess, just teamwork and uh, 90 00:03:51,587 --> 00:03:53,507 Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't take much for things to go 91 00:03:53,987 --> 00:03:55,307 Speaker 4: you know, completely bad. 92 00:03:56,267 --> 00:03:59,347 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just about uh, execution. 93 00:03:58,987 --> 00:04:01,227 Speaker 4: And and everyone doing their jobs on board and and 94 00:04:01,227 --> 00:04:03,747 Speaker 4: and making sure that again everyone's ready for that that 95 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:06,947 Speaker 4: next thing. So the more foresight we can all like 96 00:04:07,027 --> 00:04:09,307 Speaker 4: we can have as a team on board, the better 97 00:04:09,307 --> 00:04:09,787 Speaker 4: it's gonna go. 98 00:04:10,187 --> 00:04:13,147 Speaker 2: How much, uh is it or have different? 99 00:04:13,267 --> 00:04:13,427 Speaker 4: Is it? 100 00:04:13,547 --> 00:04:16,267 Speaker 2: Sorry? With the new high speed t foils, what what 101 00:04:16,347 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 2: adjustments have you hit to Mike? 102 00:04:18,707 --> 00:04:20,147 Speaker 3: Uh, there's definitely high speeds. 103 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:25,027 Speaker 4: We can confirm that but yeah, you know, it's not 104 00:04:25,187 --> 00:04:27,667 Speaker 4: too much has changed. Uh, some of the jobs on 105 00:04:27,707 --> 00:04:30,707 Speaker 4: boards have changed. The flight controller's job has gotten more complex. 106 00:04:30,747 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 4: You know, before we just had the rake of the 107 00:04:33,547 --> 00:04:35,387 Speaker 4: foils fore and aft, and now we have the rake 108 00:04:35,427 --> 00:04:38,227 Speaker 4: of the foils in and out as well. So you know, 109 00:04:38,267 --> 00:04:41,547 Speaker 4: we've added this three dimensional uh kind of take to 110 00:04:41,627 --> 00:04:44,307 Speaker 4: the new hydrofoils and. 111 00:04:43,587 --> 00:04:45,707 Speaker 3: It really affects the balance of the boat. 112 00:04:45,787 --> 00:04:49,547 Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, you know, the how much helmload we're 113 00:04:49,587 --> 00:04:52,787 Speaker 4: getting For me personally, it's been a big change. 114 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:55,147 Speaker 3: So just getting used to that and trying to figure 115 00:04:55,187 --> 00:04:58,347 Speaker 3: out new ways to be you know, innovative to you know, 116 00:04:59,587 --> 00:05:00,947 Speaker 3: just get the most out of these boats. 117 00:05:01,707 --> 00:05:04,027 Speaker 4: But yeah, pretty cool. I mean they're fast, they accelerate 118 00:05:04,107 --> 00:05:06,787 Speaker 4: really quickly. You know, I think we're gonn see more 119 00:05:06,827 --> 00:05:09,347 Speaker 4: g forces. We can really throw the boats around. There's 120 00:05:09,387 --> 00:05:11,907 Speaker 4: there's a lot of grip we like to call it, 121 00:05:11,947 --> 00:05:13,867 Speaker 4: where the boat feels really attached to the water. 122 00:05:15,027 --> 00:05:18,027 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's uh, it's a work in progress for everyone. 123 00:05:18,067 --> 00:05:20,547 Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, watching some of the teams 124 00:05:20,587 --> 00:05:24,107 Speaker 4: and and and ourselves go around the racetrack yesterday, there's 125 00:05:24,507 --> 00:05:26,867 Speaker 4: it could be some real v moments. So everyone hold 126 00:05:26,907 --> 00:05:29,227 Speaker 4: on and yeah and enjoy the show. 127 00:05:29,307 --> 00:05:30,827 Speaker 2: So you're kind of learning as you go in some 128 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:32,387 Speaker 2: ways with with the new FORLS. 129 00:05:32,867 --> 00:05:36,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it's uh, it's a new game and we're 130 00:05:36,347 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 4: all adjusting and figuring it out quickly. 131 00:05:38,267 --> 00:05:39,027 Speaker 3: And you know, this. 132 00:05:39,187 --> 00:05:43,027 Speaker 4: Shared data source for for Sale GP just makes it 133 00:05:43,067 --> 00:05:46,387 Speaker 4: that much the learning process that much quicker. But there's 134 00:05:46,387 --> 00:05:48,227 Speaker 4: a lot of ideas out there right now, and you 135 00:05:48,227 --> 00:05:49,947 Speaker 4: can see it in the data that people are trying 136 00:05:49,987 --> 00:05:53,947 Speaker 4: different things on crazy radical ends of the spectrums, and 137 00:05:54,787 --> 00:05:56,987 Speaker 4: you know, not not always. You come back in after 138 00:05:56,987 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 4: a day's sailing and you go through all the data 139 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:01,747 Speaker 4: and you're like, well, that didn't work, so you got 140 00:06:01,787 --> 00:06:03,827 Speaker 4: to go back to the drawing board and try something new. 141 00:06:03,907 --> 00:06:05,987 Speaker 4: But you don't always have to try the things, which 142 00:06:06,027 --> 00:06:07,827 Speaker 4: is nice because other teams are doing that for you 143 00:06:07,907 --> 00:06:08,267 Speaker 4: as well. 144 00:06:08,467 --> 00:06:10,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that they can make your mistakes for you 145 00:06:10,547 --> 00:06:12,867 Speaker 2: and say, well we'll rule that out, we won't do that. Yeah, 146 00:06:13,107 --> 00:06:14,467 Speaker 2: you've had quite a bit of experience in the M 147 00:06:14,547 --> 00:06:16,867 Speaker 2: thirty two's who them describes as a kind of a 148 00:06:16,907 --> 00:06:19,067 Speaker 2: slow down version of a New fifty. So has your 149 00:06:19,107 --> 00:06:21,627 Speaker 2: experience in the M thirty two has helped in your 150 00:06:21,827 --> 00:06:22,907 Speaker 2: in racing any fifty. 151 00:06:23,587 --> 00:06:26,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and I think a lot of uh, you know, 152 00:06:26,747 --> 00:06:30,667 Speaker 4: I guess some of our starting starting success out of 153 00:06:30,667 --> 00:06:32,747 Speaker 4: the racetrack has come from the M thirty two class 154 00:06:32,747 --> 00:06:35,587 Speaker 4: and that routine that we've set up in something I've 155 00:06:35,587 --> 00:06:38,307 Speaker 4: sworn by for for many years. But yeah, you know, 156 00:06:38,307 --> 00:06:40,507 Speaker 4: it's it's been a progression for me from you know, 157 00:06:40,547 --> 00:06:42,987 Speaker 4: the slow Monohl match racing to the you know, the 158 00:06:43,027 --> 00:06:46,187 Speaker 4: apparent win M thirty two sailing non foiling to now this, 159 00:06:46,587 --> 00:06:49,267 Speaker 4: you know is uh, it's been. It's been really cool 160 00:06:49,307 --> 00:06:51,147 Speaker 4: and it's taken a lot of getting used to it 161 00:06:51,267 --> 00:06:54,267 Speaker 4: for sure, you know, and have seventy knots of parent 162 00:06:54,307 --> 00:06:56,307 Speaker 4: win on the on the face, you know, trying to 163 00:06:56,387 --> 00:06:58,467 Speaker 4: communicate with your teammates is pretty full on. 164 00:06:58,787 --> 00:07:01,907 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I said, you had Liam Lawson in your right 165 00:07:01,947 --> 00:07:04,947 Speaker 2: in your team base. Was that yesterday? How do you reckon? 166 00:07:04,947 --> 00:07:07,667 Speaker 2: You go with a driver swapsk you reckon? You get 167 00:07:07,707 --> 00:07:09,627 Speaker 2: behind a Formula one car and he could drive this 168 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:10,067 Speaker 2: thing out of you? 169 00:07:10,787 --> 00:07:14,867 Speaker 3: Oh man, did you discuss? I would definitely give it 170 00:07:14,867 --> 00:07:16,987 Speaker 3: a go. How cool would that be? 171 00:07:17,867 --> 00:07:17,947 Speaker 2: No? 172 00:07:18,187 --> 00:07:19,707 Speaker 3: Liam, you know what a great guy. 173 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:22,707 Speaker 4: Uh, super pumped for him to have the seat uh 174 00:07:22,747 --> 00:07:24,867 Speaker 4: in the Red Bull car this season, and uh yeah, 175 00:07:24,947 --> 00:07:26,947 Speaker 4: we'll be following him. You know when when you meet 176 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:29,507 Speaker 4: someone and you get that extra special bond with them 177 00:07:29,507 --> 00:07:32,667 Speaker 4: and meeting them in person and they seeing their personality. 178 00:07:32,747 --> 00:07:33,507 Speaker 3: So that'll be really cool. 179 00:07:33,507 --> 00:07:36,227 Speaker 4: I'll be rerooting for him this season and uh yeah, 180 00:07:36,267 --> 00:07:38,467 Speaker 4: hopefully we can get them out later for a run 181 00:07:38,507 --> 00:07:40,147 Speaker 4: on one of these on these boats and seeity things. 182 00:07:40,187 --> 00:07:41,947 Speaker 2: And what doesn't surprise me, you jump in the rice 183 00:07:41,987 --> 00:07:43,627 Speaker 2: car because you struck me as a bit of an 184 00:07:43,627 --> 00:07:46,707 Speaker 2: adrenaline junkie, if you will. Instagram is to be believed. 185 00:07:47,187 --> 00:07:49,147 Speaker 2: Bungee jumping off the sky tower this week. 186 00:07:49,987 --> 00:07:50,547 Speaker 3: Yeah you know. 187 00:07:50,627 --> 00:07:53,427 Speaker 4: It landed in uh in Auckland, I think nine thirty 188 00:07:53,427 --> 00:07:54,227 Speaker 4: am and we're on. 189 00:07:54,147 --> 00:07:56,747 Speaker 3: The top of the sky tower at eleven o'clock, so 190 00:07:58,587 --> 00:08:01,507 Speaker 3: straight into it. I love it. I love the extremes. 191 00:08:01,507 --> 00:08:04,027 Speaker 4: And I used to jump off you know, these rocks 192 00:08:04,027 --> 00:08:06,027 Speaker 4: and cliffs as a little kid down in the Virgin Islands. 193 00:08:06,027 --> 00:08:08,867 Speaker 3: And yeah, I for some. 194 00:08:08,747 --> 00:08:11,867 Speaker 4: Reason, I don't know, it doesn't doesn't trigger my brain 195 00:08:11,947 --> 00:08:13,787 Speaker 4: to to have the fear when I'm up high like that. 196 00:08:14,547 --> 00:08:16,347 Speaker 4: Very lucky in that in that sense, I guess. But 197 00:08:16,707 --> 00:08:17,867 Speaker 4: I was ready to go. It's cool. 198 00:08:18,227 --> 00:08:20,107 Speaker 2: Outstanding probably helps you out here as well. So, hey, 199 00:08:20,107 --> 00:08:22,547 Speaker 2: you're feeling a few hours out from from the start off, 200 00:08:22,627 --> 00:08:23,507 Speaker 2: so gp Auckland. 201 00:08:24,507 --> 00:08:27,627 Speaker 4: Uh just pumped. I mean we were stailing out there yesterday. 202 00:08:27,627 --> 00:08:29,067 Speaker 4: I was looking back at the Grand Standard. 203 00:08:29,907 --> 00:08:30,667 Speaker 3: This is so cool. 204 00:08:30,947 --> 00:08:33,267 Speaker 4: The fact that you know, this, this sport here in 205 00:08:33,307 --> 00:08:36,907 Speaker 4: New Zealand is just, you know, such an incredible thing. Uh, 206 00:08:36,947 --> 00:08:39,787 Speaker 4: It's part of their culture and you know, I'm I'm 207 00:08:39,787 --> 00:08:42,787 Speaker 4: pumped to see how everyone's you know, gonna gonna be 208 00:08:42,787 --> 00:08:45,467 Speaker 4: here rooting us on. And you know we've already acquired 209 00:08:45,507 --> 00:08:47,547 Speaker 4: a few Kiwi fans if they've come through the base 210 00:08:47,587 --> 00:08:49,507 Speaker 4: and we've we've turned them from the Kiwi team. 211 00:08:50,067 --> 00:08:50,427 Speaker 3: Uh. 212 00:08:50,707 --> 00:08:52,867 Speaker 4: So that's uh, that's cool to see that people are 213 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:55,667 Speaker 4: here even in New Zealand rooining for us. And uh, 214 00:08:55,707 --> 00:08:58,907 Speaker 4: the race track's gonna be incredible. It'll be tight, eleven boats, 215 00:08:58,987 --> 00:09:01,547 Speaker 4: it's going to be full on out there. 216 00:09:01,627 --> 00:09:03,707 Speaker 2: Well we just count white. Hey, I'm Tyler. I'm sure 217 00:09:03,707 --> 00:09:06,027 Speaker 2: you lose a lot more fans across the weekend. It's 218 00:09:06,027 --> 00:09:08,427 Speaker 2: great I get the chance to catch up with you again. 219 00:09:08,427 --> 00:09:09,947 Speaker 2: All the best here in Auckland and for the rest 220 00:09:09,947 --> 00:09:11,787 Speaker 2: of season five of sal GP. 221 00:09:12,187 --> 00:09:14,747 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much, and yeah, be sure to tune 222 00:09:14,747 --> 00:09:16,587 Speaker 4: in and we'll put on a good show. 223 00:09:17,107 --> 00:09:20,267 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 224 00:09:20,387 --> 00:09:23,667 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow 225 00:09:23,707 --> 00:09:25,347 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio