1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Now there is a spectacle of the who's who in banking, 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: finance and politics in the making after the government today 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: announced a public inquiry into competition in the banking sector. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Parliament's Finance and Expenditure Committee will lead the inquiry. Genetib 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: Trainey is The Herald's Wellington Business editor and with us, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: hey do you know, hey, Heather, are we going to 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: get the banking top brass in there? 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: We are? We are? This is going to be a spectacle, 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: as you said. The Nichola Willis, the Finance Minister, has 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: said that she wants the bank CEOs and chairpeople to 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: be brought before the Finance and Expenditure Committee. That's a 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: committee made up of politicians, you know, and politicians from 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: all the parties. She wants the big bosses brought before 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: the committees and questioned on the competition or the lack 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: thereof in the banking sector. Now, she'd like the politicians 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: to look at not just retail banking, so you know, 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: not just what we pay on our mortgages and receive 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: for our term deposits, but also look at business banking 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: and banking. So the business and the rural banking are 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: two types of banking that aunts included in a review 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: that the Communs Commission is currently doing as well into 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: competition in the banking sector. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that there is a case to answer here? 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: Look, I think this, you know, this is an issue. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: The Commus Commission, I believe is best place to look 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: at it because you know, it's made up of experts 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: and it's doing a deep dive. It's taking a better 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: year to look into the issue. 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Communs Commission is not looking at rural ending. 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Is it. No, it isn't. Yeah, So that's a good point. So, 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, and actually that's an argument that maybe the 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Commus Commission sud shuld should have included that and definitely 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: should have included business banking. But I think what this 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: will do is provide the politicians with a bit of 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: a platform to, you know, to to grandstand on the issue, 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: but hopefully actually also achieve something. I think this will 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: receive a lot of media attention having those bank bosses 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: quizzed and also having the regulators quizzed. So now that's 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: another interesting part of this. This isn't just going to 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: be the bank boss is getting a bit of a 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: walloping from the politicians. It's going to be the regulators 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: as well, because some parties, particularly act you know, points 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: towards regulation as there is reim in competition. 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, there is real pressure coming on the Reserve 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Bank about these capital requirements. 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Right there is there is now the Communis Commission and 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: its draft report pointed to the Reserve Bank's capital rules. 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: These rules are there to keep banks safe, prevent them 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: from collapsing. But the ComCom was worried that you know 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: that the rules are preventing banks from lending to productive 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: parts of the economy and you know, making it difficult 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: for the small banks to compete with the big ones. 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: The ComCom raising this issue has given the banks oxygen 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: also businesses, the rural sect. It's given them all oxygen 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: to say these we don't like these bank capital rules. 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: But people have been following the news. The Reserve Bank 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: isn't having a bar of it and is saying, no, 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: we're sticking to the rules. We're not changing the rules. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: So you know, so having the Reserve Bank appear before 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: the politicians will also actually probably be one of the 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: most interesting parts of the inquiry to watch. 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: Yeah too, write hey Jena, thank you. As always, appreciated. 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Jane tib Trainey, The 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Herald's Wellington Business Edit. 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: News talks 'b from four pm weekdays, or follow the 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio