1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Kilda. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald. The first 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: stage of the thirty seventh America's Cup is about to 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: begin the world's longest continuous sporting competition. Team New Zealand 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: will be looking to defend their title in October. Their 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: challenger is due to be decided over the coming weeks 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: as the Louis Vuitton Cup gets underway in Barcelona. But 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: in amongst all the intrigue about which team will come 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: out on top, there's a lot of background as to 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: why this is all happening on the other side of 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: the world rather than in our backyard. And Zaid Herald's 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: sports reporter Christopher Reeve will be heading to Barcelona for 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: the main event, but joins us now on the Front 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: Page to preview what's coming up and a recap of 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: why it's happening overseas. Christopher, can you give us a 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: rundown on how the Louis Vuitton and America's Cup are 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: going to run this year? 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Yes, so, the Louisvuton Cup is the challenger series obviously 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: sponsored by Louis Vuitton, so they've got that name. This year, 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: it's going to be a little bit different in the 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: sense the Team New Zealand the Challenger are the defenders. Sorry, 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: They're going to be competing in the round robin series 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: of that Challenger series. So you've got two round robins. 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: At the end of those two round robins, the bottom 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: team on the table will drop out and that'll be 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: their campaign done three and a half years done. Like that, 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: Team New Zealand will also drop out at that point, 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: and then you've got the semi finals. The four remaining 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: teams go head to head and then top two the 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: winner of that one goes on to the Cup match. 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: And who are the teams that will be hoping to 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: challenge Team New Zealand. 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: You got any Us Britannia from the UK, they're the 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Challenger of Record, Lunaros Aprador Perelli I'll get that name 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: right from Italy, Orient Express Racing team from France, American 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: Magic from the New York Yacht Club and Alingi Rebull 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: Racing from Switzerland. They're another new team this year back 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,279 Speaker 3: in the swing of things. 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: The Royal Yacht Squadron Racing Limited aka the British team. 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: I suppose issued the challenge for this event the Royal 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand Yacht Squadron. Back in twenty twenty one, right 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: after Team and Zed defended the Cup, You've got some 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: big news. A challenge has been lodged, it's been accepted. 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Who is it? 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: Well, the Royal Yacht Squadron has accepted a challenge from 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: the Royal Yacht Squadron in the UK for the thirty 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: seventh America's Cup. The main thing I guess right now 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: is we'll be selling you know, the same boats AC 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: seventy five, so we should see them out again, you know, 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: hopefully in New Zealand. 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: But is this just one old fashioned formality I suppose, 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: or is there a real meaning behind that? 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a little bit of a meaning behind it, 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: which is why so many of the challenges want to 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: be in that position. Basically, the first yacht club to 57 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: issue a challenge to the defender and has that accepted 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: as the Challenger of record, and that just means they 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: get to be in the room on some of the 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: decision making and they get to run the Challenger series 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: in August, so they get a little bit more skin 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: in the table, I guess you could say. But Yeah, 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: The America's Cup is one of those strange sporting events 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: where basically the winner gets to make all the rules, 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: and so this just has a challenger in a position 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: to I guess be involved in that a little bit. 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: And who are the key players on Team Me and 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Z's side this time? Are we seeing that dynamic duo 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: of Peter Berling and Blair Chuke back on the water? 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: We are. 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different this time around. The makeup 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: of the boat's going to look a little bit different 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: because they're going to have two helmsmen rather than just 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Peter Berling as the main helmsman. So they've brought in 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: Nathan Aldridge, who's a very very well credentialed Australian. He's 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: gonna helm on one side of the boat. Pete's gonna 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: helm on the other. Blairchuk is going to be flight 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: controlling and trimming, and Andy Maloney's going to be there 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: as well, So he's come back. And we're going to 80 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: see the cyclas this time around as well, rather than 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: just having grining pedestals. So a little bit different, but 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: a little bit the same. 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: I understand that the teams will be racing on ac 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: seventy five yachts this year. What do we know about 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: these boats? 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: This will be the second generation of those boats, So 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: those are the ones that got brought in for the 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: regatta in Auckland, which probably wasn't the best sailing that 89 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: you could see on those boats. The weather wasn't ideal 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: to get them up and foiling as much as they 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: probably would have liked. So I'm hoping this time around, 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: in the second generation, they've made changes to the number 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: of crew on board, so they've got eight this time 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: around rather than eleven, and the boat's going to be 95 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: a little bit lighter. Hopefully they've figured out a little 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: bit more how to operate in the light years. But yeah, 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: it's a second time we'll see these in a campaign, 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: so hopefully we'll see a little bit more of an 99 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: advanced product. 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Do you know what the environment's like for those boats? 101 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Where they're going to be sailing this year. 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: Very different to Auckland, And I guess as a fan 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: of the sport, it's got me quite intrigued that they've 104 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: taken it to Barcelona, because I guess where they're going 105 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: to be sailing is a lot bumpier than you get 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: out in Auckland. We saw out in Auckland that try 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: and find sort of the flattest, most calm see that 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: they could sail on out in Barcelona. They don't really 109 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: get that choice. They have one race course and basically 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: they have to deal with the sea state out there. 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: As we've said, Team New Zealand are defending the America's 112 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: Cup once again, but for the first time they won't 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: be defending it in New Zealand. Can you give us 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: the rundown on what led to CEO Grant Dalton taking 115 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: it overseas, starting with them rejecting a ninety nine million 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: dollar offer from the government in Auckland Council to bring 117 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: it back in twenty twenty one. 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Grant Dalton has always been very clear on 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: the number that he believed was needed to run a 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: successful campaign, and he's always emphasized the campaign being successful. 121 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: He wants to basically put the team in the best 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: position to win, rather than do an underfunded one and 123 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: they lose at home. So he's always been very clear 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: on the number, and he didn't believe that the number 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: on the table from New Zealand was going to be enough. 126 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Barcelona came with a little bit more. They've got the 127 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: infrastructure there, and he said an interview last week the 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: week before that moving it to Barcelona was worth about 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: twenty million to their campaign. 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 5: If you win the event like we have, it's one 131 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: hundred million dollars just to run the event, and in 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: New Zealand that would be impossible to raise. Because we're 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 5: running the Youth and Women's America's Cup. We're building a 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: series of hydrogen boats, so we've been able to do 135 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 5: a range of things that we would not have been 136 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: able to do to increase the sport and increase their 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: visibility being here in Barcelona. 138 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: In the end, I can see why he's done it. 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: I can also see why local fans were unhappy at 140 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: the time, and some probably still are. 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: Do we have any idea of how much taxpayer and 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: ratepayer money was invested in setting up for the thirty 143 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: sixth America's Cup and building all those facilities down by 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: the waterfront. 145 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the reports that came out afterwards suggested more 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: than two hundred and fifty million of public money was 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: invested into that regatta. That obviously included infrastructure down at 148 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: the viaduct, a lot of temporary stuff, so all the bases. 149 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Now there's only one really left there, which is the 150 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: one team New Zealand have taken over after they moved 151 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: out of the Viaduct Events Center. Yeah, they basically turned 152 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: that viaduct into a race village and when the campaign 153 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: was over, that all disappeared. So there's not really any 154 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: traces of that down there now. But I know they 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: did some work around the Key Street area and the 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: Wynyardwarf area to kind of, I guess, upkeep the areas. 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: I know there were some projects brought forward, so a 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: little bit went on. 159 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: There was a lot of disappointment at the government and 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: council level at the time about this decision about not 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: bringing it back, and that flowed over to the public. 162 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Do you think there's still that touch of resentment over 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: what happened or do you think people will move on 164 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: once we actually get into the racing again. 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting one. It depends on I guess 166 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: what position you're in the council and government level. I 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: think they would have hoped to get at least another 168 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: campaign out of their investment, because you have to remember 169 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: for the thirty six America's Cup COVID hit, which meant 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: they didn't get all the super yachts coming in to watch, 171 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: which really kind of hit how much they could make 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: from that campaign. So a second campaign in the current 173 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: conditions you might have seen a different result there. And 174 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: fans of the sport put it in the context of rugby, 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: like if the All Blacks won the World Cup and 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: had the right to choose where it was hold next, 177 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: if they didn't choose New Zealand, I think there'll be 178 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: some pretty unhappy rugby fans. So it's the same with sailing. Obviously, 179 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: this is the pinnacle event in the sport and people 180 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: want to see it. And the fact that if they 181 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: want to watch it live, they're going to have to 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: make their way to Barcelona. I don't think many people 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: were too happy about that. 184 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: We'll get up really really early, right, Yeah, that's the. 185 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: Other thing, even if they want to watch it live. 186 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: I was looking yesterday at the preliminary Regatto which is 187 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: on in a couple of weeks, and the racing for 188 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: that is at two pm in Barcelona, which is about 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: midnight New Zealand, so some late nights ahead. 190 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Sports old Trophy, maybe New Zealand's Cup, but the race 191 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that you the key we taxpayer has think hundreds of 192 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: millions of dollars into is sailing away to Spain. Nearly 193 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty million was pumped into the twenty 194 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: twenty one America's Cup over four years. The Council's contribution 195 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: was mainly for services in kind, including free rents at 196 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the waterfront event center. Was always taken for granted that 197 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: if Team New Zealand won, it would defend it here 198 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: next time. 199 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: So media reports I've been prepping for this frame Team 200 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: New Zealand as underfunded. Is that a real concern for 201 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: the team or are they perhaps underfunded compared to our 202 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: international counterparts. 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: I think that would just be in comparison to who 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: they are up against, and I guess the budgets behind them. 205 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: America's Cup teams are very very secretive about their operations 206 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: and don't like to reveal too much. But you look 207 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: at Eneos Britannia, who are backed by Jim Ratcliffe who 208 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: runs Ineos, a lot of money behind them. They've been 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: working with the Mercedes Formula One team as well, so 210 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: it's not just money, it's also what they can access 211 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: in terms of their design and their build and all 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: the different minds that come into it, and it's the 213 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: same with a Lingy. They've got a relationship with Red 214 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: Bull Racing and obviously Lunarosa prior PERELLI. We know that 215 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: they've been there, they've done that, they got good backing, 216 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: So I think it's just in relation to who they're 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: who they're coming. 218 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: Up against, and that money that goes towards things like 219 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: what the boat and stuff. How much do those boats cost? 220 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: Do we actually know? 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, 222 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: and I think if I researched it, you can maybe 223 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: find a number, but I would imagine they're very expensive 224 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: boats because they're very specific to this sport, so you're 225 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: not going to find them anywhere else. You're not going 226 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: to find the parts anywhere else. 227 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Do you think the government could really even justify giving 228 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: that kind of money to a team that has multiple 229 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: sponsors or. 230 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: I think so. A few people might disagree, but I 231 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: feel like if they believe it's worth it, why wouldn't 232 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: they offer to invest in the team, and even in 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: the event moving forward, you know, if it was to 234 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: pay off, it all just comes down to whether it's 235 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: worth it in the end, like everything. 236 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: Else, and early bets on here, Chris, but we are 237 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: looking to the future on this podcast. So do you 238 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: think Team New Zealand can win for the third time 239 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: in a row. 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: Team New Zealand can definitely win for a third time 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: in a row. The fact that their design team kind 242 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: of came up with the concept for these boats is 243 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: always going to be a big plus in their favor, 244 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: regardless of this being the second generation and teams having 245 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: more I guess understanding of how they work. I feel 246 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: like Team New Zealand are always going to have just 247 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: that little bit extra of being able to figure things 248 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: out with the boats. They have the sailing team to 249 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: win it. They've had the training, the time to I 250 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: guess build those combinations with the different setups. The one 251 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: thing we haven't seen yet is the new race boats 252 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: actually racing against one another. So for the last month 253 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: or so they've been in Barcelona and on the race 254 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: course together and you see the odd sort of cross 255 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: between the teams because it's a very small area, but 256 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: they've been prohibited from actually racing against each other, so 257 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: you can't really work out who's going well who's not. 258 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: So that last preliminary regatta, which is in Barcelona. That'll 259 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: really give you a good indication of where every team 260 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: is at this point in the campaign. So I think 261 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: every team at the moment will be confident, but once 262 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: they see how the others are really going, then you'll 263 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: start to see I guess some wheels turning. 264 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Christopher. That's it for this episode 265 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: of The Front Page. You can read more about today's 266 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: stories and extensive news coverage ends it dot co dot z. 267 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: The Front Page is produced by Ethan Siles with sound 268 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: engineer Patty Fox. I'm Chelsea Daniels. 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