1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: If one is back this weekend, of course in Melbourne. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Liam Lawson is a second full season with Racing Bulls. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Testing has been fascinating with new regulations, new cars and 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Barcelona and bar Rain of course, so what to expect. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Liam Lawson is back with us. 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, Thank you very much for having me, 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: not at all. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: A couple of really important questions. First of all, one, 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: the golf. Where are we at? 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: It's probably not much better. The problem I have is 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: it's a game of consistency, and with the way my 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: schedule is, I can't have any consistency in the game. 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: So I sort of improve a little bit that I 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: have three weeks off and I get sort of go 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: back in the wrong duration. 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: So it's not good. 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Are you naturally gifted? Can you say that about yourself? 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: And if you were able to dedicate some time things 19 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: would improve? Are you just not that good at all? 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: I think a lot of things, yes, but and golf 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: definitely not naturally gifted. 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Golf is a game that, like. 23 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: The amount of swing thoughts that I have when I'm 24 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: pulling that cli back is insane compared to just driving 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: a car or doing something else. 26 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: It's kind a very overwhelming experience. 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: All right. Second question the music. How's the music? Have 28 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: you released anything yet? 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: No? Nothing officially. It's good. It's very good. 30 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: It's something that I obviously as I get more adjusted 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: and used to being informal one, I can sort of 32 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: spend a little bit more time playing music as while. 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: I have a really cool relationship with Taylor Guitars at 34 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: the moment as well, and have a guitar that now 35 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: travels with me to every one of the hotels that 36 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: I sat. I have a that goes there. Yeah, it's 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: really really cool. I have it and then at the 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: track as well, so I have two guitars that travel 39 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: to each race. One goes to a driver room at 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: the track so in between sessions I can pick it 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: up and play it, and one goes to the hotel 42 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: for end of the day. 43 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. 44 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: You sound like mcjegger. It's like a rider. That's what 45 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: they call the rider. So every time I tune up 46 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: in a town, I've got to have a guitar and 47 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: some grapes and some champagne and stuff like that. I mean, geez, 48 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: what a rock star. 49 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: It's it's it's when I realized how good it was 50 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: for just the mind, just to sit and play, and yeah, 51 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: it's pretty it's pretty cool, it's it's it's a very 52 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: good way to sort of destress after either a session 53 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: or after a day. 54 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: Good second full season car recide and we'll talk about 55 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the cars in a moment. But the second season, do 56 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: you enter with a different level of confidence given that 57 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you've been here before? 58 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: I think in some ways maybe, but obviously because we 59 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: have you know, the new cast is here, it's a 60 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: lot more there's a lot more. 61 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Question marks. 62 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot more knowns at the moment 63 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: because we just don't know everybody. You know, testing is 64 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: running as they are, but we have no idea what 65 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: fuel loads people are running, what engine modes are running, 66 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: What's how much that's showing normally not very much. So 67 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: in some ways yes, person on a personal level, I 68 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: feel very comfortable and. 69 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Excited for the season. 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: But in a lot of ways, obviously, with these new cars, 71 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: there's a lot of unknown How. 72 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Much some work did you do on the new car 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: before you got into the new car itself. 74 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: We started doing it towards the end of last year, 75 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: so very very early. 76 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: But the problem is with all the similar work we 77 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: tried to limit it because you can do as much 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: as you like in online simulations, but until you drive 79 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: the car and we actually correlate it's the real car 80 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: to SEMs, it's sometimes not that good so or it's 81 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: not as accurate. So it's something that I spent more 82 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: time in the sort of early part of the season 83 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: when I went back to Europe after I drove the car. 84 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Heaven forensically followed this in Barcelona and Bahrain. These are 85 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: the questions everybody's asking so downforce, regin, gear changes, breaking, overtaking. 86 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Have I left anything out? I mean, it seems everything, 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: everything seems different. 88 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's it's very it's very very, very. 89 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Very complicated. I guess this is probably the best word. 90 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: To use when driving is a lot more sort of 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: a lot more screen thoughts. Let's say, when when driving 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: these cars, the battery management is just is very very important. 93 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: It's very it's very tricky for a start to get 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: it perfect. 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: Over a lap. 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: You're sort of warm up to start the lap, to 97 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: make sure you have a feel battery and during the 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: lap to not use too much energy otherwise you'll pay 99 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: the price towards the end. Of the lap and then 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: in a long run and the race, that's the same thing. 101 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: Trying to manage it is very very tricky. 102 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the next question. Is it going to 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: be I mean, who knows. I don't think anyone knows 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: anything at this point of time. But will it because 105 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of the battery management of the region, will it very 106 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: widely your ability to run that depending on what the 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: track is. 108 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 109 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: The thing is some tracks you get away with it 110 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: and you probably won't notice on TV and for us 111 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: as drivers, we won't have to stress too much or 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 3: as much, let's say, for for that management. 113 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: A track like. 114 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: Bahrain, where you have lots of braking zones and periods 115 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: off throttle, it's quite low grip there, so you're a 116 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: lot of coasting periods and off throttle breaking and where 117 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: you can charge that battery. 118 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: But a place like Melbourne is very much you're on. 119 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: Throttle a lot of the a lot of the a 120 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: lot of the way, and when you are off throttle 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 3: it's very brief, so you don't have enough time to charge. 122 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: So the difference between those two tracks is massive. We've 123 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: tested obviously Bahrain, spent a lot of time there, but 124 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: we've done simulations for Melbourne and it's it's quite an 125 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: eye open. 126 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: It's a how different it's going to be. Even in qualifying. 127 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: You know, the management we're going to have to do 128 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: is something you know, qualifying you're expect to get in 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: the car and you be flat out. 130 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: But I don't think we're going to be able to 131 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: do that. 132 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Jews, do you the start? All the stuff they're saying, 133 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: the start is a problem. You're going to wind the 134 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: engine up, get the turbo going. Is that an issue? 135 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's I guess it depends on how you 136 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: look at it. I guess none of it's really an issue. 137 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: It's just the way the new It's just the way 138 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: it is right now. And I think that with new 139 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: regulations always at the start of it, there's there's definitely 140 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: a period where you have to adjusting it use of things. 141 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure, and in a couple of years time the. 142 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Development will be a lot more advanced than it is 143 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: right now and we'll have much better systems. But right now, 144 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: in the early part of it, it's it looks like 145 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: more of issues, feels like more of an issue, right 146 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: but it's it's also an opportunity you know, I guess 147 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: for us as drivers as well. You know, in some 148 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: ways there's a bit more that we can do to 149 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: help things, depending on how good we aren't management and 150 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 151 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: All right, so we all know. I guess ly in 152 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: what Lewis has said, he is not a massive end 153 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: of the new rules, max Is. It's like formulae on 154 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: steroids all that sort of stuff. So I mean, is 155 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 1: the is it fun or not really yet? 156 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: I would say for me, not yet. I don't think 157 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: it's super fun. 158 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: But I mean that in some ways the car moves 159 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: around quite a bit more, And it depends on how 160 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: you look at it. 161 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: You know, that can be that can be more enjoyable. 162 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: But obviously we're trying to extract every body laptome out 163 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: of the car and and in some ways it feels 164 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: like you can't attack as much as you could in 165 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: the past when you have a lot more downforce and 166 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 167 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: So it depends on how you look at it. 168 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: For me so far, at the end of the day, 169 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: and a sport like this, you're going to enjoy it 170 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: if you're fast, and you're probably not gonna do it 171 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 3: if you're not faster. 172 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: So do you know. 173 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean they've ranked all the sides. I mean, these 174 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: are just people who have been observing, and you came 175 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: in at sixth. All the team came in at sixth 176 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: or seventh, and you know, you had Ferrari at the 177 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: top with Mercedes and stuff like that. Do you have 178 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: any genuine idea where you're at? 179 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Ish, that's the really hard part. I honestly, I don't. 180 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: We have all these predictions and things like that that 181 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: we that we sort of look at and try and 182 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: calculate what other teams are doing, but it's very hard 183 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: to know. So I think there's a there's a that 184 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: sort of top four, top teams. 185 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: They seem to have. 186 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: A bit of an edge on the field in terms 187 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: of what order they are at. It's really hard to know. 188 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: And then for us, I think we're in that next group, 189 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: and it's very hard again today in that order where 190 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: we're at. So yeah, at the moment, it's I think 191 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: we're in that sort of second group somewhere around there. 192 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel the size difference when you talk about 193 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: a place like Monico. The cars looked silly at Monaco though, 194 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: just too big. These are smaller cars. Do they feel 195 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: smaller look, you know, do they fit better. 196 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: They do feel a little bit smaller, I would say 197 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: a little bit more playful, I would say to drive, 198 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: But I think the main reason for that is just 199 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: because we have a significant amount of error taking off 200 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: the car. When you have a car that's extremely high downforce, 201 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: it's designed to push through the air and a straight line. 202 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: As soon as you start sliding the car, you lose 203 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: a lot of that downforce because you're starting to hit 204 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: the air on an angle with your and. 205 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: It basically upsets the car massively. 206 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: Whereas when you have a car with this downforce, that 207 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 3: sort of sensitivity is a lot less. You can slide 208 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: a bit more and get away with it, so they're 209 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: a bit more playful. 210 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Do you feel reliabilities was going? I mean most sides did, 211 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: with a few obvious exceptions, did good laps in Bahrain Barcelona. 212 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Are they reliable? 213 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: They are? 214 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: To be fair, Yeah, we've had Like for us, we've 215 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: probably surprised ourselves with with our with our you know, 216 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: with our power unit, with. 217 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: Rebel power trains and with Ford. Our our stuff so 218 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: far has been really really good. 219 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: But that's not to say that it's not gonna be 220 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: an issue because I think with new engines, there's there's 221 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: definitely going to be a a reliability factor in there, 222 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: which will be really really important, especially at the start 223 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: of the season. I think, yeah, that's going to be 224 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: something that's I think you'll see a lot of teams 225 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: struggling with the start the season. 226 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Where as you enter the second full time season of yours, 227 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: where do you reckon? You're at lynd Bled for example, 228 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: he's a brand new rookie. You to the grid. Lewis 229 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time. We're in that Venn diagram? 230 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: Are you? It's hard? It's hard to know, I think 231 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: the Yeah. 232 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: On a personal note, it's more obviously having a season, 233 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: you like, I learned a lot last year. It was 234 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: a very very important season for me, especially to survive it. 235 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: I think that's been a you know, something that I 236 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: I've learned a lot from, probably more than a lot 237 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: of people would learn from a season, just because of 238 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: all the things that we went through. So on that side, 239 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: I'm grateful to have done that and feel a lot 240 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: better going into this year. But just because of new 241 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: cars and new regulations, it sort of throws a whole 242 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: new thing in there that's quite unknown, so I never 243 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: feel fully's I don't know, you know, fully fully prepared 244 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: or probably not the right word, but it's ready for 245 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: something that I'm just not one hundred cent sure on 246 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: how it's going to be. 247 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Ye, you haven't seen Drive to Survive yet or have you? 248 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: No? I haven't seen them. I probably won't fair enough. 249 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I just I've seen episode one. You're behind the scenes 250 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: in London at the O two standing there with Max 251 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: and Pierre Gasly and Ghazzly is surprised when you talk 252 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: about your perm in a way you're perm. 253 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so that made Netflix. 254 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: That's great, comes up and Gettley goes really in a 255 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of a why did you get the perm? 256 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: Going? 257 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: What happened there? So now the perm's out there? 258 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Yes, well now it's officially. 259 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean I just tried to tell people that it 260 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: was my natural hair, but obviously most people don't believe 261 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: that anyway. So yeah, maybe I'm thinking of changing things 262 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 3: up again this year. No way, it's going to be 263 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: a surprise. 264 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the ex I can't what because you 265 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: have what? Because you've signed another deal with Taylor and 266 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: you've got your own hairdresser at the each locker room 267 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: now or because it's it's just it's because trends change 268 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: and you've got to know, you've got to stay with him. 269 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: So at the moment it's I don't know what I'm 270 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: going to do, but color or shape, I can't tell 271 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: you that. 272 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: But you've got to You've got a plan, haven't you. 273 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: Not honestly, not really, it's just I'm just open to it. 274 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: You're going to change it, all right. Listen, it's lovely 275 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: to catch up with you as always. Go well in 276 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Melbourne this weekend and hopefully we'll chat before the end 277 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: of the season. 278 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: Perfect. Thanks, Thanks mate, He's good, Liam Lawson. 279 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 280 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: News Talk Set B from six am weekdays, or follow 281 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.