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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find a fack and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Drive with One New Zealand and the

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Speaker 1: Power of Satellite Mobile News Talks NEV.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show coming up today. Chris Bishop on

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Speaker 3: dropping the two million new houses for Auckland. That's a

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Speaker 3: U turn. Al Gillespie on whether there really is a

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Speaker 3: ninety percent chance that the US is going to war

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Speaker 3: with Iran And do you do what's called grocery tourism.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking this Apparently a lot of people do this.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Allen, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, finally Chris Bishop has done the right thing and

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Speaker 3: done the U turn on the two million new houses

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Speaker 3: that he had planned for Auckland. Now it's not altogether

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Speaker 3: a surprise that he did this and announced this this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: because this has been rumored to be coming for months.

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Speaker 3: Because of the obvious problem, which is that it's election year.

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Speaker 3: Auckland is a key battleground. Aucklands are obsessed with houses.

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Speaker 3: Auckland voters who own their houses are already stressed out

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Speaker 3: about this plan, and if it turned into an election

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Speaker 3: issue and got proper media coverage, more would have become

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Speaker 3: stressed out, and that would mean that Blue Auckland voters

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Speaker 3: So it was a problem for National so Bishop had

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Speaker 3: to back down. But in reality, it's not just politics,

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Speaker 3: is it. It's actually reality too. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: it is fair that an Aucklander who has sunk one

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of money. An Aucklander who sunk that

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Speaker 3: much money into their home, it is fair for them

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Speaker 3: to be stressed out at the thought of a multi

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Speaker 3: story apartment popping up next to your next door, blocking

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Speaker 3: the view, blocking the light, ruining the privacy whatever. We

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Speaker 3: mock these people as nimbi's, but actually I think it

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Speaker 3: is fair for them to want to protect the place

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Speaker 3: that they live in. Don't you want to protect the

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Speaker 3: place you live in. This battle, though, is far from one.

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Speaker 3: So anybody looking at this and thinking that was a

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Speaker 3: has done is to reduce the number of new houses

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Speaker 3: to the point that it shouldn't impact on suburbs. But

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Speaker 3: whether it does impact on suburbs is a decision for

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Speaker 3: Auckland Council and that is a decision yet to be taken.

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Speaker 3: So while it should on balance be okay until the

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Speaker 3: what this is is one you turned down and one

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Speaker 1: Ever, dup c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is the text number. Standard text fees

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Speaker 3: apply and of course, as I said, we'll speak to

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Speaker 3: christ Bishop after five o'clock. Now, the government is going

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Speaker 3: to make it easier for community clubs to serve booze

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Speaker 3: at president. At present, a lot of sports clubs, working

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Speaker 3: men's clubs RSAs sell liquor through a club license which

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Speaker 3: Now Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee says she's going to

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Speaker 3: change that. She's going to allow the clubs to apply

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Speaker 3: for a non license. Lucy Waters is Chief Executive of

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Speaker 3: Clubs NZ and with us now, Hi Lucy, hello, how

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Speaker 3: are you? And well thank you? What's wrong with the

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Speaker 4: The current license for a club license, it only allows

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Speaker 4: clubs to sell or supply alcohol to their members, guests

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Speaker 4: of members or affiliated members. So members from a club

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Speaker 4: we find is that most people just don't realize that

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Speaker 3: How long have these rules been in place?

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Speaker 5: Forever?

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Speaker 3: But well before my time. I have never been a

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Speaker 4: That is a good question, because under the settings, they

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Speaker 3: Well, is it possible that I have come in as

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Speaker 4: So if you've ever gone into a club and you've

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Speaker 3: In, then that that would be That would be fine? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I see Now, why is it that clubs have had

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Speaker 4: They are prevented under the current Sale and Supply of

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Speaker 3: An online Why why? Lucy? That is a good question.

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Speaker 3: Isn't life in this country full of very good questions?

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Speaker 3: About the stupid rules that we have.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is so that that's one of the questions

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Speaker 3: Okay, so once this rule changes, does that mean that

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Speaker 4: If they choose to. So, if this all goes through,

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Speaker 4: the clubs will have a choice over whether they retain

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Speaker 4: So if they move to an unlicense, then they'll be

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Speaker 4: able to open the doors and in the public will

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Speaker 3: I mean, we might actually decide at the fishing club

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Speaker 3: much keep the rules, but does it exactly Lucy, is

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Speaker 3: this potentially part of the problem with arisays and why

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Speaker 3: they're dying.

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Speaker 4: We we do think that, and this is an issue

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Speaker 3: List of rules that they need to comply with.

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Speaker 4: So if we can start removing some of those barriers,

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Speaker 4: look at their options and start modernizing and becoming community facilities.

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Speaker 3: He is hoping. Lucy, thank you very much. Appreciate appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That's Lucy Water. It's Club's New Zealand chief executive.

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Speaker 2: Have you got it? Ends? Have you got it?

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a stupid rule.

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Speaker 3: That's right, countries full of them. Hey, guess who popped

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Speaker 3: up at Chris Bishop's press conference this afternoon to heckle him?

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Speaker 3: Old mate Karl Mukaraka. You remember Carl Morkaraka. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: the one who was hanging over the two meter fence.

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Speaker 3: Remember when Chris Chris, Chris lux and rather was doing

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Speaker 3: his press conference during the twenty twenty three election. Old

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Speaker 3: the other thing he did was he grew himself a mustache,

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Speaker 3: Party conference and just started heckling them about all in Sundry.

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Speaker 3: And then today he popped up again.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Three assurances, said, oh that's fun.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take long and beautiful, I'll make his post.

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Speaker 3: I can't say for sure that Carl had anything useful

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Speaker 3: become my favorite heckler, not only because it is difficult.

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Speaker 3: It's very, very hard not to be impressed by his

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Speaker 3: range of interests. Like he pops up everywhere on any subject,

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter what it is, black rock, housing, whatever, he's

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Speaker 3: got something to say about it. But he is unfailingly polite.

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Speaker 3: He is just He's a decent heckler. He's not the

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Speaker 3: one that makes you feel threatened. It's okay to have

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Speaker 3: Carl heckle you. So well done, Carl. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 3: This is not a lie.

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Speaker 2: But no.

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Speaker 3: Sooner had I finished talking about Carl than I looked

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Speaker 3: This is not talkback, Carl, but I appreciate your efforts

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Speaker 6: You know that's what I call my mullet day, Carl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we don't know this, although I will say

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Speaker 3: happy days. You haven't been sporting that mullet for I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, gone, I got a regular short back

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Speaker 8: Do you think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the special.

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Speaker 6: Is it because you have a girlfriend and I'm shaving regularly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is it because you have a girlfriend, No, No, it's not.

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Speaker 6: It's because m mullet normally came from a place of rage,

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Speaker 6: and I'm not so angry anymore. So I don't know

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Speaker 6: if to have this haircut that seys you get away

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Speaker 3: Because you have a girlfriend, you just make around with that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the lady influence in your life.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought that Zoe would be a little

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Speaker 6: They're not really prone to disappointment on the outside, are

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Speaker 6: they not? Really? These athletes see snow athletes, and I

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Speaker 6: that's but on the third rail escenily that she had

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Speaker 6: didn't quite look right. And I looked that before she

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Speaker 6: I wonder if that's going to cost her gold point

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Speaker 6: But she's got five medals now in Winter Olympics. First

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Speaker 6: She's sitting at five. Now they're calling it a mountain goat.

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Speaker 6: What's another name for a mountain goat a tar, right,

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Speaker 6: So she's the tar because the real goat, the goat

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Speaker 3: I'm amazing mountain goat.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't mine. I heard it from someone else.

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Speaker 3: So Billy Stalmond's got a wild cart to play and

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Speaker 3: it's a coming.

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Speaker 6: The surfing events to play in the sea. People awayse

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Speaker 6: He's a nine time national champ. Billy Stammon calls himself

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Speaker 11: Lizerve Bank, you gavin a cash right, unchanged two to five.

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Speaker 12: But we will adjust according to how we see the

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Speaker 11: When you say you were just yes you do, but

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Speaker 11: made the mistakes. How confident in that committee are you?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm very confident.

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Speaker 13: We are going to ensure that we get inpression back

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Speaker 1: They'd be cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's heatherd the clan drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 3: This business with the clubs and the booze makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I love going into the IRSL and Australia. No membership,

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Speaker 3: I agree, it's ridiculous, stupid rules just because but there

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Speaker 3: He's going to run as through at after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: how I don't know. How boring are the people that

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Speaker 3: with strange people? Talk about that later newstorgs d.

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Speaker 1: Hard questions strong opinion here the duplicy Ellen drive with one.

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Speaker 8: You're taking me with the ordinary?

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Speaker 6: Would your name to the end.

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Speaker 3: Of drunken Well.

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Speaker 3: People do like you to do the grocery tourism thing.

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Speaker 6: Hither.

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Speaker 3: I have seen groups of Chinese tourists being led you

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Speaker 2: Hither.

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Speaker 3: I've been to big supermarkets in Japan, France and the

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Speaker 3: I went to a supermarket in La It was so cool,

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Speaker 3: It's really a thing unbelievable. Okay, Anyway, we'll discuss this

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: US media is reporting that the military there is planning

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Speaker 3: House says that Iran needs to agree to a deal

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Speaker 14: The President has always been very clear though, with respect

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Speaker 14: always his first option, and Iran would be very wise

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Speaker 14: to make a deal with President Trump.

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Speaker 3: And a Channel nine sports reporter over in Australia has

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Speaker 15: We're going to start off with some actual brist rocos

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Speaker 15: gearing from the actually their trip to the US at

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Speaker 15: the UK rather because Walsh has stolen the shown he

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Speaker 15: of course did that in the last Dash series, not.

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Speaker 3: At all drunk. The host Karl Stefanovic did his best

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Speaker 16: A car over there and there's such a cold when

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Speaker 3: I would struggle to say, presidents, Yeah, that's what was

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Speaker 3: He also responded to her apology today by saying she

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Murray Old's Aussie corresponds with that's now, hey, muzz, very good.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, yes, And you know the Coalition, like

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Speaker 9: all political leaders have here, they're sniffing the wind on

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Speaker 9: this Pauline Hanson surging and the polls over here howling about.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's no such thing as a good Muslim

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Speaker 9: and you know, into this environment steps a labor plan

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Speaker 9: In fact, eight orphans were brought home in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 9: had four women coming home with thirteen kiddies. Last year

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Speaker 9: this current climate, it's a very hot button issue and

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Speaker 9: Muslim business. You know, no good Muslims at all in Australia. Well,

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Speaker 9: it just feeds into this whole nasty narrative. Lakemba the

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Speaker 9: It's just ridiculous, feeding into the dreadful environment we've got

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Speaker 9: here now that Hanson is saying this stuff and all

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Speaker 9: sides of politics are whacking it. The Labor government under

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Speaker 9: pin up boy for the right in Queensland, that's Matt Canavan,

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Speaker 9: the National Senator. And you know, Angus Tabor has been

439
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Speaker 9: a bit more nuanced. He's gone on a top rating

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Speaker 9: FM radio show. He says, listen to the voters who

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Speaker 9: are running away from the coalition. We'll be tough on immigration,

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Speaker 9: very tough in immigration, but we're also going to offer

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Speaker 9: policies that will give you a much better standard of living.

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Speaker 9: So he's having a bob each way. But it's a

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Speaker 9: look at a very febrile issue right now.

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Speaker 3: Do we know, muz?

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Speaker 15: Why?

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Speaker 3: Only like, what is it that this one isus bride

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Speaker 3: has done to Warren told?

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Speaker 9: No one's told us heither. You know whether or not

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Speaker 9: she's accused or has she been convicted of some sort

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Speaker 9: of dreadful crime that we don't know about. They have

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Speaker 9: singled her out. We don't know her identity. We don't

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Speaker 9: know if she's one of the mothers. We don't know

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Speaker 9: if all of these women are in fact mothers. We

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Speaker 9: don't know if the children were born any kids born

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Speaker 9: in Australia certainly born to Australian citizens. The mums are

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Speaker 9: all Australian citizens. We know that much, but the rest

459
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Speaker 9: of it is shrouded in secrecy and we're not sure why.

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Speaker 9: But I'll tell you what labor was all set to

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Speaker 9: bring him home until they sniffed the wind and all

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Speaker 9: of a sudden, the women who had left this dreadful

463
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Speaker 9: camp with the kids in a convoy, they were turned

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Speaker 9: around mid trip out to the west and that's where

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Speaker 9: they are now.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, okay, listen, matt Utaie is shooting. Have we got

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Speaker 3: more details here?

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Speaker 9: Certainly do. And it's apparently he was shot because the

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Speaker 9: government couldn't find his son, his son, Isaiah Utah. He's

471
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Speaker 9: apparently and I'm quoting here from police, he's a member

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Speaker 9: of the so called Coconut cartel. And this is a

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Speaker 9: group of apparently Polynesian men in Sydney's western suburbs who

474
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Speaker 9: were taking on who are now in a crime family.

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Speaker 9: They're basically taking on another crime family has been around

476
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Speaker 9: for a very long time, the Alamedines, now the Alamadeans,

477
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Speaker 9: have been waging war and other crime families for quite

478
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Speaker 9: some time. They've been murders, fire bombings and the like. Now,

479
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Speaker 9: basically what's happened. Matt Utah was leaving for work on

480
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Speaker 9: Tuesday morning as a government out the front bang Bang Bang.

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Speaker 9: Utah is lying on.

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Speaker 6: The ground on the front lawn.

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Speaker 9: Police find him very lucky to be alive of the

484
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Speaker 9: following morning, very early on, another home was shot up,

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Speaker 9: a woman and a child inside. Plus the same morning

486
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Speaker 9: a home linked to Matt Utah's son was firebombed. And

487
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Speaker 9: how about this, Each of these attacks was taped. The

488
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Speaker 9: video was shot by someone watching the gunment opening fire.

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Speaker 9: The video was then sent to the Sydney Underworld that's

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Speaker 9: being circulated apparently on the Underworld in Sydney. It's also

491
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Speaker 9: been sent to an organization called SCN world Star. It's

492
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Speaker 9: a site that boasts of having strong contacts with Sydney criminals.

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Speaker 9: So it's look, it's a it's a hell of a mess.

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Speaker 9: The police have set up a task force here. They've

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Speaker 9: already got an organized crime task force called Raptor. They've

496
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Speaker 9: set up a special one to look at this coconut

497
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Speaker 9: cartel and any involvement there of Isaiah Utah. Dad's still

498
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Speaker 9: in hospital.

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Speaker 3: The world is crazy, Murray, thank you for that, appreciated Murray.

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Speaker 3: Old's Australia corresponding, you can't even if you don't, if

501
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Speaker 3: you don't roll in that kind of a world, which

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Speaker 3: none of us do. Can't of imagine that people would

503
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Speaker 3: want to film themselves shooting other people. It's completely bonkers. Okay,

504
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Speaker 3: here's a poll for you. It's another Pole freshwater strategy

505
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Speaker 3: poll from the Post, mainly the same as all the

506
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Speaker 3: other poles. A couple of differences worth noting. Okay, this

507
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Speaker 3: one puts Labor very high thirty seven, playing Nationals thirty.

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Speaker 3: So Labour's on thirty seven. National is on thirty. New

509
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Speaker 3: Zealand First is on eleven, the Greens are on ten,

510
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Speaker 3: the ACT parties on sex, the Mario Party I was

511
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Speaker 3: on two. So Apart from the fact that Labor is

512
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Speaker 3: very high, the other thing that I think is interesting

513
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Speaker 3: in this is that New Zealand First Yes can take

514
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Speaker 3: use its strong climb up, so it's sitting on double

515
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Speaker 3: digits at eleven, but ACT is down sitting on six.

516
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Speaker 3: Now what that suggests is that New Zealand verst is

517
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Speaker 3: directly stealing votes from ACT and that's no surprise to anyone.

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Speaker 3: The problem for National is they haven't moved since mid

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Speaker 3: last year, so thirty seems to be where they're digging

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Speaker 3: in at the moment, while Labor is climbing. Preferred Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister polling Hipkins on forty six, Luxan on thirty four,

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Speaker 3: Barrie Soapers with US next quarter.

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Speaker 1: To politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

524
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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Heather, I love going to foreign supermarkets. Lamana Italian Supermarket

526
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne is like Disneyland. Disneyland to me it has

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Speaker 3: a terram Asuba. I withdraw and apologize I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Grocery tourism is a thing twelve away from five and

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Speaker 3: Barries Soaper, Senior Political Correspondence with US.

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Speaker 6: Hallo, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 17: Hither.

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Speaker 10: I've got to say I've been to many supermarkets overseas,

533
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Speaker 10: normally trailing after a prime minister looking for New Zealand products.

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Speaker 3: This is they love it. I got a text from

535
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Speaker 3: somebody who was like Jerry Brownlee when he gets as

536
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Speaker 3: god as itinerary would always make sure that he is

537
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Speaker 3: going to supermartans for that reason. Right, they go and

538
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Speaker 3: they make sure we got the mainland shadda there. But

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Speaker 3: that's a good reason to go. I mean, just having

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Speaker 3: a look at the terror as Sue is probably not.

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Speaker 3: But whatever each their own. Now the Peter Winston, Peter's

542
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Speaker 3: racism has come up again today, has it?

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Speaker 10: Well, has alleged racism. Let's say he seemed to suggest

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Speaker 10: yesterday that Minister Scott Simpson shouldn't be answering a question

545
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Speaker 10: from an MP because he came from Rara Tongua. Now

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Speaker 10: Peter's obviously was out of sem I think he cocked

547
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Speaker 10: up the question basically, and he was taking an exception

548
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Speaker 10: to the fact that the Green MP as they'll want

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Speaker 10: to to use the term art here are rather than

550
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Speaker 10: New Zealand and Winston. That's he's been on that common theme.

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Speaker 3: It is a common thing from him for ye.

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Speaker 10: But of course he was accused of racism by Chris Hopkins.

553
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Speaker 10: But the most outraged MP in the House today because

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Speaker 10: Hipkins wasn't there was Labors Willie Jackson, who frequently uses

555
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Speaker 10: the word racism to describe people here.

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Speaker 18: He is what we heard yesterday was one of the

557
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Speaker 18: worst things I think we've ever heard in the house.

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Speaker 18: And I'm sorry and I take hang on, no, mister speaker.

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Speaker 7: They can laugh on the other side just a moment, But.

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Speaker 18: Mister speaker, I take personal offense at what the minister

561
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Speaker 18: has said, and I asked that he'd be asked to

562
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Speaker 18: withdraw and apologize.

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Speaker 7: On what basis do you take that offense and why

564
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Speaker 7: didn't you do that? Yesterday.

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Speaker 18: I think yesterday so many of us were in shop

566
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Speaker 18: at at that at the at what mister Peter said.

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Speaker 17: To speaker, if Willie Jackson would like to start retrospectively

568
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Speaker 17: apologizing for racist things, he said, then he should fill

569
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Speaker 17: his boots.

570
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Speaker 19: What I simply made the point is that mister Jackson

571
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Speaker 19: in the honor Willie Jackson in his offering to the house,

572
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Speaker 19: and they said that he was I think he said

573
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Speaker 19: deeply personally offended, and I suggest if that's how he

574
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Speaker 19: felt at the time, he should have mentioned it. It's

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Speaker 19: not unreasonable for me to do.

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Speaker 15: Point of.

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Speaker 6: Speak.

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Speaker 18: I'm still personally offended. They you sit down, Seymour, Yeah,

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Speaker 18: let's stay now.

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Speaker 8: It's Willy.

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Speaker 10: He stopped short of pointing when he did point his

582
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Speaker 10: finger at David Seymour. That didn't use the word when

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Speaker 10: it related to him, But I'm sure he has done

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Speaker 10: in the past. And you know, remember he questioned the

585
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Speaker 10: the mildiness of Paul Bennett once.

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Speaker 6: That was just once.

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Speaker 10: There are so many instances of Willie Jackson being called

588
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Speaker 10: out for using the word race.

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Speaker 3: Tell me if I'm wrong. But I saw this pop

590
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Speaker 3: up yesterday and I thought this is so boring. I

591
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Speaker 3: am not interested in this. It's yet another minor little

592
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Speaker 3: scuffle that we're going to call racism when it really

593
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Speaker 3: isn't and I feel like the public actually deserves better.

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Speaker 6: Well, it was the hypocrisy today that I no, I mean,

595
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Speaker 6: not not from you.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair from you. I just think it's

598
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Speaker 3: from these guys trying to turn this into a thing.

599
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: It's not a thing anyway, but now I'm going to

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Speaker 3: turn it into a thing and maybe take it to

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Speaker 3: the huddle. Thank you, erre right. Green's on the roads

602
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Speaker 3: of national significance.

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Speaker 10: Yes, well, the government's roads of national significance, of course,

604
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Speaker 10: and the money being dedicated to them was in the

605
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Speaker 10: Greens firing line today, and of course leading the charge

606
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Speaker 10: was the former Minister of Transport, Julianne Genta. And you know,

607
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Speaker 10: I hadn't seen her around for a while asking questions,

608
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Speaker 10: but there she was. But her line of questioning till

609
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Speaker 10: Nikola Willis was interrupted by none other than the aforementioned

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Speaker 10: Winston Peters, who won fairly one praise from the Finance Minister.

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Speaker 2: Had she seen the full business case for a second

612
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Speaker 2: Mount Victoria tunnel before campaigning for it and committing to

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Speaker 2: it as a priority project.

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Speaker 20: I have found that that investment case stacks up.

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Speaker 8: Thread of question the right on at Winston Peters.

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Speaker 21: There's the Minister consider that wild bureaucrats can conjure up

617
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Speaker 21: positive benefit cost ratios for many ideas when faced with

618
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Speaker 21: limited finances, and a pragmatic person would choose to fix

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Speaker 21: pipes over building's new se Michael lanes ah.

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Speaker 20: Well, mister speaker of only the former Wellington City Council

621
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Speaker 20: had had the full sight of that, Minister.

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Speaker 21: Does the Minister consider contract courageous to carry on with

623
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Speaker 21: a four billion cost blowout in a simple fairy and

624
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Speaker 21: war replacement project? Or was it courageous to stop it,

625
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Speaker 21: fix it and save the taxpayer two point three billion dollars?

626
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Speaker 20: Indeed, Minister, and I would also reflect that sometimes those

627
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Speaker 20: in glasshouses should not be throwing stones or sitting next

628
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Speaker 20: to Tamitha Paul who built cycle ways instead of fixing

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Speaker 20: the pipes.

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Speaker 10: Of course, Tamotha Poul was a former Wellington City councilor,

631
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Speaker 10: so it's probably fair to point the finger at her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it. As Barry Sober,

633
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Speaker 3: Senior Political Correspondent seven away from five hither the current

634
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: polling reminds me of Hillary versus Trump and Karmela versus Trump.

635
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: Pole had Hillary and Karmela head and look what happened.

636
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: Don't believe the pole's all the main street? Do you

637
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Speaker 3: know what I think is going on here?

638
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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem believing that. I don't have

640
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: a problem believing that this is what the poles are saying,

641
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: because the Poles are consistent across most of the poles. Right,

642
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: it's roughly the same story. But I think it will

643
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Speaker 3: not bear out on election nine. These are two different things.

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Speaker 3: I think this is what's going on at the minute.

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Speaker 3: I do think that up or down, give a few points, whatever,

646
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Speaker 3: But I think when it comes to voting, no, thirty

647
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: seven percent of this country are not going to vote

648
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: for labor plus What was it that? What did I say?

649
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: Ten percent for the Greens?

650
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Speaker 2: Do you know why?

651
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Speaker 3: Because what's Labour coming at you with a capital gains tax?

652
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: What are the Greens coming at you with a wealth tax?

653
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Speaker 3: And then they're going to bring their mates in the

654
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Speaker 3: Mahdi party as well. And when we look at that

655
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Speaker 3: little chamozzle that just wants to tax you and we

656
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Speaker 3: know how it went with spending last time. We're going

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Speaker 3: to look at it we and say no, no, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much and maybe rearrange things. Wee bit. But I

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Speaker 3: do think that can I say just on this Winston thing,

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Speaker 3: because I am now, I've now, I've got now, I've

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Speaker 3: got all hot under the collar about it, and I'm

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Speaker 3: going to take it to the huddle. Why I don't

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Speaker 3: care about Winston and his alleged racism is that I

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Speaker 3: still am kind of confounded that here we are going,

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Speaker 3: oh no, Winston mentioned that the Green MP comes from

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Speaker 3: Rara Tongan. He was calling New Zealand ol Tier Roha

667
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Speaker 3: what a racist. I can't believe that that is the

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Speaker 3: thing that we're getting worked up about. And hardly anyone's

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Speaker 3: even talking about the cultural lea that was happening last

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Speaker 3: week where we found out that there is a particular

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Speaker 3: ethnicity in this country that is apparently in the public

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Speaker 3: service able to just take unlimited leave to go like that,

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Speaker 3: to me, you want to know what racist?

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Speaker 2: That is?

675
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Speaker 3: Literal racism right there? Like why is nobody standing up

676
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Speaker 3: in Parliament going well, that's racist, we need to stop. No, Instead,

677
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Speaker 3: they're getting all angry at uncle Winston for some words

678
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Speaker 3: that he said. Anyway, Sae, that's what happens. That's what

679
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Speaker 3: happens when we get start talking about what will he says, Well,

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Speaker 3: he makes us very cross, doesn't he anyway, So that's

681
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Speaker 3: going to the huddle now as a result. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop first, because that's much more important. Actually we're

683
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Speaker 3: going to talk to him about this U turn on

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Speaker 3: Auckland's two million new houses. Next News talks.

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Speaker 1: Their beep, depressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan Drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else. News Dogsvy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. The government's done a U turn and dropped its

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Speaker 3: plan to have up to two million new houses built

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Speaker 3: in Auckland. The number is now down to one point

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Speaker 3: six million. The Housing Ministry is Chris Bishop. High bish

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. Are you happy with this backdown?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: I think it's a much more politically sustainable plan for Auckland,

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Speaker 22: and I think it will land quite well. And it

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Speaker 22: makes sure that growth is in the right areas, right

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Speaker 22: around city railroad stations, around Rappord Transit and the CBD.

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Speaker 22: You know, that's what most people not everyone, but most

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Speaker 22: people you know, think is where we should be building

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Speaker 22: in Auckland, and it means more around those areas and

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Speaker 22: less in the suburbs. And that means that we can

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Speaker 22: take people with us on the journey of building more

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Speaker 22: housing in Auckland, which again I think most people think

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Speaker 22: we need to do. So it's going to be more

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Speaker 22: politically sustainable and to make sure that grows in the

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Speaker 22: right areas. And the fundamental point I want to make

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Speaker 22: clear to Auckland is that we've listened to them. You know,

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Speaker 22: very strong feedback coming through that the plan was a

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Speaker 22: bit unbalanced. We've made sure that we've acted blistened and

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Speaker 22: there's going to be changes.

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Speaker 1: As a result.

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Speaker 22: Why didn't you do this in the first place, Well,

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Speaker 22: Auckland Council asked us to essentially do the plan that

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Speaker 22: you know what we did, so plan change one twenty.

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Speaker 22: They said, look, we'll withdraw the plan change seventy eight,

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Speaker 22: we'll replace it with a new one. We'll meet the

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Speaker 22: same amount of housing capacity. So we said, okay, fair enough,

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Speaker 22: off you go. And the feedback coming through is that

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Speaker 22: that was the wrong outcome for Auckland. And so we've

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Speaker 22: made sure that and that's what government's for, right, that's

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Speaker 22: ultimately why we have democracy. And so we've listened and

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Speaker 22: we've acted.

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Speaker 3: So leafy suburbs, Heritage listed suburbs no longer affected.

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Speaker 22: That will be over to Auckland, but they now have

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Speaker 22: much more flexibility to make changes around those areas. You know,

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Speaker 22: the growth is going to be centered around train stations

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Speaker 22: and around the CBD and around town centers, and it'll

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Speaker 22: be over to Auckland and the council and the communities.

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Speaker 22: If they wish to take out growth out of the suburbs,

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Speaker 22: then they can do that. The strong feedback coming through

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Speaker 22: is that that's what they want to do. So they

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Speaker 22: have the ability to do that they basically didn't before.

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Speaker 22: We're making sure that they can they do.

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Speaker 3: But if I mean, if let's say that Auckland Council says, yep,

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Speaker 3: we're we're going to keep on going with density in

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Speaker 3: Mount Eden, isn't that going to blow back on you?

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Speaker 3: So surely you've sought an assurance from them that that,

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Speaker 3: in fact, the leafy suburbs are out.

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Speaker 22: We've asked the council to give us a provisional summary

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Speaker 22: of what they would do once if we legislate, so

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Speaker 22: they're going to do that in the next little while,

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Speaker 22: and you know, we want to have a look at

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Speaker 22: that as a government and just make sure that you

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Speaker 22: know it's it's going to be something that will land. Okay,

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Speaker 22: we've asked for a summary and though we you know,

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Speaker 22: we've asked for them to give that to us and

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Speaker 22: okaess legislat But.

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Speaker 3: So fair to say this was by you know, if

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Speaker 3: you're a concerned Auckland in a nice suburb and a

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Speaker 3: heritage listed suburb, this is not completely over yet. There

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Speaker 3: is more to go. Oh, there's a process to go through.

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Speaker 22: That's definitely true. So that we're asking the Council to

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Speaker 22: give us a provisional summary and then we're going to

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Speaker 22: legislate and then the plan change process itself's got away

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Speaker 22: way to run. It's not finished all twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 22: So but however, there will also be an opportunity for

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Speaker 22: the Council very quickly to withdraw various different parts from

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Speaker 22: the plan change and exempt those areas and just go

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Speaker 22: back to the Auckland Unitary Plan. So that will be

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Speaker 22: over through the Council to do very quickly, and I

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Speaker 22: think that will provide a lot of finality in certainty

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Speaker 22: for people.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks very much, Chris Bishop, Housing Minister ten

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Speaker 3: past five.

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Speaker 1: Here they do for Cellen. There are warnings the.

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Speaker 3: US may strike Iran as soon as this weekend, with

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Speaker 3: one anonymous source telling international media there is now a

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Speaker 3: ninety percent chance of war in the coming weeks. Ol

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Speaker 3: Gillespie is a law professor at the University of wy

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Speaker 3: Kappawa and an international law expert and with US Hilhi

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Speaker 3: heither does ninety percent sound real to you?

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Speaker 23: I think it's a bit high. It will depend on negotiations,

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Speaker 23: but it's certainly quite possible.

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Speaker 3: What would they have to give Trump in negotiations to

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Speaker 3: get out of this.

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Speaker 23: There's three things that they're looking at. The first one

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Speaker 23: is removing their nuclear ability, which I think you can

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Speaker 23: easily negotiate that. The second thing is removing their ballistic

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Speaker 23: missile ability, which I think it's possible but difficult. The

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Speaker 23: third one is maybe letting them have the right to protest,

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Speaker 23: which they will never.

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Speaker 3: Allow, in which case here there's a strike.

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Speaker 23: Right, It is quite possible that the problem is is

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Speaker 23: that if you go into the situation like this, everyone's

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Speaker 23: thinking Venezuela, like you cut the head off the snake,

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Speaker 23: but here it's a very big snake, and it's if

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Speaker 23: you remove the Aatola, you were likely to have a

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Speaker 23: problem with the Revolutionary Guard taking power. That could turn

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Speaker 23: into a civil war and it could make the Arab

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Speaker 23: Spring look like a beginning party.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if he does decide to do it, there

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Speaker 3: are a few problems because he's got a few things

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Speaker 3: on the calendar. Right We've got the Winter Olympics, and

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Speaker 3: generally you don't strike during winter. Olympics ends on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: but then you've got Ramadan starting on Wednesday. So that's

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Speaker 3: a very small window, isn't it.

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Speaker 23: So it's quite possible it could be sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 23: And he's also someone who's got to show strengths right

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Speaker 23: now because he's got a lot of other countries he's

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Speaker 23: trying to make do certain things. You can think Venezuela,

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Speaker 23: you can think Cuba. He's a man not to be

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Speaker 23: messed with, so he will want to have a projection

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Speaker 23: of power.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is a global impact if he

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Speaker 3: does go in there?

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Speaker 23: I think there's nothing an international law which says you

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Speaker 23: can force people to negotiate under threat or bond them

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Speaker 23: if they don't agree with you. I think it's another

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Speaker 23: aspect of the lawless world that we're engaging. And the

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Speaker 23: problem isn't just what when America does in China and

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Speaker 23: Russia follow suit.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you for that. I'll appreciate. Al Gillespie

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Speaker 3: Wykathe University law professor so has been What is certainly

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Speaker 3: adding credibility to this ninety percent thing is just the

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Speaker 3: number of aircraft that are going into the Middle East

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Speaker 3: at the moment it's been tracked. On Monday, there are

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Speaker 3: at least six flights of the Strato tankers heading towards

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Speaker 3: the Middle East, then another eight recorded on Tuesday. On

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Speaker 3: Monday twenty USF thirty five combat aircraft took off from Suffolk.

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday twenty five, F sixteen jets flew to the US.

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Speaker 3: From the US to the Middle East. They landed in

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Speaker 3: southern Israel, also Jordan and Crete thirteen past five. Would

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Speaker 3: Heather do for see us more on house And it's

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Speaker 3: not just happening in Auckland's also happening in Wellington. Wellington

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Speaker 3: City Council has made a submission to submission on the

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Speaker 3: new Rama and it is asking for basically the power

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Speaker 3: to get rid of a heritage status from a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of structures that already have it. And you'll be

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Speaker 3: thinking at that, like, if you're thinking what are we

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Speaker 3: talking about, think about the Gordon Wilson Flats, the really

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Speaker 3: ugly brutalist flats that were sitting there, you know as

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Speaker 3: you looked up the hill towards Victoria University. They have

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Speaker 3: been delisted. They're being bold also though, once private home

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Speaker 3: owners to be able to say no. So if the

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Speaker 3: heritage people come along ago your have beautiful We're gonna

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Speaker 3: put heritage listing on it, you can say nah, no,

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Speaker 3: thanks very much. Now, on balance, I think because I

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Speaker 3: love the old private property rights, I tend to agree

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Speaker 3: with this. However, if you think about a leafy suburb,

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Speaker 3: if you say yes to the heritage listing, but then

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Speaker 3: old mate next door says no bowls and puts that

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Speaker 3: up of an apartment, what's the point in the heritage

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Speaker 3: listing if you're the only one with it. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have a chat to Ben McNulty, Deputy Mayor

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Speaker 3: of Wellington. He'll be with us after half past five.

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Speaker 3: But I think the thing we can take from this

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Speaker 3: and Auckland is the building's on more houses coming five

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Speaker 3: point fourteen. Hey, are you a fisherman or a diver

849
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: or a kayaker? However you're heading out on the water

850
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Speaker 3: of the summer, keep an eye out for Boy Born,

851
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: your friendly reminder to stay safe before you launch. You're

852
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: gonna spot boy Boy bobbing around out there. Popping up

853
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Speaker 3: to remind you of the three big rules of the water. Okay,

854
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: Rule number one life jackets look better on wearing one

855
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: is the simplest and most effective way to protect yourself.

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00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: Rule number two. The marine where the forecast is not

857
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: going to check itself, so before you head out, take

858
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Speaker 3: a moment to look up the latest conditions so you're

859
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: not caught by surprise. And rule number three always take

860
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: two waterproof ways to call for help. A locator beacon

861
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: and a phone sealed in a plastic bag that can

862
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: make all the difference in an emergency. Preparation is the

863
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Speaker 3: key to staying safe. So before you push off, paddle out,

864
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Speaker 3: or drop a line, remember be sure before you leave

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Speaker 3: the shore.

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Speaker 1: Heather do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: I have got an Erica Stanford update for you you

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Speaker 3: may enjoy and just a ticket seventeen past five. But

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Speaker 3: before we get to that, how is this for a

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Speaker 3: new site seeing trend? When you go on your overseas

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Speaker 3: holiday touring supermarkets? Apparently grocery tourism is a thing, and

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Speaker 3: a Hilton survey has found that seventy seven percent of

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Speaker 3: travelers actively hunt out supermarkets. Travel editor Sarah Pollock joins us.

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Speaker 3: Now on this high, Sarah, Hi, is this real? It's

875
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Speaker 3: absolutely real.

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Speaker 24: It sounds kind of crazy, but it was really big.

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Speaker 24: In twenty twenty five, we were saying it pop off

878
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Speaker 24: across like TikTok Instagram, but it's definitely a thing. Why

879
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Speaker 24: Three reasons?

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Speaker 3: I've got few.

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Speaker 24: Firstly, I think there's been a real desire in recent

882
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Speaker 24: years for authenticity when we travel. We want to go

883
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Speaker 24: where the locals go, and I mean, what is more

884
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Speaker 24: authentic than your weekly shop?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 24: I think the second point that we could look at

887
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Speaker 24: is that it's it's a cheap way of traveling. You know, personally,

888
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Speaker 24: sometimes when I'm going tripping around and I'm wanting a

889
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Speaker 24: cheap bite to eat, I'm going to go to a supermarket.

890
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Speaker 24: And third, when you get there, it's the novelty, right,

891
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Speaker 24: like you're going to in a seven to eleven in Japan,

892
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Speaker 24: and you've got different flavors, you've got different languages, different packaging.

893
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Speaker 24: It's it's, you know, totally the novelty of the experience.

894
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Speaker 3: And then people film it and put it on the

895
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Speaker 3: TikTok they do, and what are they saying when they

896
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Speaker 3: film it and put it on the TikTok, Like wow,

897
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Speaker 3: look at this, it's a black chicken. I've never seen

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Speaker 3: one before.

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Speaker 25: Genuinely.

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Speaker 24: Sometimes yeah, I think I think it's food things. You know,

901
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Speaker 24: you hear a lot of people going they've got products

902
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Speaker 24: that they've they've loved in another country, and there's a

903
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Speaker 24: bit of nostalgia there, like whether there's like old American

904
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Speaker 24: candy or British products that they want to bring home.

905
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Speaker 24: But then sometimes it's just the bizarre things that you'll

906
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Speaker 24: find in other countries, like different flavors. I know, I'm

907
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Speaker 24: Japan has like Marcher, tim tams, things like that that

908
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 24: it's like this is really fascinating. So people do tend

909
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Speaker 24: to I mean not me personally, I just like kind

910
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Speaker 24: of explore around, but they'll film themselves walking around and.

911
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Speaker 3: The products you can get this there's way too much

912
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Speaker 3: content on the Internet. Okay, so somebody texts before just

913
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Speaker 3: before and said they sometimes see tour guides taking groups

914
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Speaker 3: of Chinese tourists through the Pack and Save in more House. No,

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Speaker 3: what do you reckon they? What are they thinking when

916
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Speaker 3: they're walking around our supermarkets.

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Speaker 24: I'm kind of delighted by that though, you know, like

918
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Speaker 24: what you find mundane someone else that this is totally

919
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Speaker 24: novel to them, Like, you know, you think about Whittakers

920
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 24: and people will bring back like dozens of Whittaker blocks.

921
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Speaker 24: I was in the supermarket yesterday actually, and I saw

922
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Speaker 24: this guy's trolley filled with Whittakers.

923
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Speaker 3: But that's not because Whittakers is weird. That's because it's delicious.

924
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Speaker 3: It is delicious, but it's also you can't get it

925
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Speaker 3: anywhere else, right, Okay, all right, so where are you

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Speaker 3: going to? Which supermarket are you going to next?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 24: This is kind of what I love about the trend

929
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Speaker 24: is that you know, it's been this is as a phenomenon,

930
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Speaker 24: has been covered by New York Times, it's been covered

931
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Speaker 24: by Vogue, and obviously they'll list famous supermarkets in Paris

932
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Speaker 24: or Milan.

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Speaker 3: But the beauty is and obviously, and pack.

934
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Speaker 24: And Save obviously, But I think the beauty of it

935
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Speaker 24: is like it could be any supermarket, you know, it

936
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Speaker 24: could be one that I've seen pop up a lot.

937
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Speaker 24: Is like the seven eleven's in Japan are apparently incredible.

938
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Speaker 3: Popping off at the moment. Apparently that's their pack and save.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I'm going to stop taking the McKey

941
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Speaker 3: out of people for doing this because apparently it's the thing.

942
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Speaker 3: I'm off trend. Sarah, thank you very much for putting

943
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Speaker 3: me back on trend. That's Sarah Pollock, the Herald's travel editor.

944
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Speaker 3: That's weird. Twenty past five.

945
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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, Heather dup Clan drive

946
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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand coverage like no one else news talks,

947
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Speaker 1: they'd be.

948
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Speaker 3: I've got to get you across a little if I know.

949
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Speaker 3: It's a blast from the past, but in New Zealand

950
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Speaker 3: and Aukland Airport of fighting again. So I'll get you

951
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Speaker 3: across that shortly and we'll talk to Eakland Airport after six.

952
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Right now, it's five to twenty three. Now is it

953
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Speaker 3: really any surprise at all that the government has ditched

954
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: plans to try to bring in four year election terms

955
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: in the end, Their proposal I think was just too

956
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: complicated to ever get across the line, and that was obvious.

957
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, and I think we can blame

958
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Speaker 3: the ACT Party for this, because it was ACT that

959
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: said that it would support a four year term, but

960
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Speaker 3: only if Parliament agreed to Amen's standing Order, so that

961
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Speaker 3: the Opposition would have a majority on the majority, if

962
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: not all of the Select committees. And if it didn't

963
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: want to do that in that term, then the term

964
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Speaker 3: would be the bog standard three year term, which meant

965
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: that we would be going to any given election not

966
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Speaker 3: knowing if we were voting for a four year term

967
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: or a three year term, because that would only be

968
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Speaker 3: decided by the government after the election. Can you see

969
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: why that didn't work? Miles? Too complicated? Who wants to

970
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: go to an election not knowing what you're voting for.

971
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Speaker 3: I'm not blaming the ACT Party for stuffing this up, though,

972
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Speaker 3: by the way, I am actually quite grateful to them,

973
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Speaker 3: because I am yet to be convinced that the four

974
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Speaker 3: year term is a good idea. In this country. We

975
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Speaker 3: have some of the fastest lawmaking in the world. You

976
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: don't need me to tell you that. We've been talking

977
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: about since what the nineteen eighties. You cannot tell me.

978
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: Governments do not have enough time in this country to

979
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: get done the thing that they want to get done

980
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: if laws get passed as fast as they do. And

981
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Speaker 3: the problem is there are no real checks on those plans.

982
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: We don't have an upper House, we don't have a Senate,

983
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: we don't have a House of Lords. The only real

984
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: check is the coalition partners in this case Act and

985
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Speaker 3: National and New Zealand first checking each other. So imagine

986
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Speaker 3: this right, Imagine if Chris Bishop had had his housing

987
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: plan happening in a year that wasn't an election year,

988
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Speaker 3: would he have back down? There's nothing to stop them.

989
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: In the UK they have council elections that you know

990
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Speaker 3: will that is currently a problem for Kostama. That kind

991
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Speaker 3: of thing stops people. But here we have nothing other

992
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: than election years. Election years are a check on bad ideas.

993
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: That is why Chris Bishop has had to do the

994
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: back down, because this is not just about having three

995
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Speaker 3: or four years of bad governments like justinta ar Durn's.

996
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Speaker 3: It's also about having three or four years of your

997
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: chosen government having some of its own bad ideas. So

998
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: actor has unwittingly actually done us a favor.

999
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: I think Heather duplusy Ellen.

1000
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Speaker 3: Apparently the thing that people find weird about our supermarkets

1001
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Speaker 3: when they do tours of our supermarkets is that we

1002
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Speaker 3: leave our eggs on the shelf and we don't refrigerate them,

1003
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Speaker 3: and that really buzzes them out. So imagine that, imagine

1004
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Speaker 3: coming Imagine imagine one of them coming to New Zealand going, Hey,

1005
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: we're going on a tour of the pack and Save.

1006
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about this year. I've heard about the

1007
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Speaker 3: pack and Save supermarket. We're going to go on to

1008
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Speaker 3: do you know what, they don't put their eggs in

1009
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: the fridge? Is that really the young that you want

1010
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 3: to go back and tell people after your trip. Anyway,

1011
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: we'll take this to the huddle when they're with us.

1012
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: Erica Stanford's had quite an epic clap back. So n ZEI,

1013
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: which is the primary school teacher's union, has launched an

1014
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: anti government campaign that's supposed to be a little bit

1015
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: funny because they've called it make it Stop, as in

1016
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Speaker 3: make the government stop. But what they're using as an

1017
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Speaker 3: example is kids playing the recorder and asking them to

1018
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: make it stop. So what do you think keep pretending

1019
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: all of this is fine or which is actually quite funny.

1020
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: But anyway, eric A Stanford has then come out and said, hey,

1021
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: n Zdi, don't be mean to the music education teachers

1022
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: because they're actually doing a very good job teaching their

1023
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: kids how to play recorder, which is foundational for when

1024
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Speaker 3: you want to go on and play I don't know,

1025
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Speaker 3: the bassoon or the obo or something like that. And

1026
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Speaker 3: so she has then busted out her own recorder skills.

1027
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Speaker 20: So to all those music teachers out there, please don't stop,

1028
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Speaker 20: please keep going.

1029
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Speaker 3: That was her on the recorder. Do you want to

1030
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Speaker 3: hear that again? That was quite impressive, wasn't it.

1031
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 26: So to all those music teachers out there, please don't stop, Please.

1032
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Speaker 3: Keep don't pretend that you're not impressed by that. But also.

1033
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Speaker 17: I just want to know where n City I got

1034
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Speaker 17: the audio of my old recorder that they used to

1035
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Speaker 17: narrate it. That's about the skill level I reached with it.

1036
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Speaker 3: My brother tried to give us a recorder for the kids,

1037
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Speaker 3: and I left at at his house when I left

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Speaker 3: on purpose. Wellington City Council next year.

1039
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Speaker 1: The Day's newsmakers talked to Heather first Heather Duplicy Ellen

1040
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

1041
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: mobile new stalks that'd be.

1042
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Speaker 3: So I'll give a.

1043
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Speaker 19: Lane.

1044
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Speaker 3: So the heart standing by going to be with us.

1045
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Speaker 3: Shortly in New Zealand has been before a Select committee

1046
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Speaker 3: and been asked about why their domestic prices is so high,

1047
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Speaker 3: and they flamed Auckland Airport. Auckland Airport just changes that

1048
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: too much basically, which is a bit I feel little

1049
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: bit cynical about the timing because they've said this on

1050
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Speaker 3: the day that Auckland Airport was due to report it's

1051
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Speaker 3: half year results to the NZX, which actually were not

1052
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Speaker 3: half bad. So it's quite clever from me in New

1053
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Speaker 3: Zealand to hijacket, but also quite rude anyway, Auckland Airport's

1054
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Speaker 3: with us after six standby for that. It's twenty four

1055
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Speaker 3: away from six. Now to Wellington City Council. Wellington City

1056
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Speaker 3: Council wants more power to strip heritage listings. It's made

1057
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Speaker 3: a submission on the New Rama asking for the power

1058
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Speaker 3: to dlist structures already given heritage status, and it also

1059
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Speaker 3: wants private homeowners to have the power to say no

1060
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Speaker 3: to heritage listing. Ben McNulty is the Deputy Mayor of

1061
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Speaker 3: Wellington High ben Cure Heaver. Any structures of mine that

1062
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Speaker 3: you want to strip.

1063
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Speaker 13: Oh, they've got the rusting oil tank and Merrima that

1064
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 13: at last countsil unanimously voted to de list. We've got

1065
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Speaker 13: Gordon Wilson which had to be pulled out through legislation.

1066
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Speaker 13: We've got things like private homes that have the same

1067
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Speaker 13: heritage significance as Parliament House fit. Statistically, zero percent of

1068
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Speaker 13: New Zealand will ever visit costs double the insurance to maintain.

1069
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Speaker 13: I've got to get a resource consent if you in

1070
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Speaker 13: a reroof or reglaze. So properties like that where it's

1071
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Speaker 13: just completely inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So where are these houses that are so protected?

1073
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Speaker 13: So the one particularly I'm thinking of as in Nio,

1074
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Speaker 13: but there's a few dotted around Wellington but have that

1075
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Speaker 13: level of protection in the Hut Valley. There's about one

1076
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Speaker 13: hundred and seventy in the Botoni area. And again it's

1077
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Speaker 13: the regulatory burden that actually comes with having that listing

1078
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Speaker 13: on there. Your insurance premium got to rebuild to a

1079
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Speaker 13: certain standard. So there's got to be an element of

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Speaker 13: consent in here. Because the upkeep and maintenance costs. When

1081
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Speaker 13: your rates are going up, your powers going up, and

1082
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Speaker 13: your wages aren't moving is creating a real burden on

1083
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Speaker 13: those homeowners.

1084
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Speaker 3: But are these particularly special houses? Is there something special

1085
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Speaker 3: about them?

1086
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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 13: I mean the one I'm referencing in Nio is just

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Speaker 13: seen as historic because it has some nineteen sixties features

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Speaker 13: and it was designed by a relatively prominent architect. Does

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Speaker 13: that give it the same level as national significance as

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Speaker 13: Parliament House? I don't really see how, but that's what

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Speaker 13: heritage lists, Sorry, Heritage New Zealand have determined.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, okay, Now I love the idea that as

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00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: a homeowner you can say no, I do not want

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Speaker 3: to I don't want this place to be heritage listed.

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Speaker 6: Go away.

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Speaker 3: But doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose if you've

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Speaker 3: got an entire suburb that is supposed to be heritage

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Speaker 3: list so that's its look, right, and then you've got

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Speaker 3: some pockets saying yes, some pockets saying no, You've got

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Speaker 3: random buildings popping up in the middle.

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Speaker 13: If we had a working system, I'd buy into that argument.

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Speaker 13: But our offices gave an incredible summation this morning. But

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Speaker 13: the current heritage system is a pressure valve. Once something

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00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 13: goes in, it does not come out. There was one

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Speaker 13: property we managed to delist when we passed our district

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Speaker 13: plan in twenty twenty four. That property we delisted it

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00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 13: because it no longer exists. It's burned down. That's the

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00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 13: level of dysfunction that we have in heritage rules right now.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, something advocating for a pretty bold position on it.

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00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 13: But it's because we need to move the over to

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Speaker 13: the window and realize that holding onto absolutely everything in

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00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 13: the past is not doing this country any favors.

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Speaker 3: You know, you realize it will surprise people that it's

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00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: coming from Wellington.

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Speaker 13: This argument, Well, I think actually we're quite progressive when

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Speaker 13: it comes to building on Wellington. You know, you'll be

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00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 13: talking about Chris Bishop's back down in Auckland today, I'm sure.

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Speaker 13: But we in Wellington embraced the opportunities that come of

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Speaker 13: up zoning. If you build more housing where you have infrastructure,

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00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 13: it has less marginal cost, you have more great payers

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 13: and that stuff's all good for city vitality and for

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00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 13: the council's balance sheet. So yeah, look, when it comes

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Speaker 13: to building and this government Wellington, we actually see quite

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Speaker 13: a lot of things eye to eye surprise.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Ben, what I mean is you sound more

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00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: act than an ACT Party MP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, the Act Party they talk a big game when

1130
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 13: it comes to sort of libertarianism and property rights, but

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00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 13: it doesn't seem to follow through around the parliamentary circle.

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Speaker 13: But I've come to this position out of being a

1133
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 13: Wellington City councilor and when we approved three hundred and

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Speaker 13: twenty million dollars to approve the town Hall because we

1135
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 13: literally had no other choice, something in me broke here.

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Speaker 13: And since then I've really been on a crusade to

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Speaker 13: modernize our dysfunctional, ridiculous heritage laws.

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Speaker 3: Ben, thank you very much, very much, appreciate your time

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Speaker 3: has been McNaughty, Wellington City Deputy Mayor. It's twenty one

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, a name

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00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 3: On the Huddle of us this evening. David Farrerh of

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00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: Kiwi Blog and Curia Polling and Phil GoF, former Labor

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00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: Party minister and Aul Clamare Hello you two. Hello you okay, David,

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00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: you're the local Wellingtonian. Do you like this from Wellington

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00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: City Council.

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Speaker 5: Oh. Absolutely, I mean Ben's got absolutely right on the

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Speaker 5: heritage laws. I mean I think there was a rotting

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00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 5: oil tankerhead heritage protection and it's been so crazy what

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00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 5: it's done to the sea there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was talking about. I mean, that's

1153
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: the structure he wants to delist immediately.

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Speaker 2: Phil.

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing about it is this should be

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Speaker 3: rolled outcross the whole country, shouldn't it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, we need more houses. This is a back

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Speaker 12: down obviously by the government because those people in the

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Speaker 12: leafy suburbs that suddenly sound that they might have to

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Speaker 12: face intensification, said are you going to do this to us?

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Speaker 12: This is our home. We're going to think about our

1162
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Speaker 12: vote for you. And that was very clear to the

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Speaker 12: Prime Minister in the meeting in his electorate last December.

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Speaker 12: I'd still keep heritage protection for those areas that have

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Speaker 12: special character, and I think Auckland Council does that. There

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Speaker 12: are parts of the city that reflect the development, particularly

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Speaker 12: the old villas around the late nineteenth century early twentieth century,

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Speaker 12: and I think it's worth preserving your history where you can.

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Speaker 12: But I am in favor of intensification in the CBD

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Speaker 12: absolutely where you've got transport hubs and along major transport routes.

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Speaker 12: That's what light rail was about. Of course, twenty five

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Speaker 12: percent of Auckland's future housing development would have been on

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Speaker 12: the Auckland dismiss if light rail had gone ahead. But

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Speaker 12: now that you don't have that and you've got bus congestion,

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Speaker 12: you're probably not going to get that same level of

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Speaker 12: development that you really need.

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Speaker 3: Explain something to me, David. We've ended up in a

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Speaker 3: situation in Auckland. If the council carries on the way

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Speaker 3: that we think that they are, it will be It

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Speaker 3: seems to me the perfect way to do it. You

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Speaker 3: just have the intensification along the the transport corridors. Why

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Speaker 3: didn't they do this first? Because I do not buy

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Speaker 3: from him that argument that it was an allcland council request.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm not sure that run the transport corridors will

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Speaker 5: be enough to be blunt. The problem we've had is

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Speaker 5: there's been some good stuff in housing, but almost a

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Speaker 5: bit sinkling. We'll do a both of brown fields here,

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Speaker 5: we do a bove green fields here. So I like

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Speaker 5: the government's ambition and I think it is a bit said.

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Speaker 5: They've had to back down, but you know that's the

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Speaker 5: real lack of it. The joke is that you're the

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Speaker 5: MP for IPS and then the leader for APT had

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Speaker 5: a ferocious battle over this and the MP for IPS

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Speaker 5: and one it was just too unpopular with those MP's

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Speaker 5: in the eastern suburbs. But you know it may not

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Speaker 5: be enough. That's the danger is keeping it just to

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Speaker 5: transport hubs won't.

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Speaker 3: But David, we're having this argument at a time when

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Speaker 3: we have basically no migration to speak of. People that

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Speaker 3: rents are dropping because there is an there's an abundance

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Speaker 3: of housing. So do we really need like that extra

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand the difference between one point six and

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Speaker 3: two is that really that crucial?

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Speaker 5: Well, I know we have to care for about long term.

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Speaker 5: We're going to have migration next thirty years or so, etc.

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Speaker 5: So I think we definitely do need to be prepared

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Speaker 5: for that because the problem is if you haven't got

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Speaker 5: it in the pipeline, once you've got the migration coming in,

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Speaker 5: you get real pressure. And there is a part of

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Speaker 5: Winston's backlashes when people think infrastructures are problem due to immigration.

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Speaker 5: So you do want to be.

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Speaker 12: Ahead of the curve?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 5: Fil Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Look, I was visiting my old electric in Mount Roscoll

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Speaker 12: over the weekend and there are just literally scores of

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Speaker 12: empty sections that have been empty for two to three

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Speaker 12: years because they've stopped building social housing. And on one

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Speaker 12: site I went to the we used to have eighty

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Speaker 12: senior citizen units on the site. They were a medium density,

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Speaker 12: great place to visit, they had their own social room,

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Speaker 12: they had a men's workshop. They've knocked them down and

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Speaker 12: now they're going to turn it into to a truck

1224
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Speaker 12: sales park. And I thought, Wow, what about all these people,

1225
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 12: you know, baby boomers like me, but who didn't have

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Speaker 12: the income that I had, that rented all their life.

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Speaker 12: Now they're in retirement, they're still paying market rents, but

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Speaker 12: they're not getting even an average wage. What's going to

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 12: happen to those people if we don't start building that

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Speaker 12: sort of social housing for them.

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Speaker 1: But the sites are there.

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Speaker 12: Why knock over a beautiful old villa when you've got

1233
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 12: empty sections that you haven't developed for two or three

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 12: years and you'll probably sell at the bottom of the market.

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Speaker 12: That seems crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: That's the frustration of how slow government moves. O, okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a break. Come back shortly sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only

1239
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: truly global brand.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen away from six Back with the Huddle, Phil Golf

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: and David Farrer. Phil on a scale of one to ten,

1242
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: how we exercised. Are you about the racist thing that

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: Winston apparently said?

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Speaker 25: Oh?

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00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 12: Look, I worked with Winston for thirty years. He knows

1246
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 12: what he said was wrong, that it is a lie.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 12: He was racking up the Green member. He does it

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 12: all the time. The other day when I challenged him

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Speaker 12: because he wasn't showing the guts, I thought he should

1250
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 12: have to criticize Trump. When Trump said that our soldiers

1251
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Speaker 12: didn't have the courage to be on the front line,

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Speaker 12: he said, oh, gough, he's a communist and he's a

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Speaker 12: member of the p YM.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, in the.

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Speaker 12: Nineteen fifties calling somebody a communist hurt and the PYM.

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Speaker 12: Nobody knows what the PYM is. Both of those things

1257
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 12: are lies. He knows they lies, but he still says

1258
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 12: it because he can't help himself. So do I care

1259
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 12: about what he says. Nah, not much other than that

1260
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 12: he will wind up the prejudice in people that do

1261
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Speaker 12: believe what he says. And on my social media site,

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Speaker 12: I suddenly got all these accusations that I was a communist.

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Speaker 12: There you go, but no guy to fall.

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Speaker 3: The reason I asked this question, David, is because I'm

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Speaker 3: surprised at how exercised there are some people in the

1266
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Speaker 3: media still get about stuff that Winston says when there

1267
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Speaker 3: is legit racist stuff out there to be reporting on it.

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Speaker 3: This is not one of them, Like, this is not

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Speaker 3: a big.

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Speaker 5: I kin decide what less newsworthy A that Winston said

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Speaker 5: something greatest, not the first five or b MPs. We're

1272
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 5: rude to each other on Prime. I mean, it's a story,

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00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 5: but it's not headline news. Just Winson's trolling. He actually

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 5: does this to get reaction.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. I've since checked it with a pair

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Speaker 3: of you from both sides, and I'm feeling like I'm

1277
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: in the right place now. I think Phil that the

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00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: reason that we haven't got the four year to the

1279
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: four year electoral term referendum is because act completely overcomplicated

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 12: What do you think, Oh, look, I'd go for the

1282
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Speaker 12: four year term. You know, I've witnessed enough time in

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Speaker 12: Parliament to know that governments have the fault always is

1284
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 12: thinking for the short term. They're always thinking about the

1285
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 12: next election, which is only a couple of years away.

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 12: I think four years would give us more sensible governments,

1287
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 12: but you'd have to have some balance in that because

1288
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 12: the three year term provides a bit of accountability. So

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 12: I'd do something like, you know, put more opposition MP's

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 12: as chairs of Select committee as a way of holding

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01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 12: the government accountable, but still go for the long term

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Speaker 12: planning this country desperately needs, which would be helped by

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Speaker 12: a four year term. Look, I don't you know. I

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01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 12: wouldn't give the government the choice of saying, oh we

1295
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 12: can maybe we'll go for four or we go for three.

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Speaker 12: It shouldn't be up to the government to decide that

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01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 12: it should be a set term unless there are very

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Speaker 12: special circumstances. So I wouldn't make it variable as it

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Speaker 12: appeared to be under the Act proposal. But I would

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Speaker 12: go for the four year term.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll, I know you, David, You'll be gutted

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Speaker 3: that this is not happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of a four year term.

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Speaker 5: Having worked in Parliament and you know that the campaign

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Speaker 5: and the next election starts almost straight away. You don't

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Speaker 5: get much time for just let's get home with good government.

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Speaker 5: But problem is what Act wanted was great, but they

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Speaker 5: made it so complicated. Phil said, oh, maybe it'd be

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Speaker 5: a three year term, sometimes sometimes a four years. No

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Speaker 5: one was going to bat that. They had to come

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Speaker 5: up with a simple proposal that the other parties could

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Speaker 5: agree to, and you know I would have campaigned really

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Speaker 5: hard to referend them for it. Again, to my interest

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Speaker 5: in the pulse, I should support one year and that

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Speaker 5: would be great commercial points.

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Speaker 3: Shall you ever do any of this grocery tourism thing.

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Speaker 12: I was in Aussie last week and I wandered in

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Speaker 12: because we were we were staying with people, so I

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Speaker 12: need to get some groceries. And it's it's kind of

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Speaker 12: interesting just to see what prices are like in Australia

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Speaker 12: compared to New Zealand and whether there are different things

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Speaker 12: if I if I go to a place like France,

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Speaker 12: I love to wander into a little delly and you know,

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Speaker 12: buy some local produce, you know, bread or cheese, which

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Speaker 12: is quite different in France than anywhere else. But it's

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Speaker 12: not the purpose of traveling. It's just something that you

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Speaker 12: might do. And more people are doing it because you know,

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Speaker 12: when we stay we don't want to eat out at

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Speaker 12: restaurants every night. We don't want to stay in hotels.

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Speaker 12: We want to B and B or we want a

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Speaker 12: little hostel that we can stay in. Reason were cheap,

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Speaker 12: and from time to time we like to cook our

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Speaker 12: own meals. So yeah, I do a bit of it.

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Speaker 12: But it's not the purpose of the travel, is it.

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Speaker 3: Apparently there are people who make this the purpose of

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Speaker 3: the travel. David, have you ever done that?

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Speaker 5: Not the purpose? But I did just have two weeks

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Speaker 5: in Balley with the boys and the family and Oreo's there.

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Speaker 5: A packet of them were three thousand Indonesian rubies. That's

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Speaker 5: duty sents. We brought back twenty packets of warriors.

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Speaker 3: For a packet of Did they stop you? Did they

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Speaker 3: did they look because you know that I would have

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01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: looked at that in the scanning thing and gone that's

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Speaker 3: probably cocaine.

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Speaker 12: Well we did, we did disclose them.

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Speaker 5: We were carefully, but I think if the self sealed package,

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Speaker 5: plus they saw the kids, that they probably thought Okay,

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Speaker 5: this looks genuine here. Kids love biscuits. It's really the worst.

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Speaker 5: Paying the thousand dollars to fly there just to save

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Speaker 5: two dollars per packet a fair point.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't it rip yundes When you get the you

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: see how little people are paying for the stuff. You're

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Speaker 3: paying so much more for guys, it's good to talk

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Speaker 3: to you. That's David farraphil Goffer Hudle this evening, eight

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio powered by news Talk zeb.

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Speaker 3: Heather, this is re Erica playing the recorder before. I

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01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 3: like the cut of Erica's jib and many other texts

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Speaker 3: along those lines, so I thought it's worth mentioning. She's

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Speaker 3: obviously onto something there. It doesn't feel Sam Dicky Rekins,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like there has been that much volatility

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: in the markets lately. But actually if you look underneath

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Speaker 3: the hood, there's a fair amount of volatility. So he

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Speaker 3: will talk us through what he's seeing when he's with

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Speaker 3: us at half past six. There is something in what

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Speaker 3: in Chris Bishop's speech today that caught my eye that

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Speaker 3: I thought I might draw to your attention. This is

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Speaker 3: the cost of subsidizing people's accommodation, you know, basically accommodation welfare.

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Speaker 3: When you add up all the ways that the government

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Speaker 3: pays for housing assistance through emergency housing, the accommodation supplement,

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Speaker 3: income related rents, all that kind of stuff, it costs

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Speaker 3: US five billion dollars every single year. Now, according to

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop, that is fifteen new motorways or seven new hospitals.

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Speaker 3: Every dollar, he said, spent on subsidizing rents is money

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01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: that can't be spent improving our education system or fixing

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01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: the health system. So you think about which of the

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Speaker 3: two you'd rather have. You'd rather have chucking people being subsidized.

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Speaker 13: Matter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the alternative is. I suppose bringing

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Speaker 3: down the cost of living but subsidizing people, or fifteen

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01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: new new motorways every single year, it's four away from six.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cheer you up with a story about

1384
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: because I feel like sometimes all we ever talk about

1385
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: is how criminals get away with all the bad stuff.

1386
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: Here's a story about how criminals can actually make things

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Speaker 3: worse for themselves and how they end up in jail

1388
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: being morons. There is a guy who has ended up

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Speaker 3: in jail when he actually had avoided jail. So he

1390
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: was busted for stealing a car and injuring with intent,

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Speaker 3: and so he went to court for it, and the judge,

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Speaker 3: because he's a judge, was light with the sentence and

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Speaker 3: he said to the guy yearning at the car and

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Speaker 3: an engine, say, well, I'm putting words, and his man

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: didn't actually say that, but he was like, they're home

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Speaker 3: D for you, and so the guy was like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 3: home D. So he said go straight home, and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna come around and put the ankle bracelet on you

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Speaker 3: for your home D. So the guy on his way

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Speaker 3: home decides to stop with his Farno for a beer.

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Speaker 3: The corrections officer turns up at his house at five,

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Speaker 3: he's not there. Turns up agin at eight. He's not there.

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: His brother was brother calls him, says, the corrections officers here.

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: He says, our town. The office had to wait for

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: thirty minutes, but he doesn't show up. But then the

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Speaker 3: cops show up and he does a runner, runs through

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Speaker 3: a gap in the fence, gaps it through to the

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Speaker 3: neighbor's property, jumps over a fence, hurts his leg they

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Speaker 3: catch him. He's now got himself two years in jail.

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Speaker 3: He could have just gone home and got the ankle

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Speaker 3: bracelet on, but instead two years in jail. Auckland Airports

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Speaker 3: with US next.

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Speaker 8: Five five brown five non brown as.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy? The big business questions

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with the Heather dupic Allen and

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Speaker 1: mass insurance and investments, Your futures in good hands? News

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Speaker 1: talks'd be even in.

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Speaker 3: Coming up in the next hour. It's looking good for Zestprey.

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Speaker 3: Jamie McKay will talk us through that, Sam Dickey on

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Speaker 3: the underlying volatility across the markets, and we'll go to

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Speaker 3: Endebrady out of the UK. At seven past six, Auckland

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Speaker 3: Airport has posted a steady half year result. Revenue is

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Speaker 3: up four percent nearly five hundred and twenty million dollars

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Speaker 3: and the dividend that will be paid out of six

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Speaker 3: and a half cents. Chief Executive Cuddy Hung and carry

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Speaker 3: Hodi Hunganui joins us now Hi carry Hi right, So

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Speaker 3: two percent passenger growth? Is that good?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 26: It is pleasing. You know, I think the word I'd

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Speaker 26: use is momentum.

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Speaker 3: Is building building, so where do we want to get

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Speaker 3: it to.

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Speaker 26: Well, if we step back and look to say, if

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Speaker 26: we look over the summer period, we did see a

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Speaker 26: four percent increase incapacity, which is great, but still only

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Speaker 26: sitting at not quite ninety five percent of twenty nineteen levels.

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Speaker 26: And I'd love to stop referring to twenty nineteen as

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Speaker 26: the comparative, but at this point it is still a

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Speaker 26: good reference point. Understand how that recovery is progressing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're still very much in catch up mode.

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: How long do you reckon before we actually started clipsing

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Speaker 3: that and get on the other side.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, it's a great question. What we are seeing. Demand

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 26: is certainly there. We're seeing percentage point five percentage point

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Speaker 26: lift in December versus twenty nineteen on load factors, meaning

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 26: that demand is upacing supply. You still have this global

1448
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 26: supply chain issue around jets, engines, et cetera that is

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 26: subduing that. The flip side, though, is that is starting

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01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 26: to wash through. You know, we were delighted to get

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Speaker 26: tai airwas announcement of returning to the market, and part

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 26: of that is as they are getting additional fleet they are.

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Speaker 26: They were able to return to New Zealand, which is great.

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Speaker 3: How things going between yourselves and any New Zealand.

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Speaker 26: I think certainly we've talked about this before. They're on

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Speaker 26: an operational basis.

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 3: We have day to day a lot of activity.

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Speaker 26: They had a tough week the other week with a

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Speaker 26: strike and certainly we supported them with getting restarted out

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 26: of that. So I think that's really strong. I think

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Speaker 26: there's always points of difference when it comes to racing

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Speaker 26: every five years, and so that's not unexpected and one

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Speaker 26: of the natural tensions the airports and airlines tend to have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and.

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Speaker 3: I feel as if it's not coincidence. What do you

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: think that they've popped up at a select committee on

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Speaker 3: the day that you report to the markets and they're

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Speaker 3: complaining about your pricing.

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Speaker 26: Well, I don't know as far as the calendar of

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Speaker 26: flut committees and when they are sat, but what I

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Speaker 26: can say is open airport. Certainly, we are focused on

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Speaker 26: delivering capacity and resilience that you know New Zealander they're

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Speaker 26: asking for, and I would encourage their New Zealand to

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Speaker 26: do the same. Our country needs a strong and growing

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Speaker 26: national airlines. But I think context is important and facts matter,

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Speaker 26: that airports are not and shouldn't be the scapegoats for

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Speaker 26: some of the challenges that they've been experiencing.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I mean it seems to me the

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Speaker 3: solution here in New Zealand's complaining says you're charging too much.

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Speaker 3: You guys say you need the money for the renovation.

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: Is there a middle ground here where maybe you just

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Speaker 3: drop down slightly what you ask for?

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Speaker 26: Well, I think there's a couple of things in that.

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 26: How airports are user pays infrastructure. We're regulated to ensure

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 26: we chair charge fair prices. I think yesterday or the

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 26: day before, Infrastructure Commission talked about actually network infrastructure should

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Speaker 26: be funded by user pays. Really again, I think we're

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,520
Speaker 26: mixing our drinks a little bit. When you look at airlines,

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Speaker 26: the way they offer that manage cost increases is growth.

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Speaker 26: And when you look at air New Zealand, for a

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Speaker 26: whole bunch of reasons, they have had challenges with not growing,

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 26: but they're bucking the trend. Globally and regionally, airlines are

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Speaker 26: grow and that's how you manage your cost per unit.

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 26: And so I think there's an element there that they

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 26: need to look at is again, what are the reasons

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01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 26: why their costs are increasing in their abilities to manage that?

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Speaker 26: It isn't airports as the primary cause.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 26: The second is we want them to grow too. Their

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 26: position is hurting New Zealand and New Zealanders if they

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 26: don't grow, So we want them to grow. But I

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 26: do think questions should be asked more deeply about their

1503
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 26: cost base and their strategy, things like airfare monitoring and

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 26: actually interrogating those elements. Airports are regulated and we have

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 26: huge disclosure requirements, whereas for air New Zealand we just

1506
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 26: need to believe what they say. There isn't any form

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Speaker 26: of disclosure requirements or validation, and I think that's a

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 26: starting point to understand kind of what some of the

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Speaker 26: core issues are.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the renovation, how's it looking, because either time

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Speaker 3: I go there, it looks bloody brilliant. Frankly, well, it's

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Speaker 3: coming along.

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Speaker 26: It's coming along well actually, I mean we are on

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Speaker 26: track to open it in twenty twenty nine. We've had

1515
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Speaker 26: some key milestones in this period, just pass that we

1516
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 26: reported on today, which is fantastic, and travelers will start

1517
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 26: to see that more directly as we start to transform

1518
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 26: the check in area from quarter two this year. Clearly

1519
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Speaker 26: we will do everything possible to minimize the impact and

1520
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Speaker 26: it will be fabulous on the other side, but there

1521
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 26: is going to be a period of disruption that we

1522
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Speaker 26: certainly appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: When's the other side, by the way, when do we

1524
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Speaker 3: get to see the new Chicken experience.

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Speaker 26: We'll all do because we don't want to reduce capacity,

1526
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 26: so we are taking in effect, we're renovating a zone

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 26: at a time in the international check in area, and

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Speaker 26: so that will take eighteen to twenty four months to

1529
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Speaker 26: kind of work through that so that we can maintain

1530
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Speaker 26: capacity throughout and ensure that travelers are having a seamless journey.

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Speaker 26: So that will take up to twenty four months. And

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Speaker 26: then I said we're on track for the integrated terminal

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Speaker 26: to open in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, looking forward to it. Carrie, Thanks very much

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Speaker 3: as always, Carrie her tohung Anui Auckland Airport Chief Executive

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Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: Allen on the Business Hour with Maths, Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands us talk z'd.

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: Be seventeen pass six and Jamie mckaie, hosts of the

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Speaker 3: Countries with us right now, Hi, Jamie good I hear that.

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Speaker 3: So the Fonterra shareholders have said yes to the sale.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Shakharror. Ninety nine percent of them said yes. Unlike

1569
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: the turkeys, Heather, they voted for an early Christmas, so overwhelming,

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 2: no surprise there. Four point two billion was the sale

1571
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: price of the mainland consumer brands to Luck to lease

1572
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: the French company. They're going to pay out three point

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: two billion to the shareholders. We know all this two

1574
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: dollars per share. It's going to be something like nearly

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01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars for your average Fonterra shareholder. Sixty

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 2: percent of them will get at least a couple one

1577
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: hundred grand. And they're big boys, the big suppliers will

1578
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 2: get two to three million dollars, So we're expecting this

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: to settle before March thirty one, and then the capital

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 2: return will take place. If you're wondering, what's happening to

1581
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: the other billion that's left over. The balance of the

1582
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: sale proceeds will be retained by the co op to

1583
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: reinvest in its ingredients and food service business. But that's

1584
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: not the big question from fonterrahead. The big question, and

1585
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: I've got Myles Hurrel on my show tomorrow and I'll

1586
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: ask him this one is when is he going to

1587
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: raise the farm gate milk price? Remember just before Christmas

1588
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: they dropped it down to a midpoint of nine after

1589
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: nine GDT drops in a row. Well, we've had four

1590
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: really good actions to kick off twenty twenty six, so

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: I would expect sooner rather than later for that midpoint,

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: maybe to get up to nine dollars fifty Yep. Good.

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Speaker 3: I like the sound of that. And speaking of good things,

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: Zesbury is looking pretty good.

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: Ah yeah.

1596
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: It's final forecast for the twenty five twenty six season

1597
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 2: before it gives its final numbers out record returns or

1598
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: record returns per hectare for all fruit categories. That's the

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Speaker 2: whole lot. Now, the likes of Zesbury Green, organic green,

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Speaker 2: and organic sun gold, they've gone up in price. All

1601
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: the rest have held their own. For example, like a

1602
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: tray of Zesbury Green, the good old Chinese gooseberry that

1603
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: we remember from years and years ago. Look that is

1604
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: now up to ten dollars per tray. That is great money.

1605
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: Sun gold the most popular, on eleven dollars seventy a tray.

1606
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: There's a significant premium four organic the likes the sun

1607
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 2: Gold it's another four dollars a tray, so up to

1608
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: about fifteen dollars eighty there. Interestingly, the per hectare returns

1609
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 2: for the organic versus the traditionally grown sun gold pretty

1610
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: much the same on a per hector basis, and that's

1611
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 2: because of the lower yield from the organic crop. So

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: zespri have come out and said they've got a record

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Speaker 2: crop of around two hundred and fifteen million trays to sell.

1614
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: They're going to have no problem doing that. Early estimates

1615
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 2: indicate there's another record crop of two hundred and twenty

1616
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 2: million for the season that we've just started picking.

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01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: The picking for the ruby red is underway now and

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: Zesprey Chief executive Jason to Brak. He said they're trying

1620
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: to get their marketing team out there. They're going to

1621
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 2: sell a large proportion of the crop early in the

1622
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: season to help avoid the late season fruit quality costs

1623
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: that they experience with some gold last season. So look,

1624
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: Heather Kwi fruit going great. Guns are red meat at

1625
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: Record High's Dairy on the way back up. It's all

1626
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: looking good unless you're an arable farmer and Canterbury where

1627
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: you just.

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 7: Can't get a break.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too right, hey, thank you very much as always,

1630
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 3: Jamie Jammi McKay, Host of the Country. Speaking of being

1631
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: down south, Sam Neil is ramping up his campaign against

1632
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: that planned Santana Minerals mine near Cromwell. He's made a

1633
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 3: video and released it. It's called Into the Dunston Mountains

1634
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: with Sam Neil.

1635
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 25: Millions of tons of rock will be blown up, haul

1636
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 25: and crushed. All this landscape will completely change Central Targo

1637
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 25: will completely change and not for the better.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, he's just one man, but I'll tell

1639
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 3: you what, it's got a lot of power, old Sam Neil.

1640
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure Santana Minerals will be a bit gutted that

1641
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 3: this is the opposition they're up against six twenty two.

1642
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: Whether it's Macro's Micro or just plain economics. All on

1643
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: the Business Hour with the head the duper cl and

1644
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: Mas Insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands. News

1645
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: talks'd be.

1646
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 3: Just a reminder, Sam Dicky's going to be shortly talk

1647
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 3: us through the volatility in the markets that you may

1648
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: not see, but which he can see. I am very

1649
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: happy to tell you that one of my predictions has

1650
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: come true, which is not a surprise at all, because

1651
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 3: it was obvious that this was going to happen. The

1652
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: ban on the payWave surcharges is going absolutely nowhere. New

1653
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: Zealand First has said to reporters today it's going nowhere.

1654
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: Chris Luxen has said it's the government's taking a breather

1655
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: on it. He says they're still under consideration. We just

1656
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 3: want to make sure we understand all of the implications

1657
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 3: before we push the final button on it. And actors

1658
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 3: taking the credit basic claiming the credit for having killed

1659
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 3: the thing off. He said, I've listened to this is

1660
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 3: David Seymore. I've listened to small business people saying we've

1661
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: got we get a million bucks through our card system.

1662
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: A two percent fee would eat up to twenty thousand

1663
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: dollars our small business can't afford that. Now that I

1664
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: mean that that was always going to happen every time

1665
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 3: we had somebody on the show going no, this is

1666
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: a great idea, I can't wait for the band, It's

1667
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: going to be awesome. Would just be like, what is

1668
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: it that you can't see here? This was always going

1669
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: to eat into the margins of small business. We are

1670
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: in an election year, it shouldn't happen like that would

1671
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 3: be the dumbest thing to turn off small business voters

1672
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 3: during election year. Yet again, yet again. If you need

1673
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: another example of why we need to stick with a

1674
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: three year term, it's this. Another stupid idea killed because

1675
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 3: it's election year six twenty five.

1676
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1677
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: If you don't like politics in your music, this is

1678
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 3: not gonna surprise you. You're not gonna like U two's

1679
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: latest offering. Remember, but why it's not a surprise because

1680
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 3: you remember that time when they forced their album onto

1681
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 3: everyone's iPhone? Yeah, captain point made Anyway, they've released some

1682
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 3: new music today. This is its six songs on an

1683
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: EP called Days of Ash and they're saying this is

1684
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: fully a protest EP. They've written songs about ice, songs

1685
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: about potent, songs about Benyaminett and yacht such all the

1686
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: hot button issues that will rack you up. The song

1687
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 3: that's playing right now is called American Obituary. It's their

1688
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: anti ice anthem. Anyone ever listen?

1689
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 15: Thing go on?

1690
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: As It has lyrics referring to the shooting of Renee

1691
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: Good Renee the domestic terrorist. It says, what you can't kill,

1692
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: can't die, America will rise against the people of the lie.

1693
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 3: You've also got a song featuring Ed Sheeran. The song

1694
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: called Yours Eternally is written from the perspective of a

1695
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: Ukrainian soldier on the front lines writing letters to home.

1696
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 3: Is this the same song? Still hans? What is still

1697
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: the same song? It's very noisy, isn't it. Guitarist The

1698
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,919
Speaker 3: Edge has spoken about the new PEP and a fan magazine.

1699
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 3: He says, we believe in a world where borders are

1700
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 3: not raised by force, where culture, language and memory are

1701
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: not silenced by fear, where the dignity of a people

1702
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: is not negotiable. And if you're thinking, wow, I need

1703
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: more than six protests songs. Don't worry. They confirmed that

1704
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: there's a brand new album coming out later this year.

1705
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 3: It'll be almost entirely a different product to the new EP. Apparently,

1706
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 3: the EP songs are songs of dismay and lamentation, whereas

1707
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,879
Speaker 3: the new album will be filled with songs of celebration.

1708
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: With the carnival vibe gone. Then ant's put it.

1709
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 7: Up America Wila.

1710
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 8: I guess that's people love.

1711
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 17: Them certainly sounds like a You Two song?

1712
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 22: Is I mean?

1713
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 3: I love You two so much that I'm probably just

1714
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: going to put up with ekkerfuffle on this one, to

1715
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: be honest. Just I don't know. I mean, we'll see,

1716
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: you know. They mostly they're more more hits than this,

1717
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? But yeah, I can't

1718
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: say that that's a strong line people of the lie.

1719
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 3: It's a bit lame, isn't it Anyway? Sam Dickie's with

1720
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: us next years to TIV.

1721
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1722
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: with Heather Duplicy, alot and mass Insurance and investments, your

1723
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: futures in good hands used talks that'd be.

1724
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Speaker 3: We have got end of Brady standing by out of

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: the UK with us very shortly, little updown on what's

1726
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,919
Speaker 3: going on with Poe going into the water and Wellington.

1727
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: Apparently they're now flying experts in from Australia to help

1728
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Speaker 3: assess the damage. Hither. I'm stuck in traffic around Oriental Bay.

1729
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: I've seen six Crown cars headed the other way towards

1730
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: the airport. Next time you have Chris Bishop on the show,

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 3: can you ask him why the MPs can't ride here

1732
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: to the airport to cut down on the traffic congestion.

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Speaker 3: Will do twenty four away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Now, Heather duplicy.

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Speaker 3: Alan markets may not seem to have been overly volatile

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: in recent weeks. Most markets are at or near all

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 3: time highs, but apparently that's masking an unusual amount of

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 3: volatility below the surface. Samdicki from Fisher Farns has been

1739
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 3: watching all of this carrying on and he's.

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Speaker 2: With us now.

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Speaker 7: Hi, Sam, good evening.

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 22: So what is going on?

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing moving fast below the surface?

1744
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 16: Yes, the duck analogy definitely springs to mind or calm

1745
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 16: on the surface, but paddling like crazy underneath. So global

1746
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 16: stock markets are up a couple percent this year at

1747
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 16: all time highs as you said, but underneath the hood,

1748
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 16: you've got sectors like software companies down twenty percent, and

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Speaker 16: on the other hand, you've got energy companies and more

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 16: cycnical companies up up twenty percent. And that's a forty

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 16: percent spread between sectors and what sex weeks of training

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 16: so far this year, So that is extraordinary, that sort

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01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 16: of dispersion.

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01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 3: Why is this happening.

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01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 16: There's some extreme greed and fear going on, and interestingly

1756
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 16: it's mostly fear right now, which is ironic given markets

1757
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 16: at all time highs.

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01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: So you got two sides of that fear trade.

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Speaker 16: That the primary narrative driving this is the expanding list

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 16: of so called AI losers. So it started well with

1761
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 16: kind of last year, some weakes software companies been considered

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 16: losers that AI could replicate or at least do more cheaply,

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01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 16: to what people now call calling the soft apocalypse. Anything

1764
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 16: with software in its name has been hammered, and that's

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01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 16: now broadened out to any company that really sells human

1766
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 16: time is now caught up in this mailstream.

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01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: And the other side of that trade.

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Speaker 16: Is investors are piling into anything it appears to be

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Speaker 16: AI immune that AI can't replicate or weaken its moat

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Speaker 16: so hard a set names like industrials, energy, heavy equipment, commodities,

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Speaker 16: and bricks and mortar retailers, And a good example there

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Speaker 16: is Walmart. It's your bog standard bricks and mortar retailer

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Speaker 16: that AI allegedly can't replace, and that's up twenty percent

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Speaker 16: this year. So that's the other side the fear trade.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting stuff. So what does it mean for investors

1776
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Speaker 3: who are looking at all of.

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Speaker 16: This, Well, that's six weeks. That's pretty extreme dispersion. And

1778
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 16: when we see moves this extreme, it means there's some

1779
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 16: exciting opportunities out there. So swept up in this AI

1780
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 16: loser trade companies like Amazon that have spent a bit

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 16: too much on AI investments. You and I spoke last

1782
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 16: year about the fact that rubble would meet the road

1783
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 16: this year on those companies having to show a return

1784
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 16: plus the market as worried AI agents will replicate or

1785
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 16: at least significantly weaken Amazon's e commerce business. For context,

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 16: Amazon and Walmart are both retailers. Walmart's growing less than

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01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 16: half as fast as Amazon, but it's trading on more

1788
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 16: than twice evaluation multiple and those sort of extreme distiications

1789
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 16: are littered throughout markets at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Sam, it's good to talk to you. Thanks, man, will

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Speaker 3: talk to you in a week's time. That Sam Dicky

1792
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 3: official funds right now. It's twenty one away from seven.

1793
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Speaker 1: Ever, do for see Ellen whether the South.

1794
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: Island landscape we see today is the result of gold mining.

1795
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I love Sam Neil, but take a chill pill Mat.

1796
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, Larry Hither. The greatest political album ever is

1797
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 3: Street Fighting Years by Simple Minds. I'm gonna have to

1798
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 3: take your word for that, Nick, I don't think I

1799
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 3: listened to that album and it's entirety tell you what

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01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: I can say about Simple Minds. Those suck suck live

1801
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 3: a really suck. Remember I went to that concert and

1802
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 3: where was a little bit of an outside of Queenstown

1803
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 3: where they drink the wine? I can't remember either. Maybe

1804
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 3: I'm still suffering from the hangover of that anyway. Yeah,

1805
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 3: and Jim sat on stage. He just sat on stage

1806
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: being just the laziest man you've ever seen. So if

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01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: you see Simple Minds, just go no, thank you very much,

1808
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 3: not going to go watch that now. The drugs case

1809
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 3: involving John Olomo's brother John Lomo is fascinating if only

1810
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: because it gives you an insight into how these guys

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01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 3: get the drugs into the country. I mean, this is

1812
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 3: it probably is exactly how you expect it works, but

1813
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 3: they've laid it out for us in the court documents.

1814
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Speaker 3: So what was going on was John was working at FedEx.

1815
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: He was working at the East Tamaki facility as like

1816
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 3: a ramp but a ramp agent, and so he would

1817
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 3: obviously get all the parcels as they arrived. So these

1818
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 3: parcels would come in and they'd be labeled as like

1819
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,839
Speaker 3: really innocuous things like organic bedding or yoga mat or books,

1820
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: heating packs, multi purpose table coffee, like a lot of

1821
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 3: that is so boring and you wouldn't even bother to

1822
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: look at it anyway. So the parcels come in, he's

1823
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 3: there as the ramp agent. So what does he do.

1824
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 3: He grabs the parcels. He knows what he's looking for,

1825
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: grabs the parcels, takes the parcels away. He then meets

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Speaker 3: his co accused, who's a chap called Cela Viva. Now

1827
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,839
Speaker 3: Cela Iva used to work in FedEx, but then obviously

1828
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: stopped working there. So John started doing all the stuff

1829
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: for him, he'd take the parcels to sella Cela would

1830
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 3: get in that Seala would take the drugs out, and

1831
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: then they would put the package back together, basically put

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Speaker 3: the back of the package back into the freight process.

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01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: The trouble for them, of course, is that the investigators

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01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: from the National Organized Crime Group and Customs were watching,

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01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: and they were using GPS tracking and surveillance and camera

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: footage and stuff like they were filming covertly. They knew

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01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 3: what was going on, they just needed to be able

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01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 3: to prove it. So afterwards, once they were back in

1839
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,919
Speaker 3: the freight process, these dudes would obviously from the investigator,

1840
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: would get hold of the packages themselves have a look

1841
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: what's going on on the inside. In one instance, a

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01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 3: package that said it was clothing actually had new and

1843
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: used clothing inside two blocks of a four paper and

1844
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 3: was about eleven CAGs less than it was supposed to

1845
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: be in the declared weight. That'll be the drugs that

1846
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: were removed. Another consignment was described as visually damaged, indicating

1847
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 3: it had been open prior to the customs examination process.

1848
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,879
Speaker 3: So then they had a look at the bank accounts.

1849
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: About three hundred and sixty thousand dollars was deposited into

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01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: a wise account. In another bank account, there was twenty

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: four thousand dollars, which was twelve cash deposits, and then

1852
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: there was cash money at Vivi's address as well. Now

1853
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I mean twelve cash

1854
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: deposits totaling twenty four thousand dollars means they were getting

1855
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 3: paid two thousand dollars a pop. No, thanks very much.

1856
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: I don't reckon that I would be doing it for

1857
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars a pop. Like it would take a

1858
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 3: hell of a lot more money if you were going

1859
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 3: to bend me. Because these guys are now facing maximum

1860
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 3: penalties of up to eight years imprisonment on the drug charges.

1861
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 3: You will remember why this is interesting is if you've

1862
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: been following the Crime Task Force. Remember the Crime Task

1863
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 3: Force was organized and asked to do a bunch of

1864
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 3: reports and I think they might have done done six

1865
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 3: in the end. Having a look at what they organized crime,

1866
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 3: like where our vulnerabilities were when it came to organized crime,

1867
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 3: And some of it was corruption of officials, but some

1868
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 3: of it was definitely at the border. They were like,

1869
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: the border is where we are vulnerable. This is a

1870
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: case of exactly that isn't it seventeen away from seven?

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1872
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas insurance

1873
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: and investments, your futures in good hands, News talks. I'd

1874
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: be hither.

1875
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: It was the Gibston Valley, quite right, and thank you

1876
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 3: very much. And while we're on that subject, let me

1877
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 3: just tell you Texas you want to see Texas life.

1878
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: That was awesome. Card it to seven. End of Brady

1879
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: UK correspondence with us Allouenda, Hello, how are you? I'm

1880
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 3: very well, thank you mate. How many UK police forces

1881
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: are now investigating the Epstein files.

1882
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 7: We're up to nine police forces now across the country

1883
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 7: the latest Police Scotland. A lot of them are looking

1884
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 7: at airports in their jurisdiction, their geographic areas. So we've

1885
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 7: got stunts that airport looting, Airport, Edinburgh Airport. I got

1886
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 7: told last week by a senior police figure that Epstein's

1887
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 7: jet landed in the UK on ninety occasions in about

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01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 7: a year and a half. And police are not convinced

1889
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 7: he was on the jet every single time, but they

1890
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 7: are convinced that young girls were, So where were those

1891
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 7: girls going they were clearly being trafficked. Where they seeing

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01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 7: members being sent to members of the royal family? Perhaps

1893
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 7: that's the question. So it's a very very significant investigation

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01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 7: into the Epstein files.

1895
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: Now, so is this an investigation with a view of

1896
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 3: tightening the noose around Andrew? Is that what it's about?

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01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,839
Speaker 7: Absolutely? And others whoever else was involved. So it's very interesting.

1898
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 7: Surrey Police, which is a force area just south of London,

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01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 7: they are now investigating an allegation of abuse against a minor,

1900
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 7: so that would be a girl under the age of

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01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 7: sixteen in the nineties and they're calling on any member

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01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 7: of the public with information to come forward. Several other

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01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 7: forces have said that as well, And I think what

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01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 7: we're going to see is several prongs to this investigation

1905
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 7: or investigations plural. We will see the financial reports, the

1906
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 7: government reports that were allegedly forwarded by email by Andrew

1907
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 7: to Epstein, and then the allegations of sexual abuse and

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01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 7: trafficking as well. So this is going to run for years.

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01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that, all right. Listen, what's the

1910
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 3: plan for celebrating David Edinburghs one hundred years?

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01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 7: The BBC have just announced a full special week of

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01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 7: programs in May, a new documentary series. So they're going

1913
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 7: to have some material which will be the best of

1914
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 7: the old stuff and everything that just blew people's minds.

1915
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 7: You know, when the world was much smaller, we didn't

1916
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 7: travel as much. We certainly didn't go to some of

1917
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 7: the places Atenburgh was going to in the sixties and

1918
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 7: seventies and how we brought wildlife into people's living rooms.

1919
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,959
Speaker 7: There's going to be a new series about English gardens

1920
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 7: and English counties and the wildlife therein and then they're

1921
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 7: going to have a big kind of special live broadcast

1922
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 7: event from the Royal Albert Hall with the BBC Concert

1923
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 7: Orchestra as well. It's just spectacular.

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01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 3: So apparently you tried to call him once but you

1925
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 3: got the wrong guy.

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01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 7: Yes, so day one as a reporter. This is quite

1927
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 7: funny and very embarrassing to tell, but this happened word

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01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 7: for word. I was straight out of university and straight

1929
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 7: into a job as a cub reporter at the Press Association,

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01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 7: which still is a news agency, and I was given

1931
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 7: a press release about this new project down in Cornwall,

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01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 7: an ecological project called the Eden Project, and the news

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01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 7: editor said to me, oh, just ring up a ring

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Speaker 7: up a famous wildlife guy and get some quotes. So

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Speaker 7: I went back to my desk and I sat down,

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Speaker 7: and then I thought famous wildlife guy, famous the wildlife guy.

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Speaker 7: So he then came back and he said ring Attenborough.

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Speaker 7: So I looked on the computer system and this would

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Speaker 7: before mobile phones, and sure enough they had a landline

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Speaker 7: number for a mister Attenborough. So I rang up and

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Speaker 7: I said, hello, sir, and de Brady's my name. I'm

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Speaker 7: a new reporter. Blah blah blah, explain this amazing ecological

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Speaker 7: project down in Hornwall. And the voice came booming back

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Speaker 7: on the phone. I'll never forget it, and he goes,

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Speaker 7: this is Dickie, I'm his brother. You want David and

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Speaker 7: then got the wrong I only wrung up bloody Richard Attenborough.

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Speaker 7: But there we go. And then I actually met David

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Speaker 7: years later. I told him the story. He could not

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Speaker 7: stop laughing and he said, you became a reporter after all,

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Speaker 7: and I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They goes to show don't judge yourself by what you

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Speaker 3: do on day one at stay how that met us?

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Speaker 3: But didn't didn't Princess and just basically do something similar.

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Speaker 7: Yes, So this is a great story England, Scotland and

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Speaker 7: the rugby at the weekend. Princess Anne is patron of

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Speaker 7: Scottish Rugby and she was being introduced to the England players. Now,

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Speaker 7: we've had a TV show here called The Traitors and

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Speaker 7: they had a celebrity version of us. And on that

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Speaker 7: celebrity version was Joe Marler who used to play for

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Speaker 7: England and he retired two years ago, big blockie guy,

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Speaker 7: bald head beard, like a lot of these big rugby guys.

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Speaker 7: So she comes up to Joe Hayes in the England

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Speaker 7: line up and she said, what an honor to meet you, said,

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Speaker 7: you're an awfully funny man, and Joe Hayes now was

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Speaker 7: given an interview saying I've never thought I was that funny.

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Speaker 7: And she then followed up and said, bren't she You

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Speaker 7: were just brilliant on the Traders and she walked on. So, yeah,

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Speaker 7: poor old Joe Hayes playing for England for years and

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Speaker 7: she thought he was Joe Marler.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, bless you know. She's the best though, She's

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Speaker 3: absolutely the best member of the royal family. And to

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Speaker 3: thank you for that appreciated into Brady UK correspondent. I

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Speaker 3: kind of did something similar last night as Darcy comes

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Speaker 3: into the studio when we're going out of the studio,

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Speaker 3: because we basically used that. We obviously just I go out,

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Speaker 3: he comes and carries on breaths my air, no problem. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: as I was going out, he had he had this

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Speaker 3: very handsome, like muscular man in in the producer's studio.

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Speaker 3: We walk out, we go straight at the producer studio

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Speaker 3: and I thought, I think I'd met this man before

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Speaker 3: because he sometase because it's a sports show. Darcy quite

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Speaker 3: regularly has handsome muscular men on his show, and so

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was the guy that and

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Speaker 3: he looked very sporty, and I was like, I didn't

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Speaker 3: know if this was the guy that I'd met before

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Speaker 3: or not. And I don't want to be rude, because

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Speaker 3: you know, frankly, to me, a lot of muscular men

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Speaker 3: just all looks spawty. They just all look exactly exactly

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Speaker 3: the same. It's all the same basically. So I said him,

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Speaker 3: good are you doing appen year year and shook his

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Speaker 3: hand and then walked out. And then I said to

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Speaker 3: keV the producer, who is that who was that guy?

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Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know, And then I asked

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Speaker 3: somebody else, who is that guy? No, I don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: keV came back in and Darcy's got young Corbyn working

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Speaker 3: for him now, who's also frankly quite a handsome, muscular man.

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Speaker 3: And and Kevin said to Corbyn, oh, who's that guy?

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Speaker 3: And Corben was like, my dad.

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Speaker 16: So I just.

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Speaker 3: Introduced myself to Corbyn the producer's dad, like like I knew,

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Speaker 3: like long lost, long lost friend, known for years, seen

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Speaker 3: him in and out of here all the time, No

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Speaker 3: bloody idea, who know? Anyway, he would have been like

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Speaker 3: Jesus people at News Talks, it'd be a really friendly

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Speaker 3: because Corbyn's only just started working here, so he'd been like,

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Speaker 3: you've a great place to work Forben. That's just so lovely.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely ight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather Toople See Allan Drive full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk zebby.

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Speaker 3: Hither I saw Simple Minds in the early eighties when

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Speaker 3: Jim was more new Violin was dating Chrissy Hind Will

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Speaker 3: you have to be She's a fire Boxes and she

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Speaker 3: The songs were from their first four albums, Son of Fascination,

2015
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Speaker 3: Sister Feelings called New Gold Dream. He was dancing up

2016
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Speaker 3: a storm, was really cool. Sounds like he must have

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Speaker 3: got a bit older when you saw him. Needed a

2018
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Speaker 3: cup of tea and a lightown love your show. That

2019
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Speaker 3: sounded like that to me. It felt like that to

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Speaker 3: me too. Now listen, I have got a little bit

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Speaker 3: of life's advice for you from Liam Lawson, like I got.

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Speaker 27: I actually deleted all complete all social media channels, off

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Speaker 27: apps off my phone for quite a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 27: like I and I and then want to feel there.

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Speaker 27: I re downloaded a couple but I've basically kept it.

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Speaker 27: So everything if one racing, anything racing related or like

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Speaker 27: sport related, it's just muted and not I can't see anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 27: so it's just friends, family and stuff that I you

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Speaker 27: know what, actually what I want to see on on

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Speaker 27: social media.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying this to you for ages, but I

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Speaker 3: say a lot of things to you and eventually you

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Speaker 3: just go white noise. Which it's fine. I get it this.

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Speaker 3: My husband does that too, and I feel like the

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Speaker 3: children are on that path as well. So if Liam

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Speaker 3: says it to you, right, Because Liam got trolled after

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Speaker 3: the promotion and the demotion he got trolled something epic.

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Speaker 3: He turned it off. Life is better, so he says

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Speaker 3: it's great. So if Liam said it, do it, do it,

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Speaker 3: you will thank me for it. Well you'll thank Liam

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 17: And Symphony by a clean bandit and Zara laston to

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Speaker 17: play us out tonight. This is fascinating. So we talked

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Speaker 17: earlier this week about how Zara Last and the Swedish

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Speaker 17: pop star was going to come to New Zealand and

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Speaker 17: play a show at Spark Arena. So after I broke

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Speaker 17: the well, I didn't write this. After we reported that

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Speaker 17: news on Monday, the tickets went on sale and they

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Speaker 17: sold They're gone all.

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Speaker 3: The tea do you mean? Is the sentence? They sold

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Speaker 3: out out.

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Speaker 17: They sold out, like yeah, so Spark Arena completely sold out,

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Speaker 17: so they've ad a second show today. That's the news. Monday,

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Speaker 17: the twenty sixth of October. Sarah Alarson will playing this

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Speaker 17: Atterie blew my mind just because she has been absent

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Speaker 17: from the New Zealand charts since twenty sixteen, and yet

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Speaker 17: there are just clearly twelve fourteen thousand fans in Auckland

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Speaker 17: who will really want to see Zar Larson's opening for

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Speaker 17: some other bird. Well, yeah, I know, I'm starting to

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Speaker 17: wonder whether they actually it wasn't another bird?

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Speaker 3: Was that it was there?

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Speaker 6: There was one republic?

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Speaker 17: But yeah, absolutely, she's sparker in her and a half

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Speaker 17: out by herself.

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Speaker 3: You go love, talk about underestimating your own potential. All right,

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Speaker 3: you have a lovely day. I'll see you tomorrow, news

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Speaker 3: Folk Zippy.

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