1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Brian Bred back to the juicy details around Adriannall's resignation. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Jane to Pshriny is The Herald's Wellington business editor. She's 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: been looking into this. Janee, good evening, Hi Ryan, it's 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: so best Oia. You've got back in a week while 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: what's what's the gist. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Was a pretty juicy day for me. We got some 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: documents back from Nikola Willis's office. They showed a couple 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: of things. Firstly, they showed that Adrian the Reserve Bank 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: had planned to announce Adrianall's resignation on March ten. That 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: would have been after the Reserve Bank hosted a massive 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: conference with international economists from around the world, but that 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: announcement actually ended up being made on March five, the 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: day before the conference. So I remember on March five, 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: it was all a scramble. The Reserve Bank ended up 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: calling a press conference late in the day and this 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: was all happening as economists were arriving in New Zealand 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: from around the world ready for this big conference the 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: following day to mark thirty five years of inflation targeting. 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: So what we don't know is why was that announcement 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: brought forward? And you know what prompted that, because it's 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: pretty embarrassing for New Zealand to host a big conference 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: and for the big news of the day to be 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: the governor of the Reserve Bank has just resigned. So 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: that was one little nugget. The other one was that 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: the documents show that Nicola Willis's press secretary prepped her 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: and said, look, here's a list of questions that journalists 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: might ask you about Aw's resignation. A couple of the 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: questions the Press sect said might be asked were around 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: meetings that Nicola Willis had with ad Renal. Specifically, a 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: question he said media might ask is, did or raise 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: his voice with you? And were their disagreements with you? 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: So we don't know if a meeting that happened before 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: he resigned, you know how feisty it was, whether people 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: raise their voices or not. But the fact that the 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Press Sects has prepared Nichola Willis for questions around that, 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, it tells us somewhat juicy and interesting story. 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is interesting because it's not like and 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: we can't say whether Adrian all raised his voice in 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: that meaning because we were there and clearly Nichola Willis 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: is not telling us, but you would ask the question, 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: do the pre sects prepare for every meeting that the 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: minister has? Do they say, Hey, someone might ask you 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: where the voices were raised? You know what I mean? 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: You can kind of make your own inference. I suppose, 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: can't you. 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, and you know we did ask 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: Nichola Willis at the time. I asked, actually was Adrian 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: or sick? And I asked was the misconduct involved? So 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: that these were fair questions that we did ask. My 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: biggest sort of my guess as to to why he 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: resigned would and this is just a guess, would be 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: that he clashed with Nichola Willis over the amount of 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: government funding the Reserve Bank would receive. And also they 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: clashed over the amount of capital that the Reserve Bank 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: requires banks to hold to make them strong. So those 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: are two things. It's probably about that. But you know, 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: I feel like details will just keep trickling out over. 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Time, slowly but surely, a couple of big issues, couple 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: of big personalities, and maybe some raised voices. Thank you 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: for that, Genati of training insit heroes running in business 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: ESA For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live 62 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio