1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: used talks. It'd be. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: As goodboding to you and welcome to the program. You've 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: made it to Thursday, and thank you so much for 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: choosing us. Coming up in the next sixty minutes, the 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Royal New Zealand College of GPS reckons the primary healthcare 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: is being financially neglected. We'll find out if it is 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: or is this just another play for more budget. We'll 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: talk about this in about five minutes time. West Pact 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: reckons the regulations around banks and how much capital they 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: carry are excessive and unnecessary. That story in ten and 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: will it reduce your mortgage if it happens? And Liam 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: Lawson in the eye of the global storm, what's the 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: latest and can he survive it. Bob McMurray joins us 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: just before six. We'll have correspondence from right around the world, 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: including Mitch McCann from the States on the group chat Saga. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and use 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: as it breaks, and you can have your say too 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: by giving us a text. Charge applies and the number 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: is ninety two to ninety two. It's seven minutes after five. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: The agenda. 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, the twenty seventh of March. First to this 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: whole group chat thing that's happening in the United States. 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: The Atlantic magazine has now published the full exchange of 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: messages between senior White House officials as the US conducted 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: strikes in Yemen this month. The newly revealed messages show 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Higsyth sharing information about the raids, including 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: exact timings of drone and missile attacks on the Hooties 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: and updates on the target's hit. The Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg, 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: who was added to the chat, initially didn't publish all 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: of the messages to avoid revealing classified information, but because 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: of the White House claims that he's lying, he decided 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: to disclose the whole thing. National Security applies to Mike Watts, 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: though is doubling down. He reckons that he adds that 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Goldberg claims there were no war plan. Shit. 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. Yes, we're going to get to the bottom 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: of it. We have. I just talked to Elon on 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: the way here. We've got the best technical minds looking 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: at how this happened. But I can tell you. I 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: can tell you for one hundred percent. I don't know 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: this guy. I know him by his horrible reputation, and 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: he really is the bottom scum of journalists. And I 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: know him in the sense that he hates the president. 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: But I don't touch him. He went on my phone, 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: So there we go. 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: That's Mike quotes. Now. An update on the Russian Ukraine 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: ceasefire deal. Russia says some Western sanctions must be lifted 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: before it begins. The maritime sees fly within hours of 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: the US announcing the two sides had agreed to holt 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: strikes in the Black Sea and separate deals. The Kremlin 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: said it would only take place once sanctions on a 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: number of Russian banks were lifted. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: We will need clear guarantees, given the sad experience of 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: agreements with Kiev. Guarantees can only be the result of 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: an order from Washing to President Zelens Speaker and his 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: team to do exactly this. It seems to me that 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: our American partners have taken this signal. 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: And now to South Korea, where at least twenty four 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: people have been killed as multiple wildfires continue to ravage 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: South Korea's Southeast Region authorities say twenty six people are injured, 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: twelve are in critical condition. Most of the victims are 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: in their sixties and seventies. That more than twenty three 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: thousand people have been forced to flee their homes, and 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Acting President Han Dakthu says the unprecedented crisis is rewriting 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: the record books for the worst wildfires in South Korea's history. 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: A total of one hundred and twenty eight helicopters, eleven 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: hundred military personnel, three thousand firefighters, eleven hundred fire fighting crews, 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: and four and a half thousand public officials have been 70 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: mobilized for fire fighting efforts. Helicopters from the US military 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: stations in South Korea have been deployed to provide support. 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 5: Every possible resource is being utilized to contain the wildfires. 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: And finally, Prince Harry says he's in shock after quitting 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: as a patron of Santa Ballei Now Center Bali is 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: the British charity that he helped set up to help 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: young people with HIV and AIDS and Lesoto and Botswana. 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: He set up the charity in the name of his mum, 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: Princess Diana, but he's gone and resigned from the charity. 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: There was a conflict between trustees and the chair of 80 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: the board. It's eleven up to five. 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on a early edition with one roof Make 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: your Property Search Simple, youth dog Zivvy. 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, Oh my god, has any New Zealand sporting 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 2: star had a more tumultuous fortnight on the world stage. 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: He got the drive, He became New Zealand's hero. He 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: charmed the world, He got a GQ cover story. He raced, 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: he crashed, he failed, He raced again, he failed again. 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Social media was brutal. All of Mexico hated him, All 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: of Japan hated him. Australia not keen on him because 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: he caused Ricciardo to be dropped. Old people hated him 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: because of his blonde chippedness. Others hated him just because 92 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: they've loved Ferrari or McLaren or Williams and now Red 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: Bull have allegedly dropped him after just two races for 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: failing to perform in a car that is a dog 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: made for Max, but bad, unreliable and hard to drive. 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: Even Max hates the car and his is way better. 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: But now we wait to see whether Liam Lawson has 98 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: been dropped completely. Will he race in Japan, we don't 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: know that yet, or will he get the chance to 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: show the world he's pretty good by racing in a 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 2: car that's not too bad on of course he knows well. 102 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: So now the pressure ramps up again and the whole 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: world's talking about it, the pressures on Red Bull, on Liam, 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: on Yuki Gee. I hope they're making a killer Drive 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: to Survive episode out of this, because this is epic, 106 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: this is a movie. It would be nice if they 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: paid Liam appropriately for surviving and having to endure all 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: this crap. And will he survive? That's a big question. 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: Is Liam strong enough to survive this global attention and 110 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: a team that seems to have lost its way so far? 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: I think he seems quite well balanced, and I hope 112 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: he sees that this is not the end of the 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: road for hidden and driving cars very fastest to the thing. 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: He does very well. But we're going to talk about 115 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: this later with respected motorsport journalist Bob McMurray. Will join 116 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: me just before six. It's thirteen after five. 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Andrew dickens it's the. 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Great Tauranga Coffee Crisis. That we were all talking about 119 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon. The Teonga Council under Mahi Drysdale, has approved 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: purchasing half a million dollars worth of coffee for staff, 121 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: angering ratepayers who see it as a waste of money. 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: And it is a lot of money, and it is 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: a waste, or is it? I wonder if anyone really 124 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: has done a quantitative study amongst all our employers and 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: all our businesses on the cost of employees waltzing up 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: the door for a coffee and spending time exchanging stories 127 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: about the weekend instead of working. Now, by my back 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: of the envelope, reckon, I reckon, the council has probably 129 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: approved two hundred grand more than they should. This is 130 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: the role's voice of coffee budgets. But the point is 131 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: why I have so many of our workers ritualize a 132 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: coffee experience to the detriment of productivity. What is wrong 133 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: with a trip to the sink and a quick instant. 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: I have an inciant right here, cost nothing, taste terrible. 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: I love it, and I don't want to sound like 136 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: a grinch, but we are in a tight spot with 137 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: public funding, and every little saved is the ability to 138 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: have more productive staff for more services. Isn't coffee is 139 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: in coffee? Don't you think your own personal responsibility? So 140 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: that any free coffee, even if it's instant, is a 141 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: good coffee, particularly when it's brought by your employer. So 142 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: I would say to all and sundry, don't be grateful 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: and do not be wasteful and by the way, get 144 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: back to work. Dickens, is this government neglecting your GP 145 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: in terms of funding. This is a claim that's been 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: made by the World New Zealand College of Gym Practitioners. 147 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to them in just a few moments time. 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: It's news talk z It Big. 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 150 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room. Make your property 151 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: search symbol You talk. 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: Sipy seventeen after five, Good morning to Taylor. Taylor sent 153 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: me a text Andrew. I agree. He sees counselors earn 154 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: a buttload more than most they can afford their own 155 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: dam coffee. Not just the counselors though, remember Taylor, it's 156 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: also all the staff who might not be quite earning 157 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: the buttload. But yeah, isn't coffee your own personal responsibility? 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 4: All right? 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: New research from the Royal New Zealand College of GPS 160 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: has come to the conclusion that primary healthcare is being 161 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: financially neglected. Only five point four percent of this country's 162 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: health budget goes to primary care and that stayed exactly 163 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: the same since two thousand and nine. So I'm joined 164 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 2: now by the President of the Royal College, Semant. The 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Merton doctor set meant that Merton, good morning to you. 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 6: Sam, good morning here are you good? 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: It's the same percentage, but of a bigger pie. So 168 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: can you really say that primary care is being neglected? 169 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: Although it might be of a bigger pie. The problem 170 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 6: we have is that the complexity and volume of work 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 6: that has gone on in primary care has expanded enormously 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 6: over that time. So proportionally it may look like it's 173 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 6: a stage static, but also functionally it's stage static as well, 174 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 6: because there's way more work that we're doing. 175 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so you say it's underfunded. What are the consequences 176 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,119 Speaker 2: we're seeing from that underfunding? 177 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think it's people know we are struggling 178 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 6: to have GPS coming into the service. We're struggling to 179 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 6: keep our books open because we don't have enough staff. 180 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: We're struggling to retain our nursing team because there's better 181 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: options overseas or in hospitals, and so we'd like to 182 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 6: have an expanded service and do as much here in 183 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: the community as you can, but it's hard when you're 184 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 6: trying to I suppose reconfigure some that and you stretch 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: at as as you can, but it doesn't go any 186 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 6: further than what we can currently do. 187 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: Are there other areas of the health sector that are 188 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: benefiting from the underfunding of primary healthcare so they're getting 189 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: a bigger size. 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 6: Well, the thing is it's about where do you invest 191 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 6: so that you make the whole system run more smoothly, 192 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: And so as soon as you reduce what goes into 193 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 6: primary care, then it costs more having people dealt with 194 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: in hospitals. And if you're not seen earlier in their 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: own their own gp and looked after and hit everything 196 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 6: that they need doing, then they may get sicker, faster 197 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: and end up in a hospital setting, which costs a 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 6: whole lot more. So it becomes a vicious cycle of 199 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 6: people going to hospitals costing lots of money. Then you 200 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 6: can afford to invest in primary care where the most 201 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 6: efficient invest care can be done to prevent people getting 202 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 6: into hospitals. 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: So what do you want? Do you want more money 204 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: or do you want a more equitable redistribution of what 205 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: there is? 206 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: I think when you look globally at other countries, the 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 6: distribution it goes into primary care is around the ten 208 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 6: to fourteen percent, not five. So every country has increased 209 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 6: its budget over time, and that we would like to 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 6: see that the genuine investment in primary care is, you know, 211 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: like not rather than five percent of the total, it's 212 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 6: actually probably around ten percent of the total at least. 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: Doctor Samantha Murton, I thank you so much for your 214 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: time today. It is now five twenty and this is NEWSTALKSB. 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: So Westpac reckons that they have to hold too much money, 216 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: and because they have to hold too much money on 217 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: the behest of the reserve bank, that means they have 218 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: to pass that on to customers. That means when you 219 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: borrow money from the bank, you have to pay too much. 220 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: And they reckon it would be better if the capital 221 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: requirements were reduced. So are they right? Are they wrong? 222 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: We'll talk to someone, Bill Accoub in a few moments time. 223 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Here on NEWSTALKSB, where it's now five to twenty. 224 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens 225 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: and one Room Make your Property Search Simple news talg. 226 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: Z B five twenty two. Already I'm Andrew dickins Z 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: for Ryan Bridge. So Westpac calling for the Reserve Bank 228 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: to relax capital requirements. Now, the move would make it 229 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: easier for banks to give out loans. That's what Westpac thinks, 230 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: and we'll put New Zealand on par with countries like 231 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: the UK and Australia. And Chamom bier Lekub is the 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: chief economist at Simplicity and joins me. Now, Hello Chamaville, 233 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: good morning. So the bank reckons that reducing the capital 234 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: of the bank must hold will reduce the costs of 235 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: a four million dollar farm loan by twenty grand? Are 236 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: they right? 237 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a bit of right margin. So every time 238 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 7: the capital recommend grows up, banks to have to borrow 239 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 7: money more expensively, and so it kind of increases mortgage 240 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: rates by a butt zero point one percent to point 241 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 7: one five percent. It's not a huge amount, but it matters. 242 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: Yes, nobody sneezes at twenty grand. So if if west 243 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: Pac got its way and there was a reduction of capital. 244 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Would that make banks more vulnerable at these uncertain times? 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: Because that's why it was put in in the first place. 246 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I think that's really the big trade of here 247 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 7: is do we think our banks are unsafe? I think 248 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 7: the other way of looking at it is our bank's 249 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 7: not making enough money during the good and bad times. 250 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 7: I think the answer is they're making great money in 251 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 7: great times and in bad times. We just had a 252 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 7: terrible recession and they're still made billions of dollars in profits. 253 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: So would it help the economy recover faster? 254 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 7: I don't think so. I don't think the bank capital 255 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 7: is the reason why our banks are not lending enough money. 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 7: There are two things going on. One that our mortgage 257 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 7: rates are far too expensive. So on average, banks are 258 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 7: charging over two percent over their cost of borrowing, so 259 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 7: their mortgage rates are really high. So, for example, the 260 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 7: cheapest mortgage rate we can get right now, it's five 261 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 7: percent for two years. That's pretty high. You know, our 262 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 7: kind of floating rate at the moment is four point 263 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 7: ninety five percent, And so we are charging a lot 264 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: less at simplicity for our floating mortgages. But our banks 265 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 7: are still charging pretty big margins that's the first big issue, 266 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 7: and the second is our banks are simply not lending 267 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 7: much money to businesses and farms that long term prosperity 268 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 7: New Zealand. And that's part to our regulations which helped 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 7: batt lend more money to mortgages rather than to businesses 270 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 7: and France. 271 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: So Mabel, I thank you for your time today, Samabelele Coop. 272 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. The other big thing other than the 273 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: tyrung of coffee and boy you're texting about that that 274 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: we talked about yesterday was Tamotha Paul. Tamotha Tamotha with 275 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: an m Tamotha Paul. I'm going to talk about Tamotha 276 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: Paul in a few moments time. It is now five 277 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: to twenty five the. 278 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio how It 279 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: by News Talks It Be. 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: New Talks it B five twenty seven. Tamotha Paul a 281 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: woman yesterday mocked for her views on police. Chris Hopkins 282 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: said her views on beat police were unwise and then 283 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: he went further and said they were stupid. The Prime 284 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Minister said she's in La La Land. Yesterday when I 285 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: was talking about the the views, I commented that life 286 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: must be really sweet on her planet. Pity it's not ours. 287 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: But that didn't stop her doubling down yesterday on her 288 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: views because they are not untrue in her world. She 289 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: pointed out the brown people have quite a different perception 290 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: of police than others. Look up profiling and its meaning. 291 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: It happens here, we know this. She pointed out the 292 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: terrible failure of the police in the case of the 293 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: eleven year old confused with a twenty year old that 294 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: we all got shocked at. This week, she highlighted the 295 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: hassle of the homeless by the police and the reasons 296 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: she didn't back down because, as she said, they are 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: legitimate experiences amongst her constituents. And remember she's Agreen, but 298 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: she has constituents. She's not a list MP. She won's 299 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: Wellington Central Fair and Square. She's talked to people who 300 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: have these problems. However, the complaints of one are not 301 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: the complaints of one hundred. The vast overwhelming majority of 302 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: New Zealanders feel better with more cops on the beat. 303 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: So she is wrong, and she was wrong to take 304 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: the experience of a few and then expanded into a 305 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: broad statement of let's defund the police. However, I'm going 306 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: to defend her right to point out the flaws as 307 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: she sees it, because that is the true meaning of 308 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: free speech. Andrew dickens oh Okay Tetong and their half 309 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: million dollar coffee bill. Someone asks are they going to 310 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: buy vapes for the staff as well? Because where I work, 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: people take extra bakes all the time to vape. Andy writes, 312 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: I've worked my entire life with fifteen minutes smokos and 313 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: thirty minute lunch breaks, which is my time to use 314 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: as I see fit. Is on demand coffee a thing 315 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: now requiring an organization to provide anything other than instant 316 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: coffee during the entire work date, That's the question I 317 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: would have thought not. And Neil writes, good morning, Andrew. 318 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: The lazy council staff should take a flask from home 319 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: or take a hike. All right, there's new harsher sentencing 320 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: laws that are out. I'll talk about this a little 321 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: bit more later on, but we need them because my 322 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: family was a victim of crime yesterday, Big crime, shock 323 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: and crime, brazen crime as well. Tell you that story 324 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: right after the news, which is next here on You 325 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: still tip. 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 8: Anyway you. 327 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 328 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple, 329 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: Youth Talk, sid B. 330 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 9: Stub By making me so sad, Baby change bad. 331 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: Welcome by you. It's Thursday up and heavn keep going 332 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: stuff to do. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Yon Bridge. Got 333 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: a couple more weeks to go on the show. Then 334 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: header's back and winds back anyway. The Sentencing Reform Amendment 335 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: Bill passed third reading in Parliament yesterday afternoon. So this 336 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: CAP's the discount that judges can apply to sentencing at 337 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: forty that's one new measure. Repeat discounts for showing remorse 338 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: will also be prevented. And all of this is in 339 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: response to you, the people who have complained that the 340 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: legal system has been handing out wet tickets for sentences 341 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: and criminals are not bearing the full consequences of their actions. 342 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was telling yes so that Labor reserved 343 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: judgment on the law, which suggests they also realize this 344 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: is a popular move. They would not commit to repeal, 345 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: but let's see what happens. Are they ever getting near 346 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: the Treasury benches ever? 347 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 7: Again? 348 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: Now, the real rub about all of this is where 349 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: the corrections hans, the budget and the facilities to deal 350 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: with a larger incarcerated population. And I guess we'll find 351 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: that out in April, won't we. But if the government 352 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: is prepared to put our money where their mouth is, 353 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: then it will see the signal and the signals, rules 354 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: of rules and consequences at consequences and think twice before 355 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: profiting from crime and its misery. And speaking of which, 356 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: I had a crime in the family yesterday. My partner 357 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: had her e scooter stolen. She was at a big 358 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: legal meeting. She's a lawyer, She's a big legal meeting. 359 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: She scooted down and was outside of downtown hotel. The 360 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: scooter was locked up with a titanium lock in a 361 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: bike rack. It was outside the hotel's doors. There were 362 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: porters and concierges there continuously. It was in a high 363 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: traffic zone. People are going past all the time. But 364 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: that did not stop a rat bag donning a high 365 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 2: viz vest, grabbing his axle grinder and then sawing her 366 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: scooter loose and taking off with it. Obviously, she's shocked 367 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: and angry, not just at the theft, but the fact 368 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: that so many passerbys stood back and let it happen, 369 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: and we assumed they assumed it was some sort of 370 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: council worker or something removing an abandoned scooter. And it's 371 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: a warning because despite more cops on the beat, despite 372 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: more private security patrolling the area, despite the harshest sentences 373 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: I just talked about, New Zealand, criminals are doing it. 374 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand criminals are more efficient and are more clever 375 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: and more brazen than ever. And the fight against crime 376 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: is obviously never ending. And hey, we all have a 377 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: part to plan it. Dicas twenty one to six. Let's 378 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: go around the country. Callenproctor Joints us from Otarget. Hello morning, Andrew. 379 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: So we've got wastewater going into the Shotover So what's 380 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: the reaction to Queens Sound's plans. Well, it hasn't been good. 381 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 10: The Central Otago District Councils are concerned about these plans 382 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 10: to discharge treated wastewater into the Shotover River. Look, the 383 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 10: Queenstown Lakes District Councils made this announcement saying they're using 384 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 10: emergency powers to send twelve thousand cubic meters of wastewater 385 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 10: into the river daily. They say it will have no 386 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 10: impact on river users as it's the equivalent of just 387 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 10: two percent of the river's flow. The central Otago Miya 388 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 10: tama Ali says the discharge quality should be regularly monitored 389 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 10: and she says it would get everyone comfort that the 390 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 10: treated wastewater poses no risk. 391 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: This is what happens when you boom without the infrastructure. 392 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: How's your weather got rain? This morning? 393 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 10: Should clear this afternoon, southerly's developing and fifteen the High. 394 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood joins us from Grastias talacleaar. 395 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: Good morning. 396 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: So there's a new study done by Canterbury University into 397 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: sports science. 398 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 11: Yes, and this is an area that's overlooked when it 399 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 11: comes to sports science research. So the Canterbury Uni team 400 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 11: are looking into how hormones can affect elite female athletes performance. 401 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 11: They're measuring things like physiological metrics with the saliva samples 402 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 11: of Mata two rugby players. So the research is aiming 403 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 11: to better understand how the menstrual cycle and things like 404 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 11: contraceptives will affect training, recovery and overall well being. The 405 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 11: study lead, Rebecca at Well, says female athletes have been 406 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 11: trained like small men for so long, so hopes this 407 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 11: research might bring some answers, particularly for women. She says 408 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 11: the study will help to explain what could be happening 409 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 11: inside athletes bodies so they know it's not all in 410 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 11: their head. 411 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 7: Yes. 412 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: How's your weather in christ Church? 413 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 11: Cloudy today, A bit of rain expected from mid afternoons 414 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 11: south of east, developing two and the highest twenty one. 415 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington. HELLI, Max, good morning. 416 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: So after the Miramah night of horror, what's happened next? 417 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, So, just to give a background to those who 418 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 12: aren't familiar with this. Last week, early one morning, a 419 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 12: man broke into a home, was discovered by the occupants. 420 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 12: There was a scuffle and the man fled. A short 421 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 12: time later, about twenty minutes with police trying to track 422 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 12: this guy down, sixty three year old Abdul Nabi Zada 423 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 12: was returning from a night shift, parked up and was 424 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 12: found critically injured by his car. He would die in 425 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 12: hospital the next day. This is a nice part of 426 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 12: the peninsula, Mirramah, as you say, not too far from 427 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 12: Park Road productions, Double Vision Brewery. Community meetings been planned. 428 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 12: Police last night announced that they had arrested a twenty 429 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 12: eight year old man who will appear in court today 430 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 12: charged with aggravated burglary and aggravated injury. Police can't say 431 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 12: yet definitively whether the two are linked, but you've got 432 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 12: Nabi Zada's family cursing their luck that this father and 433 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 12: husband just seemed to be in the wrong place at 434 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 12: the wrong time as this intruder was making his getaway. 435 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: More answers to come, good health, how's you were that? 436 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 12: Mostly fine today? Northerly's twenty the High Central. 437 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: Neva Rittamano joins me from Walkanhella and even good morning. 438 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: What's happening with a second South Auckland hospital. 439 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 9: Yes, well, Health Minister same and Brown now he attended 440 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 9: the Hero's Project Aucland luncheon that had happened yesterday and 441 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 9: he's revealed it's something that the government's exploring. So he 442 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 9: says they're going to start detailed planning with Health New 443 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 9: Zealand and take steps to secure land. This is four 444 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 9: potentially a seek in South Auckland Hospital, public health doctors. 445 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 9: So Colin took you Thongas's Middle More Hospitals bursting it 446 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 9: the seams with patients and look, the population is growing, 447 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 9: it's aging. And he says, look, this looks to be 448 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 9: sensible and a welcome development that would better meet the 449 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 9: needs of people there in South Auckland. 450 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: And how's Orkin's weather? 451 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 9: Aucan's weather fine apart from some evening cloud twenty three 452 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 9: is a high. But Andrew, I've just got to make 453 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 9: a quick comment about I'm outraged for your wife because 454 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 9: about listening to your story or whose story about the 455 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 9: theft of the scooter E scooter. 456 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's done right. The security is there, people are there, 457 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: but this guy high vers just goes and people just 458 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: go oh yeah. 459 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 9: And I agree with you, they're becoming more brazen. But 460 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 9: how many Is this her third or fourth scooter? 461 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 12: About that? 462 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 9: Yes, she's had three or four stolen. Is she going 463 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 9: to get another one? 464 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: Well? 465 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's good on her, he's good. 466 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 7: Well. 467 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Look, I've had a text that says, I cannot believe 468 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: you are hooked up with someone who uses an e scooter, 469 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: And can I just say, Helen takes a fairy as 470 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: she has the scooter on the ferry. She's scooters all 471 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: around town on the ferry on the scooter. Yes, and 472 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: we have saved a fortune and we got rid of 473 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: a second car. Go Helen tell it. 474 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 5: Keep the faith. 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: I think she's getting another maybe for Christmas. Is sixteen 476 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: to six, all right, Mitch McCann from the United States 477 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: in a few moments time, as the group chat saga continues, 478 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: and also what Russia wants if you need a ceasefire? 479 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: It's next here on news Talk zreb Oh and Boy 480 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: McMurray on Liam Lawson. 481 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 482 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 483 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: That is third thing to sex. Goodbody to you, So 484 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 2: we're off to America and mtch McCann, goodbody to you. Andrew, 485 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: good morning, How are you good? So this group chat 486 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: thing goes on, I think well, I watched the late 487 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: night shows last night, and what everyone was amazed at 488 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: is how the administration is doubling down that this did 489 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: not happen, that this is a line that Jeffrey Goldberg 490 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: is a discredited journalist. Do we have enough out there 491 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: yet to say this really did happen. 492 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 13: Well, there has been a change this morning. Well, well, 493 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 13: the government firstly has acknowledged this is a real chat 494 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 13: that happened over Signal. But the question the administration has, 495 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 13: while it calls this a hoax, says that they don't 496 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 13: know how Jeffrey Goldberg got into the chat, and he 497 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 13: does something that allowed himself into the chat. Really kind 498 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 13: of hard to believe sort of stuff. And for people 499 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 13: that are just starting to follow this, this is the 500 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 13: story where a prominent US journalist from the Atlantic was 501 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 13: accidentally added to a group on this messaging app called 502 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 13: Signal alongside some of Donald Trump's closest top cabinet officials. Now, 503 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 13: they weren't discussing what they were going to have for dinner. 504 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 13: They were discussing bombing Yemen, and the journalist were sitting 505 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 13: there watching this whole thing unfold. The latest development Andrew 506 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 13: this morning is that Jeffrey Goldberg has decided, because Donald 507 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 13: Trump says it wasn't classified, to release the entire chat. Initially, 508 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 13: he hadn't done that because he said some of the 509 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 13: information might be classified, he shouldn't be doing it. But 510 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 13: he has decided this morning to do that. And the 511 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 13: Democrats say the contents of these messages that he's released 512 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 13: today proved that it was classified information, and they're now 513 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 13: calling on Pete Higsseth the Secretary of Defense to resign. 514 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, well that won't happen, Pete seems very bold. Now 515 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: let's get to some real big stuff. Russia, Ukraine. Russia's 516 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: made some demands before they're going to start any ceasefire 517 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: in the Black Sea. Yeah, that's right. 518 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 13: Both Russia and Ukraine have said that they're committed to 519 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 13: a ceasefire in the Blank Sea, but it remains unclear 520 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 13: if this is actually going to happen and how it 521 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 13: could work in practice. This is because the Kremlin has said, yes, 522 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 13: well we'll go along with the seasfire, but we have 523 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 13: some things that we want before this actually happens. It 524 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 13: says it's not going to agree to the ceasefire on 525 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 13: the water unless it's agricultural bank, It's State Agriculture Bank 526 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 13: and other banks involved in sort of trade and fertilizers 527 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 13: and things are reconnected to the international payment system known 528 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 13: as SWIFT, and there are a few other sanctions that 529 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 13: it wants pulled back as well before it's going to 530 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 13: agree to this. Now, Ukraine says this is madness because 531 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 13: you just be giving Russia what it wants. But the 532 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 13: Trump administration is going to consider this and they're going 533 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 13: to come up with an answer in the next couple 534 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 13: of days. But it is movement, but Russia here it 535 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 13: seems really dictating the terms of how it's going to 536 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 13: move on this. 537 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: Mitch, thank you so much. It is now ten minutes 538 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: to six. 539 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens. 540 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: People have texted about Liam Lawson saying why are you guys? 541 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: This is just because he's a Kiwi that you guys 542 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: are so obsessed about it. This is a massive global story. 543 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: You would not believe the number of people who are 544 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: commenting on this, whether it's social media or generally because 545 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: F one is a huge sport and it just so 546 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: happens that the Kiwi is at the center of it. 547 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: So we've got reports that Liam Lawson will be cut 548 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: from Red Bull's top team. There's been no official announcement 549 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: I've checked so far. I'll check in a moment with Bob, 550 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: but the Dutch newspaper did. Telegraph reported yesterday that poor 551 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: old Lillam's being dropped by Red Bull will be replaced 552 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: by Yuki Sonoda in Japan. His time in F one 553 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: isn't expected to be completely finished. He could return to 554 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: the Racing Bulls feeder team, which he drove for last 555 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: season and that's a not too bad cut. So motorsport 556 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: expert Bob McMurray joins me. Now, hello, Bob, good morning, Andrews. 557 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Have you had any more intel on this? Does this 558 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: really happen? Because I've I don't think I've actually seen 559 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: an official confirmation. 560 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 7: No. 561 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 14: Since I got up earlier this morning, I looked at 562 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 14: every single Red Bill outlet and there is nothing confirmed, 563 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 14: no story saying this is going to happen or not 564 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 14: going to happen at all. And apparently the only thing 565 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 14: I've seen is that discussions are ongoing. So I don't know, 566 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 14: but yeah, it doesn't look good with informed sources, especially 567 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 14: the Dutch, saying that it's going to happen, it's got 568 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 14: to believe that it may well do. 569 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: Yes, this is a team that is associated with the 570 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: Dutch and they often do leaks through Dutch media. Of 571 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: course the whole world speculating. Here is this piece of 572 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: speculation for you, And do you think that Red Bull 573 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: actually suffered a Honda power play Because it's the Japanese 574 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: Grand Prix, They're wanted the Japanese driver there, and of 575 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: course they have a lot of money, and so they said, well, 576 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: you know, let's try this out, and Red Bull's calling 577 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: their bluff. 578 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 14: Well, I think if Liam Lawson had been scoring points 579 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 14: and he'd been doing very well, this would never have 580 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 14: come up at all. But the meter of fact they've 581 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 14: been thinking about it. Perhaps Red Bull, the Honda people 582 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 14: backing Sonoda have got wind of it and said, okay, 583 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 14: if you can put him in the car, will give 584 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 14: you an extra ten or fifteen million or whatever it 585 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 14: is to do that. So but the underlying problem, of 586 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 14: course is that Lim has not, in their eyes, performed 587 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 14: well enough to stay in the team, which is very 588 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 14: short sighted. He's being made escapegoat, in my opinion, for 589 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 14: the failings of the team themselves and the way they 590 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 14: organized their young driver's program and the way they have 591 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 14: not given him any time in the seat. And it's 592 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 14: a fairly brutal decision from against him. 593 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: Iperio has had ninety races, ninety, Ricciardo had what was 594 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: it eighteen or something. Everyone's had a greater chance, Gazzi 595 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: had a greater chance, but Liam just too. And there 596 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: we go. But there we go, and that is the 597 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: caliber of the Rebel team at the moment. Why doesn't 598 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: Christin Horner fall on his sword because he's obviously made 599 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: two crappy cars. 600 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 14: Yep, well you could say that as AIG car. Actually, yes, 601 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 14: you did. The crappy car actually suits Max with Stappan, 602 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 14: So it's not that crappy in Max with Staffin's hands. 603 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 14: It's just that it's a very very difficult car for 604 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 14: any other driver to drive, and Liam cannot drive in 605 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 14: the same manner that Max for Stappan does to make 606 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 14: that car work, and that's the issue at point. The 607 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 14: car is I wouldn't say designed around Max for Staffhen, 608 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 14: but it very closely is, because clearly he's the one 609 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 14: that is the points and everything else. So we're going 610 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 14: to do what he wants to do with the car. 611 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 14: So Liam sort of has to try and adapt, and 612 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 14: unfortunately he can't adapt to a car with a loose 613 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 14: rear end. Is the fray that happens? 614 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing. Okay, we'll wait to see what, if anything 615 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: concrete is going to happen from all of this, But 616 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: here's the thing. This is not the end of Liam 617 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. He can still drive 618 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 2: a car very fast. Apparently Audi and Williams have been 619 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: sniffing around and wouldn't it be hilarious if he got 620 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: into a racing bullcar and beat Yuki? And seven to 621 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: six News. 622 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: And Views You trust to start your day is the 623 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your 624 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: Property search Simple. You've talked zimby. 625 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: So on the Shotover wastewater spill that's causing all the 626 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: jubati in Queenstown, Alan Wrights, why doesn't Queenstown put nets 627 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: over the ponds to keep the ducks out and pump 628 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: the water in land? Because remember this all started because 629 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: ducks are landing on the ponds and flying in the 630 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: way of the planes. And that's a fair enough point, Alan, 631 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: But also you might want to ask the council, when 632 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: they're consenting so much urban sprawl, why didn't they make 633 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: sure that their infrastructure could cope? My Costking, Good morning. 634 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 15: You do realize that Liam has beaten Yuki before? Oh yeah, 635 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 15: and he will be beat Perez as well from a 636 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 15: racing ball when Perez was in a red bull. 637 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: Didn't Liam beat Yuki in New Zealand and the Toyota 638 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: Racing Series? Yes, I think he did. I think he did. 639 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: But anyway, very sad. I'm sure, Oh, Bob is. 640 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 15: Just throw the way McLaren's going given his I mean, 641 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 15: you know you look what Za's done to So it's 642 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 15: very very sad business, isn't it. 643 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: I mean, well, it's also like you gues, some people 644 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: text to go, oh, you're going on about this just 645 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: because he's a keyweat it's a cube, it's a global story. 646 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 15: It's the coffee, it's the water cooler talk. You don't 647 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 15: get sacked after two races. In fact, I've been able 648 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 15: to work out I don't think a single driver has 649 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 15: ever been sacked after two races EBB in the history 650 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 15: of F one. 651 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: You know who? I thought of Brendan Hartley very much, 652 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: so who and Ghazy was involved in all that thing 653 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: as well, and all these key is getting dumped. 654 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 15: On, Well, well, Hartley went in under difficult circumstances, and 655 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 15: I suppose Liam went in under difficult circumstances. And the 656 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 15: most Abridgos part is that it's true Hondas offered another 657 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 15: ten million. They've offered that before they pay tend to 658 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 15: have Sonoda there. They've offered another team to get him 659 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 15: in this weekend, So that becomes the really dodgy part. 660 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 15: Of the IF one where it's not about by the. 661 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: Way, Bob Gelder after oh now there, now we're talking. 662 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: My thanks to producer Kensey. I'm Andrew. I can see 663 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: you tomorrow. 664 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 7: As long as we go Today. 665 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 666 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am, or follow 667 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.