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Speaker 1: breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue

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Speaker 2: B ming and welcome today the back when crackdown from

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Speaker 2: housing New Zealand. Another fluoride scrap is the gold price

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Speaker 2: lined up from up shore as well, pasking We're into

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Speaker 2: it for Wednesday morning, seven past six. Now for a

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Speaker 2: sport that's hardly sizzling in a sports world, that is

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Speaker 2: the pain for New Zealand. Rugby has clearly got a

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Speaker 2: whole lot worse than the last twenty four hours. Inios

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Speaker 2: had a six year deal worth apparently forty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's about eight million bucks a year. They've walked three

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Speaker 2: years early and as a result of being sued by

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Speaker 2: the NZA. I don't blame them, Sir. Jim Radcliffe, interesting bloke.

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Speaker 2: He's involved if you don't know an English football through

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Speaker 2: I quite like his cars. I mean he wanted to

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Speaker 2: keep making the old land drove a Defender. When they

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Speaker 2: I suppose you did ask whether Ratcliffe is even aware

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Speaker 2: Has nz Are in Aenios's eyes, done something wrong? Have

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Speaker 2: because nothing tangible comes out of it. Is it simply

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Speaker 2: petrochemical company that brings in fifty five billion dollars a year. Recklifts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he looks shabby at this point of the union. Cases correct,

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Speaker 2: and he's simply walked away from this, but a doubt

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Speaker 3: Views of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Rom Trump World four Things for You One his terrific

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Speaker 2: executive order yesterday has a response from Britain.

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Speaker 4: We saw if you like retaliatory measures being taken under

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Speaker 2: His idea that the war needs to win, hence the

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Speaker 5: I'm saying Russia must not win this war, which means

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Speaker 2: Three is my JD is in Paris. All over the AI.

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Speaker 6: We refuse to view AI as a purely disruptive technology

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Speaker 6: We will fight for policies that ensure that AI is

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Speaker 8: We now have no mechanism to read the metal. Officers

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Speaker 2: And if you missed it. In sport, Warren Gatlin has

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Speaker 9: And when that happens, then you've got to look for

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Speaker 2: I finally update on that asteroid that might be probably

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you place that betters in usual. The world

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Speaker 2: From our Democracy watch our good friends in Vanova who

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Speaker 2: have got themselves a new prime minister, Jotham Nappett is

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Speaker 2: Andrew callorhead good morning to you. Yeah, money, Mike Volkan,

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Speaker 10: The moment, Hey, just quickly anyos Mike. They've said overnight

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Speaker 10: Let's talk about steel. So we're working our way through

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Speaker 10: And they're doing a pretty tough Mike. The revenue down

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Speaker 10: thirty percent, Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, amortization, all that

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Speaker 10: They do make the comment that lower interest rates here

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Speaker 10: my comments remain completely consistent here, Mike. This is the

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Speaker 10: activity right here and now is still not reflecting that

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Speaker 2: tender that went gangbusters really isn't there's money out?

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Speaker 2: And speaking of good results, come on ten dollars.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good news Wednesday by good news ways well, not

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Speaker 10: for the Rover Union, but another upgrade to the forecast

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Speaker 10: tweenty twenty five two and a half percent GDP growth.

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Speaker 10: They do talk about the storm clouds and the picture

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Speaker 10: that refer to the trade will coming out of Trump

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Speaker 10: policy and gender uncertain how they will play out.

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Speaker 2: Not good news for New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: In that economic overview, there are another one of the

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Speaker 10: banks still putting seven percent growth in house prices in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm still doubtful about that.

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Speaker 11: I'm not on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have a bet. You give me a number.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a bet. What you I got fifty dollars

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Speaker 2: for a lunch out? Actually you need tight hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: these days. Anyway, whatever it is for a long percent,

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Speaker 11: The numbers? OHVI should we do the numbers?

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Speaker 2: some good news in your report. Fewer Mari kids are

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm trying to get to. So your

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Speaker 2: Business Stateside, Richard Land, morning to you, Good morning. Make

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Speaker 2: so King of Jordan, are they all getting along well?

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Nice to be a fly on the wall, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't expect. So President Trump is having talks right now,

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Speaker 14: as you say, with Jordan's King of Dullap.

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Speaker 11: He called him a great man.

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Speaker 14: The two slapped each other on the back and walked

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Speaker 14: into the White House a short time ago, as the

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Speaker 14: Garzat truce is looking pretty fragile and Trump is upping

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Speaker 14: the ante on his idea of turning the wartorn wasteland

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Speaker 14: into that hotel and casino riviera.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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Speaker 14: He didn't lay this out initially, but now Trump is

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Speaker 14: saying Palestinians would not not be allowed back after his

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Speaker 14: proposed dream real estate development.

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Speaker 3: When the palace and no money's turned.

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Speaker 7: No, they wouldn't because they're going to have much better

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Speaker 7: houses in my.

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Speaker 14: House somewhere in the desert and the battles of decades

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Speaker 14: and centuries are resolved.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 14: Trump wants the almost two million thousands to be taken

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Speaker 14: in by Jordan and Egypt, which is a no go

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Speaker 14: for both countries. Jordan's royal family has ruled for more

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Speaker 14: than a century, would lose power if their country is

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Speaker 14: forcibly turned into a Palestinian homeland. Trump was asked how

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Speaker 14: far he might press this.

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Speaker 16: Would you withhold aid to these countries if they don't

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Speaker 16: agree to take in the Palaeston ends.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, maybe sure.

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Speaker 14: Quote Well, Jordan's king might have a few ideas on that. Meantime,

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Speaker 14: the Gaza truce is at risk, with a mass claiming

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Speaker 14: that Israel has not provided the hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 14: tents that were promised as part of the ceasefire agreement.

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Speaker 14: Once again, Trump has jumped in saying all hell will

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Speaker 14: break loose unless the block is settled by high noon

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Speaker 14: this weekend.

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Speaker 7: If all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at twelve,

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Speaker 7: I think it's an appropriate time.

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Speaker 2: I would say.

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Speaker 3: Cancel it and all bets are off and let hell

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Speaker 3: break out.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you refuse to say what any of that meant.

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Speaker 14: The immediate issue is likely to be sorted out. However,

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Speaker 14: more significant is the CeaseFire's long term fate. The deal

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Speaker 14: is said to elapse after phase one and less Israel

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Speaker 14: must negotiate an extension. Trump's pronouncements are adding to the

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Speaker 14: sense of chaos about those pending negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Need all that was happening in the oval officers, he

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Speaker 2: was busy signing these steel and aluminium tariffs, of course.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and you know inflation was the biggest concern in

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Speaker 14: the last election, right, But if it is made of metal,

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Speaker 14: it could soon become significantly more expensive to buy such

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Speaker 14: a product. Here, Trump has moved ahead, has he been

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Speaker 14: saying with his imposition of tariffs on imported steel and aluminium.

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Speaker 14: There was still some wiggle room here. But Trump was asked, you're.

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Speaker 3: Not worried that any of that's going to go back

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Speaker 3: to the consumer.

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Speaker 7: It might, but it's ultimately going to be much less expensive.

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Speaker 14: Really, many would be buyers of cars and construction equipment

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Speaker 14: and appliance is not so sure. How long before US

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Speaker 14: still producers are up and running at levels which matched

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Speaker 14: the imports years never. You know, with cars, some use

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Speaker 14: rare allies in part which are brought in internationally. Tesla

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Speaker 14: sorted exemption to tariffs on such material, So what do

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Speaker 14: you reckon? Elon? And Trump also was accused of Strader

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Speaker 14: of slightly increasing its aluminium export. As you say, Alberizi

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Speaker 14: had that phone chat with Trump and the two sides

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Speaker 14: agreed that they would express that there had been consideration

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Speaker 14: of an exemption, and then Trump came out with that

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Speaker 14: flat statement saying, yeah, it's twenty five percent no exemption,

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Speaker 14: So we'll see how all of that plays. Meantime, Trump

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Speaker 14: was saying this as well, we will.

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Speaker 7: Be looking at chips, so we will be looking at cars,

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Speaker 7: and we're going to be looking at pharmaceuticals.

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Speaker 14: So how quickly would any of this lead to lower

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Speaker 14: prices for inmbattled consumer?

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Speaker 2: Exactly see Friday Richard Arnold state, so we've got something

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Speaker 2: from the King of Jordan there in front of the

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Speaker 2: fireplace right now.

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Speaker 16: Our collective responsibility in the Middle East to continue to

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Speaker 16: work with you to support you to achieve those loft

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Speaker 16: to goals.

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Speaker 11: So I'm very delighted to be here. And as you said, sir,

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Speaker 11: we've got some very interesting discussions out Now.

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Speaker 2: There we go, so the just right in front of

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Speaker 2: the fire and the yellow chairs and they'll go off

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Speaker 2: and have a chat. People seem to like them at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Trump CBS poll another one out yesterday, ceb

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Speaker 2: as you gov started a second term with more support

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Speaker 2: than he had when he took office in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Fifty three percent approval. It's a good number. They see

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Speaker 2: him as effective, focus, tough, confident, energetic seventy percent. So

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Speaker 2: they believe he's doing what he promised to do. I

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Speaker 2: mean really on that you can't argue. I mean, whether

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Speaker 2: you like him or not, he's doing what he said

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Speaker 2: he'd do. Fifty one percent said the policies will make

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Speaker 2: food and grocery prices go up, so they get it.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight percent he believe his policies will be lower

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Speaker 2: lowering the prices. They don't get it. Two thirds not

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Speaker 2: focusing enough on lowering prices of goods and services. Seventy

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Speaker 2: three percent think the tariffs generally will make things more expensive.

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Speaker 2: For them, yet I still like them seed to save them.

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Speaker 1: The mic husking breakfast with the range rover of the

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Speaker 1: Law News talks dead bea so he.

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Speaker 2: I think the good Lord. He's explaining this because if

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Speaker 2: you're into real estate, you'll be interested in this particular opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Here's how the Riviera of Gaza is gonna work.

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Speaker 3: It's not a complex thing to do.

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Speaker 7: And with the United States being in control of that

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Speaker 7: piece of land, a fairly large piece of land, you're

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Speaker 7: gonna have stability in the Middle East for the first time.

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Speaker 7: And the Palestinians or the people that live now in

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Speaker 7: Gaza will be living beautifully in another location. They're going

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Speaker 7: to be living safely. They're not going to be killed,

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Speaker 7: murdered and having to leave every ten years. Because I've

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Speaker 7: been watching this for so many years, it's it's nothing

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Speaker 7: but trouble. Everyone's being killed, they're being robbed, it's like

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Speaker 7: living in hell. And they're gonna end up having a

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Speaker 7: great home, great families that don't have to get mugged

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Speaker 7: and killed and beaten up and harassed by Hamas and

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Speaker 7: everybody else.

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Speaker 2: See, here's the problem and what the King of Jordan

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Speaker 2: at this point needs to do, and he won't is go, mate,

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Speaker 2: you're a nutter. It's called ethnic cleansing. No one in

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Speaker 2: my part of the world is going to live with it.

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Speaker 2: We're not taking your people. No one's clearing it out.

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Speaker 2: You make a not unreasonable point about the place being

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Speaker 2: hell and a destruction site and something needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: But this isn't it. But he won't say that, So

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Speaker 2: Trump will just Babylon. And the other thing I was

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Speaker 2: watching he was he was in the as I say

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Speaker 2: with Richard, he was in the Oval office yesterday that

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Speaker 2: mid day Saturday thing where all hell's going to break loose.

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Speaker 2: He I swear he made it up on the spot,

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Speaker 2: and he was literally signing with his sharpie the tariff thing,

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Speaker 2: and he goes, I tell you, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: I think by mid midday Saturday. It seems a good

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Speaker 2: time to me, midday Saturday. Unless it happens by midday Saturday,

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Speaker 2: all hell is going to break leat.

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Speaker 17: It's like when he was talking about the steel and

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Speaker 17: aluminum tariffs on the plane and he was confirmed that yes,

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Speaker 17: it was going to be a twenty five percent on

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Speaker 17: the steel, and then he said ten percent on the element.

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Speaker 2: Now five could be more, who knows, But that's how

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Speaker 2: Trump rolls five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well, all they got sucked him, but more on that

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Speaker 2: after seven o'clock, right, super Bowl viewership numbers finally got

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Speaker 2: to the bottom of there's how many people watched Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: It is on a roll Nielsen, Fox in the NFL

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Speaker 2: this morning have all agreed on an average of one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six million people, two percent increase on

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Speaker 2: last year's game, which was one hundred and twenty three

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Speaker 2: point seven million, which was already a record. So it's

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Speaker 2: a record on a record ahead a peak audience of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five point seven that was during

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Speaker 2: the second quarter of the game. That was one because

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Speaker 2: the game was still interesting at that particular point of time,

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Speaker 2: but it drifted away for fairly obvious reasons. They reckon

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Speaker 2: though probably it had something to do around the hype

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Speaker 2: of Kendrick Lamar the halftime show, so they see that

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Speaker 2: as a draw card in and of itself, not that

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Speaker 2: it turned out to be a draw card. A lot

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Speaker 2: of interest in his genes. So the skinny gene is

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Speaker 2: coming back. I don't know if you're up on this,

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Speaker 2: and I'm here to tell you the skinny gene is

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Speaker 2: coming back. You're seeing it on a lot of runways

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Speaker 2: around the world at the moment. But Kendrick came up

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Speaker 2: with some sort of these mom jeans, big cleared gens

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Speaker 2: that went down over a sneakers look rude at anyway.

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Speaker 12: First's good news for.

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Speaker 17: Those of us who had that weren't that skinny, But

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Speaker 17: as we'd aged, they've become a little bit more skinny here.

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Speaker 16: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It's coming back. Streaming was the biggest success for the

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Speaker 2: sport so far. Thirteen point six million people tuned in

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Speaker 2: via the streaming site Toby. Just under one million watched

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Speaker 2: it via the NFL Plus or other NFL platforms. Some

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Speaker 2: of the increase overall attributed to Nielsen changing the way

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Speaker 2: they count views. For the first time, they're measuring out

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Speaker 2: of home viewers. That's you know, your bars and clubs.

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Speaker 2: So yes, there's one television on that the six hundred

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Speaker 2: people watching it. So finally they got around to being

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Speaker 2: able to work out how all of that works, right,

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Speaker 2: Housing new Zealand. Here's the new here's a good idea

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Speaker 2: what they're doing with the rent. If you're up on

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Speaker 2: this as an idea if you're a landlord, what they're

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Speaker 2: doing with the rent is that if you're sort of

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Speaker 2: open rent, they kind of now want you to pay it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how this is going to go after

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Speaker 2: the news, which is next.

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Speaker 3: News, Opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hopting break bed with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News togs Head Bly.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. The rent crackdown is coming from House

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. There's to be a new twelve week

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Speaker 2: max on areas. There's a lot of debt having to

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Speaker 2: be written off unfortunately. Associate Housing Minister Toma potakers with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Thank you got it mate.

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Speaker 2: Any sense of how much of the areas is genuine

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Speaker 2: trouble In other words, something happened to Macama washing machine

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Speaker 2: and I'm now in trouble versus people who simply don't

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Speaker 2: pay rent.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I can't tall you percentages, but there's a lot

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Speaker 16: of it, especially with some of the cost of living

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Speaker 16: challenges we've got as a country.

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Speaker 2: The previous administration is this how we get to write

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Speaker 2: off debt. Did they simply go if you didn't pay

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Speaker 2: your rent, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 16: How I describe it as that it was a little

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Speaker 16: bit loose and didn't do the money. We had one

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Speaker 16: million bills and dead in twenty seventeen it went up

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Speaker 16: to twenty one million in rent debt. It's back down

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Speaker 16: to sixteen and now the current order boards taking some

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Speaker 16: pragmatic decisions to get moving on some of that too.

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Speaker 2: Have they taken some pragmatic decisions under your instruction?

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Speaker 16: Yes, under their government's encouragement, but it's an operational matter.

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Speaker 16: We respect it. But what we want to see is

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Speaker 16: that debt level dropping, and there has been some moves

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Speaker 16: in the last twelve months. It's gone from twenty one

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Speaker 16: to sixteen. But we think that it's important for tenants

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Speaker 16: to do they if they need some total or some support,

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Speaker 16: KO will support them. But if they're not abiding by

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Speaker 16: the rules and kind of order needs to take action.

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Speaker 2: Is the twenty one down to sixteen the low hanging fruit?

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Speaker 2: In other words, it gets a bit harder from here.

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Speaker 16: I think that's a fair description, but there are many,

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Speaker 16: many tenants who have had some challenges they've got more

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Speaker 16: than twelve week scept but they are pain and being

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Speaker 16: very reasonable, and I think it's important for current order

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Speaker 16: to be reasonable as well.

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Speaker 2: The socially awkward question, and you've got a bit of

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Speaker 2: it in the house yesterday with the homeless is where

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Speaker 2: do they go? Wonder what? You boot them out? They

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Speaker 2: don't pay the rent, you boot them out? Where do

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Speaker 2: they go?

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Speaker 16: Well kind of order will work with people to connect

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Speaker 16: with others in the space, in the housing space, whether

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Speaker 16: or not that's worth the likes of the Salvation Army

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Speaker 16: or others. So it's not just breading out and see

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Speaker 16: later it are, but hey, here, we're going to help

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Speaker 16: you get on a bit of the windsil program. If

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Speaker 16: you still can't be love, if you still can't do that,

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Speaker 16: let's connect with others that can help you get into

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Speaker 16: a better space.

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Speaker 2: I asked this question. I don't know if there is

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Speaker 2: an answer. How big is the social housing problem in

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Speaker 2: this country? And by that I mean when does it end?

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Speaker 2: When do you stop building houses? What percentage of the

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Speaker 2: population will forever need some sort of help? And are

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Speaker 2: we outlies in this? In other words, are we a

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Speaker 2: nation of people who just need too much government help.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think we need to make sure that the

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Speaker 16: government's got the housing system, that's building and construction and

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Speaker 16: infrastructure and zoning all in the right place so private

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Speaker 16: developers can come in and actually build houses. I think

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Speaker 16: to your question, we do have less social housing as

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Speaker 16: a percentage of total housings some other countries.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 16: But what we need to make sure is that those

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Speaker 16: who are private developers can actually build houses because they

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Speaker 16: put most selves. If the government takes over that market,

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Speaker 16: it all skews and things go crazy like they did.

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Speaker 16: I suppose answer an answer to your question, Mike, there

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Speaker 16: is a core group of people that we definitely need

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Speaker 16: to provide some support for them, some social housing and others.

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Speaker 16: We need to sort of help transition out of that

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Speaker 16: dependency or that need for social alzing and something better

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Speaker 16: to do that. We also need to ensure we've got

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Speaker 16: jobs and businesses. Humming.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on your press ups. Those press ups. How many

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Speaker 2: of them are the ones where you leave the ground

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Speaker 2: and clap? How many can you do?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, might be might be thirty in a row. But look,

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Speaker 16: I just try to hit certain healthy Michael, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 16: just trying to keep sudden healthy yes, you are just.

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Speaker 2: Trying to keep that you are a machine. Well done.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on If you haven't seen the video, look it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's gone viral as they say. But the

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Speaker 2: guy does press ups while you know, clapping in between.

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Speaker 2: If he can do thirty of those, that is one

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Speaker 2: fed individual. Tima po taker eleven minutes past seven. It

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Speaker 2: right back front and center. So Whinston Peters has decided

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Speaker 2: counsel should hold a referendum on whether this flu ride

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Speaker 2: in a water Now members bill is going to be

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Speaker 2: put in the ballot to that effect, the Health Minister

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Speaker 2: Sime and Brown said, don't worry about it's not going

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Speaker 2: to change. New Zealand Dental Association policy director Robert Wyman

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Speaker 2: Robin Wyman rather as well us Robin morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. It's the weirdest thing. I still don't

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Speaker 2: understand why we battle flu ride the way we do.

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Speaker 2: But funarraise battling at the moment. And there was a

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Speaker 2: meeting in Rotaro yesterday and everyone got angsty about it.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. Should the Health Department

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Speaker 2: have the power to direct or not?

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Speaker 19: Well, we think it's actually a sensible piece of legislation

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Speaker 19: that puts the balance of issues that need to be

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Speaker 19: thought about in the right places. In the end, somebody

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Speaker 19: has to make a decision about this, and the idea

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Speaker 19: that this is a health decision on the health issues

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Speaker 19: that the Director General of Health looks after is a

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Speaker 19: good idea.

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Speaker 16: You have to also.

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Speaker 19: Understand, though that Internet legislation, the Director General has to

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Speaker 19: consult with the councils or the water supplies about the

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Speaker 19: hues that they know about, which is things like whether

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Speaker 19: it's technically possible in how complex and expensive it would

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Speaker 19: be to actually throw it out the supplay that has

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Speaker 19: to all be weighed up. So and now of view,

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Speaker 19: it puts the responsibilities in the right swim lane if

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Speaker 19: you like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But having said that, it's sort of different. I

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Speaker 2: mean what I'm getting from fung array in places like

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Speaker 2: right Orua, it's not about the piping or the cost.

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Speaker 2: It's about that we don't want to and we should

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Speaker 2: decide is that reasonable or not.

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Speaker 19: Well, we went through a whole process when the legislation changed,

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Speaker 19: like lots of other decisions that the country makes through

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Speaker 19: a sect committee process, and there were plenty of submissions

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Speaker 19: made and there was a weighing up of the pros

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Speaker 19: and cons of the information. So I don't think it

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Speaker 19: is fair to say that there's no input from the public.

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Speaker 19: But at some point you have to stop in the

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Speaker 19: room and discussing it and getting on with making it anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm a the right fan happy to say so. But

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Speaker 2: why it is? What is it that's out there that's

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Speaker 2: still controversial that people are going to flood me now

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Speaker 2: with texts going.

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Speaker 19: Well, there are a range of health conditions that are

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Speaker 19: ranged that could potentially be related to fluoride. And I've

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Speaker 19: been doing this for about thirty five years now and

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Speaker 19: they keep changing. But the one that's current, and there's

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Speaker 19: one that's very much known, and that is whether or

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Speaker 19: not you get fluorosis on the teeth, which is white

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Speaker 19: or yellow changes on the teeth that can happen if

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Speaker 19: you actually get the fluorid levels too high, but not

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Speaker 19: at the levels that we floridd in New Zealand. The

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Speaker 19: current debate is around intellectual development and cognitive ability. The

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Speaker 19: evidence on there is shown again that at the levels

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Speaker 19: we fluoridate that in New Zealand and Australia and other

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Speaker 19: countries like ourselves, that is not shown to have an

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Speaker 19: effect if you get the levels too high. There's an

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Speaker 19: unknown debate about that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Robin, appreciate your expertise. Robin Wyman, I've been on

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Speaker 2: Florid my whole life, and look at me. I'm a genius.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes past seven pastkame, here's Trump doubling down.

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Speaker 7: They're sending the most healthy people out because they don't

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Speaker 7: want to send the least healthy people out. And there

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Speaker 7: was an upro when they saw the people from yesterday.

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Speaker 7: So these people are so I don't want to do

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Speaker 7: two and then we do another two in another week,

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Speaker 7: and then we do four.

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Speaker 2: And three weeks.

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Speaker 7: Now, now they either have them out by Saturday at

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Speaker 7: twelve o'clock or all bets are off.

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Speaker 2: Benjamin's rought onto this. I'll come to that in just

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Speaker 2: a moment. Somebody, you know, well, they wanted to know this.

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Speaker 3: He said before that the US would buy Gaza, and

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Speaker 3: today you just said, we're not going to buy.

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Speaker 7: God, we're not gonna have to buy We're gonna we're

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Speaker 7: going to have guys that we don't have to buy it.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing to bude.

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Speaker 7: We will have Gaza.

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Speaker 20: What is that?

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Speaker 7: No reason to buy? There is nothing to buy. It's gaza.

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Speaker 7: It says, it's a war torn area. We're gonna take it,

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Speaker 7: We're gonna hold it, we're gonna cherish it, and you're

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Speaker 7: gonna have peace.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna bring peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: So, as a real estate mogul out of New York,

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Speaker 2: he's now telling us Land is free. So the land

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Speaker 2: what it is?

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Speaker 14: Away?

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Speaker 2: I didn't you who's had a four hour discussion. He's

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Speaker 2: expressed outrage at the shocking situation of the three hostages

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Speaker 2: as well he might He's welcomed Trump's demand for the

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Speaker 2: deadline Saturday noon. As a result of that, the IDEF

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Speaker 2: for massing now on the border of Garsa. This is

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Speaker 2: all falling apart. You could see where this was going.

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Speaker 2: It was never going to hold. If Harmas does not

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Speaker 2: return our hostages by Saturday noon, the seasfire will end,

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Speaker 2: the IDF will return to intense fighting. Fifteen past.

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Speaker 1: The high asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: By News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b are there's any dus thing with New Zealand

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Speaker 2: rug before you shortly meantime, seventeen past seven, stand by

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Speaker 2: Mine Mine, The gold Rush, the Old gold Rush, could

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Speaker 2: be on the West Coast. Prices continuing to rise. It's

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Speaker 2: over fivey one hundred ounce this morning. Local councils expecting

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Speaker 2: to pick up in the number of people who want

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Speaker 2: to get into the mining business. Development and West Coast

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Speaker 2: Chief executive Heath Milner's with us. Heath Morning, Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I read a story yesterday whining about the paperwork. Is Honestly,

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Speaker 2: if people are coming to the West Coast to open

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Speaker 2: a business, is the paperwork really a problem? Or are

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Speaker 2: you open for business and say let's go.

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Speaker 18: The West Coast has got great support for businesses coming here.

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Speaker 18: And that's not just I'm not just talking about local government,

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Speaker 18: but natural government as well. You know, we've got a

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Speaker 18: really open the door, a business sign on the door,

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Speaker 18: and we're just looking for investors and people to take

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Speaker 18: advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: Is it real? I mean, just because goal's at fifty

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Speaker 2: one hundred, do you open a mine?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? Well absolutely, it's real.

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Speaker 18: So if you take probably the highest profile mine at

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Speaker 18: the moment that's underway or just getting underways, Federation mine there.

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Speaker 18: I think last time you and Iceboat there was about

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Speaker 18: two and a half billion dollars worth of gold in

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Speaker 18: that mine that they know is there, and now it's

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Speaker 18: three point six, so you know it's it's big money

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Speaker 18: and pretty much ready to go. They've just need a

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Speaker 18: little bit more capital, So any new zeale and investors

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Speaker 18: that are looking to get a share of that, now

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Speaker 18: is the time, and in fact, the developed of trust here.

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Speaker 18: We've actually just put three millions into that project because

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Speaker 18: we can see the benefits coming back to the coast.

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Speaker 2: Is has the tide turned the Shane Jones we actually

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Speaker 2: need to mine forget the greense and the snails for

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Speaker 2: a while. Is that tide turned or not?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 18: I think it has for investors. At the end of

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Speaker 18: the day, the miners have to fire the regulations anyway,

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Speaker 18: And as much as you know Shane Jones is a

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Speaker 18: bit of a poster child for mining, you know that's

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Speaker 18: that's turning investors on. The miners are still doing exactly

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Speaker 18: the same job. You know, they have to have to

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Speaker 18: do it in the right way. They have to get

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Speaker 18: their consents. I'm sure he can open some doors, but

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Speaker 18: you know, the miners they're conscious that they have to

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Speaker 18: do the job right or they'll lose the lose the public's,

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Speaker 18: public's trust, and they won't be able to continue to operate.

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Speaker 2: Go well that Heath appreciated. There's always Heath milon Development

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Speaker 2: West Coast tub executive. Just I should point out the

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Speaker 2: story I read was on radio in New Zealand. You

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Speaker 2: sit around in the news room. Can we think of

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Speaker 2: anything negative about that? Oh, you're the paperwork. If there's

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Speaker 2: a gold rush on the paperwork's going to be a

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Speaker 2: NightWare nightmare. Anyway, back to Welby and Trump. In a

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Speaker 2: house great savings every day pasking Before I watched, as

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, a couple of things yesterday, almost back

917
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Speaker 2: to back. It was funny as one Albanezi Anthony Albanizi

918
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Speaker 2: had been on the phone to Donald Trump over tariffs.

919
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Speaker 2: He was happy to report that the US sold more

920
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Speaker 2: to Australia than Australia sold to the US, and it

921
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Speaker 2: had been that way for many, many years, and that

922
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Speaker 2: Donald had said they could work on an exemption read

923
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Speaker 2: the steel and the aluminium. This was presented by Elbow

924
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Speaker 2: as good news. Not long after that, I watched Donald

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Speaker 2: phone back on the receiver signing some more executive orders.

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Speaker 2: One of them was the paper straw order no more

927
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Speaker 2: paper straws, that, according to Donald, had been number one

928
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Speaker 2: trending for three days. It then got to the steel

929
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Speaker 2: and aluminium. He signed it twenty five percent on everything

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Speaker 2: not made in America, no exceptions, no exemptions. So no exceptions,

931
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Speaker 2: no exemptions, So who fool who? Who misled who? Donald

932
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Speaker 2: could not have been clearer on steel and aluminium. America

933
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Speaker 2: didn't need anyone, they would be making their own. The

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Speaker 2: Commerce Secretary, standing right next to the President, proceeded to

935
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Speaker 2: tell us all that when did this last time? They

936
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Speaker 2: created one hundred and seventy thousand steel jobs, and since

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Speaker 2: then they've lost most of them. So that led Donald

938
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Speaker 2: to once again say this was the start of making

939
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Speaker 2: America rich again, no exceptions, no exemptions, and he would

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Speaker 2: be returning in the next couple of weeks to do

941
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Speaker 2: similar things on cars and drugs and pharmaceuticals and chips.

942
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Speaker 2: Now I could spend all day telling you what an

943
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: idiot this bloke is on tariffs and how they wrecked jobs,

944
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Speaker 2: not make them. Even the poll out yesterday that broadly

945
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Speaker 2: showed Americans support his adventures in these early days, it

946
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Speaker 2: also showed most don't believe tariff's lower prices or indeed

947
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Speaker 2: make the cost of stuff go down. And do you

948
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Speaker 2: know why they don't believe that because they don't trouble

949
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Speaker 2: for Elbow is he has Well, he's either misled the

950
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Speaker 2: Australian people deliberately or more likely been sucked in by

951
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Speaker 2: a real estate shark from New York. Either way, if

952
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: you've got a border with America, pedal fentanyl or make

953
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Speaker 2: stuff they can make themselves, this is worth a lot

954
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: of dough. Well, you're in trouble, irony being we sell

955
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Speaker 2: apples and wine and burger patties basically, so we might

956
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Speaker 2: get lucky out of this. But poor old Elbow will

957
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Speaker 2: have victually have to explain that what he might have

958
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Speaker 2: thought happened didn't Asking Mike Irvin, listening as you've talked

959
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Speaker 2: about the recent poles, and I'm fascinated by anyone who

960
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Speaker 2: is frustrated by the current government not turning around the

961
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Speaker 2: colossal mess creative by Hopkins and stuff fast enough, actually

962
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Speaker 2: thinking that we would be better off with the Labour

963
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Speaker 2: Green Mary Party coalition led by Hapkins. Really three question marks.

964
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Speaker 2: It's a very good question you raise and articulate and

965
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Speaker 2: it's the great dilemma of the day. And my argument

966
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Speaker 2: is this, And somebody said this to me the other

967
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Speaker 2: day when I made a comment about this government not

968
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Speaker 2: quite being up to it at the moment. They need

969
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Speaker 2: to go for broke, And they said, but the alternative

970
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Speaker 2: is what, And that's not how you run life. You

971
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Speaker 2: don't go the alternative as what. You don't be mediocre

972
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Speaker 2: just because no one else is any good. Even if

973
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Speaker 2: no one else is any good and they're not, you

974
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Speaker 2: still go for broke as far as I'm concerned. And

975
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Speaker 2: that's the dilemma at the moment. And I also did

976
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Speaker 2: articulate a couple of weeks ago that don't underestimate the

977
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Speaker 2: political effectiveness of people. I kept Cain standing in the

978
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Speaker 2: House as he was again yesterday, blaming the current government

979
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Speaker 2: for everything that's wrong. Now, now, bright people, you and

980
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: I understand that everything that's wrong with the economy currently

981
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Speaker 2: is not the current government's fault. It was six years

982
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: in the making and it will be years to try

983
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: and fully correct. But a lot of people don't necessarily

984
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: understand that. And if they don't understand that Hipkins has

985
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: sucked them in like Trump sucks in an elbow, and

986
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Speaker 2: suddenly the poles are the way they are.

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Speaker 3: News is Next, New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking breakfast with the range rover villa designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togsa'd.

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Speaker 2: Be before I forget for those of you who are

991
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Speaker 2: texting about the Trump thing, yesterday you were clearly also watching.

992
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Speaker 2: They did ask about Australia. At that point, Trump did say,

993
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: they buy a lot of planes. They've got a surplus

994
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Speaker 2: with US. I looked up our numbers. By the way,

995
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Speaker 2: we're even stevens. It's a balanced trade portfolio. So he

996
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: can't ping us if he's true to his word. But

997
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: here's the thing, he's not true to his word because

998
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Speaker 2: yesterday in that conversation, if you were watching it, somebody

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Speaker 2: said in Australia, oh, yes, they buy a lot of

1000
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Speaker 2: planes and we've got a trade surplus. So that's really

1001
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Speaker 2: good and Elbow's a nice guy. Then a reporter said, well,

1002
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Speaker 2: what about the UK. Now, if you remember in the

1003
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Speaker 2: early days, one of the things he said, and he

1004
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Speaker 2: was at nighttime standing in front of the zero plane

1005
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Speaker 2: and they said, there are He said, tariffs are coming

1006
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Speaker 2: for the EU the UK. We might be able to

1007
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Speaker 2: do a deal on I think we can do a

1008
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Speaker 2: deal for the UK. They asked him about the UK. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he goes no way, no way in the word we're

1010
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Speaker 2: going to do a deal with the UK. There's no

1011
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: trade surplus. So to think that what he says on

1012
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 2: one day is going to happen on another simply makes

1013
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: you naive. Twenty two minutes away from eight follows X Wednesday,

1014
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson after eight o'clive forour your meantime.

1015
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: As if New Zealand Rugby didn't need more trouble there

1016
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: right off to court after calling him the lawyers. Has

1017
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Speaker 2: resulted in US and their six year sponsorship partner bailing

1018
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: after only three it's a breach of contracts, scrap. Simon

1019
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: Porter is managing director of Halo Sport, which is rugby's

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Speaker 2: most INFLUENTI player business. He's one of the sports most

1021
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Speaker 2: influential player agents. I hope I have an oversoldier there, Simon.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you, good.

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Speaker 11: Morning, good morning. Now it's always humbling in translated.

1024
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Speaker 2: No, well that's good. Do you know what's happened here?

1025
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you?

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Speaker 8: Is?

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Speaker 2: There a lot of scuttle but behind the scenes and

1028
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: we're all going, you know, oh yeah we saw this

1029
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Speaker 2: coming or not?

1030
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Speaker 11: No, not really. I think there were a few whispers

1031
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Speaker 11: around the place last year sort of off the back

1032
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Speaker 11: of Ratcliffe's investment into Manchester United, but really don't know

1033
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Speaker 11: that's what. It'd be quite interesting if it ever does

1034
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Speaker 11: see the light of day in court with pleadings, et cetera,

1035
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Speaker 11: to see what is behind it. But no, it sort

1036
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Speaker 11: of came a little bit out of the blue.

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Speaker 2: Because the risk the union take is that any else

1038
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Speaker 2: have got a counter argument, which is we were expecting

1039
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Speaker 2: as part of the contract ABC dn E and none

1040
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Speaker 2: of that's happened.

1041
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Speaker 11: Hence we've gone, yeah, that that is one where it

1042
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 11: could be or they might just be backing themselves that

1043
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Speaker 11: the All Blacks, being one of the biggest brands in

1044
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Speaker 11: the world, can just replace them quite easily given what

1045
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 11: there is to offer with space on the Jersey and

1046
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Speaker 11: the training Dusey. Except you and going yep, well we've

1047
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Speaker 11: broken the contract, but you've now got a duty to

1048
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 11: mitigate your loss and go and find a replacement for

1049
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Speaker 11: that hole, and that they might just be backing themselves

1050
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Speaker 11: that that New Zealand can do that. But I think

1051
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Speaker 11: New Zealand have to protect themselves by getting the proceedings.

1052
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Speaker 2: In really so you think they're making the right move,

1053
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: who's that in New Zealand?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I just don't think they've probably got another option. Look,

1056
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Speaker 11: and I'm sure one thing, you know, scuttled up behind

1057
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Speaker 11: the scenes, et cetera. Discussions would have been going like

1058
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Speaker 11: this will be last resort, this isn't the first thing

1059
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Speaker 11: they'll do. They would have been trying really hard to

1060
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Speaker 11: get in across the line, et cetera. And so I

1061
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Speaker 11: would have thought to protect their position, they probably have

1062
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Speaker 11: to be in the proceedings to say, hey, well we're

1063
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Speaker 11: actually serious, and you know you've got a front with

1064
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Speaker 11: cash even if they are trying to find a replacement.

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Speaker 11: I think, you know is a very rusty lawyer. I

1066
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Speaker 11: think you probably just have to, you know, you've got

1067
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Speaker 11: to pret your position, begin the proceedings in.

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Speaker 2: In what court would this be held and over what

1069
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: time frame would it unfold?

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Speaker 11: Well, there'll be a jurisdiction clause in the contract, which,

1071
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Speaker 11: given that New Zealand are based, when he's in a

1072
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Speaker 11: Rugby's based obviously in New Zealand, I would have thought

1073
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Speaker 11: it's probably in the High Court here in New Zealand.

1074
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Speaker 2: Okay, would be my guess, and presumably.

1075
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Speaker 11: Insisted on an English clause for other ruler law for

1076
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Speaker 11: their contract, and I just don't actually know.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing for me is that this is a

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Speaker 2: fifty five billion and when I say billion, I mean euros,

1079
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Speaker 2: so it's one hundred billion dollar plus company. And they're

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Speaker 2: claiming allegedly this morning that times are a bit tight

1081
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: in petrochemicals. You know, sixty seven eight million dollars worth

1082
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Speaker 2: of business is not falling it because, I mean, that's

1083
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Speaker 2: not a reason is it to walk away from a contract?

1084
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Speaker 11: No, there's something's happened there. Yeah, I don't know. I

1085
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Speaker 11: honestly don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it could be.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean they've got I mean it's very hard.

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00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 11: With always sponsored contract design, you effectively give up a

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Speaker 11: bundle of right. So they gave them the training Jersey.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a spot on the shorts, which was

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Speaker 11: a new initiative by New Zealand Rugby. And then it

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Speaker 11: will say they get to set a number of player

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Speaker 11: hours where players come and they're available for photo shoots

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00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 11: or they're available for in person appearances, et cetera. Like

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Speaker 11: to say that you haven't provided something. That's probably pretty

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Speaker 11: difficult because they are extremely prescriptive contracts.

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Speaker 2: Is six years unusual?

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Speaker 11: No, Well, they did the Front of Jersey with el

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00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 11: trade was six years, and a lot of the contracts

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Speaker 11: that have done were all six year contracts that were

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Speaker 11: done at the similar time. Now, probably that is collective

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Speaker 11: agreements normally run three years, so I imagine that they

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Speaker 11: try to get two cycles of collective agreements to give

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Speaker 11: certainty when you're doing collective agreement negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Is eight million a good deal? I was surprised at

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Speaker 2: how low it was to be, Frank.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if that's actually the number right, but

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00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 11: there's a lot of those. Well for a team that

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00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 11: only plays fourteen games a year, you know, compared to

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00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 11: a Major League Baseball team that plays one hundred and

1111
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 11: sixty or you know anything, it's probably not bad. In

1112
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 11: the in the scheme of things of their other partners,

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00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 11: you know, it's right up there as one of their

1114
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 11: top deals. I think the Turner was about two hundred

1115
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 11: and sixty eight million last year, and about one hundred

1116
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 11: and twenty of that was sponsorship Front of Jersey Pale

1117
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 11: lot because that is the premium spot. So you know,

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00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 11: look at and all those deals were done before and

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00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 11: he's in a Rugby commercial split off and before civil

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00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 11: it was really done because you know, if you look

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Speaker 11: back at the timing. So this is actually a really

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00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 11: interesting little exercise now to see if they do go

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Speaker 11: out and try to replace you, if they get another

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Speaker 11: sponsor to or one of their existing sponsors who's not

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Speaker 11: on the jersey to step up and fill the hole.

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Speaker 2: Is the market the point eight million? You can't get

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Speaker 2: it locally, It has to be a big player internationally.

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Speaker 11: Yep. Yeah. If you look at their sponsors then generally

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00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 11: they are farmer broad in big foreign companies because you know,

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00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 11: they're just That's probably one of the biggest changes in

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00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 11: the sponsorship landscape over the last sort of fifteen years

1132
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 11: is that you know that the numbers needed to run

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00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 11: these teams and to run these organizations are so huge

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00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 11: that you know, you kind of have no option but

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Speaker 11: to position it as a as a global brand attracting

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Speaker 11: global sponsors.

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Speaker 2: Interesting stuff, all right, So I appreciate your expertise. Simon Porter,

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Speaker 2: Halo Sport Managing Director, sixteen minutes away from mate past game.

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Speaker 2: Very good news, Mike. Ourself storage facility has stores who

1140
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: now have their storage piece four hundred and ten dollars

1141
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: each month paid by MSD and Salvation Army got good

1142
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: news on that more shortly sixteen to two, The.

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00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1144
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: News talks.

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00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: That be Mike, you're missing the point. He's done with Rugby.

1146
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: It's a dying sports soccer. If one American footballer year

1147
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: growth sports, well, I mean, if that's true, you don't

1148
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: sign a six year contract because Rugby's issues are not new.

1149
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: It'd be uncommon Mike if there was and are not

1150
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: to be an arbitration clause. If that's the case, the

1151
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: dispute will be confidential. I hope that's true, because I

1152
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: don't think either party would want this played out in court.

1153
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: Mic our sol Storage now, yes, the self storage. I'm

1154
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: on the bridge of victory this morning. Domestically speaking, I'm

1155
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: very excited about this. At a location that will remain undisclosed,

1156
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: there is a skip that has arrived this morning and

1157
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: things have been cleared up and things have been cleared

1158
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: out into that skip, and that led to a conversation

1159
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: the other day. I said, if you're clearing stuff out,

1160
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: make sure it's all cleared out properly. Fill that skip

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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: get rid of this crap. I'm into getting rid of crap.

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00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: And I said, what about the storage. I found out

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00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: the other day we have a storage facility. I thought

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00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: we'd cleared ourselves of all storage facilities. This is not true.

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00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: There has been a secret storage facility in our relationship

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Speaker 2: that's been holding goods that I discovered the other day.

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Speaker 2: And I said, why are you getting this ship empty

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00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 2: the storage facility. I'm not against storage facilities. I've stored stuff.

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00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: But in storing stuff, what you discover is there's an

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00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: es dollishing amount of crap in this country being locked

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00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: up behind doors, and people pay hundreds of dollars a

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00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: month just to store stuff they are never going to use.

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00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: I for example, of a coffee table, and when I

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00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: say coffee table, I would have a clue what the

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00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: coffee table looks like, an a side table and several

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Speaker 2: other tables. And that is in storage quote unquote from

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Speaker 2: a person will remain nameless just in case. And I

1178
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: say just in case, what, oh, one of the kids

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00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: may need it one day one day, I said, just

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Speaker 2: think about it. The story the coffee table will be crap.

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Speaker 2: The dining table's crap. The reason it's crap is because

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00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't crap, you'd have it in the house. The

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00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: reason it's not the house but a crap. How much

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00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: are you paying to store crap? You're never going to

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: use hundreds of dollars a month. So we've got a

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00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: skip at an undisclosed location, and we're filling the skip

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00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: up this morning, and then hopefully the storage facility is

1188
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: going to be empty, so we will have an empty

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Speaker 2: house with no crap and no more bills from storage

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Speaker 2: facilities and no more crap in those storage facilities. Now

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: it is only ten minutes away from it, and it's

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00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: early part of the day, and things could go awry.

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Speaker 17: But as I said, you've missed an opportunity to what

1194
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 17: do a Berry Humphrey's estate style or.

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Speaker 2: Don't get don't get, don't get me started.

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Speaker 17: I mean imagine that maybe people queuing out for you know,

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00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 17: this was once something that might asking almost decided to

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Speaker 17: put on his lounge but didn't.

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Speaker 2: If you missed the Barry Humphrey story the other day,

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Speaker 2: the auction opens tomorrow the next day. That went wrong

1201
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: as well for me. Unfortunately, that particular dream is not

1202
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: going to be lived in this particular.

1203
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Speaker 17: I mean you should you should always put a time

1204
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 17: limit on this, on the storing stuff, right, I couldn't

1205
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Speaker 17: agree more, Well, you know what it be at six months,

1206
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Speaker 17: Maybe go generous a year. If you haven't had to

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00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 17: access that item, it's gone a year.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree. You don't need you and I should be

1209
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: married Glynn, Yeah, because look how well will we get.

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Speaker 17: On at the very least, like every move, Like if

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00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 17: you haven't used something since the last time you.

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Speaker 12: Moved, you don't need it, it's gone Berger.

1213
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: I I I asked this question going to the break

1214
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: have you ever tried to register for an auction at Christie's?

1215
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: Nine away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News Talks.

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Speaker 2: V OMG, Mike, why don't donate to a n op shop?

1218
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: That's lawful to be dumped, that's awful to be dumped?

1219
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: Hope you're recycling Mike to the selly's or hospice. Ironically,

1220
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: in telling that story, I forgot to tell you another story,

1221
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: which I will tell you about tomorrow. So much easier

1222
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: said than done. Seven minutes away from eight, researchers in

1223
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Speaker 2: Melbourne have developed a smoke detection device which could save

1224
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: the Australian wine industry a fortune. How's this work? It's

1225
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: called wizards can determine whether grapes are still salvagible after

1226
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: smoke and fire exposure. The Trope University researcher Ian Porter's

1227
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: behind all of this and he's with us Sean. Very

1228
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, good morning, Mike.

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00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: Is this unique to Australia in terms of bushfires or

1231
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: potentially it's global? Is this an issue in their wine industry? Everywhere?

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 18: Absolutely all the temperate zones around the world could benefit

1233
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 18: from the technology. So we hope it's adopted firstly across

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 18: Australia and it's in four states now and should expand

1235
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 18: out and then hopefully go global.

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00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: So the grapes are in a warehouse, you do what

1237
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: this is a probe? Is it a sniffer? What does

1238
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: it do?

1239
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 18: No, the grapes on the vines during the season. What

1240
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 18: it does in real time is give the growers an

1241
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 18: answer as to whether the smoke has been too much

1242
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 18: to taint the wine that will eventually be put in

1243
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 18: the bottle.

1244
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: Is that a yes or no? Is it a number figure?

1245
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 20: What is it? No?

1246
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 18: It is a traffic light system. So it gives green, yellow,

1247
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 18: and red, and it lets you know whether you are okay,

1248
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 18: whether you might need some intervention on white wines or

1249
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 18: red wines. Yeah, and then you take it from there.

1250
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Does it do it what bunch by a bunch, vine

1251
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: by a vine row by row?

1252
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 18: No, you put it in a vineyard and it'll estimate

1253
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 18: or you might have one or two or three depending

1254
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 18: on the undulation in your vineyard, and then that will

1255
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 18: predict across that vineyard whether the grapes are safe to

1256
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 18: harvest or not, and save you if you've got smoke taint.

1257
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 18: And also you all the costs of netting, labor, et

1258
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 18: cetera to harvest the crop.

1259
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: Because I remember, I can't remember when, but it was

1260
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: a number of years ago that a lot of people

1261
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: produced wine with a smoke taint. Didn't they became a thing?

1262
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 18: No, not really. Most vineurons hate getting or wine drinkers

1263
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 18: hate smoke taint. Although at very very low levels you've

1264
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 18: got similar compounds to what you get through cellaring. So

1265
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 18: until they become noxious and become like an ashtray, the

1266
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 18: wine is still palatable. But growers don't like it. There

1267
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 18: they believe it develops in the bottle. It actually doesn't,

1268
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 18: but it can become a little stronger in the first

1269
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 18: six months and that's it. But if you know what

1270
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 18: the levels are and you use the wizard, you won't

1271
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 18: get that.

1272
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Speaker 2: Are you guys at try clipping the ticket? Do you

1273
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: run that sort of operation where you invent something and

1274
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: you get commercial gain from.

1275
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 18: It none whatsoever? Sent it out to a commercial company

1276
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 18: to market. All we want is growers to avoid the

1277
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 18: emotional and financial stress from what happens when they get

1278
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 18: smoke around and that's from bushfires about every five years

1279
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 18: in Australia, and we want to make sure that they

1280
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 18: benefit from that. In two twenty day, last five hundred

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00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 18: million dollars worth of grapes and they could have saved

1282
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 18: a loss if that had this technology.

1283
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Speaker 2: Fantastic, go well with it. I appreciate it very much.

1284
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: I think it is too twenty and oh disagree with me,

1285
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: but too. I think it was then, say five years

1286
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: ago some people I think it was South Australia produced

1287
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: wine and people went, there's something not right there and

1288
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: they concluded it had something to do with the smoke.

1289
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: I reason they asked about the commercial side of it.

1290
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: That's what Luxon wants to do here with science. If

1291
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: you invent something good here, there's commercial applications to be had,

1292
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: and that's the sort of direction we need to be

1293
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: hitting them. Politics Wednesday is.

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Speaker 1: Next, setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: mic costing, breakfast with Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers.

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Speaker 3: Others can't use togs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be something both of being the re hands of

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Speaker 2: Johnie Mitchell. Early Jennie Mitchell.

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Speaker 12: Carried around on your yep, I can hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yours, Nadya read and I now sit here wondering why

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Speaker 2: we never had her on the program.

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Speaker 5: It's the only.

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Speaker 2: Because she's a New Zealander, so she was relously or

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Speaker 2: available to us. I assume before she moved. She's another

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Speaker 2: one of these people who's moved. She's she's gone voted

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Speaker 2: labor couldn't get back in during COVID applied to where

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Speaker 2: my Q wouldn't be letting. She said, well, how come

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Speaker 2: the Wiggles are in and I'm not, So she went

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Speaker 2: back to Manchester. That story I literally just made up.

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Speaker 2: She did move from New Zealand to Manchester, and she's

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Speaker 2: put out a fourth album. It's called enter now brightness.

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Speaker 2: Assume that's how she'd wanted, said into now brightness ten tracks,

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Speaker 2: fourteen and a half minutes. Very pleasant. I think she's

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Speaker 2: been a lovely morning. I get her on, Sam, you

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Speaker 2: should be ashamed that she was here all along. She

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Speaker 2: was sitting here in the country waiting to be interviewed,

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Speaker 2: and you never called her. You have to do everything.

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Speaker 2: It's eight minutes past eight Politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with

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Speaker 2: us along with Jenny Anderson. Good morning to both of you.

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Speaker 21: Morning Jenny, Morning.

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Speaker 20: To both of you.

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Speaker 2: Jinny. Two questions actually for you. One? Where were you

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Speaker 2: in Parliament yesterday?

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Speaker 20: On the front row? Like I usually am?

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Speaker 2: Well you weren't you usual?

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Speaker 20: See? Yes, I was.

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Speaker 2: They weren't. Joe Luxon was there? Is it Luxeon and Reluxton?

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Speaker 20: No, you must have been look at the camera, funny.

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Speaker 20: I was exactly where are usually?

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Speaker 2: Where was Joe Luxon there sitting behind me? I think

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Speaker 2: she would behind you? Yeah, okay, well that's why I

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Speaker 2: was pleased. As soon as I heard of never heard

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Speaker 2: of speak before in my life, I thought, well, there's

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Speaker 2: a labor part in doing some work for once. So

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Speaker 2: when she asked the question, I thought where's Ginny, because

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Speaker 2: I thought there was the front. So I'm pleased about

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Speaker 2: that second question, knowing you the way I know you, Ginny,

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Speaker 2: which is not that well at all. But honestly, hand

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Speaker 2: on heart, given the opportunity, you would really want to

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Speaker 2: drive a land roper of those steps, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 20: But I wouldn't break the rules. I'm quite good like

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Speaker 20: that usually, But I don't think you want to. But

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Speaker 20: if you got told not to, and particularly got told

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Speaker 20: you and you got filmed by TV one news, yeah

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Speaker 20: that's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I'll come to that part. But there's the land rover

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Speaker 2: and they go, Ginny, you want to write it up

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Speaker 2: the steps? You'd go for it, wouldn't you. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't know, Yes, yes, when I would?

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Speaker 20: Actually, then you're christianding me.

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Speaker 21: I do.

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Speaker 20: I do have one Christian for you. I just have

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Speaker 20: one thing I want to clear up because I listened

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Speaker 20: to your show, and I did listen to the Prime

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Speaker 20: Minister yesterday morning. Yes, and I'm pretty sure he said this,

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Speaker 20: but I just want to clarify he did say this.

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Speaker 20: Did he say quote, We've got a rolling thunder, constant

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Speaker 20: announcements to remove barnacles and get the show on the road.

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Speaker 20: And if he did say that, can you please tell

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Speaker 20: me what does it mean?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything, and we had it to be

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Speaker 2: fair to you, Jenny. We had a conversation afterwards, going

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon? He meant by removing barnacles from

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Speaker 2: the ship and.

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Speaker 21: And we did the rolling thunderstounds cool? I just think that, well,

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Speaker 21: does it?

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Speaker 11: Mark? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? He didn't. It didn't sound cool when he said

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Speaker 2: it to me because I burst out laughing. Who workshops

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Speaker 2: that stuff with the Mark? You are you the insideer?

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Speaker 2: Is there a comericant?

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Speaker 20: In turn?

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Speaker 21: Maybe he's your leader and he's Look, I'm telling you now,

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Speaker 21: Mike that in terms of where we are as a

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Speaker 21: country and at the moment there's a lot of stuffering

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Speaker 21: going on because of the economic situation.

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Speaker 2: Yes there is.

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Speaker 21: That is have a guy like him.

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Speaker 11: That is to me.

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Speaker 21: I've worked under lots of very, very good leaders all

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Speaker 21: around the world. This guy is a class act. He's

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Speaker 21: he knows what has to be done. He's got a

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Speaker 21: proven track record, he's actually been in the real world.

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Speaker 21: In terms of delivery.

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Speaker 11: It is tough.

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Speaker 21: We knew that it was going to be tough, and

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Speaker 21: we know what that. We've got a lot of work

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Speaker 21: to do. But I'll tell you what, I'd rather have

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Speaker 21: a guy like Chris Lux with his background, his experience,

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Speaker 21: his energy and his focus to get things done.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree, and making this as a political

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Speaker 2: as it possibly can, I tend to agree, and I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good will for him generally.

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Speaker 2: But I think Ginny does make a point, and I

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Speaker 2: know she makes a point that's being talked about widely

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Speaker 2: around the country. When he comes out with his growth, growth, growth,

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Speaker 2: barnacles on hips and rolling thunder, there's something about that

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Speaker 2: that people go, oh, mate, you know, if you haven't

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Speaker 2: delivered yet, which he hasn't and he might. Let's hope

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Speaker 2: he does. But he comes across as slightly wonky and nerdy.

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean I would dispute they have delivered. I

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Speaker 21: mean there's been a lot done in the first twelve

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Speaker 21: months in terms of tax relief. We see inflation now

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Speaker 21: back to sustainable levels, we see interest rates coming back down.

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Speaker 21: That's not easy. That's not easy stuff to do. It's

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Speaker 21: actually really tough, and being inside government you got to

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Speaker 21: make tough decisions.

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Speaker 11: He does that.

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Speaker 21: The easy thing to do would be what Labour did

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Speaker 21: and just keep borrowing money and borrowing money and borrowing

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Speaker 21: money and shoving out the door, and we'd end up

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Speaker 21: being a third world country and a but I think

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Speaker 21: in the same place as Venezuela, and we're not going

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Speaker 21: to do that. We're going to we're going to be.

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Speaker 21: We're going to be we're going to be a world

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Speaker 21: class country, well.

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Speaker 2: Better and if you can pull it off, you'll get

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Speaker 2: another term. And that's how democracy works. What we're going

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Speaker 2: to say, Jenny, Oh, well, I.

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Speaker 20: Think that that that's that's fine. You can you can

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Speaker 20: say that's what he's trying to do. But that's not people.

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Speaker 20: It's not it's not what people feel. So people aren't

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Speaker 20: getting those benefits you talk about. People are paying higher rates,

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Speaker 20: higher insurance, their mortgages are still high, their property prices

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Speaker 20: and willing to ny and well, people aren't feeling that.

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Speaker 20: And I think the problem you've got. If he is

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Speaker 20: this big sea that his flowery CEO language, then why

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Speaker 20: didn't he sack someone like David Seymour who has constantly

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Speaker 20: disobeyed him, Because if he really was that top cutting

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Speaker 20: edge CEO guy, he should make tough calls. Senior leadership

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Speaker 20: was Adrian Or.

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Speaker 2: But he missed that particular opportunity. Let's take a brief

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Speaker 2: break Morning Moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EPA, sixteen past eight, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell weathers, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: can I give the chips to some advice through you?

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Speaker 2: Can you stop asking for everyone to be sacked? It's

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: just behaving. The way David Simo has is not a

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Speaker 2: sackable offense, and the Prime Minister and the Coalition can't

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: go round sacking people left, right and center.

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Speaker 20: So you think it's okay that he wrote to police

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Speaker 20: and said about Polkinghorn see.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an expert, Mark you are, and that you

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Speaker 2: said he should go to the Police Complaints Authority ruh.

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Speaker 21: No, that the police wrote back to them and referred

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Speaker 21: him back to the IPCA or Polkinghorn's lawyer. Look the

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Speaker 21: reality of it, as David was acting as the local

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Speaker 21: MP and locally in peace are conduits for information and

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Speaker 21: they have to advance issues for their constituents. I have

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Speaker 21: a I don't now because it's conflict of interest because

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Speaker 21: I'm Minister of Police but I have someone else do

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Speaker 21: it for me. But before that, I had a quarterly

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Speaker 21: meeting with my police herea commander. I had a list

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Speaker 21: of the issues that my constituents and community have brought forward,

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Speaker 21: and I'll discussed those with them. However, there is a line,

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Speaker 21: and you should try to be very aware. And it's

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Speaker 21: a good remind of fall MPs not to induce yourself.

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Speaker 2: Into Mark because so so at that particular point, he's

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Speaker 2: the local MP. Some guy comes to him who you've

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Speaker 2: never heard of before, and he goes, look, here's what's

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Speaker 2: happening to me. Can you write me a letter?

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Speaker 21: Yep, And that's why I'm not seeking guessing him. He's

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Speaker 21: the local IMP.

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Speaker 2: I benefit of you know, you mean, sure he turned

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Speaker 2: maybe Polkingholm turned out to the whole thing turned out

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Speaker 2: to be something you didn't know at the time. And

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Speaker 2: if he didn't know at the time, how can he

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Speaker 2: possibly foresee what's going to happen.

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Speaker 20: Well, that's not clear. That's not clear from the case.

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Speaker 20: So like that's not clear whether he did know him before,

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Speaker 20: or he was a friend or what was the relation.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't really matters.

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Speaker 20: Constituent.

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Speaker 21: Well, sorry for that that I see in my electric

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Speaker 21: now well, he also wants.

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Speaker 20: It's not a very good test he has been asked

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Speaker 20: and won't say where there he's received any funny.

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Speaker 2: Where did you get that from? That question from Hipkins

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Speaker 2: yesterday is what do you know? Why did you ask that?

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Speaker 2: And what difference does it make.

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Speaker 20: That's a question that the media have been asking. What

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Speaker 20: was the prior relationship here? And if he's if it's

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 20: so clear and it's so fine, just say you didn't

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Speaker 20: And he won't say, but what if he did?

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Speaker 2: But if to say I give some more money or

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Speaker 2: you or Mark because you've been locally so I happened

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Speaker 2: to give you guys money, I'm still as entitled as

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Speaker 2: a constituent to the same representation whether I've giving you

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Speaker 2: money or not, aren't I.

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Speaker 20: I think it raises concerned about transparency if he's not

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Speaker 20: upfront and saying that, fine if he did it, but

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Speaker 20: he should be clear about that he did it. And

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Speaker 20: that's what politicals.

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Speaker 21: He was at his local MP it was before he

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Speaker 21: became a minister, and you know, and that's along the

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Speaker 21: short of it. And the other thing too. On the

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Speaker 21: land I mean, I love those old land Rovers. But

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Speaker 21: the thing that I love about the fact that it's.

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Speaker 2: All over the media.

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Speaker 21: Is that And it was the same reason I came.

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Speaker 21: When I came back home in twenty eleven, I've been

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Speaker 21: involved in delivering the first elections up in Iraq and

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Speaker 21: one of the big issues up there is that the

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Speaker 21: candidates would blow each other up with roadside bombs. And

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Speaker 21: when I came home and the big issue, well, the

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Speaker 21: big issue was the teapot tapes, and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 21: it's good to be home. The only issue that we

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Speaker 21: have a little bit of exactly, it's not some contexts

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Speaker 21: around it, yeah, exactly, it's a second I.

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Speaker 20: Still think though, and there's a general feeling that members

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Speaker 20: of parliament helping constituents with an inquiry to police, that's

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Speaker 20: one thing that that happens, fine, but in suiting yourself

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 20: in a murder investigation writing but he was under inquiry

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Speaker 20: for this. It was a serious offense and he's inserting

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 20: himself into a police inquiry of a serious offense and

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Speaker 20: that's quite different to just advocating to you.

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Speaker 21: And I think the whole question is at the time

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Speaker 21: of writing, and we can't be in his head. He's

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Speaker 21: acting and good faith is as a local MP. But

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Speaker 21: it's a good reminder for all of us as MPs

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Speaker 21: to make be very conscious of that line and not

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Speaker 21: jocting yourself exactly.

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Speaker 2: Quick one for you, Jenny, This this this thing of

1525
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: the Maori Party who you're going to have to deal

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: with in one way, shape or other if you want

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Speaker 2: to be contender for the election. Is this this parliamentary commissioner.

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Speaker 2: I noticed that your leader now says we can have

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Speaker 2: a commissioner for tatty. That's a waste of money because

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: you can't have it with powers. There are no powers.

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: So you're just going to employ yet another person to

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Speaker 2: earn a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year to

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Speaker 2: write reports to achieve.

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Speaker 20: What Well, where did you get that from? Because I

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01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 20: was pretty clear at White Tungy that we support encouraging

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Speaker 20: the White Tungi Tribunal. We weren't very excited about the

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01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 20: independent Commissioner, and Chris Hipkins that White Tungi came out

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01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 20: quite clearly and stated that, well.

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Speaker 2: He changed his mind. It says Chris Hipkins, he's open

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Speaker 2: to consider parliamentary Commission of trity is proposed by the

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Speaker 2: married parties. We're all our role having veto about so

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Speaker 2: you just quite clearly.

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Speaker 20: I'll go back and find it for you. Who said

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 20: quite clearly that the White tang he's.

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Speaker 2: Changed his mind and insuming period. I heard him at

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Speaker 2: White Tangy. But there's days ago. Stay with it, Jenny,

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: Come on, this is twenty.

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Speaker 20: Four today and he said that too.

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Speaker 21: So you're ruling that rule that statement out there.

1550
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 20: What I'll say to you, what I'll say to you.

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 20: It is important that that we has in place the tribunal,

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Speaker 20: and that's the We've got.

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Speaker 2: That in place. But they want a special parliamentary commissioner.

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01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: He says he's open to considering it.

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Speaker 20: Is he not or considering it too? It's quite different

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Speaker 20: to what you if the head of.

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Speaker 2: It to get sacked. We're don't have to sack you

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well I think you love this one.

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Speaker 2: You can have an opinion.

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Speaker 20: Interesting how like David Seymour does really stupid things like

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Speaker 20: in to being a murder investigation. But you're far more

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 20: interested in the White Tangy trub.

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Speaker 2: Here because you can see it this morning and I'm

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: just trying to you know, you want a second for

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Speaker 2: driving the landy. Yeah, that's that's not.

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Speaker 20: Who said no? The man in the cart, the man

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Speaker 20: in the security did they know quite clearly he was so.

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Speaker 2: During he wants to cause it, and you know you'd

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Speaker 2: want to go. I would do it. And Mark, you

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: didn't actually answer the question. You too would want to

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: drive up the steps, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 21: Or if I had, if I had from the speaker,

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Speaker 21: I would love to drive the land up the steps,

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Speaker 21: if I had permission from the from the commission, from.

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Speaker 2: The sorry, from the speaker, if you maybe from drive

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Speaker 2: the landing up the steps. Would it get the barnacles

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Speaker 2: off the boat?

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Speaker 20: Yeahlling those barnacles.

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Speaker 21: With barticles, wasn't it wasn't even a boat.

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Speaker 20: Wasn't a boat? I think it sounds I think actually

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Speaker 20: sounds like a really good country in Western lyric and

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Speaker 20: a song I.

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Speaker 2: Think boat as we drive the landy to your own.

1585
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: But we've got to keep taking barnacles off this boat.

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Speaker 20: We've got a rolling thunder of constant announcements to remove barclesho.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News Togstead.

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Speaker 2: V Valentine's Day this week, and I think you'd be

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Speaker 2: surprised how many connections are made at our Veda's thirty

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Speaker 2: five living well communities around this beautiful country. Now there's

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Speaker 2: been couples who have actually met during village social activities,

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Speaker 2: like a couple at a village and standmore by this

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: in Auckland who both shared an interest in lawn bowls

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: and met on the village green. Now, whether you come

1595
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: into an r VIDA community as a couple or you're single,

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Speaker 2: there's lots of opportunities to build new friendship connections with

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Speaker 2: new neighbors, from the brewing clubs to the cycling groups,

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Speaker 2: the community gardens to art classes, variety of resident led

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Speaker 2: activities to get involved in at each of the r

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Speaker 2: Vida locations Village social activities they're great, great way to

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Speaker 2: meet new people, learn something new, have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of fun. So whether it's a romantic or platonic doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter. There's friendship connections, friendly connections all over the

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: place to be made at our Vida's retirement communities. Because

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Speaker 2: it is never too late to find your nearest a

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Speaker 2: Vida living well community are Vida dot co dot nz

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Speaker 2: Vida's a r Vida are Vida dot co dot z

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Speaker 2: posking little thing in the news on tourism Erica Stanford

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 2: next week, who's the Minister of Immigration going to be

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: bringing ideas to the Prime Minister to try and boost

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Speaker 2: Chinese tourism. They are claiming you can get a visa

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: process in eight days. But the problem with that is

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: it's a visa and it's paperwork. And what I didn't

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: realize is they used to allow you to do it

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: in Mandarin. Because I don't know if you know this,

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: but Chinese tend to speak Mandarin, not a lot of English,

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: and suddenly you've got to apply for a visa in

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: the language you don't speak, and you wonder why you

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: don't want to come to the country. So they're looking

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: at things like that, possibly fingers crossed a visa waiver.

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to go with it, but

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Speaker 2: we'll keep you posted and see what they're up to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Australia after the news. Steve Price is

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 2: next to hear news talk, saidb.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way, News Talks head vs.

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Speaker 2: My Context. Not the first time that Landy's been up

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: those steps I understand, Well, it turns out you're wrong

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01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 2: because I know why you're making the point. But watching

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01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: the Parliament yesterday, Jerry Brownlee who it was asked by

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Speaker 2: the charity. So the landrover was at parliament for a charity.

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Speaker 2: We told you about it on the program the other day.

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: It's going up the country and it's raising money. They

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01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: wanted to recreate this time back in the early nineteen

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01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: hundreds where apparently a land drover was driven up the steps.

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: Now when they asked permission from the Speaker, the Speaker

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01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: not to be too grumpy about it, thought well, we

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: better do some investigation here and find out when in

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: fact this land drover went up the steps and what

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01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: was the purpose of it. So we don't want to

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01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: automatically just say no. So they did the research. They

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: went to the library, they looked for the photos. There

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: are none. There is no record anywhere of a landrover. Ever,

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: he reckons Jerry Browne. It's urban myth. So therefore you're

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01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: not recreating anything. So as a result he said no.

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away.

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Speaker 15: From nine, International correspondence with ends an eye Insurance Peace

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 15: of mind for New Zealand Business and.

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Speaker 2: The big red landuar left the price.

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Speaker 16: Good morning to you, Good morning morning.

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01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: I reckon elbow has been sucked in, don't you.

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 16: Yes, he had a very interesting day yesterday, didn't he.

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 16: I mean he rushed to the phone. It was a

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 16: pre arranged call President Trump. So let's get that up front.

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 16: And I mean, this call didn't come about because the

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 16: tariffs got slapped on and suddenly now Anthony Albanize wanted

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 16: to argue our case. It was a pre arranged call.

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01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 16: Lasted forty minutes. The President post the call called Anthony

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 16: Albaniz he quote a very fine man, but then proceeded

1661
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 16: not long after via his department that's actually going to

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 16: work out whether Australia gets exemption on these tariffs or not.

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 16: To say, well, hang on them in Australia is threatening

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 16: US national security. They've allowed all his aluminum into the country.

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01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 16: They've gone well past what they said.

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01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 11: They were the.

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01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 16: Expert to us by one hundred percent. So the ball

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 16: is now firmly back in the US court. I mean,

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01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 16: we know what happens here, Donald Trump. He signs these

1670
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 16: presidential orders and then the Department gets to work in

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01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 16: the background. Most of the diplomats. I saw Mike yesterday

1672
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 16: talked about this said, look, we're at stage one, we're

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 16: on the ground floor. We're not out of the woods yet.

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 16: This is going to take a long time. It's going

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 16: to take a lot of convincing and we're not sure

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 16: that Australia will end up actually being exempt on steel

1677
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 16: and adaminium going into the US. And that's an interesting

1678
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 16: aspect because the prime ministers really come straight out, stood

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 16: out in the Prime Minister who courtyard and crowed about

1680
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 16: the call, basically saying we're going to be exempt.

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 11: Well, it's going to be.

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 16: Very embarrassing for him if that doesn't happen, particularly given

1683
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 16: that that a low happened during the lead up to

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01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 16: an election.

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. And we'll come back to the election

1686
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: in just a moment. Sam Kerr, I think I suggested

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Speaker 2: to you. I read a piece yesterday in one of

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: the papers. Jeffrey Robinson wrote, See it should never have

1689
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: been in court. It was and she's been found not guilty.

1690
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: But the bigger question is this, as so often as

1691
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: the case, so much bigger than it needed to be,

1692
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: isn't it? Yes?

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01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 16: But the reputational damage to Sam Kerr, so you can't

1694
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 16: calculate that. I read Robertson's column and his sentiment is

1695
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 16: probably correct. I mean, there's a lot more important things

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 16: in the UK justice system I would have thought to

1697
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 16: be dealing with than Sam Kerb. But what it's done,

1698
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 16: and this is the debate we're having in this country.

1699
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 16: This woman's the captain of the Matilda's, the national soccer team.

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 16: She's the most highly paid female soccer stuff probably in

1701
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 16: the world, place with Chelsea hasn't played for a year

1702
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 16: because of a knee injury. But what she showed on

1703
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 16: that night where she abused a copper, refused to pay

1704
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 16: a cab driver was a level of privilege that most

1705
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 16: people feel uncomfortable. I mean, I'd never thrown up in

1706
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 16: the back of a taxi, but I can understand how

1707
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 16: it might happen. I've never been in a cab locked

1708
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,520
Speaker 16: and driven to a police station, and yes, I'd be agitated.

1709
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 16: Would I be libel as her partner did to kick

1710
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 16: the back window out, No I wouldn't, and then to

1711
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 16: end up in court and all that body cam. She's

1712
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 16: got a long way to go back to get back

1713
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 16: to the point where at one point I would suggest

1714
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 16: to you. During the World Cup in this country, she

1715
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 16: was the most popular Australian of all. She was the

1716
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 16: Young Australian of the Year in twenty eighteen. She'd been

1717
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 16: lauded by every politician up and down the country. I

1718
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 16: just think today she seems like a bit of a

1719
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 16: privileged superstar soccer player who's a bit of a nasty

1720
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 16: piece of works.

1721
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: And here's what but here's how it works. I mean,

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01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 2: if all the Australian people or whoever it is, see

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: you kick a ball and score a goal, that's what

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Speaker 2: they think of you the moment they get to I

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Speaker 2: just think about this the other day with Grace Tame

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Speaker 2: and that T shirt, the Yeth Murdock t shirt standing

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Speaker 2: next to Alban Easy, the woman's Australian. You know, you

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Speaker 2: hand out the prizes and then all of a sudden, ah,

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Speaker 2: is that what you really like?

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Speaker 18: Eh?

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Speaker 16: I think that's correct. And I don't know that Sam

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Speaker 16: Kirk could ever get it back to the position that

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Speaker 16: she was in during that World Cup. I think she's

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Speaker 16: very much tarnished. And there's now a debate going on

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Speaker 16: whether she should be given back to captaincy of the

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Speaker 16: Matilda's I don't think that'll happen. It's a bit like

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Speaker 16: Sam paper Gate and Steve Smith. I mean it's very

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Speaker 16: hard to come back.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Now, take me to the lodge last

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Speaker 2: night drinks. What's going on?

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Speaker 11: All the tills were invited.

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Speaker 16: Now, these are the independents who say they're not a party,

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Speaker 16: but they are funded by a climate two hundred and

1744
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Speaker 16: Simon homes a court.

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Speaker 11: Suddenly, out of the.

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Speaker 16: Blue on a Monday, on Tuesday night, the Prime Minister

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Speaker 16: invites all of them to drinks at the lodge. The

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 16: invitation logged very late. Six point thirty was the invitation time.

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Speaker 16: It lasted for only an hour and a half. You

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Speaker 16: had people like Zoey Daniel and the Legras, Spender and

1751
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Speaker 16: Zalie Schegel, all of them were there. Monique Ryan and

1752
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 16: you can't see this in any other way than the

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 16: PM loading himself up with a drinks party at the lodge.

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Speaker 16: In the event that the election, which is going to

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Speaker 16: be held now, I think, ay, sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 16: I must apologize the interest rate cover this next Tuesday.

1757
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Speaker 16: I thought I said on Monday was yesterday. It's next Tuesday.

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Speaker 16: He's going to have to deal with these people in

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Speaker 16: a minority government. That's the most likely outcome, probably right

1760
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Speaker 16: now the election. So if you live in the lodge

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Speaker 16: and you're the PM and you want to impress a

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Speaker 16: bunch of people who you're going to have to deal

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Speaker 16: with if you have a hung Parliament, what better way

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Speaker 16: to do it than turn on some canterplace and champagne

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Speaker 16: down at the lodge.

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Speaker 10: On the law.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Hey, just quickly before you go. So I'm reading

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Speaker 2: yesterday about North Sydney and they're not the only one.

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Speaker 2: There's another council on Northern Beaches. I think North Sydney County.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is going on Australia generally eighty rates.

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Speaker 2: This is eighty seven percent over two years. What moron

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01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: thinks they can get away with that?

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Speaker 16: I wish I hadn't raised it because I think what's

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Speaker 16: going to happen here now is Victorian councils are going

1775
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 16: to look at this and go, well, you beauty. If

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 16: they can get away with it there, we can get

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Speaker 16: away with it here. North Sydney Council is a little

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01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 16: bit of an outlier because they decided to renovate that

1779
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Speaker 16: beautiful swimming pulled down on the edge of the harbor

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Speaker 16: next to Lunar Park and the thing's been going. The

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Speaker 16: renovation has been going for four years. That have could

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Speaker 16: take four years, I don't know. I haven't got the

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Speaker 16: exact cost off the top of my head. That has

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Speaker 16: ballooned out by more than two hundred percent the cost

1785
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Speaker 16: of it. It's sending the council broke and they believe

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Speaker 16: the only way to do it is to up the

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Speaker 16: rates by that amount, which is outrageous. Northern Beaches of

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Speaker 16: Sydney have done the same thing. I think other councils

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Speaker 16: will be looking at this going new beauty. I think

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Speaker 16: we can do this, which is outrageous because from a

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Speaker 16: Victorian point of your councils, a repairing pot, old roads,

1792
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Speaker 16: your rubbish collection might or might not happen. They don't

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Speaker 16: do the basic things they're supposed to do, and I

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Speaker 16: think there'd be complete revolution if they tried to do

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Speaker 16: it in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: You're a good blake to see next week. Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much and I do recommend the Jeffrey Robinson peace

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Speaker 2: out of the Morning Herald yesterday. I was a London judge.

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Speaker 2: Sam Kerr's case should never have gone to trial. It's

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Speaker 2: a very very good example of how if you get

1801
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: somebody who's a bit bitter and twisted, in this case

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01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: it was a policeman, is somehow allowed to spend an

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Speaker 2: astonishing amount of the public's money on what essentially is

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Speaker 2: a massive waste of time.

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Speaker 1: Eight forty five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Mike. Have you seen the full video of Sam Kerr

1808
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: at the police station on YouTube? It was absolutely disgusting, nasty,

1809
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Speaker 2: entitled and racist. She played every card, including the victim card. Yes, Ross,

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Speaker 2: of course I've seen it, but that doesn't make it illegal.

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Speaker 2: Just because you're a pratt doesn't mean you get charged

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Speaker 2: with it. In the fact you got found out not

1813
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Speaker 2: guilty proves beyond the shadow of it out. I would

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Speaker 2: have thoughtould wasted time. The whole thing was Mike Damian

1815
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Speaker 2: O'Connor labor MP drove attractor up the steps of Parliament

1816
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Speaker 2: are nineteen years ago, Carl wrong. And so this is

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Speaker 2: how things become things that never really happened.

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Speaker 12: There was a land drove attractor though right, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: A landrove attractor that it was a massy Ferguson. So

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Speaker 2: the point of it is it was Shane A. Dern

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Speaker 2: who won the by election, if you remember. But Damian

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Speaker 2: and O'Connor never drove the tractor. And I wasn't even

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Speaker 2: referring to the tractor. I was referring to an alleged

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Speaker 2: event with a land drover in the early part of

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Speaker 2: the nineteen hundreds.

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Speaker 12: Year ninety. It was supposed to be was it forty eight?

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Speaker 12: I think so?

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Speaker 20: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Never happened? According to Jerry urban Myth. They went to

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Speaker 2: the library, couldn't find it.

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Speaker 12: I'm saying, no, wonder if Seymour even did it.

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Speaker 2: Now exactly did he do it?

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Speaker 16: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Really there?

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Speaker 12: And also is going up two steps? Is that really

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Speaker 12: driving it up?

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Speaker 2: The steps? The steps?

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Speaker 9: Was it?

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Speaker 12: I was saying to say.

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Speaker 17: Before that, you know, in terms of the amount of

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Speaker 17: trouble you get into, it should be how many steps

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Speaker 17: you go up, like like all the way up.

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Speaker 2: All the way up? Fired, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 12: But he got two two steps, So that's like two

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Speaker 12: steps amount of trouble.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty It's with the police, is it? And what

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Speaker 2: are they going to do about it? Mordi, Mike, can

1848
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Speaker 2: you add a car segment? To the show talk classic

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Speaker 2: current market trends. Cheers, No, I can't. I wouldn't mind it.

1850
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Speaker 2: But if I get time one day, I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: about my current car dilemma, which is involving me inheriting

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Speaker 2: an old car and needing to find a lot of

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Speaker 2: parts around the world that don't exist. But I don't

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Speaker 2: have time to tell you about that. I do have

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: time to tell you that we're a little more corrupt

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Speaker 2: than we used to be. And like the sell' who

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Speaker 2: we talked about earlier on this morning, each year a

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Speaker 2: reporter's put out. This year it's a corruption report. We've

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Speaker 2: slipped to fourth, which, under normal circumstances and all things considered,

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Speaker 2: I would have thought it's not bad because a lot

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Speaker 2: of countries in the world, and fourth isn't bad. Number

1862
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Speaker 2: one in the world is Denmark, isn't it always Finland?

1863
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Speaker 2: Number two? That's that Scandinavian thing, A lot of salmon,

1864
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Speaker 2: a lot of vodka and hot tups. I think that

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Speaker 2: leads to lack of corruption. I think there's a link there.

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Speaker 2: Number three Singapore or Singapore overtook us to become slightly

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Speaker 2: less corrupt than we are. We're number four. Some of

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Speaker 2: the points they make I think are interesting. Lack of

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Speaker 2: transparency about lobbying. I think that's genuine use of urgency.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's true. Issues of party financing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're never going to get around that, really, are you.

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Speaker 2: You know, every time they change the rules, I think

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Speaker 2: about changing the rules, it comes back to do you

1874
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: want the state to fund all the parties? And the

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01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: answers know so, therefore someone's going to fund them, So

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01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: what are the rules? And then ensues the argument limitations

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Speaker 2: on the scope of the Official Information Act. I didn't

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Speaker 2: think there was a limitation. I mean, every manners dog

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Speaker 2: uses the Official Information Act at nauseum. Corruption and public

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Speaker 2: procurement and contracting. Seen a bit of that at local level,

1881
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Speaker 2: immigration cases, including migrant exploitation. The story about that in

1882
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Speaker 2: the paper this morning. Are you still used word paper? Hey? Ass?

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Speaker 2: From the paper this morning, isn't it financial institutions were

1884
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Speaker 2: not adequately identifying risks around transacting with politically exposed persons.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. The story this

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01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: morning was some poor migrant was exploited by a member

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Speaker 2: of their own family in play and paid five dollars

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Speaker 2: an hour that's called pocket money, isn't it isn't that

1889
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Speaker 2: every parent's job basically to do that, but once they

1890
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 2: become adults it gets a bit illegal. Nine minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa News

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Speaker 1: togs Head been now just got.

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Speaker 2: A note and from the Drive for Hearts team. This

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01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: is the probably the most talked about land drover and

1896
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Speaker 2: the history of land drivers since Seymour's scenario. Donations to

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01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 2: our charity to help prevent rheumatic heart disease have really

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Speaker 2: picked up, So that's encouraging. Craig Irwin's behind that, so

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited for you. So I've nothing goods come

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Speaker 2: out of it from media ranks. The media needs to

1901
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 2: move on from that stuff. I feel Luxeon's frustration around

1902
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: the side shows. There was a time in this country

1903
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not against a side show. Who doesn't love

1904
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: a side show and that's kind of fun, But the

1905
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: media don't have a sense of humor, and at some

1906
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: point you've got to get a sense of humor and

1907
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: realize that that Seymour, like him or not politically, is

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01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: one of those guys who does some stuff for the

1909
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: sake of doing it because he's a fun guy. That's

1910
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Speaker 2: just what it is. And driving up a land driver upsteps.

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Speaker 2: Come on, ask yourself, you would do it? You know

1912
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Speaker 2: you would, And so he's like us, so you know,

1913
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Speaker 2: stop taking yourself so damn seriously. So if they've got

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Speaker 2: some more money out of it, fantastic five minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Now trending now with MS Warehouse The Real House of Fragrances.

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Speaker 2: You're driving though. Mark Tapper Very Sadley has died. He

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Speaker 2: was just forty four years old. Former rally driver, multiple

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Speaker 2: rallies to will drive News Little Rally Champion back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, first key to Rid the Pirelli

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Speaker 2: Star Driver Award of eight before he went on to

1921
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Speaker 2: competing the wr See the tributes to Flying Hayden Padden

1922
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: of course Motorsport New Zealand plenty of others. There's the

1923
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: ironic moment in one of the videos that's doing in

1924
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 2: the rounds is actually one of Mark's crashes. So this

1925
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: is the New Zealand Rally for twenty ten. He's leading

1926
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: the rally at this particular point until he turns a

1927
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 2: corner and he sees the spectator mooning him.

1928
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Speaker 22: Five right minus doesn't fall, they find it, don't go

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Speaker 22: why clip five sex right and short thirty the short

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Speaker 22: clift plus thirty five left don't go ye plus.

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Speaker 2: Looks right minor.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 2: You can see why. Of all the sports, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know you can. You can admire people to drive

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Speaker 2: around the track and stuff, but to do that on

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Speaker 2: a cow on rebel is quite something. And that's before

1937
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Speaker 2: someone gets his ass.

1938
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Speaker 10: I've always saw it.

1939
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Speaker 17: Yeah, the navigator shouting out those directions. How much can

1940
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Speaker 17: that positively help?

1941
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a good question, a lot as

1942
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Speaker 2: the answer. But I don't understand, and he didn't and

1943
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: he didn't warn him.

1944
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Speaker 12: He didn't say around the next corner.

1945
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Speaker 2: This is the guy d write three long ass outs.

1946
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Speaker 2: He didn't say, ah, dear, But well, sad news, very

1947
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: sad news. Mark Tapa and Tapa has done at the edge.

1948
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Speaker 2: Put it for But if you go back to two

1949
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, very young men, when he was driving

1950
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Speaker 2: this wasn't he right? That's us done for the day.

1951
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Speaker 2: I only have done enough damage good news as I've

1952
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Speaker 2: had the boss look at the how to log in

1953
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Speaker 2: at the Christie's. I'm in, I'm in, and so the

1954
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Speaker 2: auctions in the next twenty four hours, so we'll keep

1955
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Speaker 2: you posted on that. Happy Days.

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