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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duplic elan drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected news.

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Speaker 1: Tom said, b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: the NATS are going to finally give us their argument

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Speaker 3: for why they're going to kill the Treaty Principal's Bell,

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Speaker 3: which by the way, is being quite contentiously debated. For

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Speaker 3: the first time. We'll speak to Paul Goldsmith about that,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Bailey, the Minister, on how he's going to fix

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Speaker 3: the insurance system to help us out, and also the

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Speaker 3: Air New Zealand boss on the new safety video.

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Speaker 1: Together Dupless the lan.

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Speaker 3: Here's some good news. If you don't like the idea

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Speaker 3: of people free loading on other taxpayers, the ID has finally,

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Speaker 3: it would appear, started cracking down properly on people who

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Speaker 3: don't want to pay back their student loans. Now what's

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Speaker 3: happened is they've doubled this is the ID. They've doubled

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Speaker 3: the size of the team that chases Kiwi's living overseas

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Speaker 3: to pay the money back. They've got debt collectors in

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Speaker 3: Australia in and when any of these people with a

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Speaker 3: debt of more than one thousand dollars comes back to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. One hundred percent of them, not twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent anymore. One hundred percent of them can expect to

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Speaker 3: hear from the ID. And it's a but I particularly

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Speaker 3: like if the debt is big enough, and these people

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Speaker 3: are really showing they've got a habit of not wanting

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Speaker 3: to pay the money back so they don't get to

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Speaker 3: leave the country again. So might think they're coming here

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Speaker 3: for a little Hollybob, come to visit the family. Get

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Speaker 3: stuck now, aren't ye, because you owe us some money.

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Speaker 3: It looks like this crackdown is actually starting to work

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Speaker 3: because seven thousand names have been given to the debt

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Speaker 3: collectors and nausey, and about a thousand of these dudes

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Speaker 3: are starting to pay the money back already. Now, I

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Speaker 3: do not have any sympathy for these people whatsoever, and

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Speaker 3: for the crackdown they're about to experience, because we are

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Speaker 3: talking about a lot of money here, two point two

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Speaker 3: billion dollars that will go a hell of a long

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Speaker 3: way in this country right now, because we're broke, and

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Speaker 3: these are not kids that we're talking about, right These

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Speaker 3: aren't predominantly twenty one year old graduates. Graduates just off

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Speaker 3: onto a little oe, just forgot, whoops, forgot to pay

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Speaker 3: the money back. Most of the debt is owed by

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Speaker 3: people in their forties and their fifties. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 3: you haven't paid your debt back for thirty years. That's deliberate,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. How many how many times you just whoops

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Speaker 3: forget to pay your money back? These guys, I reckon

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Speaker 3: are the ultimate and freeloaders, because't they live in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: They get a really nice little education for free, and

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Speaker 3: while the rest of us are paying our money back,

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Speaker 3: staying to contribute to the country, paying our taxes, this lot,

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Speaker 3: with their little free education to skip the joint and

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Speaker 3: went and lived somewhere else, paid the taxes to somebody else,

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Speaker 3: didn't pay any of the money back. Seventy percent of

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Speaker 3: And if anybody to their loans, and if any of

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Speaker 3: anybody should be paying up, it's actually not the people

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Speaker 3: in the country where was he working or helping the

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Speaker 3: Very pleased to see idea is finally going to get

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Speaker 3: our money back so we can actually use it to

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Speaker 3: build this place back up again for.

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Speaker 1: Us together, Dupercy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: You are welcome to weigh in, and ID is going

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Speaker 3: to be with us after five, and we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: have a nice chat, really nice chat about how hard

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Speaker 3: they're going to make life other people. Nine two nine

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Speaker 3: two is the text number. Now, Donald Trump, he is

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Speaker 3: carrying on with his appointment blitz. At the moment he's confirmed,

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Speaker 3: he wants to make the Florida Senator Marco Rubio the

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Speaker 3: new Secretary of State. Our own foreign minister Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: has immediately tweeted his congratulations. In response, Republican strategist Matt

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Speaker 3: Terrell was Marco Rubio's chief of staff. Matt, welcome back, Hey,

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Speaker 3: great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Now, Matt, tell me, you obviously know Marco Rubio. So

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Speaker 3: what's his position on Ukraine? Is he going to look

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Speaker 4: Well, Look, first of all, I think he's a great

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Speaker 4: pick and great choice for secretary of State. This is

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Speaker 4: certainly someone's well qualified for the position. And to your question, look,

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Speaker 4: ultimately I think it's'd be up to President like Trump

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Speaker 4: in terms of what the position will be of the administration.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you go into these.

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Speaker 4: Positions in a cabinet, in an administration, it's really joining

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Speaker 4: the agenda of the president United States, or as you're saying,

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Speaker 4: to that end, I can tell you this much, President

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Speaker 4: like Trump has been out there discussing the importance of

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Speaker 4: really negotiation right now, bringing people to the negotiation table,

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Speaker 4: particularly relates to Ukraine and Russia. Beyond that, I think

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Speaker 4: we're just have to wait and see, frankly, once President

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Speaker 4: like Trump takes office to see how that really all

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Speaker 4: takes shape. But my good tells me President like Trump

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Speaker 4: is working down in Florida day in and day out

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Speaker 4: trying to put the pieces together of what that will

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Speaker 4: look like, particularly relates to Ukraine and Russia, and how

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Speaker 4: much that maps with what Center Rubio said in the

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Speaker 4: past on the issue. He has brought up that negotiation

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Speaker 4: with respect to Ukraine and Russia as being really the path,

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Speaker 4: as many have argued, particularly the Republican side, if you will,

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Speaker 4: as the path for ending that conflict. So we'll see

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Speaker 4: how that all unfolds. But as these cabinet selections, was

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Speaker 4: for secretary of State or other positions. You really are

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Speaker 4: joining the agenda of now president like Trump and soon

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Speaker 3: Yeah, also quite strongly in favor of Taiwan. So does

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Speaker 3: that suggest that we're China to make a move now,

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Speaker 3: quite unlikely, I would say under a Trump presidency. But

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Speaker 3: were they to make a move on Taiwan, these two

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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: we want to ask that question of the administration coming

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Speaker 4: in here, but I think to answer your question or broadly,

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Speaker 4: not just about Taiwan, but but just in general here,

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Speaker 4: I do think one of the big themes that was

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Speaker 4: interesting to note that then candidate Trump during the campaigns

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Speaker 4: new wars and really trying to ensure that that does

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Speaker 4: not take place. And frankly, he campaigned on peace. So

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Speaker 4: to that end, I think you're likely going to see

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Speaker 4: you know, the Secretary of State and other key individuals

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Speaker 4: that within his foreign policy team really lean in a

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Speaker 4: negotiation and trying to ensure that there are no new

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Speaker 4: whether it's related to you know, the Middle East policy,

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Speaker 4: these are all going to be on the table here

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Speaker 4: in terms of discussions on foreign policy front. I think

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Speaker 4: you're not going to see him, being President elect Trump

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Speaker 3: How do you reckon these two being Marco Rubio and

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump would likely want to end the war involving Israel.

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Speaker 3: Would would they be of a mind to force Israel

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Speaker 3: to just give it up and stop what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: or would they be more inclined to tell Israel go ahead,

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Speaker 3: have a crackit around and ended that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I hate to be redundant, but I do think we're

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Speaker 4: have to wait and see on that one. I see

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Speaker 4: that because we don't have a whole lot of details

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Speaker 4: yet on that. You know, during the campaign, Trill, it

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Speaker 4: was domestic issues that really dominated the race. It was

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Speaker 4: the economy, inflation, boris kit and so when we did

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Speaker 4: talk about the foreign policy issues such as you know,

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Speaker 4: was president like Trump talking about negotiation, talk about wanting

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Speaker 4: to end these wars on you know, once he gets

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Speaker 4: in office, frankly saying he would end them the first

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Speaker 4: be mindful of that, of that kind of discussion on

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Speaker 4: the campaign trail. The real question but you know, the

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Speaker 4: what is President Trump going to do? And I do

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Speaker 4: think it's going to be him right now in this

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Speaker 4: the foreign policy stage. That's just I don't have that information,

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Speaker 4: but I'm just telling you that's my assumption, or that

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Speaker 4: he's trying to get ahead of this because you know,

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Speaker 4: as a president, time is your most valuable asset. You

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Speaker 4: have so much time, and when it comes into entering

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Speaker 4: the first one hundred days for example, of his administration,

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Speaker 4: domestications are gonna be key. But on the foreign policy front, Israel, Ukraine, Russia, Iran,

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Speaker 4: those are gonna be key, key themes and key issues

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Speaker 4: are going to pop up here. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: to answer your question, except for I think he's gonn

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Speaker 4: My gut tells me lean into negotiation and try to

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Speaker 4: end wars, and that's start new wars by bringing leaders

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Speaker 4: in negotiation table. We saw him do that, for example

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Speaker 4: a lot of Americans will point to that and remember

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Speaker 4: those kind of situations where he's at the negotiation table.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what they shape here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff. Matt, Listen, thanks very much for giving

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Speaker 3: us as much insight as you were able to. That's

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Speaker 3: Matt Terrell, who's the Republican strategist, former chief of staff

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Speaker 3: to Marco Rubia. So just in a nutshell, what you

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Speaker 3: should expect is that Marco Rubio forces Ukraine to settle

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Speaker 3: and is going to freak China out. China won't try

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Speaker 3: and take Taiwan while these guys are in charge. Listen,

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Speaker 3: just back here in New Zealand, there have been absolute

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Speaker 3: and cleared the public gallery because what happened is they

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Speaker 3: were supposed to vote on the Treaty Principles Bill, which

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Speaker 3: what's been happening is that since they started debating this

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Speaker 3: to get themselves kicked out of Parliament. They've just been barracking, heckling,

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Speaker 7: The house is the House is suspended until the ringing

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Speaker 3: Barrisop has been watching the lot. He'll give us a

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Speaker 3: The Parliament's been suspended. Can I have an update please? Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is the update. Barry Soaper is going to be

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Speaker 3: But yes, Parliament has been suspended because of the hucker.

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Speaker 9: Marti Party, Party, wonderful Asians, Marti Pacifica were all there.

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Speaker 9: They gave me a clear message, mister speaker, and I

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Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: Here the dupless Alan drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 3: Hey, I have got to keep you across what Andrew

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on News Talk's Eddy Drive.

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Speaker 3: So Joe Biden and Donald Trump have had their big

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Speaker 3: Pierre's it all went very smoothly.

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Speaker 10: Chief of Staff Jeff Signs and incoming Chief of Staff

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Speaker 10: Suzie Wiles joined the meeting. It was substantive meeting and

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Speaker 1: And the world.

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Speaker 3: Albow has arrived in Lima for APEC. Unlike our own

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Speaker 11: Australia will always support free and fair trade. We're trading nations.

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Speaker 3: And finally, actor John Krasinski has been named the Sixiest

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But sure international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, peace

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Speaker 14: a bit of wriggle room around that head because he's

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Speaker 14: indicated it depends what the budget looks like. Inflation is

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Speaker 14: obviously the number one priority, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 14: he's backing down on that one because I reckon he's

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Speaker 14: probably seen and sniffed in the breeze that there could

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Speaker 14: be a bit of an attack campaign that was meant

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Speaker 14: to be coming from Labor that they were going to

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Speaker 14: run in the lead up to the election, that they

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Speaker 14: were going to say he's all about the rich and

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Speaker 14: helping the rich and trying to get the rich and

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Speaker 14: the wealthy people more money back in their pockets.

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Speaker 5: So I think he's just he's just got a bit of.

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Speaker 14: A word that there could be a preemptive strike against

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Speaker 14: the Liberal Party in their tactic of a scare campaign.

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff. Hey did you see that guy who got

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Speaker 3: really angry at the hand gluers in Melbourne?

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, And you know what, I don't blame him

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Speaker 14: because it seems to have become sort of the capital

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Speaker 14: of protesting in the Southern hemisphere in Melbourne, so you know,

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Speaker 14: his extinction rebellion mob this time deciding that they're going

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Speaker 14: to shut down roads in Melbourne, Punt Road in Richmond

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Speaker 14: at about half past seven. As you said, people they're

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Speaker 14: protesting about climate change, the COP twenty nine summit, and

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Speaker 14: obviously the Prime Minister want to try and bring that here.

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Speaker 14: So as you correctly identified, there traving at a standstill.

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Speaker 5: People glue their hands to the roads. How stupid are they?

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Speaker 5: Head up? What's that glue made out of?

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Speaker 14: And when you rip somebody's hand off the road, good

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Speaker 14: luck going to the hospital and going to you know what?

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Speaker 3: They don't they pretend to their hands. Their hands are

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Speaker 3: not always actually glued.

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Speaker 5: But they'd like to pretend they I love.

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Speaker 14: We had one here in Perth recently where they glued

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Speaker 14: their hands to a piece of art in the gallery

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Speaker 14: and that person was a goose as well.

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Speaker 3: Did they actually.

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Speaker 14: Or they did in Perth or they tried to with

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Speaker 14: those perspects over the top of the thing.

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Speaker 5: But this doesn't help their cause, Heather.

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Speaker 14: This just makes people angry and outraged and they don't

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Speaker 14: listen to the message that they're trying to convey. If

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Speaker 14: you just had a civil debate, I'm sure you might

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Speaker 14: take some of their points on board. But I don't

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Speaker 14: know something about Melbourne protesters at the moment.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's in the water down there.

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Speaker 3: Melbourne deserves it, though, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like victoriause they breed.

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Speaker 3: They're all like this. They breed these people so they

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Speaker 3: can have these people question for you, though, Oli, because

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Speaker 3: we had the hand glue is they They were infestation

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Speaker 3: for a while here and in our capital city sort

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Speaker 3: of late late last year early this year, and it

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Speaker 3: got to the point where the judges actually had a

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Speaker 3: guts full and started chucking them in jail. What's happened

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Speaker 3: to your guys? Have they been are they before the courts?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: Well, and they do, and they chuck him in they

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Speaker 14: chuck him in jail. You remember the one in Sydney

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Speaker 14: over the Harbor Bridge. They chucked him in jail. But

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Speaker 14: then you know, psychiatric assessment said, I no, no, no, you

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Speaker 14: know this person has a has mental health issues because

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Speaker 14: of climate change, so you can't keep them behind bus.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, well that's a good one to have. I

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Speaker 3: always I like to collect these little things. Should I

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Speaker 3: ever find myself in court, I'm just going to rip

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Speaker 3: out all of these dumb excuses as well. Hey, thank

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Speaker 3: you for that. I really appreciated. Olie has always took

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Speaker 3: to you. Soon mate, that's Oliver Peterson. Six PR Perth

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Speaker 3: Live presenter Jerry Brownlee has just had a chat to

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Speaker 3: everybody about the house resuming.

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Speaker 7: If anyone interrupts proceedings from the galleries, they will be

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Speaker 7: removed and not permitted to return.

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Speaker 6: One.

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Speaker 15: It commits to protecting the rights of everyone.

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Speaker 3: And hold on, here we go. Here's the updated version.

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Speaker 7: The matter of misconduct appallingly disrespectful conduct inside the house

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Speaker 7: premeditated action to disrupt the house by one of its

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Speaker 7: members is gross. The disorder disorderly and I nam Hannah

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Speaker 7: Ralfiti might be cluck. Therefore, the question is that Hannah

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Speaker 7: writes he might be cluck be suspended from the service

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Speaker 7: of the House.

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Speaker 3: Now they've taken the vote and the Treaty Principle's bill

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Speaker 3: has passed the first reading, so we'll we'll get the

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Speaker 3: update from Barrisoba winners with us really quickly. Of the

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Speaker 3: insurance we're going to talk to Andrew Bailey, as I

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Speaker 3: told you before earlier, We're going to talk to him

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Speaker 3: in about half an hour's time. What is going on

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Speaker 3: with insurance at the moment. And you'll know this if

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Speaker 3: you've got insured, any kind of insurance, is that you

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Speaker 3: are responsible for telling your insurance company absolutely everything that

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Speaker 3: they need to know, as if you are some sort

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Speaker 3: of an expert and know what they need to know.

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Speaker 3: And if you don't share absolutely everything they need to know,

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Speaker 3: you could find yourself in trouble later down the line

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Speaker 3: when you make a claim. Andrew Bailey is proposing to

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Speaker 3: change the law so the onus is no longer on you,

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Speaker 3: but actually on the insurance company to ask you the

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Speaker 3: right questions to extract the information that they need to know.

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Speaker 3: So if they don't have that in information, their problem,

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Speaker 3: not yours. And I'm loving the sound of this Quarter.

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Speaker 2: To politics with centrics. Credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Barry, so seeing your political correspondence with us. Hey Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. Right, run us through what just happened.

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Speaker 16: Well, I've never seen anything like it in more than

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Speaker 16: forty years of covering Parliament. The Speaker lost control absolutely,

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Speaker 16: and it's by no fault of his own. It's by

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Speaker 16: the fault of the MPs in the debating chamber and

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Speaker 16: in particular Rawu Y why to Tea. He's named Hannah

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Speaker 16: Rafiti Mapi Clark. She's that very young MP for the

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Speaker 16: Maldi party. She led off what was going into the

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Speaker 16: body of the Parliament and towards David Seymour. Rawui why

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Speaker 16: to Tea was right there with her, and so was

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Speaker 16: Debbie Riwa Packer.

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Speaker 3: This is the hacker.

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Speaker 16: They went right up to David seymour desk, very intimidating.

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Speaker 16: I was watching it, and you know, it was much

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Speaker 16: worse than what Juliannejenter did with Matt Doosey. And she

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Speaker 16: was brought before the Privileges Committee when the House resumed

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Speaker 16: after a considerable time, David Seymour wanted essentially white to

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Speaker 16: tea to be sent to the Privileges Committee as well,

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Speaker 16: and I'm sure more action will be taken because Parliament

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Speaker 16: can't be like that. It became just a mess and

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Speaker 16: out of order. The Opposition set out to embarrass the

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Speaker 16: Prime Minister in question time before all this unfolded, before

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Speaker 16: the big debate. Nikola Willis, she was standing in for

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Speaker 16: Chris Luckson today. She was none too kind about the

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Speaker 16: bills sponsored David Seymour.

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Speaker 8: Here she is.

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Speaker 17: I do not think it makes sense or will be

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Speaker 17: enduring for Parliament to simply set down its interpretation of

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Speaker 17: the treaty and then seek a majority of the public

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Speaker 17: to confirm it and referend him. That is a crude

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Speaker 17: way to handle a very delicate subject.

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Speaker 18: What does it say about his leadership when his soon

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Speaker 18: to be deputy Prime minister accused him of being quote

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Speaker 18: clearly nervous end quote about the bill and the National

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Speaker 18: Party of being quote afraid of taking on hard issues

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Speaker 18: end quote, with him doing nothing to dissuade the public

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Speaker 18: of that notion.

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Speaker 17: David Seymour is responsible for his own statements, and in

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Speaker 17: this case they are wholly.

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Speaker 16: Incorrect, So there's no love lost between David Seymour and

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Speaker 16: the National Party. But then it was down to the

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Speaker 16: fiery debate. David Seymour as the bill's sponsor. He kicked

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Speaker 16: it off and was calm and considered, I've got to say,

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Speaker 16: compared with what followed, He's Seymour, followed by Labor fire

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Speaker 16: brand Willie Jackson.

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Speaker 15: The commencement claused is the principles of the spill only

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Speaker 15: come into force if a majority vote for it to

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Speaker 15: do so and referendum. The big change share is the

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Speaker 15: idea that each person has a say on the rules

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Speaker 15: they live under. Even people who are convinced this bill

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Speaker 15: will not become law are determined to stop it being discussed,

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Speaker 15: and that's why you hear so much outspoken criticism of it.

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Speaker 15: They know that whether or not this bill becomes law

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Speaker 15: in this term of Parliament, it's only a matter of

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Speaker 15: time before its logic prevails. That's why they say kill

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Speaker 15: the bill, because they can't kill the idea behind the bill.

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Speaker 9: The government's own lawyers, mister Speaker who said that this

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Speaker 9: poll will undermine maldi rights.

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Speaker 13: But still David Seymour.

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Speaker 9: Persists with this disgusting piece of legislation. I said some

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Speaker 9: time ago that he was the most dangerous politician in

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Speaker 9: New Zealand and that has come to pass. Listens to you,

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Speaker 9: David Seymour, You f your hatred and misinformation in this country.

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Speaker 9: You bring out the worst in New Zealanders. You should

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Speaker 9: be ashamed of yourself and you are alive.

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Speaker 8: See.

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Speaker 16: And he was pulled up on that, and he's kicked

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Speaker 16: out of the House for it. Rivalry white tea. He

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Speaker 16: clearly stirred up those in the public galleries and opposition

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Speaker 16: parties with this contribution.

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Speaker 13: To tease your white thing is superior to any person

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Speaker 13: and any law if it created in this house at

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Speaker 13: are seemed to be pulling the strings and running the

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Speaker 13: country like the KKK with a swipe card to the beehive.

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Speaker 13: And Luxai doesn't even care there's a.

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Speaker 5: Post in his chair.

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Speaker 13: Uncle one gave consent to parking to governor over themselves.

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Speaker 13: They've assumed governance over us. When will we begin to

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Speaker 13: assume governance our house?

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Speaker 16: See?

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Speaker 8: And to me, you know, that's the sort of rhetoric is.

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Speaker 16: Worrying to say the least. Now the Maori Party leadership

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Speaker 16: joined by their members and I've got to say Labors

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Speaker 16: to came out of his seat. They launched to do

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Speaker 16: a deafening harker and that, and they approached David.

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Speaker 3: S Labors Labors to.

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Speaker 16: Yep, he sorry, carry on, sorry, wrong name, and the

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Speaker 16: speaker he lost all control and suspended the house. Here's

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Speaker 16: the racket that followed from the public galleries.

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Speaker 19: The gallery is to be cleared.

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Speaker 16: I've never seen hatred like that in Parliament before. With

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Speaker 16: the Speaker throwing up his hands as you heard at

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Speaker 16: the beginning there and walking out. It's an absolute disgrace.

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Speaker 3: Barry, thank you appreciate your time on that one. That's

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast, you.

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Speaker 20: Can hold the presses. Because the government has released a

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Speaker 20: new framework for public private partnerships and the Labor Party

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Speaker 20: is on board with it's infrastructure Minister Christmasship is with us.

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Speaker 20: The relevance of having Labor on board how significant.

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Speaker 21: We're bit surprised, but I am pleased by it.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to build greater.

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Speaker 2: By partisnership around infrastructure because that's what the country desperately needs.

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Speaker 1: Why are we no good at them?

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Speaker 21: Well, we're not good at them because I would argue

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Speaker 21: that we haven't developed sufficient expertise inside the Crown to

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Speaker 21: make sure that the government is a is a good

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Speaker 21: client on our side of it. And that's one of

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Speaker 21: the things we're changing with the.

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Speaker 6: Development of this new National Infrastructure Agency.

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Speaker 20: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: the Raindrobe of the Laugh You Stalk zb hither.

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Speaker 3: There are some great examples this afternoon in Parliament of

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Speaker 3: why I'll be looking at leaving this country. This is

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Speaker 3: why I keep saying to you the Labour Party needs

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Speaker 3: to disassociate itself from what the Marti Party is up

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Speaker 3: to because people Middle New Zealand does not like this,

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Speaker 3: does not like this kind of carry on. It's just

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Speaker 3: too it's just it feels too rude, to disruptive, too upsetting,

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Speaker 3: to visitive. I don't know anyway this for them to decide,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Paul Goldsmith, National Party Justice

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Speaker 3: Minister who spoke as Luxon wasn't there today. The Prome

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Speaker 3: Minister wasn't there. He spoke on and basically Prome Minister's stead.

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Speaker 3: He'll be with us after the News Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: We need to Yeah, we need to talk about our

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. I'm gonna get to that just really quickly.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand safety video. Now, if you haven't seen this,

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Speaker 3: safety videos out this time featuring Steven Adams and Tom

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Speaker 3: Sainsbury and Valerie Adams, so you you got a cast

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Speaker 3: of some pretty big names in there. I look, I

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Speaker 3: watched it like whatever, you know, whatever, It's fine. I

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Speaker 3: don't really you know, but I feel like we can

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Speaker 3: put to bed the argument about whether in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: should should actually like whether it sucks or not. Right,

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Speaker 3: surely we can just like that argument's finished, and whether

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand needs to do these things because clearly

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Speaker 3: this is the New Zealand's thing. Now they're gonna always

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Speaker 3: do gimmicky, cringey safety videos and yay for them. Let

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Speaker 3: them do it right. So we don't have to love it.

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Speaker 3: We just have to watch it, that's all. So I

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Speaker 3: feel like we're not going to talk about that with

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Speaker 3: Greg the CEO when he's with us, but he'll leave

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Speaker 3: with us after half past five. News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dooless the alum drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected a news talks.

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Speaker 3: B Good afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: The Treaty Principals Bill has finally this afternoon passed its

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Speaker 3: first reading, but scenes earlier Parliament was suspended after opposition parties,

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Speaker 3: particularly the Maori Party and people in the public gallery,

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Speaker 3: interrupted the vote with a huge hucker. Willie Jackson from

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Speaker 3: Labor got himself thrown out after calling David c a

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Speaker 3: liar in refusing to withdrawd apologize. Prime Minister Chris Luxon

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Speaker 3: wasn't there to speak, but National's Paul Goldsmith, who's obviously

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Speaker 3: the Justice Minister, had that job for him. Paul, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 3: how are you very well? Thank you? So it seems

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Speaker 3: to me National's argument, which we've finally got, is basically

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Speaker 3: twofold Number one, this bill is too simplistic for dealing

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Speaker 3: with a complex issue. Number two, it's distracting you guys

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Speaker 3: from getting New Zealand back on track. Is that about right?

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Speaker 22: No, Partly I would expand on that and to say yes,

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Speaker 22: it's a crude way to handle a very sensitive topic.

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Speaker 22: This thirty years of legislation that would be overturned in

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Speaker 22: the stroke of a pen. But secondly, our plan, we

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Speaker 22: believe is better because there are issues that need to

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Speaker 22: be dealt with in terms of where the treaty sits

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Speaker 22: today and how we navigate our way between the desire

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Speaker 22: to honor the treaty, but also you know, not move

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Speaker 22: away from the sick expectations of people living in a

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Speaker 22: modern democratic society.

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Speaker 1: And so our view is that we've got to do that.

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Speaker 22: Issue by issue, which is what we're doing on the

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Speaker 22: Marine Coastal Area when we're talking about Marie Health Authority,

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Speaker 22: all those things issue by issue, rather than tristry to

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Speaker 22: do it with one sweep of the pen on one bill,

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Speaker 22: which is too simplistic.

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Speaker 3: Do you broadly agree or at all agree with David

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Speaker 3: Seymore when he says the courts have gone way too

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Speaker 3: activist on this in deciding that the principles of partnership exist.

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Speaker 22: For example, look, there's a Minister of Justice. It's a

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Speaker 22: good way to get sectors to criticize the judiciary directly.

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Speaker 22: I think that the onus on Parliament is to be

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Speaker 22: clear about what we mean in legislation. And so you know,

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Speaker 22: one of the things that I'm going to be focusing

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Speaker 22: on next year in terms of the Treaty is going

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Speaker 22: through all the twenty eight or so major references in

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Speaker 22: legislation to the Treaty and its principles, and going through

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Speaker 22: and being very clear about what we do and what

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Speaker 22: we don't mean. And that I think is the role

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Speaker 22: of Parliament to be clearer about what we mean.

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Speaker 12: Let me.

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Speaker 3: Level, the most egregious principle, at least from the Act

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Speaker 3: Party's point of view, is the principle that this is

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Speaker 3: a partip. Do you agree that the Treaty is a partnership?

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Speaker 22: Well, look that has been a legal sort of interpretation

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Speaker 22: put down in every over the past few years. But

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Speaker 22: what accectly that means in any given circumstances is a

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Speaker 22: debatable point. But the vaguer Parliament is and its legislation,

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Speaker 22: the more room for interpretation there is. And so that

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Speaker 22: precisely is what we want to be clear. You know,

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Speaker 22: when it comes to the Conservation Act and the Education

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Speaker 22: Act and they all got these, this is.

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Speaker 3: To the very heart of what the Act Party is saying. Right,

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Speaker 3: the courts are coming up with principles like this, and

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Speaker 3: then you and I go, okay, well, the principle exists,

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Speaker 3: but your interpretation of the principle is different to my

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Speaker 3: interpretation of the principle of partnership, which is not in

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Speaker 3: the treaty. This is a made up principle. And so

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Speaker 3: what the act party wants to do is be very

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Speaker 3: clear about what the principles are and what they mean.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some logic to that, isn't there.

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Speaker 22: Well, but the point is that this has been This

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Speaker 22: has not sort of developed a week or the week before.

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Speaker 22: It's been over thirty five years. And just to sort

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Speaker 22: of come along with one act wampa, you're gone, and

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Speaker 22: then put it to a referendum the majority will probably

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Speaker 22: you know, win, And that's no way to sort of

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Speaker 22: deal with what is a very sensitive and difficult topic.

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Speaker 22: And so our viewers, yes, address these issues. For the

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Speaker 22: best way to do it is issue by issue. So

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Speaker 22: you know, we're dealing with the marine and coastal space,

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Speaker 22: we're dealing with that, and we sort that out. Now,

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Speaker 22: if you're talking about the Rockland local government, you've got

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Speaker 22: to sort that out.

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Speaker 6: But just do it, Holess.

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Speaker 22: A bottlist just like that is not a recipe to

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Speaker 22: actually have sustainable sort of good relations and that's what

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Speaker 22: we want to achieve.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Paul. On another subject, does the media bill dead?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 22: I wouldn't say that, but we're working our way through that.

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Speaker 22: I've never said it was an easy or simple matter,

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Speaker 22: and so we haven't quite got to the situation where

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Speaker 22: we can bring it back to the house yet, but

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Speaker 22: as soon as I am able to let you know

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Speaker 22: about it.

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Speaker 3: I will, Yes, Google got you a barrel.

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Speaker 22: No, but we're dealing with, you know, a rapidly changing

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Speaker 22: media landscape and evolving international situation, and so I'm just

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Speaker 22: looking my way through what's the best outcome that we

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Speaker 22: can get for New Zealand and so well, you know,

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Speaker 22: we haven't got something to say.

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Speaker 3: We will good stuff. Hey, Paul, thank you very much

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Speaker 3: as always, Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister Heaver do for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: It seems that Inland Revenue is finally cracking down on

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Speaker 3: kiwis who now live overseas but aren't paying their student

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Speaker 3: loans back. IRD has doubled the size of its crackdown

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Speaker 3: team and it's giving names to deck collectors in Australia

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Speaker 3: to get the dollars back. Andrew Scott is the project

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Speaker 3: lead at IID for this and he's with us. Hey Andrew, Hey, right, Well,

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Speaker 3: now that you started handing over names to deck collectors

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Speaker 3: and cracking down what proportion of these people are actually

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Speaker 3: paying the money back.

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Speaker 23: So we provided names to our Australian deck collectors, seven

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Speaker 23: thousand of them earlier this year. So far a thousand

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Speaker 23: of those have paid their debt. It's either in full

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Speaker 23: or in part. So that's pretty good going so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and why I think one of the most interesting

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Speaker 3: things that you're going to do is if the debt

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Speaker 3: is big enough and the person has been tardy enough,

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Speaker 3: if they come back to New Zealand for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: and you guys get a hold of them, you will

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Speaker 3: arrest them and they will not be able to leave

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Speaker 3: the country. Is that right?

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Speaker 23: I guess there's two things there. There's about one hundred

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Speaker 23: and fifty people who yet we'd look if when they

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Speaker 23: come back to New Zealand, we'd be putting out a

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Speaker 23: warrant for the arrest, which means if they then tried

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Speaker 23: to leave the country, they'd be stopped. That's the extreme side.

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Speaker 23: On the other side, anybody who comes back to New

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Speaker 23: Zealand where they owe a thousand dollars or more outstanding

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Speaker 23: will be trying to get in contact with them.

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Speaker 3: So how big does the debt have to be for

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Speaker 3: you guys to arrest someone.

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Speaker 23: It's not really about the size of the debt, although

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Speaker 23: we're talking between tens of thousands up to over one

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Speaker 23: hundred thousand. It's really about whether they're engaging with us

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Speaker 23: or not. So if they're just ignoring all of our

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Speaker 23: communications or they're leaving us no way to get in

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Speaker 23: touch with them, then that's our last resort.

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Speaker 3: How do you stop them for leaving the country again?

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Speaker 3: Do you cancel their ability to leave?

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Speaker 23: Yeah? Essentially they turn up at the airport and when

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Speaker 23: they go to check in the the arresting officer is called.

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Speaker 3: And then in order to be able to leave again,

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Speaker 3: would they have to assure you that they are going

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Speaker 3: to start paying the money back.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, we'd have a negotiation about how they're going to

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Speaker 23: handle their debt, and that might mean an immediate part

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Speaker 23: of payment or or some agreement that gives us confidence

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Speaker 23: for that will be stuff.

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Speaker 3: Good on you? How much of this money two point

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Speaker 3: two these guys living overseas over two point two billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: How much of it do you reckon you can actually

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Speaker 3: realistically get back.

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Speaker 23: One of the things that people don't really know is

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Speaker 23: it's not twenty year old students who over this money

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Speaker 23: really for forty thousand to the people, there's one hundred

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Speaker 23: and ten thousand boroughs overseas for forty thousand of them,

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Speaker 23: more than they've had their loan for more than twenty years.

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Speaker 23: Ia Duly fifties, late forties. They've been ignoring it for

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Speaker 23: a long time. But we've got no ability to write

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Speaker 23: any of that off. So we're ramping up our activities

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Speaker 23: to find them, compel them, and be shops when they return.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Andrew, best of luck, love it, Andrew Scott

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Speaker 3: Iidy project lead Heather Goldsmith. Issue by issue will take

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Speaker 3: years and years, and in the meantime, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: will continue to apply their interpretation of the Treaty principles

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Speaker 3: and New Zealand will get left behind the rest of

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Speaker 3: the developed world. That's from Connell. I tend to agree

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Speaker 3: with that sentiment entirely. I'm not finished dealing with this issue,

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Speaker 3: so we're going to deal with it a little bit

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Speaker 3: more and just to take quarter past Heather, did Paul

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Speaker 3: Goldsmith just admit that this Treaty Principal's Bill would be

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Speaker 3: successful if it was put to a referendum. Yes, well,

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Speaker 3: spotted eighteen past five. Now the government's passed the law

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Speaker 3: to give us a better deal in insurance deals. Until now,

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Speaker 3: what's happened is if you've taken out an insurance policy,

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Speaker 3: it was your responsibility to tell your insurance company any

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Speaker 3: relevant information they needed to know. Now, because of this law,

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Speaker 3: they have to ask you specific questions about what they

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Speaker 3: need to know, and then you just have to answer

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Speaker 3: that question honestly. Andrew Bailey is the Minister of Commerce

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Speaker 3: and Consumer Affairs. Andrew, Hello, Hello, how are you going? Andrew?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Were you in the house for the drama today for

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Speaker 3: most of it? Yeah? Was that a bit full on?

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Speaker 12: I haven't seen anything like it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think needs to be done about that?

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Speaker 12: Well, obviously it's up to the Speaker and he chose

872
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 12: to suspend the house, so it's his call what he

873
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 12: should do and to bring the house back into order.

874
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 12: But I was very rowdy.

875
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: It was rowdy. Listen. This law is this basically to

876
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: stop what sometimes happens, which is that insurance companies refuse

877
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: to pay out to you because you forgot some tiny

878
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: little detail that they deem to be relevant.

879
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 12: Exactly.

880
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: So there's three parts that.

881
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 12: The first thing is no more getting when you have

882
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 12: to fill out a policy application, getting it in a

883
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 12: whole Legalese language. So it's a requirement insurance companies to

884
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 12: present the application form in an easy, doesn't send way.

885
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 12: The second thing is but that you've just said is

886
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 12: that it takes the guesswork out of it. You have

887
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 12: to honestly respond to stuff. But it's up to the

888
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 12: insurance company to ask you the right question, not for

889
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 12: you to anticipate. Do I put in that I had

890
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 12: tonsils out at five when I was five years old?

891
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 12: When you make an application which may or may not

892
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 12: be relevant. And the third thing is we've been much

893
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 12: clear about the remedies in the event that you inovertently

894
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 12: miss out a piece of information. So what is the

895
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 12: liability for the insurance company? And we've been very clear about.

896
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: That does this apply retrospectively? This law? So if I've

897
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: got existing oh so I need to go cancel all

898
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: my insurance policies and start them again.

899
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 12: Yep, you've entered into an agreement. So if you want

900
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 12: to be covered by this situation, you could go down

901
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 12: that course of action. But obviously this will come into

902
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 12: forces as you roll over into new policies.

903
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: As in like if I've got an existing policy with

904
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: let's say AA for my car, and I will renew

905
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: it at the end of the year, then it tooks in.

906
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 12: Well, there's different there's quite a long lead to time

907
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 12: because parts are a bit more complicated than the others.

908
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 6: But I would.

909
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 12: Imagine for most insurance companies, for simple things like care insurance,

910
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 12: they will be well ready for that by the.

911
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: End of the year.

912
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: But right, so let's say whenever this bill, this piece

913
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: of law is fully enacted, I can go to my

914
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: insurance policies will renew at some stage and I don't

915
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: have to worry about it. I'm covered from the minute

916
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: that I renew my policies.

917
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, the new arrangements, there is a stage time for

918
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 12: leading to them. Obviously, insurance companies got to go around

919
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 12: and rewrite their policies, put them in plain English as

920
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 12: an example. But once they're all done, then certainly when

921
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 12: you enter into those arrangements there's new arrangements, you'll be

922
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 12: covered brilliant stuff.

923
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: Andrew, thanks very much, Andrew Bailey, Minister of Comments and

924
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: Consumer Affairs. Right, Heather, I'm going to vote for the Coalition,

925
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: not for the soft. I don't know that I can

926
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: say this word out on air soft for another word

927
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: for Willie National Party. There's a lot of that going on.

928
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this next five to twenty one.

929
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: The du cutting through the noise to get the facts.

930
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: It's Heather duper see allan drive with one New Zealand.

931
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be soft roosters.

932
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: Heather, thank you appreciate it. Speaking of soft roosters. Five

933
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 3: twenty four, let's deal with this. Good on the NATS

934
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: for finally laying out their argument for why they're killing

935
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: David Seamaw's Treaty Principle's bill, because up to now they

936
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: haven't actually articulated. But I've got to be honest with you,

937
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: judging by the text, judging by how I am receiving

938
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: this argument, I don't think it's going to convince any

939
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: of their voters who might actually like the idea of

940
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: this bill. Basically their argument is twofold right, So number one,

941
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: David Seymour's bill is too simplistic a solution for a

942
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: complex issue. And number two, it's a distraction from their

943
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: attempts to get New Zealand back on track. Now here's

944
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: the problem with both of those arguments. They sound like excuses.

945
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: They just don't want to do the thing that's giving

946
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: them the yick. I don't want to do it. So

947
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: actually I suspect, given the popular popularity of this bill

948
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: and the admission that Paul Goldsmith has made, that actually

949
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: if it went to referendum it would pass. I think.

950
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: I think And by the way, when I speak about

951
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: the popularity, I'm talking about the fact that the basic

952
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: idea was put to a poll and it was very popular.

953
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: I think that there will be quite a few National

954
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: Party supporters who think that what's happening in race relations

955
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: in this country, where one kind of person is entitled

956
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: to freebies like free GP visits but others aren't, is

957
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: an example of New Zealand being way off track and

958
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: exactly the kind of getting us back on track that

959
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 3: we would like to see. And it doesn't really fly

960
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: to admit that, yeah, there is a problem, but then

961
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: to go well, I'm not I just don't like the solution, Like,

962
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: if you admit that there's a problem, find me a

963
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: simple solution to it. Picking your way through myriad legislation

964
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: to fix bits and bobs here and there seems like

965
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: doing it the hard way when you have a perfectly

966
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: simple solution presented right to you right now the act

967
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: Party is proposing it. Voters ps news flash to the

968
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: National Party rarely love a simple solution, especially if they

969
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: are a conservative voter. Gang patches are intimidating, and the

970
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 3: gang patches kids aren't going to school. Punish the parents.

971
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: Healthcare is falling apart. Build more hospitals, hire more doctors,

972
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: hire more nurses. A simple solution is a thing that

973
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: a conservative voter loves the most. Race relations are getting

974
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: weird because the treaty principles at the moment are willy

975
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: and undefined. So the simple solution is define them, which

976
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: is what David Seymour is planning to do in this bill.

977
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: Saying yeah, there is a problem, but they're not fixing

978
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: it with the most obvious and simple fix is going

979
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: to sound to a lot of voters amongst the National

980
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: Party's own voting base like the Nats are just making

981
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of excuses. So while I'm pleased we've got

982
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: their argument, good luck to them trying to convince anyone

983
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: with this one.

984
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Ever, do see out to let me know what you think.

985
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two. Now, if you have got tickets

986
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: to Coldplay for Tomorrow night and Saturday night, mate, you

987
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: are not going to regret what you're about to go to.

988
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: That was I went last night the best show, hands down,

989
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: that I have ever been to. And I'm saying this

990
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: is somebody who doesn't love Coldplay. I mean, I like Coldplay.

991
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: I really madly respect Coldplay because they are very, very successful.

992
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: But I was sort of like, what take it, will

993
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: leave it whatever, you know, it's Coldplay, I'll go along

994
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 3: because they are a successful band. Holy Hannah, that was

995
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: a show. And this is not just me saying it.

996
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: I asked a whole bunch of people I knew who

997
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: were there, and they all said to me, best show

998
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: they've ever seen. Two people said to me Adele's music

999
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: was better. But that is literally the only contention.

1000
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: You are good.

1001
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: Anyway. This guy kret got annoying as hell, it really is,

1002
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: But what a showman. He was dancing and singing and

1003
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: smiling the whole time. You had like wristband lights all

1004
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: over the stadium, you had confetti, you had fireworks, and

1005
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: when you walked out of there you felt like you'd

1006
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: had a good time and you felt happy for it.

1007
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: So if you haven't got a ticket, get a ticket,

1008
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna love it. Headlines next.

1009
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Hard Questions.

1010
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: That's a strong opinion had due for see Ellen drive

1011
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: with one New Zealand Let's get connected and used talk

1012
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: as they'd be.

1013
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Together.

1014
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: I saw Coldplay last time, they were in Auckland, and

1015
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: the thing I remember most is the only genius good

1016
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: word on the agnus Chris Martin saying we're all in

1017
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: this together. Uh huh together in your private jet? Ay too?

1018
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 5: Right?

1019
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: Remember this is like and I'm saying, this is somebody

1020
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: who loved the show last night, but remember this is Colplay,

1021
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: who were like, we're not going to tour anymore because

1022
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: we don't want to hurt the climate. And then they

1023
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: were like, actually we do like money, so oh hold on,

1024
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: hold on, what what was that? That's Richard Hills.

1025
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 24: The light up bracelets were vegan though, so well that

1026
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 24: FoST souls everything?

1027
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: Oh does it? Because I just feel like it's going

1028
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: to kill a lot of turtles when all of those

1029
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: bracelets get thrown in the water. Thank you Richard. Any Way,

1030
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: Richard's gonna us very shortly. Yeah, so just remember you

1031
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: are dealing with some very irritating people. But the music

1032
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: was great and the show was great. Hither you're absolutely

1033
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: spot on renational. They're going to pay for this. Hither

1034
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: you'ree hundred percent right. The Nats need to grow a

1035
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: backbone spot on here. That are you listening? Las luxon

1036
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: being a soft rooster here? The thanks a great synopsis.

1037
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: The NAT's absolutely rooted. So they might want to rethink

1038
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: the same huddle standing by going to be with us

1039
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: shortly twenty three away from six.

1040
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Heather Dup see Allen so in.

1041
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: New Zealand's got themselves a new safety video, this time

1042
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: starring the KIWI NBA star Steven Adams in the lead role.

1043
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 5: That's a hard time buzzer.

1044
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Adams still in front, Steve, Hey you feeling?

1045
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, I'm looking forward to the life jack a bit.

1046
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: All.

1047
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 5: That does sound really important.

1048
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: Actually, Greg four And is the New Zealand's chief executive. Hey, Greg,

1049
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: hi there, how did you get Steven Adams?

1050
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 25: Well, actually he reached out to us. He's been pretty

1051
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 25: keen to see whether we could do something. He likes

1052
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 25: thee in New Zealand. He flies he in New Zealand,

1053
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 25: and he reached out to us. And as we've thought

1054
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 25: about new safety video and basketball came to mind. It's

1055
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 25: a fast growing sport. Yes, Steve Adams came to mind,

1056
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 25: and here we go. We've got a really sort of

1057
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 25: essential iconic key. We doing something which we think is

1058
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 25: pretty good for the country.

1059
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: So, I mean, did he know that there was a

1060
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: safety video that needed doing or did he just reach

1061
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: out on the hope that one day, when you do

1062
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: your next one, he'd be available being josen.

1063
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 25: Yeah, he was interested in partnering with us, you know,

1064
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 25: in terms of the work he does with kids playing

1065
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 25: basketball around the country, and so it was wider than

1066
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 25: just a safety video. But as we started to discuss

1067
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 25: it through with him, you know, the safety video became

1068
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 25: a very good vehicle and so that's the one we

1069
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 25: went to and I think it's worked to treat I.

1070
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: Mean, in the past, you've had a pretty strong relationship

1071
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: with the rugby guys. Have you heard from them about

1072
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: how are you cutting their lunch with basketball?

1073
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 25: Now, no, we haven't, but I'm sure at some point

1074
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 25: we'll work out who else we do something with.

1075
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: But now that's a good question.

1076
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: Can we ax? Is a cost to make one of

1077
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: these flash ones instead of just your stock standard you know,

1078
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: buckle yourself up one.

1079
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 25: Well, we don't do stock standard Buckley ones, do we.

1080
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 25: We haven't really done the years. I think you go

1081
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 25: back to the I think it was body painting. I

1082
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 25: wasn't in the country, but I hear about it regularly.

1083
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 25: And of course we've also done Rico the Raccoon, which

1084
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 25: seems to have an interesting history associated with it. Lord

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Speaker 25: of the Rings rap music. So you know, it's part

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Speaker 25: of the brand to get involved and be quite curious

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Speaker 25: and stretch ourselves. So we don't do the stock standard ones,

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Speaker 25: and I don't think we should.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: No, Actually, do you know what I actually agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of tired of this debate about whether a

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Speaker 3: New Zealand needs to do the safety videos that were

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Speaker 3: the weird ones. You do them, that's your thing. But

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Speaker 3: the reason I'm asking is because there's been a little

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Speaker 3: bit of chat today about whether actually it's a wise

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Speaker 3: thing to do, given how much punters are being pinged

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Speaker 3: for the old flights at the moment.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I can imagine that that comes through, And you know,

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Speaker 25: it's one of the reasons that we keep pushing on

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00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 25: things like the airport, to be honest, to keep our

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00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 25: costs down. They do cost some money. It's obviously commercially

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Speaker 25: sensitive how much we spend, but it's an important part

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Speaker 25: of the brand. It's a bit like the Menga pari

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Speaker 25: on the tail and the uniform, which you know we're

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00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 25: doing a new one and you'll see that next year.

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Speaker 25: I think you've got to invest money to make a

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Speaker 25: bit of money, and I think this is a smart investment.

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Speaker 25: But you know, one of the things I'm proud of

1109
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 25: heither is we've kept it short and you know, I

1110
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 25: certainly watch plenty of customers when I'm sitting on planes,

1111
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 25: and I know that they will appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 25: we get through this one and sort of record time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1114
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Speaker 3: Well, if Bob Jones ever comes back, he'll appreciate that.

1115
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Speaker 3: Cold play. How are you going with these flights, because

1116
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: it sounds like it's a bit of madness out there.

1117
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Look, there's about another thirty thousand and people traveling this

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00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 25: week domestically, which is up about fifteen percent, and so

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Speaker 25: far so good. Pretty big day yesterday. The biggest day

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Speaker 25: is actually tomorrow. So you know, we've put on some

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Speaker 25: extra flight and we're very conscious of making sure that

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Speaker 25: they all operate, make sure we don't cancel anything through

1124
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 25: the dreaded engineering or weather or bird strikes or whatever

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Speaker 25: else we have to deal with. So so far, so good,

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Speaker 25: and it's working well.

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Speaker 8: Greg.

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Speaker 3: Thank you as always, really appreciate your time. That's greeg

1129
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Speaker 3: for CEO of in New Zealand. Hither you're a confirmation

1130
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: biased type of person, aren't you only read out texts

1131
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: that align to your thinking. I'm sick of it. Not

1132
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: everyone is on your site. I want to hear a

1133
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: robust and diverse conversation, not just you going on and

1134
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: on about your own views. Well, happy for you. The

1135
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Speaker 3: huddle is here, nineteen away from.

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Speaker 2: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local

1137
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 2: and global exposure like no other.

1138
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Speaker 3: And on the huddle with two people who one hundred

1139
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Speaker 3: percent disagree with me on this. We have Richard Hill's

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Speaker 3: All Can Counselor and Nick Leggett Infrastructure.

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Speaker 26: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Hello, you too, cure to Hello, Okay, Richard, did you

1143
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 3: see the carry on in the house today?

1144
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 24: Yes, I watched it on the way here, thoughts Well,

1145
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 24: it's just a continuation of the fastest this whole waste

1146
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 24: of six months is. I mean, the government can't expect

1147
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 24: the opposition to just lay down and pretend like this

1148
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 24: is not weird when the government's like, we don't support

1149
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 24: this at all, but we're going to make you all

1150
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 24: sit here and waste time and money debating something that's

1151
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 24: never gonna.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of texts from people who are

1153
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: really upset with how that played out in the House

1154
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: today with the hakka and the disruption and stuff. Did

1155
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: that upset you or were you like not actually fair enough?

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Speaker 24: I guess the whole rules of debate are out the

1157
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 24: window when you're forcing everyone to sit there and debate

1158
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 24: something that the government has said they don't support, but

1159
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 24: they're making us go through it and getting people upset

1160
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 24: and offside, but like they're not going to support it,

1161
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Speaker 24: but we have to sit there.

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Speaker 3: And because you're a labor guy, right, so I know

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00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: this is going to play really well for the Maori

1164
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: Party voter base, and some in the Green Party voter base.

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00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: How's it going to play for the Labor Party voter base.

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 24: I think probably the voter base of the country looks

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 24: at Parliament today and maybe all days at the moment

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00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 24: and thinks, what a waste of time and money? What

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00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 24: are they doing? This is just another continuation of the mess.

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Speaker 24: But I don't necessarily blame people for acting up when

1171
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 24: it is a ridiculous situation they're all being put in

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Speaker 24: right now.

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Speaker 3: Nick, tell me what you make of the NAT's argument

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Speaker 3: for why they're not supporting this bill.

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Speaker 27: Well, you could argue it's MMP in action, But I

1176
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 27: think the issue is I'm less concerned about the waste

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Speaker 27: of time or money. It's more the division that this

1178
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 27: creates needlessly. Why have a debate that allows extremes, you know,

1179
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 27: reacting to one another and you know, and playing to

1180
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Speaker 27: their respective bases when I suspect most he wes are

1181
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 27: not of either on either side, but actually want a functioning,

1182
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Speaker 27: evolving treaty relationship that's based on partnership and both You

1183
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 27: know that bipartisan agreement between you know, across successive governments

1184
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 27: has been built up over decades and this takes us backwards.

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00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 27: This debate takes us backwards. And you know, you don't

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 27: sort out nationhood by a referendum, you continue to have

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 27: good dialogue. You disagree, absolutely, but it also raises for me,

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Speaker 27: you know, I think that we haven't defined that the treaty.

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Speaker 27: We haven't defined well enough that the treaty has actually

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Speaker 27: got a place for everybody. It's why we're all here,

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Speaker 27: And so much of the treaty discussion plays out as

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Speaker 27: though it's just for Marty, when an actual factor, every

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 27: New Zealander has a place under the treaty, and I

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 27: think a lot of non Marty feel alien from that,

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Speaker 27: and so we've got to do a better job at

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Speaker 27: bringing them together. This bill doesn't do that, and frankly,

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Speaker 27: the political leadership that we've seen on display from all

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Speaker 27: sides doesn't really do that.

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Speaker 1: YU.

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Speaker 3: So the problem, the problem that the NATS have got

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Speaker 3: is that what you see today drives up the Acts

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Speaker 3: Party vote, and it drives up the Marti party vote,

1203
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Speaker 3: and it actually, if you assume that there's just a

1204
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: transactional vote movement there, actually drives down the National Party vote,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: Absolutely well, yeah, yeah, And that's I mean I'm I

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 27: believe in a strong center of politics, and that's not

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00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 27: that's not a dollar each way. That means that you

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 27: can pull you know, you can bring from both sides

1211
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 27: and pull something together and get some cooperation. But we

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Speaker 27: haven't seen that, unfortunately, and not just from national but

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Speaker 27: I think that I don't think Labor, for instance, explained

1214
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 27: three waters and what they meant by co governance. Well enough.

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Speaker 27: Now I've worked well in co government situations. Proudly it

1216
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 27: can and it does work. But you've got to take

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Speaker 27: people with you. You've got to take both treaty partners

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Speaker 27: with you. And so what we haven't seen we haven't

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Speaker 27: had courageous discussions from the since center, the Live A Party.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that's the very fair point

1221
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Speaker 3: there is that we've been We've had theyck about it,

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Speaker 3: we've not talked about it, and now that we're talking

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Speaker 3: about it, we're shouting all right. We'll take a break,

1224
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Speaker 3: come back on other subjects shortly with the huddle. Fourteen

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the

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00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: marketing of your home.

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Speaker 3: Right, You're back with a huddle, Richard Hill's and Nick

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Speaker 3: Leggett Richard, I'm loving the id crackdown on the kiwis

1230
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: overseas not paying their bills. What about you?

1231
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Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean I've got a bit of sympathy for,

1232
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 24: you know, young people that go over for a kentickie

1233
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Speaker 24: and a holiday and a year or two you know,

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00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 24: gap year and get charged interest. You know, maybe there

1235
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Speaker 24: needs to be a bit more chilled vibes there. But

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Speaker 24: I was quite surprised when it's people in their forties

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Speaker 24: and fifties over there with big bills, you know, like,

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Speaker 24: obviously I would love.

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Speaker 3: If we were Have you paid yours down?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: I did a celebratory don't you.

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Speaker 3: Think, like as people in our faulties now we've paid

1243
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Speaker 3: the thing down, and then you look at those guys

1244
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Speaker 3: over there not paying it down all grimes McGee's quite a.

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Speaker 24: Big number two like, so I will obviously love it

1246
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Speaker 24: if we were like the generations above us who've got

1247
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Speaker 24: free education, that would be nice, but we didn't, and

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Speaker 24: I think interest free is a pretty good deal. So

1249
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 24: it is surprising to see, but I guess the idea

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Speaker 24: it's quite a lot of money they're spending on getting

1251
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Speaker 24: the money too. So I think they need to make

1252
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 24: sure they're not overspending for the well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, return on investment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 27: I mean, look, the country is in a really tight

1256
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 27: fiscal corner at the moment. I guess that's also what

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01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 27: concerns me about the last thing we discussed. We actually

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 27: want to government focused on building the economy, improving health

1259
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 27: and education. And you know they've got they've got to

1260
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Speaker 27: pull back some money from wherever they can get it.

1261
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Speaker 27: So I think that's important. But I think that's right

1262
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 27: as well. You know, what is there a return on

1263
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 27: the money being spent?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 27: Is it worth chasing people in this wale? Do we

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01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 27: wait and pin them until they come back when they

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Speaker 27: come back into the country.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, what about them coming back into the country

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty of them, and then we're going

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Speaker 3: to arrest them and not let them leave again. That's awesome.

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Speaker 27: I don't think that's what I was suggesting here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just love that. I mean I love that

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Speaker 3: the iodia. You're taking this serious.

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Speaker 24: You would march them to the ATM, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 3: I would, And I'd make them empty out all their

1276
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: money and then give it to us and then be like, oh,

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: sorry if you can't buy bread now because you did that,

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: but at least we've got our dollars back. Did you

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Speaker 3: mind the New Zealand video, Nick.

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Speaker 27: Well, I fly a lot, so I do have. I

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 27: get quite intimate with these videos and they are painful

1282
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 27: after a while, so I welcome the new one. I

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 27: really like Steven Adams and I really like Tom Sainsbury,

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01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 27: so that's good. But if you fly as often as

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 27: I do, where's thin? And I was really interested in

1286
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 27: Greg saying that this is a short one because I've

1287
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 27: only seen it on the YouTube, but it was like

1288
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 27: four minutes, get it over and done with?

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 5: Took long?

1290
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 23: Please?

1291
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 24: Yeah, seven seconds?

1293
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 27: Short attention spans these Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: What did you think, Richard?

1295
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Speaker 24: Oh yeah, I mean I think as I get older,

1296
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 24: which is a bit said, I'm starting to get a

1297
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Speaker 24: little bit annoyed with it. But I do think it's

1298
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Speaker 24: more like Bob Jones.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 24: I think I used to be very defensive of them,

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 24: but I understand why people get annoyed. But I think

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Speaker 24: for visitors, for people that they're trying to show the brand,

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 24: it is classically New Zealand, and I think it does

1304
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 24: show parts of the country and our people in a

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 24: way that it's hard to get people to read that

1306
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 24: magazine or whatever. You know, it is a good way,

1307
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 24: but sometimes it is a bit like what was the

1308
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 24: safety message?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I don't. I have to read the little

1310
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: card to remind myself where the life jacket is. Richard,

1311
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: was the Coldplay show last night the best Play best

1312
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: show you've ever been to?

1313
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 24: I think it was the best show, the best show

1314
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 24: you've ever been to. I couldn't comment, but it's a

1315
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 24: big it's a high bar, but it was amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was of another answer, it was the best show

1317
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: you've ever been too, best show I've ever been to.

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Speaker 24: It was fantastic. And to see all those people. I

1319
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 24: took the train and the bus back and people were buzzing.

1320
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 24: The city was full, people were positive, people were using

1321
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 24: the fan trail and that's going to happen on Friday

1322
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 24: and Saturday too, So big for the city. Great to

1323
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 24: have the there, and the hotels are full, and it's yeah,

1324
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 24: it's just nice when these things happen. After Peel Jam

1325
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 24: last weekend as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Hey, thank you both. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Richard Hill's Nick leigot our huddle. It's eight away from

1328
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Speaker 3: six red.

1329
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: Or blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the battleground states?

1330
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: The latest on the US election, it's Heather duplicy Alan

1331
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: drive with one.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected these talks.

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Speaker 3: Bhither did you pay for your own ticket? Wizard of

1334
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: free Bee? It was a preeb not even gonna line.

1335
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: It was a pree bee. And I'll tell you what.

1336
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: I do have my own ticket for Saturday. But here's

1337
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: the problem. It's it's a general admission ticket. Now I

1338
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: find out because my friend bought the tickets. So I'm

1339
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: not all together like a top scrounge anyway. But the

1340
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: problem is, I don't really know if I can stand

1341
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: for that long, given that I am so heavily pregnant. Anyway,

1342
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 3: well wending and moaning, never mind, carry on. I want

1343
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: to talk to you about Mlania at Trump.

1344
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: It kind of kills me to say this, but I

1346
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: think I like Milania Trump because Milania Trump ain't gonna

1347
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: be told what to do by the people around her.

1348
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: The latest report is that she is not going to

1349
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: move into the White House when when Donald moves into

1350
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: the White House, because he's the president again. Mlania is

1351
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: not coming. She cannot be bothered. She cannot be bothered

1352
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: having to deal with jills curtains, Jill's couches, Jill's color choices,

1353
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: having to hang out with the Washington elite. Like, she's

1354
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: just not gonna do it. She's gonna stay wherever she

1355
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 3: wants to say. Whether that's marri Lago or New York,

1356
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. Because what is interesting about this is,

1357
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: of course Mlani was nowhere to be seen really on

1358
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: the campaign trail, so she wasn't going to be told

1359
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: that she needed to go at campaigning. And then when

1360
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: she was told to go and have a meeting with

1361
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: Jill Biden, she was also not going to be told

1362
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: to have that meeting, so she didn't do it. Now

1363
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: over that brew, haha. She has just in the last

1364
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: day released a statement which I also love because the

1365
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: statement says, Missus Trump will not be attending the meeting

1366
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: at the White House with Jill Biden. Her husband's return

1367
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: to the Oval Office to commence the transition process is

1368
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: encouraging him, encouraging, and she wishes him great success. This

1369
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: is what I am going to do from here on

1370
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: in this is how I feel like. This is independent

1371
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: woman life right now. So when your husband's leaving in

1372
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: the morning, you say, Tata, your departure for work is encouraging,

1373
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: and I wish you great success. When he comes back

1374
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 3: and he's like, honey, look I've mowed the lawns. You go,

1375
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: that is encouraging and I wish you great success. I

1376
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: don't need to be part of all of this anymore.

1377
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be encouraged and wish you great success.

1378
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: Actually that's a bit loveless, isn't it, because let's be honest. No,

1379
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: I don't think we need to go down the path

1380
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: of Millennia Trump. I think we all know Milani and

1381
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: Donald stop loving each other a very long time ago,

1382
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: which is probably why she doesn't want to do anything

1383
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: she's told to do. Still love it. Shane Jones, the

1384
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 3: Energy Minister, is going to be with us straight out

1385
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: to six o'clock because we are putting a lot of

1386
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: money as a country. Hopefully it's the money we get

1387
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: from this student loan. People actually just reinvest that to

1388
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 3: explore super deep geothermal energy possibilities. So he'll run us

1389
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: through that shortly. News talks at bar.

1390
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money as you going With

1391
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: the business hour, we'd hand the duplicy Ellen and my

1392
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: hr on NEWSTALGSB.

1393
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, we're gonna

1394
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: have a chat to Sam Dickie. He will have a

1395
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: look at the Trump trading for us. In the last week,

1396
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: Liam Dan will talk us through the food price inflation,

1397
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: Jamie Mackay the Fonterra AGM and then Endebrady's with us

1398
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 3: out of the UK eight past six. Now the government's

1399
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: setting aside sixty million dollars to explore the potential of

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: so called supercritical geothermal energy. Conventionally we're drooling about three

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 3: and a half k's deep at the moment, but scientists

1402
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: reckon supercritical drilling to a depth of six case has

1403
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: the potential to generate near limitless power and the Resources

1404
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: and Energy Minister Shane Jones is with us nowy Shane, Hey,

1405
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: so what kind of energy is it that you're pulling

1406
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: out here? What are we talking about?

1407
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 6: Twenty percent of the current electricity we generate this traceable

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 6: back to geothermal energy from a depth of two maybe

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 6: three and a half kilometers. We want to go six

1410
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 6: kilometers closer to the magma, supercritical super hot, a far

1411
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 6: more intense form of geothermal energy, with the capacity to

1412
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 6: grow our electricity supply platform by probably another fifty percent,

1413
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 6: dive down energy prices and give us greater security.

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: Private company's already doing this.

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 6: Private companies in New Zealand are busily gouging and profiting

1416
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 6: excessively from industry and households. They have no interest in

1417
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 6: massively expanding the supply of energy because it'll drive down prices.

1418
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 6: To you and I does compromise their profits.

1419
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so you think that they would do it if

1420
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: they actually had an incentive to do it, but they

1421
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: just don't want to do The reason I'm asking you

1422
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 3: the Shane is because if a private company isn't doing it,

1423
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: I start to get a bit wary about the public

1424
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 3: getting involved in it. Do you know what I mean?

1425
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 6: No, I don't what you mean.

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: Well, if there's if there is no reason, if a

1427
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: private company looks at this thing and doesn't see that

1428
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: there is a reason for them to get involved in

1429
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: this right that the return on the investment outweighs it

1430
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: makes sense to them, then is it smart for us

1431
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: as a government to be throwing money into it? If

1432
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 3: it doesn't make commercial sense. Why would we do it?

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 6: It's smart for a government to secure energy security. We

1434
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 6: almost ran out of energy last winter. The price has

1435
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 6: got to such a sky high level. We had the

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 6: highest energy US is in the world. The current gent tailors,

1437
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 6: the major energy electricity producers, have no incentive to boost

1438
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 6: our energy security because insecurity massively expands their profits. No government,

1439
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 6: no politician like Shane Jones, can sit lately buy while

1440
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 6: we suffer energy poverty and a small cost of shareholders

1441
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 6: grossly profit.

1442
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: Where in the country do you do this?

1443
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 6: The volcanic plateau represents that this stage's the best potential.

1444
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 6: That's aleppo popo coroo. I mean we are sitting on

1445
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 6: a potential energy magic carpet down to that part of

1446
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 6: the country. You are right, there are risks, but that's

1447
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 6: what governments exist for. Where there's a market failure and

1448
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 6: let's fail. Let's be honest. The market is failing grossly

1449
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 6: in terms of energy in New Zealand. That's why it's

1450
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 6: not an unreasonable contribution to test is the science correct

1451
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 6: and can the engineering be made to perform to give

1452
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 6: us this new platform in a climate uncertain environment of

1453
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 6: fresh green energy.

1454
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: And Shane, is this something that you do on shore

1455
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: or offshore?

1456
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 6: No, the electricity that we may generate over time from

1457
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 6: the geothermal field will be on shore. The offshore was

1458
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 6: from the wind farms. They've now gone home off the

1459
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 6: coast of Taranaki. Of course they blamed they blamed the

1460
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 6: offshore mining for that which there's another matter and once

1461
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 6: again further evidence of falsehoods.

1462
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: Shane, were you in Parliament today for the carry on?

1463
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 6: I sadly wasn't in the cargo announcing jobs, announcing investments

1464
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 6: and supporting the aquaculture industry. My colleague Casey Costello was there,

1465
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 6: but by all accounts it turned into a circus with

1466
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 6: the Maldi Party, in particular the young lady from Tynery.

1467
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 6: But I'm not surprised that the Maori Party are subverting parliament.

1468
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 6: They're malcontents. They are there to undermine the legitimacy of

1469
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: parliament and they are using that as a basis to

1470
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 6: recruitt members from their party. The whole Hikhoi, which is

1471
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 6: actually a khakoy, is designed as a clarion called to

1472
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 6: boost the appeal of the Malord Party.

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 3: Now, Shane, what I'd like to know from you because

1474
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: you've been in Parliament a very very long time. Is

1475
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 3: what we're seeing at the moment is it's getting increasingly

1476
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: weird in there and rowdy and there's a lot more misbehavior.

1477
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: How do you stop this from escalating?

1478
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 6: Well, there are provisions that Terry Brown has now once

1479
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 6: things get completely out of control. The Parliament has inherent

1480
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 6: powers to imprison members of Parliament.

1481
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 3: Well, actually chuck them in jail.

1482
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 6: At Parliament has inherent powers to put people in jail.

1483
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 6: And the way the Maldi Party comes Karen, Oh, that's

1484
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 6: a great That seemed to me quite an appropriate response.

1485
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 6: Democratic I will that there lies the problem. It's an

1486
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 6: ancient doction Will have inherited through our parliamentary wisners to

1487
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 6: based democracy. But with the threatening ugly behavior in the

1488
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 6: Butler of mining change and sees that as a reasonable

1489
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 6: discussion point.

1490
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: And when you if Parliament, if Jerry was to do

1491
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: that and chuck them in jail, what are we talking

1492
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: about the clink down at Wellington District Court. Are like

1493
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: that down at the local police station or is there

1494
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,480
Speaker 3: some sort of special jail at Parliament.

1495
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 6: I'm not entirely sure. If Stuart Ireland's got a jail,

1496
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 6: but some distant destination for these malcontents wouldn't be a

1497
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 6: bad idea, Shane, I like.

1498
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: That idea more than your geo thermal idea. Will be

1499
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: honest with you, I appreciate it change showing resources Minister,

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: which is not to say I don't like the geothermal idea,

1501
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 3: but this idea has really tickled me. Pink anyway, see

1502
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: how that goes. Sky TV just want to talk about

1503
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 3: them really quickly. Sounds like the negotiations to keep Rugby

1504
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 3: on Sky TV are getting pretty hairy. Sky had the

1505
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: annual shareholder meeting this morning and they said they still

1506
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: haven't got a deal with New Zealand Rugby, even though

1507
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: the exclusive negotiating period with New Zealand Rugby actually wrapped

1508
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 3: up at the end of last month, so about two

1509
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 3: weeks ago. They this is Sky They really want to

1510
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: have the whole thing done by the end of the year.

1511
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 3: It's logistics, it's about you know, it's just about basically

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Speaker 3: a time frames for knowing what comes up in the future. Anyway,

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: so they they're kind of running out out of runway here.

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: Sounds like the problem the sticking point is z are

1515
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 3: wants to be able to give Sky some rugby to

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 3: put on Sky, but then keep some rugby for itself

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01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: to put on their own streaming platform, which is called

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: NZR plus or something like that. Sky then obviously is like, well,

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 3: if I'm not getting all the rugby exclusively, and if

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 3: you're going to be putting some of the rugby on

1521
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: your weird little streaming platform, then I'm not going to

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 3: pay you as much. And so that is where they're

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: having a bit of a row about it. I'd bother

1524
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: by the looks of things reading between the lines. I've

1525
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 3: got to be honest with you, I don't know about

1526
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: INZTR getting into broadcasting its own rugby. And the only

1527
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: reason I say that is because INZTR has got its plateful.

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01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: It actually is doing a pretty crap job at the

1529
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: moment of rugby right. Look at the Super Rugby competition.

1530
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: It sucks. Look at what's going on with the All Blacks.

1531
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: We're constantly frustrated. We have no bloody idea what's going

1532
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 3: on with the All Blacks? Why has Ethan de Groutz

1533
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 3: stood down? You like the whole thing, just that the

1534
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 3: governance situation is just a shambles. So if they've got

1535
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: all of this stuff that they have to deal with.

1536
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: Should they really be trying to do someone else's job

1537
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: as well? Maybe just stick to doing their own job

1538
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: A little bit better called a past.

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: Analysis from the experts, bringing you everything you need to

1540
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 2: know on the US election. It's The Business Hour with

1541
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: Heather Dup, c Allen and my Hr Ehr. Solution for

1542
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,480
Speaker 2: busy SMEs used talks.

1543
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Speaker 6: It'd be.

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: Hither.

1545
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: I absolutely love Shane's deep geothermal idea. I don't have that.

1546
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: Don't get the issue you have with the hair the

1547
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: Please explain.

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with it.

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 5: I don't.

1550
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: I just said that I don't have an issue with it.

1551
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: I just love the jail idea.

1552
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 24: More.

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: Eighteen past six, Liam Dan is The Herald's Business editor

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01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 3: at large. Liam, Hello, what's going on with the monthly

1555
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: food prices?

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 28: Well, sort of sort of good news. I mean, you know,

1558
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 28: it's in case, it's not rocket science. It's October and

1559
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 28: vegetables got cheaper. But broadly speaking, the food prices were

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 28: down a bit or flat, which is good news because

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 28: the rest of the inflation story is catching up. The

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 28: all that non tradable inflation is catching up, So the

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 28: economists are quite happy about that. Looks like we will

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 28: be on target to hit the inflation target around two percent,

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 28: so you know, look broadly good news. But I just

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 28: did notice a little caveat there that the dairy prices

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 28: are starting to creep up. So you know, now this

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 28: is weirdly a good thing for New Zealand, right, But

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 28: it just means watch that block of cheese price because

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 28: I can guarantee people will be complaining about it in

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 28: the coming months as the dairy farmers go about the

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 28: business of possibly saving the economy.

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01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: Are we all settled on a fifty basis point cut

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 3: this month rather than seventy five?

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01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 8: Looks looks like it.

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01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 28: I think I said to you, I thought they'd go

1577
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 28: seventy five a few weeks ago, but nobody's picking that anymore.

1578
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 28: The unemployment came in a bit better than expected, and

1579
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 28: then of course our dear friend Donald Trump is expected

1580
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 28: to do a whole bunch of policies. It has the

1581
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 28: markets pushing bond yields up, which means interest rates around

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 28: the world rise, and so that's a little bit more

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01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 28: upward pressure. So I don't think we're going to see

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 28: anything other than fifty I mean, they couldn't go less

1585
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 28: than that. We're still had all the recessionary problems, but

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 28: seventy five does look to be off the table.

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: I good to talk to you. Thank you, Liam, really

1588
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Liam dan Ol Jesus Editor at Large. Willie

1589
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: Jackson just put out a tweet says this today, I

1590
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 3: was ejected from the House for my response to the

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 3: first of the Treaty Principal's bill. I just want to

1592
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: clarify something I will not apologize for. What is the truth.

1593
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: David Seymour has continually misrepresented the treaty. End of story,

1594
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: kere order and goodnight.

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01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 6: Now.

1596
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 3: The interesting thing there is Willy Jackson called David Seymour

1597
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: a liar in the House, and that's what god him ejected.

1598
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 3: But notice he doesn't use the word liar in the tweet.

1599
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 3: He just uses the phrase continually misrepresented the treaty. So

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 3: Willie Jackson's very, very happy to use the old L

1601
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: word to make a point while he's under the cloak

1602
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: of parliamentary privilege in the House. But when he comes

1603
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: out and he's like, I stand by my convictions, but

1604
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to use the L word because I

1605
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: might get sued for defamation all of a sudden. The

1606
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: principle is not quite so strong, is it as it?

1607
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 3: That says political Stunt Duvals founder Kenyan Clark speaking of Coldplay,

1608
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: looks like he went to Coldplay. Had too good a

1609
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 3: night last night, by the looks of things, because he

1610
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 3: hit the Instagram, didn't he After he put a picture

1611
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 3: of Coldplay and then a blur, just a blurb afterwards,

1612
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: and the blurb on is in post basically accuses the

1613
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 3: government of government theft because he said the FMA did

1614
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 3: the raid and then seized his technology, his wife's wedding ring,

1615
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: the birthday present his parents gave him when he was sixteen,

1616
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: didn't say what the present was. Said, He's not going

1617
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: to be as easy to deal with as Alan Hubbard,

1618
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,919
Speaker 3: who was the last guy who was put under statutory

1619
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: management before this is the new guy who's been put

1620
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 3: under statutory management. He said, Well, here's the thing. I'm

1621
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: not an eighty three year old accountant. I'm not going anywhere.

1622
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: This is my home. And while I may be under

1623
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: a gag order not to speak about any questionable f

1624
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: MA investigation, I can say get on and charge me.

1625
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you in court and expose

1626
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: every grubbly little deal, every grubby witness and the trial

1627
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 3: by media and the absence of any evidence.

1628
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1629
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 3: And then he said he's going to have a biblical

1630
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: response at the FMA. He deleted the Instagram when wiser

1631
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: heads prevailed, and the wiser head would belong to his wife, who, apparently,

1632
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 3: he says, read the Instagram post and wasn't happy and

1633
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: he had to delete. So there's a lesson in this

1634
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: once again, stop using social media, Like how many times

1635
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: I have to tell you stop using social media. It

1636
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: just gets you in trouble. But also, don't go on

1637
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: the rams at Coldplay and then use the social media

1638
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 3: because then your wife's going to say, if you're not

1639
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: gonna like it.

1640
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: Six twenty two, if it's to do with money, it

1641
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: matters to you. The Business Hour with Heather Duper, c

1642
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: Allen and my Hr The HR Solution for Busy smy

1643
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 2: on News Talk ZB.

1644
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: So it's been what is it? Has it been a

1645
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: week since Trump was elected? Is it only a week?

1646
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 3: It feels like four, isn't it. Anyway, it's been a

1647
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: week of trading. Sam Dicki's going to have a look

1648
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 3: at over it all the trump exuberant and stuff. When

1649
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: he's with us in a round about twelve minutes time,

1650
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: he'll talk us through at six twenty five and with

1651
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 3: me right now. Is Jamie McKay, Host to the Country. Hey,

1652
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 3: Jamie good Hey, are you going to the Christis JMP show?

1653
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 13: Are you?

1654
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

1655
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 26: I am. I'm about to board a plane from Dunedin

1656
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 26: and if I get the call, I'll have to hang

1657
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 26: up on you quickly. But I'm not due to board

1658
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 26: till six point thirty, so I should be safe.

1659
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not boarding at six thirty, don't worry.

1660
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 26: About Yeah, well I could be joining sixty thousand others

1661
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 26: at the christ Church amp Show this year. They're calling

1662
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 26: it that it used to be called. It was the

1663
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 26: Artist formerly known as the New Zealand Agricultural Show, which

1664
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 26: is a week down on the one hundred thousand they

1665
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 26: normally get. It is the biggest amp show in the country,

1666
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 26: or it was until it was canceled at the beginning

1667
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 26: of this year. And to be fair, a local event

1668
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 26: hire company and Sir David Carter got together and they

1669
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 26: revived it. So got on them A bit of a

1670
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 26: cold and damp start to the show today only hired

1671
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 26: sixteen tomorrow they're expecting eighteen which will be better. And

1672
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 26: the last day of the show for the public on

1673
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 26: Saturday only twelve decrees and of course a big day

1674
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 26: at Rickerton on Saturday as well free for all at

1675
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 26: Addington tomorrow. So it's all I really looking forward to it.

1676
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 26: The sharing, the wood shopping and the equestrian get under

1677
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 26: way tomorrow. It's a public holiday in christ Church, so

1678
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 26: looking forward to it.

1679
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: The Fonterra AGM today, How did the farmers in the

1680
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: shareholder and so on feel about the consumer brands being

1681
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 3: sold off?

1682
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 26: Well, I think there was some grumblings, but not too many.

1683
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 26: Peter McBride, who's a very smart man, Miles Hurrell, gets

1684
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 26: a lot of the credit quite rightly. So as chief executive,

1685
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,879
Speaker 26: he's he's the front face if you want to Fontira.

1686
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 26: Peter McBride's a kind of a reserved sort of guy,

1687
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 26: but he's got a very good track record at Zespri

1688
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 26: before Fonterra and between the two of them they've really

1689
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 26: turned the good ship Fonterra around. And he just fronted

1690
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 26: up to the shareholders there and said, look, you can

1691
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 26: spend this money better than we can. And look, I

1692
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 26: don't think there'll be too many grumbles from the farmer

1693
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 26: shareholders here that it's worth about two bucks two bucks

1694
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 26: and counting the share for them. And just remember this,

1695
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 26: at the beginning of the year, the farmer's shares that

1696
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 26: they've got to buy to supply the co op, we're

1697
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 26: trading at two dollars fifty. I think they were at

1698
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 26: a low of two dollars twelve last year. They're up

1699
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 26: to four dollars eighty eight today, so they've seen a

1700
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 26: considerable improvement on their balance sheet. And if they get

1701
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 26: another couple of bucks a share, you know they're starting

1702
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 26: to cook with gas. They're in me in the high sixes. Interestingly, also,

1703
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 26: Fonterra came out recently and on Monday, I think it

1704
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 26: wasn't and obviously went to nine dollars fifty for a

1705
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 26: mid Olympic. The futures market and that only is the

1706
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 26: future is sitting now at nine dollars ninety. I see

1707
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 26: B and Z lifted, there's up to nine seventy five. Look, Heather,

1708
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 26: I think I said this to you the other day.

1709
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 26: Ten dollars is on the cards. Now you talked about Trump,

1710
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 26: Trump and American economy up, supposedly New Zealand dollar down,

1711
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 26: so all those things are playing in the favor of

1712
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 26: New Zealand exporters. Just on that Fonterra Agm today. The

1713
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 26: only hiccup I think they were greeted by some Greenpeace

1714
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 26: protesters calling for a band on palm Colonel. But when

1715
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 26: it comes to protesting, let's face it today here the Greenpeace.

1716
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: Switches for Hey, you've got one minute before you board.

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01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: Best of luck, Jamie, Thank you, Jamie McKay. Host of

1718
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 3: the Country, Sam Dicky's with us next.

1719
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1720
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: It's headed duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

1721
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: my HR the HR solution for busy Smy's on news

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Speaker 2: Talks Bright.

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Speaker 3: The Grading is going to view with us out of

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Speaker 3: the UK and ten minutes time. Interesting news out of

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Speaker 3: the UK is that one of their biggest papers, The Guardian,

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Speaker 3: is quitting Twitter or x as it now as known.

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01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: It's sent out an internal email to staff saying they're

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 3: welcome to continue rolling, to continue rolling with their personal accounts,

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01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: but their work accounts will be shut in the Guardian's

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: work account will be shut or mothballed or whatever they're

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: calling it, because the social network has become ever more toxic.

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Speaker 3: And then they also said in a blog post that

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Speaker 3: they had concerns over fire right conspiracy theories and racism.

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01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Now I applaud them for this because I think, I

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 3: frankly think that all journalists should stop using social media

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01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 3: because basically it just opens you up to being targeted

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: by people so that they can change your mind on things.

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01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: But also as well as that, I just I think

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 3: it creates problems with echo chambers for a lot of

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: journalists as well, so I would be taking them off

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01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: that as well. And also then you get the kind

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01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,799
Speaker 3: of the weird stuff that happens, like Willie Jackson tweeting

1743
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: out stuff like that and Ginny Anderson tweeting and you know,

1744
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 3: stupid tweets and stuff like that. Get the journals off,

1745
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: then you don't have so much controversy. But I just like,

1746
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: haha to the Guardian that the reason that they're pulling

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01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: themselves off is because it's toxic. Twitter has been toxic

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: since the get go. The only problem is largely it's

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01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: been toxic. The toxicity has been aimed at people who

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01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 3: identify with the right right, So it's been lefties who've

1751
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: been really toxic, aiming it at the right. Now what's

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01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: happened to elo So it's been a nasty place for ages,

1753
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 3: but now Elon Musk has taken over. Now the people

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: on the right field and bold, and then they're going

1755
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 3: at the left on Twitter and now the you know

1756
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: left publications like the Guardian don't like it anymore. It's

1757
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 3: been it's not been a very likable place for a

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01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: very long time. Twenty two away from seven he the

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01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: duplice Ellen right. So to the Trump trading. Now these

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01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: things are still riding. The Trump trades are still riding high.

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01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 3: A week on from the U S election. Some of

1762
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: the initial Neuforia show signs of wearing off. A question

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: of course, is now how sustainable all of the stuff is?

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01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 3: And Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us right now. Sam,

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01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 3: Hello to you. Hello, So Sam, run me through who

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: the in your eyes, initially, who the winners and losers

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01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 3: of the Trump's trades were.

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Speaker 21: We're not We're not through Rinston Trump yet, I hope,

1769
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 21: but the winners initially with the US in general, so

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01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 21: it does feel like there's an enormous sucking sound on

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01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 21: equity markets around the world, and all this money is

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 21: flowing out of global equity markets into the US equity

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 21: So now you secuities are up five percent, in Europe's

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Speaker 21: down two, in China's down five, so that's sort of

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01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 21: seven ten percent out performance in a few days is

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01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 21: pretty rare. And then the US dollars has been a

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01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 21: clear winner, appreciating against all comers really, and then within

1778
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 21: the US it's kind of domestic facing make America great.

1779
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 21: US sectors were the initial winners. So steel companies are

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 21: up thirteen percent, US trucking companies up ten. Of course,

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01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 21: big banks up ten percent, but perceived losers still are

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 21: bonds or a loser. People are selling bonds and sold

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01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 21: the companies with sort about ten or fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: How sustainable do you think these moves are?

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean, if we sort of pick on say

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Speaker 21: four of those asset classes, and we start with steel stocks,

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Speaker 21: because they are super interesting. They did rep hire initially,

1788
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 21: so everyone expected the first tariff he would throw on

1789
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 21: China will be steel, like in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 21: But what's super interesting is the steel stocks are now

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Speaker 21: back below where they were before Donald Trump was elected,

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01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 21: and what's happening there is, of course, there's unintended consequent

1793
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 21: bull first and foremost by the way he may not

1794
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,839
Speaker 21: put these tariffs on. Secondly, if you put a tariff

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 21: on Chinese steel steel exports, that drives up US steel price,

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Speaker 21: isn't it. I don't think anyone in the US is

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01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 21: buying steelers suddenly, say ten, fifteen, twenty percent wealthyer and

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01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 21: can afford there. And secondly, kind of what goes around

1799
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 21: comes around. In any anti China policy which impacts the

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Speaker 21: Chinese economy, you've got to remember that the biggest buyer

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01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 21: of steel globally is China. They have ten times the

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 21: demand that the US have, sort of these reflective second

1803
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 21: round impacts. And I guess if you're going no, no, no, no.

1804
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 21: If you go to the I mean US banks, for example,

1805
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 21: giant banks like JP Morgan up ten percent, talking less regulations.

1806
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 21: So for everyone you regulation, you acts ten. But if

1807
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 21: you go to the sort of slightly less fundamental end

1808
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 21: of the spectrum, you know, Keesler baskets of unprofitable tech

1809
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 21: companies and bitcoin all up almost exactly the same amount,

1810
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 21: say twenty five to thirty percent and that tells me

1811
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 21: there's a lot of retail animal spirits at play. So

1812
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 21: recall he was super pro bitcoin. But what I find

1813
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 21: most remarkable of the test move so Trump is made

1814
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 21: the lelon. But that's a very valuable friendship. It's worth

1815
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 21: quarter of a trillion dollars to Tesla's market cap.

1816
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Do you think the dusters, I mean it's

1817
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 3: it's probably too early for the dust to completely have settled,

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 3: right I think so, Yes.

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01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 21: We'll see which tariffy roll rolls out in which order.

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01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 21: But I would wouldn't so much caution but encourage investors

1821
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 21: to look at second and third round impacts. I do

1822
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 21: think that steel stock example is a great example that

1823
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 21: these things don't just happen in a vacuum. There are

1824
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 21: unintended consequences. And the other thing to remember is, you

1825
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 21: know interest rates are moving higher and antit anthicipation of

1826
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 21: a boost to you as economic growth. If that doesn't happen,

1827
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 21: someone will shift there, whether it be interest rates falling

1828
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 21: or equities falling.

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Speaker 3: Sam, I don't want to I mean I want you

1830
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: to tell me all obviously what investors should take away

1831
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: from this, But would one of the things that investors.

1832
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: Wouldn't one of the things be that you actually can't

1833
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: predict what Donald Trump is going to do, and you'd

1834
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 3: be a fool to try.

1835
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Speaker 21: That's rather again, like we said last week, i'man back

1836
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 21: in twenty sixteen, everyone was convinced he wouldn't get in,

1837
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 21: and then in the unlikely event he did, stop markets

1838
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 21: would fall very sharply. Well, they were wrong on both

1839
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 21: counts last time, and here we go again. Stop markets

1840
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 21: are predicting what he's going to do and he hadn't

1841
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 21: even really got a seat under the desk. So let's

1842
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 21: wait and see.

1843
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Hey, Sam, thank you for being a

1844
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 3: cool head in all of this, Sam Dickie Official Funds

1845
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 3: I mentioned a long time ago in this program actually

1846
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: Health New Zealand and never even got around to tell

1847
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: you about it. Health New Zealand never ending source of

1848
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 3: ridiculous things that's going on. The latest thing that Health

1849
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: New Zealand has tried to do, because remember that they're

1850
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 3: having the cost cuts, right, and they're going through and

1851
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 3: finding that they're finding the most bizarre things to cut.

1852
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: And the latest thing they were going to cut is

1853
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: staff access to my low I mean, honestly, how much

1854
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: does staff access to Milow costs if their staff work,

1855
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 3: if their workplace is anything like our workplace, milo is

1856
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: the last thing that people are drinking because they've grown

1857
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 3: ups generally, I mean the espresso coffee that's going down

1858
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 3: at a rate of knots at our workplace, the tea

1859
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: constantly empty, the what's it called instant coffee that goes

1860
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: down quite fast because actually, to be honest, right, I'm

1861
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: not too snobby to have an instant coffee from time

1862
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 3: to time. But the Milo, I mean that probably doesn't

1863
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: get I don't know how often that I would be

1864
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: worried about eating the Milo, because I'd be like it,

1865
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 3: does it get replaced every year or what? So how

1866
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 3: much money did they think they were going to save

1867
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 3: at Health New Zealand. Remember this is Health New Zealand

1868
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: whose other budget cutting proposals were to cut fifteen hundred

1869
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 3: nurses and five hundred doctors. Yeah, cool, good idea, good idea.

1870
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,520
Speaker 3: And also to stop giving mums who've just given birth toast.

1871
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: So now they've got the Milo one anyway, Lester, Lester's

1872
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: probably pulling his hair out at the stage. Lester's the

1873
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: chap who's now the Commissioner. Lester had to send an

1874
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 3: email and be like, we're not going to cut your Milo.

1875
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 3: We're keeping the Milo. Because Lester is really having to

1876
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: parent these guys a sixteen away from seven.

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01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1878
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with Hither Duple c Allen and

1879
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: my HR the HR solution for busy SMEs new stalks

1880
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Speaker 2: abhither for.

1881
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: Your information, they actually have cut the Milo. Oh no,

1882
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 3: oh that that's a rebellion within the ranks. You need

1883
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 3: to because you obviously work at Health New Zealand. You

1884
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 3: need to hit the email and you need to email Lister.

1885
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 3: It's probably something like Lester dot Levy at MH or

1886
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: tefut to order dot govt dot and said anyway, email

1887
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 3: him and tell him they've cut the Milo, because he

1888
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: sent out the email he said that we're going to

1889
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: cut the malo. So he needs to know that that

1890
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 3: Margie's cut the malow because Margine is not the first

1891
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 3: time Margine.

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01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 23: He's got a bit.

1893
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: Rogua is at thirteen away from Steven in the Brady

1894
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 3: UK correspondence with I say, Inda.

1895
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Speaker 19: Hey, Heather, lovely to speak to you again.

1896
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 3: What do you make of the Guardian taking itself off Twitter.

1897
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 19: I absolutely applaud them. It's a toxic platform. It has

1898
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 19: been for a very long time. The abuse of people,

1899
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,480
Speaker 19: the hounding of people. I just put a personal anecdote.

1900
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 19: I think back to when I was ill and I

1901
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 19: couldn't walk, and I was in bed and my daughter

1902
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 19: was taking me to the bathroom. I gave one interview

1903
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 19: to a radio station in Ireland because the producer is

1904
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 19: a very good friend, and I was quite concerned that

1905
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 19: if this new COVID variant had left me on my knees,

1906
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 19: what was it going to do to vulnerable people like

1907
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 19: my sister. So I gave that interview and within an

1908
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 19: hour I had people wishing me dead. You know, when

1909
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 19: you're flatting your back in bed, you're scrolling on a

1910
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 19: phone and there's nothing else to do. I just I

1911
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,719
Speaker 19: remember thinking at the time, Wow, this is a really,

1912
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 19: really toxic platform. Since Musk has taken over, it's got Yeah.

1913
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 19: I can see why the Guardian are doing it. And look,

1914
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 19: I guess people would say, oh, you know, if you're

1915
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 19: a journalist and you're sharing information, you need as many

1916
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 19: platforms as possible.

1917
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: No, you don't.

1918
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 19: Nobody needs Twitter in their life or X or whatever

1919
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 19: he calls it. It is such a toxic, negative place.

1920
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 19: It's just like, you know, imagine being that perpetually angry

1921
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 19: every hour of the day.

1922
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah too.

1923
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 12: Right.

1924
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, because obviously what the Guardian could have

1925
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: done is I mean, I still retain my Twitter account.

1926
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't read what any very occasionally

1927
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 3: I'll go and see, you know, if I need to

1928
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 3: see some stupid thing that some stupid New Zealand politicians

1929
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: tweeted out, then I have the access to that because

1930
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 3: I have an account, right, But I never look at

1931
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 3: what people say to me because I don't need that

1932
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: negativity in my life. But why didn't the Guardian choose

1933
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Speaker 3: to do that, just post it stuff out and never

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Speaker 3: look at it again? Why did they take me? It

1935
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Speaker 3: feels like it taking a stands a stand.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, they're taking a stand against Muskue. I think they're

1937
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Speaker 19: just saying enough is an offer. Look what we're seeing

1938
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Speaker 19: this guy. He's not American. You know, we were told

1939
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Speaker 19: old labor people from the UK interfering in the US elections.

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Speaker 19: You've got a guy going around giving a million dollars

1941
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Speaker 19: out of people to vote for Trump. I mean, you

1942
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Speaker 19: couldn't make this stuff up. So I think what they're

1943
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Speaker 19: doing is just taking a stand. They don't want their

1944
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Speaker 19: name and their brand associated with Twitter or him. And

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Speaker 19: there are plenty of other places out there. And you know,

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Speaker 19: I read the Guardian like I read every other newspaper.

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Speaker 19: They're very good. They've been going since the eighteen hundreds

1948
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Speaker 19: and they're a bastion of British journalism. You know, it

1949
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Speaker 19: is not a bad newspaper.

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Speaker 3: No, it's an excellent newspaper. Actually, all right, tell me

1951
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Speaker 3: about this dynamic pricing at this English public in the

1952
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Speaker 3: London pub, because I don't mind it. You order after team,

1953
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Speaker 3: you get your beer for four backs.

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Speaker 19: No, you get four books added onto your beer. I

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Speaker 19: think this is outrageous. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, dynamic pricing.

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Speaker 19: So so hang on, let me just so. Basically, you

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Speaker 19: buy a beer at nine to fifty nine pm and

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Speaker 19: at sixteen dollars. This is O'Neill's in Soho in London. Yeah,

1959
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Speaker 19: claim to be an Irish pub. It's about as Irish

1960
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Speaker 19: as a penguin. So sixteen dollars of beer at nine

1961
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Speaker 19: point fifty nine you ordered the exact same product a

1962
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Speaker 19: minute later and they're now putting on a four dollars surcharge,

1963
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Speaker 19: so your beer suddenly becomes twenty dollars. And they're saying

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Speaker 19: that this is, you know, in keeping with prices in

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Speaker 19: the area. And I think what they're doing is they're

1966
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Speaker 19: cashing in on the fact that there's probably some luxurious

1967
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Speaker 19: hotels in that area that if you go for a

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Speaker 19: beer very late at night, they will charge you twenty dollars.

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Speaker 19: But you're sitting in a five star hotel surrounded with

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Speaker 19: very glamorous people, and O'Neill's, which is a bang average

1971
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Speaker 19: Irish and inverted commas pub. I think they're cashing in shamelessly.

1972
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Speaker 19: I think it's really really wrong. We've seen dynamic pricing

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Speaker 19: with the Oasis tickets here, basically fleecing working people, and

1974
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Speaker 19: I real concern that other premises will think, hang on,

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Speaker 19: they're doing it.

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Speaker 23: We can do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And not to mention, eighteen o'clock at night, you

1978
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Speaker 3: probably quite drunk, can't you, so you don't realize what

1979
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Speaker 3: just happened to you.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And it's not advertised anywhere, there's no do you know,

1981
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 19: it's not like to tell you coming in that you

1982
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Speaker 19: know by the way we wacker our prices up after

1983
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Speaker 19: ten o'clock. I mean, I don't know. I just honestly

1984
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Speaker 19: I'm dreaming of Christmas in Ireland and our local pub,

1985
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Speaker 19: Martiv is the best pub in Ireland and I can't

1986
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Speaker 19: wait to get back there. And you get the best ginness,

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Speaker 19: the best ginness in the world, and you get change

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Speaker 19: out of ten dollars.

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Speaker 5: How good.

1990
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Speaker 3: We're all dreaming of Christmas in the thanks so much

1991
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Speaker 3: into Brady UK correspondent. Heither in a formal life, I

1992
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: used to supply the Ministry of Health with the tea

1993
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 3: and the coffee and the Milo. They would buy Milo

1994
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 3: by the pellette loads, so I can understand why that

1995
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 3: would be on the radar. It's not as surprising as

1996
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Speaker 3: you might think. How about that these are the health people, Hey,

1997
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 3: these are the people who are all like up in

1998
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 3: your grill about what you're eating and feeding your baby

1999
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 3: and donk you formula and the baby all of that stuff. Yeah,

2000
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Speaker 3: rest his best hold on while I just make myself

2001
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Speaker 3: a suggary little drink. Snapped you de away from seven.

2002
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Speaker 1: Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What

2003
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: will be the impact?

2004
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Speaker 2: It's the business hour with hither Duplessyllen and my HR

2005
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Speaker 2: the HR solution for busy SMEs news.

2006
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Speaker 1: Talks that'd be.

2007
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen to this five away from seven. I don't

2008
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 3: regularly give credit to the people who run public sect,

2009
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: you know, the public transport. I don't give credit to

2010
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 3: public transport in general because I don't actually use it

2011
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 3: that often. So I want to break that habit and

2012
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 3: give some credit to people, and especially I never give

2013
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 3: credit to Auckland transport. But I'm going to break the

2014
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 3: habit of a lifetime. I'm and give them some because

2015
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Speaker 3: one of the best things to happen to public transport

2016
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Speaker 3: in Auckland is happening on Sunday, which is that you

2017
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Speaker 3: from Sunday are going to be able to jump on

2018
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Speaker 3: a bus or a train or a ferry and you'll

2019
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Speaker 3: be able to just whip out your credit card or

2020
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Speaker 3: your debit card or your smartphone however you pay your

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01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 3: bills with like a contactless thing, swipe it like a

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01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 3: wavy thing, and you'll be able to pay to get

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01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 3: on that particular motor transport just by using your credit

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01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 3: card or your debit card or your smartphone or whatever. Now,

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01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 3: up to now, what you've had to do is get

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Speaker 3: a Hop card. Is it what it's called a hop card.

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01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 3: You've had to buy a hopcard. You've had to go

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Speaker 3: down to the Ferry terminal or some such thing and

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01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 3: go and get your ID and then, oh my gosh,

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01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 3: like it's such a pain in the butt that nobody like.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was like, I don't catch the bus

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Speaker 3: in this city because I don't have a help card

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Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna that's too much admin. So now

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Speaker 3: you can just use it. This is brilliant because when

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Speaker 3: you go to Melbourne you jump on the trams there.

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Speaker 3: You got to have a Mikey card, right, so if

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Speaker 3: you go to visit Melbourne. I went to visit Melbourne,

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01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going to buy a Mikey card.

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Speaker 5: Get stuffed.

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01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 3: I just caught the trams for free. I was like, thanks,

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01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 3: you made it too hard. If they did this, you

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01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 3: would pay for the trams. So anyway, all click transport.

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Speaker 3: Not every day I give this tube, but I'm giving

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Speaker 3: this to you. This is going to be wonderful and

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01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 3: it'll bring some cash in and maybe people like me

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Speaker 3: might actually catch the bus every now and again because

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Speaker 3: it's easy to pay for now and it's how good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 29: Just to note as well that you will be paying

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Speaker 29: the adult fair if you use a credit card or

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Speaker 29: you're pay or whatever. So if you're a student or

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01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 29: you're on some kind of concession, keep using the Hot

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01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 29: card if you want to keep getting the discount.

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01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're if you're great.

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Speaker 29: Power, yeah yeah, yeah, I think you're using the Gold card. Yeah,

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01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 29: but you're me hither, you're right, Well, you have to

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Speaker 29: pay that fair anyway. So yeah, Paradise a cold Play

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01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 29: to play us out tonight. I'm not going to fight

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Speaker 29: against the tidle on this one. If it's the best

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Speaker 29: show you've ever been to, we're gonna play it tonight.

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Speaker 29: And then they've got the next show at Eden Park

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Speaker 29: tomorrow as well, so we'll be playing Coldplay tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 6: Mate.

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Speaker 29: It's all about Coldplay here.

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01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 3: One hundred good for them, surprisingly awesome gig. If you

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01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,879
Speaker 3: don't believe me, go read the review in the Guardian

2067
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 3: of Glastonbury and how they were like, what this was awesome?

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01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 3: Everybody has this experience when we go to Coldplay. We're like,

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01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 3: we were expecting that from you. You irritating dad. See

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Speaker 3: you tomorrow. News Talks It'd Be.

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