WEBVTT - "A High Tide Brings All Boats Slightly Higher Up In Buoyancy" 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.159 Cura and welcome back to the Mad Monday Podcast are 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.960 brought to you by four and twenty pies. I'm talking 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.600 about the perfect at home snack for. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:25.160 Watching the rugby League. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:29.880 You're with Die Henward and joining me this week have 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.800 I've had the pleasure of commentating with him on the weekend, 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.839 the wonderful Ben Early, How are you mate? 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.080 Look, I'm a bit gutted if I'm honest. There was 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.000 some hard loss to take in the weekend. I'm sure 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.880 we'll get into it. But not only do we did 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.400 that result happen, but then my other team lost in 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.800 Golden Points straight after it. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.960 I know it was I suppose for impartial rugby league 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.360 fans it was actually a great super Saturday of sport 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.440 because it's always wonderful when the go down to Golden Point, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.360 but they fell on the wrong side of it for 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.560 the fans. And we'll kick off with what was the 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:14.400 Warriors losing in Golden Point to the Dogs thirteen to twelve. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.440 To be honest, Ben, I thought by at a half 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.080 time that we were going to get the chocolates there 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.000 and it felt like everything that could go against us 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.880 did go against us, starting with our back three Dwz, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:36.800 Marcelo Montoya and Charns Nickel Klockstad Or ruling themselves out 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:37.760 of the game with injury. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.119 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen an injury ward 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.560 quite that bad before in a Warriors team. We were 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.160 allowed to get the eighteenth man, and usually there's some 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.600 sort of, you know, a situation where you were allowed 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.440 to have at least two players on the bench. But 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.040 going into an extended time game with only one player 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:02.480 on the bench is pre brutal. And I know, look, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.280 it's it's it's sort of cold comfort. But at least 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.200 we showed a lot of heart in that loss. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.480 Oh you can't, you can't. You can't knock the Warriors. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.800 And to add to your point, it's even more bizarre 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.680 when you lose three players and they're all sort of 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.120 effectively in the same position, if you know what I mean, 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.839 Like you lose the entire back. It's not like you'd 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.799 lose a forward, you lose a center, and you lose 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.239 a winger where you can start plugging holes. They were 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.000 there our whole like get out of the half, and 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.560 then it meant that webe I was listening to the 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.880 press conference, he said he actually missed a lot of 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.400 the game because he spent the whole time not watching 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.280 the ball, watching where players were standing so he could 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.280 figure out who he's actually trying to juggle to there 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.079 and move to there. And I've got it. I'll tell 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.840 you who. I'll give big raps to Freddie Lussek. He 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.200 came out and played in the middle. He was taking 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.399 hit ups, his tackling was amazing. He had that awesome 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.600 steal of the ball where Reed Marney was facing the 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:09.800 wrong way on the play. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.400 And as you. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.520 Said, the Warriors have got to hold their heads up high. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.560 It's going to be a game that comes back to 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.560 haunt us. I think when we look at the standings 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.480 at the back of the year and let's look at 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.720 some positives in this game. How good was Lek a 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.480 halo seema seeing these young boys have good debuts. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.880 Yeah, yeah, I'd put him in the same category as 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.360 as Jacob Laban is having a really strong debut. I 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.440 mean he almost scored like a halo seema. One of 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.640 the great steps of the game to go over the line, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.960 unfortunately was held up. That would have been a dream 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.640 start and we really needed those points at that point. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.680 But yeah, you've got to look at the positives, you know. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.920 I saw that press conference as well, and Webby was 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:01.680 basically going, we've got our resilience back. Unfortunately it's taken 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.520 till this point, well maybe the last I don't know, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:10.720 probably four or five games. We've got our resilience back. Yeah, 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.880 of course you're sorry. It's at the time that was 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.560 a blit. But yeah, I don't know what was going 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.480 on at the start of the season, but we definitely 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.960 didn't have it. I still go back to that Melbourne 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.880 game that we lost in the last second and Xavier 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.680 Coats stumping down in the corner, and I think that 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.280 really dented our confidence for you know, a good sort 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.440 of half a dozen rounds. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:36.479 You're so right. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.320 Also, I looked to the game before that, that Sharks 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.240 game at home that we should have won, where we 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.359 were ahead and we just let them creep back in. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.640 And I was looking back at last year, and it 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:55.640 actually turns out every sort of fifty to fifty momentum 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.159 thing last year went in our favor. We won those 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.960 two to four point games, we got the call, and 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.360 so forth it would go for us, whereas this year 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.400 it's the complete opposite. If the perfect storm can happen 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.479 against us, it seems to happen against us, and the 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.360 perfect storm seems to always actually be the Melbourne storm. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.440 We just can't can't beat. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.920 Them at all, and it's looking a bit rugged now 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:28.000 because even though we can effectively make the eight, we've 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.400 got our two buys, We've got seven games. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:31.839 We need to win six of them. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.480 What's really hurting us is all the teams around us 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:41.040 are actually starting to fire now. Souths are actually on 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.560 a run. It feels like it's just us. We're at fourteenth. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:51.039 It's us, the Titans, the Tigers and Paramatta are sort 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:55.200 of languishing around the bottom, and we're going to have 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.160 to really step up because I do think that eight 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.800 and nine, potentially eight, nine, ten could be on the 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.080 same points at the end of the season, and it's 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.440 going to be points differential. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.039 Yeah. Absolutely. I wanted to go back to the Freddy 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.640 Lussick point because I watched rewatch the game and was 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.080 listening to the mainstream commentary and they started calling him 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:24.280 blocker Lussk, which I think they thought that they were 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.480 giving him a compliment because it was taking hit ups. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.120 But of course we think of blockers a whole different thing. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.560 Oh yeah, as this sort of weird lean and drunkne 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.080 calor a wedding. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:37.280 Yeah, I too. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.440 I couldn't actually bring myself to do a full rewatch 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.120 of that game, as it was so heartbreaking, but I 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:49.040 did the highlights, and it's so tough when you see 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.520 a game like that, and I was trying to look 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.160 for points where we could have won that because I'm 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.359 not one to blame the refs, but we have to 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:06.000 talk about it. This weak, gutted dog, Jamen Salmon and 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:11.239 that shot to add insult to injury. The judiciary cited 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.600 him and he's getting a two to three week band, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.080 so that a two to three week ban says that that's. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.280 A simmenable offense. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.240 It was in front of the sticks with what a 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.200 few minutes to go in Golden Point. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.240 Yeah, I mean that was the game. That was the game. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.560 I don't know why the bunker couldn't have stepped in, like. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:40.160 Because also he was spitting out teeth in a broken 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.320 jaw to Marty Martin, I was worried his jaw was 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.520 broken the way the trainer was wobbling it. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.440 Oh, if you, if you do anything to Mighty Martin's face. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.440 I will literally I will find out who you are, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.880 where you live. I will hunt you down, and I 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:56.480 will kill you. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.440 Because there is two there's two issues on this one. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.000 His shoulder made high contact as well, even if his 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.840 shoulder didn't make high contact, it was a reckless head clash. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.200 He ran out of the line with reckless intent and 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:13.920 hit him late. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.920 So that annoyed me. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:21.960 Also, what I only spied on the highlights when you 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.200 know when Reed Marney got his hand up and touched 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.800 the ball to stop it going over, he was a 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.400 meter and a half off side. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.760 Oh, at least three meters off side, And. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.280 I mean the referee puts the whistle away at that point. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:43.040 But it's just so frustrating that the two moments basically 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.840 won the drop goal would have won us to a 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.480 penalty would have won it for us, and they. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.800 Were both on illegal plays. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.000 And three Matt Burton, who now has won the game 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.120 two weeks in a row with a drop goal. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:08:59.800 He's a flat earther. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:07.040 What so last year Matt Burton came out very bizarrely 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.520 in a press conference and said, and I'm not a 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.320 lot of what this matter is busy earth flat So anyway, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.720 people thought he was joking. Then in an interview last 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.559 week they hit him up about it and he actually 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:26.680 started citing sources about why the Earth's flat, and weirdly, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.000 the source he cited as a scientific experiment. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.040 Where the conclusion actually proves the Earth is round. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.920 Okay, this is a whole other dimension that I had 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:43.040 not affected him. So, I mean, I don't reckon that. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.440 You know, like a Doggies fan traditionally not a New 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:52.640 Zealand Doggies fan, but a Sydney, Australia Canterbury fan is 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.640 generally not, you know, the most smart person on Earth. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.960 No, the traditionally, traditionally. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:07.719 Bulldogs fans are often immigrants from Europe. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.040 All right, this doesn't make me sound good. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.880 No, No, like just hardcore, working class. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.320 Yeah, they just I just find all I think of 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.120 when I think of the Bulldogs, like their nineties fans 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.199 that were just rabid and when they got a female 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.959 CEO just basically you know, did everything to try and 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.600 get her ousted, and she's a legend for sticking with 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.920 the job, to be honest, But I didn't think that 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.400 they were quite down to flat Earth believers. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.800 There should be an episode of the ex files about 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:47.920 Matt Burton. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.080 Scullery Scalar of Moldy. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.120 Molder not Moldy Scollar. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.280 Do you say Scalar and Moldy Scalar. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:00.959 And Maory. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:06.400 Sculler and Murray are there's a real different files. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.040 That is a rural New Zealand X files Sculler and Murray. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.760 We said before, We've said before that game, we said 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.360 it might be the actual real test of the season 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.320 because the Dogs were six. I think they put someone 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.320 to eat, like something like fourth now in the table. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.920 The Dogs are flying at the moment, and to be honest, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.440 full credit to what Cameron Sireldo has done in that 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.280 side because they defended their asses off. Like the point 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.920 I was getting to before is outside of the reed 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.280 money off side and that high shot. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.040 By Jamon Salmon. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.160 We got over the line twice and were held up. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:12:00.480 We had some very sloppy end of sets when we 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.880 were on attack there. Granted, it becomes very hard to 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.959 run your shape when your wingers and your fullback are 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.000 both off. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.800 Also, Roger two of us a sheeck. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.600 Had that he dropped a bomb that was a bit 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.760 of a momentum shift that thankfully didn't come back to 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.160 hurt us because I believe with Sam Hughes and knocked 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.600 it on very soon afterwards. But we did have our 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.600 opportunities to ice that game. 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.040 Yes, But then so did Canterbury. I suppose, like we're 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.000 talking about the old flat earther, he hit the post 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.880 what twice before it actually went over? 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.200 Yeah, he was in front a couple of times. And 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.880 our credit to us, our defense was pretty epic. We 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.360 only let in what a try off, a kick and 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.640 an intercept, Like it wasn't that we had weak defense, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:02.520 Like they just read that beautifully on that short ball 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.280 to Marty Martin was trying to throw. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.440 So do we have to die? Do we have to 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.480 face facts? Is that the season? 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.360 I mean, I'm reticent to say it, but I think 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:20.840 it is. I mean I have sort of been I've 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:28.400 been secretly girding my loins for this moment that the 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.280 season was falling away. And I think it's just a 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.800 bit too far to try and win six from seven. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.520 Well, to win the competition now, they literally have to 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.000 win every single game except one, well now and the 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.400 first weekend in October. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:50.320 Yes, and no, and none of those that loss cannot 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.080 happen in the finals, is there we even because we can't. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.240 We can't make the top four, so we'd have to 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.040 sneak into the bottom of it. No team has won 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.120 the competition from the bottom of the eight before, so 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:11.040 I think it's a bridge too far. I think we 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.560 need to go on a run though, like to keep 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.040 some positivity around the side. I think it's now. Now 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.280 is the time. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:22.360 To give. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.120 Boys like Lecqua Hala Sima Graham, Mola Tulfa Ali, Leahtawer 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.760 all these boys some game time to be honest. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.760 Yeah, absolutely, I mean, who do we know who we're 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.040 losing next season? Are we losing anyone major? 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.680 So I think it's more young guys they haven't given 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.880 contracts to where the biggest loss obviously is AFB, but 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.560 that's nullified because James Fisher Harris is coming. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.440 What I worry about is I think that. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.200 We thought this year was our chance to win the 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.760 comp hence buying Roger two of arsus K. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.680 And Kirk Capewell. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.640 And the worry is I think both of them are 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.040 on three year deals and whether in that third. 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.640 Year of the deal whether they'll be worth their. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.200 Sult because I mean they're both amazing behind the scenes 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.680 in terms of old heads for the young guys, showing 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.400 them how to train, how to be a professional athlete, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.800 how to be a professional league player. Two of us 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.720 are Sheck's amazing at that. But then I will worry 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:38.240 whether they're holding out these young guys from their positions, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.280 and then the young guys look elsewhere. I also hear 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.640 that there's six clubs trying assigned to Martin Martin at 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:45.400 the moment. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.520 Really because how old is he? He would be thirty with. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.960 Me, yeah, but bear in mind he had four years 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:58.560 three years out with that, so his body hasn't taken 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.600 the toll of those three year Oh yeah, good, and 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.600 halves go a bit longer, and we've got this worry 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.640 of of Sean Johnson's there next year and he's fit, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.360 and to Marty's not getting game time because we've got 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.840 these four halves now, ht metcalf to Marty Martin and 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.920 Sean Johnson. Just yeah, and just looked to Marty Martin 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.440 up on tender he's twenty eight. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.680 Yeah, so he's thirty eight in real life. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:33.400 Then okay, so he's still got quite a few years 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.560 left to them. But let's let's we should move on 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.120 but let's talk quickly about c HT. Like he is 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.320 a little bit of rocks and diamonds at the moment. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.160 He had some lovely moments, particularly on defense in that game, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.520 but there was he basically butchered a try with the 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.920 I thought there was no real like butcher you know 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.000 tries or whatever, and now, but there was really because 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.800 he did that terrible no lock pass. Oh yeah, basically 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.400 clear and threw the ball over the sideline. But you know, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.600 having said that, I still I still rate a massively 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:07.199 as a player. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.960 This is a bit of the I think that this 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.320 was a great example of neither HT or to Marty 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:20.520 Martin had a thoroughly good game, Like they didn't connect 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.280 like they had in the previous sort of outings together. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.320 And it's an and I mean that I think that's 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:32.119 also because the Dogs were a better defensive side, and 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.399 I mean, we were sort of raking it over the coals. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.280 But that was a game we should have won. I 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.439 think if we're at home, we win that game. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.240 Yeah. I think if the ref was looking at the 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.679 right goddamn direction, we won that game. But yeah, I 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.639 mean they actually said it on the other commentary as well. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.960 In that golden point. They said the refs put his 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:55.960 whistle in his sock. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.840 Yeah, and I mean Corey Parker was pretty adamant that 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:01.840 that was a penalty. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.640 Yeah, well, obviously was a penalty. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.480 And today later this afternoon, no doubt, Graham and Isley 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.480 will give it the we'll give it the okay, guys, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:14.960 sorry about that. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.280 That should have been a penalty. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:18.520 Yeah, we've got two points, duck. 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.880 I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.240 But we have a bye this week, guaranteed two points, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:30.240 and then we will be back next Monday to discuss 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:36.400 the Raiders game, which will be a very interesting game 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:41.200 because the Raiders are very much Rocks and Diamond side 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.000 and we're playing that at Goo Stadium. It feels like 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.480 our home games are very few and far between. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.960 Hey, they all seem to be three or four weeks apart. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.120 Oh, I thought we were doing the whole playing over 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.240 there buzz like we did during COVID. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.440 Now yeah, no, there. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.960 The NRL is reward barding us with less than half 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.840 of the games at home. For some reason, were the 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.960 only side that won't get half of our games at 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.640 home because and there's. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.080 Something I heard something like the six of the last 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.080 seven of the Cowboys games are all at home. Yeah. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:22.160 And so in round seventeen we had only had six 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.560 games at Mount Smart. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.600 Yeah, and had we had one in christ yeah. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.040 And one in christ Children. But still half of seventeen 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:31.960 is not seven. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.000 No, you're right, But and what Brisbane. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:41.640 Brisbane didn't leave no Queensland for four months. They've only 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.840 left Queensland once so far. I think it's I mean. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.800 I think they've been on the road now and they're losing. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.920 Yeah, I mean Brisbane are having a bit of a 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:51.879 bit of a shambles. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:52.960 I think they'll fall out. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.520 It's anyone's competition that this except ours left ourse. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.840 Well, that's what Manaia and I were about last week 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.679 is that it's such a weird random year, more so 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:09.199 than usual that when it happens like that, generally the 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.360 Melbourne Storm win because they're the most consistent side. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.359 Yes, And I was looking at the looking at the 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.480 table and I was like, huh, Melbourne at top of 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:25.600 the table four points clear. Yeah, that's one thirteen games. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.919 And also they haven't actually looked very good. There's a 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.679 lot of these games they just sneak over the line. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.920 They're leading Penrith, who were on twenty six points Roosters 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:43.879 twenty four. To be honest, Melbourne Penrith and the Roosters 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280 look so far ahead of any of the other teams 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.040 at the moment. They just seem to be, you know, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.879 if the games are close at halftime, they seem to 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.159 be those sides that look like they're just playing with 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.600 their food a bit and then when they actually knuckle down, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.000 they just put the points on. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.119 But we'll put that Warriors side game to bed. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.880 And everyone who's listening, I want to tell you about 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.160 the four and twenty four pack prize pack. Each month 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.600 the Mad Monday team, that's us. We're giving away four 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.159 tickets to the next home game and four four and 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.560 twenty PI vouchers to enter. Just text the monthly keyword 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.080 to three two three six. Listen to podcast steps to 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.440 find out what that keyword is. 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The Golden Point wasn't quite as frantic 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.080 as the game before it, the Warriors game. It was. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.520 It was, It was real good, but it actually kind 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.240 of got overshadowed by a better Stonker, which was the 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:42.960 Warriors game. 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.280 Yeah, completely, the Warriors was the Stonker. 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.640 And also watching this game, it felt like it went 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:54.080 to Golden Point in actual time because they sort of 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.440 got into a drop goal off with about five minutes 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:04.480 to go, and then so this is I I might 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.480 be off by one or two games. This is the 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.760 ninth time Daily Chair Evans has won it in Golden 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:11.720 Point for Manly. 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.160 He just knows how to ice those big games. 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.400 Now, the Warriors don't really have a great iss year 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.639 when it comes to drop goals. I think every I think, 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.080 I think every time we've won in Golden Point it's 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.920 been with a try or not completely but almost every 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.760 time right. But the Cowboys had almost too many people 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.640 going for drop goals. I loved the idea. They had 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.680 the decoy and it went to Vale Holmes who marked 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.080 it up. It was a great looking play, but the 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.720 execution wasn't there. But they had so many people lining up. 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.840 Manly only really had one. And that's all you need 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.800 when you've got the greatest golden point drop goal specialist. 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.720 Yeah that mad, That was the thing is I felt. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.320 I felt the Cowboys actually overplayed their hand a little 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:05.440 bit in that when they should have just muscled up 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:06.920 and nailed it. 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:08.400