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Speaker 1: In New Zealand is future proofing to avoid a pilot shortage.

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Speaker 1: The airline today announced a pilot cadet program where thirty

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Speaker 1: future pilots will be trained on a fast track pathway

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Speaker 1: paid for by Air New Zealand. The course will be

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Speaker 1: cut from up to three years down to fourteen months.

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Speaker 1: Captain Dave Morgan is Air New Zealand's Chief Operational Integrity

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Speaker 1: and Safety Officer and with us now, Hey Dave.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Heather, how I am well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Do you normally train your own pilots.

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Speaker 2: No, this is the first. We've never done it before,

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Speaker 2: so this is quite unique for in New Zealand setting

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Speaker 2: up the first ever caadetship program for the airin.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's fair bit of infrastructure you'd have to set up, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It will be these two parts to it. First part

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Speaker 2: is to send some cadets offshore. We'll be doing thirty

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Speaker 2: in tranches of six over the next year or so

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Speaker 2: up to Arizona and then on to Dubai for the

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Speaker 2: completion of their training. That'll take fourteen months. And while

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Speaker 2: that's going on, we've released today expressions of interest to

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Speaker 2: the aviation industry, to training organizations, to set up and

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Speaker 2: work in partnership with us to set up the get

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Speaker 2: ETCHA program here in museum.

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Speaker 1: Why did you guys decide to do this.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a global shortage of pilots and that shortages

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Speaker 2: just continue to grow over time. Airlines are expanding in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand will grow and also there's an aging pilot

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Speaker 2: issue as well, with guys requiring and what have you.

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Speaker 2: Not short of pilots at the moment, but we do

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Speaker 2: need to future proof, as you said, the supply lines

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Speaker 2: of pilots to the airline. What this will do in

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Speaker 2: actual fact, we'll deliver something between twenty five and thirty

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Speaker 2: percent of the annual requirement of pilots for the airline

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Speaker 2: per year and we expect it to be an enduring

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Speaker 2: process going forward. So quite exciting and.

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Speaker 1: Very vote And why fast track.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the reality is that the process at

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Speaker 2: the moment and the traditional processes, pilots go to a

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Speaker 2: training school and it typically takes a couple of years

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Speaker 2: to to get their qualification and then they have to

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Speaker 2: go and then do extra hours flying with a thirty

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Speaker 2: air line before they can come to air New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: If they do an immersive course that's associated with the

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Speaker 2: airline itself under the regulatory system, they can then once

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Speaker 2: they return to New Zealand start flying with the airline immediately.

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Speaker 2: So that's the difference between the fourteen hours that the

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Speaker 2: cadets will take and then the sort of two and

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Speaker 2: a half years that typically pilot going through the normal

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Speaker 2: system will take.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to get dud pilots because they

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Speaker 1: haven't done the full course.

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Speaker 2: Are we. No? No, No, The many airlines around the

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Speaker 2: world actually do training in a similar sort of way,

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get to top quality pilots that

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Speaker 2: are coming through the system. Are we going on too?

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Speaker 2: The ATR that's the airplane that flies somewhere between Kerry

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Speaker 2: Carey and the northern Vicago to the south, and they'll

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Speaker 2: be in the right hand seat of the aircraft from

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Speaker 2: day one, So really really exciting.

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Speaker 1: Cool. Hey, by the way, while I've got you, what

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Speaker 1: did you make of Singapore Airlines offering that compo for

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Speaker 1: the turbulence?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. We're obviously monitoring that. The reality is

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Speaker 2: compensation for passengers is actually governed under a convention that's

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Speaker 2: known as the Montreal Convention, which New Zealand is a

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Speaker 2: country is a signatory to that under the International Civil

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Speaker 2: Aviation Organization, the liability of each areas and the compensation

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Speaker 2: to be paid to passengers actually is actually defined through

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Speaker 2: that process. And notwithstanding what the Singapore Airlines have done,

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Speaker 2: of course is obviously still the investigation to be completed

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Speaker 2: and in other matters to be considered undoubtedly by the

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Speaker 2: legal system. But I think it's an appropriate thing for

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Speaker 2: the airline to have obviously done that there was a

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Speaker 2: significant event for a lot of people, and as a

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Speaker 2: consequence of that obviously had to be appropriate rempedy needed

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Speaker 2: to be considered by the airline for those customers.

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Speaker 1: And you of the view, which is something that's come

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Speaker 1: out of Reading University, that this share air turbulence is

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Speaker 1: going to get a whole lot worse now because of

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Speaker 1: climate change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I am of the view that the atmosphere

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Speaker 2: is becoming more energetic as a result of global warming,

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Speaker 2: and the reality is that with more heat in the atmosphere,

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Speaker 2: you get more convective cloud which is probably the root

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Speaker 2: cause of what's occurred here with Singapore air Lines, and

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Speaker 2: that means that clouds are building and this aeroplane obviously

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Speaker 2: either flew very close to one that was building or

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Speaker 2: flew into it and that caused the clear inturaberance which

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Speaker 2: has resulted in these injuries. So yeah, I am of

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Speaker 2: the view that we need to be more cognizant of

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Speaker 2: the risks associated with clear interbreance, and my message to

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Speaker 2: our customers, as we do when we flown their aplane,

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Speaker 2: is to strongly advise our customers to always have the

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Speaker 2: seat out for us and the emphasilt sign it's not illuminated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're all sorry to understand why, David,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much appreciated Captain David Morgan of Air

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Speaker 1: New Zealand.

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