1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Organizers have called off the Garza protest across Auckland's Harbor 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Bridge tomorrow. They say it's for safety reasons because of 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: forecast high winds. A march will still go ahead. It'll 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: start at ol Tar Square and head over to Victoria 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Park in the City Central, a Central City, but organizers 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: say they're still committed to making that bridge march happen, 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: just on another day. Stephan Cigar is the relieving White 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Matar District commander and with us, Hey, Stephan. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Afternoon, heaven have they made the right call here? Ah? Yes, absolutely, 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: and acknowledge the organizers have taken our advice this afternoon. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: We're expecting some pretty big gust winds tomorrow, seventy commerce plus, 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: so it's just not a feasible environment for pedestrians on 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: the bridge tomorrow. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: Is it still open to cars? 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: Yes, as far as i'm we're it's still open to 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: cave Okay. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Now, is it the case that police that NZTA originally 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: said no to this, to opening the bridge to the protesters, 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: and police overrode that decision. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: No, that's not quite correct. No permit was issued to 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: the organizers and NCTA referred them back to US but 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: when you have twenty thousand plus and people intent on 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: crossing the bridge, you were left with, you know, balancing 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: out sort of maintaining safety of everyone involved and fatilitating 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: a peaceful protest. So that was sort of the problem 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: we were faced and have been working with those organizers 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: over the last few weeks to plan our response. 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: So let me get this right. So ZITTA did not 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: issue them a permit. No, that's great, correct, Which is 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: that NZTA said. 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: No, NCTA have referred them back to us. 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Yes, no permit and then they came to you and 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: you I said yes. 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: So we're left with that problem of twenty thousand people 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: who are quite intent crossing the bridge. What we're seeing 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: internationally in Australia that significant numbers turned out for that 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: purpose recently, and so we needed to make a plan 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: on how to best facilitate those protesters or sorry, those demonstrateds. 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Isn't What are you saying to me that they would 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: have crossed regardless, Like if you guys had said no, 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: they would have just gathered and done it. 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, look, our primate role is the safety of emone involved, 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: and that's motorists place stuff and the people are planning 44 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: to walk, so we would need to put in place 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: plans around that, and on this particular occasion, we were 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: planning for potential for facilitation across the bridge. 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Why would you need to shut down the entire like 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: the whole southbound lanes rather? Is it the Alklyn Marathon 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: just shuts a couple, doesn't it. 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: Yes, so obviously the northbound lanes were still we're still operating. 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: But what we've learned and the advice from ZTA is 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: that the clip on lanes is they termed, aren't actually 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: designed for pedestrian traffic, and so there's some danger with that, 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: and so we needed to use the center span. 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: I see. Okay, Hey, thanks Stefan, I appreciate it. 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