1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Speaking of a sleep. That's what the property market's been lately. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: But jeep, we're celebrating this morning because, wait for it, 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: September property prices, according to Cotality, showed some increase zero 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: point one percent. This brings an end to five straight 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: months of waning property values. Joining me this morning, Nick Tuff, 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: the ASB chief econdoms Nick, good morning, good morning, Good 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: to have you on. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Is this? 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's monthly data. It's zero point one percent. 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Will the real estate agents be cracking out the champagne? 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: Do we think? 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I think at the moment we've been looking 13 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: for really excuse we could. When it comes to the 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: housing market, it is one tenth percent. But when you 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: look at various housing measures, we did have a bit 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: of a burst of activity where prices were lifting slightly 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: late last year early this year, and things didn't look 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: like they peetered out. So if we do start to 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: see the property market picking up, it's one of those 20 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: economic signs that people are starting to get out of 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: the infrastrate hibernation that they've been in for a while. 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: The regions doing well, a bay of plenty. What do 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: you put that down to? 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Well, when read our ASP Regional School Board. We actually 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: had the Bay of Plenty at the top. And one 26 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: thing that when you're looking around the country at the moment, 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: you tend to see areas that have had good, good 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: export incomes or tourism have done well. And that's the 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: pending example was two bumper seasons of Kerry Freed exports. 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: For example, are people buying you mentioned tourism, are people 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: buying homes there to rent for tourism like Airbnb? 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, with Torong, it's probably more around the income that's 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: come through. We've seen jobs lifting up, retail spending lifting 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: up there. For example, the bottom of the South Island 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: had a really great run. And one thing I've put 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: that down to is around the central Lakes and the 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: spillover effects around the region would be that tourism. It's 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: not just the people coming and wanted to buy properties, 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: but also the need for workers as well. So that's 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: something in recent years where the lakes, even though it's 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: come off the boil this time, now it's hit that 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: population pressure and that needs for housing. 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Nick, what's the lag everyone in the big cities this 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: morning I'll be thinking, well, that's great for Toling and 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: great for Southend. But what's the lag between because normally 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: it's the other way around. Auckland would lead a property 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: price resurgence and then the regions would follow. This time, 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: it seems like it's in verse. When will the city 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,279 Speaker 1: start to see something. 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: We will start to see something, I think over time. 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: One challenge with Auckland and particularly Wellington, as they've gone through, 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: they went through big booms, they went through big, big busts. 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: One challenge that we do have a number of markets. 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: There's actually a lot of stock sitting on the market, 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: so we actually need more activity. We need the sales 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: activity to pick up start eating into that stock on 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: the market doesn't really get some sort of more noticeable 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: lists and prices, so supply versus demand, there's a lot 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: of supply. People are still being a little bit cautious 60 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: and we've seen that in house sales recently that they've 61 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: actually edged back down, so people haven't sort of quite 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: got out and embraced a sort of buying crem at 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: the moment. 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: Be fair to say, Nick, appreciate your time this morning. 65 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: Nick Touughy, ASP Chief Economist. 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