1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: We're going to our UK correspondent Devin Gray, who's standing 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: by Gavin. Good evening, Good evening to you, Rah, good 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: morning to you. I should say, the UK Chancellor is 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: off to talk with the European leaders. Why has this 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: got some feeling about gittery. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Because it is the first meeting between Chancellor of the 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: UK in this case Rachel Reeves and the European counterparts. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: And the reason it's got people jittery here is that 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: is the first meeting that's been organized talking of breaking 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: down barriers to trade in closer, a resetting of relationships, 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: closer relationships, and it's the first meeting since Brexit. So 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: many Brexiteers believe that this may be a sort of 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: soft way of trying to pave the way to closer 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: links to the EU and a potential unraveling of Brexit. 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Now there'll be some that think, well, good, you know, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: that's what we need. But this is going to be 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: extremely difficult for this government to try and sort of 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: tack a path, a middle ground path. It has repeatedly 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: said that it does not want to rejoin the Bloc. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: But this government has since it got elected in July 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: repeatedly says it does want to deepen ties with the EU. Well, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: that's good. Everyone of course will be happy if there's 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: better trade. The problem is twofold. The first, really, I 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: think is that it looks like Donald Trump is going 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: to want to sort of either you choose the US 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: or you choose the EU kind of decision from the UK. 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: We'll wait to see that that is likely or unlikely, 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: but many people believe he's going to be much much 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: better for the UK if we decide to sort of 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: lean towards him more in the Americas rather than European Union. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: But another big problem, of course is that the European 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: Union may want something back in return if we decide 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: that we want things from them, And of course the 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: big question is what would the UK give up for that. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: So Reggieve's talking to those leaders a little later on today. 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Interesting and the Notre Dame Cathedral has held it first 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: mess since it reopened. 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and a really really big ceremony as you could imagine, 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: that was for the VIPs, but its first mass in 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: those five years is a massive, massive mark. And it 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: was one of those occasions when France sort of went 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: all out on a big push, as you could imagine, 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: and there were bishops from around the world, one hundred 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: and seventy bishops plus one priest from each of the 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Paris is of the Paris Diocese. The work that's gone 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: on for five years, costing what's said to be getting 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: on for about one point eight billion New Zealand dollars, 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: which has mostly come from donations around the world, involved 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: some two thousand masons and carpenters, a restorers, roofers, sculptors, 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: engineers on this project since that awful fire which saw 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: it virtually gutted as a building. And of course the 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: French President Emmanuel Macron in the mass as well part 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: of the liturgy, and he was no doubt hoping that 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: this would, you know, be some positive news for him 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: after a fortnight of political turmoil with the resignation of 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: his prime minister and complete instability and chaos at the 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: heart of government in France. At the moment, all eyes 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: were on the guest list for the VIP opening, which 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: had a which went ahead prior to that first mass. 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: Donald Trump from America there and interesting choice. France, I 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: think desperate to get better relations as well with the US, 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: of course, but Donald Trump meeting Prince William for the 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: first time, or rather bath for another time, rather but 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: meeting him at that event and then telling everyone else 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: in the crowd what a good man he was. It's 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: an underwo unusual way of soft diplomacy here, right. 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: What happened when a fifteen year old Australian flew to 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the UK just to see a local derby between Liverpool 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: and Eberton. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Oh great story this so the Mackenzie kinsella fifteen years 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: old and from Sydney, a huge fan of Everton football 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: team up in the northwest of England. His parents said no, 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: we can't afford you to go, it's too expensive. So 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: he started to save, save, save money like mad and 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: wanted to come and watch Everton play their final match 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: at their historic Goodison Park home stadium before they move. 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: And it's the last derby. That's the local match between 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: Liverpool and Everton that he wanted to come and see. Well. 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Sadly he coincided his visit and that derby coincided with 80 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: a huge storm sweeping through the UK and most unusually, 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: that football match was called off and postponed because of 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: the storm and the strong winds. Naturally, he couldn't believe 83 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: it had come all the way here spend all his 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: money anyway. As he said himself, every cloud has a 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: silver lining. The captain of the Everton team saw his 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: plight in the media and on social media, and he's 87 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: been invited to meet the team personally today and see 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: them at their training ground and well, as you can imagine, 89 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: as he said, every cloud, how's a silver app. 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Soon he sounds like a Vivan. Thank you very much 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: for that. 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