1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Heather Duke for ZL. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Now, the government's confirmed they're bringing in tests for school 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: kids from the very first year that the kids are 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: in class, So new year one students are going to 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: be tested twice in their first years just to see 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: how they're going with the phonics, and then from year 7 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: three to the year eight they're going to be tested 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: twice a year for progress on reading, writing, and maths. 9 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Erica Stanford is the Education Minister. 10 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Hey Erica, good after know and how are you? 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you. Are teachers on board. 12 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: With this, but we were really cautious and careful in 13 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: our approach with us that we want parents to have 14 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: really good information about how their children are progressing through school, 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: but we also wanted to make sure that we weren't 16 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: putting more burden on teachers. We've chosen tools that teachers 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: already know, already use, and we're going to be investing, 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of PLD to make sure that 19 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: all of the upskilling that we may need to do 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: in the center that we do over the next year. 21 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that, given that ninety percent 22 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: of schools are doing this in some way already, there's 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: a level of acceptance from teachers and educators that it 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: needs to happen. 25 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh, look, I absolutely think there is a level of acceptance. 26 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Most schools are doing assessments and using tools, and they're 27 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: doing it in a really good way. But ero have 28 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: been saying for a long time that there is no consistency. 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: We don't use consistent tools, and that while some schools 30 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: are using assessment data to inform practice really well, there 31 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: are many other schools who are doing it sort of averagely, 32 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and then a number of schools who aren't doing it 33 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: very well at all. And so we just want to 34 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: make sure it's consistent across the country and we'll put 35 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: in resource where it's needed to upscool those teachers in 36 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: schools to make sure that they are using assessment data effectively. 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: What happens if the kids are falling about behind, if 38 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the tests show that they need a little bit of help. 39 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: This is the whole purpose of assessment, because, as you know, 40 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: assessment on its own is going to do nothing. The 41 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: whole purpose of assessment is to make sure that early on, 42 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: as early as you can in year one, which is 43 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: why we're doing the phonics check. In year one, you 44 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: can tag those students who are not progressing as expected 45 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: and put that early intervention in place, which is what 46 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: we're doing with structured literacy in terms of our small 47 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: groups and one on one interventions. These phonics checks, for example, 48 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: will trigger that early intervention. Currently, we wait till the 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: kids are age fifteen. Forty percent of them can't pass 50 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: literacy and numeracy as you spok, and then we go, 51 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: oh dear, we want to get to them in year 52 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: one and get them on the right track and say 53 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: to parents, this is how they're progressing. These are the 54 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: interventions that are putting in place and give parents more 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: knowledge about how their children are progressing. 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, lover Erica. Thank you. Erica stands for 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: the Education Ministry. For more from Heather Duplassy Allen Drive, 58 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: listen live to news talks. 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