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Speaker 1: Luke Holmes is the biggest name in country music. He

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Speaker 1: is the Fairy Tales story, dropped out of college, moved

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Speaker 1: to Nashville. The rest is full of Grammy nominations, records

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Speaker 1: broken in stadiums, full of fans. His new album is

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Speaker 1: Fathers and Sons and Luke Colmes as well as from Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, likewise, Bud, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm very well. Indeed, let me catch up from last

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Speaker 1: time because we didn't talk when you were last here,

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Speaker 1: but you went I am told hunting and you went

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Speaker 1: to see the All Blacks. Taught me through the hunting.

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Speaker 1: First of all, how was it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. It was a lot

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Speaker 3: We were in the South Island and man, it was

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Speaker 3: just really really beautiful down there. Never seen anything quite

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Speaker 3: it was so much fun. We had such a great

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Speaker 1: And your rugby experience, what position did you play and

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Speaker 1: how good were you?

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Speaker 3: One in a three? So one or three depended on

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Speaker 3: depending on the game. To be honest, I mean I was.

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Speaker 2: I was not bad. I wasn't great. You know, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have I wouldn't have made the I wouldn't made.

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Speaker 3: The All Blacks by any any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: But I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Man. I like to hit people.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough to I listened to your CEC song how

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Speaker 1: Big of Football? And when we say football, we mean NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now for a sec purposes college, I've been listening to

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Speaker 1: the SEC song. That's brilliant. How did that come about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about the Petty Yeah, yeah, that came

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Speaker 3: about through you know, when they were putting that whole

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Speaker 3: Is a massive Petty fan, right, I am, of course

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Speaker 2: So that was always playing in our house growing up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you're when you're you know, eight

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Speaker 3: know whatever. You know, anything your parents listen to is

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Speaker 3: not cool when you're you know, eight or nine years old,

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Speaker 3: And then after hearing it so many times, you kind

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, so I jumped at the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: It was you know, it was a really cool thing

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Speaker 2: And it was fun. It's fun experience, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about your junny in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I noticed on you social the

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Speaker 1: again is the NFL. Well, I hate you as a

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm a huge Panthers fan. For better or worse.

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Speaker 3: We're the worst team in the NFL as of right now.

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Speaker 3: over here in the States, we play NFL stick right.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just.

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Speaker 2: So it was cool, man, It's cool getting to go

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: So I just try to appreciate, you know, every opportunity

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Speaker 3: But you know, it just I've been singing my whole life,

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Speaker 1: And kepture. So I've been a country music fan my

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Speaker 1: Yes they've been popular, but it's never been your popular.

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Speaker 1: It's not stadium popular. Encapsulate for us what you've been

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Speaker 1: Well all is. I hope you're enjoying it, And what

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Speaker 2: So we had to you know, we had.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic listen, a joy to meet and talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Go well, enjoy and let us know when you're coming

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Speaker 1: and we'll catch up.

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Speaker 2: Then maybe, yes, sir Mike Wise, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Bud, there we go bloo coms out of Nashville this morning.

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