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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's hither

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Speaker 1: duplic ellend drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected us talk said.

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Speaker 3: B Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show. Coming up today.

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Speaker 3: The government's released its next action plan list heapes.

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Speaker 4: Of it focuses on law and orders.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to talk to Bowl Goldsmith about it.

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Speaker 3: He's the relevant minister. The boss of Kayeing Order aka

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Speaker 3: Housing New Zealand has quit or it's been told to quit.

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Speaker 3: We're going to speak to the chair and we'll tell

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Speaker 3: you about the big goldfine down south. Before we got

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Speaker 3: to Nikola Willis the Finance Minister.

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Speaker 2: Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm loath to start the week's so I apologize

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Speaker 3: with yet another thing that's broken in this country right now.

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Speaker 3: But I've got to be honest with you. I am

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Speaker 3: so sick and tired of this particular argument that I

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Speaker 3: just want to propose a solution to it so that

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Speaker 3: we can do the thing.

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Speaker 2: And then move on.

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Speaker 3: If the government or you know, Health New Zealand is

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Speaker 3: not prepared to put decent amounts of money into our GPS,

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Speaker 3: can they please just give the GPS permission to charge

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Speaker 3: us whatever they want, so the situation can be fixed

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Speaker 3: at the moment. How it works is that gps get

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Speaker 3: x amount of money per person from Health New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: and then of course you pay a little bit more

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Speaker 3: the book books balance right. But Health New Zealand tells

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Speaker 3: those gps basically how much extra they are allowed to

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Speaker 3: charge you. It's never enough. It hasn't been enough for

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Speaker 3: what like six or seven years or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Gps have been complaining about it this whole time, and

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Speaker 3: once again this year it's still not enough. Health New

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Speaker 3: Zealand are going to give the gps a four percent

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Speaker 3: increase and then they're going to allow them to charge

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Speaker 3: seven six percent. So, for example, it means that the

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Speaker 3: seventy five dollars that I get charged when I go

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Speaker 3: to about eighty one dollars. And yep, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of money. There's a lot of money to go to

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Speaker 3: the GP and pay eighty one bucks. But frankly it's

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Speaker 3: probably not enough for most of the gps because they

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Speaker 3: have been underfunded for so long if you listen to them,

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Speaker 3: there are practices that are now already insolvent or on

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Speaker 3: today complaining to the media that his doctor won't see

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Speaker 3: him in person, only see him over the phone or

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Speaker 3: shortage of GPS they simply cannot afford the time. This

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Speaker 3: is being described as a crisis and has been a

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Speaker 3: crisis for some time in the making. Now, Health New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest about it, ain't gonna give

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Speaker 3: new hospital building on the North Shore that they just

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Speaker 3: in quotation marks opened. They don't open nothing. The building

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Speaker 3: is good to go, but they've just taken staff from

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Speaker 3: making the house system any better. They don't have any money.

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Speaker 3: So the only option if Health New Zealand doesn't have

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Speaker 3: enough money to put into the GPS. Is to let

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Speaker 3: us put money into the GPS. It's not a great

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Speaker 3: solution because what it's gonna do is it's going to

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Speaker 3: means that we lose them all together. Make the tough calls.

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Speaker 3: Shane Rittie, come on, this debate has gone on too

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Speaker 3: long now, Heather do for c Allen nine two nine

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Speaker 3: to don't have to talk about it again. Brian Betty's

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Speaker 3: So he's with us in an hour. Now turn to

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Speaker 3: something completely differently. It turns out that Wellington a super

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Speaker 3: city is back on the agenda again because four councils

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Speaker 3: in the Wellington region have been talking about amalgamation. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is much smaller than what was originally proposed years ago,

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Speaker 3: Baker as the mayor of portadours with us. Now, Hey, Anita, hello,

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Speaker 3: how are you well? Thank you? Do you reckon? This

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Speaker 3: is a goer?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 6: It is, but we're not all on the same page.

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Speaker 6: And you can only be on the same page and

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Speaker 6: make it work of four of you agree and you

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Speaker 6: don't chextit at the moment.

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Speaker 6: Wellington at the moment? Aren't on board for the discussion?

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Speaker 6: You know, don't think it's suitable right now, Tory partners.

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Speaker 6: You can't keep putting it off. Yeah, you know at

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Speaker 3: Why isn't Tory into it?

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Speaker 6: I think she's, you know, got troubles in Wellington around

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Speaker 6: dealing with water. But actually it's a good time to

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Speaker 6: have those discussions.

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Speaker 3: I find it slightly ironic, the Tori is the one

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Speaker 3: would surely be the one that should be most grateful

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Speaker 6: Well, you'd like to think so that they don't agree

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Speaker 3: So let me get this right. And so you and

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Speaker 3: the mayors of Upper Hut and Hut City, you're all

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Speaker 6: Discussion. We all do rubbish recycling, all do it differently,

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Speaker 3: So it's a little bit like Turkey's voting for an

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Speaker 6: Well, it's got a scaday of jobs. We're not doing

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Speaker 3: Survive, Anita, the fact that this has come out into

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Speaker 3: the media suggests that you guys are trying to put

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Speaker 3: that what's up?

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Speaker 6: Well, I didn't put it out there, but she needs

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Speaker 6: Because it's not a theism we can make you know,

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Speaker 6: the residents and porter and might say not a great idea.

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Speaker 6: I'm hearing lots of people saying get on with it,

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Speaker 3: Is Tory dismissing this out of hand.

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Speaker 6: No open for the discussion, but not really in the discussion.

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Speaker 6: So it's a matter of getting to the table. It's here,

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Speaker 6: let's stick to her and there you come up. You

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Speaker 3: When's your next meeting?

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Speaker 6: The Mirror Forum meeting is in August, but we will

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Speaker 6: get together as a group of four mayors and try

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Speaker 3: Well, good luck with it, and to really appreciate you

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Speaker 3: talking to us. It's a need to make a put

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Speaker 3: it or mare. No surprise, absolutely anybody that the stick

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately we start at four, Tory ends at four.

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Speaker 3: It's not really compatible for us. So anyway, the days

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Speaker 3: she's been diagnosed. I don't know if you've caught up

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Speaker 3: on Bolivia, but there is now speculation. This gets crazier.

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Speaker 3: And remember how they had the coup and it was

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Speaker 3: there is now speculation that the president staged the coup

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Speaker 3: He claimed the President had in fact ordered him to

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Speaker 3: cur So let's do that.

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Speaker 3: Some believin's actually believe this, and the opposition has taken

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Speaker 3: or at least they're making a play of believing it.

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Speaker 3: But there is unfortunately at the stage no evidence. The

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Speaker 3: President says it's all lies. But what will absolutely be

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Speaker 3: adding to the speculation is because the coup's rubbish and

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Speaker 1: Allen drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business, U.

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Speaker 3: Piney hallo, Heather Piney, Yes, England thinks they're going to

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Speaker 3: So have you decided that we need to replace Seawan

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Speaker 2: Into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duper c Allen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 12: If you're a journalist. Your job is to challenge power

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Speaker 12: Precisely what you have done. I watched your ABC this

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Speaker 3: the snap election in France. The exit polls suggest that

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Speaker 3: NR has won about thirty four percent of the vote,

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Speaker 3: which is more than any other party. Here's a French voter.

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Speaker 13: I think it's concerning that we have people in our

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Speaker 13: country who vote at extremes.

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Speaker 12: It used to be more.

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Speaker 13: Of a small part of the population that we can that

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Speaker 13: it's kind of a lot of the population votes either

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Speaker 13: fire rate or either far left.

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Speaker 3: An Ossie Labor Party senator has been indefinitely suspended from

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Speaker 3: caucus for crossing the floor on a vote. Fatima Payment

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Speaker 3: voted against her party, choosing instead to support a Green

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Speaker 3: Party motion to recognize the state of Palestine. She's been

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Speaker 3: suspended until she agrees to vote along Labour party lines

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Speaker 3: if the issue comes up again. Fatima says she's not

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Speaker 3: going to be back and down.

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Speaker 11: We know that the forty seventh Parliament has been the diverse,

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Speaker 11: the most diverse parliament ever, and you can't have that

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Speaker 11: diversity in personalities and the representation but not have the

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Speaker 11: diversity of views.

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Speaker 3: And finally, firefighters in North Carolina have managed to chase

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Speaker 3: a three point six meter alligator off the road with

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Speaker 3: a hose. The gator was blocking traffic at one in

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Speaker 3: the morning Saturday local time and lunging at every single

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Speaker 3: car that drove past. The cops got called. They called

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Speaker 3: in the fire department and after a blasting from the

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Speaker 3: fire hose, the gator decided to head home.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Hither it rhymes with Leah tad sort of does, sort

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Speaker 3: of does Oliver Peterson's six PR Perth Life presenters with us.

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Speaker 7: Now, hey, Ollie get ahead.

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Speaker 3: So is Fatima payment ever going to come back?

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Speaker 14: Probably not. But this is really causing massive issues within

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Speaker 14: the Labor Party because they did not get a conscious

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Speaker 14: both they are bound by the caucus rules that you

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Speaker 14: can never cross the floor unless they're given permission to

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Speaker 14: be able to do so. And as you heard it

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Speaker 14: there and she was on the ABC Insiders program in

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Speaker 14: Australia yesterday morning she said, you'll do it. She'll cross

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Speaker 14: the floor because she's going to vote with her conscience.

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Speaker 14: Now this is really upset the Prime Minister because it

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Speaker 14: is the first of July. So he was out and

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Speaker 14: about this morning trying to spruit the fact that he's

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Speaker 14: got more cost of living relief for every single Australian

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Speaker 14: with tax cuts, with electricity credits. And he is really

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Speaker 14: cheesed off today, Heather, because Fatima payment is dominating the

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Speaker 14: headlines and dominating the headlines for the fact that not

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Speaker 14: only does it seem almost archaic that you can't have

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Speaker 14: your own view and they want to create a very

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Speaker 14: diverse party that there are obviously many people within the

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Speaker 14: Labor Party who just hold the caucus rule as the

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Speaker 14: number one priority and never break the caucus rule. What

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Speaker 14: was really interesting his moments ago in the Parliament they

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Speaker 14: swore in the new Governor General, Sam Boston, and Tanya

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Speaker 14: Plibersk was seen giving Madam mc payman quite a significant

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Speaker 14: embrace and you know you could sort of lip read

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Speaker 14: that she was saying everything would be okay. Plib sc

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Speaker 14: of course to nemesis of Anthony Alberanisi. So when the

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Speaker 14: polls today showed that the Coalitions ahead on the two

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Speaker 14: party per third question, the Prime Minister has got a

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Speaker 14: lot of headaches too.

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Speaker 3: Right, how's Barnaby going on? You know, giving up the.

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Speaker 14: Booze, He's done pretty well in only a matter of months.

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Speaker 14: He says he's lost about fifteen kilograms.

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Speaker 7: He looks like he's looking.

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Speaker 14: A lot better, and he said he woke up that

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Speaker 14: morning after Obviously that video surface, it turns out now

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Speaker 14: he was not talking to anybody on that mobile phone,

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Speaker 14: and in fact the mobile phone was upside down. That's

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Speaker 14: how blind drunk Barnaby Joyce was on the streets of camera.

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Speaker 14: But he's now admitted that said he's embarrassed, so reckoned

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Speaker 14: he woke up the next morning. Quit the smokes, quit

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Speaker 14: the booze, hasn't touched them, and says, look, I might

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Speaker 14: go back to it at some stage. I think one

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Speaker 14: of the most interesting comments is he says that all

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Speaker 14: the functions he goes to now he has to actually

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Speaker 14: talk to people, and they're really quite boring. We have

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Speaker 14: to engage with those people he's trying to talk to it.

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Speaker 14: All the functions of your teens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how boozed are they? I mean, you should

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Speaker 3: only have like a couple of drinks that a function.

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Speaker 3: They must all be absolutely off their faces. Listen, do

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Speaker 3: you have any inside good is Twiggy going to sue Facebook?

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Speaker 14: Well this is interesting because he's taking this into California. Now,

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Speaker 14: you know, everybody sees across Facebook fake ads, and if

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Speaker 14: they were going to be running fake ads on newstalg

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Speaker 14: ZVB or six PR on my radio station where I work,

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Speaker 14: then we'd be in all sorts of strife for scamming people.

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Speaker 14: Facebook seems to get away with this, and they use

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Speaker 14: people like Andrew Twiggy Forest's face, and the algorithm targets

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Speaker 14: vulnerable people.

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Speaker 15: They think, O if Andrew forres is, it's okay, I'm

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Speaker 15: going to all.

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Speaker 14: Of a sudden give you one thousand dollars in them

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Speaker 14: my bank accounts cleared out. He's had a bit of

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Speaker 14: a win here so far in the California courts head,

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Speaker 14: which could pay the way now for thousands of cases

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Speaker 14: coming before Facebook, and just make the basards honest about

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Speaker 14: who's advertising money. They're taking a two hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 14: a year company taking in advertising revenue and they don't

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Speaker 14: actually check it. The cooks who are giving them the

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Speaker 14: money are legit. This has a widespread ramification around the

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Speaker 14: world for these social media giants. You need to be

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Speaker 14: governed like traditional media is your radio station in mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very fair point that you make there, Actually, Ollie,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much appreciated. That's Oliver Peterson six pr

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Speaker 3: Perth Life Present. I don't know about you, but I

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Speaker 3: sympathize with Barnaby if you've ever given up the booze

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Speaker 3: or cut back like I've definitely I've cut back for

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Speaker 3: lifestyle changed reasons, because it is impossible to have a

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Speaker 3: hangover when you've got very small children. It's not worth it.

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Speaker 3: So I have like a couple of drinks and that'll

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Speaker 3: be at whatever boozed people suck. They suck, don't they like?

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Speaker 3: It starts out okay at the start of the evening,

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Speaker 3: but then when they start repeating themselves, oh man, and

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Speaker 3: like you again, because you're a decent human, you don't

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Speaker 3: want to be rude and sort of just be like,

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Speaker 3: shut up. You don't want to do that when in

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Speaker 3: your head that's what you're doing, so you like politely

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Speaker 3: make it. I've got to go to the toilet for

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Speaker 3: like the fifth time in five minutes, so you just

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Speaker 3: make an excuse to get I just think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna cut the BSA. I'm just going to be like, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm going by I'm not even gonna because that's too

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Speaker 3: drunk to care, aren't they I'm not going to make

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Speaker 3: excuses anymore. I'm just gonna make it really obviously be

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Speaker 3: like yep, boring by wish me like I'll tell you,

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Speaker 3: I'll come back with a yarn. At some stage you

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Speaker 3: probably won't be that long. Sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics, Credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certaday Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, Hey, Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. What do you make of the third quarter list?

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Speaker 10: It's interesting, isn't it. All governments come out and you

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Speaker 10: remember labor one year they called it the year of deliverables,

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Speaker 10: and delivered during delivered virtually nothing, and that year it

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Speaker 10: was probably one of their worst years.

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Speaker 16: Here.

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Speaker 10: There's always a danger when you come out with lists

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Speaker 10: and saying this is what we're going to achieve. But

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Speaker 10: you've I got to say, and you know, I can't

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Speaker 10: remember a time when a government has actually tackled most

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Speaker 10: of the things it said. It's got a whole list

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Speaker 10: there with a stamp done at its side of thirty six,

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Speaker 10: I think there was thirty seven points that they wanted

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Speaker 10: to achieve in the second quarter. They got thirty six,

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Speaker 10: but a lot of them are sort of progress of legislation.

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Speaker 10: And similarly, when you look at the third quarter, it's

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Speaker 10: like things like releasing the draft of a second missions

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Speaker 10: reduction plan. Well, you know that's good. It's only a draft,

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Speaker 10: so it's not actually introducing it. So there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of sort of soft stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's marking the steps that they're taking towards the thing.

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Speaker 10: Right here they are, and you know, you've got to

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Speaker 10: say that's a pretty good thing. The three components of

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Speaker 10: the third quarter will be rebuilding the economy and easing

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Speaker 10: the cost of living. And there's a lot of steps

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Speaker 10: that they talk in the budget, of course, that they

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Speaker 10: would say achieved that restore law and order, the old

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Speaker 10: gang patches thing, that law will go through, delivering better

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Speaker 10: public services, what's left of the public service. It'll you know,

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Speaker 10: there's a number of aspects of that that they've outlined,

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Speaker 10: and I've got to say Lason was in a positive

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Speaker 10: spin mode saying the targets set, we'll see better times ahead.

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Speaker 10: Here is a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 17: We're doing a lot, as you can see every quarter,

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Speaker 17: we're being very disciplined about what we are doing and

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Speaker 17: what we're not doing. And that's the way that we

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Speaker 17: have to be in order to turn the country around.

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Speaker 17: That's what's needed in a turnaround job. But I think

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Speaker 17: a lot of what we want to do in the

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Speaker 17: economic space in the coming quarter is get the infrastructure

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Speaker 17: that we know that we need to get going to

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Speaker 17: improve the productivity of New Zealand. I know it's tough now,

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Speaker 17: but we actually have a fantastic future ahead of us

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Speaker 17: in this country.

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Speaker 10: See, I guess the good thing is here that they're

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Speaker 10: setting targets and they're measuring themselves against the targets. So

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Speaker 10: if they fail, I'll have to admit it. And by

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Speaker 10: notating every time I get this forty in the third quarter,

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Speaker 10: then you know you can measure them against and how

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Speaker 10: far they've gone to achieve what they say that some of.

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Speaker 3: The stuff is the end of the matter as well,

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Speaker 3: the end of the process. About nine of the things

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Speaker 3: is actually passing the legislation like at its end point

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Speaker 3: in gazetting things and so on. So it's not a

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Speaker 3: really bad Yeah, So not a surprise really that the

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Speaker 3: majority of us, quite the plurality of us, want to

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Speaker 3: see a new plane.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a Tibot Mills pole, which is the Labor

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Speaker 10: Party pollsters. The main supporters, not surprisingly come from the

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Speaker 10: coalition government parties. If you look at the National supporters,

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Speaker 10: sixty one percent of them say that we should have

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Speaker 10: planes that can land when the Prime Minister travels overseas

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Speaker 10: sixty percent very close again New Zealand first, and fifty

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Speaker 10: nine percent for ACT. So there's a strong body of

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Speaker 10: support for new planes from the coalition parties. Look at

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Speaker 10: the other side, of course, Labour's interesting forty nine percent

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Speaker 10: that these planes should be replaced. Then you get down

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Speaker 10: to the Maori Party thirty five percent and the Greens,

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Speaker 10: of course they would tend to have us out in

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Speaker 10: rowing boats to get where.

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Speaker 3: The Green I'll never ever, we don't need to fly

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Speaker 3: because of the climate and there's no such thing as war.

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Speaker 10: True that, and so thirty three percent of the Green

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Speaker 10: say yes they should. But Luxon has been very reluctant,

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Speaker 10: saying that at a time of the cost of living crisis,

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Speaker 10: it's very hard to be forking out on planes.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 10: And he's but he's got a lot of trips coming

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Speaker 10: up this year, you know, before the year's out. He's

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Speaker 10: talking about going to India in the coming months, as

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Speaker 10: well as the NATO summit in Washington, d c apec

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Speaker 10: And which is in Peru this year, so there's a

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Speaker 10: lot of travel. If he doesn't take the air Force plans,

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Speaker 10: you may not get the same media coverage that Prome

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Speaker 10: ministers like to have.

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Speaker 3: You can probably live without it, how about you. I

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Speaker 3: could yes, yeah, okay, good settled, don't take the media.

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Speaker 3: Hey what did you think of the Trump Biden debate? Then?

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Speaker 10: Oh, I've got to say the highlight or the low

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Speaker 10: light of my weekend. Really, I mean I was watched it,

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Speaker 10: Like I said on Friday, political tragic. You've got to

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Speaker 10: sit in front of the television and watch these two men.

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Speaker 10: One a geriatric and I'm not nothing against elderly people

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Speaker 10: now a man that's got a real problem, and the

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Speaker 10: other one is a blatant liar telling so many lies. Basically,

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Speaker 10: Trump gave seven of the ten longest answers during the

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Speaker 10: course of the debate. Not surprising either, because he dominated

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Speaker 10: the microphone more. And it's interesting. You've got moderators there,

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Speaker 10: but they do nothing. They simply sit there because they've

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Speaker 10: got the mute buttons, and they don't answer follow up questions,

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Speaker 10: which is frustrating. The next day, though, I've got to

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Speaker 10: say in North Carolina, Biden sounded like a totally different person.

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Speaker 2: Here he is, I like the other guy.

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Speaker 18: We're going to stand up to Dictator's lake, pruten mer

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Speaker 18: composed and no one, no one, no one ever.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Trump last night? I guess he said.

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Speaker 18: I mean, it's sincerely a new record for the most

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Speaker 18: lies told of the single debate.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 10: The thing is that we were told he had a

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Speaker 10: cold the night before. He sounded pretty clearly.

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Speaker 3: Was that address before four o'clock? Because four o'clock?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: They do all of it between ten am and four pm,

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Speaker 3: and then he can still function and sound. Barry, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, Barry So for senior political correspondence given

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Speaker 3: away from five putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspakers, the mic hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: The presidents about seeing the national correspondent at US News

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Speaker 19: and will report to Olivia. Henry is with us. Could

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Speaker 19: you believe what you were watching?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 8: No, I could not. We had three and a half

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Speaker 8: years with President Biden, and those ninety minutes on that

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Speaker 8: debate stage were easily the worst of his time in

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Speaker 8: office in terms of his public apparents is speaking and

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Speaker 8: his general stake it was a terrible performent.

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Speaker 19: Does he stay in the rice?

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Speaker 8: Yes? I think he done. Family members are encouraging him

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Speaker 8: to stay in. It would be actually pretty difficult to

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Speaker 8: remove him against his will. So I think as of

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Speaker 8: right now he's stays in the race. He has not

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Speaker 8: given any indication at all that he is having second

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Speaker 8: thoughts about running back.

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Speaker 19: Tomorrow at six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar

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Speaker 19: mused toald Ziby, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember we've been talking about this a little

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Speaker 3: bit on the program, the gold mining that's going on

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Speaker 3: near Cromwell, they're on Bendigo station. Well, the OSSI's digging

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Speaker 3: it up. This is ASX listed Santana Minerals. The ossies

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Speaker 3: who are digging it up reckon they have struck one

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Speaker 3: of the most significant discoveries of unearthed gold in forty

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Speaker 3: years in New Zealand. They reckon it could produce one

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Speaker 3: hundred and ten thousand ounces of gold every year over

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Speaker 3: ten years, and given that the spot price is sitting

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Speaker 3: at around three thy seven hundred and fifty five dollars

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Speaker 3: an ounce, that could produce about four billion dollars worth

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Speaker 3: of export value over the lifetime. Now they're going to

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Speaker 3: I think they start with an open pit mine and

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Speaker 3: then they go to the underground mine later on, and

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Speaker 3: it's cheaper to do the open pit mine, so they

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Speaker 3: could have net profits. They reckon about two billion, but

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Speaker 3: they need money to mine. They need about two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty six million dollars in working capital. We're going

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Speaker 3: to speak to the chief executive of that in around

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Speaker 3: about twenty minutes time. Speaking of chief executives, the chief

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Speaker 3: executive of kying of order has been given as marching orders.

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Speaker 3: Asn't he this is Andrew McKenzie. Doesn't sound like he's

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Speaker 3: leaving of his own volition. And the reason I say

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Speaker 3: that is because the board chair, Simon Mooter has said

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Speaker 3: he and Andrew McKenzie agreed it was a good time

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Speaker 3: to step down. And when they put the old agreed

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Speaker 3: in the press release, you should know that Daddy sat

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Speaker 3: him down and says the time to go now, Darling,

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Speaker 3: you're doing a really bad job.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's like he seems like a decent guy and

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Speaker 3: he seems like he's really smart and stuff. Maybe he's

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Speaker 3: not doing it. I mean, he's doing a terrible job.

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Speaker 3: Look he is, but maybe also it's just about optics, right,

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Speaker 3: like this is the guy who was there under just

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Speaker 3: Sinda's rain and he was driving terrible, terrible policies and

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Speaker 3: they need a clean house. Anyway, Simon Mooter's gonna be

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Speaker 3: with us as well. Just after the half past five news, Heather,

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Speaker 3: soon you're going to stop going out now that you've

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Speaker 3: given up that. I haven't given up the booze. I've

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Speaker 3: just cut right back like I just like like okay,

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Speaker 3: al sort not like a guzzle, guzzle, do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Anyway, you're going to stay home and

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Speaker 3: watch Bridgeton because that's what I've been doing. Andrea, I

748
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Speaker 3: know I'm up to the bit where Colin realizes that

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Speaker 3: he has to go because he loves her, and I'm

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Speaker 3: up to that bit. I'm up to that bit. So

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Speaker 3: you are me? I am you. Headline's next.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts, and give the analysis, Heather,

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Speaker 1: due to Celum Drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, the government's released. It's next to do list.

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Speaker 3: This is the action plan for Q three and a

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Speaker 3: significant feature is law and order, including passing a Lord

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Speaker 3: of how police crack down on gangs, a Lord of

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Speaker 3: Tough and sentencing, and also launching the boot Camps pilot.

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Speaker 3: The Justice Minister is Paul Goldsmith. Hey, Paul good Hey,

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Speaker 3: there you go, very well, thank you. How much of

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Speaker 3: the forty things on the list are actually going to

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Speaker 3: be done by the end of Q three.

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Speaker 20: Well, a number of things are passing. The legislation that

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Speaker 20: we're working our way through now. Everybody's sort of impatient.

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Speaker 20: They want the police to have the extra power to

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Speaker 20: deal with gangs, that they want to deal with the

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Speaker 20: firearms control. But we do have to pass the legislation

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Speaker 20: and it's important that it goes through the Select committee process.

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Speaker 20: People have a chance to talk about it and make

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Speaker 20: sure that we've got everything right. But a number of

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Speaker 20: those pieces of legislation will pass in the third quarter

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Speaker 20: and then they'll be implemented before the end of the y.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at things that you that just having

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Speaker 3: a look at it first blush, look like they're actually

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Speaker 3: going to be past. It's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 3: eight nine. Is that about right, nine out of fourteen.

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Speaker 20: Well, in terms of the list of forty, I seven't

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Speaker 20: got that list in front of me. But yes, I

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Speaker 20: mean we're getting through a lot of work. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 20: it's a very busy government.

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Speaker 3: Is it. Did you manage to finish everything on the

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Speaker 3: list for Q two? Because I can see three things

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Speaker 3: that are not finished.

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Speaker 20: Well, look useful. I mean not everything has been announced,

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Speaker 20: but we've made decisions and I think just about every

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Speaker 20: area we got through everything in the first quarter. And

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Speaker 20: look the Prime Minister, he cracks the whip. There's no

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Speaker 20: question about that. He's very determined to focus that we

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Speaker 20: get things done, and he set a high sort of

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Speaker 20: threshold and we go as fast as we can, always

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Speaker 20: sort of balancing the need, as I say, to go

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Speaker 20: with speed, but also to have enough time for people

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Speaker 20: to have a say on important legislation. And of course

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Speaker 20: you don't want to be coming back and having to

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Speaker 20: fix things. So you didn't quite get it right because

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Speaker 20: you were rushing. So there's always at tension that we've got.

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Speaker 3: So one of the three things that you don't seem

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Speaker 3: to have done with for the last list was to

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Speaker 3: commission the study into Marsden Point oil refinerund whether to

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Speaker 3: reopen it and not? Why not?

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Speaker 20: Well, I look, there would be something that Change Jones

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Speaker 20: is working his way through, and I don't have any

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Speaker 20: particular insight into that. Yes, so yep, Well, I think

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Speaker 20: people will be pleased that we're actually making progress on

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Speaker 20: the very big things, which is restoring law and order

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Speaker 20: is right off the top.

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Speaker 3: I'm only asking you because that one seems easy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you disappoint some people to do the study.

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Speaker 8: Don't you.

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Speaker 20: Well, there may be there's probably a very good reason,

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Speaker 20: but I don't have it on me at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Now, as the Justice Minister, are you prepared to beef

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Speaker 3: up year three strikes law?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, look that the basic engine there, and Nicole McKee,

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Speaker 20: my colleague, is shippening this through. The basic tension is

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Speaker 20: that you can go absolutely hard out, but you face

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Speaker 20: the reality that Heaven forbidden twelve years time when we

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Speaker 20: get trying out at the next election and the next

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Speaker 20: government will sort of overturn it in.

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Speaker 3: You come on, You're not using that lame argument for

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Speaker 3: anything else that you're doing. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 3: is you guys are going to get absolute pressure from

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Speaker 3: people when people start to cotton on on how watered

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Speaker 3: down this is. You're going to get a lot of emails,

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Speaker 3: very cross.

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Speaker 20: I don't think it's just ensuring all The only different

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Speaker 20: fundamental difference is ensuring that strike offenses are for offenses

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Speaker 20: when people have actually been in prison for twenty four months.

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Speaker 20: And you know the whole purpose of it is to

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Speaker 20: keep our worst repeat offenders off the street for longer

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Speaker 20: so that they can harm New Zealanders. And I think

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Speaker 20: that that threshold at twenty four months.

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Speaker 3: Is already to take insurance. Are you prepared to beef

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Speaker 3: it up there? Are you open minded?

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Speaker 20: Well, of course, well, that's why we're having a select

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Speaker 20: committee process, and so people can have an argument it

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Speaker 20: could be eighteen months or could be twenty four. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 20: we're not completely closed minded on these things. But I

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Speaker 20: think it does need to be a higher threshold than

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Speaker 20: it had in the pasted in the first operation, if

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Speaker 20: only to increase the chances that we get some measure

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Speaker 20: of Biparlisan support for this and so we can have

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Speaker 20: a more I think that's the broad issue, is to

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Speaker 20: try and improve our chances of having something that can last,

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Speaker 20: you know, last over across governments which we failed to

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Speaker 20: a chief last time around. That's why it's important to

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Speaker 20: have this discussion.

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Speaker 3: Paul, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: As Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for clans please.

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Speaker 3: Rejecting the latest funding from Health New Zealand, saying it's inadequate.

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Speaker 3: They're warning the crisis in the GP sector is now

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Speaker 3: so bad that some practices may even go out of business.

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Speaker 3: And Brian Betty is the Chair of General Practice New

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Speaker 3: Zealand and with us. Now, hey, Brian, okay, So House

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Speaker 3: New Zealand is offering you this time around a four

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Speaker 3: percent increase in funding and then allowing you to put

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Speaker 3: up your existing fees by nearly eight percent. Is that

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Speaker 3: not enough?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 21: Look, there was a report done two years ago called

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Speaker 21: the Sapare Report that identified that over the last decade

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Speaker 21: of two there was an underfunding of general practice between

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Speaker 21: ten and twenty percent. So all this does is go

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Speaker 21: some way towards the CPI or cost increases over the

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Speaker 21: last year. It doesn't actually fix the undefined underlying deficit

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Speaker 21: which is getting worse over time.

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Speaker 3: Now, how New Zealand obviously don't have the money right,

871
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 3: They don't even have the money to hire the necessary

872
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: staff to run the new building that they've opened at

873
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: north Shore Hospitals. They certainly don't have money for GPS,

874
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: so surely the only answer is simply to give you

875
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: a bit, but let you charge us more. Is that

876
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: not the solution?

877
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 21: Well, that may be the solution, but what happens in

878
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 21: New Zealand is the government fixes the price increases, so

879
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 21: we for a general practice that has to compensate by

880
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Speaker 21: increasing fees to patients, which is something no practice wants

881
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Speaker 21: to do. They actually have to apply to the government

882
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 21: to Health New Zealand to have that approved. So everything

883
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 21: is actually capped by the government. So both what they've

884
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 21: give in terms of capitation, the underlying funding or the

885
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 21: subsidy plus what we can charge the patient. It's not

886
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Speaker 21: a free free market at all. It is capped by

887
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Speaker 21: the government.

888
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: When is this going to get fixed?

889
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Speaker 21: Well, look, I mean the present minister has indicated that

890
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Speaker 21: his focus is on twenty five twenty six. He actually

891
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 21: understands the problem that has built up over the last

892
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Speaker 21: ten twenty years because this has been a long standing

893
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Speaker 21: issue that we have been raising with the government consistently,

894
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Speaker 21: and he set his focuses on next year's budget, so

895
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Speaker 21: we'll have to wait and see. But the issue at

896
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Speaker 21: the moment is there are a number of practices around

897
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Speaker 21: the country now that are actually operating at a loss.

898
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Speaker 21: There are gps out there at the moment who are

899
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Speaker 21: not paying themselves so they can continue to pay their staff.

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Speaker 21: The situation is actually getting worse and where we are

901
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Speaker 21: reaching a crisis with us, Brian.

902
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Speaker 3: If gps could make up the money by charging us more,

903
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Speaker 3: how much more would they need to charge us?

904
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Speaker 21: Well, look, as I said, the Sapiro report indicated that

905
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Speaker 21: on average, most general practice and practices were underfunded to

906
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Speaker 21: the tune of ten to twenty percent. High needs practices

907
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 21: that is, in rural areas or serving high needs high

908
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 21: needs areas were underfunded both between thirty four and two

909
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Speaker 21: hundred percent. It was quite out of staggering what the

910
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Speaker 21: report indicated. So look, it would have to increase substantially,

911
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Speaker 21: and that's part of the issue, and that is obviously

912
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Speaker 21: not good for patients. For a lot of patients, they

913
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Speaker 21: can't afford those types of increases and it's certainly something

914
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Speaker 21: we don't want to see happen.

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Speaker 3: Brian, Thank you very much, best like dealing with us.

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Speaker 3: It's Brian Beatty, the chair of General Practice New Zealand

917
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Speaker 3: Heller Duper see Allen lux and Chris Luxon has just

918
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Speaker 3: said at the post cabinet press conference that he is

919
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Speaker 3: open to investing more money and why and he notes

920
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Speaker 3: the need for an inquiry into the actions of the

921
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: Hawks Bay Regional Council. Now, I don't know if you

922
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: caught this, because this news emerged late on Thursday when

923
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Speaker 3: most of us were probably heading off to our long

924
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Speaker 3: weekends and stuff. But it appears that what happened in

925
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Speaker 3: wide Awe with the flooding, this is outrageous. Frankly. It

926
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Speaker 3: appears that what happened in wide Or with the flooding

927
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Speaker 3: was that Hawks Bay Regional Council didn't clear the bar

928
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Speaker 3: at the river. So the bar there every time as

929
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Speaker 3: the river flows out to the sea. Every time they

930
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Speaker 3: get bad weather coming, they go and get the contractors

931
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Speaker 3: and they start clearing the bar just to let as

932
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Speaker 3: much water out as possible. This time, though they knew

933
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: that the bad weather was coming, they left it till

934
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Speaker 3: a day before the weather hit, and they only got

935
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Speaker 3: the contractor in twenty four hours before and he was

936
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Speaker 3: like there's no way I was going to be able

937
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Speaker 3: to clear this stuff. Now, why this is outrageous is

938
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Speaker 3: because these guys are repeat offenders, aren't they our friends

939
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Speaker 3: at Hawks Bay Regional Council. They are the very ones

940
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Speaker 3: who failed to evacuate ESK Valley when actually, when you

941
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: look back, they knew that they needed to evacuate ESQ

942
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Speaker 3: Valley and if they didn't know, then they were just supid.

943
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Speaker 3: And you might recall that we had a council chairperson,

944
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Speaker 3: Hinawai Almsby, on this show after the report was released,

945
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Speaker 3: the micro Bush report, and she did not know a

946
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Speaker 3: single thing. And I looked at that situation and all

947
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: the texts came in and we all looked at Hanawai

948
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: and we went, well, that's going to happen again. Oh well,

949
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: what a surprise, that's happened again. So absolutely we need

950
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: an inquiry into that because this lot may need to

951
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: actually just have like the duties taken off them. Frankly,

952
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: if you're going to put people's lives at risk and

953
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Speaker 3: their property at risk, you might not actually need to

954
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Speaker 3: be in charge of that. I'm gonna speak to Nicola Willis,

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Speaker 3: Heather duperic Allen twenty past five.

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Speaker 2: There's gold in Demda held.

976
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Speaker 3: An Ossie mining company reckons it's found one of the

977
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Speaker 3: most significant gold discoveries in New Zealand in the last

978
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Speaker 3: forty years. This is Santana Minerals. They found gold deposits

979
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Speaker 3: all across Bendigo Station in central Otago. Damien Spring is

980
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Speaker 3: the chief executive. Hey, Damien, Hi there, How big is it?

981
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Speaker 15: It's big? How about on hundred ten thousand, one hundred

982
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 15: ten thousand ounces for ten years, if not more so?

983
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Speaker 3: In the scale of gold in this country? What comes

984
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: close to that? Like, where are we sitting in the scale?

985
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 15: I look mccraige's forecast produced I think one hundred and

986
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 15: forty thousand ouncers. That's at their minds just north of Dunedin,

987
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 15: and I think why he Gold are probably approaching a

988
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Speaker 15: similar number about one hundred thousand.

989
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 8: Yeah.

990
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: So are you guys doing a capital raise?

991
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: Is that?

992
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: What's up?

993
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 22: No?

994
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 15: No, we're just we're just doing what we need to

995
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 15: be doing, and that's advance in the project for our

996
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 15: shareholders and our community.

997
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Speaker 3: So you got enough money to be able to do

998
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: the mining.

999
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 15: Yeah. We actually raised thirty odd million dollars back in

1000
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Speaker 15: May and that will take us through to a final

1001
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 15: investment decision, hopefully sometime in the new year.

1002
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to find a way in for myself here, Damien.

1003
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Have you done?

1004
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: Have you done?

1005
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: Are you guys going to be going for the fast track.

1006
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Speaker 15: Consenting our Look, we're on track to some of our

1007
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 15: application under the RMA by the end of this year.

1008
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 15: It's the fast track approvals spill is passed by then,

1009
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 15: and it suits what we're aiming to do, then certainly

1010
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 15: we'll look.

1011
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: At it and when do you reckon you could get

1012
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 3: it started? What's the soonest?

1013
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 15: Well, you'd have to take the lead from the fast

1014
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 15: rate Bill, and if they do put it in for

1015
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 15: the end of the year, I believe the decision would

1016
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 15: be within come back within six months. So we're making

1017
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Speaker 15: decision halfway through next year on that basis, Let's see what.

1018
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 3: Happens, Damian. Obviously there are going to be places around

1019
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: the country that are going to get a lot more

1020
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: attract a lot more protests than others. I would imagine

1021
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: that given that yours is on privately owned land, it

1022
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Speaker 3: won't be too much of a headache, will it.

1023
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Speaker 15: I'm not sure. Which we just have to deal with

1024
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 15: what's in front of us. Yep, it's on private land.

1025
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 15: I guess the community wants to know what our proposal

1026
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Speaker 15: is all about. And we've been spending the last a

1027
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Speaker 15: couple of months actually getting that engagement underway, and we've

1028
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 15: still got a lot of work to do between now

1029
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Speaker 15: and the end of the year.

1030
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Speaker 3: Damien, good stuff, Good luck with it. Damien Spring, the

1031
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: chief executive at Santana Minerals, it's five twenty two.

1032
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Speaker 1: To get the answers you need, have the duple c

1033
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and

1034
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: news talk as they'd be.

1035
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: I to let the GP put the prices up, keep

1036
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: the prices low for Community Service cardholders and the Gold

1037
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: card holders, and the rest of us could just suck

1038
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: up the extra costs. Very generous of you, Ben, I

1039
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: tend to agree. Actually five five did you watch the

1040
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: Trump Biden debate?

1041
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 18: Then?

1042
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: That was that was excruciating, wasn't it. That was so

1043
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: tough to watch. At one point I was literally watching

1044
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: it through my fingers because I'd already covered my face

1045
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: with my hands. It was that bloody awkward.

1046
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 18: And it was this bit making sure that we're able

1047
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 18: to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've

1048
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 18: been able to do with the COVID, I exculd be

1049
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 18: with dealing with everything we have to do with What

1050
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 18: if we finally beat Medicare.

1051
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to do next Mo Mandy, to

1052
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: save myself from something. I'm just gonna be like, we

1053
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: finally beat Medicare.

1054
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: Holy.

1055
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: The amazing thing about it or it never gets tired,

1056
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: does it? It's as bad as the first time. Anyway.

1057
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: The amazing thing about it is that this is day

1058
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: four now of calls for Biden to stand down, which

1059
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: is a serious amount of pressure being put on the man,

1060
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: and there is still no indication from within the top

1061
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: ranks of his party that they're going to make him

1062
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: stand down. And if you read what's going on behind

1063
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Speaker 3: the scenes, like about the Saturday phone call between the

1064
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: top members of the Democratic Party and the committee members

1065
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: across the States, it sounds like they don't even realize

1066
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: how bad it is. I mean, the message out of

1067
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: that call from the people who were on it and

1068
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: were shocked was that the top guys are not taking

1069
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: seriously what happened. They do not realize that the world

1070
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: thinks that the guy that they're running for president is

1071
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: going senile. They didn't think that that's what we could

1072
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: all see. And it's not that we met it. I mean,

1073
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: we don't get to vote. They don't think that's what

1074
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: the American voter saw. So while my gut says politically

1075
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 3: he's got to go, everything I'm reading out of the states,

1076
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: from the top commentators right through to the credible publications

1077
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: say chances are he staying in the race. How nuts

1078
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: is that? I mean, I tell you what, I am

1079
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: happy to make one prediction, which is that if he

1080
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: does run, and the chances are that he does run,

1081
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: he loses to Trump because it's really hard to see

1082
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: America electing a guy who's only going to become more

1083
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: and more senile over the next four years. If they

1084
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: do manage to get rid of him and replace him,

1085
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Speaker 3: it's still not a great situation for the Democrats, because

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Speaker 3: Trump will make a feast of the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: running against their second choice. Now, but surely I would

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Speaker 3: think that that's better for their party because at least

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Speaker 3: the Democrats themselves can retain some credibility. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: they run a guy who's going gaga while pretending he's

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Speaker 3: not going gaga. When everybody can see that he's going gaga,

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Speaker 3: they are gonna look ridiculous. Ever, dup ce Allen Inter

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Speaker 3: Island a Fairies are canceled. So from tomorrow night a

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Speaker 3: thirty until the eight forty five sailing on Thursday, all

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Speaker 3: the inter Island Fairies are canceled. This is because of

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Speaker 3: the bad weather that's hitting that part of the world.

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Speaker 3: Swells between four and six meters of forecast and the

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Speaker 3: cockstrait and stuff. This is the weird thing. Though, keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on this. The Blue Bridge Fairies are still operating,

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Speaker 3: so either either Bluebridge have got to all go cancel

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Speaker 3: or interrupt. Something even worse is going on with Into Islander. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk next to Simon mut who's the

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Speaker 3: chair of Kayinga Order because the CEO is leaving in October.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been told to go as Andy. So

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Speaker 3: we'll find out Headline's next.

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Speaker 1: Ye find your smart speaker on the iHeart app and

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Speaker 2: Hither dup to see allan drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and news talk z' besiding.

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Speaker 3: We've put a huddles standing by Tris Shurson and Richard

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Speaker 3: Hell's This Seavenoning. Nichola Willis is going to be with

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Speaker 3: us after six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll ask her what.

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Speaker 3: She's going to do about the GPS, if there's any

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Speaker 3: more money, or what the solution is for that. Hither

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Speaker 3: in regards to Biden, if he does drop out and

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Speaker 3: they replace both Biden and Harris, they still need to

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Speaker 3: return all donations and start again, and replacing with Harris

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Speaker 3: certainly isn't a winning option. This is the problem down

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Speaker 3: It's Dan makes an excellent point. It's just so complicated

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Speaker 3: once you start doing this, and they probably just that

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Speaker 3: they're overthinking it. I think they're overthinking it. I mean

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Speaker 3: the obvious thing is get rid of the senile one,

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Speaker 3: just sub anybody else and it would be a better situation.

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Speaker 3: But they're thinking about all the you know, all of

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Speaker 3: the admin. It's just really difficult. Actually, we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a chat to Shane Soley of Harbor Asset Management

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Speaker 3: about the implication of that debate on the markets, and

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Speaker 3: he will be with us just before the half past

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Speaker 3: six news. Right now, it's twenty four away from six.

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Speaker 2: Together do for ce Ellen's time.

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Speaker 3: Order House in New Zealand. Chief executive Andrew McKenzie is quit.

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Speaker 3: He's going to leave the agency in October with a

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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars payout. He apparently

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Speaker 3: agreed with the new chairperson, Simon Moutera, that it was

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Speaker 3: time to step down as the agency prepared to undergo

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Speaker 3: significant changes in the chair Simon Mooter's.

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Speaker 15: With us now, Simon, Hi, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Did he come to you and say I want to

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Speaker 3: quit or did you go to him and say it's

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Speaker 3: time that you quit.

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Speaker 21: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Look, given that given the extent of change going on

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Speaker 5: this organization, with the you know, the changes through the

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Speaker 5: government's budget allocations to KO and the findings of the

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Speaker 5: independent review, it was only right that we that I

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Speaker 5: sat down with Andrew mackenzie and had a conversation about

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Speaker 5: his future and given the change to his role, we

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Speaker 5: came to the conclusion that it was the right time

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Speaker 5: for him to move on after eight years doing a

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Speaker 5: very good job for the business.

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Speaker 3: He seems like a really smart guy. Was he just

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Speaker 3: not up to it?

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Speaker 5: He's very I think he's been a very effective CEO,

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Speaker 5: and I think if you look back at his achievements

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Speaker 5: there were many. He's done a terrific job. He was

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Speaker 5: there at the birth of the king Or organization and

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Speaker 5: led the organization. Yeah, he's done an amazing job building

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Speaker 5: the biggest construction program for new for residential in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: The organization will deliver around three and a half thousand

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Speaker 5: new homes this year. Was an extraordinary achievement.

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Speaker 3: But then KO is massively and so was that that smart?

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Speaker 5: Well, No, that's the that's the financial settings that are

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Speaker 5: agreed with the government. That new construction is funded one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent by debt. So that's that's been a decision

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Speaker 5: made between all of the parties, the ministries are and

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Speaker 5: kying Or over the last few years. And if you

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Speaker 5: build a lot of houses, you will increase the debt.

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Speaker 5: And now that debt's becoming expensive to service and that's

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Speaker 5: part of why the government and the Independent Review have

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Speaker 5: called for a new plan that makes sure we live

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Speaker 5: with inside a manageable debt cap and that we run

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Speaker 5: the business in a financially sustainable way. And we'll be

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Speaker 5: delivering that report in November.

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Speaker 15: How we're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: What's kind of been lost in the story with Andrew

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Speaker 3: McKenzie today is that there's also five board members who

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Speaker 3: have quit. Why did they all leave it once?

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Speaker 5: Well, no, the board, some of the board members we're

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Speaker 5: in the process ses.

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Speaker 15: You know, the review report.

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Speaker 5: Recommended there be a refresh of the board. So the Minister,

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Speaker 5: the Ministry and I have been working through those changes.

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Speaker 5: There will be a set of new board members appointed

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Speaker 5: later this week. And and some of the board members

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Speaker 5: who who finished up yesterday their terms had actually ended

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Speaker 5: some time ago and we're just staying on for this

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Speaker 5: process to take its course. And one had resigned of

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Speaker 5: their own volition earlier. So I think it's just that

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Speaker 5: change process occurring now, which was called for in the report.

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Speaker 3: Simon Ko has earned a really bad reputation of late.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's all deserved?

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Speaker 5: Look, I think the independent review particularly called out governance issues,

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Speaker 5: and governance in a state owned business is complex. It's

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Speaker 5: a three legged stool between the you know, the government ministers,

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Speaker 5: the monitoring units, the board and you know, I can see,

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Speaker 5: I can see how things have gone wrong in there,

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Speaker 5: and they've rightly been called out and it's my job

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Speaker 5: to help get those sort of But actually operationally, I

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Speaker 5: think king Ura does a pretty sound job. It's not

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Speaker 5: an easy job running seventy three thousand homes with two

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand New Zealanders in them, and many of whom

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Speaker 5: have special and demanding needs. And so you know, I

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Speaker 5: think from what I've seen in my short time involved,

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Speaker 5: it's actually a pretty well organized business and managed by

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Speaker 5: people who really do care and want to do a

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Speaker 5: great job. And that's a good platform to build from.

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Speaker 3: Simon, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate and

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Speaker 3: best of luck turning this thing around. That Simon moved

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Speaker 3: to the coying auto chair.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled reach

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Speaker 1: and results.

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Speaker 3: I'm huddled with me this evening got Trius Shurson, Shirson

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Speaker 3: Willis pr and Richard Hill's Auckland councilor Hello, are you

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Speaker 3: too sured?

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Speaker 22: Hello?

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Speaker 3: What do we Trish do about Joe Biden?

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Speaker 23: Well, it's up to Joe Biden. That's the Democrats problem,

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Speaker 23: isn't it. He has to make the call about giving

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Speaker 23: up his run for president, and from all accounts, he

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Speaker 23: is very stubborn and it's unlikely that he will do

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Speaker 23: that easily. We sat around on Saturday with a group

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Speaker 23: of people watching the debate, and I have to say

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Speaker 23: as a debate went on, the group got quieter and quieter,

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Speaker 23: And I think for two reasons. One is that it's

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Speaker 23: not just worrying for the United States that there is

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Speaker 23: such an unedifying race for president between a confused octagenarian

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Speaker 23: versus a liar and a convicted.

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Speaker 14: Felon, but also what that means for the world.

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Speaker 23: And there was a great line in that debate actually

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Speaker 23: that not only are the US's allies, but the enemies

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Speaker 23: are watching that debate, and you would have to say

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Speaker 23: that the US is in a very difficult place. I

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Speaker 23: think Democrats after the debate, they're now breaking the emergency

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Speaker 23: glass and seeing, you know, is there any way that

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Speaker 23: they can get another candidate up. But you know, if

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Speaker 23: you think you had you had Donald Trump in that

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Speaker 23: debate saying that the world is closer to World War

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Speaker 23: three than anyone knows.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just so frightening and true, isn't it. Richard?

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Speaker 3: Do you think Biden can win?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 16: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't watch the debate because I knew it was

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Speaker 4: going to be terrible. It's getting to the point where

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Speaker 4: it's going to be weekend at Bernie's for the next debate,

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Speaker 4: and they just roll him in, you know, like it

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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 3: Really terrible dead body.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's like not hopefully not dead, but you know,

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Speaker 4: it did feel like people are having to, you know,

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Speaker 4: take him off the stage bring him on like and

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Speaker 4: you could tell he just couldn't cope with what was

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Speaker 4: going on. And that is he's got to last four

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Speaker 4: years if he does win, and he's got to be

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Speaker 4: making the most important significant decisions for the country. And

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Speaker 4: you've got, as Trius says, someone that is absolutely deranged

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Speaker 4: on the other side, who is dangerous. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you've just heard someone say, oh, is they're electing

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Speaker 4: an administration like the people around Joe will do, and

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Speaker 4: that's correct that there will be at least a coherent

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Speaker 4: group of people around him, but that's not what you're

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Speaker 4: actually electing. You're electing a resident. And it is scary,

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Speaker 4: it is sad, and it is worrying.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there was the speech the next day that I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, there he goes again. But if someone

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Speaker 4: cannot string a sentence together or really know what he's

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Speaker 4: talking about on the first debate at the beginning of

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Speaker 4: a campaign. This is going to be really tiring next

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Speaker 4: to someone who's just lies and yeah, I'm worried for

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Speaker 4: America and and US again, Like it's just exhausting the

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Speaker 4: last ten years watching.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Trish that he can win.

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Speaker 23: I don't think he can. I mean, the biggest issue

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Speaker 23: that Democratic voters have had with Biden is his age.

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Speaker 23: That's really his itchilles heel. And also voters who have

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Speaker 23: left Trump, particularly women voters who have left Trump over

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Speaker 23: the over the abortion laws and the overturning of Roe

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Speaker 23: versus Wade, they are very worried about Biden's age, and

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Speaker 23: I just don't think it's something that he can overcome.

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Speaker 23: The debate was disastrous for that. But the other issue

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Speaker 23: that it really shows up in US politics is it

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Speaker 23: has turned into a gerontocracy. If you think about the

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Speaker 23: number of quite elderly senior politicians, not just you know,

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Speaker 23: in the presidential race, but at the upper echelons. For

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Speaker 23: a country that should be sort of young and fresh

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Speaker 23: and energetic, their politics tells a totally different story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah too, right, three hundred and twenty million people and

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Speaker 4: they've got those two candidates is pretty sad.

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Speaker 3: It is quite bizarre, isn't it. Hey, Richard, have you

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Speaker 3: had a look at the government's forty point plan for

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Speaker 3: the next quarter?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Ihad, what's your favorite one? I think the twenty

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Speaker 4: that start with or take something to cabinet. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean some of the cabinet decisions. Take cabinet cabinet decisions.

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Speaker 4: I mean the start saying you know, we will, we

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Speaker 4: will make sure we turn up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of good to have a plan, but all

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Speaker 4: government should. It is a bit like listing things that, yes,

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Speaker 4: you should be doing these things. Take a thing to cabinet.

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Speaker 4: I think the worst, Oh, I can't find it. One

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Speaker 4: of it was so like introduce a business case to

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Speaker 4: get the business you have a look for that.

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Speaker 3: Trish Well. I sort of feel like the novelty. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great strategy, but the novelty's wearing

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Speaker 3: off a weebit isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It might do.

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Speaker 23: I mean I think again that the you know, this

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Speaker 23: is just my guess, but it feels like one of

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Speaker 23: the drivers of this government doing it is because it's

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Speaker 23: a It's a great juxtaposition against the last segment, which

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Speaker 23: there wasn't a plan. There weren't any measures, and they

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Speaker 23: just seem to muddle through and come up up with

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Speaker 23: random press releases and headlines all the time. And probably

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Speaker 23: for someone like Lux and you know there's that great

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Speaker 23: old rule in business, if you don't measure it, you

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Speaker 23: can't manage it. Yeah, and despite you know what you

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Speaker 23: might say about the merit of what's in the list,

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Speaker 23: this also gives them a roadmap for their comms for

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Speaker 23: each quarter so that they can have real clarity. And

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Speaker 23: each of those see here, those focus for the key

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Speaker 23: cabinet ministers. And again it keeps those key cabinet ministers

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Speaker 23: on their toes because even saying I've got, you know,

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Speaker 23: taking these papers to cabinet, well, that means the ministers

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Speaker 23: responsible have to get their stuff together. They get those

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Speaker 23: papers into cabinet and keep progress moving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah did you find it, Richard?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It was take cabinet decisions on the program business case,

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Speaker 4: including costs benefit analysis for a proposed third medical school

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Speaker 4: at Wycott or unicorns.

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Speaker 3: Which doesn't mean we're going to get the final answer,

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Speaker 3: but we're going to take some decisions. But that's all right.

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Speaker 3: Take the decisions at the stage where will come back

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Speaker 3: to these two thirteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty, unparalleled reach

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Speaker 1: and results.

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Speaker 3: Right back on the Huddle with Me got Treshurson and

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Speaker 3: Richard Hill's should sounds like Andrew McKenzie was told to quit,

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Speaker 3: willn't they?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does sound like from that interview. I mean

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Speaker 4: he's been there over eight years. It's a pretty long

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Speaker 4: time for CEO, and if they are doing wholesale change,

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Speaker 4: it's pretty hard to keep someone at the top to

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Speaker 4: do the same job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was necessary, wasn't it trash? Because this

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Speaker 3: place has just got such a bad reputation they needed

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Speaker 3: to complete clean out.

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Speaker 23: I agree, And you know, smart move by the government

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Speaker 23: putting in Simon Motor. He's a class act and this

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Speaker 23: is his first sort of public service role. I think

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Speaker 23: he will do it very well. But you know, as

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Speaker 23: I've read today, I understand it. You know, because of

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Speaker 23: the wholesale changes that crying order to try and get

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Speaker 23: it under control, his role had been completely changed from

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Speaker 23: what he signed up to, so I think, you know

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Speaker 23: it was probably inevitable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, what do we do about the GPS? There

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Speaker 3: isn't enough money Richard to actually fund them through House

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. House New Zealand hasn't got enough money. So

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Speaker 3: if we want to save these things, the only way

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Speaker 3: I can see that we can do that if they

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Speaker 3: charge us more. Would you be okay with that?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the whole thing. And that's the vibe with

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Speaker 4: tax cuts again, like fifteen billion dollars for tax cuts,

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Speaker 4: but prescriptions have gone up. Everything's going to go up

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Speaker 4: this I think the proposals that for GPS to get more,

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Speaker 4: they have to charge customers about I mean patients another

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Speaker 4: seven or eight percent extra. So it's just that twenty

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Speaker 4: dollars you've got in your pockets just coming back in

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Speaker 4: another way. And every government does it. They'll label now

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Speaker 4: complain about them not paying GPS enough. You remember National

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Speaker 4: last term are saying these that same thing. They just

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Speaker 4: do it the same that underfunding health. All governments keep

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Speaker 4: underfunding health and it is not a good long term outcompany.

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Speaker 2: Not at all.

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Speaker 3: What's the solution, Treasure, Well, we can't get these people

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Speaker 3: have been complaining about it for six or seven years.

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Speaker 3: They obviously need money.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well, I mean I would urge this government. And

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Speaker 23: as Richard said, every government to really prioritize gps. Don't

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Speaker 23: forget this kind of primary healthcare, particularly in rural communities,

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Speaker 23: is really the barrier that protects the whole health system collapsing.

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Speaker 23: And in fact, right now we've got people in small

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Speaker 23: rural communities that I know of, they are waiting up to.

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Speaker 6: Eight weeks to get a GP appointment.

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Speaker 23: So imagine what that does for a caidward recurring tonsilitis

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Speaker 23: in the winter, a person who maybe not diagnosed for cancer,

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Speaker 23: or an elderly person with a heart condition who goes

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Speaker 23: eight weeks before they even get to see the GP.

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Speaker 23: It's just dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally what.

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Speaker 4: We're you going to say, No, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 4: We'll end up having to helicopter that person out when

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Speaker 4: they get to the keep stage.

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Speaker 3: If you don't put the money in the front, you

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Speaker 3: have to pay heaps more towards the end, right when

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Speaker 3: they're dying. Yeah, guys, thank you so much, really good points,

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate. It's Tris Sherson of Sheerson Willis PR and

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Speaker 3: Richard Hill's Auckland counselor. That was our heard of this evening.

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Speaker 3: It's had away from six on.

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker on the iHeart app and in your

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Speaker 1: car on your drive home. Heather Duplice allan drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business News.

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Speaker 3: Talk zib Hither there is absolutely enough money for GPS

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Speaker 3: and improved frontline health services. Tax cuts and left lord

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Speaker 3: tax cuts money would have helped for a start, and

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Speaker 3: when that's the argument, right, But I mean, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what I'm for the landlord tax cut, because that

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Speaker 3: is not a tax cut. That is simply returning things

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Speaker 3: to the way that it was, and every other business

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Speaker 3: gets the same allowance. And if you want, if you

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Speaker 3: want rents to just keep on going up, by all means,

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Speaker 3: go hard on the landloords. But if you want to

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Speaker 3: fix that situation as much as you possibly can, that

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Speaker 3: was necessary. So most of these things are necessary. And

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Speaker 3: I feel like the tax cuts have been written off

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Speaker 3: as like some sort of a frivolous thing. I really

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Speaker 3: do not believe that they are. People are having a

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Speaker 3: very difficult time and if you want to stop people

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Speaker 3: going to Australia, you have to let them keep more

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Speaker 3: money in their pockets. We have a massive brain drain

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Speaker 3: going on, so you need the tax cuts, So you

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Speaker 3: need the tax cuts, you need the landlord tax cuts,

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Speaker 3: you need the money for the GPS, you need money

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Speaker 3: for everything. So I just I think saying you just

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Speaker 3: get rid of those things is kind of ignoring the

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Speaker 3: problem that that is trying to address. Anyway, Listen, Rob

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Speaker 3: Fife is going to be with us after half past six.

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Speaker 3: Rob obviously got his fingers in a lot of pies

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Speaker 3: and stuff, fantastic history and business. He is now with

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Speaker 3: a business called Recorp where they're doing like aluminium can

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Speaker 3: recycling and stuff like that, and they're opening their own

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Speaker 3: plant here in September, and they've just appointed a chief executive.

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Speaker 3: So he's going to talk us through how they're going

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Speaker 3: to transform New Zealand's drinks packaging industry when he's with us.

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Speaker 3: And I do love a good business story out of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. I love kiwis trying to make a buck

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Speaker 3: and therefore increase productivity and therefore put more money into

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Speaker 3: the economy and therefore help us pay for the GP.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to celebrate that. If you have got

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Speaker 3: tickets to Coldplay in November, it sounds like you are

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Speaker 3: in for retreat. If they are anything like they were

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Speaker 3: at Glastonbury at the weekend. Because the reviews of Coldplay

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Speaker 3: have been sensational, The Telegraph gave them five stars. The

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Speaker 3: Telegraph says there were skepticism about Coldplay headlining Glastonbury for

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Speaker 3: a fifth time, right because I mean been there four

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Speaker 3: times before, why do you need them for a fifth time?

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Speaker 3: But the truth is, says the Telegraph, there was no

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Speaker 3: better band in the world for inspiring a joyous mass

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Speaker 3: sing along in a vast space. Everybody came out to

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Speaker 3: see them. This was almost McCartney and Elton John levels

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Speaker 3: of crowd intensity. Coldplay are so good at this because

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Speaker 3: they have twenty five years of songs that are easy

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Speaker 3: to sing, melodies that lift and flow, a dynamic and

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Speaker 3: colorful sense of arrangement, and an incredibly innately sympathetic sensibility

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Speaker 3: and performance. They reckon yea. It was a bit bit

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Speaker 3: corny at times because it's shamelessly poppy and so on,

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Speaker 3: but this was one of the great Glastonbury sets. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they should headline every year. How good is that? If

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Speaker 3: you've got tickets in November, it's like lotto. If you don't,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing with your money? Get some nicola?

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Speaker 3: Willis next?

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Speaker 2: Feel the hard masket feel hard, you make the feel.

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Speaker 1: We're Business Insight the Business hour, we'd hit a duplessy

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Speaker 1: Allen and my Hr on new songs.

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Speaker 22: And be.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up in the next hour, We're going to

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Speaker 3: have a chat to Shane Solly about the market reaction

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Speaker 3: to the US debate. On Friday, Rob Fight is going

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Speaker 3: to talk us through how he plans to transform New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's drinks packaging industry, and Gavin Gray will be with

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Speaker 3: us out of the UK with the latest on their

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Speaker 3: election in the run up to it. Right now it's

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Speaker 3: seven par six and with us right now as Nicola

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Speaker 3: Willius the Finance Minister. Evening, Niccola, good evening, Heather. Now

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Speaker 3: what are you in charge of in terms of the

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Speaker 3: new Action Plan?

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Speaker 22: Well, the rebuild the economy and ease the cost of

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Speaker 22: living section of the plan has a number of initiatives

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Speaker 22: in it and is the Finance Minister. I take an

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Speaker 22: interest in many of those, and I'm also, of course

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Speaker 22: always in charge of delivering on our policy so tactically

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Speaker 22: from the thirty fifth of July, that'll be me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you've gone because you famously had the biggest

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Speaker 3: one in the last planned didn't Yeah, the budget, So

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Speaker 3: have you gone from was it like overload Nicola in

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Speaker 3: Q two and then rest are a wee bit in

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Speaker 3: Q three.

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Speaker 22: Now because we're already planning for next year budget Heather,

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Speaker 22: and as we've fait, it's going to be another type one.

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Speaker 22: So we need to be looking right now at where

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Speaker 22: money is not going to its best impact so we

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Speaker 22: can make good decisions on that. And I'm also very focused,

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Speaker 22: as you'll imagine, on how we strengthen this economy and

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Speaker 22: get it growing faster. So I'm working with ministers across

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Speaker 22: government on what we can do to make it easier

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Speaker 22: for businesses to invest, to hire people to grow.

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Speaker 3: Number fifteen on the Listers initiate the second Regulatory Review

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Speaker 3: to identify and remove unnecessary red tape? Do you know

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Speaker 3: what that's going to be into?

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Speaker 22: That has not been decided yet. The first one, of course,

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Speaker 22: is on early childhood education, where there are lots of

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Speaker 22: red tapes and early childhood centers that both make that

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Speaker 22: care more expensive and harder to deliver. And I think

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Speaker 22: that David Seymour will be making an announcement about the

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Speaker 22: second review shortly yet.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what it is?

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Speaker 22: I do I do know what it is, but I've

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Speaker 22: got to steal a Sunday. You see, it's his review

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Speaker 22: to announce, and I want him to have the fair

1514
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 22: in fear and celebration about it. But it's another area

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 22: of life where we've had complaints from people saying there's

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 22: rules are ridiculus.

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Speaker 3: Does it include scaffolding, because I'm into that. If it

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: does include scaffolding, it's no.

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Speaker 22: It doesn't. But what we are doing in the next

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,879
Speaker 22: three months is getting rid of the barriers to oversee

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 22: building products being used in New Zealand. So that will

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 22: make it cheaper for diires like you to get the

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 22: range of products and suing your house retuvation.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The problem the scaffolding is when you can't do it yourself. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by number sixteen. Take Cabinet decisions on new

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: regulations to remove the ge ban. Now, had that been

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 3: in there a few years ago, that would have been

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01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: such a hot potato. Do you think it's going to

1530
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: be this time is just going to Do you think

1531
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: it's going to just kind of float through?

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 14: Well?

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 22: I think that New Zealanders understand that science has moved

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 22: on a huge amount and if we want to be

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 22: part of solutions for our climate issues, and we want

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 22: to have smart food producers. We've got to get with

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 22: the program and make safe use of gene.

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Speaker 14: We've come around to it, I think we have.

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 22: The conversation has really changed from where it was a

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 22: decade or two ago. I remember the outrage about Helen

1541
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 22: Clark and Cornngate, and that seems like a different era.

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 22: I think we're now in an era where people understand

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 22: the power of science. Of course we have to safely

1544
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 22: reflate these new techniques and technologies. That's appropriate, but other

1545
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 22: countries all over the world are doing it and we're

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01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 22: well behind the aprille. So let's play catch up.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 3: Are we doing an inquiry into what happened in Whyde One?

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 23: We will do a short sharp review.

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 22: I was in Hawke's Bay on Thursday and there are

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 22: questions being asked about how the river mouth and the

1551
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 22: bar we're managed and whether or not that lead to

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 22: the flooding being worse than it might otherwise have been.

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 22: So there's questions for the regional council and for the

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 22: local council to work through, and so yes, we will

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 22: support a short chart review.

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01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, good now, Nikola. If Hawks Bay Regional Council is

1557
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: found to have been responsible for not clearing that bar

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: fast enough, that would be the second time in a

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 3: major event that they've let their communities down. So what

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: happens to them?

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Speaker 22: Well, this is why we want to first do this

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01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 22: short chart review. I know that Minister Mitchell lets the

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 22: Regional Council know of that today, and I don't want

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 22: to get ahead of that. But of course the purpose

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 22: of these things is to find out what happened and

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 22: how do we stop it happening.

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell has gone in contact with hawks Bay Regional

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: Council told them there will be an inquiry, yes.

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Speaker 22: And he's also been in touch with Wider today to

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 22: let you know as well.

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: Okay, and you don't know what the potential ramifications could be. Frankly,

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 3: these people, if they are letting their communities down, like

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 3: literally lives were at risk in the Esque Valley, they

1574
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: can't be entrusted to keep on actually looking after their communities.

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 3: We have to take the task off them, don't we.

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 22: Well, it's really important. I don't get ahead of it

1577
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 22: because I don't understand the ins and outs of what

1578
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 22: happened here. I don't have the stacks to hand. So

1579
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 22: the first job is get the fact about what actually happens.

1580
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 22: Then understand if there we're in eras, why those eras occurved.

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 22: Then understand what we need to do so that they

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 22: don't happen again in the future. So chort chat, review,

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 22: get to the fact of the matter, and then actions

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 22: from there.

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff, happy here, listen on the GPS. Do

1586
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: we just need to bite the bullet and allow them

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 3: to charge patients more so they can make their books balance.

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 22: Well, in some cases GPS will do that. We put

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 22: in considerable funding in our budget for health and ring

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 22: fence to a significant portion of that for primary health care.

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 22: So more than half a billion dollars in uplifted funding

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 22: for primary health care this year alone. So we recognize

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01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 22: that GPS provide a vital health service for many of us.

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 22: It's actually the only time we interact.

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 3: With the problem is okay, So the problem is they

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: can only raise their fees by as much as Health

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: New Zealand says they can, and at the moment what

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01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 3: they are able to charge, you know, the funding that

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: they're bringing in is about a call of or maybe

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01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 3: half of what they need, so they need to change

1601
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 3: people a whole lot more. Would you be open to that.

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 22: Well, that's something they're working through with Health New Zealand

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 22: right now, and of course it varies from community to

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 22: community and health user to health user. I think we

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01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 22: all recognize that there are some people who are more

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 22: able to pay than others, and so Health New Zealand

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 22: are working through what is the requirements that's currently in place,

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 22: how do we make sure that that's going to work

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 22: for GPS over the next twelve months, and what does

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 22: that funding that bring them look like. So there are

1611
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 22: active discussions happening at the moment.

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: Why was Andrew McKenzie told to quit a KO, I'm

1613
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: not sure that was the case. Well, Simon Mota basically

1614
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: told us before that he sat him down to him

1615
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: to quit.

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 22: Well, obviously that's an employment matter. It's a matter between

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01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 22: that board chair and Andrew McKenzie. So you've been talking

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 22: to the right to some who has the ability to

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 22: comment on that and betail on that Simon, So I

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 22: defer to him.

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 16: On this matter.

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 3: He had to say nice things about Andrew McKenzie though,

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01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: because like it's an employment matter and stuff, you don't

1624
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 3: have to Nikola because you're a politician. So was he

1625
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: not up to the job.

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 22: Oh, I have to be very careful at all times. Heither,

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01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 22: because I don't employ Andrew McKenzie. The board does, and

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 22: I have to respect that and know my place.

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: No fair enough, Okay, did you watch the debate?

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 22: I watched parts of it, yes, And and as a

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 22: New Zealand Government minister, I am lost of you that

1632
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 22: it's very important that Americans make their own decision about

1633
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 22: who they wish to vote for president. In the consideration

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 22: of who did what on the debate, I mean, not

1635
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 22: a matter for me.

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01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 3: You won't say out loud, he's obviously going snile, I

1637
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: won't say that. No, Okay, have you found any replacement? Fairies?

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 14: Yet?

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,520
Speaker 22: We have got options on the table, and as ministers,

1640
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 22: we are considering those options. We want to replace the

1641
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 22: theories in a way sensible, that represents good value for money,

1642
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 22: and that's better thought through than the last proposition, which

1643
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 22: would have resulted in that we're too big for the

1644
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 22: birds and may not even have been able to negotiate

1645
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 22: this stry.

1646
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 3: Actually, hey, that's not in the forty forty action plan

1647
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 3: for the quarter. So when do we find out about

1648
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: the Fairies.

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 22: You'll find out about the series once ministers have made decisions,

1650
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 22: and I expect that we'll be within the.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: Quarter three months. I suppose we can live with it. Nickola,

1652
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: have you how are you going to meet with the

1653
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 3: key we rail bosses in the next week.

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 22: Yes, we are hoping to get together this week. I'm

1655
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 22: started sounding hesitant because I haven't actually seen whether my

1656
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 22: office had landed the meeting time for lots of ministers

1657
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 22: who are wanting to meet with a qui rout at

1658
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 22: the same time.

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: All right, I hope it's early in the quarter that

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 3: we find out in nicolare just saying, because I'm here

1661
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 3: for the fairies.

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 22: By the way, Yeah, we look, we understand and and

1663
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 22: we are keen to get to a solution too, really

1664
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 22: keen also not to repeat the mistakes of the past,

1665
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 22: where arguably decisions were rushed that then the manifications of

1666
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 22: which went thought through.

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: So we want to do it once and do it right,

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 3: all right, Nicholas, thank you so much, appreciate your time.

1669
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: That's Nikola. Willis the finance and stuff. Found it very

1670
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: hard to hide my disappointment that I might have to

1671
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: wait three months to find out what's happening with the

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: fairies heither. I've got two words for the next review,

1673
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: traffic management. You know what I would actually take that

1674
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 3: over scaffolding, wouldn't you? Sixteen past six.

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather duplicy

1676
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: Ellen with the business hours. Thanks to my HR, the

1677
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on newstalksb.

1678
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: Many New Zealand homes are cold, damp and unhealthy to

1679
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 3: live in. Did you know that almost one in ten

1680
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: households are concerned about significant mold in their home. That's

1681
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: why Habitat for Humanity New Zealand work with families in

1682
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 3: housing need to make homes more habitable and also healthier,

1683
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 3: from providing critical home repairs all the way through to

1684
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 3: installing double line full length curtains to make a room warmer.

1685
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 3: Habitat's Warm Fuzzies campaign aims to raise funds to allow

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: Habitat to continue their critical work helping New Zealand households

1687
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: and housing need into warmer, dryer and healthier homes. It's

1688
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: a great cause and AMI Insurance agrees with that. Am

1689
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 3: I are proud supporters of Habitat and the Warm Fuzzies campaign.

1690
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: If you'd like to support Habitat's work by donating to

1691
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Speaker 3: habitat and get a warm fuzzy yourself, then head along

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Speaker 3: z slash warm Fuzzies. All donations will go towards helping

1694
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: New Zealand families and housing need have a warm, at,

1695
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 3: dryer and safer home this winter. That's habitat dot org

1696
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Speaker 3: dot z slash warm Fuzzies.

1697
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: Heather do for cla bloody hoo.

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: So Tucker Caulson, right, I have a little bit more

1699
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: Tucker Culson from you for you from the address that

1700
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 3: he gave in Camber and now important of course, Camber's

1701
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: where Parliament is, as you know in Australia, so that's

1702
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 3: where the press gallery is. And this particular exchange between

1703
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 3: Tucker Culson and a journalist has gone viral in the state.

1704
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: This is AAP Newswire's Catwong asking him a question that

1705
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: leads to him basically just ripping her one.

1706
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 24: Hi, Tucker, thank you so much for your address today.

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 24: So you talked a little bit about immigration and in

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01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 24: the past you've talked about how white Australians Americans Europeans

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 24: are being replaced by non white immigrants in what is

1710
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 24: often referred to as the great replacement theory.

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: This is the scene. And I said that waits for

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 3: being replaced. Well, I don't think I said that.

1713
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 24: Well, it's been mentioned on your show four thousand times.

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01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 12: And really, when did I say that on your I said,

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 12: waits for being replaced?

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 3: You have said that before?

1717
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 12: Really, yeah, I would challenge you to say that, because

1718
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 12: I'm pretty sure I haven't said that.

1719
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: So he then goes on to say to her that

1720
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: And I just want to make it clear, I'm not

1721
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: a fan of Tucker Carson. I have no particular feeling

1722
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: about him whatsoever. So I'm not defending him, but just

1723
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 3: explaining to you what happened here. He goes on to

1724
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 3: say that he never said white Americans. He said native

1725
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 3: born Americans and native born Americans are basically black Americans,

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Speaker 3: Asian Americans, white Americans, whatever, anyone who was born in America,

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Speaker 3: as opposed to people not born in America. Catwong not

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: having it, him not having it either.

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Speaker 12: Like, that's my position, And if you think that's racist,

1730
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 12: that's your problem.

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Speaker 3: I never called you a racist. But of course you,

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 3: but of course you are suggesting.

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Speaker 12: And I must say, one of the reasons why people

1734
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 12: don't like people like you in the media is that

1735
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 12: you never say exactly what you mean. Your slurs are

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01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 12: all by implication and.

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 3: So then she but she's feisty, she escalates it.

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Speaker 24: This is the same theory or as you say, idea

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 24: that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting.

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Speaker 3: Wearing come to you know what I mean? It's also

1741
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 3: it's not First of all.

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Speaker 24: It's inspired the worst, the one of the worst Australian

1743
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 24: guys just stupid in the media.

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01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't pay well.

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Speaker 12: Look, I'm sorry, I've lived among people like you for

1746
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 12: too long and I don't mean to I don't mean

1747
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 12: to call you, call you stupid. Maybe you're just pretending

1748
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 12: to be.

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01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 3: But the pair of them just keep going at it. Honestly,

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01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: it goes on for such a long time, and she

1751
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: goes in one more time.

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01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 12: How dare you try to tie me to some lunatic

1753
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 12: who murdered people? How dare are you actually And in fact,

1754
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 12: I mean, do you know what I mean, I'd be like,

1755
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 12: you know, Hitler wore those shoes. A lot of people

1756
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 12: are saying that you're like Hitler, can you explain those

1757
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 12: shoes Hitler were exactly the same shoes?

1758
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: And you're like, I've got nothing.

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 12: To do with Hitler. That's how I feel about your absurd,

1760
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 12: disingenuous question.

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01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 3: Actually he is, she is going in one more time.

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Speaker 24: Well, so you don't think you harbor any kind of

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 24: responsibility for these hate crimes.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I'm trying to be charitable. I'm trying to

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 12: be charitable. I was like, maybe you're just pretending to

1766
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,839
Speaker 12: be dumb. Now I don't think it's an act anyway.

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Speaker 3: Conservative Americans love it. It's gone viral. CAMT Wong, You've

1768
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: got to give her some credit for just like just

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01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: go in at it some more. And the rest of

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01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: us are just wondering, well, I don't know what does

1771
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 3: it say about journalism. Make get your facts straight before

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 3: you stand up and ask a question. I suppose six

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Speaker 3: twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, MicroB or just plain economics, it's all

1775
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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Hinther Duple, Cy Ellen's and

1776
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for sme US.

1777
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: Talks right six twenty six to the markets. We're going

1778
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 3: to have a look at the impact the US presidential

1779
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: debate had on markets shortly. But first let's get an

1780
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: update on Fletcher Building. Shane Solely from Harbor Asset Management

1781
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: is with us A Shane.

1782
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Speaker 15: Hey, how are you going very good?

1783
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 18: Thank you?

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01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: So Fletcher's handed the hotel of Disgui City hasn't.

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 21: Yes, it has?

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Speaker 16: Yes, Yeah, And look, I think the Fletcher Building share

1787
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 16: fors up six percent today after really delivering an outcome

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01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 16: that we haven't seen for a while from Fletcher's, which

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01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 16: is actually delivering a project on and within a time frame,

1790
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 16: within a within a budget. And certainly that's that's been

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 16: a bit of a bit of a boost uns. A

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 16: blowout in costs something expected, and certainly there's a few

1793
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 16: more hurdles for Fletchers to clear, but this is a positive.

1794
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 16: It is certainly in the right direction.

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01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Now okay, how did the markets react to

1796
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: that debate?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, it was a pretty interesting outcome as that

1798
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 16: the day went by, certainly the market side, the price

1799
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 16: and more potential for a Trump victory. Still very early

1800
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 16: in the campaign, it's a long way to go. But

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Speaker 16: as certainly what a business were focusing and on was

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Speaker 16: the rests around some of the Trump policies, particularly trade protections,

1803
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Speaker 16: and this is the one where's a lot of chat

1804
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 16: about increasing tariff on Chinese inputs in particular, that would

1805
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 16: be inflationary and potentially could trigger a broader trade war.

1806
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 16: Policies about tax cuts, really embedding those existing text cuts permanently,

1807
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Speaker 16: immigration restrictions, and unwinding some of the green energy initiatives

1808
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 16: that have been put in place by the current Democratic

1809
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 16: government said look a better way to go. But assuming

1810
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 16: it's put of vestas on the back foot, you know,

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Speaker 16: the weary about what those policy changes could do.

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Speaker 3: And what about the immigration restrictions, what would be the

1813
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: impact of that if Trump was.

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Speaker 16: In Yeah, look, the focus is on undocumented workers. This

1815
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:53,440
Speaker 16: is potentially stagflationary. It potentially slows economic growth while increasing

1816
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 16: the cost of labor. And assuming one of the things

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Speaker 16: that the Democrats can point to is a opening the

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Speaker 16: borders up letting people come in, which is what the

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 16: US has done for decades, has actually been good for

1820
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Speaker 16: the economy. Everybody's got a different perspective, but I think

1821
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 16: it's about the process, which is clearly what the Republican

1822
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 16: Trump Lett government look to tie up.

1823
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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting stuff, Shane, Thank you very much appreciated. Look

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 3: forward to talking to you again. That Shane Solly of

1825
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: Harbor Asset Management, Right, Rob Fife is going to be

1826
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 3: with us next, talk us through the plans to transform

1827
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 3: New Zealand's drink packaging industry. It's a bit of a mouthful,

1828
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: isn't it? Here the thank you for playing the Tucker

1829
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: Carlson clips. It's hilarious. I wish I was as quick

1830
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 3: on my feet as he is. Oh hey, you were.

1831
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: It's on his Twitter account and go and watch it

1832
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: because you have to admire his intelligence. He's a very

1833
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 3: clever man, but he is such a brat like he's

1834
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: obviously just so arrogant because of how clever he is.

1835
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: Impossible to be married and impossible.

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: Headline's next, everything from SMS to the corporates, The Business

1837
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Dupleicy Ellen and my HR, the HR

1838
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: platform for sme us talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 8: It's time.

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 3: Javin Gray is going to be on a Saturday UK

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01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: and ten minutes time. I'll tell you what. I don't

1843
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: know if he's going to talk about this, so I'm

1844
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: just going to get this across Just just get this

1845
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: across you ahead of times. I think is absolutely fascinating.

1846
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: Labor's obviously going to win the UK election, right that

1847
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: they're a shue and I mean the Tories keep telling

1848
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: themselves the polls aren't right, but they're dreaming. But what's

1849
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: really fascinating is that it's emerged in the papers overnight

1850
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 3: that Labor has been resisting union demands to champion the

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: full day working week. Now for a political party to

1852
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 3: champion something like a full day working week, that that

1853
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: is like yeah, I mean, they don't just go out

1854
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: there and go yay full day working week, like they

1855
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: would have to start making moves towards taking the country

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01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 3: towards a full day working week, and the union keen

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01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 3: on it, and Labor is quite rightly resisting that because

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01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: that is that's a really big fundamental change, I mean

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: to society right all like it just it's a nice idea.

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01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 3: It's a really nice idea for some people to be

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Speaker 3: able to do it, but for all of us to

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Speaker 3: do it would be massive. Anyway, The interesting thing I

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: think about that is what unions do in one country

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01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: unions do in another country. Eventually, the idea just goes around,

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: So keep an eye out for that. Our unions will

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01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 3: start getting into that anytime soon. I would imagine hither

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: if we had an amalgamation in Wellington with the four councils,

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 3: my choice of overall mayor out of all four of

1869
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: them would be seventy year old Wayne Guppy. Now, if

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: this is a commentary on Joe Biden's age, I'm with you.

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01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with being seventy years old or eighty

1872
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: years old, or seventy eight years old or eighty one

1873
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: years old. The guy is just a really bad eighty

1874
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: one year old, isn't he? So yeah, I would take Wayne.

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: I'll take Wayne over Tory any day, and he's much

1876
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: much older than her. Twenty two away from seven, Heather

1877
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Speaker 3: Duples In New Zealand, Boss Rob Fei's new business, Recoorp,

1878
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 3: is set to open an aluminium care and manufacturer in September. Today,

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: Recorp announced its first CEO, former House of Travel boss

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01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: former and New Zealand executive Bruce Parton. Now, the plant

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: cost one hundred million bucks to build and it's going

1882
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: to be able to churn out eighteen hundred and fifty

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01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 3: cans a minute. And Rob Fife is with us to

1884
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: talk about this.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Rob, Hey, Heather, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, good to talk to you. I mean, it

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01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: sounds to me pretty amazing that you guys managed to

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01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 3: scratch together one hundred million bucks just from New Zealand investors,

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Speaker 3: is it, well.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. It gives you a sense of

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01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 7: confidence that as tough as things are out there, there's

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Speaker 7: sort of a bunch of people that really believe in

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 7: New Zealand and the opportunities here. So the vast majority

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01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 7: of that money came from six or seven people. And

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01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 7: this industry today is dominated by a couple of Australian

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01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 7: companies and they're just passionate about seeing the benefits and

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01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,799
Speaker 7: the rewards stay in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Did I am I reading this correctly? That Annamobray, who's

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: one of the investors that you've got there, wants to

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Speaker 3: get aluminum cans to basically steal I could share off

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01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 3: glass and plastic.

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. You know, if you look today glass in terms

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01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 7: of single single serve containers, glass makes up about forty

1905
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 7: percent of the market. They weigh ten times more than

1906
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 7: an aluminum container. There's obviously a whole lot more material, carbon,

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01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 7: fragile and so on. Plus we all know the issues

1908
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 7: with plastic. They finally were into our waterways, our food

1909
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 7: system and so on. So alimineum, without doubt is the

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01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 7: fastest growing container type and it's the one that's the

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01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 7: most food safe. The material is infinitely recyclable. The story

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01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 7: is an amazing story, and it's say we've convinced a

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 7: bunch of New Zealanders to get behind it. Brank to life.

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Speaker 7: Not for the faint hearted? Is this is a really

1915
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 7: big project?

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Speaker 3: Why do you say not for the faint hearted?

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Speaker 7: You know to as you say, you know, there's one

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Speaker 7: hundred million being invest in this. The Bank of New

1919
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 7: Zealand's got behind it with a big chunk of bank finance.

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Speaker 7: To spend that sort of money before you turn your

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01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 7: first dollar of revenue, you need a lot of passionate

1922
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 7: people that really believe in a in a vision. And

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01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 7: as I say that, that certainly isn't for everyone, but

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 7: you know, we're very very committed.

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Speaker 3: Rob What am I getting at the moment in plastic

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01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 3: or glass that you would like me to get an aluminium?

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Speaker 7: Well, ultimately, I mean I've just come back from overseas.

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 7: You know, water now around the world is all moving

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01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 7: into aluminium, a combination of both aluminum cans as we

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01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 7: think of them today and also screw top or resealable

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 7: alimineum bottles. So many, particularly sports venues but also a

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Speaker 7: lot of hospitality venues are just banning plastic bottles in Toto,

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01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 7: so water is a big one. Soft drinks are glass

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Speaker 7: now overseas you're seeing glass. Sorry, beer is moving up

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 7: more and more away from glass into aluminium, both again

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Speaker 7: cans and aluminium bottles. At the moment, you know, there's

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Speaker 7: no aliminium bottles made in this part of the world

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Speaker 7: at all, and that's certainly on our roadmap to bring

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Speaker 7: aluminium beer bottles and water bottles into this market.

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Speaker 2: I feel weird.

1941
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Speaker 3: About that because I feel like I feel like screwing

1942
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Speaker 3: it would sort of like lit little bits of metal

1943
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Speaker 3: into my drink. Am I just is it I'm overthinking

1944
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Speaker 3: in I definitely am overthinking it.

1945
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Speaker 7: So not that I'm accute you of overthinking, but it's

1946
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Speaker 7: you know, alumineum in terms of in the food system

1947
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Speaker 7: in the body. You know it's not a good thing,

1948
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Speaker 7: but the aluminem that comes into our food source doesn't

1949
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Speaker 7: come out of containers or aluminium in that state. It's

1950
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Speaker 7: very very stable and you know, but don't flake off

1951
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 7: and so on. Aliminium comes in through various foods and

1952
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 7: minerals in our souls and that sort of thing. That's

1953
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 7: the biggest risk of aluminium into our diet. Element in

1954
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Speaker 7: bottle or containers absolutely safe.

1955
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Speaker 3: So Bruce Parton, you'll have worked with him at A

1956
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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

1957
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1958
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've worked with with Bruce for twenty years. So

1959
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 7: you know, we've got a great relationship, very very passionate.

1960
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Speaker 7: It's not like we're trying to create create a in

1961
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Speaker 7: New Zealand old boy network. But you know, working with

1962
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Speaker 7: people you're really non trust. I think Chris is a

1963
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 7: bit busy at the moment, but but yeah, you know,

1964
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Speaker 7: I'm really you know, I love working with people who

1965
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Speaker 7: I know can deliver the results, and Bruce's definitely one

1966
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Speaker 7: of those.

1967
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Speaker 3: What do you like about him? I think I saw

1968
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 3: somewhere that you were quoted as saying he learns, he

1969
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: takes not necessarily criticism, but he takes direction.

1970
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Speaker 7: No, no, he takes criticism really well. I mean, but

1971
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Speaker 7: I made a comment that you know, I mentor a

1972
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 7: lot of young up and coming entrepreneurs. And one of

1973
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Speaker 7: the things I'm always saying to these to these folcus,

1974
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 7: you know, the people that learn the more, that grow

1975
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 7: the fastest, that achieved the most, are the people that

1976
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 7: make it the easiest to give feedback to because are

1977
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 7: the ones. You know, if they're too defensive, then you're

1978
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 7: a little reserved. And what you say to them, Bruce,

1979
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,919
Speaker 7: you can give it straight between the eyes and varness

1980
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 7: so exactly what you think. He just soaks it up.

1981
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Speaker 7: He listens, he considers, he responds, and he adapts. And

1982
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 7: he's just one of the most adaptable people I know.

1983
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 7: And that's I guess one of the reasons, because your

1984
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 7: feedback exactly back the other way. So we have a

1985
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 7: really really strong relationship. Can be a bit sporty at times,

1986
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Speaker 7: but that's how you create healthy outcomes.

1987
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Speaker 3: Great, Rob, give me your take on right, you've been overseas,

1988
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Speaker 3: as you say, give me your take on coming back

1989
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Speaker 3: to New Zealand. What's the mood like here. It feels

1990
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Speaker 3: like it might be a little gloomy.

1991
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Speaker 7: You know, it does feel gloomy, and it does feel

1992
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 7: at the moment very introspective. You know, I've just come back.

1993
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 7: I was in London. In London, you would argue or

1994
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 7: the UK definitely has many of the issues that we have,

1995
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Speaker 7: some of them even worse and more amplified than ours.

1996
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Speaker 7: The crime on the streets in London is deeply, deeply concerning.

1997
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Speaker 7: Yet when you go out and have dinner with people

1998
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 7: or you're socializing with people, no one seems to be

1999
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Speaker 7: as consumed by all those issues.

2000
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Speaker 21: As we get.

2001
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Speaker 7: Here in New Zealand, they're all talking about, you know,

2002
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 7: what's around the corner, the upside, the possibilities, you know,

2003
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 7: and the opportunities, and it's it's just a mindset that

2004
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 7: doesn't allow them to get so consumed by the to

2005
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 7: say that, you know, the stuff that we seem to

2006
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 7: just allow us to drag away from the great possibilities

2007
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 7: and opportunities for this country. So I'm sitting outside New Zealand,

2008
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 7: I get more optimistic about New Zealand and I feel

2009
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 7: it's ourselves and our mindset that's the biggest constraint on

2010
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 7: the possibilities for this country. Nothing that's structurally wrong about

2011
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 7: this company country, You're nothing that's politically constraining us about

2012
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Speaker 7: this country. In a great country, really talented people, we

2013
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 7: just have to get that self belief in a bit

2014
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Speaker 7: of mojo back.

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Speaker 3: I think there's some good advice in that.

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Speaker 20: Rob.

2017
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

2018
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it's nice to have you back in

2019
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Speaker 3: the country doing great things. It's Rob five, Chairman of Recorp. Heather,

2020
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 3: aluminium versus glass bottles. I like to see if anything

2021
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 3: is in my beer bottle. So you like the glass, Chris,

2022
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 3: But this is the mistake that you're making. You need

2023
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 3: to understand. If you have the aluminium, nobody can see

2024
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 3: if you're still a big drinker because I'm not right.

2025
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Speaker 3: So I'm just giving you some tips from the old days.

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Speaker 3: Go for the aluminium because nobody can see how much

2027
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 3: you've necked out of your drink. So you could go

2028
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 3: like two thirds in one go. They don't know that,

2029
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Speaker 3: and then you just swap it out for another one.

2030
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Speaker 3: Nobody needs to see. You could just be binging by yourself.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome fourteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME US Talk.

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Speaker 3: Sa'd be Kevin grays Ow, UK correspondent this evening. Hello, Gavin,

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Speaker 3: Hi there, Gavin. I'm pleased to see labors resist the

2037
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: four day working week ide because that would be messive,

2038
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Speaker 3: wouldn't it.

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Speaker 25: It would be massive, And it's also one of the

2040
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Speaker 25: things that I think many people are worried about voting

2041
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 25: labor for the influence of the unions, because it is

2042
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 25: the unions who fund the Labor Party, and it's the

2043
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 25: unions who have been calling for this four day week.

2044
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Speaker 25: So particularly the trade union Unison, they do a lot

2045
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 25: of health working with their members and they've been calling

2046
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 25: on labor. They are one of the key backers of

2047
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 25: the big opposition party here for a for d week

2048
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 25: but no impact on workers' salaries, so in other words,

2049
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Speaker 25: effectively a twenty percent pay rise. They've passed the motion

2050
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Speaker 25: at their annual conference saying it's the next step. Now

2051
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 25: They're not alone actually in this other unions have also

2052
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 25: been pushing for this, the Public and Commercial Services Union,

2053
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 25: lots of civil servants in that public sector staff calling

2054
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Speaker 25: for a significant shortening of hours, and a joint letter

2055
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Speaker 25: of forty business leaders pushing the government to introduce working

2056
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Speaker 25: hours law. So this is a growing thing. It's just

2057
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 25: whether Secure Starma, the leader of the opposition party labor

2058
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 25: will or will not permit it. We're being told at

2059
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 25: the moment, no, that's not part of the plan. But yeah,

2060
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Speaker 25: something that with no doubt in people's minds when they

2061
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Speaker 25: go to the polls.

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Speaker 3: On Thursday, and Devin, listen, how bad is it in Paris?

2063
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Speaker 25: Well, the streets of some parts of Paris have been

2064
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 25: a little bit fraught overnight with the rise of the

2065
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 25: far right. So francis currently one stage through a two

2066
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 25: stage process voting for a parliament, and it looks like

2067
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 25: the far right party of Marine La Penn the National

2068
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 25: Rally Party, really has exploded onto the scene and he's

2069
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 25: pretty much now at the gates of power. There is

2070
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 25: a second vote on Sunday of this coming weekend. Before

2071
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 25: we could definitely say that, but the National Rally Party

2072
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 25: one a third of the vote, a left wing a line,

2073
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 25: it's a grouping of different left wing organizations, won twenty

2074
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 25: eight percent. But as they said, it's a grouping of

2075
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 25: different parties. And Emmanual Macron's presidential tenure has really been dented.

2076
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 25: He just won twenty percent of the votes and so

2077
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 25: consequently the National Right and a very very strong position

2078
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 25: for this what they're trying for now is that like

2079
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 25: an absolute majority of the two hundred and eighty nine

2080
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 25: seats in the five hundred and seventy seven seat National Assembly.

2081
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 25: As I said, the next round is on Sunday. But

2082
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 25: their message of tougher immigration, tax cuts, law and order

2083
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 25: being improved, they really have resonated with voters and an

2084
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 25: election that Emmanual Macron kind of called it a fit

2085
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 25: of peak, having done so badly in the European elections,

2086
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 25: is coming back to bite him well.

2087
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 3: Two right, Gavin, listen, thank you. I appreciate it. As always,

2088
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: we talked to you in a couple of days. Gavin

2089
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Gray are UK correspondent eight away from seven.

2090
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Speaker 1: Whether it's micro MicroB or just playing economics, it's all

2091
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Ellen and my HR,

2092
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME used.

2093
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 3: Top it's six away from seven. I meant to mention

2094
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: this earlier in the show and I actually forgot, but

2095
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 3: we've found out. Do you remember when Golder's garment was

2096
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 3: sentenced on Thursday, We didn't get the judges reasons for

2097
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 3: why she handed down the sentence she did and why

2098
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: she'd gone with a conviction when what Gold was wanted

2099
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 3: was a discharge without conviction, and so on and so on.

2100
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: Now we do know because the sentencing notes appear to

2101
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 3: have been released. Judge didn't buy the mental health argument.

2102
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 3: She accepted that Goldris' mental health contributed to the shoplifting,

2103
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: but not that it caused it. She pointed out that

2104
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 3: the clinical psychologist who had been treating Golders for two

2105
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: years did not actually say whether the mental health problems

2106
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 3: contributed to the offending, just that the behavior that she

2107
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 3: was exhibiting is consistent with trauma symptoms, and so it

2108
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 3: was a bit of an equivocation on that, and so

2109
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 3: she said, as a result, I am unable to accept

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01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 3: the submission that Miss Garment's poor mental health was a

2111
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: substantive or operative cause of the offending. So if you

2112
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 3: did not buy the argument all along, and I did

2113
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 3: not buy the argument all along, we would bang on,

2114
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 3: weren't we? Even the judge agreed. I quite like this, judge.

2115
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 3: By the way, Now listen, weird stuff happens in Dunedin.

2116
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 3: Here you go, here's your installment. Friday night, early Saturday morning,

2117
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 3: three teenagers aged between fifteen and sixteen decided to climb

2118
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 3: over a fence. I think into the neighbor's yard and

2119
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 3: steal a pigeon from the backyard coop. Somehow we got

2120
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Speaker 3: put back. I don't know where the parents did it,

2121
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: or they did it or whatever, but they did it again.

2122
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 3: They broke and again they kicked in the door of

2123
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 3: the pigeon coop. They stole the bird again, so the

2124
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 3: neighbor calls the cops. The cops arrive found them pretending

2125
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 3: to be asleep in the garage. So the cops say,

2126
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 3: we roused them, and when they pulled back a blanket,

2127
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 3: discovered a pigeon tucked under the arms of one of

2128
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,520
Speaker 3: the fifteen year olds. So the officers woke the homeowner

2129
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 3: informed them of the youth's actions. The boys were then

2130
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 3: taken home to their respective parents, who were also informed,

2131
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 3: and they were not happy because they did not know

2132
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 3: the boys were boozing. But on the scale of weird

2133
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 3: stuff that you do as a teenager, that's right up there.

2134
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 3: A putting the pigeon and bed with you that's weird.

2135
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 3: That is weird.

2136
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Speaker 26: Ants maybe stick to soft toys, magic rude to play

2137
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 26: us out tonight. They are on the lineup of One

2138
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 26: Love Festival. The whole lineup's out for the festival, which

2139
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 26: will be in Turning a Domain in January next year.

2140
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 26: Other people on the on the lineup Maulei, Rebel Soldiers,

2141
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 26: Catch a Fire, Jayburg in a Circle, Fiji Steel Pulse,

2142
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 26: Corella eighteen fourteen, Spawn, Breezy add Ees, and a whole

2143
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 26: Oh your House a shem as well, and a whole

2144
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 26: bunch More's a Shem.

2145
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 3: I've got a house of shem before I went to

2146
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 3: this lot. This lot sucked.

2147
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 26: Yeah, this is probably their only really famous song. I'm

2148
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 26: sure there will be people that have called them, but

2149
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 26: like you know.

2150
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 3: House of Shem all the way as you chose the

2151
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 3: wrong tune. Hey, By the way, Aaron's emaildon and said

2152
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 3: aluminium cans they put the coffee in them, so that

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Speaker 3: very popular over in Japan. Then you go, thank you

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Speaker 3: ants for a song, even though it sucks.

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Speaker 26: Reggae is really not my thing, Heather, like, I'm it's

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Speaker 26: important referring to.

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Speaker 2: Me for next time.

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Speaker 3: Give me a choice and I'll tell you which one.

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Speaker 15: Okay, they in charge of one.

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Speaker 3: From now, thank you, enjoy your evening, see tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Anywhere anywhere

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