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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Seat by Squeaky Door.

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Speaker 1: Or Squeaky Floor Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp.

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Speaker 1: The Resident Builder on News talks head.

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Speaker 3: By a house sizzle, even when it's dog, even when

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Speaker 3: the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when

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Speaker 3: the dog is too old to barn, and when you're sitting.

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Speaker 4: At the table trying not to starve, scissor home even

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Speaker 4: when we are benn even when you're there, this is

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Speaker 4: a long.

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Speaker 5: Even when there's God, even when you go around came

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Speaker 5: the ones you love, your moms.

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Speaker 3: Screamed on broken pains, appeel in.

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Speaker 5: From the locals lives well when they're gone and leaving

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Speaker 5: them has either when we'll brand, even when you're in

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Speaker 5: there alone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you're a really good morning and welcome along

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Speaker 6: to the Rism Builder on Sunday. You're with me people

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Speaker 6: wolf Camp, the rest of the Builder, and this is

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Speaker 6: our opportunity, as it is every Sunday, to talk about

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Speaker 6: things that are not basically important to us. There are

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Speaker 6: our houses. They are the places that we abide in,

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Speaker 6: the places that we have to look after, and the

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Speaker 6: places that Hopefully if we look after them, they will

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Speaker 6: look after us. So welcome along to this Sunday Morning session,

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Speaker 6: fourteenth of December. Yes, Christmas is looming. If you're trying

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Speaker 6: to crank through and get I don't know, a kitchen

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Speaker 6: or the fence finished. I get where you're at, but

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Speaker 6: I'm not doing that right now. You may hear a

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Speaker 6: slight difference to the tone of the program. So last

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Speaker 6: week I mentioned that we were we as in me

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Speaker 6: and the family away overseas. We've been traveling a little bit.

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Speaker 6: We're now back in the UK, where I'll be for

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Speaker 6: the next two weeks and then heading back via the

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Speaker 6: United States home again at the end of the year.

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Speaker 6: So I sit here actually at a very good friend's house,

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Speaker 6: thirty three minutes on the train north of London. If

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Speaker 6: you leave Euston station and you get the high speed

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Speaker 6: to my mate's place, and that's where I am. The

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Speaker 6: remarkable thing about this particular house, while and I say

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Speaker 6: this with the greatest respect, it is a relatively modest house,

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Speaker 6: but in the renovation that they've done, they have focused

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Speaker 6: there was frost on the top of the little skylight

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Speaker 6: figuring out that it's going to be. It had been

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Speaker 6: a cold night and yet, to be fair, I've spent

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Speaker 6: So all of that stuff that we talk about quite

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Speaker 6: the rest of it, but really I'll add one more thing.

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Speaker 6: And though I dropped some family off at an event

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Speaker 6: looking forward to your calls your company. Everything works exactly

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Speaker 6: text I can see your text from here, which is great.

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Speaker 6: So if you'd like to text nine to nine two

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Speaker 6: dot nz that will get the email to me as well,

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Speaker 6: despite the fact that I am literally on the other

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Speaker 6: this morning. I understand the There has been a mixture

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Speaker 6: So sounds like a typical early summer in Auckland, right,

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Speaker 6: Let's get into it. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 6: is the number to call if you've got questions around

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Speaker 6: building legislation. We finished the show last week just before

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Speaker 6: we tuned into with a long conversation an interview that

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Speaker 6: a barrister and solicitor working particularly in construction law, particularly

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Speaker 6: right and parties are at loggerheads, there's been a defect,

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Speaker 6: get his opinion on the proposal from government that will

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Speaker 6: introduce ten year home warranty schemes that will be compulsory

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Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars. It was great to have that

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Speaker 6: than happy to sort of revisit that particular discussion because

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Speaker 6: obviously it's going to be it's pretty big news actually

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Speaker 6: and really interesting. A couple of people that I've been

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Speaker 6: interesting discussion around how they do their warranty scheme. Had

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Speaker 6: real focus on energy efficiency and high performance homes here

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Speaker 6: in the UK as well. Fascinating conversation in the sense

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Speaker 6: that he was bemoaning the fact that their building, their

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Speaker 6: have a requirement for heating and he was genuinely flabbergasted

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Speaker 6: feeling right now it's pretty much one way traffic for

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Speaker 6: lines are open. The number to call eight hundred and

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Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty and Andy, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Goody Andy. Hello, Andy, Yep, go for it. You're on air. Yeah, Andy,

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Speaker 6: I can hear you, Well, maybe I can't. I heard

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Speaker 2: Andy.

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Speaker 6: Where have you gone? Mate? Right, I'll just pop you

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Speaker 6: take the ad break now, we'll see if we can

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Speaker 6: sort out the issue with the phone calls and the

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Speaker 6: not being able to hear you. Andy, stay by, stay

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Speaker 6: on the phone. We'll take short break. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

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Speaker 1: builder with Peter Wolfgat Call eight Youth Talk.

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Speaker 6: Radio News Talks. Heb we'll have a crack at this. Andy.

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Speaker 6: Greetings and a very good morning to you. Hello. Andy, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I'll have to let me see radio. How's that? Andy?

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Speaker 6: Can I hear? Now?

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Speaker 7: Have you got me? This time?

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Speaker 6: Got you? This time? Perfect? It's all working.

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Speaker 7: Oh great, Hey, I'm looking at it. I'm just going

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Speaker 7: to put this to you. Of I rent my home

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Speaker 7: And before I rented it out, there were issues with

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Speaker 7: He replaced a lot that iron sheets because there were

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Speaker 7: a couple of leaks, and he did extensive work. But

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Speaker 7: a few months ago I got a call from the

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Speaker 7: property manager. One of the leaks was still happening, so

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Speaker 7: I phoned him and he went round within a week

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Speaker 7: had a lot reckoned. He had fixed it, but two

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Speaker 7: weeks ago I got another call from a property manager

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Speaker 7: saying the leaks occurred again. But now whether he's busy

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Speaker 7: he is now not returning my calls to fix the league.

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Speaker 7: And I don't really want to be calling lawyers and

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Speaker 7: have to become heavy handed. But other than getting another

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Speaker 7: figure out where this leak's coming, it's quite frustrating because

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Speaker 7: I understand tradees are busy at this time a year,

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Speaker 7: but it's frustrating that he won't come to the party

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Speaker 7: understanding what your take on it is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, is there a possibility that what you've

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Speaker 6: got is two separate leaks, so he has fixed one

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Speaker 6: and then another one has occurred. That's a possibility. That's

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Speaker 6: being sort of looking at it from his perspective. The

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Speaker 6: other thing is do you happen to know if he

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Speaker 6: r A n Z member. And the reason I mentioned

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Speaker 6: that is that if the roofer is part of the

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Speaker 6: you can send them a message and just go, hey, look,

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Speaker 6: I really need you to come back and finish the job,

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Speaker 6: because what I asked you to do is fix the leak,

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Speaker 6: and the leak is still there. Therefore you haven't finished.

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Speaker 6: And in the event that you don't respond, I'm going

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Speaker 6: to go to the roofing association. Now that only works

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Speaker 6: if the roof is part of the roofing association, so

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Speaker 6: that would be the other thing to check.

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Speaker 7: Oh, okay, all right.

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Speaker 6: Apart from that, I mean you are kind of I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: he does have legal responsibility to address this, right, You've

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Speaker 6: asked him to do a job. He's completed it sort

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Speaker 6: of but not complete because it's still leaking. Therefore, under

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Speaker 6: the Consumer Guarantees Act and a whole bunch of other legislation,

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Speaker 6: he has a responsibility. But if he's not responding to

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Speaker 6: your messages, then yeah, you're right. You know, do you

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Speaker 6: want to have to go and spend a couple of

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Speaker 6: to come back, Then he's going to do so begrudgingly

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Speaker 6: in some ways. You know, you you've obviously paid for

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Speaker 6: the work that was done. Yes, right, Look, if it's urgent,

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Speaker 6: you may just have to go and get another roofer.

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Speaker 6: Oh, so you're talking about your water maine that comes

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Speaker 6: I don't understand. I really can't understand why they would

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the plumber's fault though, it's the

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Speaker 6: You know. That's those sorts of things can cause failures.

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Speaker 6: Look, it's a real possibility, and there have been cases where,

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Speaker 6: a possibility that you could trench alongside the driveway and

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Speaker 2: Well for four out of four so far, and you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's well, you know, again, I'm a little bit

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Speaker 6: And because did you pay the plumber directly or did

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Speaker 2: The plumber was paid, Well, directly, I've directly paid the

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Speaker 6: The person who installed it in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't gone back to him, but I've gone

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Speaker 6: Sure, but then if you can find out who installed

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Speaker 6: the suggestion was we'll go in there on a Saturday morning,

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Speaker 6: That was the easiest thing to do. The hot tip

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Speaker 6: It is six thirty four at News Talks. We're talking

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Speaker 6: all things building construction. Pete Wolfcamp, the resident builder with you. Oh,

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Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, that's the number to call.

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Speaker 1: Meta twice God was, but maybe called Pete first. Peter Wolfcamp,

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Speaker 6: A delightful text from Lynn. Here it goes, Hey, Pete,

432
00:25:28,255 --> 00:25:32,535
Speaker 6: could you wish my dad Warwick a very happy ninety

433
00:25:32,655 --> 00:25:37,655
Speaker 6: third birthday for tomorrow. He got his carpentry Joining Joinery

434
00:25:37,695 --> 00:25:42,855
Speaker 6: Apprenticeship certificate in nineteen fifty three and it's still and

435
00:25:42,935 --> 00:25:45,575
Speaker 6: he is still the first handy man that we call on,

436
00:25:45,775 --> 00:25:47,815
Speaker 6: but we have to try and stop them climbing up

437
00:25:47,855 --> 00:25:51,295
Speaker 6: the ladders. He's a huge fan of the show. Well, Warwick,

438
00:25:51,695 --> 00:25:56,015
Speaker 6: congratulations to you, sir on your ninety third birthday tomorrow.

439
00:25:56,615 --> 00:26:00,695
Speaker 6: I hope you celebrate in style. And I'm sure you've

440
00:26:00,775 --> 00:26:04,295
Speaker 6: got still got a lot of tremendous knowledge that you

441
00:26:04,335 --> 00:26:07,575
Speaker 6: can pass on to the next generation and generations beyond.

442
00:26:07,615 --> 00:26:11,695
Speaker 6: I'm sure, so happy birthday to you, Warrick, Right, Chris,

443
00:26:11,775 --> 00:26:12,935
Speaker 6: A very good morning to you.

444
00:26:14,695 --> 00:26:18,335
Speaker 11: Peter. Hey, this may sound this may sound a little

445
00:26:18,335 --> 00:26:22,895
Speaker 11: bit trivial, but I've got a few nails on my deck,

446
00:26:22,935 --> 00:26:25,095
Speaker 11: and when I say a few, I mean quite a lot.

447
00:26:25,615 --> 00:26:29,495
Speaker 11: They're starting to pop. And the other day I used

448
00:26:29,495 --> 00:26:32,135
Speaker 11: a hammer to, you know, smack one of the men

449
00:26:32,575 --> 00:26:37,575
Speaker 11: on the side, and it split the wood. I'm thinking,

450
00:26:38,375 --> 00:26:41,655
Speaker 11: do I soak the wood with water first and then

451
00:26:42,095 --> 00:26:45,455
Speaker 11: there's back in or is there a certain tool I

452
00:26:45,495 --> 00:26:49,255
Speaker 11: should be using instead of a hammer to like, like

453
00:26:49,615 --> 00:26:54,895
Speaker 11: not damage the wood. Clearly this was made by the

454
00:26:54,935 --> 00:26:57,655
Speaker 11: guy who lived here before me, But I'm wondering is

455
00:26:57,695 --> 00:26:59,575
Speaker 11: it just because he's cheek timber.

456
00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:00,935
Speaker 10: That's just what.

457
00:27:00,815 --> 00:27:01,575
Speaker 6: I've got to do.

458
00:27:02,815 --> 00:27:04,735
Speaker 2: I'm masking you.

459
00:27:06,055 --> 00:27:10,535
Speaker 6: Sorry, Yeah, no, that's all right. I want when those

460
00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:13,415
Speaker 6: nails pop up, do they pop up enough for you

461
00:27:13,495 --> 00:27:15,695
Speaker 6: to get some purchase on it and pull them out?

462
00:27:18,055 --> 00:27:18,295
Speaker 2: No?

463
00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:20,695
Speaker 11: No, they pop up enough to make sure you have

464
00:27:20,775 --> 00:27:22,375
Speaker 11: to wear shoes outside.

465
00:27:24,295 --> 00:27:28,815
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, typically it's not.

466
00:27:29,655 --> 00:27:29,895
Speaker 2: Yeah.

467
00:27:30,615 --> 00:27:33,575
Speaker 6: Typically, if we're nailing a deck off hand nailing it,

468
00:27:33,895 --> 00:27:36,255
Speaker 6: you would nail it and set the nail so that

469
00:27:36,295 --> 00:27:39,135
Speaker 6: it finishes just above the surface, because you don't want

470
00:27:39,175 --> 00:27:41,935
Speaker 6: to leave a half crown or a dollar mark from

471
00:27:41,975 --> 00:27:44,255
Speaker 6: the face of the hammer. Then you take a nail

472
00:27:44,295 --> 00:27:50,255
Speaker 6: punch and you drive it in. Typically a nail punch

473
00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:50,975
Speaker 6: will do the job.

474
00:27:52,415 --> 00:27:56,415
Speaker 11: Right now, these aren't flat head normal nails that I know.

475
00:27:56,695 --> 00:27:59,775
Speaker 11: They're like sort like they're dark and the sort of

476
00:27:59,895 --> 00:28:00,335
Speaker 11: round it.

477
00:28:02,175 --> 00:28:06,255
Speaker 6: Now, it's not a rosehead nail that's designed to sit flat.

478
00:28:07,335 --> 00:28:09,735
Speaker 6: That would be unusual for a deck, to be fair.

479
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:13,655
Speaker 11: I've dealt with a lot in this house.

480
00:28:14,895 --> 00:28:18,775
Speaker 6: Right, OK, that might be unusual. Look, I would suggest, yeah,

481
00:28:19,175 --> 00:28:21,455
Speaker 6: don't try and sync the nail with a hammer, use

482
00:28:21,455 --> 00:28:25,255
Speaker 6: a nail punch. If it's on the ingrain, then maybe

483
00:28:25,295 --> 00:28:27,335
Speaker 6: you don't drive it in that far, because that's where

484
00:28:27,375 --> 00:28:30,695
Speaker 6: you will get splitting. Typically, if you're nailing decking off,

485
00:28:30,935 --> 00:28:33,975
Speaker 6: you would always pre drill the ingrain. To be fair,

486
00:28:34,055 --> 00:28:36,615
Speaker 6: I've got to the point where I pre drill pretty

487
00:28:36,655 --> 00:28:40,735
Speaker 6: much everything regardless. The other option is if you can

488
00:28:40,775 --> 00:28:45,415
Speaker 6: be bothered, and if you can when those nails pop up,

489
00:28:45,455 --> 00:28:47,735
Speaker 6: see if you can get a vice grip onto them

490
00:28:47,815 --> 00:28:50,295
Speaker 6: or something like that, pull them out and replace them

491
00:28:50,295 --> 00:28:55,095
Speaker 6: with a jolt screw that will have better purchase. And

492
00:28:55,175 --> 00:28:58,255
Speaker 6: as the screw goes down, it won't split the timber

493
00:28:58,255 --> 00:29:01,335
Speaker 6: because it's effectively drilling its way through. So there's a

494
00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:04,055
Speaker 6: couple of options for you there. Chris, I hope that

495
00:29:04,135 --> 00:29:07,295
Speaker 6: goes well for you as well. And Peter are very

496
00:29:07,295 --> 00:29:08,135
Speaker 6: good morning to you.

497
00:29:09,935 --> 00:29:10,895
Speaker 12: Oh good morning, Peter.

498
00:29:13,295 --> 00:29:15,375
Speaker 6: Can you hear me absolutely.

499
00:29:17,175 --> 00:29:22,695
Speaker 12: I'm looking at installing a louver system over a deck

500
00:29:22,975 --> 00:29:28,095
Speaker 12: in the back garden and there's a downpipe on the

501
00:29:28,135 --> 00:29:32,815
Speaker 12: wall which is in the way, and what has been

502
00:29:32,815 --> 00:29:35,935
Speaker 12: proposed is that the system, the back beam of the

503
00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:40,535
Speaker 12: system would move out about one thirty millimeters off the

504
00:29:40,615 --> 00:29:46,215
Speaker 12: wall and then the gap would be taken up with

505
00:29:46,255 --> 00:29:53,775
Speaker 12: a flashing. In terms of a flashing fitting in that

506
00:29:53,855 --> 00:29:57,175
Speaker 12: space between the back beam and the wall, and how

507
00:29:57,215 --> 00:30:01,935
Speaker 12: that flashes around the downpipe. The pictures I've seen, it

508
00:30:02,055 --> 00:30:05,855
Speaker 12: still appears. It appears that there's nothing sealing the flashing

509
00:30:05,935 --> 00:30:10,175
Speaker 12: to the the downpipe, so that the whole concept of

510
00:30:10,215 --> 00:30:14,575
Speaker 12: a being waterproof, yes, that doesn't seem to apply, because

511
00:30:14,615 --> 00:30:16,975
Speaker 12: there's water, no doubt it's going to get in there.

512
00:30:17,775 --> 00:30:21,615
Speaker 6: Quick question, roughly how long where where the veranda the

513
00:30:21,695 --> 00:30:25,975
Speaker 6: proposed louver roof rather attaches to the house. What's that

514
00:30:26,135 --> 00:30:27,135
Speaker 6: approximate length?

515
00:30:28,575 --> 00:30:33,535
Speaker 12: So it's that whole area is about five and a

516
00:30:33,615 --> 00:30:35,575
Speaker 12: half meters.

517
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:37,415
Speaker 6: Okay, and the down it.

518
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:39,415
Speaker 12: Goes out four meters from the roof.

519
00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:43,335
Speaker 6: So where the downpipe comes down, is that sort of

520
00:30:43,855 --> 00:30:46,415
Speaker 6: dead center of that five and a half meters Is

521
00:30:46,455 --> 00:30:48,175
Speaker 6: it quite close to one edge?

522
00:30:48,895 --> 00:30:50,815
Speaker 12: It is quite close to one end. It's about a

523
00:30:50,855 --> 00:30:53,535
Speaker 12: meter in from the left hand side edge.

524
00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:58,255
Speaker 6: And then where the downpipe comes down at ground level,

525
00:30:58,375 --> 00:31:00,295
Speaker 6: does it go through a deck or does it go

526
00:31:00,415 --> 00:31:01,255
Speaker 6: hard into the ground.

527
00:31:01,335 --> 00:31:04,975
Speaker 12: Yes, it goes through the deck into the grainy system

528
00:31:05,015 --> 00:31:05,615
Speaker 12: of the house.

529
00:31:06,375 --> 00:31:09,775
Speaker 6: Okay, underneath the deck. Could you get access to that?

530
00:31:14,215 --> 00:31:16,735
Speaker 12: You would, yeah, you would have to, you know, look

531
00:31:17,135 --> 00:31:20,375
Speaker 12: some of the sumbur to get access. But you could, yes,

532
00:31:20,895 --> 00:31:21,335
Speaker 12: But it's.

533
00:31:22,535 --> 00:31:24,895
Speaker 6: What I'm thinking is that, you know, it's it's a

534
00:31:24,935 --> 00:31:28,175
Speaker 6: lot of work to hold the louver system off the

535
00:31:28,215 --> 00:31:31,775
Speaker 6: house to prepare a flashing, Whereas if you worked with

536
00:31:31,815 --> 00:31:34,175
Speaker 6: a plumber or a drain layer, what you might find

537
00:31:34,255 --> 00:31:37,415
Speaker 6: is that you could simply disconnect that downpipe, build the

538
00:31:37,495 --> 00:31:40,775
Speaker 6: louver and then bring the downpipe down from the spouting

539
00:31:41,575 --> 00:31:44,615
Speaker 6: across the wall above the louver roof, run it down

540
00:31:44,695 --> 00:31:48,055
Speaker 6: parallel to the end of it, and reconnect it underneath that.

541
00:31:48,935 --> 00:31:51,815
Speaker 6: You know, it's not actually that much work if there's

542
00:31:51,895 --> 00:31:58,135
Speaker 6: good accessibility to just change the location of the downpipe,

543
00:31:57,815 --> 00:32:01,575
Speaker 6: so go round, go around it, rather than try and

544
00:32:01,615 --> 00:32:04,095
Speaker 6: go through it. Because in the end, once you've done

545
00:32:04,135 --> 00:32:06,855
Speaker 6: the louver, okay, you can flash the top. But then

546
00:32:06,895 --> 00:32:09,895
Speaker 6: when you're standing in that new sort of enclosed space,

547
00:32:09,975 --> 00:32:12,695
Speaker 6: which you the whole point of doing these things is

548
00:32:12,735 --> 00:32:15,295
Speaker 6: to try and make that feel like an outdoor room.

549
00:32:15,775 --> 00:32:18,735
Speaker 6: And then right there you've got a downpipe. So if

550
00:32:18,775 --> 00:32:22,255
Speaker 6: you were to move the downpipe, that might have talk

551
00:32:22,295 --> 00:32:25,575
Speaker 6: to your contractors, talk to a drain layer or a

552
00:32:25,655 --> 00:32:29,015
Speaker 6: plumber and just say can we do this, because you know,

553
00:32:29,055 --> 00:32:32,255
Speaker 6: you're moving at a meter and everything successible. It would

554
00:32:32,255 --> 00:32:34,175
Speaker 6: be different if it went into the ground or if

555
00:32:34,215 --> 00:32:36,895
Speaker 6: it was you know, if it was smack bang in

556
00:32:36,935 --> 00:32:39,375
Speaker 6: the middle, that might be not so easy. But a

557
00:32:39,455 --> 00:32:41,615
Speaker 6: meter from the edge, I think, just move it.

558
00:32:43,335 --> 00:32:49,775
Speaker 12: Yeah, so you'd still keep the same grainage connection areas

559
00:32:49,815 --> 00:32:52,775
Speaker 12: exactly the same. You're just moving the piping, that's right.

560
00:32:53,055 --> 00:32:55,415
Speaker 6: Yeah. And you know, because you've got the deck and

561
00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:58,455
Speaker 6: you've got some drainage fittings underneath there, you know where

562
00:32:58,455 --> 00:33:00,655
Speaker 6: there might be an elbow that would get cut off

563
00:33:00,695 --> 00:33:03,295
Speaker 6: and becomes an extension, then put a new elbow on it,

564
00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:08,775
Speaker 6: drop the down pipe into there. It's it's not difficult work,

565
00:33:09,415 --> 00:33:12,535
Speaker 6: and it sounds like a much more well, what I'm proposing,

566
00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:15,735
Speaker 6: hopefully is a lot more straightforward than making a flashing

567
00:33:15,855 --> 00:33:20,575
Speaker 6: trying to seal that penetration, having to suspend the louver

568
00:33:21,175 --> 00:33:24,215
Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty millimeters off the building, which means

569
00:33:24,255 --> 00:33:27,055
Speaker 6: extra brackets and so on and so forth. So I

570
00:33:27,055 --> 00:33:30,135
Speaker 6: think move for downpipe, looking.

571
00:33:29,935 --> 00:33:35,975
Speaker 12: At it as like a mounting bracket that and it

572
00:33:35,975 --> 00:33:39,495
Speaker 12: does seem like a long long way around to it.

573
00:33:40,015 --> 00:33:42,095
Speaker 6: It does, given that you know, moving a down pipe

574
00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:46,735
Speaker 6: generally pretty straightforward. So at that to talk to the

575
00:33:46,775 --> 00:33:47,575
Speaker 6: guys about that.

576
00:33:48,655 --> 00:33:51,855
Speaker 12: Yeah, so the concept of what they're proposing is you

577
00:33:51,975 --> 00:33:54,615
Speaker 12: can't actually steal a flashing.

578
00:33:55,495 --> 00:33:57,655
Speaker 6: You can what you can get, and it's similar to

579
00:33:57,695 --> 00:34:00,615
Speaker 6: if you do a penetration through a roof for example,

580
00:34:00,775 --> 00:34:03,455
Speaker 6: like for a vent or a terminal ducting or something

581
00:34:03,495 --> 00:34:08,455
Speaker 6: like that, you can get a seal that you do

582
00:34:08,575 --> 00:34:11,775
Speaker 6: a neat hole through the flashing that the downpipe runs through.

583
00:34:13,175 --> 00:34:16,255
Speaker 6: They'll still really need to disconnect the downpipe because what

584
00:34:16,295 --> 00:34:18,775
Speaker 6: you want to do is plot where it is, disconnect

585
00:34:18,815 --> 00:34:21,975
Speaker 6: the downpipe, cut a neat hole, bring the flashing up

586
00:34:22,015 --> 00:34:25,295
Speaker 6: through it, slide the coupling over the top, and then

587
00:34:25,415 --> 00:34:28,815
Speaker 6: seal that coupling to it. So it's a flexible sort

588
00:34:28,815 --> 00:34:31,935
Speaker 6: of what we'd call a witch's cap type thing that

589
00:34:31,975 --> 00:34:34,135
Speaker 6: you'd slide over the downpipe. That would give you a

590
00:34:34,255 --> 00:34:37,855
Speaker 6: weather tight seal through that the hole that you've cut

591
00:34:37,895 --> 00:34:40,735
Speaker 6: in the flashing. But again, you know, it's it feels

592
00:34:40,855 --> 00:34:44,535
Speaker 6: like it's a lot of work rather than simply moving

593
00:34:44,535 --> 00:34:45,295
Speaker 6: the downpipe.

594
00:34:46,135 --> 00:34:48,015
Speaker 12: Yes, because we're going to have to go into the

595
00:34:48,175 --> 00:34:52,255
Speaker 12: down pipe anyway to channel order, you have to cut.

596
00:34:52,055 --> 00:34:55,215
Speaker 6: The downpipe off or move it anyway, So that's what

597
00:34:55,295 --> 00:34:57,935
Speaker 6: I would suggest. That's that's that would be my approach, Peter.

598
00:34:58,495 --> 00:35:00,495
Speaker 6: I wish you all the very best for that and

599
00:35:00,855 --> 00:35:03,815
Speaker 6: this time of year. Those louver systems, I remember the

600
00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:06,655
Speaker 6: New Zealand louver ones that we installed a few years

601
00:35:07,415 --> 00:35:11,135
Speaker 6: fantastic for this time of year where it's obviously warm.

602
00:35:11,215 --> 00:35:14,895
Speaker 6: My understanding is, and you're still going to have those

603
00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:17,695
Speaker 6: in clement days or I think where they're going to

604
00:35:17,695 --> 00:35:20,575
Speaker 6: come into their own too is providing shade the fact

605
00:35:20,575 --> 00:35:23,775
Speaker 6: that they're open and you can adjust them for shade,

606
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:28,335
Speaker 6: so you know, morning sun great, afternoon sun overheating, have

607
00:35:28,415 --> 00:35:30,415
Speaker 6: a louver system that gives you a bit of shade.

608
00:35:30,415 --> 00:35:32,695
Speaker 6: I think there's a real benefit to them, right HEO,

609
00:35:32,855 --> 00:35:35,255
Speaker 6: it is six forty seven, we've got a break. Then

610
00:35:35,295 --> 00:35:37,335
Speaker 6: we'll take your calls. Then of course we've got New

611
00:35:37,415 --> 00:35:39,295
Speaker 6: Sport and we're the top of the hour at seven,

612
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:41,015
Speaker 6: coming up top of the hour.

613
00:35:41,775 --> 00:35:44,415
Speaker 1: Viewing other house, storting the garden, asks Pete for a

614
00:35:44,455 --> 00:35:48,695
Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter wolfcap call oh eight

615
00:35:48,815 --> 00:35:50,175
Speaker 1: ten eighty news dogs me.

616
00:35:51,495 --> 00:35:53,375
Speaker 6: So of course we've got News Sport and where the

617
00:35:53,415 --> 00:35:55,215
Speaker 6: top of the hour at seven o'clock still got time

618
00:35:55,215 --> 00:35:57,215
Speaker 6: for a quick call before then, if you'd call, oh,

619
00:35:57,295 --> 00:35:59,815
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, that's the number to call.

620
00:36:00,375 --> 00:36:02,215
Speaker 6: You can text as well a couple of good texts.

621
00:36:02,215 --> 00:36:05,935
Speaker 6: Actually morning or evening, Pete. We want to jib a

622
00:36:06,015 --> 00:36:09,535
Speaker 6: cup of rooms in a villa that is currently sarking

623
00:36:09,695 --> 00:36:14,455
Speaker 6: and scrim we can remove. Can we remove the scrim,

624
00:36:14,695 --> 00:36:18,655
Speaker 6: take off the skirting boards and trims and install or

625
00:36:18,695 --> 00:36:22,495
Speaker 6: plasterboard straight over the sarking. We'd like to then reuse

626
00:36:22,535 --> 00:36:25,295
Speaker 6: the skirtings and put them back on over the jib board.

627
00:36:26,415 --> 00:36:30,335
Speaker 6: Would you suggest standard or bracing plasterboard and with a

628
00:36:30,415 --> 00:36:34,095
Speaker 6: higher stud Is it recommended to run it horizontally or vertically.

629
00:36:34,415 --> 00:36:37,935
Speaker 6: Thank you from Catherine. Catherine. It brings back a lot

630
00:36:37,975 --> 00:36:41,375
Speaker 6: of memories, most of them actually quite happy of renovating

631
00:36:41,535 --> 00:36:45,535
Speaker 6: my own nineteen o five villa quite some years ago.

632
00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:49,975
Speaker 6: So I did exactly what you're proposing. Someone had already

633
00:36:50,335 --> 00:36:54,055
Speaker 6: removed the scrim, but they had added a thing that

634
00:36:54,135 --> 00:36:58,095
Speaker 6: I came to understand was called fakatani board. It was

635
00:36:58,215 --> 00:37:02,615
Speaker 6: like an NDF, almost more like cardboard, but a little

636
00:37:02,615 --> 00:37:05,055
Speaker 6: bit like NDF. It was about three and a half

637
00:37:05,175 --> 00:37:08,095
Speaker 6: mil thick and it was in. It must have been

638
00:37:08,215 --> 00:37:11,135
Speaker 6: like six by three sheets and that was nailed all

639
00:37:11,175 --> 00:37:14,215
Speaker 6: over and then they'd kind of stopped it and painted

640
00:37:14,295 --> 00:37:16,615
Speaker 6: or wallpapered over the top of that. Anyway that came

641
00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:20,415
Speaker 6: off the screw, which is the hessian that had been removed.

642
00:37:21,975 --> 00:37:25,495
Speaker 6: I then went and added insulation into the cavity. So

643
00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:28,175
Speaker 6: that's the big question, Catherine, if you were going to

644
00:37:28,255 --> 00:37:34,135
Speaker 6: introduce insulation into those exterior walls, that actually triggers a

645
00:37:34,175 --> 00:37:37,455
Speaker 6: requirement for a building consent. You can't do that work

646
00:37:37,535 --> 00:37:40,055
Speaker 6: undershed you one of the building Act if you don't

647
00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:43,255
Speaker 6: intend to insulate, and to be fair, I don't understand

648
00:37:43,255 --> 00:37:46,535
Speaker 6: why you wouldn't take the opportunity to insulate. Then yes,

649
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:50,015
Speaker 6: you can fix plaster board straight to the sarking. I

650
00:37:50,095 --> 00:37:53,095
Speaker 6: went through just with some jib screws or some plasterboard

651
00:37:53,095 --> 00:37:56,055
Speaker 6: screws and made sure that all of the sarking was

652
00:37:56,095 --> 00:38:00,175
Speaker 6: firmly fixed onto the studs, put a straight edge over it.

653
00:38:00,295 --> 00:38:04,015
Speaker 6: Any boards that have really cupped or twisted, maybe take

654
00:38:04,055 --> 00:38:08,295
Speaker 6: a plane to that and knock any high spots. Horizontal

655
00:38:08,335 --> 00:38:12,855
Speaker 6: fixing is great. I would often opt for thirteen mil

656
00:38:12,935 --> 00:38:16,895
Speaker 6: plasterboard in that situation. Just because it kind of finds

657
00:38:16,935 --> 00:38:20,055
Speaker 6: its own way over walls that are not going to

658
00:38:20,095 --> 00:38:23,975
Speaker 6: be particularly straight. And yes, I would always go for

659
00:38:24,055 --> 00:38:27,175
Speaker 6: horizontal fixing, either starting with a full sheet at the

660
00:38:27,175 --> 00:38:30,695
Speaker 6: bottom and working up just so that where you've got

661
00:38:30,735 --> 00:38:33,975
Speaker 6: your joins not at eye level. Depending on the stud

662
00:38:34,375 --> 00:38:36,855
Speaker 6: you may also be able to use wideline sheets of

663
00:38:36,895 --> 00:38:40,415
Speaker 6: plasterboard they're thirteen fifty rather than twelve hundred. That's an

664
00:38:40,415 --> 00:38:43,855
Speaker 6: option for you as well. And then the idea of

665
00:38:43,975 --> 00:38:47,935
Speaker 6: reusing your skirting boards. I'm delighted to hear you say that.

666
00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:51,575
Speaker 6: I didn't interview. Had a bit of a chat with

667
00:38:51,695 --> 00:38:55,615
Speaker 6: brands magazine or brands researchers and it'll be in the

668
00:38:55,615 --> 00:38:59,175
Speaker 6: brand's magazine a couple of weeks time talking about renovations.

669
00:38:59,255 --> 00:39:02,695
Speaker 6: And what I think is really important sometimes with renovations

670
00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:08,615
Speaker 6: is keeping the materiality of them, using existing architraves and

671
00:39:08,695 --> 00:39:11,975
Speaker 6: skirting boards and so on. They can be tricky to

672
00:39:12,055 --> 00:39:14,775
Speaker 6: take off. You may damage a couple here and there,

673
00:39:14,815 --> 00:39:19,175
Speaker 6: but they are repairable, right, So yeah, what you're doing

674
00:39:19,295 --> 00:39:21,815
Speaker 6: I think casin, like I say, brings back a lot

675
00:39:21,815 --> 00:39:25,615
Speaker 6: of happy memories and it's certainly doable. But please bear

676
00:39:25,615 --> 00:39:29,295
Speaker 6: in mind that if you do add insulation, it does

677
00:39:29,335 --> 00:39:33,815
Speaker 6: trigger the requirement for a building consent. I think that

678
00:39:34,055 --> 00:39:37,415
Speaker 6: should change, but right now those actually are the rules.

679
00:39:37,735 --> 00:39:40,095
Speaker 6: A couple of people have texted with regard to Ross,

680
00:39:40,135 --> 00:39:42,055
Speaker 6: who was talking about the five year old home that

681
00:39:42,095 --> 00:39:44,175
Speaker 6: he's got and the fact that he seems to have

682
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:47,455
Speaker 6: had an extraordinary number of leaks in the fittings for

683
00:39:47,495 --> 00:39:51,335
Speaker 6: the water maine. I really struggle to understand why you

684
00:39:51,335 --> 00:39:54,095
Speaker 6: would want to add junctions to a water main that

685
00:39:54,175 --> 00:39:58,575
Speaker 6: runs underneath the concrete driveway, because even the best ones

686
00:39:58,655 --> 00:40:01,655
Speaker 6: might fail at some stage. But as it failed, hey, peak,

687
00:40:01,695 --> 00:40:03,495
Speaker 6: that guy with the leaks under the driveway and so

688
00:40:03,535 --> 00:40:05,855
Speaker 6: many fittings, sounds like the main water pipe has been

689
00:40:05,935 --> 00:40:10,215
Speaker 6: damaged by the contractor, maybe while laying the driveway, so

690
00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:12,535
Speaker 6: don't put and then they don't put the fittings in

691
00:40:12,575 --> 00:40:15,175
Speaker 6: to cover up their stuff, and it's just not the

692
00:40:15,295 --> 00:40:18,415
Speaker 6: right fitting for the job. I you know, a contractor

693
00:40:18,495 --> 00:40:20,815
Speaker 6: might have damaged the water maine. He's cut it, put

694
00:40:20,815 --> 00:40:23,615
Speaker 6: a junction in to repair it, it's not quite the

695
00:40:23,695 --> 00:40:26,255
Speaker 6: right one, or he doesn't quite know what he's doing,

696
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:28,855
Speaker 6: and hey, look a couple of fast forward a few

697
00:40:28,895 --> 00:40:32,455
Speaker 6: years and you've got some problems with it. Someone else

698
00:40:32,495 --> 00:40:35,895
Speaker 6: has taxed through and suggested, you know, potentially thrusting a

699
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:39,495
Speaker 6: new water Maine to the house and then just deleting

700
00:40:39,655 --> 00:40:43,015
Speaker 6: the old one. And I think Lindz just or Catherines

701
00:40:43,095 --> 00:40:44,975
Speaker 6: just text me to say hey, thanks very much for

702
00:40:45,015 --> 00:40:48,775
Speaker 6: the description about doing the plaster board. Yep, that was

703
00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:52,055
Speaker 6: very helpful. A bit of skill in it actually, if

704
00:40:52,895 --> 00:40:56,455
Speaker 6: there are ways of doing it well, and certainly one

705
00:40:56,455 --> 00:41:00,175
Speaker 6: of those is horizontal, certainly using thirteen mill board, making

706
00:41:00,175 --> 00:41:03,735
Speaker 6: sure that the sarking board is well fixed back and

707
00:41:03,775 --> 00:41:07,135
Speaker 6: then you know, plenty of glue. Hold the boredom place.

708
00:41:07,455 --> 00:41:09,655
Speaker 6: You'll get a great job. Radio Wei got a little

709
00:41:09,655 --> 00:41:13,175
Speaker 6: bit of music to take us up to the news

710
00:41:13,215 --> 00:41:14,935
Speaker 6: top of the r then we'll be back straight after

711
00:41:14,975 --> 00:41:17,775
Speaker 6: the seven o'clock news. If you've got a question to ask,

712
00:41:17,895 --> 00:41:20,455
Speaker 6: call us now, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty back

713
00:41:20,455 --> 00:41:41,815
Speaker 6: after the news.

714
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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

715
00:41:44,815 --> 00:41:46,335
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall.

716
00:41:46,415 --> 00:41:47,455
Speaker 6: Give Peter wolf.

717
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:51,535
Speaker 1: Cap a call on eighty the resident builder on News

718
00:41:51,575 --> 00:41:52,535
Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

719
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Speaker 6: Radio Your News Talks B back for the second hour

720
00:41:56,215 --> 00:41:59,535
Speaker 6: of the show. It is six minutes almost seven minutes

721
00:41:59,575 --> 00:42:04,455
Speaker 6: after seven on a Sunday morning in New Zealand. As

722
00:42:04,495 --> 00:42:08,175
Speaker 6: I mentioned, that makes it a Saturday evening in the UK,

723
00:42:08,335 --> 00:42:11,295
Speaker 6: where I happened to be broadcasting from this morning. So

724
00:42:11,375 --> 00:42:14,815
Speaker 6: looking forward to your calls and your conversation, just following

725
00:42:14,855 --> 00:42:17,815
Speaker 6: on from that text that we had and my answer

726
00:42:17,855 --> 00:42:25,255
Speaker 6: around plasterboard and so on. Someone also said, hey, how

727
00:42:25,255 --> 00:42:28,895
Speaker 6: did you get insulation in behind the sarking and did

728
00:42:29,095 --> 00:42:32,415
Speaker 6: this press against the outside weatherboards. There's a couple of

729
00:42:32,415 --> 00:42:35,095
Speaker 6: solutions there. So in the end, what I ended up

730
00:42:35,095 --> 00:42:39,455
Speaker 6: doing is cutting a section of the sarking out so

731
00:42:39,535 --> 00:42:43,775
Speaker 6: that I could push insulation in and up and insulation

732
00:42:44,015 --> 00:42:47,575
Speaker 6: in and down, and then when I couldn't reach any further,

733
00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:51,375
Speaker 6: i'd go further up the gap between the two studs,

734
00:42:51,695 --> 00:42:55,015
Speaker 6: cut out another piece of sarking, push insulation down till

735
00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:58,015
Speaker 6: it met the top of the other piece of insulation,

736
00:42:58,575 --> 00:43:00,815
Speaker 6: and then push insulation up. And so I did that,

737
00:43:00,935 --> 00:43:02,895
Speaker 6: and so I ended up with a bit of a patchwork.

738
00:43:03,135 --> 00:43:06,615
Speaker 6: But I didn't want to remove all the sarking. I

739
00:43:06,615 --> 00:43:08,415
Speaker 6: guess one way of doing it is to remove the

740
00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:11,015
Speaker 6: sarking then put it back on again. The other thing

741
00:43:11,895 --> 00:43:15,135
Speaker 6: that I think is really important to do is because

742
00:43:15,175 --> 00:43:18,775
Speaker 6: typically old houses like that right up to the gosh,

743
00:43:18,895 --> 00:43:22,135
Speaker 6: nineteen sixties or so would have timber framing, They might

744
00:43:22,175 --> 00:43:25,055
Speaker 6: have weatherboards on the outside, they might have sarking or

745
00:43:25,055 --> 00:43:27,415
Speaker 6: plaster board on the inside, but there's no building rap.

746
00:43:27,895 --> 00:43:31,455
Speaker 6: So ideally what you want to do is to be

747
00:43:31,495 --> 00:43:35,255
Speaker 6: able to install some building rap, some building paper against

748
00:43:35,295 --> 00:43:38,655
Speaker 6: the back of the weatherboard, and then push your insulation

749
00:43:38,895 --> 00:43:42,655
Speaker 6: against that. So that's the best case scenario. Again, actually,

750
00:43:42,695 --> 00:43:45,855
Speaker 6: just thinking about it, there's some very good guides available

751
00:43:45,895 --> 00:43:49,095
Speaker 6: on the brand's website and through the various brands how

752
00:43:49,175 --> 00:43:52,895
Speaker 6: to guides that you can have a look at. So again,

753
00:43:53,295 --> 00:43:57,335
Speaker 6: it's worth doing well in order to get the right finish,

754
00:43:57,495 --> 00:44:00,295
Speaker 6: and it's I guess. The only other thing I'd add

755
00:44:00,335 --> 00:44:02,975
Speaker 6: in is that in some cases I opted to use,

756
00:44:04,175 --> 00:44:08,015
Speaker 6: in particular Autech green stuff because it's one hundred percent

757
00:44:08,055 --> 00:44:12,735
Speaker 6: pure polyester, which means that it doesn't absorb moisture. So

758
00:44:13,015 --> 00:44:15,775
Speaker 6: in those instances where it was impractical to try and

759
00:44:15,815 --> 00:44:18,415
Speaker 6: get some paper against the back of the weatherboard, I

760
00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:21,095
Speaker 6: use that type of insulation because if there was a

761
00:44:21,095 --> 00:44:25,335
Speaker 6: bit of moisture drawing through the weatherboard. At least it

762
00:44:25,335 --> 00:44:29,455
Speaker 6: wouldn't be absorbed by the insulation. So there's a little

763
00:44:29,455 --> 00:44:33,095
Speaker 6: bit more to it than you think about in the

764
00:44:33,135 --> 00:44:37,255
Speaker 6: first instance, but it's a really important part to getting warm, dry,

765
00:44:37,335 --> 00:44:40,295
Speaker 6: comfortable houses. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

766
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Speaker 6: number to call. Brian A very good morning to you.

767
00:44:44,735 --> 00:44:48,295
Speaker 6: I am good mate, I'm goods.

768
00:44:48,335 --> 00:44:52,215
Speaker 13: I'm just about that split in the galmanized tea junction

769
00:44:52,455 --> 00:44:55,655
Speaker 13: to tea. We also have a house about sixty seven

770
00:44:55,735 --> 00:45:01,055
Speaker 13: years old in one split inside our house like water cylinder.

771
00:45:01,735 --> 00:45:04,775
Speaker 6: Yes, so that's split, you know, whether.

772
00:45:04,735 --> 00:45:07,695
Speaker 13: So that there's a little trying to describe it. So

773
00:45:07,735 --> 00:45:10,775
Speaker 13: it's the long best where the tea can't butt into

774
00:45:10,815 --> 00:45:13,815
Speaker 13: that on that on that rounded joint there, and it

775
00:45:13,935 --> 00:45:18,855
Speaker 13: was just like a pin hole, a pin hole and

776
00:45:18,975 --> 00:45:21,335
Speaker 13: twenty more house. Obviously the bit of an impression.

777
00:45:21,695 --> 00:45:23,415
Speaker 6: It's a lot of water damage.

778
00:45:23,455 --> 00:45:24,215
Speaker 14: So it was like.

779
00:45:24,215 --> 00:45:27,535
Speaker 13: This was this you guys are talking about. Maybe the

780
00:45:27,575 --> 00:45:30,255
Speaker 13: plumber or an installer damaged their mine.

781
00:45:30,095 --> 00:45:30,415
Speaker 8: But this.

782
00:45:33,375 --> 00:45:35,895
Speaker 13: Six years six years old, they wouldn't have been there,

783
00:45:35,935 --> 00:45:40,775
Speaker 13: wouldn't have been damaged. So for me, it does might

784
00:45:40,775 --> 00:45:44,535
Speaker 13: have been holding or whatever. But the the idea of

785
00:45:44,615 --> 00:45:48,535
Speaker 13: plastic one. I guess they used the blue off by

786
00:45:48,615 --> 00:45:53,095
Speaker 13: surprise that people still musing Albanie blight from the don't know.

787
00:45:53,575 --> 00:45:57,695
Speaker 6: I don't think that they use GalF in this particular job.

788
00:45:57,855 --> 00:46:01,095
Speaker 6: I think it was that the fitting was damaged. And

789
00:46:01,135 --> 00:46:04,255
Speaker 6: I'm not even completely sure that he was talking about

790
00:46:04,335 --> 00:46:09,295
Speaker 6: let's say metal fitting, So I mean it's it would

791
00:46:09,295 --> 00:46:11,575
Speaker 6: be rare. I can't think of the well. I know

792
00:46:11,655 --> 00:46:14,055
Speaker 6: the last time that I saw galvanized water pipe, and

793
00:46:14,095 --> 00:46:15,895
Speaker 6: it was when I was ripping it out because it

794
00:46:15,975 --> 00:46:17,255
Speaker 6: had rusted and failed.

795
00:46:19,375 --> 00:46:23,895
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, share that with you.

796
00:46:24,215 --> 00:46:27,455
Speaker 6: Appreciate that that would be terribly frustrating to in a

797
00:46:27,455 --> 00:46:32,655
Speaker 6: five year old house to have modern plumbing fittings fail.

798
00:46:33,055 --> 00:46:37,655
Speaker 6: Did the plumber or main contractor or manufacturer distributor come

799
00:46:37,695 --> 00:46:40,175
Speaker 6: to the party and help out?

800
00:46:40,495 --> 00:46:44,775
Speaker 13: A dollar job? I don't even worry about it. Yeah, okay,

801
00:46:47,895 --> 00:46:49,895
Speaker 13: five could have done it myself.

802
00:46:49,935 --> 00:46:53,615
Speaker 6: But okay, so it was it was accessible, that's the

803
00:46:53,655 --> 00:47:01,855
Speaker 6: main thing. Fantastic. Cant your blessings there. Look out for

804
00:47:01,895 --> 00:47:05,015
Speaker 6: yourself on the road today. Safe travels, bran all the best,

805
00:47:05,255 --> 00:47:12,215
Speaker 6: take care of the driving things. Interesting. I did have

806
00:47:12,255 --> 00:47:18,615
Speaker 6: been driving here yesterday and with the growth to respect

807
00:47:18,655 --> 00:47:22,375
Speaker 6: to the English. I'm never complaining about New Zealand roads again. Right,

808
00:47:22,935 --> 00:47:26,695
Speaker 6: I'll just leave it at that. It was quite the

809
00:47:26,775 --> 00:47:30,215
Speaker 6: he raising event. Eight hundred eighty eighty is the number

810
00:47:30,215 --> 00:47:31,975
Speaker 6: to call. Paul A very good morning.

811
00:47:33,375 --> 00:47:34,855
Speaker 8: Oh good morning Pete.

812
00:47:35,215 --> 00:47:39,175
Speaker 15: Chris. Just going on from your.

813
00:47:40,615 --> 00:47:45,975
Speaker 16: Insulation that you did behind the sarking. Yeah, now, so

814
00:47:46,495 --> 00:47:49,415
Speaker 16: I've got an old posit that I'm thinking about taking

815
00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:54,215
Speaker 16: the weatherboards off. Some of them are rotten, right, and

816
00:47:55,335 --> 00:47:58,015
Speaker 16: I want to So once I take those weatherboards off

817
00:47:58,015 --> 00:48:03,055
Speaker 16: two walls, I'm wanting to put vats in there. But

818
00:48:03,135 --> 00:48:09,975
Speaker 16: you're saying that that needs a consent. Okay, yes, okay,

819
00:48:10,015 --> 00:48:15,255
Speaker 16: once I take the weather boards off of the sarking

820
00:48:15,335 --> 00:48:16,495
Speaker 16: behind the gym as well.

821
00:48:16,815 --> 00:48:19,015
Speaker 8: So so the.

822
00:48:18,895 --> 00:48:24,935
Speaker 16: Exterior framing won't have any knogs, okay, yes, because that's

823
00:48:24,975 --> 00:48:27,575
Speaker 16: how they built the houses back in the days. That's

824
00:48:27,615 --> 00:48:31,975
Speaker 16: why they use the sarking to actually brace brace they

825
00:48:32,095 --> 00:48:38,015
Speaker 16: the framing mont it yep. Yeah, So well I have

826
00:48:38,055 --> 00:48:41,895
Speaker 16: to put nogs in because when the when the Council

827
00:48:41,935 --> 00:48:44,495
Speaker 16: and Inspectac comes around to have a look at the bats,

828
00:48:45,175 --> 00:48:49,455
Speaker 16: is he going to want the builder too well? Won

829
00:48:50,015 --> 00:48:54,535
Speaker 16: put some bracing on that that exterior wall and two

830
00:48:54,575 --> 00:48:58,135
Speaker 16: puts the loggings in for the bats to sit in correctly,

831
00:48:58,175 --> 00:49:03,975
Speaker 16: because I can't understand how you were able to cut

832
00:49:04,055 --> 00:49:07,735
Speaker 16: out sections of the sarking from inside guide and just

833
00:49:08,055 --> 00:49:12,215
Speaker 16: poke your your insulation in. Like you said, how did

834
00:49:12,255 --> 00:49:17,975
Speaker 16: the how did that get inspected properly without the starking

835
00:49:18,055 --> 00:49:21,575
Speaker 16: being taken off completely? How did you get around the

836
00:49:21,655 --> 00:49:25,375
Speaker 16: inspector coming in and having a lot to see if

837
00:49:25,375 --> 00:49:29,335
Speaker 16: you're if you'd actually installed that insulation correctly?

838
00:49:31,215 --> 00:49:34,175
Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, I think you've got to remember this was

839
00:49:34,255 --> 00:49:37,215
Speaker 6: a long time ago, right, and and rules and regulations

840
00:49:37,215 --> 00:49:39,295
Speaker 6: have changed a bit. I mean, done this for a while,

841
00:49:39,455 --> 00:49:43,295
Speaker 6: so today it would poss And I'm thinking about your job,

842
00:49:44,215 --> 00:49:47,375
Speaker 6: you know, like I think if you're removing two elevations

843
00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:50,535
Speaker 6: of weather boards, that in itself would probably trigger the

844
00:49:50,575 --> 00:49:55,335
Speaker 6: requirement for a building consent. And yes, you do run

845
00:49:55,375 --> 00:49:59,375
Speaker 6: the risk of a bit of project creep, where let's say,

846
00:50:00,055 --> 00:50:03,975
Speaker 6: in order to comply with the building code, the designer

847
00:50:04,015 --> 00:50:06,655
Speaker 6: specifies the fact that you may need to contin newest

848
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:09,855
Speaker 6: bottom plate, in which case you're cutting out the all

849
00:50:09,855 --> 00:50:11,735
Speaker 6: of the studs and putting in a new bottom plate,

850
00:50:11,855 --> 00:50:15,335
Speaker 6: or you're fixing it all together with CP forty's or

851
00:50:15,695 --> 00:50:18,215
Speaker 6: you're having to put two rows of nogs through it.

852
00:50:21,615 --> 00:50:22,295
Speaker 15: Okay, so that.

853
00:50:24,335 --> 00:50:26,295
Speaker 6: Because there is part of me that just goes, you

854
00:50:26,335 --> 00:50:29,095
Speaker 6: know what, it's an old house. It's lasted this long.

855
00:50:29,495 --> 00:50:32,215
Speaker 6: If you pop the weather boards off, put some insulation,

856
00:50:32,335 --> 00:50:34,495
Speaker 6: and put some building paper around the outside, put the

857
00:50:34,495 --> 00:50:37,255
Speaker 6: weather boards back on, it would be what you had

858
00:50:37,295 --> 00:50:40,975
Speaker 6: before and it will last for the duration of the building. Right.

859
00:50:41,415 --> 00:50:45,335
Speaker 6: And making you go through and maybe do a continuous

860
00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,455
Speaker 6: bottom plate and the whole series of nogs and all

861
00:50:47,495 --> 00:50:50,655
Speaker 6: the rest of it seems to me unnecessary given that

862
00:50:50,655 --> 00:50:53,735
Speaker 6: the building has already performed okay, and it's it stood

863
00:50:53,815 --> 00:50:54,615
Speaker 6: up for this long.

864
00:50:58,295 --> 00:50:58,895
Speaker 8: Sorry if you go.

865
00:51:00,175 --> 00:51:03,455
Speaker 16: So, I was just wondering by taking off that weather

866
00:51:03,535 --> 00:51:11,015
Speaker 16: board thatch like Sparker a an inspect to come around

867
00:51:11,055 --> 00:51:14,015
Speaker 16: and say, Aniston, you've got to go and do those knots,

868
00:51:14,055 --> 00:51:18,695
Speaker 16: because my builder said, by taking off those weather boards,

869
00:51:18,735 --> 00:51:21,735
Speaker 16: I'm doing a like for like. So I don't really

870
00:51:21,735 --> 00:51:24,815
Speaker 16: need a conceptor I don't really need a consent to

871
00:51:24,895 --> 00:51:28,415
Speaker 16: actually do that. I can just replace those weather boards

872
00:51:28,415 --> 00:51:31,055
Speaker 16: of light for light. But once I put the once

873
00:51:31,095 --> 00:51:34,135
Speaker 16: I want to put the insulation in that starts a

874
00:51:34,175 --> 00:51:35,055
Speaker 16: new process.

875
00:51:35,295 --> 00:51:35,615
Speaker 17: That's that.

876
00:51:35,895 --> 00:51:38,215
Speaker 16: So they might come around and say, well, because you're

877
00:51:38,215 --> 00:51:40,615
Speaker 16: putting in that insallation, you've got to put new bracing

878
00:51:40,655 --> 00:51:43,895
Speaker 16: in a new node at could end.

879
00:51:44,575 --> 00:51:49,735
Speaker 6: I think the better pathway is for the builder or

880
00:51:49,775 --> 00:51:53,335
Speaker 6: yourself to go to council and ask for a dispensation. Right,

881
00:51:53,815 --> 00:51:56,775
Speaker 6: Explain to the local building inspector the nature of the work.

882
00:51:57,655 --> 00:52:02,015
Speaker 6: Explain that it's you know, I think because you're taking

883
00:52:02,015 --> 00:52:05,495
Speaker 6: an entire elevation of weather boards off, they probably look

884
00:52:05,535 --> 00:52:08,615
Speaker 6: at that as re cladding rather than repairs and maintenance.

885
00:52:08,855 --> 00:52:11,415
Speaker 6: And I would have some sympathy for that. But let's

886
00:52:11,415 --> 00:52:14,015
Speaker 6: say you say to them, actually, it is just repairs

887
00:52:14,015 --> 00:52:18,135
Speaker 6: and maintenance, which is what it actually which is what

888
00:52:18,215 --> 00:52:21,215
Speaker 6: it is. And then while I'm doing it, because I've

889
00:52:21,215 --> 00:52:24,735
Speaker 6: got opportunity to see the inside of the cavities, I'm

890
00:52:24,735 --> 00:52:26,775
Speaker 6: going to put some insulation in, I'm going to put

891
00:52:26,775 --> 00:52:29,295
Speaker 6: some building wrap. I'm going to put my weatherwards direct

892
00:52:29,295 --> 00:52:32,855
Speaker 6: fixed back onto the studs. Can I get a dispensation?

893
00:52:33,335 --> 00:52:36,015
Speaker 6: And they might say to you, absolutely, so go for

894
00:52:36,095 --> 00:52:36,895
Speaker 6: the dispensation.

895
00:52:37,375 --> 00:52:39,495
Speaker 16: All right, okay, thanks, get.

896
00:52:39,055 --> 00:52:41,535
Speaker 6: Something and writing all the best you Paul, hope it

897
00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:44,175
Speaker 6: all works out, well, I think we should take a break.

898
00:52:44,255 --> 00:52:46,375
Speaker 6: We'll do that, then we'll come back and talk to

899
00:52:46,495 --> 00:52:47,975
Speaker 6: Keith in just a moment.

900
00:52:48,935 --> 00:52:52,575
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor get the right advice from

901
00:52:52,615 --> 00:52:56,255
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on Youth talksb.

902
00:52:57,575 --> 00:53:01,095
Speaker 6: Right News TALKSB seven twenty Keith, A very good morning

903
00:53:01,135 --> 00:53:01,415
Speaker 6: to you.

904
00:53:02,495 --> 00:53:03,575
Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, thank you.

905
00:53:05,735 --> 00:53:06,215
Speaker 15: My question.

906
00:53:06,615 --> 00:53:12,895
Speaker 18: I've got a nineteen nineties interlockhorm with polystyrene cladding as such,

907
00:53:13,015 --> 00:53:17,615
Speaker 18: with a rendering over that it's attached, and it's on

908
00:53:17,735 --> 00:53:20,935
Speaker 18: of approximately four meter polls, so I've got very easy

909
00:53:20,975 --> 00:53:25,495
Speaker 18: access underneath, and just like the lockwood as the usual creeks. Yeah,

910
00:53:25,655 --> 00:53:28,695
Speaker 18: I'm just checking if I can get access to the

911
00:53:28,775 --> 00:53:33,095
Speaker 18: rods and the nuts that secure everything. How tape should

912
00:53:33,095 --> 00:53:33,855
Speaker 18: I take those?

913
00:53:36,895 --> 00:53:40,975
Speaker 6: Fantastic question, and just for people that are unsure about

914
00:53:41,015 --> 00:53:44,735
Speaker 6: how this works. So interlock homes, lockwood homes and so on,

915
00:53:45,415 --> 00:53:49,175
Speaker 6: solid pieces of timber their machine so that they come

916
00:53:49,215 --> 00:53:52,015
Speaker 6: effectively with like a tongue in groove. They're like really

917
00:53:52,135 --> 00:53:54,935
Speaker 6: chunky tongue in groove. And then what they do is

918
00:53:54,975 --> 00:53:57,495
Speaker 6: they put a tie rod from the top plate or

919
00:53:57,535 --> 00:53:59,975
Speaker 6: from the top board to the bottom one, and once

920
00:53:59,975 --> 00:54:02,375
Speaker 6: they've all been stacked up, they put the rod through,

921
00:54:02,735 --> 00:54:04,935
Speaker 6: put a washer and a nut on the top of

922
00:54:04,975 --> 00:54:07,855
Speaker 6: the bottom, and tie in the building up. That's what

923
00:54:08,015 --> 00:54:11,095
Speaker 6: gives it its strength. But you can imagine that in

924
00:54:11,615 --> 00:54:15,655
Speaker 6: what thirty forty years, the timbers dried out, everything shrunk

925
00:54:15,695 --> 00:54:18,175
Speaker 6: a little bit, and those rods will be loose and

926
00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:20,295
Speaker 6: you'll get a little bit of movement. Now, I presume

927
00:54:20,295 --> 00:54:24,455
Speaker 6: that that's what's happening. Look, I think in the first instance,

928
00:54:24,575 --> 00:54:28,255
Speaker 6: I would probably actually go back to Interlock and ask

929
00:54:28,295 --> 00:54:31,975
Speaker 6: them whether they actually have like a reading a certain

930
00:54:32,015 --> 00:54:34,495
Speaker 6: number of newton meters on a talk wrench that you

931
00:54:34,535 --> 00:54:37,295
Speaker 6: would do, or whether they would just say, just nip

932
00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:40,935
Speaker 6: them up until they're tight, and whether you judge that

933
00:54:41,055 --> 00:54:43,575
Speaker 6: yourself in terms of you know, it'll be what a

934
00:54:43,655 --> 00:54:46,415
Speaker 6: twenty two million nut or something like that, it'll be

935
00:54:46,455 --> 00:54:48,975
Speaker 6: a decent sized nut. You know, if you've got a

936
00:54:49,015 --> 00:54:52,815
Speaker 6: reasonably long bar on your socket set and you feel

937
00:54:52,855 --> 00:54:56,815
Speaker 6: that you've given that a really good tweak, you know,

938
00:54:57,255 --> 00:55:00,775
Speaker 6: maybe it's just a kind of an intuition, this feels

939
00:55:00,815 --> 00:55:04,695
Speaker 6: about right, or possibly there is a specific this many

940
00:55:04,735 --> 00:55:05,455
Speaker 6: newton meters.

941
00:55:06,815 --> 00:55:10,055
Speaker 18: Okay, so let's just go back to them a couple check.

942
00:55:09,975 --> 00:55:16,535
Speaker 6: Otherwise, Yeah, I think so. But otherwise it'll be really

943
00:55:16,535 --> 00:55:20,055
Speaker 6: interesting too to see how many of them are still

944
00:55:20,175 --> 00:55:22,215
Speaker 6: able to be tightened, you know, in the in the

945
00:55:22,255 --> 00:55:27,255
Speaker 6: sense that nuts and you know, rusters is pretty prevalent

946
00:55:27,255 --> 00:55:30,655
Speaker 6: to New Zealand, whether or not some of them have

947
00:55:30,735 --> 00:55:33,255
Speaker 6: seized up to the point that you couldn't move them.

948
00:55:33,655 --> 00:55:35,175
Speaker 6: Have you tried any so far?

949
00:55:36,135 --> 00:55:36,735
Speaker 8: I haven't tried.

950
00:55:36,775 --> 00:55:38,695
Speaker 18: I've been underneath them, had a look seeing if it's

951
00:55:39,375 --> 00:55:44,495
Speaker 18: it's easy to get underneath. A couple definitely have loose washers.

952
00:55:44,535 --> 00:55:47,135
Speaker 18: I can just spin the washers. Oh wow, a couple

953
00:55:47,535 --> 00:55:50,135
Speaker 18: and a couple look rusty. So I was going to

954
00:55:50,135 --> 00:55:53,455
Speaker 18: spray them with CRC first, Yeah, for maybe a week

955
00:55:53,575 --> 00:55:57,695
Speaker 18: and let them just soak so less of anything sharing.

956
00:55:58,775 --> 00:56:00,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah it was great.

957
00:56:00,975 --> 00:56:02,015
Speaker 18: Do I just tighten them up?

958
00:56:02,055 --> 00:56:02,255
Speaker 7: I do?

959
00:56:02,295 --> 00:56:05,895
Speaker 18: I need to use some set quirk. I mean, the

960
00:56:05,895 --> 00:56:10,775
Speaker 18: house is probably very quaky first thing in the morning, right,

961
00:56:10,855 --> 00:56:15,335
Speaker 18: so the whole thing play with out aver the joy,

962
00:56:17,255 --> 00:56:18,735
Speaker 18: which I suppose you've got to expect.

963
00:56:19,615 --> 00:56:24,575
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. For what it's worth, ce

964
00:56:24,775 --> 00:56:27,215
Speaker 6: Us is really good. There's also I think they make

965
00:56:27,255 --> 00:56:32,615
Speaker 6: another product called penetrol or patron that I've found has

966
00:56:32,655 --> 00:56:36,095
Speaker 6: been really really good at just freeing up loose nuts

967
00:56:36,135 --> 00:56:38,975
Speaker 6: and that sort of thing. So I tend to have

968
00:56:39,015 --> 00:56:41,655
Speaker 6: a whole range of these little canisters on the on

969
00:56:41,695 --> 00:56:47,335
Speaker 6: the workbench. But the penetrol works really really well. Also,

970
00:56:48,575 --> 00:56:51,135
Speaker 6: enjoy it sounds a great job, all right, nice to

971
00:56:51,215 --> 00:56:55,895
Speaker 6: check take care. Actually that does sound like a really

972
00:56:56,015 --> 00:56:58,495
Speaker 6: fun We can jobs like that be fun? Yeah, I

973
00:56:58,495 --> 00:57:01,655
Speaker 6: think so, Nick. Good morning, Good morning.

974
00:57:02,335 --> 00:57:05,375
Speaker 17: I'm a border, I'm a boorder. I've DoD a lot

975
00:57:05,375 --> 00:57:08,895
Speaker 17: of work on around ONTs, some being grayed and things

976
00:57:08,895 --> 00:57:11,575
Speaker 17: like that. What happened with those old houses was they

977
00:57:11,575 --> 00:57:16,375
Speaker 17: didn't have very effective foundations right from the start, and

978
00:57:16,455 --> 00:57:21,095
Speaker 17: often the old houses were maintained through the fifties and

979
00:57:21,135 --> 00:57:24,855
Speaker 17: sixties because they were they were in the slum kind

980
00:57:24,895 --> 00:57:29,815
Speaker 17: of thing, and the spouting fell off, and then all

981
00:57:29,815 --> 00:57:33,015
Speaker 17: the water all the ground around the houses became soft,

982
00:57:33,895 --> 00:57:38,815
Speaker 17: and the houses spunk on the outside and stayed up high,

983
00:57:38,895 --> 00:57:42,095
Speaker 17: and the dry underneath and around the chimneys, so the

984
00:57:42,095 --> 00:57:45,855
Speaker 17: whole houses kind of stagged. And then people came along

985
00:57:45,895 --> 00:57:49,895
Speaker 17: in the seventies and thought, I'll renovate my villa, and

986
00:57:49,935 --> 00:57:52,855
Speaker 17: they put jib board all over the walls. And what

987
00:57:52,895 --> 00:57:55,735
Speaker 17: they did was actually the house had sunk and it

988
00:57:55,775 --> 00:57:58,615
Speaker 17: became when you put the jib board on, you're actually

989
00:57:58,695 --> 00:58:00,375
Speaker 17: lining a parallelogram.

990
00:58:01,535 --> 00:58:02,375
Speaker 13: And then later on.

991
00:58:03,775 --> 00:58:05,655
Speaker 17: So then you can't paint it after the dig woods

992
00:58:06,335 --> 00:58:09,455
Speaker 17: be done. And then people come along later and they go,

993
00:58:09,495 --> 00:58:12,735
Speaker 17: I'm going to be going upstairs, and they the border

994
00:58:12,735 --> 00:58:15,335
Speaker 17: who does upstairs takes it all up to be level,

995
00:58:16,255 --> 00:58:17,535
Speaker 17: and then later on they want to come and to

996
00:58:17,535 --> 00:58:20,135
Speaker 17: come and do something else, and then they want to

997
00:58:20,175 --> 00:58:22,055
Speaker 17: put a kitchen them and they find that the floor

998
00:58:22,095 --> 00:58:24,655
Speaker 17: is seventy more out of out of level or something

999
00:58:24,695 --> 00:58:28,215
Speaker 17: like that, and then go the bolder pays you need

1000
00:58:28,215 --> 00:58:31,295
Speaker 17: to relevel your house, and the level has come in

1001
00:58:32,215 --> 00:58:35,215
Speaker 17: and the whole house doll stays with it's all got

1002
00:58:35,295 --> 00:58:39,015
Speaker 17: parallelograms everywhere and you can't level it anymore. So the

1003
00:58:39,055 --> 00:58:40,855
Speaker 17: first thing before you put your board up is you

1004
00:58:40,895 --> 00:58:45,575
Speaker 17: need to get the floor level because because there's no

1005
00:58:45,615 --> 00:58:50,095
Speaker 17: bracing in the odd brothers. So before you do that,

1006
00:58:50,135 --> 00:58:52,895
Speaker 17: you put the bathing on. The best way to put

1007
00:58:52,935 --> 00:58:56,615
Speaker 17: the so after you've leveled it, then the best way

1008
00:58:56,655 --> 00:59:00,335
Speaker 17: is to take all the cycling off put paper and

1009
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:04,255
Speaker 17: as someone dead between the studs and around the sides

1010
00:59:04,295 --> 00:59:09,175
Speaker 17: of it then and today that's and then the board horizontally.

1011
00:59:10,095 --> 00:59:13,735
Speaker 17: But if you're putting the board onto the sacking, you

1012
00:59:13,855 --> 00:59:16,175
Speaker 17: better to put the board vertically because the sarking is

1013
00:59:16,295 --> 00:59:19,735
Speaker 17: there is some thickness between ten and twelve miles. So

1014
00:59:19,775 --> 00:59:24,135
Speaker 17: if you go horizontally where the joiners, one seat might

1015
00:59:24,175 --> 00:59:28,135
Speaker 17: be going be back from the yeah, above it, so

1016
00:59:28,215 --> 00:59:29,815
Speaker 17: you better and it's going to be straight us going

1017
00:59:29,815 --> 00:59:32,935
Speaker 17: aside going horizontally over the sacking.

1018
00:59:35,415 --> 00:59:39,055
Speaker 6: I would always prefer to go horizontal. It's always been

1019
00:59:39,095 --> 00:59:42,775
Speaker 6: my preference new builds and renovations, so I'd stick with that.

1020
00:59:43,535 --> 00:59:45,695
Speaker 6: And I look, I hear what you're saying, and there's

1021
00:59:45,735 --> 00:59:48,815
Speaker 6: some tremendous knowledge and what you've said there there. I mean,

1022
00:59:48,895 --> 00:59:52,495
Speaker 6: I found that most houses, if they did get lined,

1023
00:59:52,735 --> 00:59:57,255
Speaker 6: even when they're all but wonky. You know, there's a

1024
00:59:57,295 --> 01:00:00,775
Speaker 6: couple of twenty ton jacks tend to overwhelm any bits

1025
01:00:00,815 --> 01:00:03,775
Speaker 6: of plaster board, so it will all crack and you'll

1026
01:00:03,775 --> 01:00:05,615
Speaker 6: need to restop it or you need to pull the

1027
01:00:05,655 --> 01:00:08,175
Speaker 6: lining off, and you do it. But you're absolutely right.

1028
01:00:08,215 --> 01:00:10,575
Speaker 6: And I've got another project coming up in the new

1029
01:00:10,655 --> 01:00:14,815
Speaker 6: year where while there's work to do on an older house.

1030
01:00:15,855 --> 01:00:18,495
Speaker 6: I don't want anyone to do anything until we've re

1031
01:00:18,695 --> 01:00:22,775
Speaker 6: leveled it, right, because exactly as per your comment there, Nick,

1032
01:00:23,135 --> 01:00:26,015
Speaker 6: in this instance, the bathroom probably from the door to

1033
01:00:26,095 --> 01:00:30,335
Speaker 6: the side wall falls sixty to seventy mil by my guess,

1034
01:00:30,615 --> 01:00:33,455
Speaker 6: and a cross probably falls another thirty or forty mils.

1035
01:00:33,535 --> 01:00:35,455
Speaker 6: So you don't want to be going in there doing

1036
01:00:35,495 --> 01:00:37,375
Speaker 6: you tiling and all the rest of it before the

1037
01:00:37,415 --> 01:00:42,175
Speaker 6: floor gets leveled. So, as per the comment about the lining,

1038
01:00:42,815 --> 01:00:45,615
Speaker 6: sucking and so on, if you've got an old house,

1039
01:00:46,295 --> 01:00:50,335
Speaker 6: I know it's can be a little bit challenging to go.

1040
01:00:50,615 --> 01:00:53,335
Speaker 6: Is it worth tipping the money into repiling? No one's

1041
01:00:53,375 --> 01:00:56,375
Speaker 6: ever regretted it because it makes such a massive difference

1042
01:00:56,415 --> 01:00:58,615
Speaker 6: to the house later on. I appreciate the call, Nick,

1043
01:00:58,735 --> 01:01:01,135
Speaker 6: really do Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1044
01:01:01,135 --> 01:01:03,295
Speaker 6: that I'm going to call Pete a very good morning

1045
01:01:03,295 --> 01:01:08,415
Speaker 6: to you. I'm sorry, mate, Just stay there, Peek. I've

1046
01:01:08,415 --> 01:01:11,255
Speaker 6: just got to cool button. There you go, gotcha, gotcha?

1047
01:01:11,295 --> 01:01:12,095
Speaker 6: How are you doing, Pepe?

1048
01:01:13,015 --> 01:01:13,495
Speaker 2: They're good.

1049
01:01:13,575 --> 01:01:16,255
Speaker 10: I'm looking at this house. It's got the monolithic plastic

1050
01:01:16,255 --> 01:01:20,295
Speaker 10: cleaning on it, yes, and above the windows it's got

1051
01:01:20,295 --> 01:01:26,575
Speaker 10: those hairline cracks. I'm looking at it's to buy. Maybe

1052
01:01:26,735 --> 01:01:30,135
Speaker 10: what's the story worth that? Someone say, you've got to

1053
01:01:30,175 --> 01:01:33,815
Speaker 10: get an inspection done on it before the affairs any

1054
01:01:34,255 --> 01:01:38,335
Speaker 10: moisture and behind those the walls.

1055
01:01:39,535 --> 01:01:42,535
Speaker 6: Okay, this again, this is one of those things, is

1056
01:01:42,615 --> 01:01:46,495
Speaker 6: quite a bit to it. So because what's happened is

1057
01:01:46,495 --> 01:01:50,455
Speaker 6: we've tended to lump monolithic cladding into one basket, right,

1058
01:01:51,095 --> 01:01:54,415
Speaker 6: but it's not. There is lots of different types of

1059
01:01:54,455 --> 01:01:58,375
Speaker 6: things that are monolithic and that look monolithic, but they

1060
01:01:58,455 --> 01:02:01,735
Speaker 6: might perform differently. So what you'd want to do is

1061
01:02:02,095 --> 01:02:03,735
Speaker 6: roughly when was the house built?

1062
01:02:05,135 --> 01:02:08,655
Speaker 10: Yearly two thousands. Basically what I watched it getting built

1063
01:02:08,775 --> 01:02:12,815
Speaker 10: was no money, basically what it was. I was happy

1064
01:02:12,895 --> 01:02:15,455
Speaker 10: if they put plaster on the I'm not too sure.

1065
01:02:15,735 --> 01:02:18,295
Speaker 10: I can't read call quietly now they call it the kevity.

1066
01:02:18,335 --> 01:02:19,175
Speaker 2: You're not too sure.

1067
01:02:20,375 --> 01:02:23,175
Speaker 10: They put fiber light on it, and then you put

1068
01:02:23,175 --> 01:02:25,455
Speaker 10: the paper on it as well. Then I think he

1069
01:02:25,535 --> 01:02:28,055
Speaker 10: put the fiber light on it and then he sprayed

1070
01:02:28,055 --> 01:02:31,575
Speaker 10: it texture on it above those windows. Now that's weird.

1071
01:02:31,615 --> 01:02:33,975
Speaker 10: And they got two or three line sea line correct,

1072
01:02:34,015 --> 01:02:36,095
Speaker 10: And some people they won't touch like as a barge

1073
01:02:36,135 --> 01:02:38,015
Speaker 10: while because they leaking syndrome phrase.

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01:02:38,855 --> 01:02:41,975
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, the whole thing is like, I've

1075
01:02:42,015 --> 01:02:44,615
Speaker 6: never been one to go look just because it's monolithic

1076
01:02:44,695 --> 01:02:46,575
Speaker 6: means that it's a leaker, right, It's a lot more

1077
01:02:46,575 --> 01:02:50,175
Speaker 6: complex than that. So from what you're describing, and I'm

1078
01:02:50,615 --> 01:02:52,615
Speaker 6: you know, I haven't seen the house, so don't take

1079
01:02:52,655 --> 01:02:56,975
Speaker 6: this as uh, you know, gospel that the house isn't

1080
01:02:57,015 --> 01:02:59,695
Speaker 6: going to cause your problems. I'm just saying that if

1081
01:02:59,695 --> 01:03:02,735
Speaker 6: you've got something late two thousands was or early two

1082
01:03:02,775 --> 01:03:04,855
Speaker 6: thousands was still a little bit of a problem time.

1083
01:03:05,295 --> 01:03:08,255
Speaker 6: But if it's building wrap, if it's got a cavity,

1084
01:03:08,655 --> 01:03:12,815
Speaker 6: if it's got a reasonable system where you can see

1085
01:03:12,855 --> 01:03:17,015
Speaker 6: how they've detailed flashings at complex junctions like to windows

1086
01:03:17,055 --> 01:03:20,295
Speaker 6: and so on, if it's got some eves, if it's

1087
01:03:20,375 --> 01:03:24,775
Speaker 6: single story, those sorts of things tend to mitigate the risk.

1088
01:03:25,695 --> 01:03:28,895
Speaker 6: Whereas you know, go back a couple of years earlier

1089
01:03:28,935 --> 01:03:32,135
Speaker 6: than that, we had timber frames, direct fixed five er

1090
01:03:32,175 --> 01:03:34,855
Speaker 6: cement sheet with a spray coating over the top, with

1091
01:03:34,935 --> 01:03:38,455
Speaker 6: no eves, with no flashing detail around the windows. Those

1092
01:03:38,495 --> 01:03:42,655
Speaker 6: things caused a lot of problems. In this instance, though,

1093
01:03:43,255 --> 01:03:45,735
Speaker 6: can I ask a personal question, Do you need a

1094
01:03:45,735 --> 01:03:46,935
Speaker 6: mortgage for this property?

1095
01:03:48,255 --> 01:03:48,495
Speaker 4: Yes?

1096
01:03:48,655 --> 01:03:52,895
Speaker 6: I do, Okay, I think it's fair to say that

1097
01:03:53,055 --> 01:03:57,975
Speaker 6: many banks, and I guess many insurers are very very

1098
01:03:58,015 --> 01:04:02,695
Speaker 6: reluctant to without good evidence to say it's not going

1099
01:04:02,735 --> 01:04:05,895
Speaker 6: to be a problem. My understanding is that a lot

1100
01:04:05,935 --> 01:04:08,015
Speaker 6: of people that I know or know of have had

1101
01:04:08,055 --> 01:04:13,575
Speaker 6: trouble lending based on that, some of which is justifiable,

1102
01:04:13,615 --> 01:04:15,575
Speaker 6: some of which I think is a little bit too

1103
01:04:15,695 --> 01:04:19,095
Speaker 6: risk averse. So what you might find is you're going

1104
01:04:19,135 --> 01:04:23,375
Speaker 6: to need to get a professional pre purchase inspection done.

1105
01:04:23,615 --> 01:04:26,815
Speaker 6: You need to get someone who's got some qualifications in that.

1106
01:04:28,135 --> 01:04:31,815
Speaker 6: If they say to you the houses in reasonable condition,

1107
01:04:32,095 --> 01:04:35,535
Speaker 6: or it might have some small maintenance jobs to do,

1108
01:04:35,695 --> 01:04:40,055
Speaker 6: but in general it's weather tight, then that should be

1109
01:04:40,095 --> 01:04:43,895
Speaker 6: accepted by the banks. To be fair, I've probably heard

1110
01:04:43,895 --> 01:04:48,215
Speaker 6: of situations where banks or insurers have said, regardless of

1111
01:04:48,415 --> 01:04:52,895
Speaker 6: the report, we're still not prepared to lend on it.

1112
01:04:53,175 --> 01:04:55,735
Speaker 6: So you probably have to have a fairly open conversation

1113
01:04:55,935 --> 01:05:00,455
Speaker 6: with your bank or your insurer before you go too

1114
01:05:00,495 --> 01:05:02,815
Speaker 6: far down this track, because they might just say we're

1115
01:05:02,855 --> 01:05:06,695
Speaker 6: not interested. And that's not uncommon these days. Think in

1116
01:05:06,695 --> 01:05:09,695
Speaker 6: some cases it's unfair. But that doesn't mean that it's

1117
01:05:09,695 --> 01:05:10,255
Speaker 6: not happening.

1118
01:05:11,415 --> 01:05:15,735
Speaker 10: It's got it's got eaves on it, a tone of concrete. Ye,

1119
01:05:18,055 --> 01:05:22,935
Speaker 10: what's what's that single story it is? Yeah, that's quite

1120
01:05:23,255 --> 01:05:25,975
Speaker 10: just up the windows. The rest of the house is fine.

1121
01:05:26,015 --> 01:05:30,175
Speaker 10: It's just above basically the bay window and three windows

1122
01:05:30,215 --> 01:05:32,015
Speaker 10: at the back of the master room and they tore

1123
01:05:32,095 --> 01:05:34,575
Speaker 10: it's just it's only about three hundred mill spare me

1124
01:05:34,655 --> 01:05:36,495
Speaker 10: tree in the early windows in the.

1125
01:05:38,095 --> 01:05:40,855
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you look at the top of the

1126
01:05:40,935 --> 01:05:43,695
Speaker 6: window there's a very clear head flashing that you can

1127
01:05:43,775 --> 01:05:44,215
Speaker 6: see there.

1128
01:05:46,775 --> 01:05:49,295
Speaker 10: And the windows are gone. And like say, inside that

1129
01:05:49,615 --> 01:05:54,495
Speaker 10: inside that clanning, they just focus, they do, and they remember,

1130
01:05:54,535 --> 01:05:55,935
Speaker 10: they do, and they put all the paper around he

1131
01:05:56,015 --> 01:05:57,855
Speaker 10: made it was quite happy put all the all that

1132
01:05:58,655 --> 01:06:01,895
Speaker 10: that paper around the windows. You see that off actually

1133
01:06:02,215 --> 01:06:04,135
Speaker 10: that you ever seen the job at the time. It's

1134
01:06:04,175 --> 01:06:07,095
Speaker 10: quite happy what he did. But now is cracked above

1135
01:06:07,135 --> 01:06:11,015
Speaker 10: the windows. And but one guy said, oh, you can't

1136
01:06:11,055 --> 01:06:14,375
Speaker 10: really test it with the They do the thermal testing.

1137
01:06:14,495 --> 01:06:16,815
Speaker 10: But the only way where you can find out where

1138
01:06:16,815 --> 01:06:19,455
Speaker 10: that water's gone. And the strange thing about it, instead

1139
01:06:19,455 --> 01:06:22,415
Speaker 10: of putting silicon, they never did. So those headline cracks.

1140
01:06:23,015 --> 01:06:24,895
Speaker 10: They haven't done nothing to them for the water. You know,

1141
01:06:25,015 --> 01:06:29,015
Speaker 10: water's water, And I'm just wondering. It's the only way

1142
01:06:29,055 --> 01:06:30,855
Speaker 10: that they can do a thermal test, and where there's

1143
01:06:30,855 --> 01:06:33,895
Speaker 10: a moisture test, they can do that, but they still can't.

1144
01:06:33,935 --> 01:06:35,335
Speaker 10: The only way they can do it, they've got to

1145
01:06:35,415 --> 01:06:38,775
Speaker 10: draw holes inside the inside the house or the outside

1146
01:06:39,055 --> 01:06:41,215
Speaker 10: and put a camera in then find out on the

1147
01:06:41,615 --> 01:06:43,775
Speaker 10: on the framing where there's actually rotten the framing.

1148
01:06:46,175 --> 01:06:48,975
Speaker 6: It's probably I mean, yes, that's true. I don't know

1149
01:06:49,055 --> 01:06:51,095
Speaker 6: that you need to necessarily go to that extent. I

1150
01:06:51,175 --> 01:06:54,775
Speaker 6: think that if you did some thermal imaging by someone

1151
01:06:54,855 --> 01:06:57,615
Speaker 6: who knows what they're doing, that's the important thing. On

1152
01:06:57,735 --> 01:07:00,135
Speaker 6: the inside, if you took some moisture readings and you

1153
01:07:00,215 --> 01:07:03,495
Speaker 6: didn't get some exceptionally high moisture readings in that area,

1154
01:07:03,815 --> 01:07:06,055
Speaker 6: and you did some thermal imaging and that didn't sharp

1155
01:07:06,095 --> 01:07:09,615
Speaker 6: any anomalies, and if there's a couple of small cracks

1156
01:07:09,655 --> 01:07:11,975
Speaker 6: on the outside and maybe it hasn't been painted for

1157
01:07:12,055 --> 01:07:16,335
Speaker 6: ten years something like that, it's it's adding all of

1158
01:07:16,415 --> 01:07:19,735
Speaker 6: those components together and then making a risk assessment from there.

1159
01:07:20,175 --> 01:07:24,055
Speaker 6: But you know, we could talk about it for you

1160
01:07:24,135 --> 01:07:27,015
Speaker 6: know as much as you like, and I'm happy to

1161
01:07:27,055 --> 01:07:29,375
Speaker 6: do that. But I think in the end what you

1162
01:07:29,455 --> 01:07:31,975
Speaker 6: might find is that your bank or your insurer is

1163
01:07:32,055 --> 01:07:34,015
Speaker 6: reluctant to end on that, so you need to talk

1164
01:07:34,055 --> 01:07:36,015
Speaker 6: to them. My advice would be to talk to them

1165
01:07:36,055 --> 01:07:37,695
Speaker 6: pretty early on before you go.

1166
01:07:39,975 --> 01:07:43,695
Speaker 10: You'd be happy if that came out that was all right, sorry,

1167
01:07:43,895 --> 01:07:48,455
Speaker 10: If the with the thermal moisture testing they were happy

1168
01:07:48,495 --> 01:07:51,255
Speaker 10: with that, there's nothing came up as on their way.

1169
01:07:51,255 --> 01:07:53,815
Speaker 10: If they say is bad, they're happy with that film

1170
01:07:53,895 --> 01:07:54,815
Speaker 10: or testing.

1171
01:07:55,335 --> 01:07:58,295
Speaker 6: I think that yeah, a combination of two things. So

1172
01:07:58,415 --> 01:08:01,575
Speaker 6: you could do some visual like thermal imaging of the

1173
01:08:01,655 --> 01:08:04,495
Speaker 6: building to see whether or not there's some anomalies there,

1174
01:08:05,015 --> 01:08:07,855
Speaker 6: and then do some moisture read around the jam liner,

1175
01:08:07,975 --> 01:08:10,455
Speaker 6: around the window, around the top of the window, and

1176
01:08:10,575 --> 01:08:15,175
Speaker 6: again if those readings don't very dramatically from somewhere else

1177
01:08:15,255 --> 01:08:17,175
Speaker 6: that you know. Often if you go the middle of

1178
01:08:17,255 --> 01:08:19,855
Speaker 6: the wall where it's just flat cladding on the outside,

1179
01:08:20,215 --> 01:08:23,015
Speaker 6: you take a data point there and then you find

1180
01:08:23,055 --> 01:08:25,135
Speaker 6: that you're within a couple of points when you're at

1181
01:08:25,175 --> 01:08:27,975
Speaker 6: the window, then you could you could make the assumption

1182
01:08:28,095 --> 01:08:30,015
Speaker 6: it's probably not going to be an issue. If the

1183
01:08:30,135 --> 01:08:33,295
Speaker 6: numbers shoot up around the window, then that would indicate

1184
01:08:33,375 --> 01:08:34,455
Speaker 6: that there's an issue there.

1185
01:08:36,095 --> 01:08:39,495
Speaker 18: Yeah, thank good luck with it, and you know, make

1186
01:08:39,575 --> 01:08:42,855
Speaker 18: sure you if you're going to get a pre purchase suspecs, get.

1187
01:08:42,735 --> 01:08:46,215
Speaker 6: Someone who knows what they're talking about. That's really important. Right,

1188
01:08:46,255 --> 01:08:49,135
Speaker 6: we need to take a break. It is seven thirty

1189
01:08:49,215 --> 01:08:51,935
Speaker 6: six at News Talks. B will take the break. We'll

1190
01:08:51,975 --> 01:08:54,655
Speaker 6: come back and talk to Sandy after the break.

1191
01:08:55,255 --> 01:08:59,135
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

1192
01:08:59,175 --> 01:09:02,455
Speaker 1: fielder with Peter Wolfgaf call, oh, eight hundred eighty eight,

1193
01:09:02,655 --> 01:09:03,935
Speaker 1: you've TALKB.

1194
01:09:05,575 --> 01:09:07,895
Speaker 6: The quick text it's coming. Just as a reference to

1195
01:09:08,095 --> 01:09:12,615
Speaker 6: Pete talking about sort of early two thousand's build. Someone

1196
01:09:12,695 --> 01:09:14,975
Speaker 6: sets through to say, hey, look, one of the issues

1197
01:09:15,015 --> 01:09:20,135
Speaker 6: we had then too is finished floor level. So this

1198
01:09:20,375 --> 01:09:24,175
Speaker 6: is where outside ground levels were often allowed to creep

1199
01:09:24,335 --> 01:09:27,855
Speaker 6: up closer and closer to the finished floor level inside.

1200
01:09:28,295 --> 01:09:30,775
Speaker 6: So even if your cladding came down, let's say fifty

1201
01:09:30,815 --> 01:09:34,855
Speaker 6: mili past the bottom of the bottom plate, ground levels

1202
01:09:34,895 --> 01:09:36,815
Speaker 6: would creep up. You get a bit of capillary action

1203
01:09:37,015 --> 01:09:39,335
Speaker 6: or you get less drainage. And it reminds me had

1204
01:09:39,375 --> 01:09:43,495
Speaker 6: a job years ago where the house was tested and

1205
01:09:43,655 --> 01:09:47,535
Speaker 6: one of the bottom plates was ninety two percent moisture content, right,

1206
01:09:47,655 --> 01:09:50,775
Speaker 6: It was just it was ringing, wet, And part of

1207
01:09:50,815 --> 01:09:53,375
Speaker 6: the issue is that whoever poured the driveway poured it

1208
01:09:53,535 --> 01:09:57,895
Speaker 6: up pretty much to the height of the bricks, even

1209
01:09:58,055 --> 01:10:01,335
Speaker 6: fractionally higher than the wheepholes or the vents. So water

1210
01:10:01,495 --> 01:10:03,815
Speaker 6: was actually being pushed into the building because it was

1211
01:10:03,895 --> 01:10:08,535
Speaker 6: shedding off the driveway. Not a simple facts, but not

1212
01:10:08,655 --> 01:10:11,855
Speaker 6: a terribly complicated one either. We just cut the driveway

1213
01:10:11,935 --> 01:10:16,895
Speaker 6: back and created some space there and hate problem. Problem solved,

1214
01:10:16,935 --> 01:10:20,015
Speaker 6: I think, to the best of my knowledge. Right here, Sandy,

1215
01:10:20,095 --> 01:10:21,975
Speaker 6: what's up, morty, mate?

1216
01:10:22,015 --> 01:10:22,295
Speaker 10: How are you?

1217
01:10:22,935 --> 01:10:23,095
Speaker 9: You know?

1218
01:10:23,135 --> 01:10:23,255
Speaker 5: Hey?

1219
01:10:23,335 --> 01:10:24,055
Speaker 6: Good? Thanks buddy.

1220
01:10:25,055 --> 01:10:25,215
Speaker 10: Hey.

1221
01:10:25,575 --> 01:10:29,135
Speaker 8: Water may burst in under driveways. I love it a lot.

1222
01:10:29,815 --> 01:10:32,015
Speaker 8: I do a lot of replacement of those we're thrusting,

1223
01:10:32,815 --> 01:10:39,175
Speaker 8: and I mean a lot a lot. So me, yeah,

1224
01:10:39,295 --> 01:10:41,895
Speaker 8: there's different reasons why. Obviously, pipes burst on the ground

1225
01:10:41,935 --> 01:10:45,015
Speaker 8: could be end of life, could be contaminated, trench could

1226
01:10:45,015 --> 01:10:50,175
Speaker 8: be products not not up to up to standard and

1227
01:10:50,295 --> 01:10:52,535
Speaker 8: just fail like a few years. So there are multiple

1228
01:10:52,855 --> 01:10:55,335
Speaker 8: and of course joiners underground, which is a weak point, right,

1229
01:10:55,975 --> 01:10:59,535
Speaker 8: So my best advice would be this is what me

1230
01:10:59,615 --> 01:11:01,535
Speaker 8: and a plumber that we work together.

1231
01:11:01,615 --> 01:11:01,855
Speaker 6: We do.

1232
01:11:02,535 --> 01:11:05,535
Speaker 8: When we drill a new line, we guarantee the pipe

1233
01:11:05,615 --> 01:11:08,215
Speaker 8: under the drive the new one. We only pull a

1234
01:11:08,255 --> 01:11:10,335
Speaker 8: single pipe. We don't put joiners on it. If the

1235
01:11:10,455 --> 01:11:11,735
Speaker 8: joint is going to be anywhere, it's going to be

1236
01:11:11,775 --> 01:11:14,335
Speaker 8: at either end, at the meter, at the house or

1237
01:11:14,415 --> 01:11:17,095
Speaker 8: somewhere you can access it as a horrible T twenty

1238
01:11:17,135 --> 01:11:20,055
Speaker 8: degree or something. But most houses have their pressure limiting

1239
01:11:20,135 --> 01:11:22,495
Speaker 8: valves at the house, so the house is protected from

1240
01:11:22,535 --> 01:11:25,415
Speaker 8: the water main pressure, but your driveway is not protected.

1241
01:11:25,495 --> 01:11:28,015
Speaker 8: So we move that. We'll put a new one down

1242
01:11:28,095 --> 01:11:30,895
Speaker 8: on the road at the meter, So now your driveway

1243
01:11:31,175 --> 01:11:37,175
Speaker 8: pipe is now protected from names pressure. And that's sometimes

1244
01:11:37,295 --> 01:11:41,295
Speaker 8: the problem, too much pressure from a council name. So

1245
01:11:42,015 --> 01:11:44,175
Speaker 8: your poor pipe under the driveway is not protected, but

1246
01:11:44,255 --> 01:11:47,655
Speaker 8: your house is. So my best advice would be you

1247
01:11:47,695 --> 01:11:50,495
Speaker 8: could either get your pressure tested or do a simple

1248
01:11:50,895 --> 01:11:53,135
Speaker 8: simple thing and move that valve, or get a new

1249
01:11:53,175 --> 01:11:55,375
Speaker 8: one and put it down on the meter to protect

1250
01:11:55,375 --> 01:11:59,535
Speaker 8: the pipe under your drive That's that's it. That's my

1251
01:11:59,615 --> 01:12:00,575
Speaker 8: advice for to day.

1252
01:12:00,455 --> 01:12:06,935
Speaker 6: Man, and it's worth thinking about because funny, I was

1253
01:12:06,975 --> 01:12:09,655
Speaker 6: looking at the job the other day just before we left,

1254
01:12:09,735 --> 01:12:12,655
Speaker 6: where I was thinking I'd like to install a pressure

1255
01:12:12,855 --> 01:12:14,535
Speaker 6: meter and I was going to do it at the

1256
01:12:14,815 --> 01:12:18,015
Speaker 6: end of the water mate, so in part that if

1257
01:12:18,055 --> 01:12:20,335
Speaker 6: there was a problem, you could just come outside turn

1258
01:12:20,375 --> 01:12:23,575
Speaker 6: the water off at that point and not have to

1259
01:12:23,615 --> 01:12:25,655
Speaker 6: go and fossic around and find the toby in the

1260
01:12:25,695 --> 01:12:27,735
Speaker 6: garden and all the rest of it. But what you're

1261
01:12:27,815 --> 01:12:31,215
Speaker 6: saying is why not protect the water maine from the

1262
01:12:31,295 --> 01:12:34,855
Speaker 6: toby to the house and put your pressure relief valvel

1263
01:12:35,255 --> 01:12:36,375
Speaker 6: your limitter there.

1264
01:12:37,535 --> 01:12:39,335
Speaker 8: Yes, and just put a valve of t valves up

1265
01:12:39,375 --> 01:12:40,695
Speaker 8: at the house so you can just run outside and

1266
01:12:40,735 --> 01:12:41,495
Speaker 8: switch it off as Yes.

1267
01:12:42,335 --> 01:12:47,575
Speaker 6: Yeah, perfect, that's good advice. I like that much appreciated.

1268
01:12:47,855 --> 01:12:51,495
Speaker 6: Thank you, seeing you for that. And in some ways

1269
01:12:51,655 --> 01:12:53,935
Speaker 6: it's be careful what you wish for, because what we're

1270
01:12:54,215 --> 01:12:58,055
Speaker 6: asking most of our water services, particularly in Wellington, is

1271
01:12:58,495 --> 01:13:00,535
Speaker 6: to sort out all of the old pipes. Right so

1272
01:13:00,615 --> 01:13:04,615
Speaker 6: where I happen to live, after the last leak in

1273
01:13:04,735 --> 01:13:07,055
Speaker 6: the water maine and the curb the road from me,

1274
01:13:07,175 --> 01:13:08,815
Speaker 6: and I've had it leak in front of my place

1275
01:13:08,855 --> 01:13:10,495
Speaker 6: and I've seen it leak in front of my neighbors.

1276
01:13:11,015 --> 01:13:13,615
Speaker 6: You know, council are going these lines are one hundred

1277
01:13:13,775 --> 01:13:17,695
Speaker 6: plus years old, so ideally you want them to replace them.

1278
01:13:18,135 --> 01:13:22,535
Speaker 6: But obviously the more old existing water mains that are

1279
01:13:22,655 --> 01:13:26,815
Speaker 6: counsel owned are upgraded, the higher the pressure is going

1280
01:13:26,895 --> 01:13:29,255
Speaker 6: to be, and likely the more pressure is going to

1281
01:13:29,335 --> 01:13:32,935
Speaker 6: be coming into private lines and more failures we might see.

1282
01:13:32,975 --> 01:13:34,855
Speaker 6: So it's one of those things. Be careful what you

1283
01:13:34,935 --> 01:13:37,255
Speaker 6: wish for. Right we're being on time, so I'm going

1284
01:13:37,295 --> 01:13:40,015
Speaker 6: to take the break. Marion will be with you straight

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Speaker 6: after the break.

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Speaker 1: Mesa twice, God was, but maybe called Pete first, d

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01:13:44,975 --> 01:13:47,735
Speaker 1: you walcare the resident builder news talks be.

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01:13:49,015 --> 01:13:51,575
Speaker 6: Your new stalks, he'd be. We're talking all things building

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01:13:51,655 --> 01:13:55,015
Speaker 6: and construction, as we do every Sunday morning here at

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01:13:55,055 --> 01:13:58,815
Speaker 6: New Storks CB, and we do it regardless of whether

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01:13:58,855 --> 01:14:01,455
Speaker 6: I'm in the country or not, because right now I'm not,

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01:14:02,295 --> 01:14:05,695
Speaker 6: but with a little laptop and a microphone, which did

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01:14:05,895 --> 01:14:08,895
Speaker 6: cause some consternation when it went through the security check

1294
01:14:08,935 --> 01:14:11,895
Speaker 6: the other day because it's a rather hefty old beast

1295
01:14:12,055 --> 01:14:17,855
Speaker 6: and the gentleman in Paris was like, monsieur, can you

1296
01:14:17,975 --> 01:14:20,695
Speaker 6: explain what this is? And I'm trying to explain that

1297
01:14:20,735 --> 01:14:23,455
Speaker 6: I'm doing some broadcasting and buddy, but anyway, it didn't

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01:14:23,495 --> 01:14:25,055
Speaker 6: go well. But we got there in the end.

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Speaker 14: Marion Greetings, greeting pieces.

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01:14:29,415 --> 01:14:29,655
Speaker 6: Hello.

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01:14:31,655 --> 01:14:38,695
Speaker 14: Well we built our house in castave Ay about twenty

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01:14:39,135 --> 01:14:42,975
Speaker 14: twenty odd years ago. Yep, so it was brand new.

1303
01:14:43,615 --> 01:14:48,775
Speaker 14: It's a double story and it's a upside down house.

1304
01:14:50,575 --> 01:14:57,255
Speaker 14: So now I'm just facing Rangytoto. Yes, right now. We

1305
01:14:57,375 --> 01:14:59,855
Speaker 14: have an earthquakes at Auklin. I know you won't believe this.

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01:15:01,015 --> 01:15:04,975
Speaker 14: And it was at Motor Tampoo and it.

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01:15:05,055 --> 01:15:06,255
Speaker 6: Was out by barrier, wasn't it.

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01:15:06,455 --> 01:15:06,655
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:15:07,495 --> 01:15:12,775
Speaker 14: Yeah, And anyway, we in direct line across the water

1310
01:15:13,775 --> 01:15:16,775
Speaker 14: and we ended up with some cracks in our house.

1311
01:15:18,495 --> 01:15:22,495
Speaker 14: It's on the earthquake and once in the.

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01:15:24,055 --> 01:15:24,335
Speaker 9: In the.

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01:15:25,815 --> 01:15:31,815
Speaker 14: Kitchen, come lounge, yes, and the others bad one is

1314
01:15:33,095 --> 01:15:37,415
Speaker 14: in the garage which is downstairs. And also I noticed

1315
01:15:37,415 --> 01:15:41,095
Speaker 14: this one in the bathroom upstairs. Different little crap. I'm

1316
01:15:41,135 --> 01:15:42,295
Speaker 14: wondering what we should.

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01:15:42,055 --> 01:15:48,335
Speaker 6: Do the challenge. The challenge is going to be convincing

1318
01:15:48,495 --> 01:15:53,935
Speaker 6: you're ensurer that the damage is directly relatable to that

1319
01:15:54,255 --> 01:15:55,175
Speaker 6: seismic event.

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01:15:56,655 --> 01:16:00,375
Speaker 14: I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about Okay.

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01:16:01,295 --> 01:16:03,735
Speaker 6: See, Otherwise, I think an ensured, like if you went

1322
01:16:03,775 --> 01:16:07,255
Speaker 6: to the insurance said we had an earthquake, and everybody

1323
01:16:07,375 --> 01:16:10,415
Speaker 6: knows it because you can check the records right and

1324
01:16:10,535 --> 01:16:13,135
Speaker 6: then say to them, as a result of that earthquake,

1325
01:16:13,455 --> 01:16:18,375
Speaker 6: this damage has happened to my building. With the great respect,

1326
01:16:18,455 --> 01:16:21,895
Speaker 6: I suspect that they will be skeptical if yours was

1327
01:16:22,015 --> 01:16:26,655
Speaker 6: the only incident of reporting damage as a result of

1328
01:16:26,695 --> 01:16:29,215
Speaker 6: the earthquake. Now, if there happened to have been some

1329
01:16:29,455 --> 01:16:35,335
Speaker 6: other houses in your area that also reported damage as

1330
01:16:35,375 --> 01:16:38,815
Speaker 6: a result of that seismic activity, then possibly you'd make

1331
01:16:39,015 --> 01:16:41,335
Speaker 6: You'd be in a position where you could make a

1332
01:16:41,415 --> 01:16:44,895
Speaker 6: claim or your claim would be accepted. I'm not speaking

1333
01:16:44,975 --> 01:16:47,015
Speaker 6: for the insurers, but I'm just thinking about how they

1334
01:16:47,175 --> 01:16:50,975
Speaker 6: might approach this, because you're right, you know, earthquakes in

1335
01:16:51,055 --> 01:16:57,135
Speaker 6: Auckland are unusual and typically they're off a very low scale.

1336
01:16:57,255 --> 01:17:00,255
Speaker 6: And whether or not they were sufficient to cause the cracking.

1337
01:17:00,655 --> 01:17:02,535
Speaker 6: And then the other thing is do you have any

1338
01:17:02,615 --> 01:17:06,855
Speaker 6: evidence to say that there was no cracking there prior

1339
01:17:06,975 --> 01:17:13,815
Speaker 6: to the event of the earthquake. No, Yeah, Look, I

1340
01:17:13,935 --> 01:17:16,975
Speaker 6: think by all means make a claim, but I actually,

1341
01:17:17,735 --> 01:17:20,775
Speaker 6: you know, I know people who are assesses. I suspect

1342
01:17:20,815 --> 01:17:23,535
Speaker 6: that they will approach it with a fair amount of

1343
01:17:24,335 --> 01:17:31,215
Speaker 6: professional skepticism, but looks making a claim.

1344
01:17:35,135 --> 01:17:37,455
Speaker 14: I would say, why didn't you do it just after

1345
01:17:37,495 --> 01:17:38,055
Speaker 14: the earth quoke?

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01:17:39,775 --> 01:17:42,655
Speaker 6: That's the other thing, you know, if you if you

1347
01:17:42,695 --> 01:17:44,735
Speaker 6: woke up the next morning and went, crikey, there's some

1348
01:17:44,815 --> 01:17:48,255
Speaker 6: cracks on my walls, then that would be true too.

1349
01:17:48,375 --> 01:17:52,215
Speaker 6: But look, I don't want to dissuade you from the factors.

1350
01:17:52,575 --> 01:17:56,295
Speaker 6: If you've paid your insurance premiums, you deserve the respective

1351
01:17:56,495 --> 01:18:00,055
Speaker 6: of being listened to. So if you were going to

1352
01:18:00,375 --> 01:18:03,375
Speaker 6: make a claim, do it sooner rather than later. If

1353
01:18:03,455 --> 01:18:05,815
Speaker 6: you can provide some evidence that would help your case

1354
01:18:05,855 --> 01:18:10,375
Speaker 6: as well. And yes, I am aware of that earthquake

1355
01:18:11,055 --> 01:18:14,655
Speaker 6: that happened at that time. Unusual, but they do happen

1356
01:18:14,815 --> 01:18:17,855
Speaker 6: from time to time, but not that much. Because that's

1357
01:18:17,935 --> 01:18:21,815
Speaker 6: partly why the government's changed all the regulations around new

1358
01:18:21,895 --> 01:18:26,375
Speaker 6: building or building code requirements for existing particularly masonry instruction

1359
01:18:26,495 --> 01:18:29,535
Speaker 6: in Auckland, where they don't have to achieve what was

1360
01:18:29,655 --> 01:18:32,415
Speaker 6: initially thought that they needed to achieve in order to

1361
01:18:32,455 --> 01:18:35,895
Speaker 6: be a compliant building. Good luck with that, Marian and Jenny.

1362
01:18:36,055 --> 01:18:37,015
Speaker 6: A very good morning.

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01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:39,295
Speaker 14: Oh good morning, Peter.

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01:18:40,135 --> 01:18:44,015
Speaker 9: We've just moved into a new property and it has

1365
01:18:44,095 --> 01:18:49,015
Speaker 9: a macrocarpa deck around fifty to sixty square meters, so

1366
01:18:49,175 --> 01:18:52,295
Speaker 9: quite a big deck. But it's in a really bad condition.

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01:18:52,695 --> 01:18:56,255
Speaker 9: Like the previous signers hadn't been successful in getting the

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01:18:56,375 --> 01:19:00,495
Speaker 9: deck to look good. But the deck shows it's got peling,

1369
01:19:00,615 --> 01:19:04,975
Speaker 9: painting parts which show either bear wood or stained wood.

1370
01:19:05,695 --> 01:19:09,615
Speaker 9: And we're just wondering, how do we fix it, place

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01:19:10,335 --> 01:19:13,975
Speaker 9: it back to bear wood or water or.

1372
01:19:15,215 --> 01:19:18,775
Speaker 6: When you say macrocarper, So the actual decking timber itself

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01:19:18,935 --> 01:19:20,535
Speaker 6: is macrocarper.

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01:19:20,975 --> 01:19:25,335
Speaker 9: Yes it is, yes, but I told us that when yeah.

1375
01:19:26,135 --> 01:19:30,695
Speaker 6: Right, which, to be fair, is not particularly common, right

1376
01:19:30,815 --> 01:19:36,615
Speaker 6: because soft wood and oh yes, yeah, yeah, okay, and

1377
01:19:36,735 --> 01:19:39,535
Speaker 6: then they've painted the macro carver.

1378
01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:44,775
Speaker 9: Yes, they've they've painted, they've stained it. They also have

1379
01:19:44,895 --> 01:19:47,375
Speaker 9: a t they've got a table on the deck which

1380
01:19:47,455 --> 01:19:51,455
Speaker 9: they left that's either been stained or painted or something.

1381
01:19:51,575 --> 01:19:53,935
Speaker 12: But the deck is just really bad.

1382
01:19:54,135 --> 01:19:56,815
Speaker 9: Yes, he definitely said macro carver. And I think he

1383
01:19:56,895 --> 01:19:58,175
Speaker 9: did say it's a soft.

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01:19:58,015 --> 01:19:59,495
Speaker 2: Wood, Yeah it is.

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01:20:00,495 --> 01:20:02,335
Speaker 6: And roughly how old would the deck be?

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01:20:05,255 --> 01:20:12,615
Speaker 9: Years old? Oh yeah, around five yeah, and it just

1387
01:20:12,735 --> 01:20:16,455
Speaker 9: looks really bad and different parts. Yeah, my husband's just

1388
01:20:16,535 --> 01:20:21,135
Speaker 9: wondering what's the best tick to take initially to take

1389
01:20:21,215 --> 01:20:24,535
Speaker 9: it back, I guess, And then what would you recommend

1390
01:20:24,615 --> 01:20:25,175
Speaker 9: putting on it?

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01:20:26,415 --> 01:20:30,855
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing. See, I look, if if it's

1392
01:20:30,895 --> 01:20:33,055
Speaker 6: an area that you use a lot, and you you

1393
01:20:33,455 --> 01:20:35,375
Speaker 6: you know, you want it to be an integral part

1394
01:20:35,415 --> 01:20:36,855
Speaker 6: of how you live in the house in terms of

1395
01:20:36,935 --> 01:20:41,015
Speaker 6: indoor outdoor flow, I wonder whether anything you did would

1396
01:20:41,135 --> 01:20:43,095
Speaker 6: just leave you with a whole lot of compromises.

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01:20:44,455 --> 01:20:48,135
Speaker 19: Oh, I don't know.

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01:20:48,575 --> 01:20:50,175
Speaker 6: I mean, I know you've just bought the house and

1399
01:20:50,775 --> 01:20:53,135
Speaker 6: all the rest of it. I kind of look at

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01:20:53,175 --> 01:20:55,655
Speaker 6: it and go, you know, if it's a really important

1401
01:20:55,735 --> 01:20:59,255
Speaker 6: area to you that gets a lot of use, I

1402
01:20:59,535 --> 01:21:02,855
Speaker 6: would actually think about just pulling it out and replacing

1403
01:21:02,895 --> 01:21:09,215
Speaker 6: it a more suitable material, which is probably not what

1404
01:21:09,335 --> 01:21:12,455
Speaker 6: you want to hear look there.

1405
01:21:13,175 --> 01:21:13,495
Speaker 14: To hear it.

1406
01:21:13,895 --> 01:21:17,935
Speaker 6: No, he probably won't, and I hesitate to mention it,

1407
01:21:18,015 --> 01:21:22,575
Speaker 6: but I just think that, Like I love macrocarpa right,

1408
01:21:22,655 --> 01:21:25,375
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong. I think it's a fabulous timber.

1409
01:21:25,775 --> 01:21:29,175
Speaker 6: I've done some furniture making with it. I've used it

1410
01:21:29,255 --> 01:21:33,935
Speaker 6: for outdoor seating areas and retaining walls and all the rest.

1411
01:21:34,135 --> 01:21:36,415
Speaker 6: I love it, and I love the smell in particular,

1412
01:21:37,695 --> 01:21:40,135
Speaker 6: But would I either use it as decking. No, I

1413
01:21:40,295 --> 01:21:44,655
Speaker 6: don't know that I would. Doing the news is to

1414
01:21:44,735 --> 01:21:47,335
Speaker 6: see whether or not you can actually get it as decking.

1415
01:21:47,975 --> 01:21:49,655
Speaker 6: I'll do a little bit of reading during the news.

1416
01:21:49,735 --> 01:21:54,495
Speaker 6: But look, and then when you say paint, it's literally

1417
01:21:54,615 --> 01:21:57,095
Speaker 6: being painted, as in with color over the.

1418
01:21:58,695 --> 01:21:58,935
Speaker 14: Yes.

1419
01:21:59,015 --> 01:21:59,495
Speaker 11: That is.

1420
01:21:59,615 --> 01:21:59,775
Speaker 17: Yes.

1421
01:21:59,975 --> 01:22:02,415
Speaker 9: When we moved in, the owner was still here and

1422
01:22:02,775 --> 01:22:06,055
Speaker 9: my husband mentioned the deck to him, and they came

1423
01:22:06,095 --> 01:22:08,575
Speaker 9: in and stood on the deck, and that's what he said,

1424
01:22:08,615 --> 01:22:10,735
Speaker 9: it being done. Yeah, he'd tried everything.

1425
01:22:11,015 --> 01:22:16,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, acrocauper doesn't really take well to painting. You know,

1426
01:22:16,335 --> 01:22:18,895
Speaker 6: it's a beautiful timber. I want to keep you. So

1427
01:22:19,335 --> 01:22:22,375
Speaker 6: there's a couple of challenges there, Jenny, stay listening after

1428
01:22:22,415 --> 01:22:25,855
Speaker 6: the news. I'll make a couple of recommendations once I've

1429
01:22:25,895 --> 01:22:27,775
Speaker 6: done a little bit of reading and research because we've

1430
01:22:27,775 --> 01:22:30,095
Speaker 6: got the eight o'clock news coming up, a little bit

1431
01:22:30,135 --> 01:22:32,855
Speaker 6: of Christmas music. Remember, in the next hour of the show,

1432
01:22:33,095 --> 01:22:35,615
Speaker 6: the Root Climb Past will join us as always at

1433
01:22:35,655 --> 01:22:37,615
Speaker 6: around eight point thirty. I'm going to do a bit

1434
01:22:37,655 --> 01:22:40,495
Speaker 6: of research. We'll be back straight after news, sport and weather.

1435
01:22:44,495 --> 01:22:47,455
Speaker 1: Doing other house sorting. The garden asked Pete for ahead

1436
01:22:47,735 --> 01:22:51,935
Speaker 1: the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap Call eighty ten eighty

1437
01:22:52,095 --> 01:22:54,415
Speaker 1: News Talks V Right.

1438
01:22:54,575 --> 01:22:57,495
Speaker 6: News Talks V. It is six minutes almost seven minutes

1439
01:22:57,575 --> 01:23:00,615
Speaker 6: after eight on a Sunday morning. I was going to say,

1440
01:23:00,615 --> 01:23:03,295
Speaker 6: beautiful Sunday morning. I don't know because I'm not there,

1441
01:23:03,415 --> 01:23:05,215
Speaker 6: but I could look it up online and figure it out.

1442
01:23:05,895 --> 01:23:08,575
Speaker 6: And well, it got dark here at about four point

1443
01:23:08,575 --> 01:23:12,335
Speaker 6: thirty in the afternoon, so you can guess which hemisphere

1444
01:23:12,455 --> 01:23:15,575
Speaker 6: I happen to be in. Right now, Radio Let's talk

1445
01:23:15,695 --> 01:23:18,575
Speaker 6: all things building and construction. Eight hundred and eighty ten

1446
01:23:18,695 --> 01:23:21,935
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call now. I did do

1447
01:23:22,135 --> 01:23:25,895
Speaker 6: a little bit of research around the macrocarpa decking and

1448
01:23:28,735 --> 01:23:31,975
Speaker 6: this is egg on FaceTime, right, So macrocarpa decking is

1449
01:23:32,015 --> 01:23:34,895
Speaker 6: a thing. Interestingly enough, one of the websites that I

1450
01:23:34,975 --> 01:23:37,775
Speaker 6: had to look at they didn't intend to, but they

1451
01:23:37,895 --> 01:23:41,575
Speaker 6: happened to have featured one of my absolutely favorite houses.

1452
01:23:42,215 --> 01:23:44,375
Speaker 6: You can only see a glimpse of it on the website,

1453
01:23:44,455 --> 01:23:46,895
Speaker 6: but it is one of my absolute favorites anyway, that

1454
01:23:47,015 --> 01:23:50,495
Speaker 6: aside the macrocarp for deckings there it is a popular

1455
01:23:50,615 --> 01:23:54,095
Speaker 6: solution apparently for decking. Yes, it is a softwood, so

1456
01:23:54,695 --> 01:23:56,295
Speaker 6: I guess it's a soft wood in the same way

1457
01:23:56,295 --> 01:23:59,135
Speaker 6: as ponus radiator is a softwood. You don't need to

1458
01:23:59,215 --> 01:24:03,655
Speaker 6: treat it. The natural oils and so on will resist decay.

1459
01:24:04,455 --> 01:24:07,135
Speaker 6: But I don't think that anyone ever imagined that you

1460
01:24:07,175 --> 01:24:10,535
Speaker 6: would put a coat of paint over macrocarper. So maybe

1461
01:24:10,615 --> 01:24:14,175
Speaker 6: that's the issue, in which case just attacking it with

1462
01:24:14,255 --> 01:24:19,335
Speaker 6: a belt sander, removing the paint and then restoring the

1463
01:24:19,455 --> 01:24:22,815
Speaker 6: timber underneath it. Hopefully the primers haven't soaked too far

1464
01:24:22,935 --> 01:24:27,335
Speaker 6: into the fibers to cause it to deteriorate, or not deteriorate,

1465
01:24:27,415 --> 01:24:32,535
Speaker 6: but to stain effectively. So, Jenny, if you're still listening,

1466
01:24:32,575 --> 01:24:36,015
Speaker 6: and I hope you are, then I would say getting

1467
01:24:36,095 --> 01:24:40,215
Speaker 6: someone to sand the surface off, remove the paint system,

1468
01:24:40,855 --> 01:24:44,815
Speaker 6: maybe apply to natural oils that will enhance the macrocarper.

1469
01:24:45,135 --> 01:24:47,855
Speaker 6: You might be able to salvage it. But it does

1470
01:24:47,935 --> 01:24:50,735
Speaker 6: seem like a crying shame that someone has gone through

1471
01:24:50,855 --> 01:24:54,535
Speaker 6: and painted over the top of the macrocarper. Right, Oh,

1472
01:24:54,615 --> 01:24:56,855
Speaker 6: if you've got a question of a building nature and

1473
01:24:56,975 --> 01:25:00,095
Speaker 6: it can be Actually, it's been a thoroughly practical show

1474
01:25:00,175 --> 01:25:03,535
Speaker 6: this morning, which I've really enjoyed, or at around this time.

1475
01:25:03,615 --> 01:25:05,695
Speaker 6: Last week on the show we did have Mike Thornton,

1476
01:25:06,415 --> 01:25:09,855
Speaker 6: barrister and solicitor talking to the proposal by the new

1477
01:25:09,895 --> 01:25:14,615
Speaker 6: government to introduce ten year mandatory warranties for new bills

1478
01:25:14,815 --> 01:25:17,215
Speaker 6: and for renovations over one hundred thousand. We can talk

1479
01:25:17,255 --> 01:25:20,295
Speaker 6: about that, We can talk about all things building and construction.

1480
01:25:20,415 --> 01:25:22,415
Speaker 6: You can give me a call right now on eight

1481
01:25:22,535 --> 01:25:28,335
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty. As per usual, the Root

1482
01:25:28,455 --> 01:25:31,535
Speaker 6: will be along at eight thirty this morning. We'll talk

1483
01:25:31,575 --> 01:25:35,735
Speaker 6: all things gardening in the wonderful world of entomology as well,

1484
01:25:40,535 --> 01:25:42,135
Speaker 6: and a couple of other text that come. And just

1485
01:25:42,255 --> 01:25:45,735
Speaker 6: with regard to the assurance, the lady asked how to

1486
01:25:45,815 --> 01:25:51,375
Speaker 6: fix the crack. Oh, she said she didn't care anyway. Look,

1487
01:25:51,455 --> 01:25:54,575
Speaker 6: you can fix and cracks and plasterboard if they're there,

1488
01:25:54,775 --> 01:25:59,175
Speaker 6: is relatively straightforward. Typically I tend to scrape the surface down,

1489
01:25:59,375 --> 01:26:02,015
Speaker 6: remove a little bit of the surface, ideally, put in

1490
01:26:02,135 --> 01:26:06,175
Speaker 6: some bandage, then some stopping compound, flush that off, repaint

1491
01:26:06,375 --> 01:26:09,655
Speaker 6: and typically you have to repaint the wall. Oh, eight

1492
01:26:09,775 --> 01:26:11,735
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Will

1493
01:26:11,775 --> 01:26:14,175
Speaker 6: take the break. Then we'll talk to Steve in just a.

1494
01:26:14,255 --> 01:26:17,095
Speaker 1: Moment, whether you're paidy with ceiling, fixing with fens or

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1517
01:27:33,735 --> 01:27:37,055
Speaker 6: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number, Steve, Good morning.

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01:27:38,215 --> 01:27:45,455
Speaker 20: Good morning, good one. Hey a goal. I want to

1519
01:27:45,535 --> 01:27:48,935
Speaker 20: make it out of two hundred by two hundred timber

1520
01:27:49,215 --> 01:27:53,935
Speaker 20: for the posts. What's the bit timber to use? And

1521
01:27:54,255 --> 01:27:57,535
Speaker 20: what are your thoughts on late laminated timber for something

1522
01:27:57,615 --> 01:27:58,535
Speaker 20: that's that's sick.

1523
01:28:00,335 --> 01:28:03,895
Speaker 6: The laminates are pretty good, to be fair, and certainly

1524
01:28:04,175 --> 01:28:06,935
Speaker 6: it's hard to go past a laminate in terms of

1525
01:28:07,135 --> 01:28:10,695
Speaker 6: something that's not going to move around. So you know,

1526
01:28:10,775 --> 01:28:11,375
Speaker 6: then you've got to go.

1527
01:28:12,895 --> 01:28:15,615
Speaker 20: Just as well, I'll go to be painting it black?

1528
01:28:17,175 --> 01:28:18,575
Speaker 20: Has any impact?

1529
01:28:19,735 --> 01:28:24,415
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I mean you've got to be so careful

1530
01:28:24,495 --> 01:28:29,575
Speaker 6: with dark colors onto timber. Right in general you can

1531
01:28:30,015 --> 01:28:33,015
Speaker 6: or if you're going to do that, then have a

1532
01:28:33,055 --> 01:28:36,295
Speaker 6: look at the Razine range of cool colors right that

1533
01:28:36,495 --> 01:28:43,015
Speaker 6: have a reflective undercoat effectively that allows rather than absorbing heat,

1534
01:28:43,135 --> 01:28:45,375
Speaker 6: it will help to push back a little bit of heat.

1535
01:28:45,855 --> 01:28:49,455
Speaker 6: But saying that, you know, lamonate timbers or all timber

1536
01:28:50,135 --> 01:28:55,695
Speaker 6: painted dark, yes, but yes, you'll notice some more movement

1537
01:28:55,775 --> 01:28:57,655
Speaker 6: than you would if you painted it a light color,

1538
01:28:58,215 --> 01:29:02,255
Speaker 6: all right, but I'm just giving you the background on it.

1539
01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:05,455
Speaker 6: You can you can do what you want lamon. It's

1540
01:29:05,655 --> 01:29:09,895
Speaker 6: definitely are you know, for big heavy posts if you

1541
01:29:09,935 --> 01:29:12,135
Speaker 6: don't want them twisting and bending and all the rest

1542
01:29:12,175 --> 01:29:14,335
Speaker 6: of it. It's pretty much the best way to go.

1543
01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:16,455
Speaker 2: Okay, cool.

1544
01:29:17,735 --> 01:29:19,775
Speaker 6: And then if you're going to paint it, make sure

1545
01:29:20,095 --> 01:29:23,655
Speaker 6: that you you read them, you know, get the details

1546
01:29:23,815 --> 01:29:26,695
Speaker 6: around the system that you're going to use in terms

1547
01:29:26,735 --> 01:29:30,335
Speaker 6: of what the primer is. What it might be two primers,

1548
01:29:30,375 --> 01:29:34,095
Speaker 6: it might be one oil based, one water based, the

1549
01:29:34,255 --> 01:29:37,135
Speaker 6: right type of undercoats, bring it up and don't wait

1550
01:29:37,255 --> 01:29:39,495
Speaker 6: too long before you start the painting. Don't let the

1551
01:29:39,615 --> 01:29:43,815
Speaker 6: timber get too weathered before you get a code of

1552
01:29:43,855 --> 01:29:46,335
Speaker 6: paint on it would be my advice. And then also

1553
01:29:46,455 --> 01:29:48,495
Speaker 6: if you're you got to think about how you're going

1554
01:29:48,535 --> 01:29:50,495
Speaker 6: to treat the end grain at the top. So what

1555
01:29:50,575 --> 01:29:53,695
Speaker 6: you don't want to do is allow water to enter

1556
01:29:53,775 --> 01:29:56,255
Speaker 6: the post at the top. So maybe you end up

1557
01:29:56,295 --> 01:29:59,495
Speaker 6: with a little cap flashing or sealing that in some

1558
01:29:59,655 --> 01:30:02,095
Speaker 6: way to make sure water is not entering the top

1559
01:30:02,095 --> 01:30:02,575
Speaker 6: of the post.

1560
01:30:03,655 --> 01:30:08,775
Speaker 20: Yeah, I was going to put a slight before cross beams.

1561
01:30:08,775 --> 01:30:12,815
Speaker 6: A good idea, yep, and then thoroughly seal that and

1562
01:30:12,975 --> 01:30:15,815
Speaker 6: remember it because the lemon a posts will be h

1563
01:30:15,895 --> 01:30:19,095
Speaker 6: three point two treated. So when you do the cuts,

1564
01:30:19,575 --> 01:30:24,295
Speaker 6: use some sealant to re seal those cuts to make

1565
01:30:24,335 --> 01:30:26,895
Speaker 6: sure you've got the timber preservative right through the timber.

1566
01:30:28,095 --> 01:30:37,375
Speaker 20: Okay, what about acid washing a newly laid concrete it's

1567
01:30:37,415 --> 01:30:38,655
Speaker 20: been down for about three weeks?

1568
01:30:39,415 --> 01:30:40,935
Speaker 2: Is that hard to do or do?

1569
01:30:41,295 --> 01:30:41,455
Speaker 10: Get?

1570
01:30:43,215 --> 01:30:45,455
Speaker 6: No, it's it's not. I mean, so have you gone

1571
01:30:45,495 --> 01:30:47,215
Speaker 6: for an exposed aggregate finish.

1572
01:30:48,735 --> 01:30:51,255
Speaker 20: No smooth, smooth concrete black?

1573
01:30:53,975 --> 01:30:56,775
Speaker 6: Or would do you really want to be doing an

1574
01:30:56,775 --> 01:30:59,335
Speaker 6: acid wash on it? Like, what's the advantage to it?

1575
01:31:00,695 --> 01:31:07,015
Speaker 20: Well, I need to seal it. Okay, yes, all right

1576
01:31:08,455 --> 01:31:10,455
Speaker 20: as acid watch it first and then seal it.

1577
01:31:12,655 --> 01:31:12,895
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1578
01:31:14,695 --> 01:31:18,735
Speaker 6: The tricky part is getting an even coat of acid

1579
01:31:18,815 --> 01:31:21,695
Speaker 6: on it so you don't end up staining it and

1580
01:31:21,895 --> 01:31:25,055
Speaker 6: having sort of more applied to one area than to

1581
01:31:25,135 --> 01:31:28,935
Speaker 6: another and inadvertently making your finished go a but patchy.

1582
01:31:30,575 --> 01:31:34,135
Speaker 20: Okay, So just water plaster and seal it.

1583
01:31:35,575 --> 01:31:36,775
Speaker 6: Yes, that would be sufficient.

1584
01:31:38,535 --> 01:31:44,695
Speaker 20: Okay, yeah, all right? Yeah, and sealing it's just like

1585
01:31:45,855 --> 01:31:47,815
Speaker 20: painting a wall sort of thing, Just a.

1586
01:31:48,095 --> 01:31:50,575
Speaker 6: Big roller and the where you go, big fluffy roller

1587
01:31:50,615 --> 01:31:51,095
Speaker 6: and away you go.

1588
01:31:52,495 --> 01:31:52,855
Speaker 5: Perfect.

1589
01:31:52,975 --> 01:31:55,575
Speaker 6: Thanks very much, it sounds good. Enjoy that, Steve, take care,

1590
01:31:55,935 --> 01:31:58,775
Speaker 6: see you. Bobby and Murray, A very good morning to you.

1591
01:32:00,255 --> 01:32:03,375
Speaker 19: Good morning. We have quite a game. Back to your

1592
01:32:03,415 --> 01:32:07,375
Speaker 19: Mexica a deck. We have quite a large it's probably

1593
01:32:07,535 --> 01:32:11,255
Speaker 19: close to twenty meters long by four meters wide, and

1594
01:32:11,615 --> 01:32:14,975
Speaker 19: it gets very very slippery in the rain, in the wet.

1595
01:32:15,695 --> 01:32:17,295
Speaker 19: When you go right out there and you walk on

1596
01:32:17,455 --> 01:32:20,975
Speaker 19: the deck, it can be very very slippery. And I'm

1597
01:32:21,015 --> 01:32:24,575
Speaker 19: open to ideas on how we would stop that slipperiness.

1598
01:32:27,095 --> 01:32:31,135
Speaker 19: I possibly why they're previous Zoner. When I'm painted, there's

1599
01:32:31,215 --> 01:32:33,335
Speaker 19: one or some something that was non slip.

1600
01:32:35,535 --> 01:32:38,095
Speaker 6: You wonder whether that might have been because typically you'd go,

1601
01:32:38,415 --> 01:32:41,375
Speaker 6: why would you take a really nice looking timber and

1602
01:32:41,455 --> 01:32:44,015
Speaker 6: then cover it and paint right unless what you were

1603
01:32:44,015 --> 01:32:46,695
Speaker 6: doing is you were putting some aggregate into that, some

1604
01:32:46,895 --> 01:32:49,935
Speaker 6: very fine sand into there to give you some slip

1605
01:32:50,015 --> 01:32:52,935
Speaker 6: resistance on it. And in that sense, I can understand

1606
01:32:52,975 --> 01:32:57,135
Speaker 6: why you'd do it. The Mecrocarpa decking that you've got down,

1607
01:32:57,575 --> 01:33:00,415
Speaker 6: did it, has it ever had a sealer applied to it?

1608
01:33:00,575 --> 01:33:02,295
Speaker 6: Like a natural oil or something like that.

1609
01:33:03,695 --> 01:33:07,815
Speaker 19: I don't believe. So we've bought it with the property

1610
01:33:07,895 --> 01:33:12,095
Speaker 19: and it's it's not that old as probably only five

1611
01:33:12,215 --> 01:33:15,455
Speaker 19: years old as grade off, Yeah, I'm much close to

1612
01:33:15,575 --> 01:33:18,495
Speaker 19: threen years old. But it's grade off quite nicely, and

1613
01:33:18,895 --> 01:33:27,815
Speaker 19: it looks the party just it's almost treacherous in the rain, and.

1614
01:33:27,895 --> 01:33:30,375
Speaker 6: I wonder whether it is part of that if like

1615
01:33:30,495 --> 01:33:33,735
Speaker 6: if it hasn't been sealed and so over time it's

1616
01:33:33,775 --> 01:33:36,975
Speaker 6: grade off, which is also means it's developed probably a

1617
01:33:37,015 --> 01:33:39,015
Speaker 6: little bit of a film of some moss and mold

1618
01:33:39,095 --> 01:33:42,055
Speaker 6: and so on. If you were to use a deck

1619
01:33:42,255 --> 01:33:47,215
Speaker 6: treatment and remove that surface or clean that surface, would

1620
01:33:47,295 --> 01:33:50,335
Speaker 6: you find then that it would be less slippery because

1621
01:33:50,375 --> 01:33:53,455
Speaker 6: you've got more of the fibers of the timber exposed

1622
01:33:53,495 --> 01:33:58,455
Speaker 6: and they're not coated in basically slippery mold. So because

1623
01:33:58,495 --> 01:34:01,775
Speaker 6: no matter what you're going to do, yeah, no matter

1624
01:34:01,855 --> 01:34:03,055
Speaker 6: what you're going to do, you're going to have to

1625
01:34:03,095 --> 01:34:05,735
Speaker 6: clean the timber. So I wonder whether you get the

1626
01:34:05,855 --> 01:34:10,695
Speaker 6: proprie deck wash, you apply that you let it sit

1627
01:34:10,775 --> 01:34:14,095
Speaker 6: for a little while, agitate with a soft broom, remove

1628
01:34:14,215 --> 01:34:17,015
Speaker 6: it with a little bit of water pressure, but not

1629
01:34:17,255 --> 01:34:20,735
Speaker 6: water blasting. It because that will damage the fibers and

1630
01:34:20,895 --> 01:34:23,455
Speaker 6: then let that dry off. Perfect time to be doing

1631
01:34:23,495 --> 01:34:27,815
Speaker 6: it now before Christmas. It'll dry. See how that works.

1632
01:34:28,055 --> 01:34:31,255
Speaker 6: After we get the inevitable rain on Christmas Day, if

1633
01:34:31,295 --> 01:34:34,335
Speaker 6: it's less slippery, then that might be the process. And

1634
01:34:34,415 --> 01:34:37,735
Speaker 6: it just becomes a maintenance thing where let's say every

1635
01:34:37,815 --> 01:34:40,615
Speaker 6: eighteen months or every second summer, you give the deck

1636
01:34:40,655 --> 01:34:43,415
Speaker 6: a thorough clean and then it's the lack of moss

1637
01:34:43,495 --> 01:34:45,415
Speaker 6: and mold that will make it less slippery.

1638
01:34:47,095 --> 01:34:51,415
Speaker 19: Right, Okay, that's all right, then we might attack. Thank

1639
01:34:51,455 --> 01:34:51,975
Speaker 19: you very much.

1640
01:34:52,615 --> 01:34:55,495
Speaker 6: All right, good luck, take care all of this, and

1641
01:34:56,055 --> 01:34:57,255
Speaker 6: paul a very good morning to you.

1642
01:34:58,815 --> 01:35:01,215
Speaker 15: Yeah, hi, Peter, you're in Auckland at home.

1643
01:35:02,735 --> 01:35:03,855
Speaker 8: Weather A.

1644
01:35:07,455 --> 01:35:11,495
Speaker 15: Given it a wash scrub down. You know, I'm just

1645
01:35:11,575 --> 01:35:14,015
Speaker 15: saying we want to put the product on it. But

1646
01:35:14,175 --> 01:35:16,055
Speaker 15: maybe it was because it was too hard. It might

1647
01:35:16,135 --> 01:35:19,135
Speaker 15: have dried up, but it's still okay. I'm just worrying.

1648
01:35:19,295 --> 01:35:22,695
Speaker 15: Is it far off with a couple of coaster stain

1649
01:35:23,215 --> 01:35:27,015
Speaker 15: it's a quiller, yeah, and it just needs to be

1650
01:35:28,335 --> 01:35:30,175
Speaker 15: cleaned and coated again.

1651
01:35:33,735 --> 01:35:36,895
Speaker 6: Yes, I think you probably want to leave it for

1652
01:35:37,015 --> 01:35:41,095
Speaker 6: at least two weeks of dry conditions from washing it

1653
01:35:41,535 --> 01:35:44,255
Speaker 6: and using a proprietary deckwash on it and cleaning the

1654
01:35:44,375 --> 01:35:48,975
Speaker 6: surface to applying some sort of seal it because I

1655
01:35:49,095 --> 01:35:51,535
Speaker 6: know that you know, Auckland anyway, had a hell of

1656
01:35:51,575 --> 01:35:53,295
Speaker 6: a lot of rain a couple of weeks ago. There's

1657
01:35:53,375 --> 01:35:55,775
Speaker 6: quite a bit on the forecast for later on this week.

1658
01:35:56,295 --> 01:36:00,375
Speaker 6: So I think that if it's too saturated, it won't

1659
01:36:00,575 --> 01:36:03,735
Speaker 6: absorb the stain. You want the timber. You want to

1660
01:36:03,975 --> 01:36:06,975
Speaker 6: saturate the timber to open up the fibers, but then

1661
01:36:07,015 --> 01:36:10,295
Speaker 6: you want that to dry, and then there's a sweet

1662
01:36:10,375 --> 01:36:13,695
Speaker 6: spot where two three weeks later, after it's been dry,

1663
01:36:14,015 --> 01:36:16,735
Speaker 6: apply the seala and the seala will be absorbed into

1664
01:36:16,815 --> 01:36:19,735
Speaker 6: the fibers of the timber. So don't rush to put

1665
01:36:19,775 --> 01:36:22,215
Speaker 6: a seala on it, your clear sealar on it, or

1666
01:36:22,295 --> 01:36:25,295
Speaker 6: your colored seala if it's too wet.

1667
01:36:26,695 --> 01:36:29,935
Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, so just the seala before you put the

1668
01:36:30,015 --> 01:36:32,455
Speaker 15: whole stained coat on.

1669
01:36:33,975 --> 01:36:35,975
Speaker 6: What well, what are you going to use? Are you

1670
01:36:36,095 --> 01:36:39,735
Speaker 6: going for a film forming seala which sits on the surface,

1671
01:36:39,895 --> 01:36:45,415
Speaker 6: or you going it's it's already been done, yes, so

1672
01:36:45,535 --> 01:36:49,935
Speaker 6: it just it's and then it's been cleaned. Okay. In

1673
01:36:50,015 --> 01:36:53,055
Speaker 6: that instance there, I think if you've left it five

1674
01:36:53,535 --> 01:36:57,295
Speaker 6: maybe a week of dry weather. But then what's really important?

1675
01:36:57,415 --> 01:37:01,175
Speaker 6: Are you using exactly the same system as you used before?

1676
01:37:03,735 --> 01:37:03,935
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1677
01:37:04,335 --> 01:37:07,775
Speaker 15: Yeah, basically, but I guess so what I'm asking is

1678
01:37:07,815 --> 01:37:10,535
Speaker 15: that because it was done in the dry, whether it

1679
01:37:11,215 --> 01:37:14,055
Speaker 15: doesn't like you're saying, needs to be damp, and we

1680
01:37:14,495 --> 01:37:18,815
Speaker 15: persolutely have to dry after it's got that cleaner on it.

1681
01:37:20,535 --> 01:37:23,215
Speaker 15: See you end, I might need to put a seal

1682
01:37:23,295 --> 01:37:25,655
Speaker 15: it over again and wait five days before I put

1683
01:37:25,735 --> 01:37:29,375
Speaker 15: a Yeah what a cela.

1684
01:37:30,535 --> 01:37:33,215
Speaker 6: I think. If you've cleaned it and it's ready for

1685
01:37:33,335 --> 01:37:35,615
Speaker 6: the seala, all you need to do is make sure

1686
01:37:35,655 --> 01:37:38,895
Speaker 6: that it's dry, reasonably dry, and then apply the seala

1687
01:37:39,055 --> 01:37:43,095
Speaker 6: or whatever decking finish you're going to do. But if

1688
01:37:43,175 --> 01:37:46,735
Speaker 6: you've already had decking finish on there, you need to

1689
01:37:46,815 --> 01:37:49,295
Speaker 6: make sure you're using the same system. So in some

1690
01:37:49,535 --> 01:37:52,695
Speaker 6: cases people apply an oil over the top of a

1691
01:37:52,815 --> 01:37:56,135
Speaker 6: film and it just sits on top, or they try

1692
01:37:56,215 --> 01:37:59,575
Speaker 6: and apply a film where there's a seala that's already

1693
01:37:59,655 --> 01:38:02,695
Speaker 6: penetrated and it won't stick and it goes blotchy. So

1694
01:38:03,335 --> 01:38:07,695
Speaker 6: stick to the same system and you'll be okay, okay, fine,

1695
01:38:09,495 --> 01:38:12,015
Speaker 6: very best, all right, you take care to see Paul.

1696
01:38:13,015 --> 01:38:16,335
Speaker 6: Remember we've got red Climb pass coming up shortly. He's

1697
01:38:16,335 --> 01:38:18,775
Speaker 6: probably ready to go. So if you've got some questions

1698
01:38:18,815 --> 01:38:22,855
Speaker 6: for Rud, it's eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll take

1699
01:38:23,095 --> 01:38:24,575
Speaker 6: Rid through to the news.

1700
01:38:24,615 --> 01:38:24,735
Speaker 10: Now.

1701
01:38:24,775 --> 01:38:26,175
Speaker 6: A couple of quick texts that have come in just

1702
01:38:26,295 --> 01:38:28,415
Speaker 6: with regard to some of what we've been talking about.

1703
01:38:29,095 --> 01:38:32,615
Speaker 6: You can water down the acid so that it's less

1704
01:38:32,695 --> 01:38:35,535
Speaker 6: harsh and it allows for a more even spread. So

1705
01:38:36,655 --> 01:38:41,055
Speaker 6: absolutely you would never just apply acid to clean concrete

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01:38:41,295 --> 01:38:45,135
Speaker 6: neat onto the concrete itself. So typically it's diluted and

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01:38:45,255 --> 01:38:48,575
Speaker 6: the formula will be on the bottle, maybe into a

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01:38:48,655 --> 01:38:52,895
Speaker 6: watering can or into a backsprack, backpack spray apply that,

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01:38:53,455 --> 01:38:55,415
Speaker 6: allow it to work for a little while and then

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01:38:55,655 --> 01:38:58,255
Speaker 6: rinse it off and that'll remove any of that last

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01:38:58,375 --> 01:39:01,895
Speaker 6: residue of the semititious material that's on top of that

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Speaker 6: and last one on decking. I think today, Hey Pete,

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01:39:05,855 --> 01:39:08,575
Speaker 6: we've got Queila deck in an area around the pool

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01:39:08,815 --> 01:39:11,975
Speaker 6: been down for years, it's been left natural, it's grayed off,

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01:39:12,415 --> 01:39:16,615
Speaker 6: there's no seala, but we are troubled with splinters. What

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01:39:16,775 --> 01:39:20,375
Speaker 6: can we do please? From Lynn? I guess if it's

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01:39:20,455 --> 01:39:24,135
Speaker 6: never been sealed. You could do a proprietary deck wash

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01:39:24,455 --> 01:39:28,375
Speaker 6: set to clean it up, then run over it with

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01:39:28,535 --> 01:39:33,095
Speaker 6: a sander, and then apply a penetrating oil sealer that

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01:39:33,175 --> 01:39:35,735
Speaker 6: will just bind it all together. Would probably be what

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01:39:35,815 --> 01:39:39,775
Speaker 6: I'd do. I know it seems an unusual task to

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01:39:39,855 --> 01:39:43,575
Speaker 6: go outside and sand your decking down, but that would

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01:39:43,615 --> 01:39:45,615
Speaker 6: at least help get rid of some of the sealers.

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Speaker 6: And someone picked me up on the fact that I

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01:39:48,015 --> 01:39:50,495
Speaker 6: talked about new government. You're right, it's not really a

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01:39:50,535 --> 01:39:52,975
Speaker 6: new government. They've been in almost two years. But I

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Speaker 6: figure there are different lots of the last lots, so

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01:39:55,775 --> 01:39:57,895
Speaker 6: I'll call them the new ones. But I've got to

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01:39:57,935 --> 01:40:01,015
Speaker 6: come up with a better phrase than that. Radio. Let's

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Speaker 6: get into the garden arid climb. Past is going to

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Speaker 6: join us. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You

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Speaker 6: can ca continue to text rud Is next join us

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Speaker 6: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Good Squeaky door or squeaky floor. Get the right advice

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Speaker 1: from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder on news Talk SeeDB.

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