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Speaker 2: Morning and welcome to the new tourism numbers. We're still

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Speaker 2: bogged down. I'm a probe to telling you. Got a

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Speaker 2: new idea around local zoning. Got a new idea also

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Speaker 2: on how to run public private partnership. Steve Elkam living

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Speaker 2: the dream on the Master's Circuit and winning it again,

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Speaker 2: Ron Liggle and Britain Forus. Joe McKenna joins us from Italien.

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Speaker 2: Hosking Moursday Morning six. Let's make it seven pass six

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Speaker 2: show we now. The Prime Minister told us yesterday on

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Speaker 2: the program that the abuse recompense package will be presented

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Speaker 2: in the first part of next year. This already, as

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Speaker 2: you've heard this week, upset over the time being taken.

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Speaker 2: The trouble with what we have here is it's entirely possible.

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Speaker 2: There are a few of any winners. All the obvious

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Speaker 2: questions that we can sit around and debate and we're

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Speaker 2: blue and the face have to be turned into reality.

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Speaker 2: A number has to be arrived at a check eventually

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Speaker 2: has to be written. It is based on precedent, is

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Speaker 2: it well, who would know? Is it based on new methodology?

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Speaker 2: Is it a combination of both. Given some people at

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Speaker 2: the apology called it a pr stunt and hollow. You

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Speaker 2: can see the sort of crowd they're playing to. And

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Speaker 2: the problem with the problem is there is little of

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Speaker 2: any room to push back too hard against people who

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Speaker 2: have had the most traumatic of circumstances thrust upon them.

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Speaker 2: Who are we to try and rationalize and put a

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Speaker 2: figure on what they have had to endure? But everything

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Speaker 2: comes down to money. That I think is probably the

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Speaker 2: starting point, because a lot of people don't like to

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Speaker 2: talk that frankly about things like that. Of course, they

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Speaker 2: like to dress things up in a high idea we

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Speaker 2: suggest more dignified manner. But when push comes to shove,

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Speaker 2: whether it be a court or a private settlement, or

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Speaker 2: righting a wrong or expressing an apology or regret, a

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Speaker 2: number is what does it or doesn't do it, as

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Speaker 2: the case may be. Also, the government will need to

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Speaker 2: take into account precedent, both past and setting one, and

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Speaker 2: our fiscal circumstances. Of course, the moment you plead poor

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Speaker 2: which we are it offers the possibility or thought that

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Speaker 2: more might have been coming if only we weren't talking

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Speaker 2: about this at the present point in time. Love to

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Speaker 2: pay you more, but times are tight. I mean, how

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Speaker 2: many of us have heard that one in the workplace

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Speaker 2: over the years, far less a Royal Commission rectification. To

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Speaker 2: this point, the impatient of not being further down the

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Speaker 2: track is understandable, but I think borders on being rude.

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Speaker 2: This government is taking on something others didn't touch and

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Speaker 2: all the baggage that comes with it. Part of the trick,

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Speaker 2: and I hope they get this right, is to enter

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Speaker 2: it with the best of intent, but to sit and

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Speaker 2: stick to parameters. They don't need to say it, but

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Speaker 2: a take it or leave it scenario is the only

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Speaker 2: way to bring closure. The treaty process shows what happens

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Speaker 2: when there is no end. So I guess all we

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Speaker 2: can do is wish them well. What news of the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety seven, All the censfer of power rolls on,

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Speaker 2: plenty of appointments made. The Trumps that arrive in Washington

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Speaker 2: to have a word with the troops.

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Speaker 3: It's got down very worried because they say, well next time,

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Speaker 3: and we go up even a fraction of.

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Speaker 2: What we went up.

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Speaker 4: You're going to win New York, You're going to win.

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Speaker 5: New Jersey, You're going to win places at Warring Winterborough,

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Speaker 5: California too.

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Speaker 2: And when they're loving it as legal team, as physics.

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Speaker 6: He's been very transparent and who's appointing he's been very transparent.

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Speaker 6: I think Elon Musk with what he's done with Twitter,

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Speaker 6: has been incredible for this election for the American people,

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Speaker 6: and I think we're excited to see what.

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Speaker 2: The new faces will be.

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Speaker 6: And yes, it will not be boring.

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Speaker 2: He is, of course there to make the president, which

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Speaker 2: won't be awkward at all. They rolled out the President's

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Speaker 7: Few senators I'm not going to name them, blocked our way.

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Speaker 8: But that wasn't the end.

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Speaker 9: This movement continues to gain momentum.

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Speaker 10: We must keep fighting for free community college.

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Speaker 2: In campaigning till the end. Couple of things in Britain,

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Speaker 2: one related to Trump actually as old mate Nigel Farage

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Speaker 11: Haws the time not come Prime Minister to prescribe what

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Speaker 11: is so obviously a terrorist organization. And in doing so,

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Speaker 11: maybe men some fences between this government and the incoming

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Speaker 2: Meantime, the new Health Secretary where Streeting. He's been giving

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Speaker 2: a speech on how he's reforming the NHS.

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Speaker 10: NHS not been able to meet its most important promises

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Speaker 10: to patients since twenty fifteen, A and E weights are

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Speaker 10: causing thousands of avoidable deaths. Fifty years of progress on

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Speaker 10: cardiovascular disease has gone into reverse. Three hundred and forty

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Speaker 10: five thousand people are waiting more than a year for

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Speaker 2: So he's got his work cut out. Book a prize time,

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Speaker 2: Samantha Harvey's you winning for a book called orbit All

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Speaker 2: This it was primarily for me, a book about the

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Speaker 2: Earth more than it is about space.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to write about both.

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Speaker 13: Extraordinary miraculous beauty of the Earth, but also try to

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Speaker 13: find a new vantage.

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Speaker 5: Point on it.

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Speaker 2: Finally, speaking of prizes, People Magazine sixties Men of the

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Speaker 2: year's been named. How about I know, how about John Krasinski.

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Speaker 2: He's been in the office of course The Quiet Place

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Speaker 2: of Patrick gim So you won it last year ender

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Speaker 2: me who won at the year before. Here's the world.

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Speaker 2: Increased inflation in America, nothing to be worried about. They

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Speaker 2: Zippy hasn't all gone Trump's way today? John Thune has

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Speaker 2: just been announced as the Senate Majority Leader. Rick Scott

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Speaker 2: So John Thune just announced as the Senate Majority leader.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past She's just got dad is my wealth? Andrew Kella,

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Speaker 2: good morning, very very good morning. Right all right, so

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Speaker 2: too science of the immigration, those of us who are

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Speaker 14: forces or the drivers that are going to give us

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Speaker 14: some growth into the economy this year, you do have

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Speaker 14: But the takeaway for everyone today is that momentum is slowing,

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Speaker 14: that force is turning. So we've got the latest migration numbers.

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Speaker 14: Peak migration that was from sort of round the middle

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Speaker 14: That's when we're going gangbusters on the people. At its peak,

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Speaker 14: the twelvemonth running total was one hundred and thirty six

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Speaker 14: city roughly the size of Dunedin in a twelvemonth period. Now,

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Speaker 14: latest numbers release show that the permanent long term migration

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Speaker 14: New Zealand citizens. There's everyone. One hundred and seventy eight

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Speaker 14: Zealanders at the moment, Mike are voting with their feet. Now,

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Speaker 14: and as the economists are pointing out, Mike, if these

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Speaker 14: And the tourism arms, I think you've talked about them.

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Speaker 2: It's all a bit depressent. And when we go to

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Speaker 2: Australia the wages are better or although I know moderating.

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Speaker 14: They are moderating. So yeah, just looking at that data overnight.

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Speaker 14: You just talked about that USCPI. That probably lifts the

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Speaker 14: probability of a twenty five bases cutting the Fed funds

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Speaker 14: labor market in Australia is quite resilient, but what's happening

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Speaker 14: that has fallen from four point one percent the previous quarter,

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Speaker 14: so both results a little under expectations. Bottom line those

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Speaker 14: that wage growth is moderating across the Tasman. The moderation

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Speaker 14: is broad based. There's still Mike affair bit of debate

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Speaker 14: and uncertainty. However, when the RBA in Australian Central Bank

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Speaker 14: this outcome probably supports the argument for a move lower sooner.

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Speaker 14: But the bigger picture, as I said, is that the

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Speaker 14: labor market is quite resilient. In inflation is only coming

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Speaker 14: down quite slowly, so we're still looking at early twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty five remove lower in the OSSI cashuck. Just by

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Speaker 14: our Q three numbers in New Zealand. Our wage growth

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Speaker 2: Well, that was a lot of nurses and doctors and

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 2: There'd be Mike, I know you like rocket Lab success

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Speaker 2: Do you honestly believe anybody, anywhere ever, is going to

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Speaker 13: You know, the current.

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Speaker 12: System has one of the lowest problem gamling rates in

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Speaker 2: Can you regulate? Can you regulate online gambling if it's

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Speaker 12: There's a lot of evidence that children are being very

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Speaker 12: But maybe that's the way to go. But just come

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Speaker 12: don't know whether you've read the cap that paper, but

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Speaker 12: there's going to be no commission paid to anybody that's

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Speaker 12: Section three of our Gambling Acts says that part of

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Speaker 13: We've got one of the lowest rates.

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Speaker 12: Of organized crime associated with gambling in New Zealand. You know,

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Speaker 2: When you say point two percent of the population. I

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Speaker 12: We want to get it down even low. But like

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Speaker 12: That's the money that goes to the Health's Department, which

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Speaker 2: Behave exactly Peter appreciated very much. Petter Dingate thrush into

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Speaker 2: and banning people. You know my views on that once

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Speaker 2: Talks B been a bit of a theme this week

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Speaker 2: on dairy and farming in general, and the news has

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Speaker 2: all been good. Fonterra's big AGM is today, of course,

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Speaker 2: nine dollars fifty midpoint at the moment, so we're all

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Speaker 2: going hallelujah. B and Z have crunched a couple of numbers.

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Speaker 2: They see the possibility of the futures market currently by

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Speaker 2: the way, since at nine seventy. They see the possibility

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Speaker 2: of ten bucks if things continue the way they are.

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Speaker 2: There's a rider. Things need to continue the way they are,

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Speaker 2: but if they do, they see ten bucks for the season.

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Speaker 2: So we'd take that all the day long.

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Speaker 8: Six forty five International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 8: Peace of mind for New Zealand business zilliban.

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Speaker 2: Jo mccanna, Good morning to you, good money mate. Now,

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk, he's involved now in the Albanian migrant debate.

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Speaker 2: How's that gone down?

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Speaker 9: Wow? This has provoked a massive outcry in Italy. Elon

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Speaker 9: Musk joined right wing leaders condemning Rome judges who have

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Speaker 9: tried to block a second batch of Meek migrants from

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Speaker 9: being detained in Albania, saying that these seven migrants, who

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Speaker 9: are citizens of Egypt and Bangladesh should be brought to Italy,

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Speaker 9: which they have been now. Now, Musk said on Twitter

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Speaker 9: today or X his I should say X. These judges

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Speaker 9: need to go And that's just provoked an amazing backlash.

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Speaker 9: Particularly notable here is a strong statement from the Italian

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Speaker 9: President Sogio Martarella, who used very diplomatic language today to

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Speaker 9: say Elon Musk, but out of Italian politics, he said,

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Speaker 9: Italy is a great democratic country and knows how to

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Speaker 9: take care of itself and doesn't expect this kind of

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Speaker 9: reaction from an ally.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be more where that came from.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 2: What interests me at the moment, Joe, is that this

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Speaker 2: whole French German thing, because they're arguing that with Ukraine

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Speaker 2: the funding of you need a strong Europe and France

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Speaker 2: and Germany a basket cases. So Trump rolls into town,

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Speaker 2: starts dictating terms on money and aid and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and they need a good, strong leader

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Speaker 2: in Europe who can match Trump, and they're suggesting it's Maloney,

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Speaker 2: given she's of an ideological slant towards him. Plus of

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Speaker 2: course she seems to be successful unlike France and German leaders.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's quite possible that she would step into that

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Speaker 9: vacuum because, as you said, Macrme and Schultz are looking

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Speaker 9: very weak at the moment, and she has a strong

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Speaker 9: relationship with Elon Musk, as we know, she has a

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Speaker 9: strong relationship with Donald Trump, and so it's going to

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Speaker 9: be very interesting to see how she exploits that situation

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Speaker 9: to try and carve out a different, more powerful role

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Speaker 9: for herself.

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Speaker 2: In Europetly, what's happening in Napoli, what's in Naples? The mafia?

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Speaker 2: Why are they killing these kids.

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure if we talked about this before, Mike,

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Speaker 9: but we've seen an increase in the teenage mafia murders,

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Speaker 9: adolescents killing each other on the streets. Some people call

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Speaker 9: them baby gangs. We've had three teenagers killed in the

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Speaker 9: last two weeks, including a nineteen year old who was

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Speaker 9: shot because he stepped on someone's designer trainers. So the

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Speaker 9: prosecutors are very concerned. They're actually calling for the army

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Speaker 9: to intervene. I don't know that that's really going to

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Speaker 9: solve the problem when you've got unemployment and what some

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Speaker 9: newspapers have called a wild West situation on the streets

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Speaker 9: of Naples.

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Speaker 2: Wow. And then we come to the Vatican. So tell

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Speaker 2: me about the bloke who's designing the new mascot, and

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Speaker 2: then I'll tell you about my concern at the Vatican

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Speaker 2: that I'm noticed over the weekend. So who's this bloke?

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Speaker 9: Well, as you know, we're gearing up for the Vatican

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Speaker 9: Jubilee celebrations in twenty twenty five. Simone Leno has been

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Speaker 9: asked to design a mascot, a little doll like figure

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Speaker 9: that is going to be the mascot for this year.

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Speaker 9: But apparently he has a backstory and he's previously worked

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Speaker 9: on designs for sex toys. So that's a slight embarrassment

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Speaker 9: for the Vatican.

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Speaker 2: I would say, okay, fair enough to So anyway, I'm

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Speaker 2: watching the Pope at the window right this last weekend, yep,

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, when are they painting it?

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Speaker 9: Adding the window?

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen it? Have you seen the shutters?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the state of the building? Do they

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Speaker 2: not keep it? I mean, what I know about maintenance,

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Speaker 2: Joe is if you let it go, you've got nothing

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Speaker 2: but trouble. Why why aren't they keeping it up? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they have a program of upkeep for the Vatican?

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Speaker 9: It is a symbol, isn't it. Well, they have spent

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Speaker 9: quite a bit on redoing parts of Saint Peter's Square.

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Speaker 9: They have re renovated recently the big altar inside Saint

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Speaker 9: Peter's Basilica. So maybe the funds have dried up. But

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Speaker 9: I'll check that out for you and come back to her.

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Speaker 2: You to be good, But have a look at the

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Speaker 2: pictures that the shutters and the windows are just in

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Speaker 2: dire dire need of a good sand and some painting.

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Speaker 17: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I'm to come back to me next week, will you

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Speaker 2: ex McKenna. She probably dreads coming on this progrium every

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Speaker 2: week with some random nut job she has to deal with,

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Speaker 2: poor woman. But have a look at it some time.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just before we leave Europe, Meta have

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Speaker 2: announced for the EU customer base that Facebook and Instagram

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Speaker 2: subscription fees are down by forty percent, So that to

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Speaker 2: a degree does indicate this is regulatory. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they've been forced into this, and it does indicate that

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Speaker 2: I suppose you can regulate these players, because of course

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Speaker 2: we're busy in this country trying to pass some sort

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Speaker 2: of potentially legislation to make them pay for news and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Various parts in the world at the moment are having

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Speaker 2: the same sort of problem. Somebody is suing somebody. I'll

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Speaker 2: come back to it in the moment, but somebody. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of angst, legally speaking, going on with the

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Speaker 2: social media. But anyway, they've debuted this ad free subscription

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Speaker 2: service with the EU due to an EU regulation intended

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Speaker 2: to clamp down on anti competitive practices by tech companies

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Speaker 2: after the regional regulators find the company four hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars for violating EU data privacy laws. So nine ninety

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Speaker 2: nine euros is down to five ninety nine for your

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Speaker 2: desktop user, twelve ninety nine drops to seven ninety nine

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Speaker 2: for iOS and Android users. The free option will also

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Speaker 2: see unskippable ads that are intended to quote provide value

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Speaker 2: to advertisers. So that's where that at. So they're getting

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Speaker 2: a better deal than we are. Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The make costing repers with huge.

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Speaker 16: Dogs they needs right.

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Speaker 2: Black Friday price may have done the work. Over half

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Speaker 2: of US are expected to take part over half fifty

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Speaker 2: one percent compared with thirty five percent last year. That's

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Speaker 2: a lot, isn't it. Forty eight percent are relying on

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Speaker 2: Black Friday sales to buy or replace something for the home,

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Speaker 2: Fifty one percent relying on the sales to afford Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Half of us buy treats for ourselves. Eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 2: four year olds they're they're in like a robber's dog.

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Speaker 2: Seventy two percent of them are taking part. Average New

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Speaker 2: Zealand is going to spend around six hundred dollars how's

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Speaker 2: that breakdownle it's the bloke says always spending more money

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy dollars compared with the women at

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Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty. Although I'm suspicious that that. Women

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Speaker 2: always say I know I won't spend much this year.

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Speaker 2: I no, no, no, nothing for me, and then that's

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Speaker 2: not true. Tech and Electronics thirty eight percent, Fashion and

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Speaker 2: clothing thirty five, household applants is twenty five. The advice

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Speaker 2: is still the same, it's not worth getting into debt

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Speaker 2: because a lot of them plan to buy now, pay

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Speaker 2: later twenty eight percent, plan to use a credit card

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Speaker 2: or overdraft twenty two percent. Actually, God Forbid saved up

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Speaker 2: for its light and good old days five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 5: Scad the ouse.

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Speaker 8: It's the fizz.

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Speaker 1: With business favor. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: My granddad used to say, if you haven't got the cash,

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Speaker 2: you can't afford it. Speaking of which, new report into

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australian retail workers things are Doer Market

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Speaker 2: Research Company Research Scape. It was taken in September, looks

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Speaker 2: at retail crime and hostile customers. Overall, more than half

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Speaker 2: of retail managers and staff surveyed said they were worried

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Speaker 2: about thieves and aggressive customer interactions. Thirty two percent they

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Speaker 2: were they're most worried about shoplifting and grab and runs.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to crime, seventy one percent worse shoplifters

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Speaker 2: fifty one percent hostile forty three percent grab and runs.

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Speaker 2: Twenty percent say they experienced organized retail crime groups. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: percent said they have been assaulted seventy percent, so they're

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Speaker 2: expecting to be understaffed for the holiday season. Thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent say they're extremely concerned and fearful for their personal

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Speaker 2: safety and are actually considering quitting to avoid interactions. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to you can actually do, fifty four percent

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Speaker 2: say they feel safeer wearing body cameras. People in retail

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Speaker 2: wear a body camera. Is the last time you were

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Speaker 2: in shop, you went, what's that? It's a body camera?

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Speaker 2: Because there are deterrent to aggressible criminal behavior. I don't

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Speaker 2: doubt that they work, as the people who know work

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Speaker 2: in the prisons. They seem to work, but I've not

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Speaker 2: seen anybody that works in retail wearing the body camera.

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Speaker 18: Well, we ran stories about supermarket workers wearing body cameras,

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Speaker 18: remember I do.

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Speaker 2: But apart from that, I've not seen anybody in retail

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Speaker 2: wearing body cameras. Okay too, Can I be honest, I'm

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Speaker 2: depressed this morning. I'm depressed about two things. One's this

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Speaker 2: tourism slash people leaving the country, but I've been depressed

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Speaker 2: about that before, so that's ongoing depression. And then I'm

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Speaker 2: depressed about these I'll give you the names of the schools,

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Speaker 2: these idiot schools that are sending their kids along to

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Speaker 2: the stupid protest. Anyway, I'll work through that and i'll

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Speaker 2: come back to you in a bri mood after the news.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show you can trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be only seven past seven, so new stats

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Speaker 2: around tourism that indicate we're still stuck well below COVID

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Speaker 2: arrival numbers, asb's assessment to suggest, there are very few

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Speaker 2: science things again to be improving anytime soon. Tourism New

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Speaker 2: Zealand CEO Rene de montche' is back with us. Morning

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Speaker 2: to you morning, Mike. I know you like to talk

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Speaker 2: it up and good on you for doing so. But

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Speaker 2: when you say three point two three million versus three

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Speaker 2: point nine, we are nowhere near where we need to be.

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Speaker 2: Why not.

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Speaker 16: Look, it's fear to say absolutely. You know, tourism recovery

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Speaker 16: and tourism attraction is a pretty competitive gain, right, Look,

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Speaker 16: an answer to your question, the biggest one that has

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Speaker 16: been slower as a market has been China. You know,

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Speaker 16: China itself has been quite late in lifting its own restrictions.

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Speaker 16: We've seen their economy be but lower. They have been

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Speaker 16: quite active at encouraging domestic spend. So that's probably the

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Speaker 16: main reason in terms of why we are behind. They

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Speaker 16: are where we were twenty nine team levels. But Mike,

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Speaker 16: I think it's also important to note, Look, if we

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Speaker 16: look at a year on year basis, actually we're growing

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Speaker 16: quite strongly seventeen percent holiday rivals twenty eight and actually

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Speaker 16: that what the data also shows us is that whilst

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Speaker 16: we're about eighty three percent of twenty nineteen levels, we're

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Speaker 16: at one hundred percent of the value when we look

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Speaker 16: at the year to June of this year. So that means, yes,

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Speaker 16: there are not the same volume of people good spend

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Speaker 16: per persons up.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so you're telling me we're getting the money back,

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Speaker 2: and we always did, we just doing it with fewer people.

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Speaker 2: If that's true, then that's fantastical. Let me ask you

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Speaker 2: about China though, because I get mixed reports. They did, yes, domestically,

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Speaker 2: but they're also a regional They're into Singapore and Indonesia

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Speaker 2: and all of those sort of places Korea. Is that true,

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Speaker 2: And if that's true, is that permanent? In other words,

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Speaker 2: they're never going to come back in the numbers they

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Speaker 2: used to be here.

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Speaker 13: No, we've seen that.

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Speaker 16: Look, there's a bit of short haul travel patterns that

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Speaker 16: come out of China, right so they will pick you know,

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Speaker 16: when their own restrictions lifted, as expected, the predictable shorter

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Speaker 16: haul markets were the first to recover, so that includes

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Speaker 16: their own domestic places like Hong Kong, but also going

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Speaker 16: into Singapore, and then long haul has recovered kind of

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Speaker 16: after that. But certainly that's been a slower recovery than

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Speaker 16: we had expected, you know, and it's a part of

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Speaker 16: the economy. It's also a bit changing travel patterns.

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Speaker 3: Having said that, I.

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Speaker 16: Think the outlook for the summer it is pretty strong

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Speaker 16: also out of China. So if you look at yes,

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Speaker 16: we're still behind twenty nineteen levels, but in the last

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Speaker 16: few months we've seen an acceleration of that growth rate,

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Speaker 16: in fact over the winter months, so we're back up

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Speaker 16: to about seventy five percent of pre COVID level.

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Speaker 2: About that transseasonal thing you're giving a crack, is that working?

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Speaker 16: We've just started and we certainly had some really good

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Speaker 16: results out of this first winter where we promoted, particularly

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Speaker 16: in Australia and China, and we saw actually the July

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Speaker 16: August months both so Australia was up about sixteen percent

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Speaker 16: back at one hundred percent of twenty nineteen levels. China

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Speaker 16: was up four fifty two percent, back at about three

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Speaker 16: quarters of pre COVID level. So we've seen some good

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Speaker 16: green shoots in that. But absolutely that's our focus for

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Speaker 16: the future. Actually, how do we grow the sector by

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Speaker 16: five billion dollars But really importantly seventy percent of that

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Speaker 16: we want to come between March and November because that

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Speaker 16: was a sort of stubborn time a year where it's

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Speaker 16: pretty tough for tourism operators.

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Speaker 2: Always, as always, I wish you were with that. Rene

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Speaker 2: de Monte, who is with Tourism New Zealand he is

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Speaker 2: the boss. I'll crunt you through a couple of the

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Speaker 2: numbers later if we get time ten minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: last get because I'm sort of confused to around capacity.

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Speaker 2: There suggest capacity is back, but the planes aren't full,

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Speaker 2: so that's the demand thing. And then you come to Japan,

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Speaker 2: which I told you earlier on this week. They are

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Speaker 2: welcoming in Japan the same number of people in a

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Speaker 2: month that we welcome in a year, three million. It's incredible, right,

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Speaker 2: got an idea around land zoning, So what would happen

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Speaker 2: of local streets and neighborhoods. We're given the choice of

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Speaker 2: what's allowed to be built and where Texas does it?

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Speaker 2: Houston are their claiming success so much so that housing's

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Speaker 2: becoming more accessible and more affordable. How does this work?

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Speaker 2: The Maximum Institute researcher Thomas Scrimser is, Well, it's Thomas,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Mike, Hey did very well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, how locals local? Is it a street, is it

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Speaker 2: a block, is it a neighborhood, is it a community?

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Speaker 2: How do they work that out?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so there's a bit of a variety in how

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Speaker 19: they work it out, depending on the kinds of neighborhoods

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Speaker 19: that were already there in the city. But it's crucial

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Speaker 19: to kind of point out this isn't something they've done recently.

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Speaker 19: This goes back to nineteen ninety eight. They were trying

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Speaker 19: to get smaller lot sizes. Specifically, you know, they had

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Speaker 19: these big, sprawling, suburban, massive American houses and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 19: we're going to identify people need to be able to

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Speaker 19: build smaller. So back in nineteen ninety eight they shrunk

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Speaker 19: the minimum lot size, but different streets or subdivisions could

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Speaker 19: opt out. But that means that people actually signed up

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Speaker 19: to it and they got twenty five thousands more houses

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Speaker 19: out of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that you'd have to agree that you want

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Speaker 2: twenty five thousand more houses. What about the overarching stuff

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Speaker 2: that councils can't keep their noses out of far lest governments.

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Speaker 2: How do they deal with that?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 19: I think you kind of have to start by assuming, Mike,

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Speaker 19: that the people at local council don't always know what's best.

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Speaker 19: You know, you might be able to get on board

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Speaker 19: with that, but really, you know, the standard things councils do,

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Speaker 19: councils have to do. But in terms of should we

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Speaker 19: have more houses in this neighborhood or on this street.

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Speaker 19: Streets could be able to sign up for that themselves.

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Speaker 19: In Houston, what they did is say we're getting more houses,

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Speaker 19: but streets can opt out with a sixty percent supermajority,

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Speaker 19: and it expires after twenty five years and you'd have

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Speaker 19: to go sign up again. So there's a bias in

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Speaker 19: favor of more housing, but the most committed opponents could

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Speaker 19: opt out of it.

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Speaker 2: What's literally the mechanism as a member of that community,

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Speaker 2: Do I have to attend these meetings and go number

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Speaker 2: forty seven here, I vote for X? Is that literally

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Speaker 2: how it works? Everyone's actually involved in the process.

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Speaker 19: I think what it'd be is simply did bea petition

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Speaker 19: voting format where you could have a few committed people

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Speaker 19: who go and sit in the meetings, but if you

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Speaker 19: get the signatures of people in the community, that's enough

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Speaker 19: years or no. So a few diehards have to do

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Speaker 19: the shoe leather politics and go in doorknock get to

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Speaker 19: know their neighbors, but most people don't have to attend

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Speaker 19: the meeting.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, good to talk to you, Thomas Thomas Scrimsher, who's

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Speaker 2: with the maxim Institute. Have a look at Houston if

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Speaker 2: you want to see how they do it. Thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven pasking like, honestly, when was the last time

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Speaker 2: you're in a retail shop? You don't leave your house.

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Speaker 2: It's a very very good point. We were laughing at

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Speaker 2: that during the news when I said I've never seen

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Speaker 2: anybody in retail. I actually should have stopped at that

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Speaker 2: point because I've never seen anybody in retail because I

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Speaker 2: don't go into shops. I do have rental news for you.

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Speaker 2: It's not good unless you're a landlord. It is if

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Speaker 2: your landlord, it's good. If you're a person who's paying

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Speaker 2: the rent, it's not. We've had a lull in terms

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Speaker 2: of rental prices, but the stats out this morning they're

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Speaker 2: up for October zero point eight percent. For the month

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Speaker 2: of September, Marlborough through the roof up six and a

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Speaker 2: half percent. Up there thirty five bucks, Taranaki up one

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Speaker 2: point seven percent. Why Cattle up one point seven percent

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Speaker 2: as well. Bay have Plenty has overtaken Auckland is the

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Speaker 2: most expensive place to live in the country rental wise

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Speaker 2: six't eighty, which is up another five bucks. Northlands crashed

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Speaker 2: Biggus decrease fell forty bucks, which is six point one

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Speaker 2: percent on the month fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Mike ir believed an announcement on the moojor revel gas

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Speaker 2: and vector on Gas is out from the Commerce Commission

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Speaker 2: tomorrow will be big changes for the gas industry. Well,

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Speaker 2: it depends on what they say, obviously, but you are correct.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is decision day seventeen past seven. So we tick

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Speaker 2: the trotting cup box, didn't we? And the cup is

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Speaker 2: held in Show Week and Show Week in christ which

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Speaker 2: is one of the country's great get togethers. Of course,

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Speaker 2: while it has been until lately. The one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty second edition of the Canterbury Amp Show opens today

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Speaker 2: slim down format. The Amp Association Chairman of course, Sir

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Speaker 2: David Carter's back with us. David Morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Has it got a fizz about it? Do you think

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Speaker 2: you've got something here or not?

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Speaker 3: We've resurrected the show. We've only been in the job

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Speaker 3: for ninety eight days, so we've managed to get a

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Speaker 3: show up and operating for this year. The focus is

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Speaker 3: on sustainability of this event into the future. So while

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Speaker 3: we've got a show for people to enjoy this year,

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Speaker 3: my focus is still on making sure that it runs

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Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven and onwards for the

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Speaker 3: next one hundred and sixty two years.

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Speaker 2: So if you build it, will they come? Do you

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Speaker 2: think they'll come?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think they will. I think the interest has

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Speaker 3: been great. Certainly. We've said to the members of the association,

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Speaker 3: We've said to the exhibitors and the trade sites, if

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Speaker 3: you want the show to last, you've got to be

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Speaker 3: part of the solution. And we've had tremendous response. You know,

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Speaker 3: six hundred sheep entries, we've got beef cattle, we've got

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Speaker 3: cat the dairy cattle, we've got the horses there in

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Speaker 3: large numbers. So people are key to support it. They

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Speaker 3: were aghast to think we might have had show week

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Speaker 3: without a show. We've managed to turn it around.

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Speaker 2: How different will it look.

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Speaker 3: It'll be slightly reduced on what we've had in other years,

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Speaker 3: but only slightly to be fair. Some of the big sponsors,

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Speaker 3: you know, the meat companies Alliance silver Fern said, well,

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Speaker 3: you told us it was off.

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Speaker 2: It's too late.

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Speaker 3: Now for us to come back, and I understand that,

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Speaker 3: except that they have all agreed that we will have

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Speaker 3: them back next year, so this year will be slightly small.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the public will greatly notice it.

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Speaker 2: So basically what you're telling us for people around the country,

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Speaker 2: you haven't followed. This was it the way it was

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Speaker 2: run to the problem. The show's not the problem. People's

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Speaker 2: interest isn't the problem. It was the way it was run.

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Speaker 5: Yes it was.

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Speaker 3: It got to the stage when there were arguments between

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Speaker 3: the then board the General Committee, which are the people

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Speaker 3: who really make the show work, personality classes. We've moved

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Speaker 3: past that. We don't want to continue to look backwards.

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Speaker 3: We've now got complete cooperation from people all wanting to

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Speaker 3: make sure the show survives, and we've got ourselves into

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Speaker 3: a financially strong position.

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Speaker 2: Good, you still got your cattle.

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Speaker 3: I don't show cattle myself personally. I'm going in there

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Speaker 3: shortly to or assist, but no, once I entered Parliament

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Speaker 3: it was pretty hard to be a pedigree stud breeder

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk, go well with it, David Carter, Can

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Speaker 2: it be AMP Association chairman. We'll talk about the treaty

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Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments in some of the

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Speaker 2: schools that are going to be Shall we get into

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Speaker 2: the business of the numbers yesterday? I mean a lot

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Speaker 2: of you are interested in that, the people walking across

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Speaker 2: the Harbor Bridge. First of all, my concerned about the

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Speaker 2: media coverage of this. It's not it is a circus,

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Speaker 2: but it's not a circus. It's not a traveling festival

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Speaker 2: to be covered. It's day one, Day two, day three.

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Speaker 2: Is the media coverage. It's it's not a telephone. It's

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Speaker 2: just a protest and the protest started. It will eventually

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Speaker 2: reach its conclusion after day whatever it is, and nothing

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Speaker 2: particularly will happen. A large group will gather in the

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Speaker 2: Parliament grounds and they'll cover that, and that's fine. There's

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Speaker 2: anohing wrong with covering it. But it's taken on a

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Speaker 2: festival type dynamic, which yet again does not serve the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand media well. But more than just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments.

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Speaker 2: is owned by its members. They proudly keep the profits

869
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: here in the country, which we love. So when you

870
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: bank with them, you're helping grow the country, which we

871
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: also love. Not to mention the award winning Canstar's Bank

872
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: of the Year for First Home Buyers twenty twenty two,

873
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four helping New Zealand's newest

874
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: endangered species kiwis trying to buy their first home and

875
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: they haven't forgotten. The investors don't worry about that. They've

876
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: got highly competitive rates for investments as well. So if

877
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: you're in the market for a home loan, or have

878
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: money that you want to invest for great returns, or

879
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: maybe you just want to move to a bank with

880
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: a bitter heart, you search SBS Bank and find out

881
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: moresk Now seven twenty three Treaty Principles build that gets

882
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: debated today, then off it goes to the committee that

883
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: will hear a lot of fearmongering and winging about how

884
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: it's the end of the world that it will come

885
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: back to Parliament, a vote will be had, it won't

886
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: get the numbers, it'll be dead. This is unusual. Governments

887
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: normally put bills in they know are going to pass.

888
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: And so here is why it ties into Trump's victory

889
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: last week. Trump won because he is the repository for grievance.

890
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: If you don't like the left, you vote for what's

891
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: not the left, because you've only got a choice of two.

892
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: Under MMP, you got more choices. We've taken a lot

893
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: of time to work that out, but as MMP matures,

894
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: we are reaching a place where more parties will establish

895
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: themselves as ongoing contributors to the system, as opposed to

896
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: being seen as fringe and on the verge of survival.

897
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Especially helpful will be this government if it performs well

898
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: as a group, gets re elected and possibly goes for

899
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: a third term, it will show three parties can coalesce

900
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: agree to disagree while remaining separate and independent. The Greens

901
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: have already arrived at this place of course, they are

902
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: a permanent fixture on the landscape. They don'tdabble with the

903
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: five percent margins anymore. The point here is, as a result,

904
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: the big parties will shed sup bought. The days of

905
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: national being forty five ish percent that gone because parties

906
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: like ACT in New Zealand first look to head towards

907
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: ten percent, if not more. The Treaty Bill might well

908
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: be act's ride to permanence, the same way that Trump

909
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: hoovered up blacks and Hispanics who were sick of being

910
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: treated like a block and not individuals. ACT could hoover

911
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: up New Zealanders sick of raced based policy if NATS

912
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: the NATS don't or won't deal with it, ACT can

913
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: In an MMP environment, Trump would not have stood a chance,

914
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: of course, but their system is less sophisticated than ours.

915
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: Choice is good. It gets over represented though in jurisdictions

916
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: where the threshold is too low, because you end up

917
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: with single issue nutters. But at about five percent, it

918
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: looks like we've picked it right. You can be small

919
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: without being too fringe. Hopefully, ACT in New Zealand first

920
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: break the MMP who do where small parties vanish in

921
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: government because there are enough specific issues and enough electoral

922
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: confidence four parties to state claims and build support. Big

923
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: parties no longer have to be everything to everyone. If

924
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 2: this is an emerging trend, MMP proper will have arrived

925
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: and we will be all the better for it. Pasking

926
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: just on those tourism numbers they put out completely separately yesterday,

927
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Airport's Association, what it means to have

928
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: plans land in the country. Twenty seven billion is what

929
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: it's worth of the country. Planes landing. Every international flight's

930
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: worth one point four billion in value, forty two direct

931
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: international connections, nine point three million international travelers a year.

932
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: We're now back to being the biggest second biggest export

933
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: earner for the country at twenty six and a half billion,

934
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: twenty six and a half billion, by the way, in

935
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: cargo value alone North America. And this is where it

936
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: gets interesting with seat capacity. When they talk about seat capacity,

937
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: North American market boomed last summer. Economic impact of every

938
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: American flights above average seat capacity at nine hundred and

939
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: twenty thousand. That's up thirty six percent on pre COVID,

940
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: So we're back there, but nearly a third of the

941
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: seats are empty on the US route, So just because

942
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: you've got seats doesn't mean they're filled. Eight and a

943
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: half million domestic passenger movements a year. That's worth three

944
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: point six billion to the economic activity, and that supports

945
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: sixty thousand jobs. So there's a lot of good news

946
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: to be told around tourism in general and flight movement

947
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But you simply can't

948
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: hide and nor should we, from the fact we're not

949
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: as good as we used to be, and somebody better

950
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: be working pretty bloody hard to work out why not.

951
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: PPP's public private partnerships. We've been trying them, haven't been

952
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: very good at them. So we've got a new framework.

953
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: We'll work you through the detail after the news, which

954
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: is next the.

955
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Speaker 1: Big News, Bold Opinions, The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vita,

956
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News, togs Head b BL.

957
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: Jeff was one of the nicest people you'll ever meet,

958
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: and in the Master's Tour these days, he's discovered this

959
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: whole new life where he is a winner basically, and

960
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: he won the Schwab Cup the other day, which is

961
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: basically the tour. So in other words, you do really

962
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: rather than the individual tournaments throughout the year, which you did,

963
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: and if you do better than anybody else, you'd win

964
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: the whole tour, which you did. So we'll have to

965
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: catch up with them after rat plage this morning. Meantime,

966
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from it, you can hold the

967
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: presses because the government has released a new framework for

968
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: public private partnerships and the Labor Party is on board

969
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: with it. So some rare cross party cooperation we seem

970
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 2: to have here in trouble with PPPs is we haven't

971
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: been very good at them. In fifteen years. We've entered

972
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: into eight apparently there's been three prisons, three schools and

973
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: two roads. Infrastructure Minister christ Bishop is with us. Very

974
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: good morning to you come on it. The relevance of

975
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: having Labor on board how significant?

976
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 17: Oh like I to be honest, I'm really pleased, bite

977
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 17: a bit surprised, but I am pleased by it. I'm

978
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 17: trying to build greater by partisanship around infrastructure because that's

979
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 17: what the country desperately needs and it's the feedback from

980
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 17: the market, both international and domestic.

981
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 13: They say, you just got to get a bit of.

982
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 5: Consensus on the stuff.

983
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 14: So had a bit of a shift for Labor.

984
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 17: They didn't do any PPPs for six years. They basically,

985
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 17: you know, the reason, one of the reasons why we've

986
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 17: had to update the model and the frameworkers that they

987
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 17: didn't do any and the market lost all confidence in it.

988
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 17: And I been developing the Steady and National Infrastructure Plan,

989
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 17: which has been done by the Infrastructure Commission, and as

990
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 17: part of that, I've been meeting with Labor and the

991
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 17: Greens actually around the development of that plan because I

992
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 17: want to get some buy in from them as to

993
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 17: the long term vision, and Labor expressed interest in being

994
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 17: briefed on the PPP model and the work we were doing,

995
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 17: so we made that happen and then they offered to

996
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 17: write a full worth and we've accepted. And I think

997
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 17: it all downed quite well with the market because it

998
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 17: gives a sense that the government changes, which hopefully it won't,

999
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 17: but if it does, then you know there's a bit

1000
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 17: of stability. So if someone signed the contract, I'm just

1001
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 17: going to be torn up.

1002
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: That's a good, big, good stuff. Why are we no

1003
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: good at them?

1004
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 13: Well, we're not good at them because over the l.

1005
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 17: I would argue that we haven't developed sufficient expertise inside

1006
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 17: the Crown to make sure that the government is a

1007
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 17: good client on our side of it. And that's one

1008
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 17: of the things we're changing with the development of this

1009
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 17: new National Infrastructure Agency that will start life and two

1010
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 17: and a half weeks first December. We're going to buy

1011
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 17: in and attract really top class talent so that when

1012
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 17: the Crown engaged is in public private partnerships, we get

1013
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 17: the contracting really.

1014
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 16: Really really right.

1015
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 13: And that involves expertise.

1016
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 17: And talent to make sure the resources there.

1017
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 13: So we're going to do that.

1018
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: Okay, is this just is a public private partnership? Just

1019
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: the money? So whenever I talk to Luxon about this,

1020
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: it's all these equity funds and metservices have got billions

1021
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: of dollars ready to roll. It's just the money or

1022
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: is it more than that?

1023
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 17: It's a delivery method. It's basically a procurement method and

1024
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 17: what it is is it's a twenty five or thirty

1025
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 17: year contract for the delivery of approaching. But the critical

1026
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 17: thing about a BPP that goes with the ongoing maintenance

1027
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 17: in the asset management, and that's what we're really bad

1028
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 17: at in New Zealand.

1029
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: And.

1030
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 17: If you take the school PTPs. For example, Labor despite

1031
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 17: being opposed to school PTPs, quietly rolled them over and

1032
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 17: actually extended the contracts of some of them when they

1033
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 17: are in government because that's been so successful. With the schools,

1034
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 17: a private partner comes along and builds the school and

1035
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 17: then rather than just building something and handing it over

1036
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 17: to the ministry or the school to maintain, which you know,

1037
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 17: I think anyone listening will know from our school property experience,

1038
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 17: the government has done really badly. It's while we have

1039
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 17: rotten school buildings all over the country, in a PPP

1040
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 17: deliverer of the project and maintains it for twenty five

1041
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 17: thirty years. Now we pay for that, so there's an

1042
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 17: ongoing maintenance, but that's built into the contract, and there's

1043
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 17: an availability payment and a maintenance payment and all of

1044
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 17: those things. But they have to maintain it to specified

1045
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 17: performance standards. And anyone who visits the PPP schools that

1046
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 17: we have out there now will know that they're really

1047
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 17: well maintained. They're very high quality schools. And so you

1048
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 17: get what you're paid for, and of you get private

1049
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 17: set to innovation and expertise around that rather than having

1050
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 17: random people at the Ministry education to it.

1051
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: Is there still an ideological hurdle to get over because

1052
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: of course they're clipping the ticket, there's money to be

1053
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: made from it because they're not doing it for charity.

1054
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: Is there an ideological hurdle still in this country? You've

1055
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: still got to convince people that that is a model

1056
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: that works despite the fact that they are clipping the

1057
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: ticket and you're sort of privatizing. What's going on?

1058
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 17: Well, I think I think there's a bit of a

1059
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 17: myths about TPPS in the sense that a lot of

1060
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 17: people think it's the privatization of things.

1061
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: It's not.

1062
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 17: It's a delivery method. So the ownership of the asset,

1063
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 17: the public asset, remain remains with the crown. This is

1064
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 17: not privatization of of things that the government builds. This

1065
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 17: is this is actually who does the building and who

1066
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 17: does the financing for it, which is just a very

1067
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 17: but all of it, at the end of the day

1068
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 17: is Crown money and Crown debt and it sits on

1069
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 17: our balance sheet and we have we're we're the owner

1070
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 17: of the asset at the end.

1071
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: Of the day.

1072
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 17: So if you missed out there about it, this is

1073
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 17: just a project delivery method. And a procurement method and

1074
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 17: it's what you know every other OECD country does. So

1075
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 17: you know we're well behind the eight ball when it

1076
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 17: comes to the stuff and that's one of the reasons

1077
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 17: why our infrastructure is in the poor state that it is.

1078
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 17: So this is about bringing New Zealand up to speck

1079
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 17: on what other countries. So updating the model and reflecting

1080
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 17: that we haven't done aneath for six years and the

1081
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 17: model was last developed in twenty eleven. Putting it out

1082
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 17: there to the market. We've got a for word from

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Speaker 17: the PM and me and a Labor Party for word

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Speaker 17: as well. It's the market facing document and there's been

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Speaker 17: a lot of interest in it's been developed in construction

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Speaker 17: in conjunction with the infrastructure sector. So I think it's

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Speaker 17: a good step forward.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff man. Nice to talk Chris Bishop infrastructure and

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Speaker 2: with us this morning, eighteen minutes away from eight pask camera.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of infrastructure, they did have a plan to have

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Speaker 2: eight hundred cameras speed cameras on our state highway network.

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Speaker 2: They've cut that back to two hundred and fifty. The

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Speaker 2: eight hundred was going to cost two and a half

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, which struck us as an astonishing amount of

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Speaker 2: money for cameras. You get a camera, you tap it

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Speaker 2: onto a lamppost. Bob's your uncle right. Wrong. So they've

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Speaker 2: cut it back and they think it'll come down bill

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Speaker 2: wise to one point sixty seven seven billion dollars, which

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Speaker 2: still we've worked it out to be two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty cameras over twenty years, one point six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: We've worked it out to be three hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a year for a camera. Three hundred thousand dollars a

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Speaker 2: year per camera. What's the camera doing. It's doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: I mean you might have to come along with a

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Speaker 2: cloth and wipe the lens periodically. You might have a

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Speaker 2: sort of a maintenance program. You have to scramble up

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Speaker 2: a ladder or something. I don't know, but three hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year for each and every camera. There's

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Speaker 2: something not right about those numbers. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from it if you missed the

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Speaker 2: news earlier on John Thune's your new Senate majority leader.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about that is his name is not

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Speaker 2: Rick Scott. Rick Scott's the Trumper and Elon was campaigning

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson was campaigning hard out as the bloke they

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Speaker 2: needed to push the Trump agenda through Thoon, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: And yet he wins? And here he is.

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Speaker 7: We'll make sure that the President and his team have

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Speaker 7: the tools and support that they need to enforce border

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Speaker 7: security laws and to remove the violent criminals who are

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Speaker 7: wreaking havoc in everyone our stays.

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Speaker 4: We will work to make.

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Speaker 7: America prosperous again by streamlining the bureaucratic machine and overturning

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Speaker 7: costly Biden harrised regulations. And we will work to restore

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Speaker 7: American energy dominance, not just our energy security, but energy

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Speaker 7: dominance which will lower costs and bolster our national security.

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Speaker 2: Cosky, Well, you're saying the right things for now anyway.

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Speaker 2: So as regards to the protest in Wellington, we've got

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Speaker 2: the South Wellington Intermediate School writing to parents saying the

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Speaker 2: board and school support the hiccoy. What possible connection is

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Speaker 2: there between a school and a protest that they feel

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Speaker 2: that they've got the right to go, We as a

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Speaker 2: school and a board support it. If you intend to

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Speaker 2: go to the hiccoy with your children. Please let the

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Speaker 2: school know their absence will be recorded as justified. It

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Speaker 2: gets worse the nine NI Primary School. We have decided

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Speaker 2: that we will attend as a school Tuesday, nineteenth of November.

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Speaker 2: This coproper will be history making? In what way? Have

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Speaker 2: they never seen a protest before? Is this the first protest?

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Speaker 2: What is the outworking of this protest that will be

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Speaker 2: different from any other protest on any given day. People

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Speaker 2: have walked from point A to point B, driven a

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Speaker 2: lot of it. But for the cameras walked from point

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Speaker 2: A to point B, they get to point B, they

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Speaker 2: go We are here to fill in the blanks and

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Speaker 2: then they will go home. In what way is that

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Speaker 2: history making? What will occur as a direct result of

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Speaker 2: that protest? Answer obviously is nothing, So how is it

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Speaker 2: history making? The whole school will travel by train, good

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Speaker 2: luck with that from nine I train station to Wellington permission.

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Speaker 2: Slips will be acceptable on the accessible rather accessible on

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Speaker 2: the school loop. Ap get your flags, voice and walking

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Speaker 2: shoes ready, and you wonder why we've got problems. David Seymour,

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Speaker 2: who's been thrashed about the place with us, watched them

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Speaker 2: in the house yesterday's defending himself. Well, but my god,

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Speaker 2: it must be hard work. At the moment he says

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Speaker 2: students will be disadvantaged by missing valuable learning time. It's

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Speaker 2: sort of not really quite as strong as he should be.

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Speaker 2: What he should be doing is make it fast, stronger

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Speaker 2: statement than that. But nevertheless, that's the sort of pushback

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Speaker 2: you're getting. This will be history making when you're brainwashed

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Speaker 2: and misled to that extent. What hope our next generation

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Speaker 2: it's in away from it?

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Speaker 1: My costkil breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities news dogs had.

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Speaker 2: Been seven away from eight night, one of three for Coldplay.

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Speaker 2: They claim over one hundred and fifty thousand they're going

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Speaker 2: to go through the gates by the time it's over.

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Speaker 2: Not dissimilar number to the the protest over the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 2: I was hearing last night on the news they had

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Speaker 2: everything from five thousand to eight hundred and fifty thousand. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: it'd be afternoons as Matt Heath was there and he's

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Speaker 2: with us. Matt morning, good morning. Did you have any

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Speaker 2: of the beads and the glasses? Were you wearing your glasses?

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Speaker 13: The three days I put the three d glasses on

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Speaker 13: and it created love hearts out of the lights. It

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Speaker 13: was quite spectacular. They also handed out a wrist band

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Speaker 13: that flashed and was geer located so it would make

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Speaker 13: words in the crowd like believe in love and such.

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Speaker 13: It was pretty. It was incredible. Actually, the tech was spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Did you dance on the dance floor to generate the

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Speaker 2: power for the concert?

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Speaker 13: I didn't generate any power. My carb and footprint of

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Speaker 13: the concert was huge.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I didn't help anything at all. But there were

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Speaker 13: fireworks as well, so hopefully people were jumping up and

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Speaker 13: down enough to offset those.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get your credential sort of for a concert reviewer.

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Speaker 2: What is your concert experience? How many concerts you reckon?

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Speaker 2: You've been to? Roughly?

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Speaker 13: I think I've been just thousands of confer all over

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Speaker 13: the world. I think more than most.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got good cred How many times have

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Speaker 2: you seen Coldplay?

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Speaker 13: One time? Last night was the first time I ever

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Speaker 13: stand Yeah.

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Speaker 2: J you know Jason yep. He says he's seen them

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Speaker 2: six times.

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Speaker 13: Six times all around the world or in New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: How many times they've been to New Zealm? Not sure?

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Speaker 2: Good question. As a concert. Then from your thousands of

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Speaker 2: concerts you've gone to, where would you rank this one

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Speaker 2: having seen them for the first time.

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Speaker 13: Look, before I went in there, you know, a new coldplayer,

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Speaker 13: but and I knew the songs, but I wasn't like

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Speaker 13: an album listener, go to set snower kind of thing.

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Speaker 13: And I always found Chris Martin flatly punishable, as you know,

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Speaker 13: a talented band, but there's sort of a punishable vibe

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Speaker 13: out of it around him. But after watching that concert,

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Speaker 13: I'd follow that guy into battle. He's one of the

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Speaker 13: greatest funt men I've ever seen. He's up there with

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Speaker 13: Freddy Mercury and mc jagger and people will be not

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Speaker 13: believe me until they feed this concert.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on when you say mc jagger, because I've

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Speaker 2: not seen Freddy Mercury. I've seen mc jagger. Mcjaggers not

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Speaker 2: when you say front man. I'm interested in the bloke

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Speaker 2: who talks to the audience. Mc jagger doesn't talk to

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Speaker 2: the audience, but he performs. He's a strutter. So that's

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Speaker 2: what you're referring to in Martin's case.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well yeah, I mean he's all dancing, all singing,

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Speaker 13: just the presence it's quite phenomenal. He owns the stadium.

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Speaker 13: You've got fifty thousand people there. But he owns a Coldplayer,

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Speaker 13: a band, and they write the songs together. But it

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Speaker 13: is all about It's all about Christ Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 13: mean great the bass players, phenomenal guy buriment, But yeah,

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Speaker 13: it's all about him. He owns the audience in part

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Speaker 13: of his hands, but also just as a purely put

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Speaker 13: together spectacle that the show is worth. Even if you

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Speaker 13: didn't like Coldplay's music, you could just go along and

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Speaker 13: marvel at the just how it's put together, how it's

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Speaker 13: front of the show, just the visual feast of.

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Speaker 2: It, all brilliant, average age of the audience, it was.

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Speaker 13: It was all all ages. It was a four quadrant crowd.

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Speaker 13: I'm very young to very old male female, it was,

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Speaker 13: it was, it was everyone, you know what it was.

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Speaker 13: It was a total feel good experience. I'm a cynical

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Speaker 13: guy at times, but I have just a huge smile

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Speaker 13: on my face and at one point even a tear

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Speaker 13: in my eyes.

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Speaker 2: WHOA would you go again?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 13: I would definitely go again. I absolutely would.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you probably got front of tickets. You probably got

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Speaker 2: you probably got free tickets. How much would you pay?

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Speaker 13: I was thinking about that, and I was also standing

1247
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Speaker 13: there thinking typical of me not to have paid. But

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Speaker 13: I think it would be worse. I don't know how

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Speaker 13: much the tickets are because I never paid for tickets.

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Speaker 13: I would say it would be worth it would be

1251
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Speaker 13: worth four hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think they were worth four hundred dollars, don't.

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Speaker 2: I never pay for tickets. He lives in a different

1254
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Speaker 2: world from US folks. Matt Heath with Coldplay used for

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Speaker 2: you in a couple of moments. Then we'll hit the

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Speaker 2: golf course with Steve Wilkom. You're a news talk zb.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and views. The mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue

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Speaker 1: and use, said.

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Speaker 2: Seven pass Gays. Steve Elka living the dream. Turning to

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Speaker 2: the Master's Tour has changed his life. Basically, he's been

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Speaker 2: able to literally he couldn't do as a part of

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Speaker 2: a younger age. He finished top of the PGA Champions

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Speaker 2: Tour for a second year. In a row Final tournament

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Speaker 2: earlier on this week in Phoenix, he finished second to

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Speaker 2: Bernard Langer. He's one of only seven players who have

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Speaker 2: ever won the overall title more than once. So he's

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Speaker 2: currently in Mexico for a three day pro emuies with

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Speaker 2: a Steve Morning.

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Speaker 4: Good Ronie, Mike, thanks for having me on, not at

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Speaker 4: all and.

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Speaker 2: War was congratulations on the season and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Does life feel good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: It does?

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Speaker 14: It does.

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Speaker 20: I mean, you know that obviously the Shwrob Cup it's

1278
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Speaker 20: a nice bonus at the end of the year to

1279
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Speaker 20: finish like that. Although I didn't win the golf tournament

1280
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Speaker 20: that that old guy beat us all, it feels good

1281
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 20: to have another Shrub Cup knowing that you know, you've.

1282
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Speaker 4: Had the consistency, You've play well for a whole year.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's feeling feeling good.

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Speaker 2: What is it about you, cannsistency? How do I've looked

1285
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Speaker 2: through your season and where you can't You're you're remarkably

1286
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Speaker 2: good at being right at the you know, at the

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Speaker 2: top of the end of the weekend. How do you

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Speaker 2: explain that?

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Speaker 4: It's just a number of things.

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Speaker 20: Obviously, you know, feeling feeling comfortable in the environment, and

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Speaker 20: you know when you have so many chances to win,

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Speaker 20: or you're in the top ten and you're kind of

1293
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 20: there or thereabouts. You know, it kind of it kind

1294
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Speaker 20: of wears on you, it gets it gets you know,

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 20: week in week out, you're you're you're right there. So

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 20: you've got to kind of manage that a little bit.

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01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 20: That those are two big things. But you know, just

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 20: just the fitness staying staying fit. You know, I'm getting

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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 20: older and just trying to stay on top of that,

1300
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 20: and and just keep the game in good shape.

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Speaker 4: Just keep doing the things that work for me. There's simple.

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 20: There's only you know, two or three things maybe that

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01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 20: consistently working on that keep my game.

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 4: In good shape. So as long as you look after

1305
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: those are all good.

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad you raise that because I watch you a bit.

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01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: You look, you're fifty three, Langer as an example of

1308
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: sixty seven, You've got a real you've got a real

1309
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: look and a flexibility about you like you work on

1310
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: it and you're in good shape. How does age fit

1311
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: into this? Because are you looking to be as you

1312
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: know good as you are now at sixty seven? I

1313
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: mean there must be chat on the chat, you know,

1314
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: there must be chat on the circuit about jeez, Bernard,

1315
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: you're a bit old whatever?

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01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean if I get to sixty,

1317
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 4: I'll be happy, you know what I mean.

1318
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 20: But I mean, he really is phenomenal, and I think

1319
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 20: it's just what gets me about Bernard Langer is just his.

1320
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: His drive to keep playing.

1321
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 20: And you know, he still thinks he can win. It's

1322
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 20: sixty seven and which he's doing, so, you know, to

1323
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 20: have that mentality and the drive to keep doing this

1324
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 20: day and day out, it really is phenomenal. So you

1325
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 20: know how long I can play, I don't know. It

1326
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 20: just staying fit is the biggest thing. And then you

1327
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 20: know from there the drive is it? How long is

1328
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 20: it going to be there? And I think, you know,

1329
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 20: if I'm just finishing fortieth to fiftieth in the field

1330
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 20: and not having a chance, then it's probably time to

1331
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 20: hang up the boots.

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: How competitive is it? I mean, so so Bernard wants

1334
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: to win, You want to win, but I mean, do

1335
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: you want to win it all costs or of all?

1336
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: You guys done enough in life, So you've taken it

1337
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: down a notch and we're actually there to have a

1338
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: bit of a good time as well.

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01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 20: It's it's still very competitive. I mean, you know, it's

1340
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 20: a different vibe out here. But when you get on

1341
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 20: the golf course and you get in the heat, and

1342
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 20: it gets it gets pretty serious, it really does. You know,

1343
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 20: guys want to win, and there's new guys, younger guys,

1344
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 20: and I say young at the fifty year old's coming

1345
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 20: out from the main tour or wherever. So you know,

1346
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 20: the competition is just going to get better and healthier

1347
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 20: and stronger. So you got to you got to stay

1348
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 20: on top of it, and you know, stay stay competitive.

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Speaker 4: Say fit, how hard do you that's my goal? Anyway?

1350
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: Of course, how hard do you work? On that side?

1351
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 4: What do you do?

1352
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: I mean you look like a guy does arties or yoga.

1353
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: You look flexible, like strong and flexible.

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 20: Yeah, just like a whole combination. I mean, you know,

1355
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 20: I changed my fitness program all the time. Every six

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 20: eight weeks. I'm I'm changing it up. I'm kind of

1357
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 20: assessing where I'm at, what the body is doing, and

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01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 20: then work around that. So that part of it's changed

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Speaker 20: a lot compared to how it was.

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Speaker 4: But no, I'm not a big pilarates.

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 20: Guy or yoga and I just I just you know,

1362
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 20: as long as I'm moving well, so you know, mobility, stability,

1363
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 20: and then and then the sprink factor, which is more

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Speaker 20: off season.

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Speaker 4: Those are three things that you just kind of keep

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Speaker 4: working on.

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Speaker 2: What about club head speed? Does that do you notice

1368
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: a change with age and time and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff or not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it catches up with you.

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Speaker 20: I mean I think Padrick Harrington is is exception to

1372
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 20: the rule. You know, there's two or three guys. VJ

1373
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 20: has always been, you know, a fast ring of a

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 20: club and retief goosen and as sure as things and

1375
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 20: new guys come out, there's four or five guys who

1376
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 20: have got that natural speed that they've always had. I mean,

1377
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 20: eventually they're going to lose it, but Padrag consistently works

1378
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 20: at it, and it's going to.

1379
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Speaker 4: Be tough on the body.

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Speaker 20: I mean, I'm not a big guy, so I don't

1381
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 20: focus so much on the speed aspect. I focus more

1382
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 20: on the deficiencies, shall we say, just to get the

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 20: job done and you know, working on the wedges and

1384
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 20: keeping them putting in shape. And but my IWN play

1385
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 20: and my efficiency of my game is kind of where

1386
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 20: where what I focus on?

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Speaker 4: You?

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01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, hold on, mate, I take a brain

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: come back with a a couple of minutes with more

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Speaker 2: from Steve Elka. It is twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talk.

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 2: Zippy GA champion Stebelka with us out of Mexico this morning.

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Speaker 2: By the way, with all the success of yours seventeen

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: sixteen past eight, by the way, with all the success

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: of yours, do they view you differently now? In other words,

1397
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: you're now a winner, so you're a guy to be feed.

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: Do they view that differently?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit?

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 20: And I hope so, Mike, you know, to have a

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 20: little bit of fair factor and there is always good

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 20: But I don't I don't see my side as a

1404
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 20: as a scary guy and someone who's going to like,

1405
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 20: you know, beat your brains out every week. But I

1406
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 20: think just you know, knowing that I'm there every week,

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 20: you know, I give myself a chance from the top

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 20: ten or top five or pushing pushing for for you know,

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 20: winn in a golf tournament. Then you know, people see

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 20: that every week, and you know, if you're getting a

1411
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 20: chance and a chance to win and they say your name,

1412
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 20: what's you know?

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: Hopefully it kind of does a little bit of that.

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 20: But I don't think too much about that I'm just

1415
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 20: trying to do my thing and you know, try and

1416
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 20: try and get a W at.

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: The end of the week.

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: How do you I don't know if you heard, but

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: Greg Turner was interviewed about you, and in typical Greg

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01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: Turner style, he said, basically, what you've done is taken

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: an average career, and I thought that was a bit harsh,

1422
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: an average career and turned it into something quite special.

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: Do you see it that way or how do you

1424
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: see it?

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, actually Turns has been kind of generous.

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 20: Actually, I don't even know if it's an average career,

1427
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 20: to be honest. You know, I didn't reach that level

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01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 20: that some players did in New zeal like a Frank

1429
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 20: Noble or or a great Turner or a Phil Tannery.

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01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: I never quite reached that level. So yeah, it's for me.

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: It's been a second chance at the champions. So that's

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: that's how I look at it.

1433
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 20: And you know, those don't come wrong very often, so

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 20: I feel very thankful for that and just trying to make.

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01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: The most of that second opportunity and just enjoy it

1436
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: at the same time, you.

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01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: Know, and can you as enjoyment and easier thing to

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01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: achieve when you're not young and going, God, I've got

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01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: a win to pay the bills.

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 20: Yeah, Well, you know, I was an interview yesterday and

1442
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 20: someone asked, you know, what's what's the difference, you know,

1443
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 20: or if you're younger, to go back and ask, you

1444
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 20: know what, what what would you do differently?

1445
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 4: And you know, I used to beat myself up a

1446
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: little bit, you know what I mean, just just trying

1447
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: to work on the game and get better.

1448
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 20: And I just think, you know, I don't do that

1449
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 20: as much now, So that's that's that's one big thing

1450
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 20: that that helps. You know, you're just just trying so

1451
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 20: hard to get better and support your family and things,

1452
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 20: and and you know I sometimes just try too hard

1453
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 20: and beat myself up.

1454
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 4: And I just don't tend to do that so much anymore.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: You know, I think I've matured. It's fifty you know.

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's what happens that without being too crass about it,

1457
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: the money must play effect. I mustn't it. At the

1458
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: end of the day, Once you don't need to play

1459
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: for money, surely the shoulders swing a little more freely.

1460
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 20: But even saying that, like, you know, when I come

1462
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 20: out on the Champions Tour. You know, I really didn't

1463
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 20: have anything.

1464
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: You know, it was just for me. It was kind

1465
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 4: of go for broke, nothing to lose kind of attitude.

1466
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 20: And I didn't know how many years I've got left,

1467
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 20: you know, I could have I could have an injury,

1468
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 20: or I might not make it on the Champion.

1469
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: So that kind of freed me up to play for sure.

1470
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: But the money's still you know, it's amazing.

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 20: I could put my kids through college and university and

1472
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 20: do all those things now that I possibly couldn't have.

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that certainly helps.

1474
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 20: But when we're out there playing, we're you know, as

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01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 20: I said, I'm just trying to get a W and

1476
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 20: the and the money's just just a bonus.

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: Good the schedule and looking at is that about right

1478
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: for you? Number of tournaments, the amount of time you play,

1479
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: the amount of time you have off.

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

1481
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 20: Now the last couple of years I've kind of played

1482
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 20: I think twenty one twenty two, that's been a good number.

1483
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 20: You know, maybe in a few years I've scale back

1484
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 20: a little bit. You know, I look at the schedule,

1485
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 20: I go, well, you know, I'll take that off and

1486
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 20: I'll take this off and try and have a good

1487
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 20: break somewhere. You're in the middle, and I'm still playing,

1488
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 20: you know, twenty two events, so.

1489
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 4: It's still quite a few, and I'd like to scale

1490
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 4: that back maybe the next few years.

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 20: But I think it's a good number as long as

1492
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 20: as long as I'm getting breaks during the year and

1493
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 20: a couple of weeks here and there.

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Speaker 2: But that really helps you live, they tell me in Arizona.

1495
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: I've been fascinated with Arizona. Is it good for the bones?

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a nice dry heat, isn't it. If

1497
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: you can live anywhere in the world, presumably, is it

1498
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: the place to live?

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 20: I mean for weather obviously year round. I mean it

1501
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 20: gets very very hot out here in the desert during

1502
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 20: during those summer months. But you know, we've got the

1503
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 20: golf courses, we've got the weather, especially this.

1504
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 4: Time of year.

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 20: It's its idea. We can just it's like groundhole day.

1506
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 20: We can go out and practice whenever we want, and

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 20: it's beautiful.

1508
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, we like it here. My wife is English.

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Speaker 20: We still try to get back there a couple of

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Speaker 20: times a year, and our kids are all over.

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Speaker 4: The place now, so yeah, it's a nice place. To live.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to you know, balance it all. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's been good to us here.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. We'll always good to catch up with you. Go well,

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Speaker 2: have a good Christmas and all of that. And when

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Speaker 2: you win the shwarp next year, we'll get you back

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Speaker 2: on and you know, just repeat the exercise.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a plan.

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Speaker 2: that especially Wellington listeners. Lindsay yohe one of the great

1545
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: names of Modernish New Zealand broadcasting, has passed away. Ed

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01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: is family home in Richmond. He retired to Richmond, Nelson.

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Speaker 2: He's passed away at the age of seventy eight. He

1548
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: was the two ZB breakfast host in Wellington for twenty

1549
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Speaker 2: three years, back in the days we had one ZB, TWOSB,

1550
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Speaker 2: three ZIB etc. He did that for twenty three years

1551
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: between nineteen seventy two and nineteen ninety five, and he

1552
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Speaker 2: was the news. He was the big deal. He was

1553
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: the big story in Wellington Radio retired to Richmond in

1554
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, launched Radio Richmond in twenty sixteen.

1555
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: You'll know about that if you're in the area. Out

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Speaker 2: of a caravan played music that he liked. That's what

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: we really all aspired. It wasn't it do stuff we

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Speaker 2: like on the radio.

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Speaker 18: I'm just thinking we don't have enough sort of you know,

1560
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Speaker 18: strictly Willie Nelson slash Paul's.

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Speaker 2: Precisely exactly more think of where we'd be if we

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Speaker 2: did anyway, So he launched his own radio Station's wife

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: Jan married for fifty five years. So Wellington listeners will

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: buzzer bumble. Of course, you had Merv Smith, you had

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Speaker 2: Lindsay yoh, you had Pat Courtney, you had Neil Collins,

1566
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Speaker 2: Colin Layman, if you want to go into Dunedin as well, big, big,

1567
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: big personalities back in the days when radio in this

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Speaker 2: country was more localized than it is now. So our

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Speaker 2: our condolences and best wishes to the Yo family. As

1570
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 2: far as the protest is concerned, here's a little bit

1571
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: of information you won't have picked up on Eru Carpa Kinney.

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: He's the organizer of this particular protest ERU carpa Key

1573
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: who is he? Well, he's ninth on the Murray Party list.

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: His mum is an MP's Carpakey Maddiameto. She won the

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: te tay Takara seat. Anyway, given he was ninth on

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: the list and they didn't get nine people into parliament,

1577
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: Ire found himself as a parliamentary staffer. He's a senior

1578
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: research advisor for his mother. So that's that's good to

1579
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: know that that's how it works. So currently he is

1580
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 2: on taxpayer funded incomes while carrying out the protest, so

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: we're all paying for it.

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Speaker 4: Rod in.

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: Britain in a moment Nigel Farage, it was quite a

1584
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: funny line from Kiyo Stamer. Nigel Farage was back in

1585
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: the Commons. And I'll tell you more about that in

1586
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments after the news which is

1587
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: next there news talk.

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: Zb setting the news agenda and digging into the issues

1589
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural to be.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that anyone will ever be held to account?

1592
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean last year was bad enough, but this year

1593
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: is fantastically funny. Eliev, who's the president of Azerbaijan, stood

1594
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Speaker 2: as I'm sure you were aware of you're following this

1595
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: at COP twenty nine stood up yesterday and he said

1596
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 2: oil and gas is a gift from God. And I thought,

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: good on you, that's brilliant. What idiot decided that going

1598
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: to an oil rich nation that takes crap from nobody

1599
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: was going to think this was going to be a

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Speaker 2: love fest for saving the planet. And that's before you

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: got to the person who was running the whole COP

1602
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: twenty nine on behalf of Azerbaijan, busy doing oil deals

1603
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: in the background. I mean, it's the funniest thing. No

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: one's there. It's sort of reached peak idiocy. No one's there.

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: No one of any significance is there whatsoever apart from

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: u um Kiyostama, who turns up and he promises to

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: cut a missions yet again, by even larger amounts than

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Speaker 2: he previously had. Of course, none of which will come

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Speaker 2: to pass. Speaking of which, twenty two.

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Speaker 8: To nine International Correspondence Quid ends an eye insurance mine

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Speaker 8: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 5: Yes on little money mite, good morning, nice of you

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01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 5: to nice to hear you mentioning Ka it always cheers

1614
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 5: me up.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone take him seriously on that stage? Given literally

1616
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: the Americans aren't there, the Chinese aren't there, the Indians

1617
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: aren't there, most of Europe isn't there. And he turns

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: up and goes, oh, don't worry, here's some more targets

1619
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: for us to wayne for and miss No.

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Speaker 5: No, nobody takes them seriously at all. But they are

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 5: heavily invested in nets zero and all the various other

1622
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 5: things which will which will make sure no one ever

1623
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 5: re elects themsoever in five years time, you know, with

1624
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 5: Ed miliband as as our Secretary of State for publishing

1625
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 5: the Working Class for living. Yeah, but using gat and

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 5: you know it is an absurdity and he should realize

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 5: it's an absurdity at least David Cameron, well, he went

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 5: green in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, suddenly later decided get

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Speaker 5: rid of all the green.

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Speaker 2: Stuff exactly, speaking of which I mentioned on the program

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: the other day at Peche who are up in the

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01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 2: North Sea looking for gas and oil basically handed in

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 2: the license and say we're off. That windfall text you

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: guys have that was introduced by the Conservatives up to

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: and extended brother. Likely it's at seventy eight percent. Who

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: wants to do business tax?

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Speaker 5: Why would you do any business? It's it's a disincentive

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 5: to to do stuff which will bring us cheap energy

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01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 5: and be also creative company which is doing well. Nobody

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: will do it. And this is always a problem with

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 5: windfall taxes. There's a kind of tranche of the population

1642
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 5: which thinks that a windfall tax of any rate whatsoever

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 5: is applicable to big businesses because they're evil. Well, it's

1644
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 5: that level of rationale that is in play here, and

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 5: of course it doesn't work. It just doesn't work.

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01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: So to justin Welby, I've got to say I was

1647
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: moderately surprised because when the story broke and the pressure

1648
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: was building, I thought, is he the sort of bloke

1649
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: that would quit? And I thought I decided he probably

1650
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't be. And yet bing he's gone.

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Speaker 5: Well he's gone because stuff came in from the government

1652
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 5: and also from the Bishop of Newcastle, who is quite

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01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: high up in the hierarchy, saying he's going to go. No,

1654
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 5: I didn't think he would go initially either. I'm not

1655
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 5: sure how much he is to blame. He is basically

1656
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: just In Welby, the head of the Anglican Church, is

1657
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: a bureaucrat, and he did what all bureaucrats do, which

1658
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 5: is when trouble raises its head, tries to ignore it

1659
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 5: and looks the other way. And that's what he did

1660
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 5: on this occasion with the pervert John Smith, whose crimes

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Speaker 5: were pretty appalling, to be absolutely honest. But I don't

1662
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 5: know that he will be much mourned, you know, and

1663
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 5: he should be grateful to be leaving with a pension

1664
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 5: and his head still attached to his shoulders, given what

1665
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 5: we've done to previous archbishops of Canterbury who've enraged us

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 5: in some way.

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Speaker 2: Do they post the results, do post the report? Do

1668
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: they do what many people ask for and go, you know,

1669
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: delve into it and see where it was, how big

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01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: it was, what they can do any of them or not.

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, there will be some of that, and I don't

1672
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 5: think that Wellby will come out terribly guilty. I mean,

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 5: most of the guilt lies with the church in the

1674
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 5: seventies and eighties, who clearly knew this was going on

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 5: but did nothing to stop it whatsoever. And it's the

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 5: same sort of thing that we've seen with the Catholic

1677
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 5: Church as well, both in Ireland and in the UK

1678
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 5: and across the world. But there's a bigger issue, which

1679
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,919
Speaker 5: is at time after time choose to be Archbishop of Canterbury,

1680
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 5: someone from a liberal elite and well be you know,

1681
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 5: educated in Eden, used to work for the oil companies.

1682
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 5: Now thinks oil companies are ghastly, talks more about asylum

1683
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 5: seekers and poverty than he does about Jesus Christ and God.

1684
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 5: And as a consequence, since two thousands a year two thousand,

1685
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: the Anglican Church, the Church of England in the UK

1686
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 5: has gone down from nine hundred thousand congregation average congregation

1687
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 5: to around about five hundred thousand to day. I mean,

1688
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 5: it's in a pitiful state, and it's being outflanked by

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01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 5: the churches which really do talk about God, such as

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 5: the Pentecostalists, who are raising their numbers every year. It's

1691
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 5: been calamitous. We are seeing, you know, we are seeing

1692
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 5: the dissolution of our established church in front of our eyes,

1693
01:20:59,120 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 5: very very quickly.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true. Speaking of Keir Starmer, I liked

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 2: his line for Farage. He said, you see, he was

1696
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 2: surprised to see Farash in the Commons and said, you

1697
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: spend so little time here, I thought you'd show up

1698
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: in the immigration numbers, which I thought was quite good.

1699
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Speaker 5: And un characteristically brilliant observation. And it's a real problem

1700
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 5: for Reform because basically without Nigel Farag's Reform are kind

1701
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 5: of nothing. They have Nigel Faraj at the moment, but

1702
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 5: only until he becomes bored and you know, heads off

1703
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 5: to the US to hang out with his friend Donald

1704
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 5: Trump or to do something else. I mean, he's resigned

1705
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 5: the leadership of UKIP or whatever party he's been in

1706
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 5: so many times we've lost count Uh is he going

1707
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 5: to be content to be the MP for Clacton and

1708
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 5: look after missus Smith's complaints about the local post office

1709
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff, or is he going

1710
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 5: to wish to play his life out on a bigger stage.

1711
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 5: And one always suspects that it's the latter of those two,

1712
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 5: and so Starmer's comment was very acute and very astute

1713
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 5: both of them, and it really is a problem for Reform.

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, mate, we'll catch up next week.

1715
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: Rod little out of the UK for us this morning. Yeah,

1716
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: I do have time. Sixteen minutes away from Nine's getting

1717
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: reference earlier on to the business of the media and

1718
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: the ongoing angst around the world as to what they

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Speaker 2: can and can't do. And I was telling you about

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Speaker 2: Meta and they produce their prices for European customers on

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Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram as a result of regulation. Well, we've

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Speaker 2: got the guy ah now, Bernard Arneau, who is the

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Speaker 2: head of LVMH, one of the richest men in the world.

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Speaker 2: He's in a court battle currently with Elon Musk, who

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Speaker 2: you know, supported by Le Figaro and LeMond newspapers in France.

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Speaker 2: Of course they're going to be hearing this particular case

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Speaker 2: in next May. But there's a rule about from the

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Speaker 2: judicial court, the rule that X had two months to

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Speaker 2: provide commercial data to the group of French publishers. They

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Speaker 2: had not complied with the decision, thus amounting to its

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Speaker 2: invariable desire to evade its legal obligations. What are their

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Speaker 2: illegal obligations? The legal obligations are they didn't pay for

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Speaker 2: information that they allegedly took from these publications and stuck

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Speaker 2: on there. It's the old if you take the information,

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Speaker 2: you've got to pay for it argument. It's just another

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Speaker 2: version of it. We talked to the Prime Minister hear

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Speaker 2: about it. The legislation is stuck, it's gone, it might

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Speaker 2: be back, it might not be. In Australia, they've got

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Speaker 2: troubles as well. Canada has been a complete nutter shambles.

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Speaker 2: These two gentlemen are going to go at it in Paris.

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Speaker 2: So it's an ongoing issue all over the world, played

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Speaker 2: out in various individual ways. A forty five.

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Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast full show podcast on I have

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Speaker 1: radio powered by news talks.

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Speaker 2: That be meant to mention this earlier but toddy. A

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, the Canadians were all on strike

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Speaker 2: again and that was going to cause major problems because

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that goes through Canada ends up

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Speaker 2: in America, and America doesn't like stuff not arriving in

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Speaker 2: their doorstep anyway. So the Labor Minister in Canada stepped

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Speaker 2: in and used, for the second time this year, has

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Speaker 2: federal power. They had Ports of Vancouver, Prince Rupert, Montreal

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Speaker 2: were on strike. This five hundred and seventy let's call

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Speaker 2: it half a billion. Half a billion in container trade

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Speaker 2: arrives daily in the US from Canada. Half a billion

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Speaker 2: per day. The rail cross border trade between Canada and

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Speaker 2: the US account of for fourteen percent of total bilateral

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Speaker 2: trade in the first half of the year, so it's

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Speaker 2: a big deal. So the negotiations went nowhere. Section one

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Speaker 2: oh seven of the Canada Labor Code you can order

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Speaker 2: binding arbitration to end the labor dispute. They did that. Also.

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Speaker 2: You might remember the Canadian Pacific Kansas City people in

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Speaker 2: the Canadian Rail Company, so they did it for the

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Speaker 2: rail They've done it for the port. So they're run

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Speaker 2: back at work. Quick question for you around yesterday. Didn't

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Speaker 2: get any coverage. It should have got more. But the

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Speaker 2: new chair of FARMC, which is a woman called Paula

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Speaker 2: Bennett who did other stuff that you'll know about in

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Speaker 2: another life, they disestablished at FARMEK the Mari Advisory Group.

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Speaker 2: So they had a Mari Advisory group because of course,

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Speaker 2: when you're buying pills and potions for people on behalf

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Speaker 2: of the taxpayer, it's very important you have individual representation.

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Speaker 2: That's why they've got a female advisory group, a male

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Speaker 2: advisory group, a tall person's advisory group, immigrant advisory group,

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Speaker 2: a refugee advisory I hang on, none of those, just

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: got a Mari advisory group. So they disestablished that and

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01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 2: everyone went, oh ay for here they want to put

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Speaker 2: more focus on the other partnership arrangements already in place.

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Speaker 2: Are there other partnership arrangements already in place? Indeed there are.

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Speaker 2: There are four Maori health professional bodies they deal with,

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01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: so not only did they have a MARI advisory group,

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Speaker 2: they had four other Maori groups as well to deal with,

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Speaker 2: thus adding up to five Maori groups to deal with? Questioners,

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Speaker 2: how many MARI groups do you need before Marie is satisfied?

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Speaker 2: Nine away from nine The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey.

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Speaker 2: The new Air New Zealand safety video. Interesting that they've

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Speaker 2: put a front person who put money before country. It's

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Speaker 2: another rubbish waste of three and a half minutes of

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Speaker 2: my already overpriced airfare. Thank you, David. I've not seen it.

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Speaker 2: It got released this morning, as I'm told, who do

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Speaker 2: we decide to start? But was it Adams? Stephen Adams

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Speaker 2: and Valerie Adams? Was it Stephen and Value Adams? Interesting

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Speaker 2: branding exercise in the sense that in New Zealand's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of image problems at the moment with engines

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Speaker 2: that stuck a lot of stuff isn't their fault on time, arrivals, departures,

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Speaker 2: number of planes, they haven't got, prices, affairs generally affecting

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Speaker 2: airlines all over the world. And I think a general sense,

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Speaker 2: and this is just from a punter's point of view,

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Speaker 2: a general sense that a lengthy, allegedly entertaining video is

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Speaker 2: somehow what you want when you get on the plane.

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Speaker 2: And I just wonder if I was sitting on the

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Speaker 2: board of Air New Zealand, I'd be saying something just

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Speaker 2: before we break for morning tea. Can I just offer

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Speaker 2: the idea that it's probably run its course?

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Speaker 18: Do you ever feel like you're watching it sitting there

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Speaker 18: or trying not to watch it, that the plane's actually

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Speaker 18: taking off later just because of the length of that video.

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Speaker 2: I arrived once and it hadn't even finished five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Warehouse great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: But I've got a documentary on yacht rock. You heard me.

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Speaker 2: It's called Music Box yacht Rock, a docudc K you,

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Speaker 2: Emmy and tr something rather you know, I listen it rocks,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't work too hard.

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Speaker 4: The singers are seem to be saying, Hey, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be okay.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect sitting down.

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Speaker 19: Dancing music also known as yak rock.

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Speaker 8: La.

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Speaker 18: In the nineteen seventies, it was an amazing time.

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Speaker 7: There's these really talented session guys who can play anything, Dan,

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Speaker 7: the Doobie Brothers.

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Speaker 16: Toto, Kenny lygen Is, Christopher, christ Mate mcdonnald.

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Speaker 2: The video killed the Radioster. I think it was just

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Speaker 2: absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: In my case.

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Speaker 16: Top forty career is having natural land.

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Speaker 14: They're always doing, always well.

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Speaker 2: I expected to be totally forgotten by the end of

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Speaker 2: the edies. That's what a full believes, Kenny, That's what

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Speaker 2: That's what a full believes. It's about twenty nine November.

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Speaker 2: I quite like the sound of It's on HBO Max,

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Speaker 2: which will be one of those things. I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to go there. You can watch it on Sky. Eventually.

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Speaker 2: I went to yesterday having told you about the who

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Speaker 2: was It that's expanding neon no Prime Video Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: So I went there yesterday and I looked at all

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Speaker 2: the options, including Yummy roll and all of those. Then

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Speaker 2: I was about to go on to the doc pod

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Speaker 2: and I was just about to hit doc pod and subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Katie went and I was going to do the seven

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Speaker 2: day trial seven day free trial, and just as I

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Speaker 2: hit hit go, she went, when you're gonna watch it?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why. She goes, well, the seven

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Speaker 2: day starts immediately. Do you have time to watch it

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Speaker 2: over the next I went, oh damn. And then I see, actually,

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Speaker 2: I've got time over the weekend. I'll be able to

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Speaker 2: watch it over the weekend. And she goes, and then

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Speaker 2: how do you unsubscribe? And then I went down to

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Speaker 2: the big long list on the screen of all the

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Speaker 2: things you have to do to unsubscribe, and we looked

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Speaker 2: at each other because we're in the snug, of course,

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Speaker 2: and we looked at each other on the sofa and

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Speaker 2: the snug, and we went, we're not going to caught

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Speaker 2: down that trap.

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Speaker 18: So have you figured out how to addsubscribe from Sky now?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Right, So we're learning our lessons slowly. So we didn't

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Speaker 2: subscribe to anything new yesterday, So that's good work. That's

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Speaker 2: good that we hosting Hawksbies Banking tomorrow. Happy Days.

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