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Speaker 3: On the Front Foot with.

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Speaker 2: The Black Caps when the One Day Series was England

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Speaker 2: serious about this content. A top umpire explains the change

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Speaker 2: in rules for white ball cricket. Sophie Devine leads the

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Speaker 2: One Day circuit, but not how she wanted to, What

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Speaker 2: improvements to the White Friends need to make to compete,

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Speaker 2: And a surprise outcome for the Women's World Cup not

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Speaker 2: so much India, the fact that they beat Australia to

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Speaker 2: get there had a lovely story from Club Cricket, sometimes

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Speaker 2: forgotten part of the domestic game. There is no surprise,

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Speaker 2: though Jeremy Cooney, that Kane Williamson has called time on

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Speaker 2: his T twenty career. Still we missed, of course, this

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Speaker 2: contribution to awful of the game has been amids but

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Speaker 2: he winds down his personal involvement. It seems to me

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Speaker 2: a practical decision. He's handling his career how he wants

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I think that's right. Once high there. Look,

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Speaker 3: Williams has been a great player in all their formats,

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Speaker 3: hasn't he And he's going to continue to be in

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Speaker 3: the two that he's decided that he would like to

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Speaker 3: in South Africa and Zimbabwebia, and he hopes that he

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Speaker 3: can play a part in that. Well, that's great because

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Speaker 3: even in the one game that he played, I thought

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Speaker 3: he made quite a difference personally. Not on the scoreboard maybe,

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Speaker 3: he's certainly in T twenty. He was a good T

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Speaker 3: I think because he preferred to try and see the

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Speaker 3: they didn't collapse in a heap, and so he became

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Speaker 3: didn't he when the other player as well, who he

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Speaker 2: And I think that was proven in that World Cup

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Speaker 3: That was the two days one day game. As I

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Speaker 3: but there's a sense that, yeah, but if we are

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Speaker 2: And you to look at his stats and I just

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Speaker 3: He certainly is. There's there's no doubt about his quality

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Speaker 3: Dubai against Australia. Yes, Now, how many did he get?

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Speaker 3: So winning the toss was a very important Even Aaron Finch,

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Speaker 2: He took the Ossies apart, and we'll certainly be acknowledging

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and t twenties and one day let's talk

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Speaker 5: Obviously pretty disappointing. You know when you come over here

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Speaker 3: We expected more, but.

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Speaker 5: Credit to New Zealand, I thought they outplayed us in

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Speaker 5: think Daryn Mitch was a great example of what to

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Speaker 5: I think in Test Krigg in T twenty, I think

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Speaker 5: improve on that pretty quickly. We've got some talented players,

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Speaker 2: A fair assessment I think then from McCollum of his

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Speaker 2: have to say answer the personal view, Jerry. I believe

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of cricket. They lost three tosses,

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Speaker 2: have to face that issue. The pictures, yes, may have

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Speaker 2: like that, But the game is all about being able

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right about not adapting and not being quite well.

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Speaker 3: They seemed sucked in by their own mantra in a way.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is a this is a side that

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Speaker 2: And he was against a bowling attack that was pretty useful.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And you can believe that England would be

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Speaker 6: Yes, so people watching will notice that there's a new

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Speaker 2: The leag side one is probably the one that does

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Speaker 6: past it would have been.

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Speaker 2: Does this apply to other than international cricket, like domestic cricket,

432
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Speaker 2: of these same laws applying.

433
00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:03,173
Speaker 6: No, So it's a playing condition. It's not a law right,

434
00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:07,453
Speaker 6: So laws are obviously determined the overriding like an mu

435
00:25:07,533 --> 00:25:11,373
Speaker 6: if you like. And playing conditions are a competition by

436
00:25:11,453 --> 00:25:16,053
Speaker 6: competition set of rules that either add to or replace laws.

437
00:25:16,533 --> 00:25:19,253
Speaker 6: So this is a playing condition. So for example, I

438
00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:21,733
Speaker 6: know in New Zealand domestic cricket it's not being applied.

439
00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:25,693
Speaker 6: It's a three month trial purely set up by the ICC.

440
00:25:26,773 --> 00:25:34,533
Speaker 2: Another new playing condition is the changing of the ball

441
00:25:34,653 --> 00:25:37,813
Speaker 2: after what at the end of the thirty fourth over, Well,

442
00:25:37,853 --> 00:25:41,333
Speaker 2: you don't change the ball, You just then use one

443
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:43,693
Speaker 2: of the two balls that have been used. Who decides that.

444
00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:48,373
Speaker 6: The field and captain. So for example, the other day,

445
00:25:48,573 --> 00:25:51,333
Speaker 6: I've only had a I've only done one ad isis

446
00:25:51,373 --> 00:25:55,653
Speaker 6: to change the other day in Sydney. It was very

447
00:25:55,733 --> 00:25:59,373
Speaker 6: very quick. You just show the captain two balls and

448
00:25:59,413 --> 00:26:04,573
Speaker 6: they pick one pretty quick. It's pretty easy process. And

449
00:26:05,293 --> 00:26:08,013
Speaker 6: I think what it does. It just, yeah, brings a

450
00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:09,693
Speaker 6: bat is into the game in the back end maybe

451
00:26:09,733 --> 00:26:10,413
Speaker 6: a little bit more.

452
00:26:10,973 --> 00:26:13,293
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing too, is what happens if that

453
00:26:13,333 --> 00:26:15,693
Speaker 2: ball is lost? Saying the fortieth over, do you go

454
00:26:15,773 --> 00:26:19,493
Speaker 2: back to the other ball that has been used in

455
00:26:19,493 --> 00:26:19,973
Speaker 2: that case?

456
00:26:20,893 --> 00:26:23,733
Speaker 6: Okay, So for all game games, we have a box

457
00:26:23,853 --> 00:26:26,413
Speaker 6: of used balls of varying degree of wear and tear.

458
00:26:27,373 --> 00:26:29,933
Speaker 6: That ball does go into that box. It doesn't have

459
00:26:29,973 --> 00:26:32,333
Speaker 6: to be the one that gets replaced, but it goes

460
00:26:32,373 --> 00:26:34,533
Speaker 6: into that box with the other balls, and it's up

461
00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:36,853
Speaker 6: to the umpires. If a ball does get lost, it's

462
00:26:36,893 --> 00:26:39,813
Speaker 6: up to the umpires to decide the closest the closest

463
00:26:39,893 --> 00:26:40,733
Speaker 6: match at that time.

464
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Speaker 2: Have you had much reaction from the players about the

465
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Speaker 2: changes and their understanding of the changes.

466
00:26:49,773 --> 00:26:53,413
Speaker 6: Yep, there's been. There's been quite a few questions asked,

467
00:26:53,453 --> 00:26:57,173
Speaker 6: not just by players but by commentators like yourself and

468
00:26:57,253 --> 00:27:01,493
Speaker 6: others involved. And it's I think it's fast. I think

469
00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:04,613
Speaker 6: it's brilliant that we're doing this chat to clarify a

470
00:27:04,613 --> 00:27:09,933
Speaker 6: few things, because sometimes public either miss informed or uninformed,

471
00:27:11,013 --> 00:27:13,533
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the player or a

472
00:27:13,613 --> 00:27:16,253
Speaker 6: numpire doesn't call a leg side why that would have

473
00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:20,733
Speaker 6: in the past. They're wondering, they're left wondering why.

474
00:27:20,893 --> 00:27:27,053
Speaker 2: So also, there's been a change to the outfield catch

475
00:27:27,253 --> 00:27:28,733
Speaker 2: now I think they call it. Do they call it

476
00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:31,693
Speaker 2: bunny hop or something that when you when you take

477
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,493
Speaker 2: a catch over the boundary throat of the air, get

478
00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:36,533
Speaker 2: back into the field of playing catch. It is that?

479
00:27:36,733 --> 00:27:38,733
Speaker 2: Is that what has been changed?

480
00:27:39,653 --> 00:27:42,613
Speaker 6: Yeah, So if you dive deep into this, it's actually

481
00:27:42,693 --> 00:27:46,133
Speaker 6: quite complicated. But for a single single field of catch,

482
00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:52,053
Speaker 6: if you like, it's quite straightforward. So your terminology is

483
00:27:52,093 --> 00:27:55,013
Speaker 6: correct in terms of a relaxed terminology called a bunny hop.

484
00:27:55,453 --> 00:27:57,933
Speaker 6: So what they want to prevent as an example, and

485
00:27:57,973 --> 00:28:03,573
Speaker 6: it's hard without any videos or photos. But as for that,

486
00:28:03,613 --> 00:28:06,093
Speaker 6: what hasn't hasn't changed is that the first point of

487
00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:08,773
Speaker 6: contact has to be from inside the field play, so

488
00:28:08,813 --> 00:28:10,373
Speaker 6: you can't leave the field of the play and then

489
00:28:10,453 --> 00:28:13,173
Speaker 6: jump up and knock the ball back and play. That

490
00:28:13,813 --> 00:28:16,773
Speaker 6: was never buch You had to start inside the field

491
00:28:16,773 --> 00:28:19,573
Speaker 6: to play, throw the ball up. But what used to

492
00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:23,373
Speaker 6: what was available to plays was they could throw the

493
00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:26,733
Speaker 6: ball up, leave the field to play, then jump up,

494
00:28:27,373 --> 00:28:29,613
Speaker 6: throw the ball up in the air while they're not grounded,

495
00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:33,773
Speaker 6: land back outside the field of the play, and then

496
00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:36,093
Speaker 6: run in and catch it and then land inside of

497
00:28:36,093 --> 00:28:38,733
Speaker 6: the field of play. And they had unlimited what you

498
00:28:38,813 --> 00:28:41,733
Speaker 6: call bunny hops outside of the field to play, So

499
00:28:41,773 --> 00:28:43,693
Speaker 6: as long as you went ground at the time you're

500
00:28:43,693 --> 00:28:47,693
Speaker 6: touching the ball, you could just keep going. So this

501
00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:53,453
Speaker 6: new glory has been brought in to circumnavigate that. So

502
00:28:54,093 --> 00:28:56,373
Speaker 6: you basically get one chance of touching it outside of

503
00:28:56,413 --> 00:28:59,493
Speaker 6: the field of play. The next time you touch the ball,

504
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:01,733
Speaker 6: you have to land back in the field to play

505
00:29:01,893 --> 00:29:03,453
Speaker 6: to prevent that bunny hop situation.

506
00:29:04,973 --> 00:29:08,013
Speaker 2: As an umpire, and you've been doing top level umpiring

507
00:29:08,053 --> 00:29:10,373
Speaker 2: for an number of years and you've got a fair

508
00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:14,733
Speaker 2: amount of experience, changes like this, do they tax you

509
00:29:14,773 --> 00:29:19,093
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of adjudicating on decisions. Do

510
00:29:19,133 --> 00:29:21,533
Speaker 2: you have to think a little bit more clearly before

511
00:29:21,533 --> 00:29:23,173
Speaker 2: you go out to a game until you get used

512
00:29:23,173 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 2: to the changes?

513
00:29:26,213 --> 00:29:26,413
Speaker 3: Ah?

514
00:29:26,493 --> 00:29:30,453
Speaker 6: Yes, And also when you're making decisions like, for example,

515
00:29:30,933 --> 00:29:35,013
Speaker 6: the new legs sidewide playing adition that's come in, you

516
00:29:35,093 --> 00:29:37,453
Speaker 6: certainly have another second or two to think about it,

517
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:40,733
Speaker 6: just to make sure you just don't react like you

518
00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:44,133
Speaker 6: normally would bring yourself back and flying to think Okay,

519
00:29:44,253 --> 00:29:47,893
Speaker 6: that's there or not there or wherever. And I think

520
00:29:47,973 --> 00:29:51,493
Speaker 6: that from an on point point of view, we've certainly discussed.

521
00:29:51,533 --> 00:29:54,333
Speaker 6: It's only been a few games so far, but it

522
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:57,333
Speaker 6: does make it more challenging for us because instead of

523
00:29:57,373 --> 00:30:00,533
Speaker 6: really just focusing on that off sideline, we now have

524
00:30:00,613 --> 00:30:04,533
Speaker 6: to focus on a leg sideline as well. And those lines,

525
00:30:04,973 --> 00:30:07,013
Speaker 6: as I say that, guidelines they move all the time,

526
00:30:07,093 --> 00:30:13,173
Speaker 6: so that in particular has definitely been more challenging for us.

527
00:30:13,933 --> 00:30:16,733
Speaker 2: Can you take an appeal from a player if they

528
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,893
Speaker 2: don't like your decision in terms of going back and

529
00:30:18,933 --> 00:30:21,373
Speaker 2: having a look at the television if they think you've

530
00:30:21,413 --> 00:30:26,173
Speaker 2: been either unfair or perhaps a little bit too generous

531
00:30:26,293 --> 00:30:29,253
Speaker 2: or is that it? Do you you get an umpire's

532
00:30:29,333 --> 00:30:32,453
Speaker 2: review for Catches Don't you for clean catches if they've

533
00:30:32,973 --> 00:30:36,893
Speaker 2: been at ground level. Is there any challenge open to

534
00:30:37,493 --> 00:30:39,573
Speaker 2: players on those other issues.

535
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:42,933
Speaker 6: In the IPI there are? Yes. They've got their own

536
00:30:42,933 --> 00:30:47,453
Speaker 6: set of playing additions which allow players to review wides

537
00:30:47,493 --> 00:30:51,973
Speaker 6: whether a call or not called. Other than that the

538
00:30:52,013 --> 00:30:56,493
Speaker 6: standards DRS or decision review system with the ICC they

539
00:30:56,613 --> 00:31:01,213
Speaker 6: can they can't review wides, but they can review, for example,

540
00:31:01,293 --> 00:31:04,013
Speaker 6: a runout or a stumping as well, but should not

541
00:31:04,013 --> 00:31:06,253
Speaker 6: not many people would know. But if they think they've

542
00:31:06,293 --> 00:31:08,493
Speaker 6: been hard done by by a runout, they are I'm

543
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:11,093
Speaker 6: allowed to review it within fifteen seconds. So it's not

544
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:15,173
Speaker 6: just LW's and courts, which is primarily the review what

545
00:31:15,293 --> 00:31:16,173
Speaker 6: their view systems for.

546
00:31:17,053 --> 00:31:20,093
Speaker 2: Generally with runouts and stumpings, the umpires go up for

547
00:31:20,693 --> 00:31:22,133
Speaker 2: confirmation anyway, don't they.

548
00:31:23,733 --> 00:31:25,613
Speaker 6: Yeah, we do have a chat about under use and

549
00:31:25,613 --> 00:31:29,373
Speaker 6: overuse of technology. If the technology is there, it's always

550
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:31,613
Speaker 6: a good idea to use it. Every now and then you

551
00:31:31,653 --> 00:31:33,493
Speaker 6: will get somebody who doesn't slide their back properly with

552
00:31:33,573 --> 00:31:37,013
Speaker 6: a runout of something like that or stumping where a

553
00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:39,773
Speaker 6: wacker keepers got their gloves in front of the stumps

554
00:31:39,813 --> 00:31:42,773
Speaker 6: where they're not allowed to it becomes a noble, So

555
00:31:43,413 --> 00:31:45,253
Speaker 6: all of a sudden you've got a situation that it's

556
00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:47,573
Speaker 6: not out and a noble and a free hit. So

557
00:31:49,213 --> 00:31:51,213
Speaker 6: it changes pretty rapidly from one side to the other.

558
00:31:51,773 --> 00:31:54,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're in Australia. What you're doing in the

559
00:31:55,053 --> 00:31:58,653
Speaker 2: India Australia series, yep.

560
00:31:58,493 --> 00:32:01,653
Speaker 6: So I was bort over. I umpired the last of

561
00:32:01,693 --> 00:32:05,813
Speaker 6: the odio's in Sydney a few days ago, and then

562
00:32:05,853 --> 00:32:09,173
Speaker 6: today we've got a first of the T twenties and

563
00:32:09,253 --> 00:32:13,013
Speaker 6: camera and then there's the second T twenties in Melbourne

564
00:32:13,053 --> 00:32:15,973
Speaker 6: on Friday night, and then yeah, I heap that came.

565
00:32:16,013 --> 00:32:18,133
Speaker 6: After that, we've got a serious of quist Dundy starting

566
00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:19,533
Speaker 6: a few days after. Get home.

567
00:32:20,573 --> 00:32:22,973
Speaker 3: Enjoy it still, I love it.

568
00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:26,613
Speaker 6: Yeah, as a fellow one part of mine once said,

569
00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:31,173
Speaker 6: it beats working for a living, so yeah, it's certainly challenging.

570
00:32:32,693 --> 00:32:34,813
Speaker 6: It's you know, you can make a living from it,

571
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:38,973
Speaker 6: but only unfortunately, only very few people can. So I'm

572
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:41,373
Speaker 6: very fortunate and lucky and that that I am in

573
00:32:41,413 --> 00:32:44,413
Speaker 6: a position where I can do it absolutely all.

574
00:32:44,373 --> 00:32:46,453
Speaker 2: Right, Well, we look forward to seeing you back home

575
00:32:46,453 --> 00:32:49,373
Speaker 2: and or before I go. There are no other changes

576
00:32:49,413 --> 00:32:52,053
Speaker 2: to the laws that I should have been talking about

577
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:57,293
Speaker 2: that are relevant to watching, either on television or at

578
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:57,693
Speaker 2: the ground.

579
00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:02,293
Speaker 6: There's a few minor ones, but I could probably go

580
00:33:02,333 --> 00:33:04,093
Speaker 6: on for another hour on all those and I don't

581
00:33:04,093 --> 00:33:07,173
Speaker 6: on board anyone, so not relevant to the viewer. I

582
00:33:07,173 --> 00:33:08,173
Speaker 6: don't think that I can think of.

583
00:33:08,893 --> 00:33:11,093
Speaker 2: That's great, all right. We look forward to seeing you

584
00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:12,933
Speaker 2: back here in New Zealand and I'm sure you'll have

585
00:33:12,973 --> 00:33:17,133
Speaker 2: a hand in the short form games anyway for the

586
00:33:17,173 --> 00:33:21,293
Speaker 2: West Indies series and the test match umpires come in

587
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:22,453
Speaker 2: from overseas, don't they.

588
00:33:23,853 --> 00:33:27,533
Speaker 6: Yep, that's right. We have one home umpire for test

589
00:33:27,613 --> 00:33:32,133
Speaker 6: matches as a reserve umpire for those Test matches. But

590
00:33:32,213 --> 00:33:35,013
Speaker 6: you know we're involved all the white Balls series, so looking.

591
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:37,813
Speaker 2: Forward to plenty of cricket guard. Thanks very much for

592
00:33:37,853 --> 00:33:40,853
Speaker 2: your time and we'll see you back here in New Zealand.

593
00:33:41,213 --> 00:33:43,293
Speaker 6: Thanks Brian Pleasure, thanks for inviting me.

594
00:33:44,293 --> 00:33:46,813
Speaker 2: Interesting comments from Wayne Nights during not much what we

595
00:33:46,853 --> 00:33:50,213
Speaker 2: can add to that, but there will be contentious issues

596
00:33:50,213 --> 00:33:52,213
Speaker 2: that come up and that we can discuss at odd

597
00:33:52,293 --> 00:33:55,693
Speaker 2: times and be nice to have Wayne Nights back talking

598
00:33:55,693 --> 00:33:59,893
Speaker 2: with us because it's good to hear rather than our

599
00:34:00,853 --> 00:34:02,933
Speaker 2: vision of the laws. How they apply the laws and

600
00:34:02,973 --> 00:34:06,133
Speaker 2: it you know, it's a tough job. I suppose the

601
00:34:06,373 --> 00:34:09,693
Speaker 2: amount of pressure that the umpires are under yep.

602
00:34:09,653 --> 00:34:14,893
Speaker 3: And I think it's already happened. Joe Roots dismissal and

603
00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:19,093
Speaker 3: Hamilton he was very much angered by the decisions two

604
00:34:19,133 --> 00:34:23,093
Speaker 3: balls prior to edging down the leg side because he

605
00:34:23,213 --> 00:34:25,453
Speaker 3: decided he had to go over it because he wasn't

606
00:34:25,493 --> 00:34:28,773
Speaker 3: going to get that wide call one of the other parts.

607
00:34:28,773 --> 00:34:32,053
Speaker 3: So I think he might have quietly or at least

608
00:34:32,093 --> 00:34:34,693
Speaker 3: put his bat down in the changing room slightly harder.

609
00:34:36,093 --> 00:34:41,333
Speaker 3: And so, yeah, the only the interesting thing I sought

610
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:45,213
Speaker 3: from Wayne was I didn't realize that that line, that

611
00:34:45,373 --> 00:34:50,853
Speaker 3: new line that they've put in is movable depending on

612
00:34:50,933 --> 00:34:56,853
Speaker 3: where the batsmen takes up their stance. Yeah, so that's

613
00:34:56,893 --> 00:34:59,613
Speaker 3: an interesting point, isn't it. So that's got to be

614
00:34:59,653 --> 00:35:04,173
Speaker 3: remembered as well. But how batsmen adjust to this that

615
00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:06,293
Speaker 3: will be the next interesting thing. Do they have to

616
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:09,333
Speaker 3: play more on the leg side on the front foot

617
00:35:09,733 --> 00:35:10,813
Speaker 3: with Waddle and Cody?

618
00:35:11,853 --> 00:35:14,893
Speaker 2: The Women's World Cup has come to an end. No

619
00:35:14,973 --> 00:35:19,093
Speaker 2: surprise that India beat South Africa. The surprise to me

620
00:35:19,813 --> 00:35:22,413
Speaker 2: was that they beat Australia to get there and poor

621
00:35:22,493 --> 00:35:25,973
Speaker 2: ord Alyssa Heay, she dropped a couple of key catchers

622
00:35:26,013 --> 00:35:30,853
Speaker 2: that meant they fell out of the chance of getting

623
00:35:30,893 --> 00:35:37,013
Speaker 2: another World Cup to their run name. But as I

624
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:40,653
Speaker 2: said in two for Sapey Divine Jerry, her career didn't

625
00:35:40,773 --> 00:35:42,893
Speaker 2: end as she would have liked it. But that lost

626
00:35:42,893 --> 00:35:47,453
Speaker 2: to England at the Woman's World Cup closed the one

627
00:35:47,933 --> 00:35:52,053
Speaker 2: day career and the White Fans bowed out of the Cup,

628
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:56,293
Speaker 2: finishing eighth. It wasn't due to Divine's performance at the tournament.

629
00:35:56,773 --> 00:36:00,213
Speaker 2: She was outstanding. They got your two hundred and eighty

630
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:04,173
Speaker 2: nine runs at fifty seven top score of one hundred

631
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:07,693
Speaker 2: and twelve. She was fifth on the list of run getters.

632
00:36:08,413 --> 00:36:12,093
Speaker 2: She's had a remarkable career. Teammates and opponents alike have

633
00:36:12,133 --> 00:36:15,413
Speaker 2: been glowing in their praise for her commitment and contribution

634
00:36:15,493 --> 00:36:17,693
Speaker 2: to the game, lifting as were one of the greats

635
00:36:17,773 --> 00:36:20,213
Speaker 2: of the women's game. And I think that's a fair point.

636
00:36:20,693 --> 00:36:25,893
Speaker 2: First played Jerry two thousand and six, nineteen years at

637
00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:29,213
Speaker 2: the top level, and while she's giving up one days,

638
00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:31,693
Speaker 2: she sells teems to want to play tea twenty. What

639
00:36:31,813 --> 00:36:33,373
Speaker 2: a hell of a career she's had.

640
00:36:34,413 --> 00:36:42,373
Speaker 3: Beca isn't it an incredible longevity in the game. Yeah,

641
00:36:42,453 --> 00:36:47,933
Speaker 3: it's I didn't realize actually she I mean, she's obviously

642
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:51,413
Speaker 3: been one of the top women's players for a long

643
00:36:51,533 --> 00:36:57,413
Speaker 3: time and the runs because of that. You know, there's

644
00:36:57,453 --> 00:37:00,173
Speaker 3: a lot of more pressure on you, isn't there. It

645
00:37:00,213 --> 00:37:02,533
Speaker 3: was like Richard Hadley in a way that there's always

646
00:37:02,613 --> 00:37:07,693
Speaker 3: expectation on him to actually perform well and also on

647
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 3: Sophie Thought and the pressure just to constantly score is

648
00:37:12,893 --> 00:37:16,933
Speaker 3: heaped on you every match of your play and it's

649
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:20,653
Speaker 3: a bit unrealistic really. But she started as a quick bowler.

650
00:37:20,653 --> 00:37:24,253
Speaker 3: I believe that. Is that what's usual reared at all?

651
00:37:24,773 --> 00:37:27,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was mainly she was mainly a bowler from

652
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:30,093
Speaker 2: the outset and developed.

653
00:37:29,653 --> 00:37:31,213
Speaker 3: Area and better number eleven.

654
00:37:31,733 --> 00:37:33,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she was. She was certainly down the order,

655
00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:37,533
Speaker 2: but I mean she was sort of seventeen or eighteen

656
00:37:37,653 --> 00:37:40,493
Speaker 2: years of age too at that stage, so you don't

657
00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:43,213
Speaker 2: slot into the top level. Even Amelia cur had to

658
00:37:43,213 --> 00:37:47,133
Speaker 2: wait then she to get included. But you just have

659
00:37:47,213 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 2: a look at her stats. One hundred and fifty nine matches,

660
00:37:50,653 --> 00:37:54,133
Speaker 2: four two hundred run she's averaged thirty two in odiis

661
00:37:54,693 --> 00:37:59,213
Speaker 2: nine hundred's there and t twenty career abuting one hundred

662
00:37:59,253 --> 00:38:03,093
Speaker 2: and forty six games, top score of one hundred and five,

663
00:38:03,693 --> 00:38:07,093
Speaker 2: three thousand runs and average of twenty eight to strike

664
00:38:07,173 --> 00:38:09,213
Speaker 2: rate of one hundred and twenty. I mean all those

665
00:38:09,253 --> 00:38:12,973
Speaker 2: stats just to add to what New Zealand's achieved at

666
00:38:13,053 --> 00:38:16,053
Speaker 2: times in the women's game, and she certainly hasn't let

667
00:38:16,093 --> 00:38:19,053
Speaker 2: them down by her performance. There are a few things

668
00:38:19,053 --> 00:38:21,493
Speaker 2: I think that New Zealand Cricket has to address in

669
00:38:21,573 --> 00:38:25,053
Speaker 2: terms of the women's game, but finding a replacement for

670
00:38:25,093 --> 00:38:28,053
Speaker 2: a Sophie Devine is not going to be the easiest

671
00:38:28,253 --> 00:38:29,653
Speaker 2: question they have to answer, is it.

672
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:33,933
Speaker 3: No, not at all. But I mean I will remember

673
00:38:33,973 --> 00:38:38,653
Speaker 3: her as an easy power hitter with the ability to

674
00:38:38,853 --> 00:38:43,133
Speaker 3: potentially alter the balance of matches. I mean, she had

675
00:38:43,173 --> 00:38:46,853
Speaker 3: such a natural hand eye coordination, maybe through her early

676
00:38:46,893 --> 00:38:51,413
Speaker 3: hockey interest playing see the women's hockey and Wellington at

677
00:38:51,453 --> 00:38:56,533
Speaker 3: aged fourteen heavens above and then so she's obviously a

678
00:38:56,653 --> 00:39:02,493
Speaker 3: naturally strong person and an athlete hitting down the ground

679
00:39:02,573 --> 00:39:05,453
Speaker 3: and to the leg side. You're right about the nineteen

680
00:39:05,533 --> 00:39:10,973
Speaker 3: years that's I mean, she's witnessed and played through lots

681
00:39:11,013 --> 00:39:15,813
Speaker 3: of change, hasn't the amateur days almost, you know, and

682
00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:18,493
Speaker 3: then she's clearly liked the game and had a desire

683
00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:21,533
Speaker 3: to want to improve and get better with it, and

684
00:39:22,053 --> 00:39:27,533
Speaker 3: with that instinctive hitting that she has, and she would

685
00:39:27,573 --> 00:39:29,333
Speaker 3: have been there at the start of the T twenty

686
00:39:29,373 --> 00:39:32,133
Speaker 3: format that you just mentioned one hundred and forty six

687
00:39:32,213 --> 00:39:36,253
Speaker 3: that she played. It was a good piece of timing

688
00:39:36,293 --> 00:39:40,213
Speaker 3: for her, another good piece of timing, and you know,

689
00:39:40,533 --> 00:39:45,013
Speaker 3: the franchises around the world were naturally attracted to her.

690
00:39:45,053 --> 00:39:47,813
Speaker 3: You know, she played three for three teams in Australia

691
00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:51,093
Speaker 3: and four teams in England. She played in the West

692
00:39:51,133 --> 00:39:55,373
Speaker 3: Indies is she's in the Women's IPL But right through

693
00:39:55,413 --> 00:39:57,773
Speaker 3: it all, I've always had the impression because I don't

694
00:39:57,813 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 3: know Sophie and I've never spoken to her, she was

695
00:40:02,253 --> 00:40:05,853
Speaker 3: a proud New Zealander that always kind of came across

696
00:40:05,893 --> 00:40:11,333
Speaker 3: in her comments, and you know it meant a lot

697
00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:15,493
Speaker 3: that she was representing us, and you know, sport was

698
00:40:15,573 --> 00:40:19,013
Speaker 3: through Sport always throws you lots of challenges and you know,

699
00:40:19,253 --> 00:40:22,453
Speaker 3: you have good and lots of good days, and inevitably

700
00:40:22,533 --> 00:40:25,213
Speaker 3: she'll look back sometime and she'll find those good and

701
00:40:25,293 --> 00:40:30,493
Speaker 3: bad memories. But I think probably it'll be the teammates

702
00:40:31,213 --> 00:40:34,213
Speaker 3: and those times in the dressing rooms and those discussions

703
00:40:34,253 --> 00:40:38,773
Speaker 3: and those conversations that she'll remember, you know. And I

704
00:40:38,813 --> 00:40:41,893
Speaker 3: mean she's had her challenges, hasn't she. She's a Type

705
00:40:41,893 --> 00:40:46,133
Speaker 3: one diabetic, Yeah, so you would know more about and

706
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:48,253
Speaker 3: what that means on playing days.

707
00:40:48,893 --> 00:40:51,253
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's tough. I mean that can

708
00:40:51,293 --> 00:40:56,133
Speaker 2: be mentally draining, but also physically draining as well, particularly

709
00:40:56,133 --> 00:41:00,053
Speaker 2: when you're you know, having to go through a long

710
00:41:00,093 --> 00:41:04,213
Speaker 2: time at the crease, the amount of perspiration and the

711
00:41:04,373 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 2: need to keep your blood sugar levels balanced. I mean

712
00:41:09,093 --> 00:41:14,853
Speaker 2: that in itself, playing cricket very very difficult, and she's

713
00:41:14,893 --> 00:41:16,973
Speaker 2: handled it well and the figures prove it.

714
00:41:18,253 --> 00:41:18,613
Speaker 6: Yeah.

715
00:41:18,933 --> 00:41:22,093
Speaker 3: And I mean also she has addressed the importance of

716
00:41:22,173 --> 00:41:23,413
Speaker 3: mental issues in the game.

717
00:41:24,093 --> 00:41:27,613
Speaker 2: Yes. I think that's something many of the women are

718
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:30,173
Speaker 2: dealing with at the moment too, aren't they, and looking

719
00:41:30,213 --> 00:41:35,933
Speaker 2: to settle themselves into the professional era and the demands

720
00:41:36,133 --> 00:41:39,013
Speaker 2: on the mental approach.

721
00:41:39,973 --> 00:41:42,733
Speaker 3: Yep, so played a lot, witnessed a lot, given a

722
00:41:42,773 --> 00:41:47,013
Speaker 3: lot and missed on the field. Now and it's now

723
00:41:47,093 --> 00:41:48,853
Speaker 3: up to her, I guess if she wants to stay

724
00:41:48,893 --> 00:41:50,853
Speaker 3: in the game and make an impact in some other

725
00:41:50,893 --> 00:41:54,573
Speaker 3: way if she wants to, because there's lots to do

726
00:41:54,653 --> 00:41:57,293
Speaker 3: in New Zealand women's cricket. As you were just pointing

727
00:41:57,293 --> 00:42:00,693
Speaker 3: out a moment ago, if we look at this last tournament,

728
00:42:00,733 --> 00:42:03,973
Speaker 3: which has been pretty tough, they didn't quite play to

729
00:42:04,053 --> 00:42:07,693
Speaker 3: the level that we've seen them play, and then there

730
00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:10,053
Speaker 3: was a little bit of a bit of ill luck

731
00:42:10,093 --> 00:42:13,053
Speaker 3: with the rained out matches and so on. But you know,

732
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:16,413
Speaker 3: raising the structure of our play in New Zealand really

733
00:42:16,453 --> 00:42:18,893
Speaker 3: important over the next five ten years.

734
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:22,653
Speaker 1: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

735
00:42:23,053 --> 00:42:26,253
Speaker 2: It's not often that the club events gained attention, but

736
00:42:26,973 --> 00:42:29,493
Speaker 2: finally this week one player in the Wellington Club competition

737
00:42:29,573 --> 00:42:32,973
Speaker 2: deserved to have his efforts acknowledged in the Wellington Domestic

738
00:42:33,213 --> 00:42:37,053
Speaker 2: Club T twenty. Nick Greenwood has been playing the off

739
00:42:37,093 --> 00:42:41,533
Speaker 2: season for Jersey in the Channel Islands, both club and

740
00:42:42,013 --> 00:42:46,693
Speaker 2: ICC events. Last weekend he displayed club commitment, having just

741
00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 2: returned to Wellington from his overseas assignment. Nick tell us

742
00:42:50,853 --> 00:42:53,573
Speaker 2: the story about your return to playing for your club tighter.

743
00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:58,813
Speaker 4: Yes, I flew back from Jersey on Saturday morning four am,

744
00:42:58,893 --> 00:43:04,213
Speaker 4: going to Auckland, Sad picking up from Wines and the airports.

745
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:04,333
Speaker 2: At m of the morning.

746
00:43:04,413 --> 00:43:07,893
Speaker 4: I went home, grabbing my kid together, went down and

747
00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:13,453
Speaker 4: washed the first game in the morning where Tighter beat Aberhart,

748
00:43:13,453 --> 00:43:16,133
Speaker 4: which meant they qualified for the semi final, and they

749
00:43:16,133 --> 00:43:18,133
Speaker 4: asked if I wanted to play, and I said, yeah,

750
00:43:18,173 --> 00:43:21,053
Speaker 4: of course. So I rocked up in the afternoon and

751
00:43:21,493 --> 00:43:23,413
Speaker 4: I actually didn't have to do much. My brother actually

752
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:26,973
Speaker 4: did all the scoring. I came at the end and

753
00:43:27,013 --> 00:43:29,013
Speaker 4: then the game's pros done and then went to the

754
00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:29,813
Speaker 4: final on Sunday.

755
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:32,493
Speaker 2: And you played a part in that because you bowled

756
00:43:32,533 --> 00:43:34,973
Speaker 2: towards the end. It probably the most difficult time.

757
00:43:35,373 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bowl the last two hours. They kept catch

758
00:43:39,053 --> 00:43:42,013
Speaker 4: some kindly game in the ball we got across the line.

759
00:43:42,053 --> 00:43:44,133
Speaker 4: So it was awso performance from the boys. But you know,

760
00:43:44,653 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 4: I think the best way to get over your jet

761
00:43:46,013 --> 00:43:48,813
Speaker 4: legs sometimes just get on it and play some cricket

762
00:43:48,893 --> 00:43:50,253
Speaker 4: or stay on the sun and want.

763
00:43:50,413 --> 00:43:52,613
Speaker 2: Did it affect you mentally? Did you sort of wonder

764
00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:54,893
Speaker 2: what you're doing or was it just something that you

765
00:43:54,933 --> 00:43:55,533
Speaker 2: do naturally.

766
00:43:56,413 --> 00:44:00,533
Speaker 4: I can't say Saturday Afternoon is my best performance career club,

767
00:44:00,813 --> 00:44:02,413
Speaker 4: but it was just good to be back and on

768
00:44:02,493 --> 00:44:04,653
Speaker 4: the boys and help me keep me away to be honest,

769
00:44:04,693 --> 00:44:08,013
Speaker 4: so I probably wasn't at my best, but yeah, good

770
00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:08,293
Speaker 4: to be.

771
00:44:08,373 --> 00:44:12,133
Speaker 2: Could be back in Jersey for well half of you

772
00:44:12,253 --> 00:44:16,373
Speaker 2: about six months and playing for Jersey. Firstly, you qualify

773
00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:19,253
Speaker 2: by birth. Does that discount you from playing for New

774
00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:20,053
Speaker 2: Zealand if you ever.

775
00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:23,933
Speaker 4: Get the opportunity, no duty of being associate nation. I

776
00:44:23,973 --> 00:44:26,213
Speaker 4: can play for still both for New Zealand. I just

777
00:44:26,213 --> 00:44:28,013
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to go back if I ever played

778
00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:29,413
Speaker 4: for I wouldn't be able to go back and play

779
00:44:29,453 --> 00:44:29,933
Speaker 4: for Jersey.

780
00:44:30,413 --> 00:44:33,293
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And what's it like Jersey? It seems it

781
00:44:33,333 --> 00:44:35,733
Speaker 2: seems strange. What sort of cricket do they have over there?

782
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:36,613
Speaker 2: How how strong is it?

783
00:44:38,173 --> 00:44:41,293
Speaker 4: We have a very limited club cricket scene, only four teams,

784
00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:45,493
Speaker 4: but internationally we've managed to compete very well over the

785
00:44:45,493 --> 00:44:50,173
Speaker 4: past or like five years since I've been playing. We

786
00:44:50,213 --> 00:44:52,093
Speaker 4: almost qualify for a workout this year. That's thee our

787
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:54,933
Speaker 4: net run rate after beating Scotland probably our biggest he

788
00:44:54,973 --> 00:44:58,573
Speaker 4: will win. So you know, it's a great experience playing

789
00:44:59,013 --> 00:45:01,533
Speaker 4: those high level teams like the Netherlands and Scotland and whatnot,

790
00:45:01,573 --> 00:45:04,573
Speaker 4: and having those experiences with the goal of hopefully going

791
00:45:04,613 --> 00:45:05,333
Speaker 4: to work up one.

792
00:45:05,293 --> 00:45:07,733
Speaker 2: Day and you spend most of your time in Jersey

793
00:45:07,733 --> 00:45:10,053
Speaker 2: because I mean you closer to the French coast to

794
00:45:10,093 --> 00:45:13,573
Speaker 2: the English coast. But you know, there must be a

795
00:45:13,573 --> 00:45:16,053
Speaker 2: fair bit of money you spent traveling around to play

796
00:45:16,413 --> 00:45:18,613
Speaker 2: in these tournaments or is that paid for by the board?

797
00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:21,813
Speaker 4: H Jersey Cricket fund all the travel for the boys,

798
00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,933
Speaker 4: which is great, but obviously no one, no one gets

799
00:45:24,933 --> 00:45:28,853
Speaker 4: paid by Jersey Cricket. It's all, you know, amateur sports,

800
00:45:28,853 --> 00:45:31,573
Speaker 4: so for us competing against professionals most of the time,

801
00:45:32,293 --> 00:45:35,053
Speaker 4: but they pay for my travel, food, that sort of stuff,

802
00:45:35,093 --> 00:45:36,253
Speaker 4: so that's all looked after.

803
00:45:36,773 --> 00:45:38,933
Speaker 2: Can you reflect on what it's done for your game

804
00:45:38,973 --> 00:45:40,133
Speaker 2: over the last six months.

805
00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:43,493
Speaker 4: I mean, having somewhere to go in the winter to

806
00:45:43,493 --> 00:45:45,933
Speaker 4: play cricket only benefits you. And to play at like

807
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:50,013
Speaker 4: such a high level against you know, international teams is

808
00:45:50,053 --> 00:45:53,493
Speaker 4: only only beneficial for my cricket. So I'm very thankful

809
00:45:53,493 --> 00:45:55,013
Speaker 4: for them for what they do and they look after

810
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:55,613
Speaker 4: me very well.

811
00:45:56,213 --> 00:45:58,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, you've got a couple of hundreds in

812
00:45:58,613 --> 00:46:00,973
Speaker 2: the in various games. I had to look at some

813
00:46:01,013 --> 00:46:03,133
Speaker 2: of the school boarders you've got. You've got the ton.

814
00:46:03,413 --> 00:46:06,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got one hundred this summer in the

815
00:46:06,893 --> 00:46:10,213
Speaker 4: fifty over walk up qualifiers, so we've got one more

816
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:12,813
Speaker 4: out of that in Qatar next year and then hopefully

817
00:46:12,853 --> 00:46:15,053
Speaker 4: we go into League two qualifiers, which would be nice.

818
00:46:15,173 --> 00:46:16,933
Speaker 2: So you're going back, Ah.

819
00:46:16,773 --> 00:46:18,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a plan. Obviously, you have to weigh out

820
00:46:18,973 --> 00:46:21,533
Speaker 4: and see what happens in terms of the scheduling. I'm

821
00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:23,213
Speaker 4: still a little bit up in their Hopefully it doesn't

822
00:46:23,253 --> 00:46:27,453
Speaker 4: clash with Wellington summer too much, which I've been lucky

823
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:27,813
Speaker 4: so far.

824
00:46:27,893 --> 00:46:31,613
Speaker 2: But do you you play as an all rounder? Are

825
00:46:31,653 --> 00:46:34,613
Speaker 2: you an all rounder? Do you consider yourself an all rounder?

826
00:46:35,733 --> 00:46:37,133
Speaker 2: Or are you betsmany balls?

827
00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:40,493
Speaker 4: I used to be definitely just more of a vetsman,

828
00:46:40,613 --> 00:46:43,653
Speaker 4: but I think we've the way the teams change. And

829
00:46:43,933 --> 00:46:46,693
Speaker 4: to a credit to Shane Jurgenson, he and she got

830
00:46:46,693 --> 00:46:48,653
Speaker 4: me bowling and probably gave me a little bit of

831
00:46:48,733 --> 00:46:50,333
Speaker 4: kick up the ass last year and told me to

832
00:46:50,453 --> 00:46:52,653
Speaker 4: work my bowling. And then it's a bit more and

833
00:46:52,693 --> 00:46:54,413
Speaker 4: I got a few over Zim for Wellington and since

834
00:46:54,453 --> 00:46:56,693
Speaker 4: then I bought a lot more for Jersey as well.

835
00:46:56,773 --> 00:46:59,693
Speaker 4: So I'd like to say still pending on the all

836
00:46:59,773 --> 00:47:02,413
Speaker 4: round of status, but yeah, definitely keen to keep going

837
00:47:02,413 --> 00:47:02,653
Speaker 4: with it.

838
00:47:02,893 --> 00:47:05,013
Speaker 2: You're still getting your land leagues back after coming back

839
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:07,093
Speaker 2: from Jersey looking out at the base because the covers

840
00:47:07,093 --> 00:47:09,133
Speaker 2: are on at the moment. But it's nice to be

841
00:47:09,173 --> 00:47:11,333
Speaker 2: back where you play your cricket mainly.

842
00:47:11,733 --> 00:47:13,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is nice to be back. Something's never change

843
00:47:13,813 --> 00:47:15,933
Speaker 4: about Wellington. But yeah, it's lovely to be back in

844
00:47:15,973 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 4: amongst the boys for sure.

845
00:47:19,533 --> 00:47:22,573
Speaker 2: Nick Greenwood, the form for Tighter worked well for him

846
00:47:22,613 --> 00:47:25,133
Speaker 2: as well. He was immediately called into the Firebirds for

847
00:47:25,173 --> 00:47:27,333
Speaker 2: a one day with Canterbury, scoring forty two and a

848
00:47:27,373 --> 00:47:31,253
Speaker 2: seventh wicket stand of eighty with Peter young husband as

849
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:34,533
Speaker 2: Wellington just pipped the Red and Blacks by two wickets

850
00:47:34,573 --> 00:47:38,653
Speaker 2: at the base in reserve. But I ran the story, Jerry,

851
00:47:38,693 --> 00:47:41,053
Speaker 2: because I think it's a lovely cricket story that we

852
00:47:41,093 --> 00:47:44,573
Speaker 2: don't often hear. You know, the warm tales about players,

853
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:46,173
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of them up and down the country,

854
00:47:46,213 --> 00:47:48,573
Speaker 2: I'm sure who are happy to get off a plane

855
00:47:48,613 --> 00:47:51,773
Speaker 2: from overseas and play for their club and you know,

856
00:47:51,893 --> 00:47:54,373
Speaker 2: committed to the club is where it all started for these

857
00:47:54,373 --> 00:47:58,093
Speaker 2: guys and you know he by doing that is giving

858
00:47:58,093 --> 00:47:59,093
Speaker 2: something back to that club.

859
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:04,333
Speaker 3: Oh it's a great story. Wards I mean you do

860
00:48:04,413 --> 00:48:09,733
Speaker 3: feel jet leg. It's a lot long from the where

861
00:48:09,773 --> 00:48:12,493
Speaker 3: he was to coming back to where we are, I

862
00:48:12,653 --> 00:48:15,213
Speaker 3: tell you, and to actually just turn up as soon

863
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:19,333
Speaker 3: as you know, to almost caught it, almost caught, you know,

864
00:48:19,493 --> 00:48:23,933
Speaker 3: Chats's cab out to go straight out to tighter and

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Speaker 3: play out there. That's that's a fantastic effort. And I'm

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Speaker 3: sure the boys would have loved to have seen him.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it got in through to a decent sleep

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Speaker 3: that night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was struggling a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: in the end result it's just, you know, it's that

871
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Speaker 2: sort of commitment. I think that's important to crickets at

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Speaker 2: all levels. And you know he'sn and quietly. He wouldn't

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Speaker 2: do it unless he wanted to, and that to me

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Speaker 2: is the great thing. Well, it brings Hi an end

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Speaker 2: of our program this week, Jerry another podcast. I think

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00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:03,533
Speaker 2: we'll look at the women's cricket next week, and yep,

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Speaker 2: you'll probably will you be hiding around one of the

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Speaker 2: cricket grounds or are you waiting for the only eyes

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Speaker 2: of the West Indies.

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Speaker 3: I will be doing the test matches, I think next

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Speaker 3: the tests. Okay, so I'll be watching along with you

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Speaker 3: to see how New Zealand get on against the West Indies.

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Speaker 3: They'll be an interesting challenge because they've got some decent bowlers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, we don't even know what the side is

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00:49:28,733 --> 00:49:31,973
Speaker 2: that's coming here. I'm not sure whether Shamah Jove is coming.

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Speaker 2: We'll get that team in due course. But they're playing

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Speaker 2: a series of T twenties first off. And while they're

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00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:44,493
Speaker 2: doing that jury you can do your research quietly there

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00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:49,013
Speaker 2: on the deck in the sunshine, in your your shorts,

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Speaker 2: getting a little bit of a suntan on those legs

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Speaker 2: of yours. And and I'll go no further because obviously

892
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Speaker 2: you're embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well that's right. I have to I have to

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Speaker 3: stay very still wards. Otherwise clouds, yeah, that's very small,

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Speaker 3: thin cloud can take out both the leagues.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing if you're in a kiss

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Speaker 2: next thing there with your new something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably got.

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