1
00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,519
Speaker 1: Coming up. It's just gone quarter past six on news talks.

2
00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,240
Speaker 1: He be coming up in just a few moments. I'm

3
00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about Prince Harry. You know, he's in

4
00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,160
Speaker 1: court try and get more bodyguards out of the Brits. Well,

5
00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,799
Speaker 1: he's turned up somewhere else, which is quite unusual. I

6
00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,840
Speaker 1: think we'll get to that shortly. Right now, Barry Soper

7
00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,639
Speaker 1: here wrapping the week that was Bez. Welcome back.

8
00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,000
Speaker 2: It's nice to be here for the final time now

9
00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,200
Speaker 2: for the next three months.

10
00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,959
Speaker 1: Right, one last hurrah for us, Barry, Let's make it

11
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,480
Speaker 1: a good one. Now, twelve billion dollars. We did tell

12
00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,280
Speaker 1: everybody this was going to happen, but now we've had

13
00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,440
Speaker 1: its confirmed. It's going to get to two percent of

14
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 1: GDP on defense spending up twelve billion over four years, and.

15
00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,479
Speaker 2: Nine billion of that is new spending. So next month's

16
00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,360
Speaker 2: budget will tell us exactly how they're going to afford that.

17
00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,960
Speaker 2: You know, this comes at a time of course when

18
00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,600
Speaker 2: the country can I'll afford additional money. But you know,

19
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040
Speaker 2: if you want to be a member of the international community,

20
00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,640
Speaker 2: you've got to spend on defense. It's your security in

21
00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480
Speaker 2: this part of the world. And we've seen the world

22
00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,960
Speaker 2: on a precipice over the past several months, and not

23
00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,840
Speaker 2: helped of course by the tariff war now being embarked

24
00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,240
Speaker 2: on by the American President. So yeah, I think certainly

25
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,240
Speaker 2: this money should be well spent. It depends on how

26
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,720
Speaker 2: good the aircraft. For example, they buy to replace the

27
00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,840
Speaker 2: seven five sevens. Now they are the aircraft that have

28
00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,080
Speaker 2: constantly broken down when the Prime Minister has been on

29
00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,760
Speaker 2: them traveling around the world with trade delegation. So they

30
00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,199
Speaker 2: are being replaced, and many would say not before time.

31
00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of trade and speaking of missions, Luxon's been on

32
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880
Speaker 1: a bit of one in the last twenty four hours.

33
00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560
Speaker 1: So this is his way of trying to control the narrative.

34
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,640
Speaker 1: You're not going to bash Trump, so what else can

35
00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,679
Speaker 1: you do. You go out there and you say we're

36
00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 1: talking free trade with our partners.

37
00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And interestingly, Winston Peters, as we mentioned earlier, seemed

38
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600
Speaker 2: to be a bit unsure about that, saying it was

39
00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640
Speaker 2: suggesting it was premature. But you know, we've got to

40
00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,840
Speaker 2: cover our backs in all of this. We, like the

41
00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 2: rest of the world at the moment, except for China

42
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 2: of course, are facing ten percent tariffs. So we've got

43
00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,800
Speaker 2: to look at possible trading blocks and the cpp TA

44
00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,720
Speaker 2: that was started by New Zealand that obviously can include

45
00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 2: others and even China is talking about looking at it now.

46
00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 2: And you imagine if China came aboard there. I don't

47
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,079
Speaker 2: think Trump would like it very much.

48
00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,160
Speaker 1: No, that's the opposite of what they want exactly.

49
00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Prime Minister has also spoken to the

50
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,440
Speaker 2: head of the European Union twenty seven countries there you

51
00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040
Speaker 2: know we, you know we trading blocks are the way

52
00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,559
Speaker 2: that the world could go in response to America effectively

53
00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,360
Speaker 2: isolating itself when it comes to trade.

54
00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,200
Speaker 1: Now, Tamitha Paul and the Sensible Sentencing Trust billboards were

55
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,239
Speaker 1: a bit of light relief this week barring.

56
00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,880
Speaker 2: Aren't they fantastic?

57
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,079
Speaker 1: They are quite funny, you.

58
00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,440
Speaker 2: Know, police defunded up police. A lot of being made

59
00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,639
Speaker 2: of it in the house and Tamotha Paul is very unrepentant. Interestingly,

60
00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,160
Speaker 2: the Greens didn't complain about the posters or the billboards.

61
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,919
Speaker 2: They're very good and very professional looking and it looks

62
00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,440
Speaker 2: as though the Green Party is actually advocating that now.

63
00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,120
Speaker 2: The billboards were put in both the central electorates of

64
00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,000
Speaker 2: two biggest cities in Wellington where Tamotha Paul is the

65
00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,920
Speaker 2: electorate MP, and in Auckland Central where Chloe Swallbreck is

66
00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 2: the MP. Now the stand by the Greens is patently ridiculous.

67
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 2: They haven't distanced themselves from Tamotha Tamotha Paul's claim that

68
00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280
Speaker 2: people feel uneasy when they see police on the beat.

69
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680
Speaker 2: Those polls that come out this week show the exact

70
00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,000
Speaker 2: opposite to be true. In big numbers, people do like

71
00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 2: to see more cops on the beat and feel much

72
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,520
Speaker 2: more safer as a result.

73
00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680
Speaker 1: Barrier to finish the week, the good will people of

74
00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,720
Speaker 1: News Zeland have managed to get their name in lights

75
00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720
Speaker 1: with the agreement between the Zealand First and National and

76
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,680
Speaker 1: they will get some preferential treatment and government contracts. But

77
00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960
Speaker 1: then today you have the Wood people coming out saying,

78
00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,960
Speaker 1: you know so well, we want it to, we want

79
00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,760
Speaker 1: it to. So have they created a precedent they didn't

80
00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,039
Speaker 1: want to?

81
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,920
Speaker 2: It is the problem, isn't it in picking favorites And

82
00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,960
Speaker 2: that's what the government's done here. It's saying a wall

83
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,840
Speaker 2: over synthetic Well, you know what about all the synthetic

84
00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,400
Speaker 2: carpet manufacturers as well, I mean they'll be saying, well,

85
00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,600
Speaker 2: hang on, you can't pick favorites off you're a government

86
00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,800
Speaker 2: and you can see the argument there. But also if

87
00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,760
Speaker 2: you are a government department, I think you should be

88
00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,640
Speaker 2: looking at our natural product, the stuff that we do

89
00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,120
Speaker 2: export usually. And similarly, when you talk on that vein,

90
00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 2: I think we should be looking at our bankers. For example,

91
00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,440
Speaker 2: the government banks with Westpac. Why not recapitalize Keywi Bank

92
00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,360
Speaker 2: and start our official bank thinking with that particular bank

93
00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,039
Speaker 2: rather than an Australian bank. So you know, I mean

94
00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,040
Speaker 2: this opens you could go on and I exactly opens

95
00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,359
Speaker 2: the door to so many areas.

96
00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,880
Speaker 1: All right, Berry, good to how it's been lovely working

97
00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,400
Speaker 1: with you over the last couple of months. I very

98
00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 1: much enjoyed doing that again.

99
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's be nice Ryan, And well don't out see

100
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,200
Speaker 2: you back again at some stage.

101
00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120
Speaker 1: Thanks, Barry, appreciate it. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent at

102
00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200
Speaker 1: News Talks Here. B it's just gone twenty after six. Next,

103
00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about Prince Harry where he's been after

104
00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,479
Speaker 1: being in court trying to get bodyguards. Kind of a

105
00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,000
Speaker 1: strange place for him to be, And I'll read you

106
00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,480
Speaker 1: the quotes from Phil Gough. That sounds boring, doesn't it.

107
00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,279
Speaker 1: I'll read you quotes from Phil goth They are interesting,

108
00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,800
Speaker 1: I promise, just because of how far he goes. Obviously

109
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000
Speaker 1: he felt like he was wrapped up in a ball

110
00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,039
Speaker 1: and chain over at Chathamhouse in London. Even though it

111
00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,479
Speaker 1: sounded bad what he said, he could have gone much further,

112
00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,000
Speaker 1: and he has at Auckland University, so I'll tell you

113
00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,640
Speaker 1: just how far. Twenty one after six. For more from

114
00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,920
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News Talks at

115
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,159
Speaker 1: b from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on

116
00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,119
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio