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Speaker 2: Hi there you're to get afternoon Welcome into Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: on News Talks NB for Sunday, March twenty second, Happy

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Speaker 2: birthday to a couple of current All Blacks. Happy thirty

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Speaker 2: sixth to Angus Tavo, Happy thirty first to Ethan Blackadder.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine, Show producer Andy McDonald. We are here

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Speaker 2: till three talking sport. Is it our year?

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Speaker 3: What Teni's a LASTNA picks it up, throws the offload

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Speaker 3: to take to a Picky and Hayden store.

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Speaker 2: You'll give it night to hands it on day. What

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Speaker 4: Moment for Worries on the very last name.

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Speaker 2: They've scored against the Nights again, three from three for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors, averaging forty points per game, top of the table.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Andrew Webster is with us after one o'clock

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Speaker 2: on the show today, Keen for your Warrior's calls as well.

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Speaker 2: Anywhere on the on the scale is fine, from utterly

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Speaker 2: unbounded enthusiasm to cautious pessimism or anywhere in between. What

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Speaker 2: did you see yesterday? And how big a selection headache? Now?

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Speaker 2: If you can call it that for Andrew Webster, when

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Speaker 2: Luke metcalf is fit? Because goodness me, how good is

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Speaker 2: Tanner boy going? After one? We'll talk Warriors first up today.

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Speaker 2: Though still no decision around the future of domestic T

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Speaker 2: twenty cricket here in New Zealand. The Board of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket met on Monday to discuss this, with a

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Speaker 2: focus supposedly reportedly on choosing between a privately owned local

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Speaker 2: become known, or creating a team to enter Australia's Big Bash.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to drill down a bit today into this

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Speaker 2: Australian Cricket writer Ben Horn with us in just a

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Speaker 2: moment to give us an Australian view, do they even

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Speaker 2: want us over there? And then I am very very

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Speaker 2: keen to hear your views on this and is there

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Speaker 2: an official outcome anywhere in our future? Where are week

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Speaker 2: one from Monday's board meeting? The clock is ticking. Can

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Speaker 2: we just have a decision one way or another on this?

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today on the cricket field thankfully and

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Speaker 2: International T twenty double header in a very sunny Wellington.

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Speaker 2: I can report White Ferns South Africa to forty five

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Speaker 2: then black Caps South Africa seven point fifteen, the fourth

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Speaker 2: matches of their respective five match series. New Zealand lely

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Speaker 2: South African counterparts to force a Game five decider. Brooke

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Speaker 2: Hell a day out of the White Ferns and Tim

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Speaker 2: Robinson out of the black Caps on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Jason Holland has been appointed Blues head coach from twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven on three year deal. Going to chat to

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Speaker 2: Jason Holland about that and one of New Zealand's most

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Speaker 2: promising young target shooters, Isaac junk He's off to the

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Speaker 2: World Champs in Germany in June. Going to chat to

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Speaker 2: him this afternoon as well. James mcconey in his regular

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Speaker 2: Sunday slot. Please get involved in the show if you

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Speaker 2: would like to. Couple of ways to do so. Oh

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty will get you. Throw

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Speaker 2: on the phone nine two ninety two for your text messages,

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Speaker 2: Coming up ten and a half past midday.

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Speaker 1: When there's a line call, it's your call. Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: Hev still no decision around the future of tomess Stick

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Speaker 2: It weighs up the pros and cons of those options,

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Speaker 2: First of all, do you think there's an appetite in

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Speaker 6: That still is yet to be fully determined. There was

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Speaker 6: I mean, the indication the other day was perhaps they'd

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Speaker 6: So look, I think I think it will happen in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it certainly doesn't help. I mean, Australia already

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Just on expansion of the Big Bash, is

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Speaker 2: So the problem we have over here what the big

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure this spone surprise you was that if

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Speaker 2: So you know, from the outside looking in, does it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. I mean you'd have to have some way

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Speaker 6: You know, if it was the chance to play in

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Speaker 2: Good only being Ben Hornet, chief cricket writer with the

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Speaker 2: So we come down to NZ twenty, a private franchise

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Speaker 2: in a domestic T twenty competition. When no Sky have

431
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Speaker 2: picked up the rights to cricket next summer, they have

432
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Speaker 2: left domestic cricket on the table. National cricket is what

433
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Speaker 2: they're after. So if the current domestic T twenty competition

434
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Speaker 2: isn't attractive to a broadcaster, then how would it be

435
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Speaker 2: if you take the top thirty players out of both

436
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Speaker 2: the men's and women's comps and who's going to pay

437
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Speaker 2: for it? Those players in those major associations are on

438
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Speaker 2: a domestic contract and that covers them appearing in T

439
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Speaker 2: twenty Cricket, Ford Trophy or fifty Over Cricket, Planket Shield

440
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Speaker 2: Four Day Cricket. If you take T twenty out of that,

441
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Speaker 2: what do those players do? What do they do in

442
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Speaker 2: late December and all of January? If there are a

443
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Speaker 2: couple of teams off playing in the Big Bash and

444
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Speaker 2: you're not in those teams, what do you do. Eight

445
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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine two ninety

446
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Speaker 2: two for your text messages twenty nine away from one

447
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Speaker 2: heaps of text coming through speed line if you want

448
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Speaker 2: to make your point though, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names in sport talk to Finy Weekend Sport

450
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Speaker 1: with Jason and GJ Guns New Zealand's most trusted home

451
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Speaker 1: builder News talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to one. When to get inside the White

453
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Speaker 2: Firms camp before one o'clock as well. They take on

454
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Speaker 2: South Africa this afternoon in Wellington to one In that series,

455
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Speaker 2: Brook Holiday going to chat to us before one talking

456
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Speaker 2: Big Bash though or the potential for a New Zealand

457
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Speaker 2: team or teams in the Big Bash. Can I Sean okay?

458
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Speaker 5: Finey?

459
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Speaker 10: How are you mate?

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Speaker 3: Very good?

461
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Speaker 2: Sean very good?

462
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Speaker 11: That's good?

463
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Speaker 10: Hey mate, I just might. I don't know you're talking

464
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Speaker 10: about can we sustain one of these leagues?

465
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Speaker 11: And what do we lose?

466
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Speaker 10: And I think the answer is we don't lose a

467
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Speaker 10: lot in terms of eyeballs on first class cricket because

468
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Speaker 10: there's not a lot on it anyway. If I'm honest,

469
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Speaker 10: like and I say this from a relatively informed position, Piney,

470
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Speaker 10: because I used to be a statisfician for Auckland Cricket

471
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Speaker 10: and New Zealand cricket, and I watched a lot of

472
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Speaker 10: first class cricket, but not a lot of other people did.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, I sure, I know, I know, and yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: like plunket shield crowds, I think you can probably announce

475
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Speaker 2: the crowd changes rather than the team changes most of

476
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Speaker 2: the time, if you get my drift. But in terms

477
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Speaker 2: of the in terms of the T twenty product, the

478
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Speaker 2: T twenty product, though, isn't that a reason though to

479
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Speaker 2: look at a way to reinvigorate at least the TEA

480
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Speaker 2: twenty part of our domestic game.

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Speaker 10: I just don't know that there is a domestic audience

482
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Speaker 10: to support it. And sending teams to the Big Bash

483
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Speaker 10: League probably does what New Zealand Crickets always relied on,

484
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Speaker 10: and that is the top level being colorful and fun

485
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Speaker 10: to watching us being moderately successful, and I think that

486
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Speaker 10: then sustains club cricket because it keeps enough interest in

487
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Speaker 10: the game. I don't think it happens at first class level.

488
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Speaker 10: I don't think it's like rugby league or something like that,

489
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Speaker 10: where you you've got a lot to lose, do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: There would still be a strong domestic competition for those

491
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Speaker 2: who didn't make the big bash teams. That's its hypothesize here.

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Speaker 2: You know what, what would the Plunket shield look like?

493
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Speaker 2: What would the fore trophy look like? Are you saying

494
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't look a lot different from the way they

495
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Speaker 2: look now.

496
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Speaker 10: I don't think you lose anything. I don't think anything

497
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Speaker 10: is better or worth I just think it's the same.

498
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Speaker 10: But we've got a couple of teams in a big

499
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Speaker 10: profile league which I think New Zealands is a get behind,

500
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Speaker 10: and I think that would increase the profile of Crest

501
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Speaker 10: and Newsial and not decrease it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. A big part of

503
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Speaker 2: me just thinks would be nice to give it a

504
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Speaker 2: crack ourselves. You don't think that's worth.

505
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Speaker 10: It might be, but I just don't. I don't know

506
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Speaker 10: that the product would be big enough for it to

507
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Speaker 10: be good enough to drag lots of kiwis into it

508
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Speaker 10: sort of thing. And I don't know that our time

509
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Speaker 10: zone support a.

510
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Speaker 12: Big international audience.

511
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Speaker 10: Not but I could, I mean could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you sound like a massive cricket. I mean,

513
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Speaker 2: if you're involved in cricket stats obviously a big, big

514
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Speaker 2: cricket fan.

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Speaker 13: You're not doing it anymore, No, mate, it's a long

516
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Speaker 13: You've got to spend a long time with the crickets

517
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Speaker 13: doing that sort of stuff and it's awesome, but at

518
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Speaker 13: some point other things are going to be a priority

519
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Speaker 13: in life.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I hear you, mate, I hear you. Good on

522
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Speaker 2: you sure, thanks for calling him mate? Drive safe? Yeah,

523
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Speaker 2: lo I get I get Sean's point. I totally do.

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Speaker 2: And Chris is from before that maybe we're just biting

525
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Speaker 2: off more that we can than we can chew. But

526
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Speaker 2: shouldn't we give it a crack? Shouldn't we give it

527
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Speaker 2: a go? What is the worst that could happen? You

528
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Speaker 2: stand up a franchise league and attract some owners. And

529
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Speaker 2: as I understand it, and as I've been told, there

530
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Speaker 2: are people who want to invest in the league and

531
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Speaker 2: in the six franchises they want to own them. There

532
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Speaker 2: are t twenty leagues popping up all round the place

533
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Speaker 2: with ambition and with you know, people who want to

534
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Speaker 2: be involved. And I guess you have to at least

535
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Speaker 2: think positively and say, would New Zealand be an attractive

536
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Speaker 2: place for an international cricketer to come and play a

537
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Speaker 2: T twenty competition in January. And I think the answer

538
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Speaker 2: is yes, isn't it. The proposal is for these games

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Speaker 2: to be played in our holiday locations mentioned. If you

540
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Speaker 2: are based in Queenstown for a month, bring your family,

541
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Speaker 2: play your cricket, your home games anyway in Queenstown, travel

542
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Speaker 2: around the other holiday locations up to Nelson, Mount Monganui, Napier.

543
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Speaker 2: Of course the big centers as well would have some games.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like we need to give it a crack.

545
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Speaker 2: I feel like the Big Bash is always going to

546
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Speaker 2: be there. If it doesn't work, then we just, you know,

547
00:29:36,547 --> 00:29:38,067
Speaker 2: we say, well, at least we gave it a go.

548
00:29:39,107 --> 00:29:43,427
Speaker 2: We gave it a go, We tried it out and

549
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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it didn't work. But let's not make

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Speaker 2: that decision before we've given it a go. If, as

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Speaker 2: I understand it, the money is there that people want

552
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Speaker 2: to invest, and that it could be stood up even

553
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Speaker 2: though the clock is ticking, it could be stood up

554
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Speaker 2: in time for next summer, then why don't we give

555
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Speaker 2: it a go?

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Speaker 14: Hey Chris, Yeah yeah, Jason, Yeah, I haven't spoken to

557
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Speaker 14: you for a while look the twenty twenty Look, I mean,

558
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Speaker 14: I'm predominantly a test man. I do watch the World Cup.

559
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Speaker 14: I don't watch I don't really watch the BVL or

560
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Speaker 14: the ENDI in League. But don't you think we've got

561
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Speaker 14: enough twenty twenty? I mean, like Cole, I mean, Carl

562
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Speaker 14: Jamison made a good point for this meaning meaningless series

563
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Speaker 14: against South Africa and the men's not the ladies because

564
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Speaker 14: they need that for the World Cup. But he said

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Speaker 14: at the airport when he was interviewed. I don't know

566
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Speaker 14: if you saw him, he said, it's a pity that

567
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Speaker 14: the powers and powers of bea don't look look, don't

568
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Speaker 14: look out for a spider.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, Chris, I absolutely agreed that there's far

570
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Speaker 2: too much by lateral T twenty cricket. I mean, to

571
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Speaker 2: be honest with him, mate, T twenty cricket should be

572
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Speaker 2: franchised in World Cups. That's it.

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Speaker 12: I know.

574
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Speaker 2: It makes money for you know, for associations, and the

575
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Speaker 2: reason we've got this five match series here at the

576
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Speaker 2: moment is so that you know, New Zealand Cricket can

577
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Speaker 2: can make some revenue from it, both through the gates

578
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Speaker 2: and broadcast wise. But yeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I look, I can't remember who top scored for US

580
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Speaker 2: in game one and it's game four today. I can't

581
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Speaker 2: even remember what's been happening in these games, you know,

582
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Speaker 2: But I really, yeah, if the T twenty game is

583
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Speaker 2: going to be played here, then I feel like it

584
00:31:20,987 --> 00:31:24,827
Speaker 2: should be played by you know, our best New Zealand players,

585
00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:29,547
Speaker 2: has the Super Smashers, flavored with international talent and played

586
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Speaker 2: in the holiday locations in the warmest month of January.

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Speaker 14: Totally agree with you. It's a shame that they've had

588
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Speaker 14: to had to play one. I mean that match is

589
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Speaker 14: Hidden Park. It was really I mean there was, but

590
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Speaker 14: at least they got more more than the Blues get.

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Speaker 14: The Blues that usually only get three men and the dog.

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Speaker 5: At least the.

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Speaker 14: Cricket got a bit more. But but the thing was opin. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: play at the Holliday ocations, don't play it. Don't play

595
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Speaker 14: at the Warrington Stadium, war at Eden Park. They should

596
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Speaker 14: have played that game on number two the other another

597
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Speaker 14: the other night at eden Park there.

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Speaker 2: I know they put the drone up cross. I thought

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Speaker 2: there were a few there, more than I thought. Actually

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Speaker 2: Friday night doubleheader. I know you mean, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a conversation for another day. You know,

602
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Speaker 2: there's no no sort of in between venue and Auckland.

603
00:32:14,827 --> 00:32:16,747
Speaker 2: Is there where you could like in Wellington you know

604
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Speaker 2: they're playing this game at the stadium today, they could

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Speaker 2: easily use the basin. Basin looks great with eight thousand

606
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Speaker 2: in Eden Park. Doesn't look great with eight thousand it.

607
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Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe that's a conversation for another day. Good

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Speaker 2: on you, Chris Hey Cliff.

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Speaker 11: Yah finding he's touching on the old. The cricket this

610
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Speaker 11: year for the rest of the year are parly busy.

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Speaker 11: They've got a tour of Bangladesh coming out, then they

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Speaker 11: go to England, then they've got to West these white

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Speaker 11: ball series. Then they've got and you sim tour of

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Speaker 11: Australia to SeeMe the for the three Test matches, and

615
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Speaker 11: then we get Stravenka that year for two Tests and

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Speaker 11: some owning what only os T twenties January February. Then

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Speaker 11: we go to Pakistan March. So if we're going to

618
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Speaker 11: fit in a big bash, it has to wait until

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Speaker 11: well something different. It's got to wait until our schedule

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Speaker 11: gives us an opening to go into January because that's

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Speaker 11: when we overset the want because if they can't get

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Speaker 11: it in Australia, they like to keep this pajama stuff

623
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Speaker 11: going all year if they can, just to please the

624
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Speaker 11: Indian viewers because that's where most of the money comes

625
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Speaker 11: out of and they want to see T twenty cricket

626
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Speaker 11: played around the world around the whole year, and you

627
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Speaker 11: know West Indies, South Africa, US bit of England stuff

628
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Speaker 11: and then something in US India itself. But it's got

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Speaker 11: to fit in our schedule. And then if we're going

630
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Speaker 11: to done down our four day cricket, one day cricket

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Speaker 11: to pajama stuff, big Bash through January all the time,

632
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Speaker 11: we will end up with a weaker four day competition

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Speaker 11: which will affect their Test side going forward. Because I

634
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Speaker 11: just don't see guys like you O'Rourke, Jamison, Duffy, Henry.

635
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Speaker 11: These guys are all to the next generation, are all

636
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Speaker 11: going to play white ball twenties to make easy money.

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Speaker 2: I think they still cover the the international game, Cliff

638
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Speaker 2: and I always use right and Ravendra as an example here.

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Speaker 2: He can make a lot of money obviously playing franchise

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00:34:44,947 --> 00:34:47,147
Speaker 2: cricket around the world if he wants to he wouldn't

641
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Speaker 2: have to play international cricket at all. He'd make a

642
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Speaker 2: heck of a lot more money just being a you know,

643
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Speaker 2: a gun for hire. But he covers the international game.

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Speaker 2: And what you hope, and maybe this is naive, is

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Speaker 2: that the next generation of cricket has also covered the

646
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Speaker 2: red bull game as I do, as I know you

647
00:35:03,747 --> 00:35:07,187
Speaker 2: probably do, you know, and that there is a place

648
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Speaker 2: for that in amongst the franchise cricket that they play

649
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Speaker 2: to make sure that they are in the living that

650
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Speaker 2: they can.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I mean every cricketer wants to be a

652
00:35:18,267 --> 00:35:21,627
Speaker 15: score one hundred in a Test match at some venue

653
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Speaker 15: that's really specific to us or overseas, and you know,

654
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Speaker 15: not all guys want to be a twenty twenty player,

655
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Speaker 15: and sometimes that's not their style. You know, someone like

656
00:35:32,947 --> 00:35:36,387
Speaker 15: Ravender can get a contract to play in the IPL

657
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Speaker 15: and a few others, but it's not everybody's game. And

658
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Speaker 15: lost I think I've mentioned in the past that New

659
00:35:43,267 --> 00:35:46,947
Speaker 15: Zealand cricket the twenty twenty needs to be kept firmly

660
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Speaker 15: separate out of the the other grades, you know, with

661
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Speaker 15: Latham and Conway, Nisham and all these guys still playing

662
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Speaker 15: in our twenty twenty side. At the moment, it's taken

663
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Speaker 15: players from who come young guys that are specialists already

664
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Speaker 15: in that twenty twenty form that they keep bringing the

665
00:36:06,547 --> 00:36:11,267
Speaker 15: test plays back and to fill up numbers the same. Look,

666
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Speaker 15: if this woman's series hadn't have been bodied up with

667
00:36:14,947 --> 00:36:17,587
Speaker 15: the men, I think there'll be very little interest in

668
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Speaker 15: the ladies game here at all. And look, it's purely

669
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Speaker 15: to keep people going. The cost of putting on a

670
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Speaker 15: game that's not really that interesting to most of the public,

671
00:36:29,587 --> 00:36:31,547
Speaker 15: you're not going to get people going there. They can't

672
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Speaker 15: charge at the gate for the women's game. They didn't

673
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Speaker 15: charge it to the end the other day. So it's

674
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Speaker 15: it's what it is. You know. You've just got to

675
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Speaker 15: get the money from whoever can get paid, and that's

676
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Speaker 15: where it is.

677
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Speaker 2: Thanks Cliff. Look, I see, I see. It's more interest

678
00:36:48,947 --> 00:36:52,587
Speaker 2: in the women's series than the men's simply because of

679
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:55,387
Speaker 2: context and the strength of the sides. You're right about

680
00:36:55,387 --> 00:36:58,427
Speaker 2: the New Zealand and South African men's sides. You compare

681
00:36:58,427 --> 00:37:00,267
Speaker 2: the men's sides that are playing at the moment to

682
00:37:00,307 --> 00:37:03,147
Speaker 2: the sides that met in the semi final of the

683
00:37:03,147 --> 00:37:06,147
Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup. I think maybe half a dozen guys

684
00:37:06,347 --> 00:37:08,747
Speaker 2: across the two teams, so we're here. That shows the

685
00:37:08,947 --> 00:37:13,067
Speaker 2: relative strength in terms of pinnacle tournaments. By contrast, both

686
00:37:13,067 --> 00:37:15,347
Speaker 2: of these women's sides are top sites because they have

687
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Speaker 2: a T twenty World Cup in the middle of the

688
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Speaker 2: year to prepare for. Thanks Cliff, appreciate it. Dall us

689
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Speaker 2: hold there with you after this thirteen and a half

690
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Speaker 2: to one New STALKSB.

691
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Speaker 1: You don't stay on the sidelines. Call eight hundred eighty

692
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Speaker 1: ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Ben and GJ. Gardner

693
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Speaker 1: Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News TALKSB.

694
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Speaker 2: News Talks B eleven to one. Jason says this text,

695
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Speaker 2: you are one hundred percent wrong on this Big Bash

696
00:37:40,387 --> 00:37:43,027
Speaker 2: only way to go. Our population can't support our own

697
00:37:43,027 --> 00:37:45,587
Speaker 2: comp No one will turn up, not enough dollars to

698
00:37:45,587 --> 00:37:48,187
Speaker 2: bring internationals here. I think local cricket will actually do

699
00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:50,947
Speaker 2: better as there are Clara avenues to now play in

700
00:37:50,947 --> 00:37:53,387
Speaker 2: the Big Bash and earn more money. Thank you for

701
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Speaker 2: your text. I don't agree, but thank you for your text.

702
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Speaker 2: Hello Dallas.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I agree with you, Piney for two reasons. One,

704
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Speaker 16: we have to think about the price of flying international

705
00:38:04,107 --> 00:38:07,467
Speaker 16: flying might be exorbitant and a few years, who knows

706
00:38:07,507 --> 00:38:10,787
Speaker 16: what's happening with the jet fuel price. So that's one

707
00:38:10,787 --> 00:38:15,947
Speaker 16: consideration for moving international players around the world. Secondly, the

708
00:38:15,987 --> 00:38:19,267
Speaker 16: guy you had on from Australia, he wasn't too convinced that.

709
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Speaker 17: The big this big Bash idea were including New Zealand

710
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Speaker 17: would even take place for another three or four years,

711
00:38:27,707 --> 00:38:30,747
Speaker 17: so you know, it's and he was talking about maybe

712
00:38:30,787 --> 00:38:34,907
Speaker 17: they'll take it to Singapore things like that, so it's

713
00:38:34,947 --> 00:38:37,467
Speaker 17: not even guarantee that they'd welcome us anyway.

714
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Speaker 16: So I think you're right if we can get.

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Speaker 17: Something going from this coming summer, Yeah, let's crack into

716
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Speaker 17: it and give it a bash.

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Speaker 16: Excuse the punt, and.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right because that he's talking

719
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Speaker 8: about three or four years anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dallas that said doesn't know is that the

721
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Speaker 2: clock is ticking. What are we now were it'll be

722
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Speaker 2: April next week or the week after. And like I said,

723
00:39:05,867 --> 00:39:07,947
Speaker 2: that was one of my concerns was the longer this goes,

724
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Speaker 2: the shorter the time frame for standing something up next summer.

725
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Speaker 2: We're certainly not going to have a New Zealand side

726
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Speaker 2: the big bash next summer. So what about domestic cricketers

727
00:39:15,467 --> 00:39:17,147
Speaker 2: do next summer? There's no big bash. If that's the

728
00:39:17,187 --> 00:39:19,147
Speaker 2: way they decide to go, as you say, that won't

729
00:39:19,147 --> 00:39:23,467
Speaker 2: happen for at least another summer or two. So what

730
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Speaker 2: do we do in the meantime? We just kicking the

731
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Speaker 2: can down the road, don't we. Yeah, it might be naive,

732
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Speaker 2: but let's just do something. Let's not sit on our

733
00:39:31,627 --> 00:39:33,947
Speaker 2: hands and let's do something good. To chat to your

734
00:39:33,987 --> 00:39:37,307
Speaker 2: dellas things. Indeed, Ponty, good afternoon, says Kadama on the

735
00:39:37,307 --> 00:39:40,467
Speaker 2: subject of cricket. Can you see a similarity between the

736
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Speaker 2: current board of New Zealand Cricket and the previous board

737
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Speaker 2: of Netborn, New Zealand. That board were found to be

738
00:39:45,787 --> 00:39:47,627
Speaker 2: sitting on their hands. To me, the current cricket board

739
00:39:47,667 --> 00:39:49,427
Speaker 2: are doing the same. And as well as the hand sitting,

740
00:39:49,987 --> 00:39:53,307
Speaker 2: there's another common factor, a lack of communication. But as

741
00:39:53,307 --> 00:39:55,467
Speaker 2: you point out, funding in a full yearly program are

742
00:39:55,547 --> 00:39:59,027
Speaker 2: other matters. It's almost as though they cannot multitask and

743
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Speaker 2: have to set all one sub factor before they tackle another.

744
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Speaker 2: I heard a former New Zealand cricketer, Oh so is

745
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Speaker 2: Kyle Mills. I heard Carl Mills during the week on

746
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Speaker 2: another radio station with some extremely harsh criticism of the board. Now,

747
00:40:16,427 --> 00:40:19,867
Speaker 2: of course, you know declaration of interest. Carl Mills is

748
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Speaker 2: the brother of Heath Mills, the former head of the

749
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Speaker 2: Players Association, so you know that's that's his strident viewpoint

750
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Speaker 2: that he, as a former player, I think, is siding

751
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Speaker 2: with all of the current players on this and not

752
00:40:32,627 --> 00:40:35,387
Speaker 2: side we want to take in sides here. Let's just

753
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Speaker 2: have a decision. Can we the board met on Monday,

754
00:40:40,947 --> 00:40:44,827
Speaker 2: It's Sunday. Why can't we have a decision of some

755
00:40:44,947 --> 00:40:47,827
Speaker 2: sort seven to one News Talks.

756
00:40:47,627 --> 00:40:52,987
Speaker 1: MB analyzing the plays and getting the insight Weekend Sport

757
00:40:53,307 --> 00:40:56,587
Speaker 1: with Jason Vine News Talks MB four to one.

758
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Speaker 2: Thanks for all your cause of correspondence on the cricket

759
00:40:58,347 --> 00:41:00,467
Speaker 2: really intriguing discussion. Like I say, I hope that the

760
00:41:00,507 --> 00:41:02,507
Speaker 2: next couple of days gives us some sort of resolution

761
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:05,187
Speaker 2: or some sort of decision or some sort of progress

762
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Speaker 2: around what our domestic T twenty competition is going to

763
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Speaker 2: look like. We will keep you up to date with

764
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Speaker 2: those decisions as and when they arrive after one o'clock

765
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Speaker 2: The Warriors, How good? How good was that? Gee? I

766
00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:24,867
Speaker 2: love watching this team. I'm absolutely loving it, as I

767
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Speaker 2: hope you are as well. Head coach of the Warriors,

768
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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster with us Live after one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

770
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Speaker 1: an a pad off the field.

771
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Speaker 18: You've got a score.

772
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Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your

773
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Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks NB.

774
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Speaker 2: Hello, there, this is Weekend Sport on News Talks dB

775
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Speaker 2: one O seven. I'm Jason Pine. Hanny McDonald is running

776
00:41:51,947 --> 00:41:55,107
Speaker 2: the cutter. We're had till three after two Jason Holland.

777
00:41:55,107 --> 00:41:56,587
Speaker 2: He might have heard him in the Sports News there.

778
00:41:57,427 --> 00:42:01,227
Speaker 2: He has in the last day or so been confirmed

779
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Speaker 2: as the new head coach of the Blues from next year.

780
00:42:04,747 --> 00:42:06,067
Speaker 2: He's going to have you on to us after two

781
00:42:06,067 --> 00:42:11,267
Speaker 2: o'clock about that. Looking forward to that the Warriors. Meantime,

782
00:42:11,707 --> 00:42:15,227
Speaker 2: let's get them in the spotlight. How good are I going?

783
00:42:15,747 --> 00:42:20,267
Speaker 2: How good are they going? Right now? Marking multiple special

784
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Speaker 2: occasions with a thirty eight to twelve win over their hosts,

785
00:42:24,227 --> 00:42:27,747
Speaker 2: the Newcastle Knights, a third straight victory to open the

786
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Speaker 2: NRL season.

787
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Speaker 3: Under massive pressure Newcastle by melt Nut Hegan on the

788
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Speaker 3: bye it's fine at the short coat, the front rowers.

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Speaker 19: Canbine and Jackson Ford gets a try in his milestone game.

790
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Speaker 2: Now that's Jackson Ford grabbing one of three first half

791
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Speaker 2: tries on his one hundredth first grade appearance or during it,

792
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Speaker 2: debutante Luke Hanson adding the final blow, and co captain

793
00:42:56,027 --> 00:42:59,067
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnett got a try assist in thirty eight minutes

794
00:42:59,107 --> 00:43:02,667
Speaker 2: of action on his return from a serious knee injury.

795
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Speaker 2: Head coach Andrew Webster joins US just ahead of the

796
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Speaker 2: team's fly home from Sydney. Andrew, thanks for taking our call.

797
00:43:10,947 --> 00:43:14,707
Speaker 2: Congratulations on another eye catching when what part of the

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Speaker 2: performance are you happiest about and are you proudest of?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm definitely proud of some milestones, that's for sure,

800
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Speaker 20: and that they all played well in their milestones. Mitch

801
00:43:25,947 --> 00:43:28,067
Speaker 20: Barney was also playing a city of game for him

802
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Speaker 20: for US. I was really happy with Marada where he returned. God,

803
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Speaker 20: he was awesome. Girds probably don't know, but it was

804
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Speaker 20: extremely humid there and the heavy deck and the boys,

805
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Speaker 20: you know what, wasn't an easy dattle. But we thought

806
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Speaker 20: I thought we'd broken down slowly put some pressure on him,

807
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Speaker 20: and then I thought we struck and when the opportunity

808
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Speaker 20: came with our attack, which is, please.

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Speaker 2: How patient did you have to be or did the

810
00:43:56,467 --> 00:43:59,947
Speaker 2: players have to be in terms of, you know, waiting

811
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Speaker 2: for that opportunity to strike and then executing so well

812
00:44:02,707 --> 00:44:04,067
Speaker 2: when those opportunities came.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, left a couple out there, really like when I

814
00:44:08,547 --> 00:44:10,627
Speaker 20: think they had twelve men in the first half. We

815
00:44:11,547 --> 00:44:13,947
Speaker 20: asked a couple late, but we also missed a show.

816
00:44:14,587 --> 00:44:17,347
Speaker 20: But yeah, you've got to be patient every week really

817
00:44:17,587 --> 00:44:20,947
Speaker 20: to be honest, and it was really good that we've

818
00:44:21,107 --> 00:44:23,227
Speaker 20: showed that. I mean, I thought we can try us

819
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Speaker 20: is for Lequa for a half times just all the

820
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Speaker 20: back of pressure, it's all the opportunity. John Debut calls

821
00:44:29,387 --> 00:44:31,587
Speaker 20: for the footing and then he pumps the foot and

822
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Speaker 20: puts we try us. You've got to be patient, you

823
00:44:34,947 --> 00:44:37,227
Speaker 20: go for working to them and then when you see

824
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Speaker 20: the opportunity to get like you said, you got etecute.

825
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Speaker 20: We left a few out there, but as a whole

826
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Speaker 20: will pretty good.

827
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Speaker 2: Three wins from three to start the season. Are you

828
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Speaker 2: seeing the same things which are consistently leading to you,

829
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Speaker 2: you know, getting the outcomes you're after across the three games,

830
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Speaker 2: or has there been an evolution during the first three weeks.

831
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Speaker 20: I was an evolution of the way we're attacking, but

832
00:44:59,707 --> 00:45:03,707
Speaker 20: it's coming from the pressure we're creating. So like it's

833
00:45:04,187 --> 00:45:06,907
Speaker 20: we're calling a complimentary football at the moment, both are

834
00:45:07,347 --> 00:45:11,347
Speaker 20: complimenting each other. So the attacks easing the pressure of defense,

835
00:45:11,387 --> 00:45:15,907
Speaker 20: but our defenses creating that pressure on our position. But

836
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Speaker 20: there's also what the things that we got wrong and

837
00:45:18,827 --> 00:45:21,387
Speaker 20: they were not proud of at a review this morning,

838
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Speaker 20: And there's a pattern there when we don't do it

839
00:45:25,987 --> 00:45:28,067
Speaker 20: the way we meant to do it, we're the ones

840
00:45:28,067 --> 00:45:31,667
Speaker 20: that are under pressure and we're find on our scramble

841
00:45:31,707 --> 00:45:34,227
Speaker 20: and our effort, which is great, but we can be

842
00:45:34,267 --> 00:45:36,427
Speaker 20: a lot more efficient the way we do things. So

843
00:45:37,067 --> 00:45:39,467
Speaker 20: Camber a little much more efficient with our kick Chase

844
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Speaker 20: than we were yesterday.

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Speaker 2: What are the sorts of things did you did you

846
00:45:43,307 --> 00:45:44,747
Speaker 2: show the players in the review today?

847
00:45:46,267 --> 00:45:49,667
Speaker 20: Just just that connection, just a couple of tries we

848
00:45:49,667 --> 00:45:52,587
Speaker 20: were really happy with. Yeah, and just showed how we

849
00:45:52,627 --> 00:45:56,067
Speaker 20: got to kick Chase wrong. But you know, when we

850
00:45:56,107 --> 00:45:58,867
Speaker 20: got a riot, this is what it did. So yeah,

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00:45:58,947 --> 00:46:01,627
Speaker 20: that was pretty pretty short and chart this morning, and

852
00:46:01,667 --> 00:46:04,347
Speaker 20: then we'll get back and have a full review again

853
00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:05,827
Speaker 20: at the week one.

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00:46:05,827 --> 00:46:08,267
Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty points across three games. That's always going

855
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:10,547
Speaker 2: to get headlines. But are you as pleased, if not more,

856
00:46:10,587 --> 00:46:13,507
Speaker 2: about the fact you've only conceded thirty six in the

857
00:46:13,547 --> 00:46:14,187
Speaker 2: three games.

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00:46:14,947 --> 00:46:18,707
Speaker 20: Yep, no, definitely. That's why it's all about complimentary footy.

859
00:46:18,707 --> 00:46:21,627
Speaker 20: I think both are pleasing. If you're defending well and

860
00:46:21,627 --> 00:46:24,187
Speaker 20: you're scrambling, you know, let him across your line, then

861
00:46:24,187 --> 00:46:25,787
Speaker 20: it gives you an opportunity to go down to score

862
00:46:26,267 --> 00:46:29,827
Speaker 20: instead of being behind stix. So you're really happy that

863
00:46:29,947 --> 00:46:34,787
Speaker 20: disappointed two weeks in a row, six meel down. The

864
00:46:34,907 --> 00:46:41,187
Speaker 20: slow starts just not not good enough really, So yeah's

865
00:46:41,227 --> 00:46:42,067
Speaker 20: we can fix that up.

866
00:46:42,907 --> 00:46:44,827
Speaker 2: And we'll ask you about a couple of players tenor boys.

867
00:46:44,827 --> 00:46:47,947
Speaker 2: The first one probably your best player across the first

868
00:46:47,947 --> 00:46:50,147
Speaker 2: three games, steering the team brilliantly. What have you made

869
00:46:50,147 --> 00:46:53,547
Speaker 2: of his his clarity, his control and his leadership of

870
00:46:53,587 --> 00:46:54,267
Speaker 2: this side.

871
00:46:54,907 --> 00:46:57,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, and it's been awesome. I think he's play calling.

872
00:46:57,867 --> 00:47:00,827
Speaker 20: I think when we have a play and then we

873
00:47:00,947 --> 00:47:04,147
Speaker 20: break down somewhere, then the next play calls and he

874
00:47:04,747 --> 00:47:07,067
Speaker 20: puts everyone in a great position on the next player.

875
00:47:07,067 --> 00:47:10,387
Speaker 20: He's so clear, So therefore everyone knows their role and

876
00:47:10,427 --> 00:47:13,547
Speaker 20: then he's running the football. But I was really pleased

877
00:47:13,587 --> 00:47:15,587
Speaker 20: he put on a couple of shots yesterday and forced

878
00:47:15,587 --> 00:47:16,427
Speaker 20: a couple of errors.

879
00:47:16,187 --> 00:47:16,627
Speaker 8: Too, So.

880
00:47:18,347 --> 00:47:22,747
Speaker 20: It's just not it's just not his attack or his control.

881
00:47:23,387 --> 00:47:26,467
Speaker 20: I just love how he's put himself in the game

882
00:47:26,507 --> 00:47:27,867
Speaker 20: through his defense in his attack.

883
00:47:28,667 --> 00:47:30,947
Speaker 2: Have you been encouraging him to run with the ball more?

884
00:47:31,907 --> 00:47:32,147
Speaker 11: Yes?

885
00:47:32,707 --> 00:47:36,867
Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, I think Tanna, this is too much of

886
00:47:36,907 --> 00:47:40,227
Speaker 20: an organizer, like he was controlling things but not playing.

887
00:47:40,707 --> 00:47:44,307
Speaker 20: All the good half backs play, they run the footage

888
00:47:44,387 --> 00:47:48,507
Speaker 20: whilst control controlling the game. He's controlling his kicking games,

889
00:47:48,547 --> 00:47:51,587
Speaker 20: controlling with his voice. But you've got to be able

890
00:47:51,627 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 20: to put pressure on the opposition with the way he

891
00:47:53,387 --> 00:47:56,427
Speaker 20: run the footage because people don't realize he's fast, it's

892
00:47:56,587 --> 00:48:01,827
Speaker 20: nippy off the mark, he's hard to tackle. So all

893
00:48:01,867 --> 00:48:04,027
Speaker 20: good half backs have to do both. And he's starting

894
00:48:04,067 --> 00:48:06,147
Speaker 20: to get that mix, which is really cool.

895
00:48:06,387 --> 00:48:10,307
Speaker 2: Have you thought about the selection decisions, even dilemmas you'll

896
00:48:10,307 --> 00:48:13,027
Speaker 2: have when Luke Metcalfe's foot, when Tomightty Martin comes back,

897
00:48:13,027 --> 00:48:14,787
Speaker 2: Shanell comes back. I mean, Luke Hanson had a good

898
00:48:14,787 --> 00:48:18,187
Speaker 2: debut yesterday. Have you thought about those selection decisions.

899
00:48:18,347 --> 00:48:22,147
Speaker 20: I haven't yet. Just hit me too often, those those

900
00:48:22,187 --> 00:48:24,987
Speaker 20: ones that you start thinking you own in one direction,

901
00:48:25,067 --> 00:48:27,347
Speaker 20: this is how it's going to be, and then something

902
00:48:27,947 --> 00:48:31,107
Speaker 20: happens through an injury or someone starts playing poor form.

903
00:48:31,267 --> 00:48:34,427
Speaker 20: So when you have that headache that particular week, that's

904
00:48:34,427 --> 00:48:37,027
Speaker 20: when you make the call and you worry about it then.

905
00:48:38,747 --> 00:48:42,947
Speaker 20: Right now, I'm just focused on improvement today and when

906
00:48:42,947 --> 00:48:45,387
Speaker 20: that situation arises, then we'll think about it then. But

907
00:48:45,427 --> 00:48:48,507
Speaker 20: it's a good headache, really good headache. So happy with that.

908
00:48:48,827 --> 00:48:52,027
Speaker 2: Mits Barnet's return seemed to bring real energy. What did

909
00:48:52,027 --> 00:48:53,467
Speaker 2: he add to the group and how good was it

910
00:48:53,507 --> 00:48:54,387
Speaker 2: to have him back out there?

911
00:48:55,227 --> 00:48:58,387
Speaker 20: It was amazing having back to do what he did

912
00:48:58,387 --> 00:49:00,747
Speaker 20: in his first game. His kick offs there, aggressive he was,

913
00:49:01,787 --> 00:49:04,907
Speaker 20: but just showed no fear for a return from an acl.

914
00:49:05,507 --> 00:49:09,747
Speaker 20: He laid on a nice try. It's just his he say,

915
00:49:09,827 --> 00:49:11,947
Speaker 20: demanding with what he wants from his teammates and he

916
00:49:12,027 --> 00:49:16,227
Speaker 20: leads away. Yeah, just happing back on the shield.

917
00:49:16,507 --> 00:49:18,867
Speaker 2: And I know players don't need milestone games to lift

918
00:49:18,907 --> 00:49:22,187
Speaker 2: their effort levels, but how good was Jackson Ford across

919
00:49:22,187 --> 00:49:24,347
Speaker 2: eighty minutes and as one hundred then our roll game.

920
00:49:25,347 --> 00:49:28,107
Speaker 20: It's amazing, mate, he was absolutely amazing. But I'll say

921
00:49:29,027 --> 00:49:32,787
Speaker 20: I'll say Jackie has been doing that for a long time.

922
00:49:33,107 --> 00:49:38,547
Speaker 20: People are starting to realize it. And on a fleet, well,

923
00:49:38,627 --> 00:49:42,147
Speaker 20: I think we we've been celebrating eternally, but now everyone's

924
00:49:42,147 --> 00:49:45,507
Speaker 20: starting to notice. And he's been doing that for the

925
00:49:45,627 --> 00:49:46,387
Speaker 20: last three years.

926
00:49:46,467 --> 00:49:48,307
Speaker 11: So it's really cool.

927
00:49:48,627 --> 00:49:52,147
Speaker 2: And morgan Gannon's debut unfortunately only five minutes due to

928
00:49:52,787 --> 00:49:55,107
Speaker 2: a head knock. How worrying is that for you? We'll

929
00:49:55,107 --> 00:49:57,907
Speaker 2: be given his concussion history at Leeds.

930
00:49:59,307 --> 00:50:01,427
Speaker 20: Mate, that would anyone would have been con custom that.

931
00:50:02,507 --> 00:50:04,427
Speaker 20: It's the way they pull up, It's the way he's

932
00:50:04,467 --> 00:50:07,587
Speaker 20: today's in good shape, he's good up the game. So

933
00:50:07,747 --> 00:50:11,947
Speaker 20: it's just just scuttered, disappointed that, you know, he's thought

934
00:50:11,987 --> 00:50:14,747
Speaker 20: so hard and worked so hard to get to Australia

935
00:50:14,787 --> 00:50:18,987
Speaker 20: and the playing the RL and you know it's round

936
00:50:18,987 --> 00:50:21,507
Speaker 20: three and he forced his way into the team and

937
00:50:21,867 --> 00:50:25,507
Speaker 20: just disappointing for him. But we know he'll be back

938
00:50:25,547 --> 00:50:27,347
Speaker 20: there and better. And I said down after the game,

939
00:50:27,427 --> 00:50:30,307
Speaker 20: like we're wanting to play two hundred games at our club.

940
00:50:30,467 --> 00:50:34,747
Speaker 20: He said, he's only gone so it's only won one game.

941
00:50:34,787 --> 00:50:37,787
Speaker 20: To find a career, so unfortunately didn't go well, it's

942
00:50:37,827 --> 00:50:42,547
Speaker 20: going to move on and for the next game and.

943
00:50:42,507 --> 00:50:45,827
Speaker 2: A cool success like this and performances like this bring

944
00:50:46,467 --> 00:50:48,947
Speaker 2: expectation and a lot of excitement and the fan base.

945
00:50:49,747 --> 00:50:52,507
Speaker 2: What are your strategies for making sure that hype doesn't

946
00:50:52,547 --> 00:50:55,067
Speaker 2: become a distraction Internally.

947
00:50:56,667 --> 00:50:59,707
Speaker 20: I think the hype site. I think when when we're

948
00:50:59,707 --> 00:51:01,227
Speaker 20: winning games, stands proud.

949
00:51:02,427 --> 00:51:03,907
Speaker 5: They have have a really good.

950
00:51:03,747 --> 00:51:07,147
Speaker 20: Way to work. You know, they're really happy talk about it,

951
00:51:08,507 --> 00:51:10,267
Speaker 20: and it's really good to the game and regulague and

952
00:51:10,307 --> 00:51:13,787
Speaker 20: really good for the country. So we don't need to

953
00:51:13,907 --> 00:51:17,547
Speaker 20: dampen that. But internally, honestly, we showed this morning how

954
00:51:17,787 --> 00:51:19,187
Speaker 20: we just want good enough at things.

955
00:51:19,267 --> 00:51:21,187
Speaker 8: So we've got.

956
00:51:21,067 --> 00:51:24,347
Speaker 20: Competition for spots, always want to play. We're going to

957
00:51:24,347 --> 00:51:27,907
Speaker 20: make sure they're on their toes because good players are

958
00:51:27,907 --> 00:51:30,267
Speaker 20: missing out. Like Tennis Stalle, it's in players today. It's

959
00:51:30,427 --> 00:51:34,467
Speaker 20: probably been one of our best thoughts. So if you

960
00:51:34,507 --> 00:51:37,187
Speaker 20: don't turn up and do your job and you let

961
00:51:37,547 --> 00:51:40,427
Speaker 20: your success to get to your head, and the next

962
00:51:40,427 --> 00:51:42,987
Speaker 20: amount someone's going to be playing in reserve, great, So

963
00:51:43,227 --> 00:51:45,867
Speaker 20: I think you've got enough to play for them. We

964
00:51:46,027 --> 00:51:49,147
Speaker 20: talk about the noise the most important noise is the

965
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:51,987
Speaker 20: one in our four walls, and just be grateful that

966
00:51:52,147 --> 00:51:55,547
Speaker 20: everyone externally cares and loves us. So's we need to

967
00:51:55,587 --> 00:51:55,987
Speaker 20: pick up.

968
00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:58,827
Speaker 2: Just to finish where You've spoken a lot during our

969
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:01,067
Speaker 2: chat about improvement, what you want to do better, But

970
00:52:01,467 --> 00:52:03,547
Speaker 2: just on a night like last night, what is the

971
00:52:03,587 --> 00:52:06,107
Speaker 2: best part of a night like that for you personally?

972
00:52:06,147 --> 00:52:07,827
Speaker 2: Is it during the game? Is it just after the

973
00:52:07,827 --> 00:52:10,147
Speaker 2: final whistle and the sheds afterwards when you're back in

974
00:52:10,187 --> 00:52:12,707
Speaker 2: your hotel room and reflecting, What is what's your favorite

975
00:52:12,707 --> 00:52:13,587
Speaker 2: part of a night like that?

976
00:52:14,707 --> 00:52:18,787
Speaker 20: My favorite part? Suggestion round with the players, Like honestly,

977
00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,787
Speaker 20: that is as why we do it, to sit there

978
00:52:21,867 --> 00:52:24,547
Speaker 20: and dis sit down and chill and laugh and talk

979
00:52:24,587 --> 00:52:26,787
Speaker 20: about moments and encoach them and.

980
00:52:27,587 --> 00:52:28,387
Speaker 8: You know, win, lose all.

981
00:52:28,867 --> 00:52:32,307
Speaker 20: It's just it's nice to be with your peers and

982
00:52:32,467 --> 00:52:35,147
Speaker 20: we work for them, we work for the voice. So

983
00:52:35,987 --> 00:52:39,507
Speaker 20: just to have that connection in that moment in the

984
00:52:39,547 --> 00:52:42,227
Speaker 20: shed of my favorite partner. Then like milestone games, like

985
00:52:42,307 --> 00:52:45,107
Speaker 20: i'd just seen all the families becoming the song in

986
00:52:45,147 --> 00:52:47,987
Speaker 20: front of the families last night, to the smile on

987
00:52:48,227 --> 00:52:51,587
Speaker 20: their face. You just can't can't replicate that every week

988
00:52:51,627 --> 00:52:54,027
Speaker 20: and then it's mating feeling very cool.

989
00:52:54,027 --> 00:52:55,627
Speaker 2: Congrats on the one and the start of the season

990
00:52:55,627 --> 00:52:57,667
Speaker 2: where we always appreciate you taking time for a chat.

991
00:52:58,507 --> 00:53:00,507
Speaker 20: No cheez, I appreciate it, thank you, no, thank you.

992
00:53:00,627 --> 00:53:03,987
Speaker 2: Andrew Andrew Webster, head coach of the Warriors, of course,

993
00:53:04,027 --> 00:53:07,427
Speaker 2: always appreciate his accessibility to us. Wouldn't lose all draw

994
00:53:07,827 --> 00:53:09,707
Speaker 2: love that. But at the end, the favorite part is

995
00:53:10,027 --> 00:53:12,827
Speaker 2: spending time in the sheds afterwards and those milestones when

996
00:53:12,867 --> 00:53:15,587
Speaker 2: they get celebrated, they always the Warriors, and I think

997
00:53:15,627 --> 00:53:17,347
Speaker 2: a lot of sports teams are like this. They make

998
00:53:17,387 --> 00:53:19,747
Speaker 2: sure that they include family and all of that, and

999
00:53:19,987 --> 00:53:22,587
Speaker 2: some of the video content you see of family being

1000
00:53:22,707 --> 00:53:26,387
Speaker 2: so proud of their of their you know, their other

1001
00:53:26,467 --> 00:53:29,067
Speaker 2: family members when they achieve milestones or when they get

1002
00:53:29,107 --> 00:53:30,987
Speaker 2: a debut. Just on that, I know we're going to

1003
00:53:30,987 --> 00:53:33,227
Speaker 2: talk Warriors and the lines are open. Incidentally, I saw

1004
00:53:33,227 --> 00:53:37,547
Speaker 2: some gratefoots last night of Peyton Spencer making his Blues

1005
00:53:37,547 --> 00:53:40,907
Speaker 2: debut against the Warratars in Sydney and then going and

1006
00:53:40,947 --> 00:53:43,867
Speaker 2: seeing his mom and dad afterwards. Carlos there, Carlos Spencer,

1007
00:53:43,907 --> 00:53:47,107
Speaker 2: of course we all know proud as it was already

1008
00:53:47,147 --> 00:53:49,747
Speaker 2: cool moment. And Andrew Webster alluded to some of that

1009
00:53:49,827 --> 00:53:54,707
Speaker 2: there with players making debuts, Luke Hanson, players playing Milestone

1010
00:53:54,707 --> 00:53:59,147
Speaker 2: Matches one hundred there of course for Jackson Ford, Mitch

1011
00:53:59,187 --> 00:54:01,547
Speaker 2: Barnett coming back and playing his fiftieth game, that sort

1012
00:54:01,547 --> 00:54:04,107
Speaker 2: of thing, very very cool, oh eight, one hundred and

1013
00:54:04,107 --> 00:54:06,827
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Pick up on any think you like

1014
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:13,307
Speaker 2: from the game Tanner Boyd. I mean, they obviously knew

1015
00:54:13,307 --> 00:54:15,507
Speaker 2: what a player he was, It just took him at

1016
00:54:15,507 --> 00:54:17,747
Speaker 2: a time. Obviously we just kind of thrust in last

1017
00:54:17,827 --> 00:54:20,947
Speaker 2: year and finding his feet. But man, Tanner Boyd is

1018
00:54:21,027 --> 00:54:24,067
Speaker 2: a player. So what are they gonna do with Luke

1019
00:54:24,107 --> 00:54:27,187
Speaker 2: metcalf comes back? I reckon and obviously Andrew Webster said

1020
00:54:27,187 --> 00:54:30,387
Speaker 2: they're well, he'll make that decision when the time comes.

1021
00:54:30,427 --> 00:54:35,147
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Does Metcalfe play six Boyd and

1022
00:54:35,187 --> 00:54:39,787
Speaker 2: Metcalfe man, I don't know. Jackson Ford, what a performance

1023
00:54:39,787 --> 00:54:41,747
Speaker 2: from him, and great to see much Bunettbeck as well.

1024
00:54:42,227 --> 00:54:43,947
Speaker 2: Let's get to the lines. Pick up on anything you

1025
00:54:44,067 --> 00:54:46,267
Speaker 2: like from the chat with Andrew Webster or what you

1026
00:54:46,307 --> 00:54:50,747
Speaker 2: saw last night from the Warriors one twenty is the time, Frank, Hello.

1027
00:54:51,627 --> 00:54:58,627
Speaker 21: Good eye, Poney Hello, Frank, it's it's not a good team, poney, No,

1028
00:54:58,947 --> 00:55:00,827
Speaker 21: it's it's a champion team.

1029
00:55:01,147 --> 00:55:01,347
Speaker 22: Ah.

1030
00:55:01,987 --> 00:55:07,107
Speaker 21: Well, the two main features concerning this team convinced me

1031
00:55:07,187 --> 00:55:11,827
Speaker 21: that they are champions. Firstly is fitness. I guess that's

1032
00:55:11,827 --> 00:55:15,747
Speaker 21: put down to Andrew Webber. He's got these boys match fit.

1033
00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:20,027
Speaker 21: I mean, it's pretty obvious because in the second half

1034
00:55:20,867 --> 00:55:24,827
Speaker 21: of these three games, the opposition they're running out of petrol.

1035
00:55:24,947 --> 00:55:27,307
Speaker 21: Well that's probably not a good thing to say this time,

1036
00:55:28,707 --> 00:55:32,147
Speaker 21: but our boys they're clocking up the tries and I

1037
00:55:32,187 --> 00:55:35,827
Speaker 21: think the main reason is because they're fitter than the opposition.

1038
00:55:37,267 --> 00:55:41,267
Speaker 21: Last night the Aussie commentators mentioned oh the Knight said

1039
00:55:41,347 --> 00:55:46,147
Speaker 21: brown and what's his name? Ponger not playing, which weakened

1040
00:55:46,147 --> 00:55:50,267
Speaker 21: the team? Oh yeah, well what about us? We didn't

1041
00:55:50,307 --> 00:55:54,027
Speaker 21: have Nickel clock State, we didn't have Tamara Martin, we

1042
00:55:54,067 --> 00:55:57,067
Speaker 21: didn't have Harris DaVita, we didn't have Kate Well, we

1043
00:55:57,107 --> 00:56:00,347
Speaker 21: didn't have Pompey, we didn't have Metcalf and then we

1044
00:56:00,427 --> 00:56:04,427
Speaker 21: lost Morgan Cannon with about ten minutes at the start

1045
00:56:04,467 --> 00:56:08,987
Speaker 21: of the game. What the hell on about? My other

1046
00:56:09,427 --> 00:56:13,347
Speaker 21: feature is that they are playing as a family unit.

1047
00:56:13,387 --> 00:56:16,147
Speaker 21: They're playing for each other. I mean, I'm not going

1048
00:56:16,227 --> 00:56:18,787
Speaker 21: to name each player because they're all playing so well.

1049
00:56:19,387 --> 00:56:24,587
Speaker 21: I mean, well, okay, let's talk about well Jackson, Jackson, Ford, brilliant,

1050
00:56:24,827 --> 00:56:32,587
Speaker 21: Haalesee mcclark, boyd boyd oh. Anyway, No, they're playing as

1051
00:56:32,907 --> 00:56:36,547
Speaker 21: a family and of course the rest of their family.

1052
00:56:36,587 --> 00:56:39,307
Speaker 21: They've got twenty five thousand of them in the stands.

1053
00:56:40,667 --> 00:56:44,307
Speaker 21: I was watching it yesterday, honestly, and I thought I

1054
00:56:44,427 --> 00:56:48,027
Speaker 21: was a mount smart. I heard warriors, warriors, warriors, and

1055
00:56:48,027 --> 00:56:52,027
Speaker 21: I'm thinking, but that's an aussy crowd. No half of

1056
00:56:52,027 --> 00:56:55,347
Speaker 21: the bloody crowd was. I'm sorry about that. Was it

1057
00:56:55,467 --> 00:56:59,827
Speaker 21: was our boys. Now listen, there's a bunch of very

1058
00:56:59,947 --> 00:57:05,787
Speaker 21: fine NRL players. I reckon they're headed if writing they

1059
00:57:05,827 --> 00:57:11,747
Speaker 21: don't have any serious injuries to the two thousand and

1060
00:57:11,307 --> 00:57:16,427
Speaker 21: twenty sixth final. There's no doubt about it. In my mind.

1061
00:57:16,827 --> 00:57:19,747
Speaker 21: I know the first game was okay, one swallow doesn't

1062
00:57:19,747 --> 00:57:23,067
Speaker 21: make a summer. Maybe two swallows don't make a summer.

1063
00:57:23,067 --> 00:57:24,507
Speaker 21: But hang on a minute, we've got a flock to

1064
00:57:24,547 --> 00:57:27,467
Speaker 21: the buggers and love.

1065
00:57:27,307 --> 00:57:29,387
Speaker 2: It, Frank, love it mate, had a great turn of

1066
00:57:29,387 --> 00:57:33,027
Speaker 2: phrase to finish. Brilliant, brilliant, Yeah, look and the Tigers

1067
00:57:33,027 --> 00:57:35,347
Speaker 2: at home, then the Sharks away, the Storm away, the

1068
00:57:35,347 --> 00:57:37,707
Speaker 2: Titans at home, and then down to Wellington to take

1069
00:57:37,707 --> 00:57:39,507
Speaker 2: on the Dolphins. You look at these games and you think,

1070
00:57:39,547 --> 00:57:42,347
Speaker 2: man and just hearing you reel off the players there

1071
00:57:42,347 --> 00:57:45,027
Speaker 2: who aren't there, You're right the commentators, and rightly so.

1072
00:57:45,107 --> 00:57:48,507
Speaker 2: I think made a point of saying, hey, Newcastle's best

1073
00:57:48,547 --> 00:57:51,307
Speaker 2: two players, Let's be honest, Calen Ponder and Dylan Brown

1074
00:57:51,387 --> 00:57:54,707
Speaker 2: not there. But the list of names you reeled off there, Frank,

1075
00:57:54,707 --> 00:57:57,667
Speaker 2: there were half a dozen at least who weren't there.

1076
00:57:58,027 --> 00:58:02,667
Speaker 2: Next man up mentality, you know, lekahello, Sema going into

1077
00:58:02,747 --> 00:58:06,907
Speaker 2: the into the centers. I remember speaking to Andrew before

1078
00:58:06,907 --> 00:58:10,907
Speaker 2: the season started. He was still wanting to use Lekahalasima,

1079
00:58:11,227 --> 00:58:13,467
Speaker 2: mainly in an impact role, which he did of course

1080
00:58:13,467 --> 00:58:16,147
Speaker 2: in the first game against the Roosters, had to play,

1081
00:58:16,307 --> 00:58:18,747
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to, but was selected in the starting side

1082
00:58:18,827 --> 00:58:21,427
Speaker 2: last week after Kurt cape Well was ruled out, and

1083
00:58:21,467 --> 00:58:25,627
Speaker 2: then again last night played in the centers with Adam

1084
00:58:25,667 --> 00:58:29,507
Speaker 2: Pompey at home awaiting the birth of a new family member.

1085
00:58:30,427 --> 00:58:34,787
Speaker 2: Next man up, Next man up, good to Chattier, Frank

1086
00:58:34,907 --> 00:58:37,067
Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Greg, with you just

1087
00:58:37,147 --> 00:58:39,307
Speaker 2: after this spearline. If you want to talk about the Warriors,

1088
00:58:39,427 --> 00:58:40,947
Speaker 2: we'll do it for the next ten to fifteen minutes

1089
00:58:41,027 --> 00:58:43,227
Speaker 2: or so. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

1090
00:58:43,227 --> 00:58:45,707
Speaker 2: two nine to two fear text messages, Weekend Sport on

1091
00:58:45,747 --> 00:58:47,347
Speaker 2: news Talks, he'd be one twenty four.

1092
00:58:47,627 --> 00:58:51,547
Speaker 1: Where the weekend's biggest calls for me? Weekend Sport with

1093
00:58:51,747 --> 00:58:55,427
Speaker 1: Jason five and GJ Gard No Homes, New Zealand's most

1094
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Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1095
00:58:56,507 --> 00:58:59,467
Speaker 2: News Talks. A'd be News Talks. He'd be one twenty

1096
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:02,827
Speaker 2: seven talking Warriors. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1097
00:59:02,867 --> 00:59:04,827
Speaker 2: as always as the phone number, Greg, thanks for holding

1098
00:59:04,867 --> 00:59:07,587
Speaker 2: that good afternoon, Hey do good.

1099
00:59:10,027 --> 00:59:13,627
Speaker 8: Sorry Frank, but three swallows does not make us a flock.

1100
00:59:15,027 --> 00:59:17,187
Speaker 2: How many do you need? How big is a flock?

1101
00:59:17,227 --> 00:59:25,667
Speaker 2: What are you talking? Eighty twenty six? Wow, that's some flock.

1102
00:59:25,707 --> 00:59:27,867
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope it happens. Are you seeing the

1103
00:59:27,867 --> 00:59:30,547
Speaker 2: green shoots though? Greg, of promise.

1104
00:59:31,987 --> 00:59:37,427
Speaker 8: They're definitely there. But I never want to get too

1105
00:59:37,507 --> 00:59:44,907
Speaker 8: far ahead of ourselves because other teams will improve. We're

1106
00:59:44,947 --> 00:59:47,147
Speaker 8: playing at a good level. And I took a word

1107
00:59:47,187 --> 00:59:49,827
Speaker 8: out of one of the commentators last night that we

1108
00:59:49,827 --> 00:59:52,867
Speaker 8: were very clinical in the way we approached that game.

1109
00:59:55,347 --> 01:00:01,827
Speaker 8: I just want to ask a question. When forduer Blake left,

1110
01:00:02,787 --> 01:00:09,147
Speaker 8: everybody was like, oh, oh, whoa. Now I watched his

1111
01:00:09,267 --> 01:00:14,627
Speaker 8: game before I watched the Warriors, and I would have

1112
01:00:14,747 --> 01:00:19,627
Speaker 8: Jackson Ford any day over Panel Blake. He was mundane,

1113
01:00:19,827 --> 01:00:22,827
Speaker 8: he was he didn't have the work ethic, he didn't

1114
01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:27,467
Speaker 8: have anything. But you know, it was like when he left,

1115
01:00:27,627 --> 01:00:32,587
Speaker 8: people all all worried. And I think that within this

1116
01:00:32,747 --> 01:00:35,347
Speaker 8: club we have to put a great deal of faith

1117
01:00:35,987 --> 01:00:42,947
Speaker 8: in our recruitment process because Kapy is done a fantastic

1118
01:00:43,067 --> 01:00:47,747
Speaker 8: job with what he's recruited, and people forget a lot

1119
01:00:47,747 --> 01:00:52,667
Speaker 8: of the time the behind the scenes action that's going

1120
01:00:52,707 --> 01:00:57,667
Speaker 8: on basically to build a team. Another player who I

1121
01:00:57,747 --> 01:01:03,267
Speaker 8: mentioned last year was Cane to a pecky. Now even

1122
01:01:03,627 --> 01:01:06,947
Speaker 8: the commentators are now starting to look at this guy

1123
01:01:07,027 --> 01:01:12,227
Speaker 8: and think, whoa, he's a great replacement for Chance. I mean,

1124
01:01:12,267 --> 01:01:14,547
Speaker 8: he's not the biggest guy on the field, but he

1125
01:01:14,707 --> 01:01:22,027
Speaker 8: is as tough as concrete. So yeah, I mean can avoid.

1126
01:01:22,707 --> 01:01:27,587
Speaker 8: I sort of had my doubts initially about him, but

1127
01:01:27,707 --> 01:01:32,787
Speaker 8: I can see him and metcalf as the harvest combination now,

1128
01:01:33,427 --> 01:01:35,867
Speaker 8: and this is drawing a very long bow, but I

1129
01:01:35,907 --> 01:01:39,707
Speaker 8: can see bits of Stacey Jones in his game. He's

1130
01:01:39,747 --> 01:01:45,867
Speaker 8: a similar sized build, ruggedness, where metcalth is more of

1131
01:01:45,907 --> 01:01:52,107
Speaker 8: a finisher. So yeah, just the whole team, you know,

1132
01:01:52,227 --> 01:01:57,347
Speaker 8: is clicking, and just hope that they continue to click

1133
01:01:58,387 --> 01:02:00,147
Speaker 8: for the next twenty three rounds.

1134
01:02:01,227 --> 01:02:04,827
Speaker 2: I love the measured nature of your call, Greg, I do.

1135
01:02:06,547 --> 01:02:06,667
Speaker 23: Boy.

1136
01:02:06,667 --> 01:02:08,187
Speaker 2: It's got to be a part of that recruitment too,

1137
01:02:08,187 --> 01:02:10,387
Speaker 2: doesn't he. I mean Andrew McFadden cap he should call him.

1138
01:02:10,507 --> 01:02:12,507
Speaker 2: He must have been behind bringing him from the Titans

1139
01:02:12,507 --> 01:02:14,787
Speaker 2: as well. Clearly saw something. I mean, it wasn't like

1140
01:02:14,827 --> 01:02:17,787
Speaker 2: he was a rusted on starter at the Titans, probably

1141
01:02:17,867 --> 01:02:20,067
Speaker 2: until you know, near the end of his time there.

1142
01:02:20,347 --> 01:02:22,747
Speaker 2: They obviously saw something in him last year. I'm not

1143
01:02:22,787 --> 01:02:24,507
Speaker 2: sure we saw the best of him as he adjusted

1144
01:02:24,547 --> 01:02:30,027
Speaker 2: to things. But I've been so impressed with the guy.

1145
01:02:30,307 --> 01:02:32,547
Speaker 8: I think a lot a lot of other people will

1146
01:02:32,627 --> 01:02:36,347
Speaker 8: have maybe had similar thoughts to what I had and

1147
01:02:36,387 --> 01:02:40,187
Speaker 8: what you just said that you know, And the other

1148
01:02:40,227 --> 01:02:43,547
Speaker 8: thing is he's not the finished product yet. You know,

1149
01:02:43,787 --> 01:02:48,627
Speaker 8: he's got Stacey there obviously helping him and everybody else

1150
01:02:48,667 --> 01:02:52,307
Speaker 8: around him. But each game. He just you know, little steps,

1151
01:02:52,307 --> 01:02:56,747
Speaker 8: little steps, little steps, and getting better and better each week.

1152
01:02:58,547 --> 01:03:01,987
Speaker 2: If the Warriors beat the Storm away in round six, Greg,

1153
01:03:02,027 --> 01:03:03,467
Speaker 2: will you give me a call back and we chat.

1154
01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:05,187
Speaker 2: We'll chat then we can chat before that if you like,

1155
01:03:05,227 --> 01:03:06,947
Speaker 2: But give us a l after the Storm game in

1156
01:03:06,987 --> 01:03:11,987
Speaker 2: about a month or so. Sure, good man. I like

1157
01:03:12,067 --> 01:03:15,347
Speaker 2: the measured approach. I do, I really do. I know that.

1158
01:03:15,507 --> 01:03:19,187
Speaker 2: You know, sports fandom and analysis comes across a wide spectrum.

1159
01:03:19,427 --> 01:03:21,827
Speaker 2: It's okay to be really excited. It's also ok to

1160
01:03:21,827 --> 01:03:25,107
Speaker 2: be measured and to wait for the twenty six swallow

1161
01:03:25,227 --> 01:03:29,547
Speaker 2: flock to arrive carefully. You say that. Good on you, Greg,

1162
01:03:29,587 --> 01:03:31,787
Speaker 2: good to chat to yup, Paul. What did you like

1163
01:03:31,787 --> 01:03:32,147
Speaker 2: about it?

1164
01:03:32,187 --> 01:03:32,507
Speaker 5: Mate?

1165
01:03:33,667 --> 01:03:36,467
Speaker 24: Yeah, afternoon, poney. I think the last guy is correct

1166
01:03:36,467 --> 01:03:40,027
Speaker 24: and when he's talking tenor Boyd with more improvement to come,

1167
01:03:40,067 --> 01:03:42,467
Speaker 24: and you could probably say that about the whole team.

1168
01:03:42,907 --> 01:03:45,347
Speaker 24: That's what's pleasing Piney is that you know, not only

1169
01:03:45,387 --> 01:03:47,547
Speaker 24: do we have guns to come back in the side,

1170
01:03:48,587 --> 01:03:52,227
Speaker 24: there's room for improvement and you know we can only

1171
01:03:52,227 --> 01:03:55,107
Speaker 24: get better. And yesterday's game for me was a real

1172
01:03:56,027 --> 01:03:59,987
Speaker 24: defining game in terms of you know, we gusted up

1173
01:04:00,027 --> 01:04:03,307
Speaker 24: the Resa's end Raiders at home they were predicted top

1174
01:04:03,347 --> 01:04:06,587
Speaker 24: four teams and where they was it a flu can.

1175
01:04:06,627 --> 01:04:09,067
Speaker 24: Both those games we put forty points on them and

1176
01:04:09,147 --> 01:04:12,267
Speaker 24: yesterday we went to Newcastle. Granted they were without you know,

1177
01:04:12,747 --> 01:04:17,067
Speaker 24: Ponger and and Brown, but we were without many players also.

1178
01:04:17,187 --> 01:04:19,387
Speaker 24: But you know we're not only dominated them, you know

1179
01:04:19,427 --> 01:04:21,907
Speaker 24: we own them on their home ground away in Sydney.

1180
01:04:22,187 --> 01:04:24,147
Speaker 24: So I think the rest of the competition is definitely

1181
01:04:24,187 --> 01:04:26,907
Speaker 24: going to wake up and take notice of the worries now, mate,

1182
01:04:26,947 --> 01:04:29,587
Speaker 24: So to come back home? Now? Who is out? I

1183
01:04:29,747 --> 01:04:32,987
Speaker 24: here with the Tigers. I think Coras I might be

1184
01:04:32,987 --> 01:04:35,107
Speaker 24: out as well. So you know we can side again,

1185
01:04:35,187 --> 01:04:37,427
Speaker 24: but we only play who's in front of us, mate,

1186
01:04:37,467 --> 01:04:42,467
Speaker 24: And yeah, more improvement. But gee, you've got to love

1187
01:04:42,467 --> 01:04:44,507
Speaker 24: what you're doing at the moment, mate, absolutely.

1188
01:04:44,587 --> 01:04:46,827
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about a couple of players, Porcus,

1189
01:04:46,867 --> 01:04:50,387
Speaker 2: I know you watch this team very closely and Greg

1190
01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:54,707
Speaker 2: the last caller reference to obtain to old Pikey. Do

1191
01:04:54,027 --> 01:04:56,427
Speaker 2: you do you like him there at fullback? Is he

1192
01:04:56,627 --> 01:04:58,907
Speaker 2: like can you see your time where he is the

1193
01:04:58,947 --> 01:05:01,707
Speaker 2: first choice fallback ahead of Charms or is that still

1194
01:05:02,307 --> 01:05:03,347
Speaker 2: a live conversation?

1195
01:05:04,427 --> 01:05:04,587
Speaker 5: Oh?

1196
01:05:04,627 --> 01:05:07,467
Speaker 24: He has to be Poni. He has to be. I mean,

1197
01:05:07,907 --> 01:05:09,467
Speaker 24: I think he can play in the halves, but we've

1198
01:05:09,467 --> 01:05:11,347
Speaker 24: got so many, so much depths in the halves. I

1199
01:05:11,387 --> 01:05:14,467
Speaker 24: don't think that's a real option. If you look at

1200
01:05:14,467 --> 01:05:16,987
Speaker 24: the size of the guy, you know, he's got balls,

1201
01:05:16,987 --> 01:05:20,107
Speaker 24: you know, excuse me, you know, turn a phrase, he's

1202
01:05:20,467 --> 01:05:23,027
Speaker 24: he's only a small guy. But he has to be

1203
01:05:23,747 --> 01:05:27,307
Speaker 24: the fallback and waiting when Charan's you know, and moves

1204
01:05:27,347 --> 01:05:30,667
Speaker 24: on so a tin top picky. He didn't put a

1205
01:05:30,667 --> 01:05:34,787
Speaker 24: foot wrong. He takes guys front on three times a size.

1206
01:05:35,667 --> 01:05:38,107
Speaker 24: He's very, very fit, mobile and if he makes one

1207
01:05:38,187 --> 01:05:39,987
Speaker 24: hundred percent, and just on.

1208
01:05:39,947 --> 01:05:42,587
Speaker 2: The return of Luke Metcalf, it just seems so convenient

1209
01:05:42,627 --> 01:05:45,667
Speaker 2: and so obvious to say, okay, well when Luke Metcalf

1210
01:05:45,707 --> 01:05:47,627
Speaker 2: comes back of Tennor boys playing this way and there's

1211
01:05:47,627 --> 01:05:49,827
Speaker 2: nothing to suggest that it will change. In the lexl

1212
01:05:49,867 --> 01:05:52,147
Speaker 2: a while before Metcalf comes back, there is a six

1213
01:05:52,307 --> 01:05:56,907
Speaker 2: seven of Metcalf and Boyd Actually a thing could that work?

1214
01:05:56,987 --> 01:05:58,387
Speaker 2: Will that work? If they try it?

1215
01:05:59,867 --> 01:06:02,747
Speaker 24: I think that's the perfect combination. I think with Metcalf,

1216
01:06:02,987 --> 01:06:05,107
Speaker 24: obviously he's not going to come straight into the side.

1217
01:06:05,147 --> 01:06:08,507
Speaker 24: He probably plays cup gets some mileage, you know in

1218
01:06:08,547 --> 01:06:12,507
Speaker 24: his lungs. And then but no, I think that Calf,

1219
01:06:12,867 --> 01:06:14,987
Speaker 24: I personally think he is a six. He's always been

1220
01:06:15,027 --> 01:06:18,147
Speaker 24: a six. He loves to run the ball, whereas Tanner

1221
01:06:18,187 --> 01:06:21,147
Speaker 24: boys the perfect seven. He's got a fantastic kicking game.

1222
01:06:21,547 --> 01:06:24,747
Speaker 24: And also when he takes that line on. You know,

1223
01:06:24,947 --> 01:06:27,827
Speaker 24: you saw that his tries recently. You know, his speed

1224
01:06:27,867 --> 01:06:30,067
Speaker 24: off the mark when he hits that, when he hits

1225
01:06:30,067 --> 01:06:32,667
Speaker 24: the after burners. You know, he's not afraid to run

1226
01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:35,107
Speaker 24: the ball. He's got the perfect kicking game, like I mentioned,

1227
01:06:35,107 --> 01:06:37,467
Speaker 24: so he's the perfect seven. I think met Calf's the

1228
01:06:37,507 --> 01:06:40,027
Speaker 24: perfect six with those two humming and then you know

1229
01:06:40,027 --> 01:06:42,307
Speaker 24: we've got a lot of gipts there. I thought, young Hanson,

1230
01:06:42,587 --> 01:06:45,707
Speaker 24: you know, he had a solid game, so you know,

1231
01:06:46,187 --> 01:06:47,747
Speaker 24: God on him. He didn't over play his hands that

1232
01:06:47,747 --> 01:06:49,147
Speaker 24: he had had a job to do, and he played

1233
01:06:49,187 --> 01:06:51,147
Speaker 24: really really well. I was really really happy for him.

1234
01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:53,907
Speaker 24: And also he got that try, so I thought also

1235
01:06:53,987 --> 01:06:56,507
Speaker 24: just quickly mate Jared James Fisher House and I think,

1236
01:06:56,987 --> 01:06:58,987
Speaker 24: what a game, And it just showed his fitness when

1237
01:06:58,987 --> 01:07:01,027
Speaker 24: he got that try to be there where normally a

1238
01:07:01,067 --> 01:07:03,907
Speaker 24: fallback would be there to get that ball and so

1239
01:07:03,947 --> 01:07:05,907
Speaker 24: the Thaing's very fit, they're very happy. They're playing for

1240
01:07:05,947 --> 01:07:08,547
Speaker 24: each other. And like I said before, mate, I think

1241
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,627
Speaker 24: it's you know, as long as we improve and we

1242
01:07:11,627 --> 01:07:14,867
Speaker 24: we learn each game. Good signs ahead, mate, This could

1243
01:07:14,907 --> 01:07:15,267
Speaker 24: be a year.

1244
01:07:15,307 --> 01:07:15,587
Speaker 9: Brother.

1245
01:07:16,067 --> 01:07:21,987
Speaker 2: Go on, Paul, go on, love it mate, the last fall,

1246
01:07:22,747 --> 01:07:24,307
Speaker 2: love it. Good on you man, thanks for calling and

1247
01:07:24,347 --> 01:07:26,907
Speaker 2: has always always enjoy our conversations. Yeah, I mean Luke

1248
01:07:26,947 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 2: Metcalf when Sean Johnson was the Little Warriors and what

1249
01:07:29,627 --> 01:07:32,307
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four played a bit in the six Jumper,

1250
01:07:32,347 --> 01:07:35,307
Speaker 2: didn't he They kind of I think to Marry Martin

1251
01:07:35,387 --> 01:07:38,427
Speaker 2: played the majority of games in the sixth Jumper that year.

1252
01:07:38,547 --> 01:07:41,187
Speaker 2: There's I think even Shehanella Hrsteveta might have had a

1253
01:07:41,187 --> 01:07:44,227
Speaker 2: couple of games there. But Luke Metcalf certainly played alongside

1254
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:47,467
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson and that in that half's combination two years ago.

1255
01:07:47,587 --> 01:07:50,147
Speaker 2: So there's nothing to suggest that it wouldn't be the

1256
01:07:50,187 --> 01:07:52,587
Speaker 2: same if he came back in and they decide, Tanner Boyd,

1257
01:07:52,587 --> 01:07:56,187
Speaker 2: you're playing so well, we'll leave you there. Well, I

1258
01:07:56,187 --> 01:07:58,427
Speaker 2: guess what I was thinking without having the in depth knowledge,

1259
01:07:58,427 --> 01:08:00,707
Speaker 2: and that's probably why I asked Paul. The question was

1260
01:08:00,707 --> 01:08:03,467
Speaker 2: was does it. Is it actually trying to force Luke

1261
01:08:03,507 --> 01:08:06,027
Speaker 2: Metcalf into a position that he wouldn't be as effective

1262
01:08:06,027 --> 01:08:08,347
Speaker 2: and but by the sounds of it, no is the answer.

1263
01:08:08,867 --> 01:08:12,307
Speaker 2: And even hearing Andrew Webster say that they've been encouraging

1264
01:08:12,347 --> 01:08:16,547
Speaker 2: Tanner Boyd to run a lot more, you know that,

1265
01:08:17,187 --> 01:08:19,707
Speaker 2: you know, being a being a triple threat, you know, run, kick, pass.

1266
01:08:19,747 --> 01:08:21,067
Speaker 2: I guess it's the same as a first five in

1267
01:08:21,187 --> 01:08:24,787
Speaker 2: rugby in some respects, because you do put doubt in

1268
01:08:24,787 --> 01:08:27,627
Speaker 2: the mind of the opposition. If they know that he's

1269
01:08:27,667 --> 01:08:30,227
Speaker 2: always going to pass, then they don't have to worry

1270
01:08:30,267 --> 01:08:33,867
Speaker 2: about that running game. But he, to me, has added

1271
01:08:33,907 --> 01:08:38,427
Speaker 2: that almost instantly to his game. He's already got three tries.

1272
01:08:39,027 --> 01:08:43,427
Speaker 2: His kicking's good. I think there were you know, he

1273
01:08:43,507 --> 01:08:45,947
Speaker 2: was probably of all of the players on the Warrior's

1274
01:08:45,987 --> 01:08:49,867
Speaker 2: side this year, he was the one who most people

1275
01:08:49,907 --> 01:08:53,427
Speaker 2: were very curious about how he'd go. And look, I

1276
01:08:54,027 --> 01:08:57,467
Speaker 2: haven't said, you know, let's just try and hang in

1277
01:08:57,467 --> 01:09:02,187
Speaker 2: there until Luke Metcalf comes back. But now Tanner Boyd,

1278
01:09:02,427 --> 01:09:04,787
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to give it to the guy.

1279
01:09:05,507 --> 01:09:08,387
Speaker 2: He just said, the jersey's mine. I'm going to make

1280
01:09:08,387 --> 01:09:13,547
Speaker 2: it a really difficult decision for Andrew Webster. I'm gonna

1281
01:09:13,827 --> 01:09:17,667
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to make him look for somewhere

1282
01:09:17,667 --> 01:09:20,467
Speaker 2: else to put Luke Metcalf when he comes back a

1283
01:09:20,467 --> 01:09:22,827
Speaker 2: couple of texts through Andrew Webster sounds like a true

1284
01:09:22,987 --> 01:09:26,947
Speaker 2: NRL coach, says Blake. We're lucky to have him. Absolutely

1285
01:09:27,147 --> 01:09:30,587
Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. Got a lot of man love for Lekahllaesima,

1286
01:09:30,827 --> 01:09:34,107
Speaker 2: says Mars and Tanna Boyd. I agree, Mike says, un

1287
01:09:34,147 --> 01:09:36,147
Speaker 2: least the Warriors can beat the Storm in Round six

1288
01:09:36,307 --> 01:09:39,027
Speaker 2: in Melbourne. They are not the real deal. Mike, I'm

1289
01:09:39,027 --> 01:09:41,547
Speaker 2: looking forward to that game on the night of Saturday,

1290
01:09:41,627 --> 01:09:45,627
Speaker 2: April the eleventh, So Tiger's at home on Friday and

1291
01:09:45,747 --> 01:09:49,627
Speaker 2: just on that Actually, I'll complete what I was saying.

1292
01:09:49,627 --> 01:09:52,147
Speaker 2: Tigers at home on Friday, Sharks away and then Storm

1293
01:09:52,147 --> 01:09:55,507
Speaker 2: away on the night of the eleventh of April. The

1294
01:09:55,907 --> 01:10:00,107
Speaker 2: game on Friday night against the West Tigers at go Media.

1295
01:10:01,507 --> 01:10:05,667
Speaker 2: The Warriors are putting the spotlight on Pacifica cultures at

1296
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:08,387
Speaker 2: this game. Of the Warriors two hundred and ninety four

1297
01:10:08,547 --> 01:10:11,347
Speaker 2: NRL player since the club's inception in nineteen ninety five,

1298
01:10:11,947 --> 01:10:16,467
Speaker 2: nearly half are off Pacifica heritage. So what they want

1299
01:10:16,507 --> 01:10:18,107
Speaker 2: you to do if you're going along is to bring

1300
01:10:18,107 --> 01:10:20,707
Speaker 2: your flags, your songs, your culture to turn this into

1301
01:10:20,747 --> 01:10:25,347
Speaker 2: an amazing celebration. There'll be Pacifica music and artists integrated

1302
01:10:25,427 --> 01:10:31,107
Speaker 2: into all the stadium audio, traditional and contemporary Pacifica dance performances,

1303
01:10:31,147 --> 01:10:33,827
Speaker 2: and all sorts of other ways to celebrate on Friday

1304
01:10:33,907 --> 01:10:36,907
Speaker 2: night at at go Media Stadium. And the other thing

1305
01:10:36,907 --> 01:10:40,427
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention to you is the seventy two

1306
01:10:40,587 --> 01:10:44,387
Speaker 2: hour flash ticket sale which is on at the moment

1307
01:10:44,907 --> 01:10:50,507
Speaker 2: until seven o'clock on Tuesday night. You have the opportunity

1308
01:10:50,707 --> 01:10:54,107
Speaker 2: to buy your tickets for the rest of the Warriors'

1309
01:10:54,107 --> 01:10:57,587
Speaker 2: home games this season. Reserve seats in the upper South

1310
01:10:57,627 --> 01:11:02,827
Speaker 2: stand for all or any of the remaining seven regular

1311
01:11:02,907 --> 01:11:09,027
Speaker 2: season games just twenty bucks including sorry plus fees. Seven

1312
01:11:09,107 --> 01:11:11,827
Speaker 2: games left at go Media the Tigers this week, then

1313
01:11:11,867 --> 01:11:17,187
Speaker 2: Gold Coast, Cronulla, Saint George, Penrith, Newcastle and Manly. Until

1314
01:11:17,827 --> 01:11:21,787
Speaker 2: seven o'clock on Tuesday night, you have the opportunity to

1315
01:11:21,787 --> 01:11:25,307
Speaker 2: buy as many seats as you want for all seven

1316
01:11:25,347 --> 01:11:28,347
Speaker 2: of those games, map out your season, or you can

1317
01:11:28,387 --> 01:11:33,027
Speaker 2: hand pick individual games first and first served, so that's

1318
01:11:33,107 --> 01:11:38,107
Speaker 2: until seven o'clock Tuesday, the seventy two hour flash sale.

1319
01:11:38,107 --> 01:11:42,147
Speaker 2: It started last night when the final whistle blew. So

1320
01:11:42,427 --> 01:11:44,867
Speaker 2: get amongst the ticketmaster, dot COT, dot inst is where

1321
01:11:44,867 --> 01:11:49,107
Speaker 2: you find the the details on that. But I agree Mike.

1322
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:51,227
Speaker 2: If they beat the Storm in round six, then we

1323
01:11:51,267 --> 01:11:53,227
Speaker 2: can start talking about them as the real deal. A

1324
01:11:53,267 --> 01:11:54,907
Speaker 2: couple more to finish before we go to the break

1325
01:11:54,907 --> 01:11:57,267
Speaker 2: from Joe. What I've been most impressed about with the

1326
01:11:57,267 --> 01:11:59,227
Speaker 2: Warriors is buying large. The squad is pretty much the

1327
01:11:59,267 --> 01:12:01,787
Speaker 2: same as last year, but it appears the players have

1328
01:12:01,867 --> 01:12:05,827
Speaker 2: lifted their own individual game and efforts to another level.

1329
01:12:05,827 --> 01:12:09,387
Speaker 2: There's geny win competition within the squad for game day spots.

1330
01:12:09,427 --> 01:12:12,107
Speaker 2: That's a sign the club has its house in order.

1331
01:12:12,587 --> 01:12:14,667
Speaker 2: From a team that couldn't score tries last year to

1332
01:12:14,707 --> 01:12:18,267
Speaker 2: scoring at will this year an amazing transformation. Yes, it's

1333
01:12:18,307 --> 01:12:21,107
Speaker 2: a long season. They'll be pain and disappointments and big

1334
01:12:21,187 --> 01:12:25,107
Speaker 2: challenges ahead, but they're trucking along very well. Roll on

1335
01:12:25,267 --> 01:12:30,027
Speaker 2: next week, Roll on next week. Indeed, Jackie says Penrith

1336
01:12:30,067 --> 01:12:32,067
Speaker 2: of the Benchmark pint Hey, let's see we go against them.

1337
01:12:32,267 --> 01:12:34,747
Speaker 2: We don't play the Panthers for ages look at me

1338
01:12:34,867 --> 01:12:37,427
Speaker 2: calling us. We love it. I'm just trying to find

1339
01:12:37,467 --> 01:12:39,747
Speaker 2: The first Panthers game is until after the bye in

1340
01:12:39,827 --> 01:12:43,187
Speaker 2: mid June, so we hopefully have a head a steam up,

1341
01:12:43,227 --> 01:12:47,867
Speaker 2: Jackie before we play the Panthers. That's a way as well, well,

1342
01:12:47,907 --> 01:12:49,707
Speaker 2: are we nineteen to two? Let's take a break. I'm

1343
01:12:49,707 --> 01:12:51,907
Speaker 2: sure James mcconey will have some thoughts on the Warriors

1344
01:12:51,947 --> 01:12:54,587
Speaker 2: and other things when we come back. James in his

1345
01:12:54,707 --> 01:12:57,027
Speaker 2: regular Sunday slot here on News Talks EP.

1346
01:12:56,947 --> 01:13:00,667
Speaker 1: No TMO, no DRS, just your call on Oh eight

1347
01:13:00,747 --> 01:13:05,947
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardnos,

1348
01:13:06,427 --> 01:13:09,307
Speaker 1: Zeeland's most trusted home builder, News TALKB.

1349
01:13:09,587 --> 01:13:14,347
Speaker 2: News Talks B and Weekend Sports sixteen away from two.

1350
01:13:14,587 --> 01:13:16,627
Speaker 2: As always at this time on a Sunday afternoon, we

1351
01:13:16,707 --> 01:13:19,787
Speaker 2: get the pleasure of the company of James mcconey. Howbout

1352
01:13:19,827 --> 01:13:22,787
Speaker 2: those Warriors, James, Oh.

1353
01:13:22,707 --> 01:13:26,507
Speaker 9: How happy m wires look. Fantastic stuff, just looking so

1354
01:13:26,787 --> 01:13:31,587
Speaker 9: dominant and assured, but also lots of forwards scoring tries.

1355
01:13:32,427 --> 01:13:34,907
Speaker 9: I'm sure you caught the game, Pioney, but I don't

1356
01:13:34,907 --> 01:13:37,827
Speaker 9: think I've seen a game where so many forwards started down.

1357
01:13:38,187 --> 01:13:40,467
Speaker 2: No, it was it was right across the ball, wasn't

1358
01:13:40,467 --> 01:13:43,627
Speaker 2: what had clark Ford? Hala Sema was playing in the centers,

1359
01:13:43,707 --> 01:13:46,307
Speaker 2: so I guess we can't really count him. Fisher Harris,

1360
01:13:47,267 --> 01:13:48,747
Speaker 2: what about right at what about right at the end

1361
01:13:48,747 --> 01:13:51,667
Speaker 2: when Luke Hanson got the ball passed him for a

1362
01:13:51,707 --> 01:13:54,467
Speaker 2: debut try as well? I love the I just just

1363
01:13:54,507 --> 01:13:56,227
Speaker 2: love it. What that said about the team too.

1364
01:13:56,907 --> 01:14:00,387
Speaker 9: Yeah, And if you talk about like Halla Seema Leka Halasima,

1365
01:14:00,467 --> 01:14:02,907
Speaker 9: who is a burgeoning superstar. We all know that he

1366
01:14:03,067 --> 01:14:06,907
Speaker 9: topped the try scorers for the Warriors last year with thirteen,

1367
01:14:07,027 --> 01:14:10,027
Speaker 9: mainly scoring you know, being a second rower. I think

1368
01:14:10,067 --> 01:14:12,987
Speaker 9: he's going to rewrite record books. I can even see

1369
01:14:13,027 --> 01:14:16,507
Speaker 9: even those grizzled old ossie pundits on the on the

1370
01:14:16,547 --> 01:14:21,427
Speaker 9: Fox Sports TV shows are starting to say it's Leka Halasima.

1371
01:14:21,507 --> 01:14:24,587
Speaker 9: He is box office. You have to watch him. And

1372
01:14:24,587 --> 01:14:27,267
Speaker 9: when Alex Johnston broke the try scoring record for the

1373
01:14:27,427 --> 01:14:31,107
Speaker 9: NRL with two hundred and thirteen last weekend, I sort

1374
01:14:31,107 --> 01:14:32,587
Speaker 9: of went on a bit of a deep dive to

1375
01:14:32,627 --> 01:14:34,467
Speaker 9: see who else is on that list and not the

1376
01:14:34,507 --> 01:14:37,907
Speaker 9: only four that's within Cooey is Steve Menzi is a

1377
01:14:37,947 --> 01:14:40,667
Speaker 9: great manly second rower who was a bit like Lequa

1378
01:14:40,827 --> 01:14:44,707
Speaker 9: hybrid set of secutor row center. But I think Leka

1379
01:14:44,947 --> 01:14:48,307
Speaker 9: is on target to be a bit like Mensis on

1380
01:14:48,347 --> 01:14:49,467
Speaker 9: the try scoring front.

1381
01:14:49,987 --> 01:14:52,267
Speaker 2: Yeah he's some player, isn't he? And you don't want

1382
01:14:52,267 --> 01:14:54,787
Speaker 2: to get too excited at such a young age, But

1383
01:14:54,827 --> 01:14:56,467
Speaker 2: then you think, okay, well if he's that young, what

1384
01:14:56,667 --> 01:14:58,827
Speaker 2: might he go on to achieve? He could be anything,

1385
01:14:58,827 --> 01:14:59,227
Speaker 2: couldn't he.

1386
01:15:00,067 --> 01:15:03,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is the whole thing. It's yeah, speed and

1387
01:15:03,387 --> 01:15:05,787
Speaker 9: power is such a massive part of his game that

1388
01:15:05,987 --> 01:15:08,427
Speaker 9: you know he's There might be others that will come

1389
01:15:08,467 --> 01:15:11,467
Speaker 9: along that will be more powerful and quicker in that position,

1390
01:15:11,547 --> 01:15:14,387
Speaker 9: but right now it's him and and you know that

1391
01:15:14,787 --> 01:15:17,667
Speaker 9: those types of players they have to make hay while

1392
01:15:17,667 --> 01:15:20,267
Speaker 9: the sun shines and sign those big contracts while they can.

1393
01:15:21,227 --> 01:15:23,867
Speaker 9: I think he's yeah, it's it's just going to be

1394
01:15:23,947 --> 01:15:27,707
Speaker 9: incredible to see how many people he humbles in this

1395
01:15:27,747 --> 01:15:31,107
Speaker 9: game because he's already doing it and you can even

1396
01:15:31,107 --> 01:15:34,227
Speaker 9: see the players. Liquor took a while to put the

1397
01:15:34,227 --> 01:15:37,307
Speaker 9: ball down use today, but the guy didn't even bother

1398
01:15:37,427 --> 01:15:39,387
Speaker 9: trying to challenge him because they know it's liquor.

1399
01:15:39,707 --> 01:15:43,427
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I'd noticed that two. Actually he didn't

1400
01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:45,907
Speaker 2: sort of just dive on it immediately did. He was

1401
01:15:45,947 --> 01:15:47,467
Speaker 2: in the end goal. I'll put it down of each

1402
01:15:48,427 --> 01:15:48,667
Speaker 2: he was.

1403
01:15:48,747 --> 01:15:50,547
Speaker 9: Casual in his own time and Eyone goes, yeah, you're

1404
01:15:50,627 --> 01:15:54,387
Speaker 9: lequer do that. So I think he's already got superstar

1405
01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:57,227
Speaker 9: status and he's has been afforded that respect by by

1406
01:15:57,267 --> 01:16:01,387
Speaker 9: his opponents. And now, you know, I look at say

1407
01:16:01,507 --> 01:16:04,347
Speaker 9: a player like Littrell Mitchell and Greg Englist when they

1408
01:16:04,427 --> 01:16:07,067
Speaker 9: based onto the scene, they were sort of so hot

1409
01:16:07,507 --> 01:16:10,347
Speaker 9: to handle. They maintained it for a long time. It's

1410
01:16:10,387 --> 01:16:12,067
Speaker 9: up to him to have that work ethic and that

1411
01:16:12,187 --> 01:16:14,987
Speaker 9: determination to be like that for you know, the next

1412
01:16:15,267 --> 01:16:16,347
Speaker 9: nine or ten seasons.

1413
01:16:17,467 --> 01:16:23,587
Speaker 2: Let's got a Super Rugby round sixers in the books, Hurricanes, Blues, Crusaders, Chiefs,

1414
01:16:23,627 --> 01:16:26,227
Speaker 2: all inside the top six after well most of them

1415
01:16:26,227 --> 01:16:28,707
Speaker 2: played six games, some just five. Are you willing to

1416
01:16:29,547 --> 01:16:32,787
Speaker 2: install the Hurricanes as Super Rugby favorites?

1417
01:16:34,027 --> 01:16:35,987
Speaker 9: Well, I've always been willing to do that, Pony. It's

1418
01:16:36,027 --> 01:16:39,307
Speaker 9: not just because you know I'm on your show. There

1419
01:16:39,307 --> 01:16:41,827
Speaker 9: are many things I like about the Hurricanes, although I

1420
01:16:41,867 --> 01:16:46,107
Speaker 9: will say Kurbier enthusiasm, the great.

1421
01:16:46,027 --> 01:16:47,387
Speaker 2: Larry Davis another good show.

1422
01:16:47,507 --> 01:16:51,507
Speaker 9: Another good show, another really good show. Because you haven't

1423
01:16:51,547 --> 01:16:53,787
Speaker 9: really played anyone yet. You've played, you've won, or you've

1424
01:16:53,787 --> 01:16:55,867
Speaker 9: beaten all the button bottom teams. I noticed that the

1425
01:16:55,947 --> 01:16:59,587
Speaker 9: Hurricanes haven't quite played anyone in and that top echelon,

1426
01:16:59,747 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 9: so let's just wait. But I just love the way

1427
01:17:02,867 --> 01:17:06,667
Speaker 9: the Hurricanes play. They scored what I can see a

1428
01:17:08,227 --> 01:17:11,907
Speaker 9: worldie of a try from maybe seventy odd meters out,

1429
01:17:11,947 --> 01:17:14,507
Speaker 9: and they made it look so easy, and they did

1430
01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:17,867
Speaker 9: it so quick that it was like you would have

1431
01:17:17,867 --> 01:17:20,347
Speaker 9: been the hard press to sprint alongside and keep up

1432
01:17:20,467 --> 01:17:23,987
Speaker 9: because it wasn't just like stop start. The flow is

1433
01:17:24,067 --> 01:17:26,667
Speaker 9: incredible that they've got. I think you know the try

1434
01:17:26,667 --> 01:17:30,787
Speaker 9: I'm talking about. I think Devin Flanders finished it. And

1435
01:17:30,907 --> 01:17:33,387
Speaker 9: he is one player who I'd be quite happy to

1436
01:17:33,427 --> 01:17:35,907
Speaker 9: see him in an All Blacks jersey. And I wonder

1437
01:17:35,947 --> 01:17:39,067
Speaker 9: whether someone like Dave Rennie might just start taking a

1438
01:17:39,107 --> 01:17:41,787
Speaker 9: look at some of the people he likes, and I'm

1439
01:17:41,787 --> 01:17:44,867
Speaker 9: sure Devin Flanders will be standing out. And on that note,

1440
01:17:45,107 --> 01:17:48,147
Speaker 9: Ruben Love what a statement game from him. I don't

1441
01:17:48,187 --> 01:17:50,707
Speaker 9: think I've seen a better cross kick like that as

1442
01:17:50,747 --> 01:17:55,267
Speaker 9: a football man yourself, like me, Piney, that pass was

1443
01:17:55,387 --> 01:17:58,947
Speaker 9: like a Dutch team in the nineteen seventies, you know,

1444
01:17:59,627 --> 01:18:05,027
Speaker 9: total football, Johann Krout, changing directions, changing the point of attack.

1445
01:18:05,227 --> 01:18:07,747
Speaker 9: I thought switching that was amazing.

1446
01:18:07,787 --> 01:18:10,107
Speaker 2: That cross kick, yeah, I loved it too, It was

1447
01:18:10,667 --> 01:18:12,827
Speaker 2: awesome to watch. And you're right. I mean that the

1448
01:18:13,387 --> 01:18:15,947
Speaker 2: five games they've played are against the five teams who

1449
01:18:15,987 --> 01:18:19,787
Speaker 2: currently occupy the bottom five positions on the table outside

1450
01:18:19,827 --> 01:18:21,667
Speaker 2: the top six. So I get, I get exactly what

1451
01:18:21,707 --> 01:18:24,107
Speaker 2: you're saying. Hey, did you see Peyton Spencer make his

1452
01:18:24,187 --> 01:18:26,667
Speaker 2: debut for the Blues last night and then some really

1453
01:18:26,707 --> 01:18:29,347
Speaker 2: cool scenes afterwards. Carlos was there watching on He looks

1454
01:18:29,347 --> 01:18:30,267
Speaker 2: like he could still play.

1455
01:18:30,267 --> 01:18:35,707
Speaker 9: By the way Carlos is sickeningly sickeningly fits and well

1456
01:18:35,747 --> 01:18:41,827
Speaker 9: put together and always quite humbling interviewing him, and the

1457
01:18:41,827 --> 01:18:44,747
Speaker 9: way he sort of still looks like a total athlete,

1458
01:18:44,747 --> 01:18:48,827
Speaker 9: and I mean he I think it's actually really nice

1459
01:18:48,987 --> 01:18:52,547
Speaker 9: having a role model like Carlos, because he is. He

1460
01:18:52,627 --> 01:18:55,307
Speaker 9: was quite happy for Peyton to play cricket. Peyton was

1461
01:18:55,307 --> 01:18:59,307
Speaker 9: an outstanding cricketer at Hamilton Boys High and Carlos was

1462
01:18:59,347 --> 01:19:02,547
Speaker 9: all good with that and it was totally Peyton's call.

1463
01:19:02,627 --> 01:19:04,587
Speaker 9: There was zero pressure in fact, he was kind of

1464
01:19:04,627 --> 01:19:07,587
Speaker 9: hoping he might just end up the cricket who's a good,

1465
01:19:07,667 --> 01:19:10,987
Speaker 9: very good fast bowler. So now he's in rugby and

1466
01:19:11,027 --> 01:19:14,387
Speaker 9: his dad's game and look, he's a lovely kid. Can

1467
01:19:14,387 --> 01:19:16,587
Speaker 9: we call him mc kit he's twenty two, yeah, twenty

1468
01:19:16,627 --> 01:19:21,667
Speaker 9: one he is, and I mean he's also you know,

1469
01:19:22,067 --> 01:19:25,587
Speaker 9: there's so much potential there. It's just that I think

1470
01:19:26,067 --> 01:19:28,507
Speaker 9: I don't think the shadow. I don't think Carlos will

1471
01:19:28,907 --> 01:19:31,427
Speaker 9: cast the shadows. He's just like a Ronnie Clark. I

1472
01:19:31,427 --> 01:19:34,747
Speaker 9: think Caleb's his own own player now and his dad

1473
01:19:34,827 --> 01:19:37,547
Speaker 9: used to be amazing. That's all it is. But yeah,

1474
01:19:37,587 --> 01:19:39,667
Speaker 9: I did appreciate that when he was listening to all

1475
01:19:39,707 --> 01:19:42,147
Speaker 9: the people who were here for him, Carlos had to

1476
01:19:42,187 --> 01:19:44,587
Speaker 9: say remember mum, and he goes, oh, yeah, mum's here too.

1477
01:19:44,667 --> 01:19:48,827
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, love that. Or just to finish with a

1478
01:19:48,907 --> 01:19:52,067
Speaker 2: league football now, the Phoenix peak Brisbane yesterday. Do you know, Jim,

1479
01:19:52,107 --> 01:19:56,907
Speaker 2: that was the first time that the Phoenix have won

1480
01:19:57,027 --> 01:20:02,187
Speaker 2: consecutive matches in the A League since November twenty twenty four.

1481
01:20:02,587 --> 01:20:03,787
Speaker 2: That's a long time ago.

1482
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Speaker 9: I can't believe that. I love that. Chris Greenacre, who

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01:20:07,427 --> 01:20:09,467
Speaker 9: you know very well, and I've met a few times

1484
01:20:09,507 --> 01:20:11,227
Speaker 9: over the years because he's such a staple in New

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01:20:11,307 --> 01:20:14,107
Speaker 9: Zealand football. I'd love that he's taken over the team

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01:20:14,627 --> 01:20:18,907
Speaker 9: kept olloway Yemian goal. Many people would that many managers

1487
01:20:18,947 --> 01:20:22,227
Speaker 9: would not do that if he's had shown faith in

1488
01:20:22,387 --> 01:20:25,547
Speaker 9: a guy who's gone viral around the world for his calamities.

1489
01:20:26,067 --> 01:20:29,827
Speaker 9: He's also managed to somehow get the best out of

1490
01:20:30,427 --> 01:20:34,467
Speaker 9: Luke Brooks Smith, this teenager who's outrageous talent, and then

1491
01:20:34,507 --> 01:20:38,707
Speaker 9: of course he provided the assist for is the Nigerian

1492
01:20:38,747 --> 01:20:43,867
Speaker 9: striker who was really outstanding. My dream is for them

1493
01:20:43,907 --> 01:20:46,587
Speaker 9: to just make the playoffs and have to play Awkward

1494
01:20:46,747 --> 01:20:49,947
Speaker 9: FC and perhaps get a bit of redemption or at least,

1495
01:20:50,547 --> 01:20:52,867
Speaker 9: you know, make it just so close that it's a

1496
01:20:52,947 --> 01:20:56,267
Speaker 9: nail bider. That's that would be the ultimate redemption story,

1497
01:20:56,667 --> 01:21:00,227
Speaker 9: especially for the for Oway Yemian goal. But definitely I

1498
01:21:00,267 --> 01:21:02,907
Speaker 9: think for Greenacre he can They need to sign him

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Speaker 9: up as manager. He's waited long enough.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I got a couple of my WhatsApp groups were

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01:21:08,707 --> 01:21:11,307
Speaker 2: buzzing last night with that possibility that Auckland f C

1502
01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:15,347
Speaker 2: finished third, the Phoenix get up and somehow get into

1503
01:21:15,427 --> 01:21:18,867
Speaker 2: sixth and then three play six in an elimination final

1504
01:21:19,227 --> 01:21:21,507
Speaker 2: in Week one of the Week one of the playoffs.

1505
01:21:21,747 --> 01:21:23,947
Speaker 2: So off to go media. We go for Auckland f

1506
01:21:23,987 --> 01:21:27,547
Speaker 2: C against Wellington Phoenix, our first ever finals derby. How

1507
01:21:27,587 --> 01:21:28,227
Speaker 2: good would that be?

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01:21:28,987 --> 01:21:31,747
Speaker 9: I know that's and that I think both teams have

1509
01:21:31,787 --> 01:21:34,787
Speaker 9: shown really great signs. It was just that capitulation, which

1510
01:21:34,867 --> 01:21:37,147
Speaker 9: is always tough to take, especially I can see the

1511
01:21:37,147 --> 01:21:40,027
Speaker 9: Phoenix fans how much they're hurting. I think there's some

1512
01:21:40,107 --> 01:21:42,627
Speaker 9: good signs there. And when I look at the team sheet,

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01:21:42,667 --> 01:21:45,387
Speaker 9: I just go, I mean, come on, Bill Tuloma, You've

1514
01:21:45,427 --> 01:21:49,027
Speaker 9: got so much talent there. There is so much talent

1515
01:21:49,107 --> 01:21:50,907
Speaker 9: and of course you know Tim Payne or that and

1516
01:21:51,107 --> 01:21:54,187
Speaker 9: Alex ru for the old Guard. Look, don't keep the

1517
01:21:54,227 --> 01:21:57,307
Speaker 9: faith if you're part of Yellow Feet Fever is still

1518
01:21:57,307 --> 01:21:58,267
Speaker 9: a great side in there.

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Speaker 2: Top stuff. James always enjoyed chatting to you mate. Thanks, indeed,

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Speaker 2: we'll do it again next Sunday. James mcconey huge part

1521
01:22:05,387 --> 01:22:08,827
Speaker 2: of our Sundays. Catch him on the alternative commentary collective

1522
01:22:08,827 --> 01:22:11,387
Speaker 2: Crackos Wilden across your socials as well seven to two

1523
01:22:11,467 --> 01:22:12,107
Speaker 2: News Talks MB.

1524
01:22:12,867 --> 01:22:17,027
Speaker 1: The biggest names and sport are here. Weekend Sport with

1525
01:22:17,307 --> 01:22:20,427
Speaker 1: Jason Vine News Talks NB four to two.

1526
01:22:20,507 --> 01:22:22,267
Speaker 2: Alex Is pointed out to me on text that on

1527
01:22:22,307 --> 01:22:26,467
Speaker 2: Saturday April eleven, Auckland FC play Melbourne Victory at five,

1528
01:22:27,027 --> 01:22:30,147
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes play the Blues at seven, and the Warriors

1529
01:22:30,147 --> 01:22:32,987
Speaker 2: take on the Storm at nine point thirty five. Better

1530
01:22:32,987 --> 01:22:37,387
Speaker 2: book your tables, says Alex. Imagine that what an afternoon

1531
01:22:37,427 --> 01:22:41,507
Speaker 2: of sport can't wait. Speaking of Hurricanes v. Blues, that

1532
01:22:41,547 --> 01:22:44,347
Speaker 2: game will be the first time that Jason Holland, who

1533
01:22:44,387 --> 01:22:46,907
Speaker 2: is currently an assistant coach of the Hurricanes, will take

1534
01:22:46,947 --> 01:22:49,987
Speaker 2: on what will become his new team, the Blues, because

1535
01:22:50,027 --> 01:22:52,267
Speaker 2: he is head coach of the Blues next year. Jason

1536
01:22:52,267 --> 01:22:53,307
Speaker 2: Holland after two.

1537
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Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1538
01:22:58,107 --> 01:23:02,987
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1539
01:23:03,067 --> 01:23:07,507
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home Sport News

1540
01:23:07,547 --> 01:23:09,387
Speaker 1: Talks MBRE.

1541
01:23:09,427 --> 01:23:11,427
Speaker 2: Coming up seven past two. Welcome into the show. This

1542
01:23:11,507 --> 01:23:13,947
Speaker 2: is Weekend Sport for another hour or two. No, not

1543
01:23:14,347 --> 01:23:16,867
Speaker 2: the hour or two, just another hour dot of why

1544
01:23:16,867 --> 01:23:20,147
Speaker 2: I presume that we might go past three o'clock. Tim

1545
01:23:20,187 --> 01:23:25,187
Speaker 2: Beveridge is in after three. The Weekend Collective top rating show. Anyway,

1546
01:23:25,187 --> 01:23:28,947
Speaker 2: before we get there, Jason Holland standing by to chat

1547
01:23:28,947 --> 01:23:33,387
Speaker 2: to us, current assistant coach at the Hurricanes, former assistant

1548
01:23:33,427 --> 01:23:35,427
Speaker 2: coach with the All Blacks, next year head coach of

1549
01:23:35,467 --> 01:23:37,387
Speaker 2: the Blues, taking over from Vern Cootta. He's off to

1550
01:23:37,387 --> 01:23:40,307
Speaker 2: the Reds, of course. So what attracted Jason Holland to

1551
01:23:40,347 --> 01:23:43,627
Speaker 2: this role and what are his what are his goals

1552
01:23:43,627 --> 01:23:46,307
Speaker 2: for the Blues and how does he navigate the fact

1553
01:23:46,347 --> 01:23:48,547
Speaker 2: that he's with the Hurricanes at the moment, So I

1554
01:23:48,587 --> 01:23:50,667
Speaker 2: don't know. Foot in both camps strikes me as though

1555
01:23:50,707 --> 01:23:54,507
Speaker 2: Jason Holland's a one hundred percenter with whatever team he's involved,

1556
01:23:54,507 --> 01:23:56,547
Speaker 2: and I get the feeling that's what he'll say. He's

1557
01:23:56,947 --> 01:23:59,387
Speaker 2: chatting to us in a moment. Tim Robinson out of

1558
01:23:59,427 --> 01:24:05,627
Speaker 2: the black Caps doubleheader T twenty cricket doubleheader at Henry

1559
01:24:05,627 --> 01:24:09,507
Speaker 2: Stadium and Welling White Fern's underway against South Africa around

1560
01:24:09,507 --> 01:24:11,787
Speaker 2: two forty five, will give you toss details et cetera

1561
01:24:12,547 --> 01:24:14,707
Speaker 2: very shortly on that and then the black Caps against

1562
01:24:14,707 --> 01:24:18,627
Speaker 2: the South African men from seven fifteen tonight. Tim Robinson

1563
01:24:18,867 --> 01:24:20,467
Speaker 2: is with us and I want to chat to one

1564
01:24:20,467 --> 01:24:25,547
Speaker 2: of our most promising target shooters. His name is Isaac Jonq.

1565
01:24:25,907 --> 01:24:28,827
Speaker 2: He is off to the World Championships in Germany in

1566
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:31,547
Speaker 2: three disciplines in the middle of this year. He's on

1567
01:24:31,587 --> 01:24:33,667
Speaker 2: the show before we close at three o'clock as well.

1568
01:24:33,747 --> 01:24:36,267
Speaker 2: Our lines of communication always open though eight hundred and

1569
01:24:36,267 --> 01:24:39,027
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine two nine two for your text

1570
01:24:39,067 --> 01:24:42,907
Speaker 2: messages and emails to Jason at newstalkzb dot co dot nz.

1571
01:24:43,067 --> 01:24:45,747
Speaker 2: But as we took over eight past two, as we

1572
01:24:45,827 --> 01:24:48,187
Speaker 2: always do at around about this time on weekend sport,

1573
01:24:48,467 --> 01:24:50,747
Speaker 2: let's get you up to date with the myriad of

1574
01:24:50,747 --> 01:24:53,987
Speaker 2: sport that's been going on over the last twenty four

1575
01:24:53,987 --> 01:24:57,547
Speaker 2: hours or so, in case you missed it. Let's start

1576
01:24:57,547 --> 01:25:01,387
Speaker 2: in the Premier League. Everton humbling Chelsea heading.

1577
01:25:01,107 --> 01:25:03,947
Speaker 22: Down into Unji territory just to defender and a girl

1578
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Speaker 22: keep it a beat.

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Speaker 7: Woo.

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Speaker 22: The moise Blows are having a tarti creating a little

1581
01:25:12,147 --> 01:25:15,507
Speaker 22: bit of history Everton at three Chelsea nil.

1582
01:25:15,547 --> 01:25:18,867
Speaker 2: The final score to Super rug beat the Crusaders, knocking

1583
01:25:18,987 --> 01:25:22,507
Speaker 2: up back to back wins, dispatching Mwana PACIFICA.

1584
01:25:21,987 --> 01:25:25,267
Speaker 22: Crusaders in midfield meet rutside the twenty two Preston Weed

1585
01:25:25,347 --> 01:25:28,627
Speaker 22: double pump fee hockey fee hockey through the line and

1586
01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:33,667
Speaker 22: fee hockey at fee thirty two scores for the Crusaders

1587
01:25:34,107 --> 01:25:35,627
Speaker 22: and finally they strike.

1588
01:25:35,387 --> 01:25:39,467
Speaker 2: Forty eight fifty twenty one the final score across the Tasman.

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01:25:39,507 --> 01:25:42,507
Speaker 2: The Blues extended they're winning streak to three games and.

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Speaker 10: The Blues get another one body right running ball the

1591
01:25:45,427 --> 01:25:46,507
Speaker 10: space outed out.

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Speaker 25: The aj Lamb's up on the aj.

1593
01:25:49,427 --> 01:25:52,867
Speaker 2: Lamb, we're Glas over Lands.

1594
01:25:52,627 --> 01:25:57,507
Speaker 25: Scores his second up the night and the Blues go

1595
01:25:57,667 --> 01:25:58,467
Speaker 25: to twenty eight to.

1596
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Speaker 2: Twenty high excitement, thirty five twenty the final score there

1597
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Speaker 2: to the NRL, the Dolphins taking home the spoils and

1598
01:26:05,627 --> 01:26:09,947
Speaker 2: the ocean. Arby's to the boorn movement Viahe's top up offered.

1599
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Speaker 19: The Corona Pass's gonna put the icy on the cake,

1600
01:26:14,667 --> 01:26:18,387
Speaker 19: light up the tenders and then have you taken at

1601
01:26:18,467 --> 01:26:21,827
Speaker 19: two Dolphins they're winning, running.

1602
01:26:21,507 --> 01:26:25,267
Speaker 2: Away, dispatching the Sharks thirty eight points to ten, still

1603
01:26:25,267 --> 01:26:28,107
Speaker 2: on that side of the ditch, a record breaking win

1604
01:26:28,627 --> 01:26:31,467
Speaker 2: for Kiwi jockey James McDonald to the back.

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01:26:31,507 --> 01:26:34,267
Speaker 18: Then the Green spaces running on, but the Taunm boy

1606
01:26:34,347 --> 01:26:37,387
Speaker 18: clearing the rose hell giness Ah, this is a wedder

1607
01:26:37,547 --> 01:26:40,467
Speaker 18: to the live forever for Jane McDonald one hundred and

1608
01:26:40,467 --> 01:26:43,067
Speaker 18: thirty Group one winners and what a performance.

1609
01:26:43,307 --> 01:26:46,667
Speaker 2: And in the A League, MacArthur stunning Aukland f C

1610
01:26:47,147 --> 01:26:49,987
Speaker 2: the A League after.

1611
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Speaker 22: Delivery and he's up in their second time this season.

1612
01:26:54,827 --> 01:26:57,867
Speaker 19: Tommy O's com scores.

1613
01:26:57,467 --> 01:27:02,467
Speaker 22: Against Autland f C lit tie almost unmarked and headed

1614
01:27:02,507 --> 01:27:04,307
Speaker 22: home in the shadows.

1615
01:27:03,867 --> 01:27:07,747
Speaker 2: Of halftime, MacArthur winning that one two one. But by contrast,

1616
01:27:07,747 --> 01:27:11,547
Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix men might be back and on the

1617
01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:12,347
Speaker 2: counter attack.

1618
01:27:12,427 --> 01:27:16,467
Speaker 25: Here Cantors Brooks Smith, he's got sip speed links up Ezah.

1619
01:27:18,667 --> 01:27:23,747
Speaker 25: Is it a goal which may salvage their season? If

1620
01:27:23,787 --> 01:27:29,627
Speaker 25: fine azach When Willington have needed Amanda step up this season,

1621
01:27:30,067 --> 01:27:31,867
Speaker 25: it's always been the.

1622
01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:37,747
Speaker 1: Nigerian analyzing the plays and getting the inside Weekend Sport

1623
01:27:38,067 --> 01:27:40,427
Speaker 1: with Jason Vine Newstalks, NB.

1624
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Speaker 2: News Talks, HEB and Weekend Sport eleven past two. The

1625
01:27:44,227 --> 01:27:47,667
Speaker 2: Blues have signed Jason Holland as their next head coach

1626
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Speaker 2: on a three year deal beginning next season. The former

1627
01:27:51,547 --> 01:27:54,827
Speaker 2: All Blacks assistant is currently back on Clark Laidlaw staff

1628
01:27:54,867 --> 01:27:57,827
Speaker 2: at the Hurricanes, where he spent four seasons as head

1629
01:27:57,867 --> 01:28:02,947
Speaker 2: coach between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three inclusive, Jason

1630
01:28:02,987 --> 01:28:06,227
Speaker 2: Holland will replace Vern Cotter. He's leaving after the season

1631
01:28:06,507 --> 01:28:10,427
Speaker 2: take over at the Queensland Reds. Jason Holland is with

1632
01:28:10,507 --> 01:28:13,027
Speaker 2: us on Weekend Sport Jays. Congratulations on the new role.

1633
01:28:13,067 --> 01:28:15,907
Speaker 2: Why does this feel like the right move for you.

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01:28:16,827 --> 01:28:21,787
Speaker 23: It's obviously an exciting opportunity for me for twenty seven. Obviously,

1635
01:28:21,787 --> 01:28:27,627
Speaker 23: Blues are club sticked with history over the last thirty years. Actually,

1636
01:28:27,667 --> 01:28:30,387
Speaker 23: ironically I was at the Canes Blues game thirty years ago,

1637
01:28:30,547 --> 01:28:33,787
Speaker 23: so I've just remembered that over the last twenty four hours.

1638
01:28:33,827 --> 01:28:36,947
Speaker 23: But no, look, any conversations I've had with the people

1639
01:28:37,027 --> 01:28:42,667
Speaker 23: in the Blues is a clear potential to continue to

1640
01:28:42,707 --> 01:28:44,827
Speaker 23: build on the on the great stuff that's been going on.

1641
01:28:46,547 --> 01:28:48,587
Speaker 23: And I see so much potential with the people there,

1642
01:28:48,587 --> 01:28:52,227
Speaker 23: with the players, with the management, and the opportunity there

1643
01:28:52,267 --> 01:28:55,787
Speaker 23: to try and play some footy and win some games

1644
01:28:55,987 --> 01:28:58,547
Speaker 23: and excite the people around the Auckland region and the

1645
01:28:58,587 --> 01:29:01,347
Speaker 23: Northland region, the Blues region is pretty exciting for me.

1646
01:29:01,507 --> 01:29:06,227
Speaker 23: So obviously it's six months away before you know I

1647
01:29:06,467 --> 01:29:09,987
Speaker 23: fully invest myself in that, but it's a pretty good

1648
01:29:09,987 --> 01:29:10,667
Speaker 23: opportunity for me.

1649
01:29:10,707 --> 01:29:13,467
Speaker 2: I think were you always keen to get back into

1650
01:29:13,547 --> 01:29:14,627
Speaker 2: a head coaching role.

1651
01:29:15,427 --> 01:29:20,307
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think definitely definitely wanted to be a head

1652
01:29:20,347 --> 01:29:22,547
Speaker 23: coach at some stage. Like I enjoy the attack role

1653
01:29:22,587 --> 01:29:26,307
Speaker 23: obviously and just bossing attack. But you know, you learn

1654
01:29:26,387 --> 01:29:27,907
Speaker 23: things along the way, don't you, And you pick up

1655
01:29:27,907 --> 01:29:32,227
Speaker 23: little things and you understand more and more around people

1656
01:29:32,227 --> 01:29:33,987
Speaker 23: and how you get the best out of people. I think,

1657
01:29:34,027 --> 01:29:37,947
Speaker 23: and so as I sort of really dug deep over

1658
01:29:37,987 --> 01:29:40,787
Speaker 23: the last three or four months figuring out exactly what

1659
01:29:40,827 --> 01:29:42,747
Speaker 23: I wanted to do, was clear that helping people to

1660
01:29:42,747 --> 01:29:44,587
Speaker 23: be at their best is a messive.

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Speaker 26: Part of what I do. And I still want to

1662
01:29:47,467 --> 01:29:48,387
Speaker 26: be fully invested in.

1663
01:29:50,147 --> 01:29:52,347
Speaker 23: The attack side of the game and how you play

1664
01:29:52,387 --> 01:29:55,067
Speaker 23: the game, but also, you know, I'm pretty excited about

1665
01:29:55,147 --> 01:29:56,827
Speaker 23: trying to help other people be at their best, and

1666
01:29:56,867 --> 01:29:58,667
Speaker 23: I see that a big part of being a head coach.

1667
01:29:59,227 --> 01:30:01,147
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on your time JAS with the

1668
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,907
Speaker 2: All Blacks and how much do you think that improved

1669
01:30:03,947 --> 01:30:04,907
Speaker 2: you as a coach?

1670
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Speaker 23: Think that's just natural, you know, in this coaching world,

1671
01:30:08,747 --> 01:30:11,867
Speaker 23: and I think whoever you talk to around your progression

1672
01:30:11,947 --> 01:30:15,187
Speaker 23: and you go from you know, from year to year,

1673
01:30:15,227 --> 01:30:17,547
Speaker 23: from season to season, and different environments, you pick up

1674
01:30:17,587 --> 01:30:21,307
Speaker 23: things that I do that differently for myself. You know,

1675
01:30:21,947 --> 01:30:24,067
Speaker 23: I used to do that a bit. You know, I

1676
01:30:24,107 --> 01:30:27,347
Speaker 23: can be better there. So I think, you know, it's

1677
01:30:27,627 --> 01:30:29,907
Speaker 23: not relevant to the All Blacks, It's not relevant to anything.

1678
01:30:29,907 --> 01:30:31,827
Speaker 23: I think it's just relevant to another season the footy

1679
01:30:31,867 --> 01:30:34,867
Speaker 23: with different players and different people that you pick up

1680
01:30:34,907 --> 01:30:38,147
Speaker 23: things that you like and you find ways to be better.

1681
01:30:38,187 --> 01:30:41,267
Speaker 26: And I think that's pretty important.

1682
01:30:40,907 --> 01:30:43,907
Speaker 23: For us as coaches, that you don't get stuck thinking

1683
01:30:43,907 --> 01:30:47,027
Speaker 23: you have it right, because we never really do because

1684
01:30:47,107 --> 01:30:49,347
Speaker 23: everything's involving so quickly and you can always be better.

1685
01:30:49,387 --> 01:30:51,387
Speaker 26: So yeah, I'm learning.

1686
01:30:51,427 --> 01:30:53,987
Speaker 23: I'm learning all and I'll jump back into the Canes

1687
01:30:54,027 --> 01:30:57,947
Speaker 23: and had a lesser role with we've good people in

1688
01:30:57,987 --> 01:31:02,427
Speaker 23: there and learning more so yep, always always getting better.

1689
01:31:02,587 --> 01:31:05,187
Speaker 2: And how are you feeling about donning the blue and

1690
01:31:05,227 --> 01:31:08,027
Speaker 2: white of the Blue after such a long connection with

1691
01:31:08,067 --> 01:31:08,787
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes.

1692
01:31:09,587 --> 01:31:12,627
Speaker 23: Yeah, no, obviously the Canes has been a big part

1693
01:31:12,627 --> 01:31:14,267
Speaker 23: of my life, you know, over the last ten years

1694
01:31:15,467 --> 01:31:18,267
Speaker 23: and sort of you know, a mess of gratitude towards

1695
01:31:18,307 --> 01:31:19,907
Speaker 23: what the Canes have given me. And I hope that

1696
01:31:20,187 --> 01:31:22,227
Speaker 23: I've left a bit of an impact in the Canes

1697
01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:24,427
Speaker 23: when we finish up the twenty sixth season over those

1698
01:31:24,427 --> 01:31:27,827
Speaker 23: ten years, but rarely is it's an exciting I know,

1699
01:31:27,867 --> 01:31:29,427
Speaker 23: it's a great group of people up in the Blues.

1700
01:31:29,467 --> 01:31:31,907
Speaker 23: As I said to you, it's the legacy of the

1701
01:31:31,947 --> 01:31:35,707
Speaker 23: club is exciting and excited around the community up there.

1702
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:41,707
Speaker 26: So sure to be different, but I suppose I've always been.

1703
01:31:41,547 --> 01:31:43,747
Speaker 23: One that once you're in an environment, you're one hundred

1704
01:31:43,747 --> 01:31:45,907
Speaker 23: percent in, And I'll be in the Canes one hundred

1705
01:31:45,947 --> 01:31:49,627
Speaker 23: percent until the end of the season, and then I'll

1706
01:31:49,667 --> 01:31:52,107
Speaker 23: be pumped about getting into the Blues and studying something

1707
01:31:52,147 --> 01:31:52,907
Speaker 23: a little bit different.

1708
01:31:53,347 --> 01:31:55,667
Speaker 2: Just on that, Jase, You've still obviously got current commitments

1709
01:31:55,707 --> 01:31:58,587
Speaker 2: with the Hurricanes as assistant coach, So how do you

1710
01:31:58,667 --> 01:32:01,547
Speaker 2: balance that staying present in your current role while also

1711
01:32:02,107 --> 01:32:04,267
Speaker 2: having half a mind or some of your mind on

1712
01:32:04,987 --> 01:32:07,987
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven with the Blue look.

1713
01:32:08,307 --> 01:32:09,547
Speaker 23: I don't think it's going to be too tough, to

1714
01:32:09,627 --> 01:32:14,107
Speaker 23: be honest, as I said, dealing with the with the

1715
01:32:14,107 --> 01:32:17,427
Speaker 23: boys and the Blues, that's outstanding, really really clear around

1716
01:32:18,027 --> 01:32:21,067
Speaker 23: from both sides, you know, making sure that we're really

1717
01:32:21,067 --> 01:32:22,947
Speaker 23: focused on what's the job at hand at the moment.

1718
01:32:24,707 --> 01:32:27,267
Speaker 23: Obviously there'll be little bits of catch ups every now

1719
01:32:27,267 --> 01:32:30,107
Speaker 23: and then to make sure everything's on track. But reality is,

1720
01:32:31,587 --> 01:32:34,027
Speaker 23: you know, it should be ninety five percent mindset around

1721
01:32:34,227 --> 01:32:35,947
Speaker 23: around the canes. In a little bit of spare time,

1722
01:32:36,027 --> 01:32:40,187
Speaker 23: we'll tidy up things getting forward. So I think the

1723
01:32:40,227 --> 01:32:42,267
Speaker 23: beauty and what I really appreciate is both clubs have

1724
01:32:42,307 --> 01:32:46,987
Speaker 23: been really great around understanding that and understanding that. As

1725
01:32:47,027 --> 01:32:49,107
Speaker 23: I said, I'm fully invested in what I'm doing at

1726
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:53,147
Speaker 23: the time, and then when it's when it's time to

1727
01:32:53,187 --> 01:32:54,827
Speaker 23: do something else, I'll be fully invested in that.

1728
01:32:54,947 --> 01:32:56,147
Speaker 26: So the clubs have been great around that.

1729
01:32:56,867 --> 01:32:59,347
Speaker 2: You're well known obviously for your work with the backs

1730
01:32:59,387 --> 01:33:01,947
Speaker 2: and on attack, Ruben Love singing your praises on the

1731
01:33:02,027 --> 01:33:04,907
Speaker 2: radio yesterday as well. On that as a head coach,

1732
01:33:05,027 --> 01:33:08,867
Speaker 2: do you naturally gravitate towards the attacking side of the

1733
01:33:08,907 --> 01:33:11,187
Speaker 2: game the back line side of the game.

1734
01:33:12,147 --> 01:33:14,467
Speaker 23: That's good observation point it because obviously that is a

1735
01:33:14,467 --> 01:33:19,067
Speaker 23: little tweak from where I'm at. I suppose in my

1736
01:33:19,107 --> 01:33:20,947
Speaker 23: mindset at the moment, it's around what we do with

1737
01:33:20,987 --> 01:33:23,107
Speaker 23: the ball on how we I suppose big picture, how

1738
01:33:23,147 --> 01:33:27,067
Speaker 23: we win the games. But you know, it's maybe something

1739
01:33:27,067 --> 01:33:30,547
Speaker 23: that I thought around my last scope as a head coach,

1740
01:33:30,587 --> 01:33:32,907
Speaker 23: and that maybe I need to make sure I'm really

1741
01:33:32,947 --> 01:33:35,787
Speaker 23: rounded around the defense and around breakdown, around all those

1742
01:33:35,787 --> 01:33:38,187
Speaker 23: little things of the game that set peace, stuff that

1743
01:33:38,187 --> 01:33:41,347
Speaker 23: I know lots about that you know that I can

1744
01:33:41,427 --> 01:33:43,307
Speaker 23: put a bit of a focus on. And but as

1745
01:33:43,347 --> 01:33:45,547
Speaker 23: I say, I've got a bit of a as I've

1746
01:33:45,627 --> 01:33:48,307
Speaker 23: learned around especially for a coaching staff, how do I

1747
01:33:48,347 --> 01:33:50,187
Speaker 23: help all the coaches be at their best? And that

1748
01:33:50,227 --> 01:33:53,307
Speaker 23: will mean that I need to be really smarter and

1749
01:33:53,427 --> 01:33:55,427
Speaker 23: understanding all parts of the game and how we get

1750
01:33:56,427 --> 01:33:57,347
Speaker 23: coaches at their best.

1751
01:33:57,907 --> 01:34:00,507
Speaker 2: How do you reckon you'll go sitting in a Blues

1752
01:34:00,547 --> 01:34:03,267
Speaker 2: coaching box coaching against the Hurricanes.

1753
01:34:04,387 --> 01:34:06,987
Speaker 26: Yeah, look, it'll be it'll be different.

1754
01:34:07,107 --> 01:34:10,907
Speaker 23: But as I said to you, once I'm in, I'm in,

1755
01:34:11,667 --> 01:34:14,627
Speaker 23: and when it comes to twenty seven, then there's going

1756
01:34:14,707 --> 01:34:16,147
Speaker 23: to be one thing on my mind in that game,

1757
01:34:16,187 --> 01:34:18,787
Speaker 23: around around getting a result, which is which is footy,

1758
01:34:18,827 --> 01:34:22,067
Speaker 23: isn't it? So it's a reality of it. As I said,

1759
01:34:22,547 --> 01:34:26,307
Speaker 23: the Canes laways be part of who I am, and

1760
01:34:26,387 --> 01:34:29,987
Speaker 23: that'll yeah, the Blues will become part of who I am.

1761
01:34:30,027 --> 01:34:31,547
Speaker 26: The minimum in there, and just.

1762
01:34:31,787 --> 01:34:34,867
Speaker 2: A wider question in terms of your evolution as a coach,

1763
01:34:34,987 --> 01:34:38,227
Speaker 2: and I know you're always looking to learn more. How

1764
01:34:38,307 --> 01:34:41,427
Speaker 2: have you evolved as a coach over your time with

1765
01:34:41,507 --> 01:34:42,947
Speaker 2: elite rugby teams?

1766
01:34:43,707 --> 01:34:45,547
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think I think probably the biggest thing for

1767
01:34:45,587 --> 01:34:48,347
Speaker 23: me point over the last last few years is made

1768
01:34:48,347 --> 01:34:52,107
Speaker 23: I've always been let's play, let's play great footy, let's

1769
01:34:52,147 --> 01:34:55,667
Speaker 23: throw the ball around. I think I probably learned you

1770
01:34:55,667 --> 01:34:57,947
Speaker 23: can still do that, but the balance of how you win,

1771
01:35:00,347 --> 01:35:03,867
Speaker 23: making sure that all the simple little parts of the game,

1772
01:35:03,907 --> 01:35:05,507
Speaker 23: which maybe I would have found a little bit boring

1773
01:35:05,587 --> 01:35:09,387
Speaker 23: in the past, how they can setch up to play well.

1774
01:35:11,187 --> 01:35:13,187
Speaker 23: And I think probably what we got on Friday night

1775
01:35:13,267 --> 01:35:15,027
Speaker 23: from the Hurricanes is probably a good part of that,

1776
01:35:15,187 --> 01:35:18,267
Speaker 23: and that you would have seen the simple things done

1777
01:35:18,267 --> 01:35:20,627
Speaker 23: really well in the game management part allowed us to

1778
01:35:20,667 --> 01:35:24,307
Speaker 23: play some footing, and that's probably how is what has

1779
01:35:24,307 --> 01:35:25,667
Speaker 23: been important to me going forward.

1780
01:35:25,867 --> 01:35:28,227
Speaker 2: And how much do you think you'll tweak the way

1781
01:35:28,307 --> 01:35:31,867
Speaker 2: the Blues have played under Vernecotta once you become their

1782
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:32,387
Speaker 2: head coach.

1783
01:35:33,187 --> 01:35:37,067
Speaker 23: Oh, look what I've seen is they won a championship,

1784
01:35:37,107 --> 01:35:38,027
Speaker 23: won the title.

1785
01:35:39,307 --> 01:35:39,667
Speaker 27: Again.

1786
01:35:39,867 --> 01:35:43,587
Speaker 23: Saw the style last night, how they were dominant to

1787
01:35:43,627 --> 01:35:45,867
Speaker 23: get up over the tars up front.

1788
01:35:45,867 --> 01:35:49,627
Speaker 26: Obviously it's a massive part.

1789
01:35:49,467 --> 01:35:51,027
Speaker 23: Of the game, and we'll be looking to build on

1790
01:35:51,067 --> 01:35:52,267
Speaker 23: all the great stuff that they're doing.

1791
01:35:52,307 --> 01:35:56,547
Speaker 26: At the moment. I'd still like we saw the second.

1792
01:35:56,227 --> 01:35:59,227
Speaker 23: Half last last night, the Blues spreading the ball again,

1793
01:35:59,267 --> 01:36:01,347
Speaker 23: in the ball to Caleb Clark's hands and those sorts

1794
01:36:01,347 --> 01:36:03,147
Speaker 23: of things which got them the bonus point in the end.

1795
01:36:03,227 --> 01:36:05,787
Speaker 23: So no, not massive tweaks to what's been doing. I

1796
01:36:05,827 --> 01:36:08,867
Speaker 23: want to make sure all the good work that Vern's

1797
01:36:08,907 --> 01:36:12,627
Speaker 23: installed around how that pack's going set peace. Their dominance

1798
01:36:12,667 --> 01:36:15,067
Speaker 23: with the physicality is still a big part of how

1799
01:36:15,107 --> 01:36:19,267
Speaker 23: the Blues play, you know. I've just got a real

1800
01:36:19,467 --> 01:36:22,507
Speaker 23: drive to make sure that the drive skill sets and

1801
01:36:22,547 --> 01:36:24,227
Speaker 23: to make sure you can play both ways. You can

1802
01:36:24,267 --> 01:36:26,147
Speaker 23: be nice and direct, but you can also play with

1803
01:36:27,107 --> 01:36:30,267
Speaker 23: when the time is there. So you're just hoping to

1804
01:36:30,267 --> 01:36:32,307
Speaker 23: build on all the great things that the Blues have

1805
01:36:32,347 --> 01:36:33,787
Speaker 23: been doing over the last couple of years.

1806
01:36:33,947 --> 01:36:36,987
Speaker 2: Good Man, Jose, congratulations again on the roll and all

1807
01:36:36,987 --> 01:36:38,227
Speaker 2: the best for the rest of this season with the

1808
01:36:38,307 --> 01:36:40,667
Speaker 2: Hurricanes and then as you've attack a new challenge in

1809
01:36:40,667 --> 01:36:44,427
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Jason Holland has been confirmed as the

1810
01:36:44,467 --> 01:36:47,907
Speaker 2: Blues head coach for twenty twenty seven and beyond a

1811
01:36:47,947 --> 01:36:50,987
Speaker 2: three year deal beginning next season, taking the place of

1812
01:36:51,067 --> 01:36:52,987
Speaker 2: Verne Cotter who was off to the Reds, to take

1813
01:36:53,027 --> 01:36:55,547
Speaker 2: over from Les Kiss who was off to the Wallabies.

1814
01:36:55,867 --> 01:37:00,027
Speaker 2: Of course, so these slots open and then they're filled

1815
01:37:00,307 --> 01:37:04,627
Speaker 2: and we move on to twenty one. We'll get you

1816
01:37:04,787 --> 01:37:07,787
Speaker 2: to henry St and Wellington in the it's a little

1817
01:37:07,787 --> 01:37:10,627
Speaker 2: while just to check on toss and in details. In

1818
01:37:11,267 --> 01:37:13,787
Speaker 2: the first game of the doubleheader there White Ferns against

1819
01:37:14,067 --> 01:37:16,787
Speaker 2: South Africa, black Caps against South Africa to follow from

1820
01:37:16,827 --> 01:37:19,787
Speaker 2: seven to fifteen tonight. Can report us a beautiful day

1821
01:37:19,907 --> 01:37:22,387
Speaker 2: in the Capitol. Absolutely no problem in terms of getting

1822
01:37:22,427 --> 01:37:27,707
Speaker 2: the games done. It's very pleasant indeed in Wellington City.

1823
01:37:28,347 --> 01:37:30,467
Speaker 2: When we come back though. Tim Robinson out of the

1824
01:37:30,507 --> 01:37:33,507
Speaker 2: black Caps playing in his hometown. He's a Wellington boy,

1825
01:37:33,547 --> 01:37:37,227
Speaker 2: of course, he's part of this team that's at the

1826
01:37:37,347 --> 01:37:39,987
Speaker 2: moment two one ahead of South Africa in their series.

1827
01:37:40,507 --> 01:37:43,267
Speaker 2: Still looking for that big score in this series. Tim Robinson,

1828
01:37:43,307 --> 01:37:44,667
Speaker 2: is it going to come today? We'll chat to him

1829
01:37:44,667 --> 01:37:48,867
Speaker 2: when we come back here. On weekend, Sport tackles harder opinions.

1830
01:37:49,107 --> 01:37:53,387
Speaker 1: We can Sport with Jason Paine and GJ Gardlos, New

1831
01:37:53,467 --> 01:37:56,267
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks that'd be.

1832
01:37:56,787 --> 01:38:00,147
Speaker 2: Two twenty four International T twenty cricket double header in

1833
01:38:00,227 --> 01:38:04,027
Speaker 2: Wellington today can tell you that from Henry Stadium. That's

1834
01:38:04,067 --> 01:38:07,267
Speaker 2: the new name of the stadium by the way, Henry Stadium.

1835
01:38:07,387 --> 01:38:10,867
Speaker 2: South Africa have won the toss and unsurprisingly have opted

1836
01:38:10,907 --> 01:38:14,147
Speaker 2: to bat first in the women's international. Drop and pitch there,

1837
01:38:14,187 --> 01:38:17,507
Speaker 2: of course in Wellington with Super Rugby and a league

1838
01:38:17,507 --> 01:38:19,907
Speaker 2: football of course being played on the same patch of grass,

1839
01:38:19,907 --> 01:38:23,907
Speaker 2: so they drop a cricket pitch in. They're always batter friendly,

1840
01:38:23,947 --> 01:38:26,267
Speaker 2: aren't they. On a beautiful day with the hardly any

1841
01:38:26,267 --> 01:38:29,187
Speaker 2: wind around, you'd have to think they'll be batter friendly conditioned.

1842
01:38:29,227 --> 01:38:32,307
Speaker 2: So hardly surprising that South Africa have won the toss

1843
01:38:32,387 --> 01:38:35,307
Speaker 2: in the women's game and have elected to bat first.

1844
01:38:35,347 --> 01:38:38,827
Speaker 2: They'll be underway in around twenty minutes from now following

1845
01:38:38,867 --> 01:38:41,627
Speaker 2: that Game four in the five match T twenty series

1846
01:38:41,947 --> 01:38:45,747
Speaker 2: between the black Caps and South Africa. Seven point fifteen

1847
01:38:46,147 --> 01:38:48,907
Speaker 2: is the scheduled time for the first ball. New Zealand

1848
01:38:48,987 --> 01:38:51,467
Speaker 2: leads the series two to one after their eight wicket

1849
01:38:51,547 --> 01:38:54,347
Speaker 2: victory at Eden Park in Auckland on Friday night.

1850
01:38:59,467 --> 01:39:11,507
Speaker 4: I'm so well struck for four A Robinson easy as before.

1851
01:39:11,707 --> 01:39:14,227
Speaker 4: Tim Robinson crunches.

1852
01:39:13,827 --> 01:39:17,307
Speaker 2: That before Black Caps batter Tim Robinson was out just

1853
01:39:17,307 --> 01:39:19,627
Speaker 2: before the final runs were hit on Friday night, he

1854
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:22,107
Speaker 2: joins us. Now you've got the series lead now, Tim,

1855
01:39:22,467 --> 01:39:25,027
Speaker 2: with wins in games two and three. How important were

1856
01:39:25,027 --> 01:39:27,947
Speaker 2: those performances and those victories to put yourself in a

1857
01:39:27,947 --> 01:39:30,867
Speaker 2: position now to win the series today? After I guess

1858
01:39:30,867 --> 01:39:34,867
Speaker 2: what would have been a slightly disappointing showing in game

1859
01:39:34,947 --> 01:39:35,787
Speaker 2: one of the series.

1860
01:39:36,667 --> 01:39:37,747
Speaker 27: Yeah, absolutely, it's been.

1861
01:39:37,787 --> 01:39:39,267
Speaker 28: It was a little bit of a shaky start that

1862
01:39:39,387 --> 01:39:43,587
Speaker 28: for the first game, but yeah, a few good performances

1863
01:39:44,027 --> 01:39:46,387
Speaker 28: in games two and three sort of called it back

1864
01:39:46,427 --> 01:39:46,747
Speaker 28: for us.

1865
01:39:46,787 --> 01:39:48,907
Speaker 27: But I think it's more important than we can put

1866
01:39:48,907 --> 01:39:49,387
Speaker 27: the foot.

1867
01:39:49,227 --> 01:39:51,627
Speaker 28: On the throat a little bit and make sure that

1868
01:39:51,747 --> 01:39:53,867
Speaker 28: so the Afrigot don't get a sniff in the series.

1869
01:39:53,947 --> 01:39:56,387
Speaker 27: So yeah, it'll be obviously another.

1870
01:39:56,187 --> 01:39:59,667
Speaker 28: Game tonight and a new challenge, so hopefully we can

1871
01:39:59,707 --> 01:40:02,667
Speaker 28: adapt to that quickly and put another good performance up there.

1872
01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:05,187
Speaker 2: You have kept there batting under wraps really well in

1873
01:40:05,547 --> 01:40:07,947
Speaker 2: games two and three, one o seven in Game two

1874
01:40:07,947 --> 01:40:09,667
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six for nine. The other night

1875
01:40:09,667 --> 01:40:12,547
Speaker 2: in Auckland in Game three and a game T twenty

1876
01:40:12,587 --> 01:40:15,107
Speaker 2: that's dominated by the bat. How much pride does the

1877
01:40:15,107 --> 01:40:17,867
Speaker 2: team taken in the way you've bowled and fielded in

1878
01:40:17,907 --> 01:40:19,187
Speaker 2: the last couple of games.

1879
01:40:19,947 --> 01:40:20,667
Speaker 27: Yeah. Absolutely.

1880
01:40:20,707 --> 01:40:24,027
Speaker 28: I think our bowlers are obviously world class and they've

1881
01:40:24,027 --> 01:40:26,787
Speaker 28: showed their class over the last three games. I also

1882
01:40:26,827 --> 01:40:31,987
Speaker 28: think that the wickets we've been playing on haven't haven't traditionally,

1883
01:40:32,027 --> 01:40:35,027
Speaker 28: you know, been your traditional T twenty wickets. They've they've

1884
01:40:35,067 --> 01:40:37,107
Speaker 28: had a little bit of assistance for the bowlers, which

1885
01:40:37,107 --> 01:40:39,547
Speaker 28: I think is quite a good thing, a bit more

1886
01:40:39,547 --> 01:40:42,867
Speaker 28: of an even content contest between bat and ball. So yeah,

1887
01:40:43,067 --> 01:40:44,667
Speaker 28: I mean, it doesn't help when you're when you're trying

1888
01:40:44,667 --> 01:40:47,187
Speaker 28: to face Lockey Ferguson at bowling one hundred and fifty

1889
01:40:47,267 --> 01:40:49,387
Speaker 28: k's and we're trying to face Kyle Jameson, who's bowling

1890
01:40:49,427 --> 01:40:51,827
Speaker 28: it from bloody seven feet two, you know. So it's

1891
01:40:51,867 --> 01:40:55,387
Speaker 28: definitely challenging for the South African, for the South African batters,

1892
01:40:55,387 --> 01:40:57,707
Speaker 28: and I am sure as sure as heck wouldn't want

1893
01:40:57,707 --> 01:40:59,267
Speaker 28: to wouldn't want to face us, that's sure.

1894
01:40:59,707 --> 01:41:01,747
Speaker 2: Looking at Locky Ferguson bowl the other night, was he

1895
01:41:01,787 --> 01:41:04,827
Speaker 2: four overs one for nine, which in T twenty crickets

1896
01:41:04,907 --> 01:41:07,267
Speaker 2: just you know, unheard of. Wasn't you feel like he

1897
01:41:07,267 --> 01:41:09,947
Speaker 2: could go for a few because he does so bowl

1898
01:41:10,067 --> 01:41:12,627
Speaker 2: so quick and you know he just can fly for

1899
01:41:12,747 --> 01:41:15,147
Speaker 2: boundaries or even for six of Eden Park. What is

1900
01:41:15,147 --> 01:41:17,867
Speaker 2: it about Lockie Ferguson that that is so effective in

1901
01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:18,827
Speaker 2: T twenty cricket?

1902
01:41:19,907 --> 01:41:22,867
Speaker 28: Yeah, you're right, I think is equally impressively of being

1903
01:41:22,867 --> 01:41:25,867
Speaker 28: at eden Park where those straight boundaries are obviously quite short.

1904
01:41:26,507 --> 01:41:28,427
Speaker 27: But I think what makes him different.

1905
01:41:28,467 --> 01:41:31,147
Speaker 28: I mean he's obviously got his raw pace, which is

1906
01:41:31,307 --> 01:41:34,627
Speaker 28: which is just uncomfortable as the batter, but he also

1907
01:41:34,667 --> 01:41:37,307
Speaker 28: swings the ball. He's got great control of his length,

1908
01:41:37,907 --> 01:41:40,267
Speaker 28: and he's got very deceptive slow balls as well, which

1909
01:41:40,307 --> 01:41:42,267
Speaker 28: I think is very which is crucial in the T

1910
01:41:42,267 --> 01:41:45,467
Speaker 28: twenty games, especially in the modern era where where bad

1911
01:41:45,507 --> 01:41:48,387
Speaker 28: as are trying to give it a real good whack. So, no,

1912
01:41:48,507 --> 01:41:52,787
Speaker 28: he's got pace, he's got skill, he's got yea variability

1913
01:41:52,867 --> 01:41:55,467
Speaker 28: and and and a little bit of mystery as well

1914
01:41:55,467 --> 01:41:57,867
Speaker 28: with his slow balls. So he's sort of well, he

1915
01:41:58,427 --> 01:42:00,707
Speaker 28: is the whole package as a bowler. And yeah, he's very,

1916
01:42:00,747 --> 01:42:02,387
Speaker 28: very difficult to face.

1917
01:42:02,587 --> 01:42:05,267
Speaker 2: To the batting, you reckon that beginnings is coming for

1918
01:42:05,307 --> 01:42:07,707
Speaker 2: you in this series, maybe even tonight in your hometown.

1919
01:42:08,947 --> 01:42:10,227
Speaker 27: Yeah, I hope so, Ponty.

1920
01:42:10,267 --> 01:42:13,627
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's T twenty cricket is sort of as it

1921
01:42:13,667 --> 01:42:15,547
Speaker 28: can be a little bit of a lottery sometimes and

1922
01:42:16,267 --> 01:42:18,347
Speaker 28: I'm hoping that that I might get a little bit

1923
01:42:18,387 --> 01:42:21,387
Speaker 28: of luck that goes my way and try and put

1924
01:42:21,427 --> 01:42:23,307
Speaker 28: on a bit of an entertaining performance for crowd.

1925
01:42:23,307 --> 01:42:26,227
Speaker 27: But yeah, like it's just crickets.

1926
01:42:25,787 --> 01:42:28,067
Speaker 28: Sort of about riding those ebbs and flows, and you

1927
01:42:28,147 --> 01:42:29,787
Speaker 28: have bad days and you have good days, and it's

1928
01:42:29,787 --> 01:42:32,427
Speaker 28: sort of just about trying to be calm through through

1929
01:42:32,427 --> 01:42:32,707
Speaker 28: the more.

1930
01:42:32,787 --> 01:42:35,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been really curious about the balance you

1931
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:38,627
Speaker 2: try and strike in T twenty between aggression but also

1932
01:42:39,187 --> 01:42:41,267
Speaker 2: playing smart cricket. I mean, you don't have much time

1933
01:42:41,267 --> 01:42:44,227
Speaker 2: to mess about. Do you have you changed your approach

1934
01:42:44,667 --> 01:42:47,187
Speaker 2: you know to T twenty batting, you know, over your

1935
01:42:47,227 --> 01:42:48,907
Speaker 2: time playing this format of the game.

1936
01:42:50,227 --> 01:42:50,427
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1937
01:42:50,467 --> 01:42:53,507
Speaker 28: I think one thing that has been really important for

1938
01:42:53,587 --> 01:42:55,587
Speaker 28: T twenty cricket and trying to find an element of

1939
01:42:55,587 --> 01:42:59,507
Speaker 28: consistency with it is, you know, we talk a lot

1940
01:42:59,507 --> 01:43:02,547
Speaker 28: about in the Black Caps about adapting to conditions and

1941
01:43:03,107 --> 01:43:05,027
Speaker 28: whether the wicked is flat, and what I mean by

1942
01:43:05,027 --> 01:43:07,827
Speaker 28: flat is not you know, not nipping off the scene

1943
01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:10,627
Speaker 28: too much or or not or a very even sort

1944
01:43:10,667 --> 01:43:13,507
Speaker 28: of pace and bounce on the surface. Then you know,

1945
01:43:13,587 --> 01:43:15,307
Speaker 28: then as far as I'm concerned, that's a green light

1946
01:43:15,427 --> 01:43:19,307
Speaker 28: to try and really really get after the game. But

1947
01:43:19,387 --> 01:43:21,307
Speaker 28: on the other hand, if it's if it's a little

1948
01:43:21,347 --> 01:43:23,867
Speaker 28: bit spongy or the balls not quite coming onto the

1949
01:43:23,907 --> 01:43:26,547
Speaker 28: bat the way you'd like it, then that's about adjusting

1950
01:43:26,587 --> 01:43:32,667
Speaker 28: and putting away certain shots and adapting your game that's

1951
01:43:32,867 --> 01:43:35,667
Speaker 28: suitable on that surface. So I think that's something I'm

1952
01:43:35,707 --> 01:43:37,587
Speaker 28: learning and trying to develop a little bit more as

1953
01:43:37,587 --> 01:43:40,787
Speaker 28: I continue to play, hopefully. But yeah, that's sort of

1954
01:43:40,867 --> 01:43:42,947
Speaker 28: one of the main things I would I'd say in

1955
01:43:43,067 --> 01:43:44,987
Speaker 28: this in this TEA twenty game, when you when you're

1956
01:43:44,987 --> 01:43:47,627
Speaker 28: playing on such different wickets all the time as trying

1957
01:43:47,627 --> 01:43:49,427
Speaker 28: to adjust it accordingly.

1958
01:43:49,307 --> 01:43:51,547
Speaker 2: You've had twenty seven games of T twenty cricket for

1959
01:43:51,587 --> 01:43:53,547
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Now do you feel a bit more established,

1960
01:43:53,907 --> 01:43:56,387
Speaker 2: a bit more comfortable in the environment now than perhaps

1961
01:43:56,427 --> 01:43:58,107
Speaker 2: you did when you first came into the Black Caps

1962
01:43:58,147 --> 01:43:58,827
Speaker 2: couple of years ago.

1963
01:43:59,947 --> 01:44:02,787
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean, this is it definitely a I'm trying

1964
01:44:02,787 --> 01:44:05,707
Speaker 28: to bank as many you know, all these all these

1965
01:44:05,707 --> 01:44:08,347
Speaker 28: great experience is that I'm privileged enough to have, you know,

1966
01:44:08,387 --> 01:44:11,547
Speaker 28: playing in Pakistan and Intri Lanka at home, all these

1967
01:44:11,627 --> 01:44:14,787
Speaker 28: kinds of places sort of develop you as a cricketer

1968
01:44:15,027 --> 01:44:18,267
Speaker 28: and as a person. So I definitely don't. I don't

1969
01:44:18,307 --> 01:44:22,067
Speaker 28: feel comfortable. We never get comfortable otherwise, otherwise you take

1970
01:44:22,067 --> 01:44:24,267
Speaker 28: things too cheap and take things for granted, which I

1971
01:44:24,307 --> 01:44:25,147
Speaker 28: definitely don't do.

1972
01:44:26,707 --> 01:44:27,827
Speaker 27: But yeah, like I love.

1973
01:44:27,747 --> 01:44:30,347
Speaker 28: Playing for New Zealand. It's it's such a fantastic privilege

1974
01:44:30,347 --> 01:44:34,267
Speaker 28: and I'm just constantly pinching myself and sort of just

1975
01:44:34,307 --> 01:44:35,907
Speaker 28: always hungry to play more, you know.

1976
01:44:36,027 --> 01:44:37,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be a good depth as well

1977
01:44:37,547 --> 01:44:39,147
Speaker 2: on the black apps in a lot of positions at

1978
01:44:39,147 --> 01:44:41,827
Speaker 2: the moment, but particularly with the batting depth. Does it

1979
01:44:41,867 --> 01:44:44,827
Speaker 2: feel quite quite competitive, you know, in a healthy way

1980
01:44:44,867 --> 01:44:47,347
Speaker 2: for batting spots and the white ball sides at the moment.

1981
01:44:48,227 --> 01:44:49,347
Speaker 27: Yeah, yeah it does.

1982
01:44:49,467 --> 01:44:52,627
Speaker 28: And I mean everyone talks about competitiveness for spots is

1983
01:44:52,667 --> 01:44:54,707
Speaker 28: a really good thing, and I'm no different. I think,

1984
01:44:54,747 --> 01:44:58,187
Speaker 28: you know, we're constantly pushing each other to evolve and

1985
01:44:57,827 --> 01:45:00,987
Speaker 28: to think differently about the game and to think critically

1986
01:45:01,027 --> 01:45:04,227
Speaker 28: about how you're going and what options and things that

1987
01:45:04,227 --> 01:45:06,987
Speaker 28: you're taking. So no, I think it's a fair fantastic thing.

1988
01:45:07,067 --> 01:45:10,067
Speaker 28: And and the environment we have at the black Caps

1989
01:45:10,107 --> 01:45:12,667
Speaker 28: is absolutely fantastic. You've got a lot of older guys

1990
01:45:12,707 --> 01:45:16,947
Speaker 28: who are who have a huge depth of knowledge and

1991
01:45:17,347 --> 01:45:20,267
Speaker 28: a huge willingness to pass that, pass that down the ranks.

1992
01:45:20,267 --> 01:45:23,227
Speaker 28: So it's a fantastic environment to be a part of

1993
01:45:23,307 --> 01:45:24,707
Speaker 28: and accelerates you learning.

1994
01:45:25,747 --> 01:45:27,427
Speaker 27: Yeah, so's it's great.

1995
01:45:27,747 --> 01:45:30,187
Speaker 2: Is this your first international at the stadium? I don't

1996
01:45:30,227 --> 01:45:32,387
Speaker 2: think you've played for the black Caps at the stadium,

1997
01:45:32,387 --> 01:45:33,707
Speaker 2: have you?

1998
01:45:33,747 --> 01:45:36,667
Speaker 27: No, I haven't. I've run the drinks a couple of times, and.

1999
01:45:36,747 --> 01:45:38,187
Speaker 2: I'm glad I brought it up. Yeah that's great.

2000
01:45:38,547 --> 01:45:39,867
Speaker 27: Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's good.

2001
01:45:40,027 --> 01:45:43,147
Speaker 28: So I've been anticipating this moment for a long time, Piney.

2002
01:45:43,187 --> 01:45:45,787
Speaker 28: To be honest, I'm I'm really excited to get in

2003
01:45:46,507 --> 01:45:50,867
Speaker 28: the swirling Caketon and and get under a few high balls.

2004
01:45:50,907 --> 01:45:53,587
Speaker 27: So no, it'll be It'll be good. On I can't wait.

2005
01:45:53,907 --> 01:45:56,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't wait either. The series has been excellent

2006
01:45:56,667 --> 01:45:58,627
Speaker 2: to watch it It's Wellington tonight. Look forward to seeing

2007
01:45:58,667 --> 01:46:00,787
Speaker 2: how Game four plays out. There's always some thanks for

2008
01:46:00,827 --> 01:46:02,707
Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat mate, really appreciate it.

2009
01:46:02,867 --> 01:46:04,307
Speaker 27: No, thanks very much, pinty cheers.

2010
01:46:04,347 --> 01:46:06,667
Speaker 2: No good on you, mate, Tim Robinson. There more a

2011
01:46:06,667 --> 01:46:09,787
Speaker 2: lot of fun to chat to his first international game

2012
01:46:10,467 --> 01:46:13,827
Speaker 2: in his hometown. Tonight seven fifteen is when that game

2013
01:46:13,907 --> 01:46:16,307
Speaker 2: gets underway. Jimmy Neisham, as you might have heard in

2014
01:46:16,347 --> 01:46:19,267
Speaker 2: our sports news, is going to become the first non cracked,

2015
01:46:19,547 --> 01:46:24,307
Speaker 2: non contracted New Zealand cricket captain, the first non contracted

2016
01:46:24,307 --> 01:46:28,067
Speaker 2: New Zealand cricket captain and tonight's fourth T twenty. He's

2017
01:46:28,107 --> 01:46:30,507
Speaker 2: going to lead the side. Mitchell Santa is resting. That

2018
01:46:30,587 --> 01:46:32,307
Speaker 2: was always the plan. He was never going to play

2019
01:46:32,347 --> 01:46:36,307
Speaker 2: games four and five. Tom Latham was due to captain

2020
01:46:36,347 --> 01:46:38,027
Speaker 2: the side in games war and five, but he was

2021
01:46:38,067 --> 01:46:40,627
Speaker 2: injured the other night, a thumb injury our thing. So

2022
01:46:40,787 --> 01:46:42,987
Speaker 2: Jimmy Neisham is going to for the first time captain

2023
01:46:43,027 --> 01:46:45,027
Speaker 2: New Zealand. The last time he was contracted was twenty

2024
01:46:45,067 --> 01:46:47,027
Speaker 2: twenty two. But he's played a heck of a lot

2025
01:46:47,027 --> 01:46:49,147
Speaker 2: of T twenty cricket, hasn't he So not a bad

2026
01:46:49,147 --> 01:46:51,587
Speaker 2: guy to have coming in and leading the side Tonight,

2027
01:46:51,667 --> 01:46:54,907
Speaker 2: seven fifteen the women's game underway at two forty five,

2028
01:46:55,027 --> 01:46:57,267
Speaker 2: just checking the New Zealand side, so they've got won

2029
01:46:57,307 --> 01:46:59,267
Speaker 2: the toss. They're going to about first. New Zealand have

2030
01:46:59,347 --> 01:47:02,787
Speaker 2: named the same eleven from the team that won Game

2031
01:47:03,027 --> 01:47:07,347
Speaker 2: three at Eden Park on Friday night, twenty seven Away

2032
01:47:07,347 --> 01:47:10,467
Speaker 2: from Three. I can't remember the last time we chatted

2033
01:47:10,507 --> 01:47:13,467
Speaker 2: the sport of shooting on the show, but are going

2034
01:47:13,547 --> 01:47:15,747
Speaker 2: to do that just a second because one of our

2035
01:47:15,787 --> 01:47:19,307
Speaker 2: best young shooters is off to the World Champs in

2036
01:47:19,387 --> 01:47:22,027
Speaker 2: Germany in the middle of this year. His name is

2037
01:47:22,027 --> 01:47:26,587
Speaker 2: Isaac Jonky's broken many national under twenty one records still

2038
01:47:26,627 --> 01:47:28,627
Speaker 2: just seventeen years old. Going to find out more about

2039
01:47:28,667 --> 01:47:32,707
Speaker 2: his shooting journey and about his hopes and dreams for

2040
01:47:32,747 --> 01:47:34,947
Speaker 2: the World Champs in Germany in June when we come

2041
01:47:34,987 --> 01:47:36,547
Speaker 2: back here on Weekend Sport.

2042
01:47:36,947 --> 01:47:39,307
Speaker 1: Call us how you see it on eight hundred and

2043
01:47:39,307 --> 01:47:43,107
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Chason Pine and GJ.

2044
01:47:43,387 --> 01:47:46,947
Speaker 1: Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks,

2045
01:47:46,947 --> 01:47:47,307
Speaker 1: a'd be.

2046
01:47:47,907 --> 01:47:51,227
Speaker 2: News Talks the'd be Bang on twenty three Away from Three.

2047
01:47:51,507 --> 01:47:54,827
Speaker 2: Isaac Junk is one of New Zealand's most promising young

2048
01:47:55,187 --> 01:47:59,067
Speaker 2: target shooters just seventeen years old, but has already broken

2049
01:47:59,107 --> 01:48:02,467
Speaker 2: many national under twenty one records and has now been

2050
01:48:02,467 --> 01:48:05,987
Speaker 2: selected to represent New Zealand at the International Shooting Sport

2051
01:48:06,027 --> 01:48:11,987
Speaker 2: Feeder Junior World Championships in Germany in June, competing across

2052
01:48:12,187 --> 01:48:15,307
Speaker 2: three rifle disciplines. He has a side set not just

2053
01:48:15,707 --> 01:48:17,987
Speaker 2: on this year's World champs but on a long term

2054
01:48:18,027 --> 01:48:21,707
Speaker 2: goal of making the Olympic Games in Brisbane in twenty

2055
01:48:21,827 --> 01:48:25,387
Speaker 2: thirty two. But like many athletes in minority sports, getting

2056
01:48:25,427 --> 01:48:27,787
Speaker 2: to the start line is as much about funding as

2057
01:48:27,827 --> 01:48:31,507
Speaker 2: it is about performance. Isaac Jean is with us. Isaac,

2058
01:48:31,547 --> 01:48:35,147
Speaker 2: congratulations on everything you've achieved and your selection in the

2059
01:48:35,267 --> 01:48:37,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand team to go to the World Champs. What

2060
01:48:37,307 --> 01:48:41,267
Speaker 2: first attracted you to target shooting and what has kept

2061
01:48:41,307 --> 01:48:42,587
Speaker 2: you so committed to it?

2062
01:48:43,707 --> 01:48:45,907
Speaker 29: Yeah, Curre Jason, thank you very much for having me.

2063
01:48:46,707 --> 01:48:50,467
Speaker 29: So I first started shooting, my oper introduced me to it.

2064
01:48:50,867 --> 01:48:53,187
Speaker 29: He was quite an avid hunter, you know, he had

2065
01:48:53,627 --> 01:48:55,467
Speaker 29: quite a deep love for guns as well that came

2066
01:48:55,467 --> 01:48:58,787
Speaker 29: from his childhood. So you know, I was kind of

2067
01:48:58,787 --> 01:49:01,307
Speaker 29: exposed to guns and hunting and all that sort of

2068
01:49:01,307 --> 01:49:04,587
Speaker 29: thing from quite a young age at about Elaven, I

2069
01:49:04,627 --> 01:49:06,347
Speaker 29: did a bit of googling. I was bored one day

2070
01:49:07,347 --> 01:49:09,907
Speaker 29: and came across a local range, you know, not too

2071
01:49:09,987 --> 01:49:12,907
Speaker 29: far from our house, and they it said there that

2072
01:49:12,947 --> 01:49:15,947
Speaker 29: they had club days on Wednesdays. So, you know, that Wednesday,

2073
01:49:15,947 --> 01:49:17,547
Speaker 29: we went down to the range and you know, it

2074
01:49:17,587 --> 01:49:19,387
Speaker 29: was the furthest thing from what I was used to

2075
01:49:19,427 --> 01:49:21,227
Speaker 29: and what I expected. I walked in and there was

2076
01:49:21,787 --> 01:49:24,627
Speaker 29: you know, big, long, expensive looking guns and everyone was

2077
01:49:24,627 --> 01:49:26,707
Speaker 29: wearing crazy suits. And that was kind of like one

2078
01:49:26,707 --> 01:49:30,787
Speaker 29: of my first x X you know, exposures to sports shooting.

2079
01:49:30,947 --> 01:49:32,947
Speaker 29: And before that point, I didn't know that, you know,

2080
01:49:33,027 --> 01:49:35,427
Speaker 29: shooting could also be a sport, you know.

2081
01:49:35,507 --> 01:49:37,467
Speaker 12: So I shot that day and I absolutely fell in

2082
01:49:37,467 --> 01:49:37,947
Speaker 12: love with it.

2083
01:49:38,027 --> 01:49:39,827
Speaker 29: I fell in love with it from there, and you know,

2084
01:49:39,987 --> 01:49:42,107
Speaker 29: I honestly think I was just too stubborn to give

2085
01:49:42,147 --> 01:49:43,227
Speaker 29: it up until I was decent.

2086
01:49:43,707 --> 01:49:46,747
Speaker 2: That's a very good quality to have, a very good quality.

2087
01:49:46,867 --> 01:49:50,067
Speaker 2: So when did it start occurring to you that actually

2088
01:49:50,067 --> 01:49:52,787
Speaker 2: it wasn't just something that you enjoyed, but something you

2089
01:49:52,827 --> 01:49:54,027
Speaker 2: were actually quite good at.

2090
01:49:56,467 --> 01:49:59,107
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I was actually pretty terrible at it for

2091
01:49:59,147 --> 01:50:00,027
Speaker 12: the first kind of year.

2092
01:50:00,387 --> 01:50:03,147
Speaker 29: Yeah, you know, I was probably the worst in the

2093
01:50:03,147 --> 01:50:05,427
Speaker 29: club by far, I would stretch to the worst in

2094
01:50:05,467 --> 01:50:06,187
Speaker 29: the association.

2095
01:50:06,827 --> 01:50:10,027
Speaker 12: But I honestly just loved doing it. You know, it

2096
01:50:10,067 --> 01:50:10,907
Speaker 12: was quite cool to me.

2097
01:50:11,027 --> 01:50:14,467
Speaker 29: The whole thing was awesome, and you know, I kept

2098
01:50:14,467 --> 01:50:16,227
Speaker 29: at it because I enjoyed it, and you know, I

2099
01:50:16,227 --> 01:50:19,547
Speaker 29: only started to get good at it, you know, quite

2100
01:50:19,547 --> 01:50:21,707
Speaker 29: a lot further down the line, and by that point,

2101
01:50:21,747 --> 01:50:23,627
Speaker 29: you know, I was already so deep in. I was

2102
01:50:23,667 --> 01:50:25,507
Speaker 29: just loving every bit of it, and you know, being

2103
01:50:25,547 --> 01:50:27,547
Speaker 29: good at it was just kind of a bonus.

2104
01:50:27,747 --> 01:50:30,747
Speaker 2: Well, you've obviously become very very good at it. Selected

2105
01:50:30,787 --> 01:50:34,427
Speaker 2: for the Junior World Champs in Germany. What does something

2106
01:50:34,587 --> 01:50:36,427
Speaker 2: like this, this selection mean to you?

2107
01:50:37,547 --> 01:50:39,867
Speaker 12: Oh, it's huge, absolutely huge.

2108
01:50:41,227 --> 01:50:41,427
Speaker 21: You know.

2109
01:50:41,587 --> 01:50:43,667
Speaker 29: After I found out that shooting was a sport, I

2110
01:50:43,747 --> 01:50:46,467
Speaker 29: quickly went home and searched up on YouTube everything I

2111
01:50:46,467 --> 01:50:49,307
Speaker 29: could about shooting. And the first thing I watched, the

2112
01:50:49,347 --> 01:50:51,747
Speaker 29: first final I watched, was one of the replays of

2113
01:50:51,867 --> 01:50:55,867
Speaker 29: the much older Junior World Champs, so one from a

2114
01:50:55,867 --> 01:50:57,827
Speaker 29: few years ago, and I just thought it was so

2115
01:50:57,907 --> 01:51:01,507
Speaker 29: cool to see you know, people my age out there

2116
01:51:01,547 --> 01:51:04,867
Speaker 29: actually in the world shooting on such a huge level

2117
01:51:04,947 --> 01:51:07,267
Speaker 29: and the score is there a pretty singre insane.

2118
01:51:08,427 --> 01:51:10,547
Speaker 12: I wished I could shoot at that level.

2119
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Speaker 29: So to have read that letter in my inbox, in

2120
01:51:14,347 --> 01:51:16,347
Speaker 29: my email telling you that I've been selected to go,

2121
01:51:16,387 --> 01:51:18,907
Speaker 29: there was a huge full circle moment for me, you know,

2122
01:51:18,987 --> 01:51:21,707
Speaker 29: looking up to those junior shooters shooting amazing schools, so

2123
01:51:21,787 --> 01:51:25,107
Speaker 29: now be in that position myself was quite amazing outstanding.

2124
01:51:25,187 --> 01:51:28,067
Speaker 2: So you're in the fifteen meter prone rifle, the fifteen

2125
01:51:28,067 --> 01:51:32,027
Speaker 2: meter three position rifle, and the ten meter air rifle.

2126
01:51:32,067 --> 01:51:34,107
Speaker 2: Can you just explain the three for us?

2127
01:51:34,547 --> 01:51:36,867
Speaker 12: Yeah? Absolutely, So I'll start with fifteen to prone.

2128
01:51:37,987 --> 01:51:41,627
Speaker 29: So in fifteen meter prone, you have a target fifty

2129
01:51:41,707 --> 01:51:44,787
Speaker 29: meters away, and you're shooting with a point two two

2130
01:51:44,787 --> 01:51:47,627
Speaker 29: caliber rifle, so the same caliber as you know every

2131
01:51:47,707 --> 01:51:51,547
Speaker 29: key he's got at some point for the bunnies, you know,

2132
01:51:51,667 --> 01:51:55,347
Speaker 29: much nicer ammunition, but nonetheless the same the same caliber.

2133
01:51:56,427 --> 01:51:59,867
Speaker 29: And you are lying flat on a mat and you

2134
01:51:59,907 --> 01:52:02,027
Speaker 29: have on a jacket and a sling. Your sling is

2135
01:52:02,027 --> 01:52:06,827
Speaker 29: connected to your rifle, and you loop your and around

2136
01:52:06,867 --> 01:52:09,427
Speaker 29: the sling right forward into what we call a handstop,

2137
01:52:09,507 --> 01:52:12,667
Speaker 29: so that basically turns your body kind of into a

2138
01:52:12,667 --> 01:52:15,947
Speaker 29: bit of a rast. So you're fully self supported shooting

2139
01:52:15,987 --> 01:52:20,827
Speaker 29: fifty meter prone in the match is sixty shots. You

2140
01:52:20,867 --> 01:52:25,187
Speaker 29: have fifty meters previously, sorry, fifteen minutes before that to

2141
01:52:25,267 --> 01:52:27,187
Speaker 29: kind of side in and you know, make sure the

2142
01:52:27,307 --> 01:52:29,987
Speaker 29: rifles all good and get yourself all warmed up, and

2143
01:52:30,027 --> 01:52:33,547
Speaker 29: then you have sixty shots within an hour and it's

2144
01:52:33,587 --> 01:52:36,667
Speaker 29: marked two ways. You have something we call hoole scores,

2145
01:52:37,027 --> 01:52:39,107
Speaker 29: which is a ten to nine and eight to seven

2146
01:52:39,107 --> 01:52:41,947
Speaker 29: and six, so your high score and holes.

2147
01:52:41,747 --> 01:52:42,587
Speaker 12: Is six hundred.

2148
01:52:42,627 --> 01:52:45,947
Speaker 29: And then we have something called decimal scoring, which breaks

2149
01:52:46,027 --> 01:52:51,267
Speaker 29: each individual ring into one millimeter rings, so it goes

2150
01:52:51,267 --> 01:52:53,107
Speaker 29: from a ten nine to ten eight, ten seven so

2151
01:52:53,187 --> 01:52:56,267
Speaker 29: on for the rest. So that makes it such a

2152
01:52:56,707 --> 01:52:59,547
Speaker 29: that's what you know, adds that precision element into that sport.

2153
01:52:59,667 --> 01:53:03,547
Speaker 29: Is one millimeter extra of accuracy over a whole match

2154
01:53:03,867 --> 01:53:05,907
Speaker 29: is equal to six points, and you know matches are

2155
01:53:05,907 --> 01:53:08,987
Speaker 29: one by half points, so it's you know, it's really in.

2156
01:53:08,907 --> 01:53:13,947
Speaker 2: There, incredible. So the fifteen meter three position rifle, presumably

2157
01:53:14,267 --> 01:53:16,627
Speaker 2: the shooting distance is the same. What's the difference with

2158
01:53:16,747 --> 01:53:19,267
Speaker 2: the three position rifle discipline.

2159
01:53:20,067 --> 01:53:23,427
Speaker 29: Yeah, so it's the same gun and it's the same distance,

2160
01:53:24,227 --> 01:53:27,027
Speaker 29: but now you add two other positions, so you still

2161
01:53:27,067 --> 01:53:29,347
Speaker 29: have the prone, but now you have a kneeling as well,

2162
01:53:29,387 --> 01:53:33,107
Speaker 29: which is quite similar to prone. You still use the sling, however,

2163
01:53:33,187 --> 01:53:35,107
Speaker 29: now you've got pants and you're you're sitting on a

2164
01:53:35,187 --> 01:53:38,987
Speaker 29: kneeling roll, and you're you're shooting the same target. And

2165
01:53:39,027 --> 01:53:41,547
Speaker 29: then you have the prone, and then you have standing

2166
01:53:41,587 --> 01:53:44,787
Speaker 29: as well, which is you know, a new element and

2167
01:53:44,827 --> 01:53:50,067
Speaker 29: you know sling whatsoever. Everything has to be perfectly in line,

2168
01:53:50,187 --> 01:53:53,227
Speaker 29: perfectly in balance to the ground. And now this one

2169
01:53:53,307 --> 01:53:55,667
Speaker 29: is marked out of holes. So your highest possible score

2170
01:53:55,707 --> 01:53:56,187
Speaker 29: is six.

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01:53:56,067 --> 01:53:57,187
Speaker 27: Hundred, gotcha?

2172
01:53:57,467 --> 01:53:59,427
Speaker 2: And the teen meter air rifle to shooting with an

2173
01:53:59,467 --> 01:54:01,747
Speaker 2: air rifle over teen meters presumably.

2174
01:54:01,747 --> 01:54:04,027
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's it's exactly that.

2175
01:54:04,147 --> 01:54:06,987
Speaker 29: So you're standing again in that stand because with your

2176
01:54:07,067 --> 01:54:09,907
Speaker 29: your boots, your pants and your jacket, and you're shooting

2177
01:54:09,947 --> 01:54:12,907
Speaker 29: over a much smaller distance, and so the target is

2178
01:54:12,947 --> 01:54:16,507
Speaker 29: also much smaller, and it's the tend ring is actually

2179
01:54:16,667 --> 01:54:19,427
Speaker 29: half a millimeters wide. So it's the equivalent of hitting

2180
01:54:19,867 --> 01:54:23,507
Speaker 29: the tip of a pushpin sixty out of sixty times.

2181
01:54:24,147 --> 01:54:27,147
Speaker 2: Wow, incredible. Do you have a favorite of the three?

2182
01:54:28,587 --> 01:54:31,667
Speaker 29: Yeah, to be honest, it rotates quite a lot. You know,

2183
01:54:31,787 --> 01:54:35,307
Speaker 29: one training block I might train air rifle quite a lot. More,

2184
01:54:35,347 --> 01:54:37,307
Speaker 29: for example, and I'll I'll get into a bit of

2185
01:54:37,307 --> 01:54:39,467
Speaker 29: a rhythm for air rifle and I'll start enjoying that

2186
01:54:39,507 --> 01:54:41,307
Speaker 29: one more, you know, at the moment. For the last

2187
01:54:41,307 --> 01:54:43,507
Speaker 29: few months, I've been I've been really enjoying my prone.

2188
01:54:43,547 --> 01:54:46,147
Speaker 29: I'm informed for prone and I'm shooting well. So it's

2189
01:54:46,227 --> 01:54:48,187
Speaker 29: you know, it's always a pleasure to be able to

2190
01:54:48,227 --> 01:54:51,507
Speaker 29: perform to you know, the best of your abilities, and

2191
01:54:51,587 --> 01:54:53,547
Speaker 29: so I'm really enjoying prone at the minute.

2192
01:54:53,667 --> 01:54:55,747
Speaker 2: The margins you've outlined for us there, Isaac, I mean

2193
01:54:55,787 --> 01:54:59,107
Speaker 2: they're so small, aren't they so tiny? And as you're saying,

2194
01:54:59,147 --> 01:55:03,707
Speaker 2: with competitions, you know, decided by half points, how do

2195
01:55:03,747 --> 01:55:06,787
Speaker 2: you how do you handle that mental pressure when you

2196
01:55:06,827 --> 01:55:11,027
Speaker 2: know results can come down to such tiny margins.

2197
01:55:11,827 --> 01:55:14,947
Speaker 29: Oh, you know, it's it's definitely still a learning process.

2198
01:55:15,027 --> 01:55:17,867
Speaker 29: Like I don't think any athlete will ever fully understand

2199
01:55:18,267 --> 01:55:22,467
Speaker 29: how that aspect of competition works. You're always learning in

2200
01:55:22,507 --> 01:55:25,147
Speaker 29: that part. I did quite a lot, quite a lot

2201
01:55:25,147 --> 01:55:27,867
Speaker 29: of learning, especially towards the beginning of my career. When

2202
01:55:27,867 --> 01:55:30,267
Speaker 29: I was younger. I could not handle school pressure at all,

2203
01:55:30,627 --> 01:55:33,667
Speaker 29: you know, I tried everything and music and meditation and

2204
01:55:33,707 --> 01:55:36,547
Speaker 29: box breathing, but I honestly found the best way for

2205
01:55:36,627 --> 01:55:38,787
Speaker 29: me is to completely ignore it. You know, I've put

2206
01:55:38,787 --> 01:55:40,947
Speaker 29: the hours in on the range. I know, I know

2207
01:55:40,987 --> 01:55:44,587
Speaker 29: what I'm doing, you know, the day before do the

2208
01:55:44,627 --> 01:55:47,187
Speaker 29: work I need to stretch, roll, go for a quick

2209
01:55:47,267 --> 01:55:49,107
Speaker 29: run to flush the legs, and just show up on

2210
01:55:49,147 --> 01:55:53,187
Speaker 29: competition day, not you know, giving it any thoughts and

2211
01:55:53,307 --> 01:55:55,387
Speaker 29: just you know, getting on the mound and really letting

2212
01:55:55,387 --> 01:55:59,427
Speaker 29: my subconscious mind take over my shooting.

2213
01:55:59,787 --> 01:56:02,027
Speaker 2: How much time do you typically spend training in a

2214
01:56:02,067 --> 01:56:02,667
Speaker 2: normal week.

2215
01:56:04,267 --> 01:56:08,027
Speaker 29: Yeah, so I do two session on the gun a day,

2216
01:56:08,267 --> 01:56:12,627
Speaker 29: six days a week. I do five runs a week

2217
01:56:12,947 --> 01:56:16,267
Speaker 29: to help with my shooting fitness and my aerobic capacity.

2218
01:56:16,587 --> 01:56:18,507
Speaker 29: And I do quite a lot of mental training as well,

2219
01:56:18,507 --> 01:56:21,107
Speaker 29: so a lot of visualization of you know, the match,

2220
01:56:21,147 --> 01:56:24,027
Speaker 29: of how my position feels, and you know, the emotions

2221
01:56:24,067 --> 01:56:25,547
Speaker 29: that I'm going to go through on the match. And

2222
01:56:25,587 --> 01:56:28,227
Speaker 29: that's that's really crucial, because when you're on that mound,

2223
01:56:28,267 --> 01:56:30,547
Speaker 29: it's you know, it's all happened before, it's nothing new.

2224
01:56:31,427 --> 01:56:33,347
Speaker 29: So you know a lot of training in the week.

2225
01:56:33,787 --> 01:56:36,067
Speaker 2: Have you thought about what you'd like to achieve at

2226
01:56:36,067 --> 01:56:38,707
Speaker 2: the upcoming World Champs? What a good result for you

2227
01:56:39,107 --> 01:56:39,547
Speaker 2: would be.

2228
01:56:41,027 --> 01:56:42,267
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2229
01:56:42,467 --> 01:56:46,587
Speaker 29: I think every athlete should judge the performance they have

2230
01:56:46,747 --> 01:56:48,187
Speaker 29: based on what they gave on the day.

2231
01:56:48,267 --> 01:56:48,427
Speaker 14: You know.

2232
01:56:48,547 --> 01:56:52,187
Speaker 29: I think it's good to set a set benchmarks, but

2233
01:56:52,227 --> 01:56:55,667
Speaker 29: at the end of the day, my biggest goal at

2234
01:56:55,667 --> 01:56:58,627
Speaker 29: the competition and leading up to the competition is to

2235
01:56:58,707 --> 01:57:01,707
Speaker 29: be able to wholeheartedly say that I gave it everything

2236
01:57:01,747 --> 01:57:03,987
Speaker 29: I had, you know, everything I could have while I

2237
01:57:04,027 --> 01:57:07,267
Speaker 29: was training, and then everything I could given it, you

2238
01:57:07,267 --> 01:57:08,907
Speaker 29: know on the mound in Germany as well.

2239
01:57:09,467 --> 01:57:12,947
Speaker 2: Do you have to have quite a strong mentality around

2240
01:57:13,147 --> 01:57:16,707
Speaker 2: you know, in competition as well? For example, your first

2241
01:57:16,747 --> 01:57:20,147
Speaker 2: few shots don't go the way that you would have liked. Obviously,

2242
01:57:20,187 --> 01:57:22,827
Speaker 2: you can't turn back time, you can't change the past.

2243
01:57:23,147 --> 01:57:25,027
Speaker 2: How mentally strong do you have to be to put

2244
01:57:25,027 --> 01:57:27,147
Speaker 2: that behind you and just focus on the next one?

2245
01:57:27,627 --> 01:57:27,827
Speaker 5: Oh?

2246
01:57:28,107 --> 01:57:28,507
Speaker 12: Hugely?

2247
01:57:28,547 --> 01:57:32,307
Speaker 29: Mentally strong, hugely, because you know there's no escaping the score.

2248
01:57:32,347 --> 01:57:34,547
Speaker 29: It flashes up on a screen beside you with the

2249
01:57:34,667 --> 01:57:38,147
Speaker 29: exact number, and you know you have a running total

2250
01:57:38,187 --> 01:57:40,547
Speaker 29: of how well or how terrible you're doing, So you

2251
01:57:40,587 --> 01:57:44,707
Speaker 29: know you can quite easily see and it can be tough.

2252
01:57:44,787 --> 01:57:47,707
Speaker 29: Sometimes it does feel like your work's going down the

2253
01:57:47,747 --> 01:57:49,707
Speaker 29: drain a bit but I think it's really important to

2254
01:57:49,747 --> 01:57:53,267
Speaker 29: kind of stop and you know, reframe your mind. And

2255
01:57:53,307 --> 01:57:55,587
Speaker 29: that's I struggled a lot with that, you know, in

2256
01:57:55,907 --> 01:57:57,987
Speaker 29: my younger years, and I still do.

2257
01:57:58,667 --> 01:58:00,267
Speaker 2: And I guess the other part of this is, as

2258
01:58:00,267 --> 01:58:02,107
Speaker 2: I said at the top, you know, people probably don't

2259
01:58:02,107 --> 01:58:04,707
Speaker 2: realize how expensive a sport this is. Obviously, the travel

2260
01:58:04,747 --> 01:58:06,067
Speaker 2: is a big part of it. You having to raise,

2261
01:58:06,387 --> 01:58:09,147
Speaker 2: as I understand it, close to twenty thousand dollars to

2262
01:58:09,307 --> 01:58:12,747
Speaker 2: compete and prepare. So how challenging is that as a

2263
01:58:12,747 --> 01:58:15,307
Speaker 2: as a young athlete in quite a niche sport.

2264
01:58:16,147 --> 01:58:19,107
Speaker 29: Oh yeah, hugely challenging. I think it's I think it's

2265
01:58:19,107 --> 01:58:23,947
Speaker 29: difficult to raise funds as a young athlete in general.

2266
01:58:24,827 --> 01:58:31,187
Speaker 29: You know, most times you haven't got that international performance

2267
01:58:31,267 --> 01:58:34,907
Speaker 29: benchmark yet, you know, especially if it's your first major competition,

2268
01:58:34,987 --> 01:58:37,947
Speaker 29: you haven't got that fact, those facts that you'll say, look,

2269
01:58:37,947 --> 01:58:41,787
Speaker 29: I've podiumed here, or I've set this this international record

2270
01:58:41,867 --> 01:58:44,507
Speaker 29: or X, Y and z, and so you know, it

2271
01:58:44,547 --> 01:58:47,227
Speaker 29: can be quite difficult to convince you know, companies and

2272
01:58:47,267 --> 01:58:50,827
Speaker 29: people to fund you know, kind of an uncertainty. And

2273
01:58:50,867 --> 01:58:53,707
Speaker 29: I think that's even more so a niche sports, especially shooting.

2274
01:58:53,747 --> 01:58:57,907
Speaker 29: You know, it's it's not a very popular sport to

2275
01:58:57,947 --> 01:59:00,667
Speaker 29: watch in New Zealand, so a lot of people aren't

2276
01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:03,867
Speaker 29: actually aware of, you know, all the intricacies of the sport.

2277
01:59:04,147 --> 01:59:06,747
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure listening to you people have sort of

2278
01:59:06,827 --> 01:59:09,307
Speaker 2: had their ears pricked up because you represent yourself and

2279
01:59:09,347 --> 01:59:12,147
Speaker 2: your sport very well. Is it can can people get

2280
01:59:12,187 --> 01:59:14,187
Speaker 2: in touch or can they find out more about how

2281
01:59:14,227 --> 01:59:15,947
Speaker 2: they might be able to support you in some way?

2282
01:59:16,667 --> 01:59:16,827
Speaker 27: Oh?

2283
01:59:16,907 --> 01:59:17,787
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely so.

2284
01:59:17,907 --> 01:59:21,347
Speaker 29: I have a give a little page where you know

2285
01:59:21,427 --> 01:59:24,027
Speaker 29: you can you can help me out. Any donation bigger

2286
01:59:24,067 --> 01:59:30,867
Speaker 29: or small is huge to help me achieve my goals.

2287
01:59:30,987 --> 01:59:31,947
Speaker 12: Absolutely massive.

2288
01:59:33,027 --> 01:59:35,867
Speaker 29: And I have an email as well, a sports email

2289
01:59:35,907 --> 01:59:39,907
Speaker 29: that can contact so that's junk Isaac at gmail dot com,

2290
01:59:40,027 --> 01:59:42,747
Speaker 29: j U N C. I S A A C at

2291
01:59:42,747 --> 01:59:47,667
Speaker 29: gmail dot com. Yeah, any any help whatsoever is massive.

2292
01:59:47,787 --> 01:59:50,787
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there'll be people who can and will

2293
01:59:50,827 --> 01:59:52,707
Speaker 2: want to help you out. I just want to ask

2294
01:59:52,707 --> 01:59:55,947
Speaker 2: you as well about traveling with firearms, because most of us,

2295
01:59:55,987 --> 01:59:57,667
Speaker 2: when we travel on a plane, they say are you

2296
01:59:57,707 --> 01:59:59,907
Speaker 2: carrying any of this? We just take no, you have

2297
01:59:59,987 --> 02:00:02,867
Speaker 2: to take yes. I assume. Is is there an extra

2298
02:00:02,947 --> 02:00:06,267
Speaker 2: layer of complication when you're traveling with firearms.

2299
02:00:06,707 --> 02:00:08,827
Speaker 12: It's it's like an onion. There's an extra couple of

2300
02:00:08,907 --> 02:00:09,627
Speaker 12: hundred players.

2301
02:00:10,267 --> 02:00:14,667
Speaker 2: I love it, love it. Oh man, So what paperwork

2302
02:00:14,707 --> 02:00:15,267
Speaker 2: that sort of thing.

2303
02:00:15,787 --> 02:00:19,187
Speaker 29: Yeah, so the process starts months out from h the

2304
02:00:19,387 --> 02:00:21,827
Speaker 29: even thinking about getting on a plane. So you know,

2305
02:00:22,107 --> 02:00:24,147
Speaker 29: by the time you step in the airport, you've already

2306
02:00:24,187 --> 02:00:27,507
Speaker 29: been filling out sheets of paper and telling this person

2307
02:00:27,787 --> 02:00:30,387
Speaker 29: you're mentally saying in that person you're mentally saying for

2308
02:00:30,427 --> 02:00:35,587
Speaker 29: the past three months. So you know, you have forms

2309
02:00:35,747 --> 02:00:38,707
Speaker 29: import export forms, and you're only allowed a certain amount

2310
02:00:38,707 --> 02:00:42,147
Speaker 29: of weights of ammunition and yeah, and that's that's quite

2311
02:00:42,187 --> 02:00:44,987
Speaker 29: difficult when you do multiple disciplines because you have multiple

2312
02:00:45,107 --> 02:00:47,187
Speaker 29: rifles and multiple different types of ammunition.

2313
02:00:47,307 --> 02:00:50,627
Speaker 12: So you know that adds a little extra paperwork.

2314
02:00:50,947 --> 02:00:53,107
Speaker 2: Bit I bit I bet. And just to look ahead

2315
02:00:53,147 --> 02:00:55,627
Speaker 2: to finish, you've set your sights on the twenty thirty

2316
02:00:55,667 --> 02:00:59,107
Speaker 2: two Olympic Games and Brisbane. How motivating is it for

2317
02:00:59,147 --> 02:01:00,867
Speaker 2: you to have a long term goal like that?

2318
02:01:01,947 --> 02:01:07,347
Speaker 29: Yeah, honestly super motivating, because you know, I look back

2319
02:01:07,427 --> 02:01:10,267
Speaker 29: on the past few training box that I've had for

2320
02:01:10,307 --> 02:01:13,427
Speaker 29: the last year, and you know, just being able to

2321
02:01:13,467 --> 02:01:16,707
Speaker 29: see the improvement that I've had in such a short time.

2322
02:01:17,227 --> 02:01:20,027
Speaker 29: You know, I honestly am so excited. I can't wait

2323
02:01:20,067 --> 02:01:22,107
Speaker 29: to see what I'll be able to pull off for

2324
02:01:22,187 --> 02:01:25,307
Speaker 29: the rest of this you know selection, and then obviously

2325
02:01:25,347 --> 02:01:26,827
Speaker 29: go into the next Olympic cycle.

2326
02:01:27,027 --> 02:01:30,507
Speaker 12: I can't wait to unlock my full potential.

2327
02:01:31,187 --> 02:01:33,107
Speaker 2: It's been a real pleasure chatting to you, Isaac. All

2328
02:01:33,147 --> 02:01:36,027
Speaker 2: the best with what lies ahead. Congratulations on what you've

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Speaker 2: achieved up till now. We'll get your details up on

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Speaker 2: our social media pages so people can get in touch

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Speaker 2: if they are able to. But made all the best

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Speaker 2: for what sounds like a very exciting time ahead for you,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for taking the time to chat to us.

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Speaker 12: Perfect Thank you very much, Jason.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing, No, it was amazing chatting to you Isaac.

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, Isaac Shunk one of our top young target shooters.

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Speaker 2: As I say, we'll get all his details up on

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Speaker 2: our Facebook page except for so you can get in

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Speaker 2: touch perhaps if you're able to help him out on

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Speaker 2: his journey to the World Championships. In In June nine

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Speaker 2: to three News talks heedb.

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Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your home

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Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Heb coming up five to three. That's just about us

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Speaker 2: updating you from Henry Stadium and the women's t twenty

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Speaker 2: International White Funds against South Africa. South Africa and the

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Speaker 2: third over having won the toss and elected to bat first,

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Speaker 2: are seventeen without loss, seventeen without loss in the third over,

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Speaker 2: so nice solid start for the women. The South African

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Speaker 2: Women's site against our White funds. The men's came to

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Speaker 2: follow a course at seven fifteen. Speaking of following, Tim

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Speaker 2: Beverage to follow on News Talk SeeDB after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: He'll have the Sunday edition of the Weekend Collective for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening and it's been great fun as

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Speaker 2: always bringing the show to you. Huge thanks to Any

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Speaker 2: McDonnell for pulling the whole thing together. Thanks mate. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the rest of your afternoon. I hope you enjoy yours too.

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Speaker 2: Song to take us out, Well, it's all about little warriors,

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Speaker 2: isn't it our year? Who knows? Could be? Just enjoy

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Speaker 2: the ride. See you on Sports Talk tomorrow night Fie for.

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Speaker 7: Now, I love you, I love you.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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Speaker 1: to news Talks it B weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio