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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this just in generality. Is okay.

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Speaker 1: There is a two hundred year old condom which is

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Speaker 1: going on display at a museum in Amsterdam. The thing

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Speaker 1: is made of a sheep's appendix. It's believed to date

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Speaker 1: all the way back to eighteen thirty and it's decorated

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Speaker 1: with some erotic images and may have been a souvenir

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you it is worth a little Google

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Speaker 1: search later just to have a look at that, because look,

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Speaker 1: you know, two hundred years some science hasn't moved on

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Speaker 1: a lot, is all I'm going to say. Maybe don't

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Speaker 1: Google it off your work computer or not. Don't Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't do it at work. Don't do it in front

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Speaker 1: of the kids, because then you have to explain a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. But later on, just have a little

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Speaker 1: peek at that, and it's not going to it's not

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Speaker 1: going to like if you're help, I never mind. I'm

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Speaker 1: just going do it. Do it by yourself. Dan Mitchard's

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Speaker 1: a US correspondence with you now, Dan Allo.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh wow, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're googling it. Some technology doesn't change.

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Speaker 2: Does it.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it wild that they went to the effort of

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Speaker 3: Look at that quite a detail thing.

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Speaker 1: Like if they put a picture on one in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, I'd be wildly impressed. But to do that

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Speaker 3: That is that is good?

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Speaker 1: On then yeah, go and have a look at that there,

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Speaker 1: Dan's Dean's with ye appetite for it? Dan elon Mass

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Boy Ah? I mean yeah, I was kind of surprised

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Speaker 2: he just said, I'm sorry, I just can't stand this

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Speaker 2: anymore about the the the President's you know, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: the worldwide is one big, beautiful bill, and he says

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Speaker 2: it's outrageous, it's massive, it's pork filled, and it's just

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Speaker 2: it's disgusting. But what's interesting, I think is that this

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Speaker 3: By President Trump kind of undermines Doge.

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Speaker 2: And then the White House is coming off and saying, well, hey,

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Speaker 2: Musk is ron to say this, and the President was

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Speaker 2: aware of this, and Elon knew what this was going

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Speaker 2: But it's just this relationship, like we talked about last week,

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Speaker 2: is just kind of deteriorating, I think in front of

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Speaker 1: Is it deteriorating as he goes on, or like the

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Speaker 1: more he says, is it getting worse and worse or

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Speaker 1: is it already bad and he's just letting us see

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Speaker 2: I think he's letting us see it now. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why he's letting us see it.

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Speaker 1: Lest you see it, Dan, because I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: conspiratorial on it. But the alignment that Elon Musk has

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk's alignment with the White House has obviously resulted

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Speaker 1: well for his business stealings.

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Speaker 1: Is he trying to distance himself from Donald Trump in

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Speaker 2: is it a little too late. It's hard to say

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Speaker 2: And then they came up with this new one that

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Speaker 2: we have to show our teeth. And it didn't have

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Speaker 2: being hung in all our federal buildings, and it's on

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Speaker 2: the White House's website too. And I don't think we've

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy or so. But yeah, it's still it's it's

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Speaker 2: a better picture. It's just not flattering, and it's right

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Speaker 1: It's still I would describe it as. The problem with

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Speaker 1: just quite a strange look. The problem with this one

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Speaker 1: Both of them look menacing, don't they.

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Speaker 2: There's a portion of his his face that's covered up

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is intentional.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean that camera has caught in great detail what

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Speaker 3: It is it is. At first I was looking at

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this is a painting, This isn't a picture,

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Speaker 2: And then I look closer. This is a picture, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot going on there. Hey, Dan, really

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Speaker 1: quickly before I let you go, just explain to me

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Speaker 1: quickly that Luigi Mangioni is due to here in court.

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Speaker 1: But why would he be in a bulletproof fist.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're just doing just because of the

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Speaker 3: So they're protecting him.

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Speaker 2: But his lawyers are saying, well, if a guy walks

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Speaker 2: wearing prison garb on it, that's going to kind of

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Speaker 2: they take it off? And back in February, the judge said, okay,

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Speaker 2: we don't need to have the handcuffs on, and then

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Speaker 2: the lawyers got together for a conversation and they said, well,

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Speaker 2: for security reasons, maybe it'd be better if this guy

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Speaker 2: was cuffed for the time being.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can sort of see the arguments both ways. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much appreciated. Dan Mitchison, US correspondent.

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