1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Together do for sel on this he Koy. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: I've actually been surprised at the level of anger that 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: I've heard expressed about the thing and about the fact 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: that it crossed the Harbor Bridge today, and I don't 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: think it's a good thing for the particular cause, and 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: the particular cause, of course, is to oppose the Treaty 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Principles Bill. 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Yesterday, completely out of the blue, I got. 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: An email from a mum that I know complaining about 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: the impact it we'll have on kids trying to get 11 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: to the NCEA exams on time. Today I bumped into 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: someone furious, just absolutely furious about the timing, completely unexpected. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Didn't expect it from this person at all. Furious about 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: the timing because it was it was crossing the Harbor 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Bridge at rush hour. And then someone in my family 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: is raging about it as well on the regular. Now, 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: to be fair to these people, this is quite understandable 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: anger because basically what that cross at is that this 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: protest feels like it is designed to cause disruption. I mean, 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: there's always the outside chance that the organizers just whoops, 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: just plan something for morning traffic. I doubt that very much. 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: That it was an accident that these people have generally 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: proved to be reasonably smart in what they do. More 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: likely it's designed to cause disruption, and so what happened 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: is to facilitate the hecoy. Today authorities had to close 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: two lanes on. 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: The Harbor Bridge and our biggest city from eight in 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: the morning, peak morning traffic time. Now, that will have 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: messed up the start of the day for thousands of 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: people coming in from the North Shore. If these guys 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: doing the he coy were decent to the people of Auckland, 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, people just trying to do their jobs, largely 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: uninvolved in politics, trying to do the jobs, trying to 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: get the kids to school, they would have shifted their 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: walk time over the Harbor Bridge back by a couple 36 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: of hours, maybe aimed a little closer to midday, by 37 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: which time most people will already be in the office 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: or you know, have their kids at the NCAA exams 39 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: and won't have their day messed around. It's not as 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: if the hecoy would lose media attention because it caused 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: less disruption, would it. 42 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they are already. 43 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: All over all of the online news feeds are being 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: covered by radio shows like ours today that will be 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: all over the TV news for multiple stories undoubtedly tonight, 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: because the protest is big, and because it is about 47 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: a very contentious issue, being the Treaty Principals Bill, these 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: guys did not have to muck auckland Is around to 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: get the kind of coverage that they probably want to 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: get now. Ultimately, I don't think this is a smart 51 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: move from them, just like I don't think it's a 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: smart move to have gang members joining the he coy 53 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: with their patches on display just days out from the 54 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: gang patch band, which indicates that people hate seeing these 55 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: patches there. They are just wandering down with the he Coy. 56 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: All this is going to do is frustrate Middle New 57 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Zealand and make Middle New Zealand more sympathetic to the 58 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: other side, because that is how politics works nowadays. We 59 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: pick sides, we don't like that side, we go to 60 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: the other side. That's generally how it works. So all 61 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: they've done is have just sent people to the other side. 62 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: That's ultimately an own goal, because the only hope that 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: David Seymour has for his bill at the moment is 64 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: that it becomes so popular that it has to survive, 65 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: that it has to be rescued, that the Nats change 66 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: their mind on killing it, and this he coy I 67 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: reckon will not have hurt his chances at all. So 68 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: listen to people planning future protests. Try to not cause 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: disruption on purpose, because that way the rest of us 70 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: are more likely to be sympathetic to your cause. 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