1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,507 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,547 Speaker 1: from NEWSTALKSB. 3 00:00:12,907 --> 00:00:16,387 Speaker 2: Seven forty five, Saturday evening in Chicago. How's it looking, 4 00:00:16,507 --> 00:00:19,867 Speaker 2: James mcconi, Thanks for joining us. 5 00:00:19,947 --> 00:00:21,307 Speaker 3: It's nippi in Chicago. 6 00:00:21,387 --> 00:00:23,347 Speaker 4: I think the All Blacks are about to fly out 7 00:00:23,387 --> 00:00:25,347 Speaker 4: straight away, so they're not even going to enjoy the 8 00:00:25,507 --> 00:00:30,027 Speaker 4: nights here where they definitely deserve to enjoy a few 9 00:00:30,227 --> 00:00:34,867 Speaker 4: celebratory beverages because it was it was actually a pretty 10 00:00:34,867 --> 00:00:37,027 Speaker 4: good performance given that I think the ref was a 11 00:00:37,027 --> 00:00:40,827 Speaker 4: little bit dodgy and the first half was very stop start, 12 00:00:41,027 --> 00:00:43,667 Speaker 4: but hayy was the fourth quarter with the All Blacks dominated. 13 00:00:43,707 --> 00:00:45,547 Speaker 3: It's what they've wandered for a long time. 14 00:00:45,907 --> 00:00:48,547 Speaker 2: Yep, that's the point we've been We've been saying over 15 00:00:48,587 --> 00:00:50,827 Speaker 2: and over back here, James. Good to know we're aligned 16 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:51,107 Speaker 2: on this. 17 00:00:51,227 --> 00:00:51,707 Speaker 3: But you're right. 18 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:54,467 Speaker 2: The last twenty minutes was what we used to expect 19 00:00:54,507 --> 00:00:57,147 Speaker 2: and love about the All Blacks. You know, a last 20 00:00:57,187 --> 00:01:01,587 Speaker 2: quarter performance that sealed Test match victories. What's what Soldier 21 00:01:01,627 --> 00:01:02,147 Speaker 2: Field like? 22 00:01:02,227 --> 00:01:06,027 Speaker 4: By the way, it's kind of it's weird because it's 23 00:01:06,027 --> 00:01:08,627 Speaker 4: not really covered stands. As you can see, they just 24 00:01:08,627 --> 00:01:11,387 Speaker 4: sort of go up it's just almost a sheer drop 25 00:01:11,387 --> 00:01:13,747 Speaker 4: you wouldn't want to sort of like fall backwards. It's 26 00:01:13,827 --> 00:01:16,667 Speaker 4: like a one of those a Mayan sacrifice, you know, 27 00:01:16,787 --> 00:01:20,467 Speaker 4: and one of those pyramids from Apocalypto. Great movie by 28 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:25,227 Speaker 4: the wall Mel Gibson five stars, but I I think 29 00:01:25,307 --> 00:01:29,027 Speaker 4: or he was a director. But really the atmosphere was 30 00:01:29,587 --> 00:01:32,947 Speaker 4: it was very pro Irish and then when the All 31 00:01:32,987 --> 00:01:36,467 Speaker 4: Blacks were struggling, you can actually sense the Ireland. The 32 00:01:36,507 --> 00:01:38,987 Speaker 4: Irish team were just hanging out in there and the 33 00:01:38,987 --> 00:01:42,107 Speaker 4: All Blacks really you would have noticed this, we're giving 34 00:01:42,147 --> 00:01:43,227 Speaker 4: them too many chances. 35 00:01:43,267 --> 00:01:45,387 Speaker 3: There were tries that went begging and. 36 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:49,587 Speaker 4: If they lose this test, they'll hate the video analysis 37 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:53,187 Speaker 4: because they left a few out there. But it was 38 00:01:53,227 --> 00:01:56,067 Speaker 4: more that the young ones who are starting to become 39 00:01:56,267 --> 00:01:59,947 Speaker 4: too mature as players. I was really happy for Peter Archy, 40 00:02:00,187 --> 00:02:04,147 Speaker 4: for Camroy Guard and Wallace Atisi coming on. 41 00:02:04,747 --> 00:02:07,787 Speaker 3: Just you know Peter Larkar. It's a tough it's a 42 00:02:07,787 --> 00:02:10,267 Speaker 3: tough gig that All Blacks number eight shirt. 43 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:14,267 Speaker 4: But yeah, he's he's definitely, he's definitely playing well. 44 00:02:14,787 --> 00:02:17,267 Speaker 2: I know you're a big Simon Parker fan, but what 45 00:02:17,387 --> 00:02:21,907 Speaker 2: about t t Savia Lakeye six seven eight. 46 00:02:23,267 --> 00:02:25,827 Speaker 3: Well, they're all they're not massive. You know, they're all 47 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:26,827 Speaker 3: shorter than New Pony. 48 00:02:26,907 --> 00:02:29,307 Speaker 4: And I know that you're you know, you're you're like 49 00:02:29,387 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 4: High Tower from Police Academy again, great movie. 50 00:02:33,307 --> 00:02:36,387 Speaker 3: Five stars. But the thing is I think that really, 51 00:02:36,867 --> 00:02:38,307 Speaker 3: you know, Simon Parker. 52 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:41,467 Speaker 4: Is in there because he is a big body, that 53 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:45,747 Speaker 4: that's a really solid lineout option. But games are about 54 00:02:45,787 --> 00:02:48,227 Speaker 4: finishers now, and that's what teams actually call their bench, 55 00:02:48,427 --> 00:02:51,187 Speaker 4: don't they, you know, the finishers, And I think you 56 00:02:51,747 --> 00:02:53,827 Speaker 4: need some of those players to come on when the 57 00:02:53,947 --> 00:02:58,067 Speaker 4: when the gaps appear. I actually think there are more 58 00:02:58,107 --> 00:03:01,467 Speaker 4: gaps even in the first half now, and and Razor 59 00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:04,667 Speaker 4: will be We'll be thinking of ways to exploit them 60 00:03:04,707 --> 00:03:09,827 Speaker 4: because you know, just even Damien McKenzie, a player like 61 00:03:09,907 --> 00:03:13,387 Speaker 4: him as perfect for when the game breaks up. So 62 00:03:14,147 --> 00:03:17,387 Speaker 4: as much as there's lots of DMAK fans out there, 63 00:03:17,587 --> 00:03:19,627 Speaker 4: it actually works him being off the bench. 64 00:03:19,907 --> 00:03:23,147 Speaker 3: So Tz yes, like he could be. 65 00:03:23,227 --> 00:03:25,507 Speaker 4: He looks like he's getting back to his best first 66 00:03:25,507 --> 00:03:26,227 Speaker 4: all back try. 67 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:28,787 Speaker 3: But I mean it worked for them. 68 00:03:29,347 --> 00:03:31,307 Speaker 4: If they actually got stuff right in the first half, 69 00:03:31,787 --> 00:03:33,347 Speaker 4: they should have been well in the league. 70 00:03:33,427 --> 00:03:36,787 Speaker 2: I thought as Chicago's I mean it's a big city. 71 00:03:36,787 --> 00:03:40,067 Speaker 2: What's got I think the city itself about two point 72 00:03:40,107 --> 00:03:43,907 Speaker 2: seven million, the wider metropolitan area nine and a half million. 73 00:03:45,227 --> 00:03:45,547 Speaker 1: Was there? 74 00:03:45,627 --> 00:03:49,627 Speaker 2: Like advertising was there? Was it obvious that there was 75 00:03:49,627 --> 00:03:52,027 Speaker 2: an All Blacks Island test match going on, you know 76 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:53,147 Speaker 2: in the lead up to the game? 77 00:03:54,147 --> 00:03:54,747 Speaker 3: Not really. 78 00:03:54,827 --> 00:03:57,507 Speaker 4: And I even had a chet to David kirk good 79 00:03:57,507 --> 00:04:00,467 Speaker 4: old Kirky after the game, and I said, you know, 80 00:04:01,547 --> 00:04:04,507 Speaker 4: I think it's about time that that New Zealand rugby 81 00:04:04,867 --> 00:04:08,867 Speaker 4: and even Sky reached out to ESPN and said, look, 82 00:04:08,907 --> 00:04:11,467 Speaker 4: this is one of our big products and why not. 83 00:04:12,907 --> 00:04:15,027 Speaker 3: Why not do something with us? Why not collab? 84 00:04:15,107 --> 00:04:17,107 Speaker 4: Because I think it was a little bit of a 85 00:04:17,427 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 4: too much of a willcap kept secret. 86 00:04:20,787 --> 00:04:21,667 Speaker 3: It was all. 87 00:04:21,507 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 4: Expats and rugby fans from around America coming, you know, 88 00:04:26,267 --> 00:04:30,147 Speaker 4: gathering really like a pilgrimage, but from the city you 89 00:04:30,187 --> 00:04:34,387 Speaker 4: couldn't really tell, not until today catching the the L 90 00:04:34,427 --> 00:04:37,347 Speaker 4: train that's the l as they call it, and going 91 00:04:37,387 --> 00:04:39,707 Speaker 4: to the game, could you actually see, Okay, this is 92 00:04:40,707 --> 00:04:43,507 Speaker 4: something big happening. But yeah, that's something that's to work on. 93 00:04:43,627 --> 00:04:45,747 Speaker 4: I think it's the if you really want to push 94 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:48,707 Speaker 4: the brand, you should be trying to get it on 95 00:04:48,867 --> 00:04:51,947 Speaker 4: all the channels over here, but ESPN seems like a 96 00:04:51,987 --> 00:04:55,827 Speaker 4: logical fit because you know it's it's on every single 97 00:04:55,907 --> 00:04:59,947 Speaker 4: hotel room and and you get the message out. 98 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:03,227 Speaker 2: Have you had the chance to go to to anything else? 99 00:05:03,267 --> 00:05:05,227 Speaker 2: Have you been to watch your Chicago Bulls game? 100 00:05:06,507 --> 00:05:09,067 Speaker 3: I've been to two, Pinty. I went one as a fan, 101 00:05:09,107 --> 00:05:10,307 Speaker 3: in one is working media. 102 00:05:10,347 --> 00:05:13,067 Speaker 4: So I was there last night throwing a few questions 103 00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:17,067 Speaker 4: at Josh Guiney and the coach Billy Donovan. I was 104 00:05:17,067 --> 00:05:19,627 Speaker 4: pretty impressed with Josh Getty, giving that he's just this 105 00:05:19,747 --> 00:05:24,187 Speaker 4: Aussie kids, you know, six foot seven, but he just moves. 106 00:05:24,227 --> 00:05:26,387 Speaker 4: He's so slick with his movement and he's got a 107 00:05:26,387 --> 00:05:29,307 Speaker 4: bit of a clunky shot on him, but even that's improving. 108 00:05:29,427 --> 00:05:32,107 Speaker 3: So he's a budding superstar. 109 00:05:32,187 --> 00:05:35,107 Speaker 4: And even I asked Billy Donovan, you know what's the 110 00:05:35,187 --> 00:05:36,827 Speaker 4: ceiling and he goes, oh, he can be an All 111 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:40,227 Speaker 4: Star for sure, which would make him the greatest ever 112 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:42,907 Speaker 4: Ossie basketballer. I think if he goes, if he's heading 113 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:46,627 Speaker 4: in that direction, and you know, it's a strange that 114 00:05:46,987 --> 00:05:49,827 Speaker 4: they're five and oh they're on a high, the Bulls. 115 00:05:49,827 --> 00:05:52,627 Speaker 4: But the one thing that I think kiwis will take back. 116 00:05:52,707 --> 00:05:55,507 Speaker 4: Take away from that is just how engaging an entire 117 00:05:55,587 --> 00:05:58,747 Speaker 4: night at the basketball is never a dull moment, always 118 00:05:58,747 --> 00:06:01,707 Speaker 4: thinking about the fans. And if you are ever watching 119 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:05,467 Speaker 4: a basketball game, if you can, like I go on 120 00:06:05,627 --> 00:06:09,107 Speaker 4: NBA part and you can get the in stadium experience, 121 00:06:09,187 --> 00:06:11,627 Speaker 4: so you see kiss cam and look alike cam and 122 00:06:12,027 --> 00:06:15,067 Speaker 4: the whole lot, and it's actually it's kind of cool. Really, 123 00:06:15,067 --> 00:06:17,067 Speaker 4: it's a great way to watch sport as well on TV, 124 00:06:17,187 --> 00:06:19,907 Speaker 4: but in stadium it's hard to beat. 125 00:06:20,307 --> 00:06:23,347 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, to finish our Baseball World Series Game seven, 126 00:06:23,387 --> 00:06:25,867 Speaker 2: deciding Game seven, top of the third at the moment, 127 00:06:26,227 --> 00:06:29,267 Speaker 2: still no runs between the Dodgers and the Blue Jays. 128 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:32,347 Speaker 2: Are great that this is going the distance. Any predictions 129 00:06:32,387 --> 00:06:35,667 Speaker 2: who's lifting who's lifting the World Series in a couple 130 00:06:35,707 --> 00:06:37,747 Speaker 2: of hours or maybe a bit longer if the other 131 00:06:37,787 --> 00:06:39,747 Speaker 2: day's anything to go by. 132 00:06:41,107 --> 00:06:44,347 Speaker 4: Look, the bases were loaded for Toronto and then they 133 00:06:44,387 --> 00:06:48,027 Speaker 4: didn't capitalize. So that feels to me that you cannot 134 00:06:48,147 --> 00:06:52,027 Speaker 4: give an opportunity show he's about to warm up to 135 00:06:52,187 --> 00:06:54,467 Speaker 4: come into bat, he's pitching as well. 136 00:06:54,747 --> 00:06:56,787 Speaker 3: I mean, it's so box office, isn't it. 137 00:06:56,787 --> 00:07:00,067 Speaker 4: This whole series is going to bring people to baseball 138 00:07:00,067 --> 00:07:02,987 Speaker 4: because you're watching really the greatest of all time. It's 139 00:07:03,027 --> 00:07:04,827 Speaker 4: a pretty great time in sport. I mean you and 140 00:07:04,867 --> 00:07:07,947 Speaker 4: I as football fans, we feel lucky to have watched, 141 00:07:08,467 --> 00:07:11,787 Speaker 4: you know, Lionel Messi and Ronaldo sort of jeweling right 142 00:07:11,867 --> 00:07:15,907 Speaker 4: over the past decade or so. Well, now baseball has 143 00:07:15,947 --> 00:07:19,387 Speaker 4: got that, it's got its moment, it's got an absolute superstar, 144 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:21,547 Speaker 4: and now people will probably find out about all the 145 00:07:21,587 --> 00:07:23,507 Speaker 4: other stars and the sport because of him. 146 00:07:23,987 --> 00:07:28,387 Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Hey, thanks for joining us. I could hear 147 00:07:28,427 --> 00:07:31,307 Speaker 2: the sirens in the background. I presume they weren't. They 148 00:07:31,347 --> 00:07:34,147 Speaker 2: weren't for you, weren't for you. You haven't been some 149 00:07:34,307 --> 00:07:34,427 Speaker 2: of that. 150 00:07:34,587 --> 00:07:35,867 Speaker 3: Well, we don't know yet. Party. 151 00:07:35,947 --> 00:07:37,867 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm not quite sure what I've done wrong, 152 00:07:37,907 --> 00:07:39,947 Speaker 4: but I did jaywalk earlier today. 153 00:07:39,987 --> 00:07:43,747 Speaker 3: I'm not proud of myself, but I had places. 154 00:07:43,347 --> 00:07:45,627 Speaker 2: To be travel safe. 155 00:07:45,627 --> 00:07:45,787 Speaker 3: Mate. 156 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:49,747 Speaker 2: James McCarney joining us live from Chica Governor's regular slot 157 00:07:49,787 --> 00:07:51,227 Speaker 2: here on Weekend Sport. 158 00:07:51,867 --> 00:07:55,027 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fain, listen live 159 00:07:55,147 --> 00:07:58,427 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 160 00:07:58,467 --> 00:08:00,027 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.