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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Mattin Tyler Afternoons podcast. Met he had

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Speaker 2: to shoot off he has seen a very important event,

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Speaker 2: the Apprentice of the Year, big rehearsals for that show,

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Speaker 2: so just me giving you a week preview. On today's show. Friday,

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Speaker 2: we had topical tunes, as we always do on Friday,

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Speaker 2: Matt picked a real wounder of a song. Absolute disgusting

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Speaker 2: behavior from him, but you're going to want to have

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Speaker 2: a listen to that one. After two o'clock we talked

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Speaker 2: about social media. Ozzie's want to kick off kids under

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Speaker 2: about is that even possible? A lot of parents rang

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Speaker 2: up about the woes they have with their kids and

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Speaker 2: social media. And after one o'clock men males, young boys

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Speaker 2: not going to university. That was the big chat and

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Speaker 2: bloody interesting. I've got to say, some deep discussion on

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Speaker 2: why young men are not going to university and want

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Speaker 2: to get into a trade mostly money. But that was

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Speaker 2: the show today, So have a great weekend. Hey, if

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Speaker 2: you're down in Dunedin, go to the beer fest and

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Speaker 2: give media hard time because he'll be there. And I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go find a portable AIRCN system because I

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Speaker 2: can't deal with this Aukland heat.

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Speaker 3: All right, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on News Talk Savvy.

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Speaker 3: Very very good afternoon to you Friday.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon always, so we're happy on a Friday. Geta mat Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get a Tyler.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy.

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Speaker 4: I'm going down to the Dunedin Craft Beer and Food

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Speaker 4: Festival tomorrow. That is a fantastic lucky.

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Speaker 3: Bugger under the roof at forsythe BA Stadium. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's on the agenda?

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Speaker 2: Have you zeroed in on the beer tent that you're

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Speaker 4: I don't really care what particular beer I'm drinking. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: actually i am. I'm actually serving a beer. Actually, now

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Speaker 4: I think about it, what I'm talking about. I'm serving

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Speaker 3: I've got about that. It's called the Let's Get Busy.

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Speaker 3: Nice good names served.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it last year. I was on the taps.

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Speaker 4: I brewed it with the good people at Emerson's. Good drop,

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Speaker 4: fantastic drop. I haven't tasted this year is yet. I'll

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Speaker 4: call it Let's get zbe this year. Yeah, because it

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Speaker 4: was a hod Aki Radio had achi promotion last year,

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Speaker 4: but now a new still zib keep it on brands. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: come and come and say hello to me. If you're

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Speaker 4: down in Dunedin and you had beer Fist on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: You've also got a big night tonight. Actually yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I'm hosting and this is a fantastic thing and it

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Speaker 4: plays into what we're going to be talking about this hour.

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Speaker 4: But I'm hosting the National Apprentice of the Year twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four Awards, where you where we celebrate the best

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Speaker 4: apprentices in the country building apprentices and these are amazingly

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Speaker 4: talented young people.

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Speaker 3: Hosted it last.

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Speaker 4: Year as well, and boy, oh boy, I'm not handy.

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Speaker 4: I'm not handy at all. I can't fix anything. To

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Speaker 4: so impressed by them, and I'm so impressed by anyone

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Speaker 4: that can do that. And all apprenticeship program's fantastic, but

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Speaker 4: great awards.

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Speaker 3: Dinner there the best of us.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to do a bit of diy

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Speaker 3: Constantly? Yeah, and wors doesn't it? It hurts. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to say this as a man of the household.

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Speaker 2: It hurts when I try and fix something and that's

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Speaker 4: I know, I was trying to put in a lock

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Speaker 2: Just get a blokeout, That's what I've realized. Right after

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Speaker 2: a quick preview for the rest of the show, after

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Speaker 2: three o'clock, it is Friday. That means typical tunes. To

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Speaker 2: each pick a song related to a theme of the week.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit tenure with sometimes, and I think

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Speaker 3: Off for me. It's not now. I'm currently up three

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Speaker 3: Good luck, good luck. I've got.

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Speaker 4: My topic is Amish people, and I think that is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'll take you with it.

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Speaker 5: That one.

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Speaker 3: That's after three point thirty.

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Speaker 2: And we've also got New Zealander of the Week after

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as we do every Friday on Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Afternoons on ZB we announce the New Zealand of the week.

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Speaker 4: Who's it gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Woo after two o'clock. Australia are trying to ban social

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Speaker 2: you can imagine, have rejected that. They say, nah, we're

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Speaker 2: We'll sixteen year olds, all fifteen year olds just bypass

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Speaker 4: Currently the rules are for TikTok and Instagram and such

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you go to one of those alcohol

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Speaker 3: It's like an open gate flapping. Are you eighteen? Yes? Easy,

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Speaker 3: But how do you police that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's after two o'clock because right now we do

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Speaker 2: he said, I quote, I think that the gender balance

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Speaker 2: at what point do we as a society become concerned

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Speaker 3: It's a great quote.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, young men aren't going to university, But why one

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Speaker 4: Do we need our men to go through tertiary education

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Speaker 2: What's your take on it? Why don't you think young

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure because they haven't really been involved

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty love your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: this one. Nine two nine two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four us talk.

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Speaker 7: Sa'd be.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past one. Very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about why young men in particular are not

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Speaker 2: going to university in the same numbers or tertiary education

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Speaker 2: for that matter. This is on the back of a

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Speaker 2: story this morning that's said and I quote that woman

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Speaker 2: now made up nearly two thirds of all enrollments in

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Speaker 2: health professional programs, which is a big number. Oh, eight

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Speaker 8: If you go back twenty twenty five years ago, the

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Speaker 8: same as what it was then. Because if you had

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Speaker 8: Now she's living in Australia, she's on one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as the

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the My Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 16: The jobless rate is still to rise, Yes it is,

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Speaker 3: I had a number of doctors over the year. I

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Speaker 16: Couldn't get a manned woman I've had Asian. I mean,

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Speaker 16: what's it matter? How is it You couldn't get National

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Speaker 7: Why is it dead?

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Speaker 3: Essentially?

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Speaker 12: I think the National Party are afraid of taking on

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Speaker 2: Twenty three past one.

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Speaker 4: There's a massive disparity between males and females and tertiary

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Speaker 3: Why is that.

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Speaker 4: We've We've got a stat that Tuger University it's now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at the university, David, your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hi, guys, look at the worldwide phenom rum two.

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Speaker 6: Apparently it's not just us that's in the States, the

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Speaker 6: me that it's a blink of an eye. Evolutionary turns.

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Speaker 6: Just be with the thirty seconds. It's a blink that

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Speaker 6: may have noticed that men that women tend to have

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Speaker 6: it's weird, isn't it. Mate of the time that's reversed,

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Speaker 6: a male to go out. It's in our DNA, it's

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Speaker 6: And lastly, sorry for comparing with thing. The best way

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Speaker 6: We use your hands more than your brain and it's wide,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I mean he thought that was

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Speaker 2: But for others who are going out to become plumbers

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Speaker 3: Yep. So we've been in a good partnership for a

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about the gender disparity at universities now with

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Speaker 4: guy called Richard V. Reeves who wrote the Book of

442
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Speaker 4: Boys and Men. Why the modern male is struggling, why

443
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Speaker 4: it matters and what to do about it.

444
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Speaker 3: It's a fantastic book. He's a professor at.

445
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Speaker 4: Harvard and I asked him the question, you know, why

446
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Speaker 4: are males struggling morning society? And this sort of said

447
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Speaker 4: to me? He said, boys and men are further behind

448
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Speaker 4: girls and women in education than they were ahead in

449
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Speaker 4: the nineteen seventies. There's been a reversal of the gender

450
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Speaker 4: gap here in the US, New Zealand, Australia and the UK,

451
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Speaker 4: and it's growing fast. We've also seen a decline in

452
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Speaker 4: the traditional male jobs and manufacturing and heavy industry, and

453
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Speaker 4: haven't seen much of a move into new jobs in

454
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Speaker 4: areas like health and education. Men are being benched by

455
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Speaker 4: changes in the labor market, particularly globalization and automation. We're

456
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Speaker 4: also seeing arise in the number of kids being raised

457
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Speaker 4: without fathers. I think that's because we've changed the economic

458
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Speaker 4: basis for the family and ways that are positive, because

459
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Speaker 4: we've seen women becoming more much more economic and independent,

460
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Speaker 4: but we haven't recast fatherhood for this new world. These

461
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Speaker 4: changes leave a lot of young men dislocated, disorientated, and

462
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Speaker 4: lacking a script to follow. We have problems around isolation,

463
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Speaker 4: mental health and medication, and of course high suicide rates

464
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Speaker 4: among young men. So we have interested you know, there

465
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Speaker 4: was obviously things that we wanted to even up between

466
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Speaker 4: men and women. But you know, people are starting to say,

467
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Speaker 4: now there is a serious problem with men and when

468
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Speaker 4: it comes to tertiary education, men aren't going into that.

469
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Speaker 4: But it's that a good or a bad thing. Because

470
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Speaker 4: if they're going into an apprenticeship or a trade, then

471
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Speaker 4: I'm happy with that. But if they're sitting around at

472
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Speaker 4: home doom scrolling social media, addicted to blue material and

473
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Speaker 4: playing video games and going nowhere, getting into drugs and

474
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Speaker 4: drinking too much the end, that's a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's why they gravitate to people like Andrew

476
00:21:07,013 --> 00:21:09,453
Speaker 2: Tate right and Jordan Peterson, because they are giving them

477
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Speaker 2: a message that there's nothing wrong with you and you

478
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Speaker 2: just need to do these things and you'll succeed in

479
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Speaker 2: life and being alpha male and all that sort of stuff.

480
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Speaker 2: But there's clearly is there's a profound issue with young

481
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Speaker 2: men at the moment. Nathan, what's your take on it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Gillo, lads, I've got two points. That's a really

483
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Speaker 11: interesting piece you just read and I think to a

484
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Speaker 11: certain degree men not being men anymore in the traditional

485
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Speaker 11: sense of going to going to work, and typically male

486
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Speaker 11: roles has an issue with some of those things around

487
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Speaker 11: mental health and all of that sort of stuff. But

488
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Speaker 11: the point that I was going to raise was going

489
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Speaker 11: to be didn't the government a we while ago when

490
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Speaker 11: we had a big shortage and tradees roll out and

491
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Speaker 11: apprenticeship scheme where there was some funding and support for

492
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Speaker 11: businesses taking on apprentices Yeah, there was not of the

493
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Speaker 11: details of that that may have that may have directed

494
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Speaker 11: a whole heap of people more recently into trades. But

495
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Speaker 11: my story, I did three degrees at university, I spent

496
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Speaker 11: six and a half years there, and I'm a trade now.

497
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Speaker 11: I came out of university with a master's degree and

498
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Speaker 11: couldn't get more than fifty grand. So how you pay

499
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Speaker 11: off alone after six and a half years on that

500
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Speaker 11: kind of money, particularly in the current environment, I don't

501
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Speaker 11: know why you do it. You can make more money

502
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Speaker 11: as an unqualified like hammerhand, so yeah, don't Maybe it's

503
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Speaker 11: just a bit of common sense coming back into the

504
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Speaker 11: into the space where guys are like, well, I can

505
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Speaker 11: do better for myself if I go down the trade route, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, Sorry, Nathan, what did you study at university?

507
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Speaker 11: I did a master's in business sustainability and undergrad and

508
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Speaker 11: international sorry post grad and international business, and an undergrad

509
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Speaker 11: and marketing and public relations.

510
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Speaker 3: Did any of that help you?

511
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Speaker 4: Even though you didn't go directly into that area, did

512
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Speaker 4: any of it help you?

513
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Speaker 3: And has it helped you in your life in any way?

514
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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Being self employed, I mean all of that helps running

516
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Speaker 11: my own business from a marketing perspective and comms and

517
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Speaker 11: you know, a degree in business is pretty helpful too,

518
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Speaker 11: So yeah, totally. I mean, it certainly hasn't been a

519
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Speaker 11: wasted qualification, But as far as trying to get a

520
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Speaker 11: job coming out of university with all of those qualifications

521
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Speaker 11: in any of those fields, certainly certainly didn't give me

522
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Speaker 11: the hands up that I thought it was going to.

523
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Speaker 11: That's why I did a master's was to try and

524
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Speaker 11: get ahead, and it just didn't.

525
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Speaker 3: Did you think too?

526
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Speaker 11: When I was at school, everyone sold the dream, you know,

527
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Speaker 11: from a career's perspective, that university was the way to go.

528
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Speaker 11: This was how you got a job and got ahead

529
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Speaker 11: of the crowd. But it just it just didn't turn

530
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Speaker 11: out to be the case, and I think maybe my

531
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Speaker 11: generation is now having kids and doing that sort of thing,

532
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Speaker 11: and maybe we'll see people like I would try and

533
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Speaker 11: get any of my kids if I have them, men

534
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Speaker 11: or women, probably into the trades. Yeah, because I think

535
00:24:13,933 --> 00:24:15,813
Speaker 11: the rest of it's been overdone.

536
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely sold, wasn't it that at one

537
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Speaker 4: point that for economic growth and for individuals that going

538
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Speaker 4: to university was a thing you needed to do, and

539
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Speaker 4: the stats of how many people going to university, if

540
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Speaker 4: we got them up, then it was better for the

541
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Speaker 4: country and better for everyone. But it didn't really pan

542
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Speaker 4: out that way, did it, Because then you have if

543
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Speaker 4: everyone's going to university, then you don't have a competitive advantage,

544
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Speaker 4: and people aren't doing all the jobs they need to do,

545
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Speaker 4: especially since people go to university and don't necessarily do

546
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Speaker 4: the courses that lead specifically to jobs. I mean, we've

547
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Speaker 4: talked about a lot in using over years how many

548
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Speaker 4: engineers we need, but not everyone's doing that. And if

549
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Speaker 4: you're an idiot like me, you go to university and

550
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Speaker 4: get a degree in philosophy and run up a.

551
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Speaker 3: Huge student yet, which is just a waste of everyone's time.

552
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Speaker 11: Yeah, totally, I think too. Though at school it was

553
00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:08,773
Speaker 11: you if you were going to go into a trade,

554
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Speaker 11: if you dropped out in the sixth form or whatever,

555
00:25:10,693 --> 00:25:12,933
Speaker 11: and when and did a trade, you were seen as

556
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Speaker 11: the dumb one.

557
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, a lot of my.

558
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Speaker 11: Mates that went and did trades, they all owned houses

559
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Speaker 11: before I finished university. Yeah, you know, coming out with

560
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Speaker 11: a fifty sixty thousand dollars loan and they've got more

561
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Speaker 11: than that saved for a deposit.

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Speaker 18: You know.

563
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Speaker 4: So basically what you're saying is, ironically, the smart people

564
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Speaker 4: don't go to university.

565
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, Nate, thank you very much, thanks for giving

567
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Speaker 2: us a buzz just on that. I mean, do you

568
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Speaker 2: think it is still ingrained that men feel they need

569
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Speaker 2: to be the provider, so they chase where they can

570
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Speaker 2: get the most money to bring home the bacon, so

571
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Speaker 2: to speak, and women, I want to hear, we want

572
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Speaker 2: to hear from you whether that is still you know, I.

573
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Speaker 4: Can only speak Tyler from a male perspective, because that's

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Speaker 4: what I am. But when we had our first child,

575
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Speaker 4: and I just looked at that child and thought, I

576
00:26:03,053 --> 00:26:05,613
Speaker 4: need to provide for this little guy because no one

577
00:26:05,613 --> 00:26:07,013
Speaker 4: else can. I need to get him a house to

578
00:26:07,053 --> 00:26:08,053
Speaker 4: live in I need to make.

579
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Speaker 3: Sure life's good.

580
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Speaker 4: Little Charlie who just had an exam today. Actually, yeah,

581
00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:16,933
Speaker 4: I suddenly my whole life made sense, and for me

582
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Speaker 4: from a male perspective, I don't know the female perspective,

583
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Speaker 4: but I was finally, oh, that's what I need to do.

584
00:26:21,453 --> 00:26:23,333
Speaker 4: I need to I've been messing around doing all these

585
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Speaker 4: other things, but that's what I needed to do. I

586
00:26:26,373 --> 00:26:28,613
Speaker 4: needed to look after this and which was a huge

587
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Speaker 4: amount of struggle. I knew at that point I was

588
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Speaker 4: going to have a whole lot of worry and it

589
00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:33,853
Speaker 4: was going to be really, really tough and hard. But

590
00:26:34,693 --> 00:26:37,693
Speaker 4: having that purpose was so great for me because I

591
00:26:37,693 --> 00:26:40,173
Speaker 4: finally worked it out and say, oh, I get it. Yeah,

592
00:26:40,213 --> 00:26:41,053
Speaker 4: that's what my thing.

593
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm here to look after this little guy.

594
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Speaker 3: This is great. Yeah, so I don't know, it definitely

595
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Speaker 3: aligned with my evolution. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty females listeners

597
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Speaker 2: love to hear from you. How do you feel about this?

598
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Speaker 2: I mean, is this sort of the part of the

599
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Speaker 2: reason why there is that gender divide is that primarily

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Speaker 2: men want to chase money and be the provider and

601
00:27:04,973 --> 00:27:06,773
Speaker 2: women want to chase their passion. Is that what it

602
00:27:06,773 --> 00:27:07,293
Speaker 2: comes down to.

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00:27:07,733 --> 00:27:10,053
Speaker 4: Well, yeah's owned a lot of Yeah, I mean, and

604
00:27:10,453 --> 00:27:13,533
Speaker 4: we've got to say, for sure, it's fantastic that women

605
00:27:13,573 --> 00:27:15,573
Speaker 4: are doing well and that women have more opportunities than

606
00:27:15,573 --> 00:27:17,853
Speaker 4: they used to have. That is absolutely fantastic, But we

607
00:27:17,893 --> 00:27:21,693
Speaker 4: want everyone to succeed. Yeah, a male female whatever, this

608
00:27:22,253 --> 00:27:23,813
Speaker 4: absolutely Craig, how are you?

609
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Good God, I'm by no means an academic and I've

611
00:27:29,093 --> 00:27:32,653
Speaker 20: never made it at university, so I went into the trade.

612
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Speaker 20: But I think there's also a problem, and it's been

613
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Speaker 20: a societal problem probably for the last definitely for the

614
00:27:40,653 --> 00:27:45,853
Speaker 20: last thirty years, has definitely rapping up agin or minority

615
00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,693
Speaker 20: groups and that kind of thing, whether it be sexuality

616
00:27:48,973 --> 00:27:53,053
Speaker 20: or whatever it is. At universities seem to be celebrated.

617
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Speaker 20: To our education system, boys aren't allowed to be boys, yeah,

618
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Speaker 20: in the sense of the russ and tumble at primary

619
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Speaker 20: school and that kind of thing. And I just think

620
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:09,333
Speaker 20: bloaks are sick of it. They've been sh tom now

621
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Speaker 20: for well a couple of decades at least, and they're

622
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:18,013
Speaker 20: think of it. So why carry on? And universities seem

623
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Speaker 20: to be the spokesperson for these marginal groups if you like,

624
00:28:22,693 --> 00:28:26,053
Speaker 20: and I think they're done. I think bloats are done,

625
00:28:27,173 --> 00:28:29,933
Speaker 20: and so they go to the trades where they can

626
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Speaker 20: escape that crack. I mean, if universities were like they

627
00:28:33,533 --> 00:28:36,733
Speaker 20: were I guess a few years ago, the smartest way,

628
00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:41,173
Speaker 20: and they learned their occupation or their their medical or

629
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Speaker 20: their law or whatever, and that's all they did, and

630
00:28:43,453 --> 00:28:46,333
Speaker 20: they specialized in that. I think they have just as

631
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Speaker 20: many blokes coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is actually a real risk if men

633
00:28:51,213 --> 00:28:53,973
Speaker 3: decide that society doesn't like them, doesn't want them. There's

634
00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:57,453
Speaker 3: a if you ever check them out. He's a great

635
00:28:57,453 --> 00:29:00,453
Speaker 3: writer and podcaster. A go called professor Scott Gallawa out

636
00:29:00,493 --> 00:29:03,693
Speaker 3: of the States, and he said the worst societies and

637
00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:06,013
Speaker 3: the societies that go off the rails the worst. And

638
00:29:06,053 --> 00:29:08,773
Speaker 3: when you have a cohort of young men that don't

639
00:29:08,773 --> 00:29:13,613
Speaker 3: feel engaged in society, don't have partners, don't participate in society,

640
00:29:13,653 --> 00:29:16,053
Speaker 3: that is where societies go off the rail because they'll

641
00:29:16,093 --> 00:29:18,253
Speaker 3: find a place to unleash the energy. So for the

642
00:29:18,573 --> 00:29:20,813
Speaker 3: for the good of all of society, you have to

643
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:23,933
Speaker 3: find things for young males to do that are productive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said oh eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty.

645
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Speaker 2: Love to hear your thoughts on this one. It is

646
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Speaker 2: nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

648
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Speaker 1: matt Even Tyler Adams afternoons us talk.

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Speaker 3: The'd be afternoon, Oliver, how are you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Good?

652
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Speaker 9: Ha bet youself?

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Speaker 3: Yeah very good.

654
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Speaker 2: Now you're a young man and you're not going to

655
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Speaker 2: go to UNI indeed.

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Speaker 15: So I'm year twelve at the moment, and I've done

657
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Speaker 15: my subjects a year up, so I'm just doing my

658
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Speaker 15: Level three exams right now, and I already have my

659
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Speaker 15: university entrance and I've managed to get first and second

660
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Speaker 15: in my year group pretty much my whole time at college.

661
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Speaker 15: But really it's not it's not something that is really

662
00:30:06,253 --> 00:30:08,133
Speaker 15: I'm looking at anymore. And I think that's the same

663
00:30:08,173 --> 00:30:10,173
Speaker 15: with a lot of my peers. And most of that

664
00:30:10,293 --> 00:30:13,173
Speaker 15: is around both how much you're actually going to earn

665
00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:15,533
Speaker 15: coming out of it and the viability of a lot

666
00:30:15,573 --> 00:30:19,133
Speaker 15: of those roles long term. Yeah, I've always sort of

667
00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:23,333
Speaker 15: wanted to be a lawyer, but I mean, money isn't terrible,

668
00:30:23,413 --> 00:30:27,173
Speaker 15: but that versus like, I mean, AI, how much that's

669
00:30:27,213 --> 00:30:29,573
Speaker 15: going to impact it? But it just may not be

670
00:30:29,733 --> 00:30:31,133
Speaker 15: viable longer term.

671
00:30:31,573 --> 00:30:32,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think about that.

672
00:30:32,973 --> 00:30:40,493
Speaker 4: Accounting legal seriously under threat from large language models, you know,

673
00:30:40,933 --> 00:30:45,253
Speaker 4: and programming to a certain extent as well. So you know,

674
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Speaker 4: if you're going to invest amount of money that you

675
00:30:46,813 --> 00:30:49,613
Speaker 4: would have to and to a degree, Oliver, you're going

676
00:30:49,693 --> 00:30:53,413
Speaker 4: to end up you'll want that something to be a

677
00:30:53,413 --> 00:30:55,093
Speaker 4: career that you can do for twenty years, wouldn't you.

678
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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, indeed. And it's just it's that uncertainty. So

679
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:02,813
Speaker 15: I mean what me and a lot of others talking

680
00:31:02,853 --> 00:31:05,253
Speaker 15: to them are looking at as well. You weigh that

681
00:31:05,373 --> 00:31:07,533
Speaker 15: up versus something you think you could actually be really

682
00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:09,933
Speaker 15: passionate about, and the money is not that much different.

683
00:31:10,653 --> 00:31:15,493
Speaker 15: I'm actually looking at the becoming a police officer because

684
00:31:15,533 --> 00:31:20,773
Speaker 15: they are eighty ninety grand a year now and it's

685
00:31:20,773 --> 00:31:22,973
Speaker 15: fairly stable and you're always going to need them.

686
00:31:23,213 --> 00:31:25,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can move up through the ranks

687
00:31:25,573 --> 00:31:27,893
Speaker 4: become a detective. You know, there's there's there's a path

688
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 4: through there. Hard hard, hard work, and good on you

689
00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:33,573
Speaker 4: for doing it. We need more cops, We need more cops.

690
00:31:33,613 --> 00:31:37,213
Speaker 4: Fantastic geez, you sound like an incredibly smart and mature

691
00:31:37,253 --> 00:31:39,093
Speaker 4: person for year twelve, Oliver.

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00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:45,013
Speaker 15: Thank you well, I mean, I mean, and that's sort

693
00:31:45,013 --> 00:31:47,573
Speaker 15: of that's sort of why I thought i'd called represent

694
00:31:47,653 --> 00:31:52,613
Speaker 15: That could be sort of the substrate which is expected

695
00:31:52,773 --> 00:31:55,173
Speaker 15: to go to UNI. And that's probably sort of what

696
00:31:55,213 --> 00:31:57,453
Speaker 15: my parents have expected, and I've looked to them about

697
00:31:57,493 --> 00:32:01,013
Speaker 15: it and what's generally expected. But it's just not some

698
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,533
Speaker 15: not something I'm really looking at.

699
00:32:03,013 --> 00:32:07,293
Speaker 4: Can see you're becoming the police commissioner at some point. Absolutely,

700
00:32:06,773 --> 00:32:10,453
Speaker 4: we definitely need you go into the police force. Someone

701
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:12,053
Speaker 4: smart like you. I think you can make a real

702
00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:14,853
Speaker 4: difference in the community. So I thank you so much

703
00:32:14,853 --> 00:32:17,493
Speaker 4: for your call. It is interesting that because I also

704
00:32:17,573 --> 00:32:20,373
Speaker 4: look at like my kids and how much they can

705
00:32:20,573 --> 00:32:22,853
Speaker 4: learn just on YouTube. So if you want to know something,

706
00:32:23,053 --> 00:32:26,213
Speaker 4: because university gives you certificate certification so you can get

707
00:32:26,253 --> 00:32:29,573
Speaker 4: a job, right, But in terms of actually learning something,

708
00:32:30,133 --> 00:32:33,093
Speaker 4: if you need to learn it and understand something, you

709
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:35,373
Speaker 4: can get everything you need to learn.

710
00:32:35,213 --> 00:32:37,653
Speaker 3: For free on the internet out there.

711
00:32:37,853 --> 00:32:40,973
Speaker 4: A couple of texts coming through from this is from

712
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,453
Speaker 4: Rachel Didham's boys are having a rough time. Women have

713
00:32:44,453 --> 00:32:46,333
Speaker 4: had a rough time for all eternity. Men have a

714
00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:48,053
Speaker 4: couple of bad years and now we're supposed to feel

715
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:51,773
Speaker 4: sorry for them, get over yourself. You to a pathetic Okay,

716
00:32:52,373 --> 00:32:56,933
Speaker 4: thanks very Rachel. Thanks Rachel, you seem very empathetic. But

717
00:32:57,093 --> 00:32:59,653
Speaker 4: Mary says, my sons all went into the trades and

718
00:32:59,693 --> 00:33:02,013
Speaker 4: so pleased they didn't go to university. They have no

719
00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:03,333
Speaker 4: debt and they're thriving.

720
00:33:03,573 --> 00:33:08,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. So oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Brian,

721
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:09,973
Speaker 3: how are you hi?

722
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Speaker 19: I'm good, Thank you.

723
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Speaker 2: Great to chat with you. So what's your take on this?

724
00:33:14,853 --> 00:33:17,773
Speaker 19: I just wanted to mention my husband he was actually

725
00:33:17,893 --> 00:33:22,173
Speaker 19: in a in a religion where he wasn't allowed to

726
00:33:22,213 --> 00:33:26,373
Speaker 19: go to university and so he was kind of forced

727
00:33:26,653 --> 00:33:32,413
Speaker 19: to go into the trades and the religion was explosive Brethren, okay,

728
00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:38,613
Speaker 19: and and yeah, and that comparing his life at that

729
00:33:38,693 --> 00:33:42,493
Speaker 19: particular time with friends that they'd go to unie, he

730
00:33:42,573 --> 00:33:45,613
Speaker 19: was in the same or he was the opposite vote

731
00:33:45,653 --> 00:33:50,533
Speaker 19: to say Nathan who you're talking to earlier. Yeah, So

732
00:33:50,573 --> 00:33:53,493
Speaker 19: he had the money and they had the debt, and

733
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:56,933
Speaker 19: so that worked out really well for him. And then

734
00:33:57,053 --> 00:34:04,373
Speaker 19: going forward, I studied and now I'm mum, and he

735
00:34:04,413 --> 00:34:07,213
Speaker 19: wouldn't have it any other way, Like if I were

736
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:12,772
Speaker 19: stay try and go back to work, he I don't

737
00:34:12,773 --> 00:34:16,413
Speaker 19: know him providing for his family it's his purpose in life,

738
00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:20,933
Speaker 19: not like it gives him the drive to keep on going.

739
00:34:21,053 --> 00:34:24,293
Speaker 19: And yeah, it's just kind of my cake on it.

740
00:34:24,613 --> 00:34:26,533
Speaker 3: And how do you feel about that position?

741
00:34:27,813 --> 00:34:31,053
Speaker 19: And at the moment, at the moment, I can see,

742
00:34:31,173 --> 00:34:34,293
Speaker 19: because we've got four kids, we can't really do it

743
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:37,093
Speaker 19: any other way. For me to go back to nursing,

744
00:34:37,133 --> 00:34:42,453
Speaker 19: it's just a impossible kind of thing. Yeah, So yeah,

745
00:34:42,453 --> 00:34:45,933
Speaker 19: I've had to take a backstep in my career, but

746
00:34:47,053 --> 00:34:49,893
Speaker 19: I can't see it happening any other way with at

747
00:34:49,893 --> 00:34:50,893
Speaker 19: the moment anyway.

748
00:34:51,093 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting though. My mum had four kids

749
00:34:53,973 --> 00:34:54,253
Speaker 3: as well.

750
00:34:54,253 --> 00:34:56,853
Speaker 4: I was one of them, and she gave up her

751
00:34:56,893 --> 00:35:01,293
Speaker 4: career to bring us up for a long time. And look,

752
00:35:01,373 --> 00:35:03,252
Speaker 4: she's a very smart person, one of the smart ones.

753
00:35:03,293 --> 00:35:05,373
Speaker 4: I would argue, the smartest person ever met my life.

754
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:07,813
Speaker 4: My dad's pretty smart. She's smarter than my dad. Yeah,

755
00:35:07,853 --> 00:35:10,253
Speaker 4: and he would he wouldn't argue with that. But I

756
00:35:10,293 --> 00:35:14,013
Speaker 4: think that in the end she resented that to to

757
00:35:14,013 --> 00:35:16,933
Speaker 4: to to quite quite a degree, that she she had

758
00:35:16,973 --> 00:35:19,013
Speaker 4: given up a lot for us kids. As much as

759
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,813
Speaker 4: she loved us kids and as much as she would

760
00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:25,093
Speaker 4: not change how we how we were and having us around.

761
00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:26,893
Speaker 4: I think I think it was it was quite rough

762
00:35:26,933 --> 00:35:31,212
Speaker 4: for her going in the end. So yeah, I mean

763
00:35:31,253 --> 00:35:34,733
Speaker 4: it's a it's a that's a complex it's a complex issue.

764
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:36,773
Speaker 6: Yeah it is.

765
00:35:37,293 --> 00:35:39,013
Speaker 19: No, I haven't got to that point of my life yet.

766
00:35:40,173 --> 00:35:42,733
Speaker 2: Do you think, you know, if if circumstances change and

767
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:44,373
Speaker 2: maybe the children get a bit older, do you think

768
00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:46,293
Speaker 2: you may ever go back into nursing.

769
00:35:47,013 --> 00:35:49,732
Speaker 19: Oh definitely, Yeah, I need, I need something you had

770
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:52,933
Speaker 19: to me to keep me driven and whatnot, and so

771
00:35:53,053 --> 00:35:57,453
Speaker 19: yet that is always on my mind. But with my

772
00:35:57,453 --> 00:36:02,493
Speaker 19: my husband being very business orientated, it's probably likely he

773
00:36:02,533 --> 00:36:06,213
Speaker 19: would probably prefer me to to work in the field

774
00:36:06,213 --> 00:36:10,373
Speaker 19: that I am qualify. I had four that maybe take

775
00:36:10,413 --> 00:36:12,013
Speaker 19: on my own business for l so I can work

776
00:36:12,053 --> 00:36:13,013
Speaker 19: around the kids a bit more.

777
00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:17,133
Speaker 2: Well, great to chat with you, Brian. And last question,

778
00:36:17,693 --> 00:36:20,133
Speaker 2: is your husband still with the Exclusive Brethren?

779
00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:23,893
Speaker 19: Oh well no, no, no, no, so he he came

780
00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:28,333
Speaker 19: out when he was eighteen, and yeah, I wouldn't be

781
00:36:28,413 --> 00:36:30,413
Speaker 19: listening to a radio if I wasn't it.

782
00:36:30,653 --> 00:36:33,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, good points, come for it, Brian, Thank you very much,

783
00:36:33,213 --> 00:36:34,293
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling.

784
00:36:34,653 --> 00:36:37,013
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll have time for

785
00:36:37,053 --> 00:36:37,893
Speaker 3: another couple of calls.

786
00:36:37,893 --> 00:36:39,373
Speaker 2: It is nine minutes to two.

787
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,133
Speaker 7: Madiat Tyler Adams taking your calls on.

788
00:36:44,373 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 1: Eight hundred eighty eth and Tyler Adams.

789
00:36:47,373 --> 00:36:50,413
Speaker 3: Afternoons news talks, they'd be seven minutes to two.

790
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:53,173
Speaker 9: Hey you hated, Hey you guys.

791
00:36:54,293 --> 00:36:58,533
Speaker 21: Interesting subject about the center the business versus going through

792
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:02,853
Speaker 21: the trades, etc. I've got a sort of recently to

793
00:37:03,493 --> 00:37:05,453
Speaker 21: view on some of these things because I work with

794
00:37:05,613 --> 00:37:07,692
Speaker 21: a lot of trades. But I come from an area

795
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:10,453
Speaker 21: of a higher level of education. But I never look

796
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:13,652
Speaker 21: at university and I'm I don't know as kids at

797
00:37:13,693 --> 00:37:17,293
Speaker 21: school that education wasn't really my thing. But the older

798
00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:21,653
Speaker 21: I've got, the more I've realized that actually education and

799
00:37:21,813 --> 00:37:25,173
Speaker 21: knowledge is the key to everything you do. And the

800
00:37:25,253 --> 00:37:27,252
Speaker 21: older I get, and I'm an eve of my working life,

801
00:37:27,293 --> 00:37:28,893
Speaker 21: is that the more and more I enjoy it. And

802
00:37:28,933 --> 00:37:31,973
Speaker 21: I happily go into some university subjects and probably another.

803
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:33,853
Speaker 21: But I wouldn't have when I came out of my

804
00:37:34,573 --> 00:37:38,333
Speaker 21: at a primary school those years ago. And I've got

805
00:37:38,333 --> 00:37:41,133
Speaker 21: the what my idea is that and on my understanding

806
00:37:41,173 --> 00:37:43,173
Speaker 21: is that one of the best fits of counting university

807
00:37:43,213 --> 00:37:46,733
Speaker 21: is that you're learned to think. Is it challenges challenges

808
00:37:46,773 --> 00:37:50,293
Speaker 21: you on how you think, and and that's really important.

809
00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:53,933
Speaker 21: And also as an aside, that elson the future employer

810
00:37:54,413 --> 00:37:56,933
Speaker 21: that actually you've got what it takes. You've got that,

811
00:37:57,053 --> 00:37:59,493
Speaker 21: you've got the ability to think, you've got the ability

812
00:37:59,573 --> 00:38:01,973
Speaker 21: to learn and all of the other there's other school

813
00:38:02,013 --> 00:38:05,613
Speaker 21: sets that you won't necessarily get because you've just gone

814
00:38:05,653 --> 00:38:08,252
Speaker 21: from school into a trade. And I work, I worked

815
00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:10,813
Speaker 21: for alongside trades, and I see them often from what

816
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:13,253
Speaker 21: I do, and I think, you know what, I'm not

817
00:38:13,373 --> 00:38:15,013
Speaker 21: sure there's a sixty year olds do you want to

818
00:38:15,053 --> 00:38:17,933
Speaker 21: be still doing it in physical work? You want the

819
00:38:18,133 --> 00:38:21,573
Speaker 21: ability to exceed that and do other things actually can

820
00:38:21,653 --> 00:38:24,333
Speaker 21: be smarter, but doingly be the money being easier in

821
00:38:24,413 --> 00:38:26,613
Speaker 21: the body and nothing to do this diysical things which

822
00:38:26,853 --> 00:38:29,813
Speaker 21: you'll neally you might have learned those twenty five to

823
00:38:29,813 --> 00:38:32,212
Speaker 21: three years ago, and actually you didn't ready learn much since.

824
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:37,013
Speaker 21: So that's sort of an important part in what really

825
00:38:37,493 --> 00:38:41,733
Speaker 21: I'm becoming more aware on a social media problem. The

826
00:38:42,453 --> 00:38:45,573
Speaker 21: sympathized it is it it seems divosty bility to think

827
00:38:46,093 --> 00:38:50,093
Speaker 21: as at a culture, and so somebody will respond to

828
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:52,973
Speaker 21: a statement ope an action, and they don't stop to

829
00:38:53,053 --> 00:38:57,533
Speaker 21: think that actually that's just direction has a reaction, and

830
00:38:58,373 --> 00:39:00,652
Speaker 21: that's one view, but it won't necessarily be the view

831
00:39:00,693 --> 00:39:03,373
Speaker 21: of another person because their experience will be different and

832
00:39:03,493 --> 00:39:05,613
Speaker 21: I'll have a different viewpoint. And it's really important in

833
00:39:05,653 --> 00:39:08,133
Speaker 21: your problem solved. You have to be able to lose.

834
00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:11,213
Speaker 21: I think, you know, I just think it's a society

835
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:14,813
Speaker 21: was lost the ability, and part of that part of

836
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,853
Speaker 21: it is because we're going to a tick box society

837
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:22,093
Speaker 21: and building Johns. A lot of the work goes into

838
00:39:22,213 --> 00:39:24,173
Speaker 21: chick box and martiality and it.

839
00:39:24,253 --> 00:39:27,853
Speaker 4: Stops see from yeah, thank you so much for your

840
00:39:27,973 --> 00:39:30,333
Speaker 4: for your call, Aiden, We're running out of time here,

841
00:39:30,853 --> 00:39:33,453
Speaker 4: but yeah, it is interesting also the idea of education

842
00:39:33,853 --> 00:39:36,893
Speaker 4: and learning for the joy of learning, And that's sort

843
00:39:36,893 --> 00:39:39,453
Speaker 4: of a stage I find myself in life. I do

844
00:39:39,653 --> 00:39:42,613
Speaker 4: way more study just in any given year than I

845
00:39:42,693 --> 00:39:45,733
Speaker 4: did ever at university. But yes, I just love I

846
00:39:45,893 --> 00:39:48,773
Speaker 4: just love reading and learning now. But it's you reach

847
00:39:48,813 --> 00:39:50,733
Speaker 4: a stage in life where you can even if you

848
00:39:50,773 --> 00:39:52,933
Speaker 4: didn't go to university, then you can widen your mind

849
00:39:52,973 --> 00:39:53,453
Speaker 4: at any time.

850
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Speaker 3: Would you ever go back to Uni? Yeah? Hell yeah, yes,

851
00:39:57,053 --> 00:39:59,053
Speaker 3: good god, yeah hell yeah.

852
00:39:59,093 --> 00:40:03,173
Speaker 4: Baron wines Stein Party, Tiger Parties, It's go frat party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, best years of my life. Oh wait, one hundred

854
00:40:05,693 --> 00:40:07,573
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We're

855
00:40:07,573 --> 00:40:09,693
Speaker 2: going to change tech after two o'clock. We want to

856
00:40:09,693 --> 00:40:13,172
Speaker 2: talk about social media and children under sixteen. That's coming

857
00:40:13,253 --> 00:40:15,613
Speaker 2: up very shortly. Nine two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 2: number you're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very very good

859
00:40:17,653 --> 00:40:18,293
Speaker 2: afternoon to you.

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Speaker 7: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zibby Good afternoons seven past two.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Friday.

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Speaker 4: My favorite day of the week on Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 3: I'm up three to one against you. Was it something

875
00:41:00,533 --> 00:41:02,813
Speaker 3: to do with the Amish? Yeah, because did you see

876
00:41:02,853 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 3: that footage of the Amish.

877
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:06,133
Speaker 4: They haven't voted for a long time in Pennsylvania, but

878
00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:09,093
Speaker 4: they were racing to the polls and their wagons for

879
00:41:09,693 --> 00:41:12,773
Speaker 4: American flags out the back. It was quite an iconic image.

880
00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:15,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to love the Armish, right that is

881
00:41:15,253 --> 00:41:16,133
Speaker 2: after three thirty.

882
00:41:16,173 --> 00:41:18,853
Speaker 3: But right now, yeah, so you might have read this.

883
00:41:18,973 --> 00:41:22,093
Speaker 4: Australia's Prime minister has vowed to ban children under sixteen

884
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:25,373
Speaker 4: from social media, saying that the pervasive influence of platforms

885
00:41:25,413 --> 00:41:29,133
Speaker 4: like Facebook and TikTok is doing real harm to our kids.

886
00:41:29,173 --> 00:41:31,813
Speaker 4: The tech giants would be held responsible from forcing the

887
00:41:31,893 --> 00:41:35,853
Speaker 4: age limit and face fifty fines if regulators noticed young

888
00:41:36,053 --> 00:41:44,053
Speaker 4: users slipping through the cracks. So right now, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram,

889
00:41:45,453 --> 00:41:46,533
Speaker 4: thirteen and over.

890
00:41:47,533 --> 00:41:48,333
Speaker 3: But it's very.

891
00:41:48,253 --> 00:41:50,853
Speaker 4: Easy for people, it's very easy for kids to get

892
00:41:50,853 --> 00:41:53,692
Speaker 4: around there. Yeah, I mean, I mean, any kid, any

893
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:56,613
Speaker 4: kid that's thirteen is tech heavy enough to just lie

894
00:41:56,653 --> 00:42:00,333
Speaker 4: about their birthday and get on there. And the tech

895
00:42:00,413 --> 00:42:03,253
Speaker 4: companies they don't really care. I mean that they are.

896
00:42:03,293 --> 00:42:06,293
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest. The social media companies are

897
00:42:06,693 --> 00:42:09,453
Speaker 4: evil organizations. They just want to steal your time. They

898
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:12,093
Speaker 4: don't they have no interest in trying to keep young

899
00:42:12,133 --> 00:42:15,053
Speaker 4: people off. But would you support that eight hundred and

900
00:42:15,093 --> 00:42:17,853
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty Would you support us in New Zealand

901
00:42:18,133 --> 00:42:21,133
Speaker 4: trying to stop kids under sixteen getting on social media?

902
00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:23,853
Speaker 4: There's no doubt when you read about it that it's

903
00:42:23,973 --> 00:42:26,292
Speaker 4: doing terrible damage to the mental health of young people,

904
00:42:26,373 --> 00:42:31,453
Speaker 4: doing terrible damage to their attention span. But is it

905
00:42:31,533 --> 00:42:33,813
Speaker 4: even practical to try and do that? And if you're

906
00:42:33,813 --> 00:42:36,652
Speaker 4: ap pearents, do you how do you keep your kids?

907
00:42:36,653 --> 00:42:38,613
Speaker 4: If you've decided that they need to say social media,

908
00:42:38,653 --> 00:42:41,253
Speaker 4: how do you keep them off? Because I believe that

909
00:42:41,373 --> 00:42:44,333
Speaker 4: in this all the kids are off. Then it's very

910
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:47,013
Speaker 4: hard on the kids that are that are off, you

911
00:42:47,093 --> 00:42:49,413
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because they get they get cut

912
00:42:49,453 --> 00:42:51,253
Speaker 4: out of the social group and they feel like they've

913
00:42:51,293 --> 00:42:52,933
Speaker 4: got terrible pomo forar of missing out.

914
00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:56,772
Speaker 3: It's a complex one. I'm not sure how you could

915
00:42:56,853 --> 00:42:57,333
Speaker 3: enforce it.

916
00:42:58,253 --> 00:43:01,573
Speaker 4: And you know the interesting thing in places like New Zealand,

917
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:03,973
Speaker 4: if you if you make a really really strong dictate

918
00:43:04,053 --> 00:43:07,973
Speaker 4: to a tech company like Facebook, like Meta, then they're

919
00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:08,333
Speaker 4: just going to.

920
00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:10,253
Speaker 2: But I need you, we'll leave New Zealand.

921
00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:10,613
Speaker 8: Yeah.

922
00:43:11,253 --> 00:43:11,973
Speaker 3: Be a bad thing though.

923
00:43:12,093 --> 00:43:13,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well what did you do as a father? I

924
00:43:13,693 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 2: mean you've got fairly young boys.

925
00:43:16,653 --> 00:43:20,053
Speaker 4: Well I think I was really lucky because controversially my

926
00:43:20,253 --> 00:43:24,333
Speaker 4: kids intermediate school here in Auckland banned them from being

927
00:43:24,453 --> 00:43:25,733
Speaker 4: on social media.

928
00:43:26,653 --> 00:43:27,973
Speaker 3: In school and out of school.

929
00:43:28,813 --> 00:43:31,133
Speaker 4: So they made it quite clear all the parents you

930
00:43:31,173 --> 00:43:33,213
Speaker 4: went allowed and as a result, all the kids weren't

931
00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:34,172
Speaker 4: on social.

932
00:43:33,893 --> 00:43:35,133
Speaker 3: Media and that was really good.

933
00:43:35,173 --> 00:43:37,253
Speaker 4: They had the gap up to thirteen where they weren't

934
00:43:37,293 --> 00:43:40,973
Speaker 4: on social media and I think that really really helped them.

935
00:43:41,413 --> 00:43:43,733
Speaker 4: In fact, we had a kid that was this is

936
00:43:43,733 --> 00:43:46,693
Speaker 4: all annoyed people and it was just luck. But because

937
00:43:46,733 --> 00:43:50,093
Speaker 4: we needed to call out my son. Yeah, he just

938
00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:52,413
Speaker 4: would never have his phone on or charged up till

939
00:43:52,413 --> 00:43:56,172
Speaker 4: about the age of fifteen because it never really hit him. Now,

940
00:43:56,693 --> 00:43:58,613
Speaker 4: boy boy, now it's now it's become a struggle to

941
00:43:58,653 --> 00:43:59,413
Speaker 4: get them off the phone.

942
00:43:59,493 --> 00:43:59,652
Speaker 10: Yeah.

943
00:44:00,013 --> 00:44:02,493
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of parents are buying their kids teenagers

944
00:44:02,773 --> 00:44:05,893
Speaker 2: dumb phones, right, the old Nokias or the cheaper phones

945
00:44:05,893 --> 00:44:08,693
Speaker 2: that you can buy that do not have ready access

946
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:12,413
Speaker 2: or easy access to things like Facebook, Instagram. That to

947
00:44:12,533 --> 00:44:15,172
Speaker 2: me seems like not a bad option, but you've still

948
00:44:15,213 --> 00:44:18,013
Speaker 2: got the problem of being excluded from your social group.

949
00:44:18,093 --> 00:44:21,253
Speaker 2: If they are all on TikTok and Instagram and Facebook

950
00:44:21,253 --> 00:44:23,613
Speaker 2: and laughing at these videos and being amongst the memes

951
00:44:23,653 --> 00:44:25,373
Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing, which is a massive

952
00:44:25,373 --> 00:44:27,533
Speaker 2: part of culture. Now, then that kid with the dumb

953
00:44:27,813 --> 00:44:30,413
Speaker 2: phone is still excluded from that group, aren't they.

954
00:44:30,973 --> 00:44:34,212
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is interesting. My kids talk about brain rot

955
00:44:34,693 --> 00:44:37,453
Speaker 4: from their phone as well. They're actually aware how bad

956
00:44:37,493 --> 00:44:40,013
Speaker 4: it is for them, the doom scrolling. And I have

957
00:44:40,133 --> 00:44:41,693
Speaker 4: said to them, we'll just get a dumb phone so

958
00:44:41,773 --> 00:44:43,493
Speaker 4: you can't do it. We'll just get your dumb phone.

959
00:44:43,533 --> 00:44:47,613
Speaker 4: But they're not willing to do that, but anyone, you know,

960
00:44:47,773 --> 00:44:50,373
Speaker 4: we will wish we were with such powerful parents we

961
00:44:50,413 --> 00:44:52,893
Speaker 4: could demand our kids and control them to do what

962
00:44:53,053 --> 00:44:56,253
Speaker 4: they do and keep them off these phones. It's very,

963
00:44:56,613 --> 00:44:59,613
Speaker 4: very hard to do in practicality, and you may think

964
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:01,013
Speaker 4: that you can do it when you're ten, but it's

965
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:03,013
Speaker 4: a very when they're ten. It's a very different thing

966
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:07,333
Speaker 4: when they hit fourteen. So some kind of government regulation

967
00:45:07,733 --> 00:45:11,893
Speaker 4: on it, some kind of whatever the plan is, would

968
00:45:11,933 --> 00:45:13,813
Speaker 4: you support it? Eight two hundred and eighty and eighty

969
00:45:13,893 --> 00:45:15,533
Speaker 4: Is it even possible. And what are you doing to

970
00:45:15,973 --> 00:45:18,213
Speaker 4: regulate your kids' social media access?

971
00:45:18,333 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 2: Yep, get on the phones. Let's have a chat about it.

972
00:45:20,213 --> 00:45:22,573
Speaker 2: It is eleven past too. You're listening to Matt and

973
00:45:22,613 --> 00:45:23,453
Speaker 2: Tyler Good Afternoon.

974
00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:28,493
Speaker 1: You're on new home of Afternoon Talk and even Tyler

975
00:45:28,573 --> 00:45:31,772
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon Call. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

976
00:45:31,973 --> 00:45:32,933
Speaker 1: News Talk said, be.

977
00:45:34,253 --> 00:45:36,652
Speaker 2: It's fourteen pass two. We're talking about Australia. They are

978
00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:40,252
Speaker 2: looking at trying to ban social media for anybody under

979
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:41,693
Speaker 2: sixteen years of age.

980
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:44,373
Speaker 3: Will it make much different? Plenty of texts coming through.

981
00:45:44,733 --> 00:45:46,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great one from Chanelle here, Good Afternoon.

982
00:45:46,853 --> 00:45:49,053
Speaker 4: In order for the kids to come off social media, ultimately,

983
00:45:49,093 --> 00:45:51,013
Speaker 4: the parents need to come off social media. Parents and

984
00:45:51,133 --> 00:45:53,413
Speaker 4: not enforcing this in many cases as they don't want

985
00:45:53,413 --> 00:45:55,293
Speaker 4: to change their own behaviors to set the example. And

986
00:45:55,333 --> 00:45:57,133
Speaker 4: I've seen this and I've been guilty of this as well.

987
00:45:57,413 --> 00:45:59,173
Speaker 4: You're worried about your kids being on the phone, but

988
00:45:59,253 --> 00:46:01,373
Speaker 4: you're on your phone in front of them, so it's

989
00:46:01,413 --> 00:46:02,293
Speaker 4: a terrible example.

990
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:03,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to God.

991
00:46:04,093 --> 00:46:05,813
Speaker 4: I can't remember his name, actually I'll look it up.

992
00:46:05,813 --> 00:46:07,133
Speaker 4: But he's just written a book on it he's the

993
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:09,333
Speaker 4: next police officer, but he was too looking about the

994
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:13,053
Speaker 4: best way to get Kazov phones is to say to them,

995
00:46:14,053 --> 00:46:16,573
Speaker 4: when do you think you'll have time to come and

996
00:46:16,653 --> 00:46:18,773
Speaker 4: talk to me? Instead of telling them get off the phone,

997
00:46:19,093 --> 00:46:20,613
Speaker 4: when do you think you'll have time to come and

998
00:46:20,693 --> 00:46:21,093
Speaker 4: have dinner.

999
00:46:21,093 --> 00:46:21,933
Speaker 2: It's a nice way to do it.

1000
00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:24,813
Speaker 4: So what that does is it means instead of them

1001
00:46:24,893 --> 00:46:27,973
Speaker 4: getting the negative feeling of having to put their phone down,

1002
00:46:28,453 --> 00:46:33,853
Speaker 4: they get the positive hit and an affirmation of choosing

1003
00:46:34,413 --> 00:46:36,813
Speaker 4: to put the phone down, which he claimed.

1004
00:46:36,853 --> 00:46:38,573
Speaker 3: And I'll lock up the book because it's such a

1005
00:46:38,613 --> 00:46:40,533
Speaker 3: really good book. I've just read it.

1006
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:45,413
Speaker 4: You get the they it's a very different experience for them.

1007
00:46:45,493 --> 00:46:47,573
Speaker 4: So they've made the choice to do the right thing

1008
00:46:48,053 --> 00:46:52,212
Speaker 4: and as a result, in their brains, they they get

1009
00:46:52,253 --> 00:46:54,413
Speaker 4: a buzz from that, and then that makes them want

1010
00:46:54,413 --> 00:46:56,413
Speaker 4: to do it more. As opposed to if you demand

1011
00:46:56,493 --> 00:46:58,653
Speaker 4: they get off the phone, they immediately get the negative

1012
00:46:58,693 --> 00:47:00,212
Speaker 4: feeling and they have the desire for the phone.

1013
00:47:00,213 --> 00:47:02,212
Speaker 2: You're trying to trigger the same thing that social media

1014
00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:02,733
Speaker 2: is triggering.

1015
00:47:02,813 --> 00:47:05,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're triggering a positive They've made a positive

1016
00:47:05,053 --> 00:47:06,453
Speaker 4: decision to get off the phone. So when you think

1017
00:47:06,453 --> 00:47:07,813
Speaker 4: you're going to get off the phone. When do you

1018
00:47:07,853 --> 00:47:09,253
Speaker 4: think you'd have moment to come and talk to me

1019
00:47:09,293 --> 00:47:09,973
Speaker 4: about this?

1020
00:47:10,293 --> 00:47:11,333
Speaker 2: It's a great strategy.

1021
00:47:11,493 --> 00:47:13,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I look up who the guy was. But

1022
00:47:13,733 --> 00:47:14,732
Speaker 3: it's a very interesting book.

1023
00:47:14,893 --> 00:47:19,013
Speaker 2: Just on your own social media usage? Do you have

1024
00:47:19,173 --> 00:47:21,933
Speaker 2: you tried to reduce that over let's say the past

1025
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:25,172
Speaker 2: ten years. Have you tried to get off social media?

1026
00:47:25,213 --> 00:47:27,613
Speaker 2: Do you think it does good things for you? Matt,

1027
00:47:29,293 --> 00:47:30,613
Speaker 2: sorry social media?

1028
00:47:30,693 --> 00:47:31,133
Speaker 3: Have you tried?

1029
00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:33,173
Speaker 2: Have you tried to reduce how how much time you

1030
00:47:33,253 --> 00:47:36,133
Speaker 2: spend on social media massively? It's hard as it is,

1031
00:47:36,373 --> 00:47:38,093
Speaker 2: It is hard, and I wonder it's hard for kids.

1032
00:47:38,253 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 3: It is so addictive.

1033
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:42,053
Speaker 4: You have the resource of the biggest tech and richest

1034
00:47:42,093 --> 00:47:44,933
Speaker 4: companies that have ever existed, and because of technology and

1035
00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:48,653
Speaker 4: how it works, they can they can focus their resources

1036
00:47:48,693 --> 00:47:52,573
Speaker 4: on every individual person like they were focused resources on

1037
00:47:52,893 --> 00:47:55,413
Speaker 4: on on everyone at once because they have that resources.

1038
00:47:55,493 --> 00:48:01,093
Speaker 4: So the smartest and most well smartest and richest companies

1039
00:48:01,173 --> 00:48:04,013
Speaker 4: world doing everything they can can can to get you on.

1040
00:48:04,213 --> 00:48:07,053
Speaker 3: Every part of social media is designed to be addictive.

1041
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:08,813
Speaker 2: And I know that's the case when I'm at home

1042
00:48:08,893 --> 00:48:11,493
Speaker 2: and I've tried to get off Facebook, tried to get

1043
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:14,133
Speaker 2: off Instagram. I'm not on TikTok, and thank god for that,

1044
00:48:14,853 --> 00:48:17,773
Speaker 2: but I need more, you know where less. They call

1045
00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:19,453
Speaker 2: it the doom scrolling when you sit on the couch

1046
00:48:19,493 --> 00:48:21,453
Speaker 2: and I need another hat, I need another video, I

1047
00:48:21,573 --> 00:48:25,693
Speaker 2: need another something to entertain me because I can't spend

1048
00:48:25,973 --> 00:48:29,093
Speaker 2: three seconds without some sort of information hitting me. That

1049
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:32,732
Speaker 2: is it's incredibly addictive, and you've got to really make

1050
00:48:32,773 --> 00:48:34,813
Speaker 2: an effort to pull yourself away from that, and said,

1051
00:48:34,933 --> 00:48:35,533
Speaker 2: what am I doing.

1052
00:48:35,573 --> 00:48:37,533
Speaker 3: I'm going to go walk the dog, get outside, smell

1053
00:48:37,613 --> 00:48:37,933
Speaker 3: the grass.

1054
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 4: Well, it's like Jonathan Hyde said, and a great American

1055
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:45,253
Speaker 4: writer and professor. He was saying that the feeling that

1056
00:48:45,333 --> 00:48:48,173
Speaker 4: people most when you ask how you feel when you

1057
00:48:48,253 --> 00:48:50,493
Speaker 4: get off social media, the feeling most people have is regret.

1058
00:48:50,773 --> 00:48:51,533
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1059
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:57,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you're doing something that creates that feeling in you.

1060
00:48:57,213 --> 00:48:59,413
Speaker 3: But it's so addictive that you go back. Yeah, you

1061
00:48:59,493 --> 00:49:01,213
Speaker 3: go back. I mean I have a problem with it.

1062
00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:03,652
Speaker 4: And you know, around the US election, I was sort

1063
00:49:03,693 --> 00:49:07,373
Speaker 4: of dealing with my addiction to social media, and I'm

1064
00:49:07,413 --> 00:49:09,053
Speaker 4: not really as bad as there's a lot of people

1065
00:49:09,293 --> 00:49:10,893
Speaker 4: out there, A lot of a lot of my friends

1066
00:49:10,933 --> 00:49:13,373
Speaker 4: that tell about it, but I just got dragged into

1067
00:49:13,693 --> 00:49:17,813
Speaker 4: X so bad during the and I'd find myself looking

1068
00:49:17,893 --> 00:49:22,253
Speaker 4: for excuses to go. You know, I'd be like, I

1069
00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:23,653
Speaker 4: need to go on there to check the news, just

1070
00:49:23,813 --> 00:49:25,453
Speaker 4: to research for my show, but really I was just

1071
00:49:25,493 --> 00:49:27,373
Speaker 4: going on there to get the social media hit.

1072
00:49:27,533 --> 00:49:27,732
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1073
00:49:27,773 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 2: I've just had a quick look at my own screen

1074
00:49:29,573 --> 00:49:33,573
Speaker 2: time over the last week. Four hours and nineteen minutes

1075
00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:36,373
Speaker 2: on Facebook and a week. To me, that's a lot.

1076
00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:38,732
Speaker 3: That is a lot. Yeah, you would, but you would

1077
00:49:38,733 --> 00:49:42,292
Speaker 3: be massively at the lower end of what young people

1078
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:42,573
Speaker 3: are on.

1079
00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:47,013
Speaker 2: Well Instagram, Yeah, seven hours and seventeen minutes wow, and.

1080
00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:49,253
Speaker 4: A week and a week. Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what.

1081
00:49:49,293 --> 00:49:50,973
Speaker 4: There's people that are getting those numbers in a day.

1082
00:49:51,333 --> 00:49:51,533
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1083
00:49:51,613 --> 00:49:53,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, very And as I said, I told you the

1084
00:49:53,293 --> 00:49:56,853
Speaker 4: other day, I was at the gym doing a spin class,

1085
00:49:56,893 --> 00:50:00,133
Speaker 4: the cycle class, and you go really really hard and

1086
00:50:00,213 --> 00:50:01,533
Speaker 4: then you have a rest bit where you go a

1087
00:50:01,573 --> 00:50:04,172
Speaker 4: bit slower just to rest. And there was this woman

1088
00:50:04,253 --> 00:50:06,373
Speaker 4: beside me. In every rest she'd go and just scroll

1089
00:50:06,413 --> 00:50:09,133
Speaker 4: through Instagram, not looking up anything, just scroll through Instagram

1090
00:50:09,253 --> 00:50:11,732
Speaker 4: and the rest. So every five minutes she was having

1091
00:50:11,773 --> 00:50:13,013
Speaker 4: to go, even in the spin class, just.

1092
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:14,573
Speaker 2: Needed that facts. Bruce, how are you?

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Speaker 13: Hey, I'm good, thank you?

1094
00:50:17,373 --> 00:50:19,013
Speaker 2: You know, mate, Now, what's your take on this one?

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00:50:20,493 --> 00:50:23,533
Speaker 13: Well, I mean I'm sort of early thirties at the moment,

1096
00:50:23,653 --> 00:50:27,293
Speaker 13: and a lot of my friends have just celebrated their

1097
00:50:27,973 --> 00:50:29,173
Speaker 13: ninety second birthday on.

1098
00:50:29,213 --> 00:50:30,893
Speaker 6: Facebook, right yep.

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00:50:32,373 --> 00:50:35,333
Speaker 13: Because yeah, obviously you know you have to be a

1100
00:50:35,413 --> 00:50:38,093
Speaker 13: certain age to get on a Facebook account. Yeah, but

1101
00:50:38,853 --> 00:50:40,933
Speaker 13: you know that's pretty easy to circumvent at the moment,

1102
00:50:40,973 --> 00:50:41,533
Speaker 13: isn't it really?

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00:50:42,053 --> 00:50:42,252
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1104
00:50:42,773 --> 00:50:44,973
Speaker 2: And so would you be, you know, someone in their

1105
00:50:45,173 --> 00:50:48,173
Speaker 2: early thirties. Do you struggle to reduce the time on

1106
00:50:48,293 --> 00:50:48,933
Speaker 2: social media?

1107
00:50:49,093 --> 00:50:49,973
Speaker 3: Do you get that?

1108
00:50:50,253 --> 00:50:52,373
Speaker 2: You know, it is quite an addictive thing and you

1109
00:50:52,493 --> 00:50:54,373
Speaker 2: get into that doom scrolling like a lot of people.

1110
00:50:55,693 --> 00:50:58,732
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's just like you go skip

1111
00:50:58,773 --> 00:51:02,293
Speaker 13: saying there's so much information, Like I end up going

1112
00:51:02,373 --> 00:51:06,133
Speaker 13: down rabbit holes, you know, finding out I read an

1113
00:51:06,173 --> 00:51:08,533
Speaker 13: article about this, and then you end up scrolling on

1114
00:51:08,613 --> 00:51:11,693
Speaker 13: Facebook to find out if anyone knows anything about it

1115
00:51:11,853 --> 00:51:15,493
Speaker 13: and all that sort of, you know, just rabbit holing constantly,

1116
00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:18,253
Speaker 13: and then I'm four hours later, I'm still on the internet,

1117
00:51:18,293 --> 00:51:18,413
Speaker 13: you know.

1118
00:51:18,773 --> 00:51:23,013
Speaker 4: M I mean, if you're reading stuff, then I don't

1119
00:51:23,013 --> 00:51:25,133
Speaker 4: think it's bad if you're reading and learning stuff as

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00:51:25,173 --> 00:51:27,853
Speaker 4: long as that stuff has some accuracy to it, as

1121
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:30,573
Speaker 4: opposed to just looking of pictures, because I think Instagram

1122
00:51:30,733 --> 00:51:32,813
Speaker 4: is pretty bad and TikTok's a pretty bad as well.

1123
00:51:33,053 --> 00:51:35,133
Speaker 4: But on Instagram you'll just look at pictures of having

1124
00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:39,013
Speaker 4: people just pictures. It's like it's firing off some kind

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00:51:39,053 --> 00:51:42,413
Speaker 4: of evolutionary social things, so you feel like socializing, but

1126
00:51:42,493 --> 00:51:45,212
Speaker 4: you're just seeing pictures of people doing very mundane things,

1127
00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:47,493
Speaker 4: people out having a drink, people at the beach, just

1128
00:51:47,573 --> 00:51:50,692
Speaker 4: going over. At least if you're reading Bruce, you might

1129
00:51:50,813 --> 00:51:53,373
Speaker 4: be learning something. Your brain might actually be active.

1130
00:51:54,453 --> 00:51:56,693
Speaker 13: Yeah, whether it's good stuff to learn or not, I

1131
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:57,573
Speaker 13: guess that's another thing.

1132
00:51:58,093 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1133
00:51:58,773 --> 00:52:01,013
Speaker 2: Well, I find myself, I mean in the news game

1134
00:52:01,093 --> 00:52:04,053
Speaker 2: as we are, particularly over the US election, and I

1135
00:52:04,213 --> 00:52:06,573
Speaker 2: wasn't even reading articles. I was just trying to find

1136
00:52:06,733 --> 00:52:08,933
Speaker 2: something to that I would find it detaining. But I

1137
00:52:09,093 --> 00:52:12,413
Speaker 2: was going to Fox News, CNN, back to the Herold,

1138
00:52:12,493 --> 00:52:15,773
Speaker 2: then The Atlantic over and over and over again, thinking

1139
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:18,013
Speaker 2: what am I doing. I'm not even reading articles here.

1140
00:52:18,093 --> 00:52:21,133
Speaker 2: I just needed more fixed, more information for me, And

1141
00:52:21,333 --> 00:52:23,573
Speaker 2: I know that that's bad, but it's incredibly difficult.

1142
00:52:23,573 --> 00:52:24,053
Speaker 3: You're addict.

1143
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:27,333
Speaker 4: The thing is we've just got to admit and look,

1144
00:52:27,373 --> 00:52:31,413
Speaker 4: we're adults and we're talking about kids. But if we can't,

1145
00:52:31,493 --> 00:52:34,613
Speaker 4: if we can't fight it as adults, how is a

1146
00:52:35,173 --> 00:52:37,813
Speaker 4: thirteen year old going to fight the addiction?

1147
00:52:38,653 --> 00:52:39,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.

1148
00:52:39,253 --> 00:52:40,893
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're a

1149
00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:42,773
Speaker 2: parent out there, what have you done to try and

1150
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:45,333
Speaker 2: get your kids to limit social media? Are you worried

1151
00:52:45,333 --> 00:52:47,373
Speaker 2: about what it's doing to their brain? Nine two ninety

1152
00:52:47,373 --> 00:52:50,652
Speaker 2: two is the text number. It is twenty one past two.

1153
00:52:55,533 --> 00:52:59,493
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten.

1154
00:52:59,453 --> 00:53:01,973
Speaker 3: Eighty on news Talk said the twenty four past two.

1155
00:53:02,093 --> 00:53:04,253
Speaker 4: We're looking for help out there. Have you managed to

1156
00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:06,373
Speaker 4: get your kids off social media? Have you managed to

1157
00:53:06,413 --> 00:53:07,732
Speaker 4: get yourself off social media?

1158
00:53:07,773 --> 00:53:08,973
Speaker 3: How do you do it? How did you do it?

1159
00:53:10,013 --> 00:53:13,173
Speaker 4: And if you're struggling with it, you know, we'd just

1160
00:53:13,213 --> 00:53:16,652
Speaker 4: love to hear from you and your experience with what's

1161
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,533
Speaker 4: is doing. This is on the back of the Australian

1162
00:53:19,573 --> 00:53:24,692
Speaker 4: government looking at restricting social media to under to over

1163
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:28,373
Speaker 4: sixteen and putting severe fines on social media companies that

1164
00:53:28,453 --> 00:53:32,413
Speaker 4: don't enforce this interesting text here we were talking about

1165
00:53:32,453 --> 00:53:34,573
Speaker 4: the dumb phones before this sounds like you guys haven't

1166
00:53:34,573 --> 00:53:36,213
Speaker 4: bought the phones you were talking about. I bought a

1167
00:53:36,253 --> 00:53:38,333
Speaker 4: twenty nine dollars phone from the warehouse as a punishment

1168
00:53:38,373 --> 00:53:39,893
Speaker 4: for my daughter, and it's still had access to a

1169
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:42,613
Speaker 4: good number of social media already set up on the

1170
00:53:42,693 --> 00:53:44,652
Speaker 4: home screen. We're actually talking about these phones that are

1171
00:53:44,813 --> 00:53:48,533
Speaker 4: specifically dumb phones. There's one I'm looking at here called

1172
00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:50,493
Speaker 4: Big Buttons at Big Buttons, dot co, do and zed

1173
00:53:50,693 --> 00:53:53,653
Speaker 4: and it's a flip phone and it's got big buttons,

1174
00:53:53,773 --> 00:53:58,533
Speaker 4: SOS button that alerts emergency contact, sends SMS. No contract,

1175
00:53:59,173 --> 00:54:01,333
Speaker 4: no three G or four G. You can't get three

1176
00:54:01,413 --> 00:54:03,453
Speaker 4: G or four G. So it's got volume. It's got

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00:54:03,493 --> 00:54:05,933
Speaker 4: a clock, it's got a camera, it's got speed dial.

1178
00:54:06,013 --> 00:54:07,773
Speaker 4: But you cannot get on the internet, to get on

1179
00:54:07,853 --> 00:54:08,973
Speaker 4: social media on these phones.

1180
00:54:09,013 --> 00:54:09,733
Speaker 2: Has it got snake?

1181
00:54:10,733 --> 00:54:12,773
Speaker 4: It doesn't say whether it's got snake or not, though,

1182
00:54:12,813 --> 00:54:15,333
Speaker 4: but to bring back snake, it's a it's a great game.

1183
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:17,373
Speaker 3: Although it has four hundred dollars.

1184
00:54:18,773 --> 00:54:22,453
Speaker 2: Bucks for a dumb phone, you're paying for hunter.

1185
00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:27,133
Speaker 3: Bucks to limit what it can do. That's a sad

1186
00:54:27,293 --> 00:54:29,253
Speaker 3: isn't it. I don't know. It looks pretty cool. It's

1187
00:54:29,293 --> 00:54:30,813
Speaker 3: a flip phone as well, so you just shut it.

1188
00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:31,933
Speaker 3: What's it called? Big button?

1189
00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1190
00:54:32,333 --> 00:54:34,533
Speaker 3: Big buttons? Yeah, Doc Curtains. I'm not sure.

1191
00:54:34,573 --> 00:54:36,133
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it. I'm just looking at

1192
00:54:36,133 --> 00:54:38,293
Speaker 4: the reviews. I mean, how do you review something that

1193
00:54:38,373 --> 00:54:41,652
Speaker 4: can't do much? It's great, it's great, it's rubbish, Peter,

1194
00:54:41,853 --> 00:54:42,253
Speaker 4: how are you.

1195
00:54:43,853 --> 00:54:45,053
Speaker 9: Flip that phone.

1196
00:54:44,853 --> 00:54:49,093
Speaker 6: Straight into the rubbish? Don't need for it. I've got

1197
00:54:49,173 --> 00:54:54,973
Speaker 6: a year old daughter and I My thing is I

1198
00:54:55,213 --> 00:54:57,493
Speaker 6: brought the phone, so I got here to sign a

1199
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:03,813
Speaker 6: parental contract. Her mother and I can view that phone

1200
00:55:03,853 --> 00:55:07,053
Speaker 6: at any time, and if there's content on there that's inappropriate,

1201
00:55:07,533 --> 00:55:12,493
Speaker 6: she loses the use of her phone. And I've always

1202
00:55:12,653 --> 00:55:16,933
Speaker 6: kind of come from the point of if if she

1203
00:55:17,133 --> 00:55:19,533
Speaker 6: doesn't think that her mother and I can view it,

1204
00:55:19,693 --> 00:55:23,533
Speaker 6: then don't post it. And yeah, then it kind of

1205
00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:25,772
Speaker 6: takes away the cigaret. There's stuff on there that I've

1206
00:55:25,813 --> 00:55:28,453
Speaker 6: seen on the phone that is kind of borderline when

1207
00:55:28,493 --> 00:55:31,573
Speaker 6: I've gone to check it. But most of the time

1208
00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:37,333
Speaker 6: it's just normal young female bs. You know that little

1209
00:55:37,373 --> 00:55:40,853
Speaker 6: bit of teasing here and there again, threat you sleep

1210
00:55:40,893 --> 00:55:43,213
Speaker 6: paper and one isn't, so they all pile on the

1211
00:55:43,293 --> 00:55:46,653
Speaker 6: other one and do crank calls and a lot of

1212
00:55:46,733 --> 00:55:52,893
Speaker 6: it's just really random, just crap. I'm kinda like I

1213
00:55:52,973 --> 00:55:55,652
Speaker 6: don't have Instagram. I have TikTok on there, don't even

1214
00:55:55,733 --> 00:55:59,653
Speaker 6: use it. And I think the other option that works

1215
00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:03,533
Speaker 6: is given them involved in sport where they don't and

1216
00:56:03,773 --> 00:56:06,333
Speaker 6: aren't on their phone twenty four to seven yelays and

1217
00:56:06,853 --> 00:56:10,093
Speaker 6: there's two hours away as they have to play footsal

1218
00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:16,013
Speaker 6: or swimming or training. But also needed the boat because

1219
00:56:16,493 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 6: most of them communicate on the heja or what stuff,

1220
00:56:20,213 --> 00:56:23,053
Speaker 6: and which is quite good because you know, you can

1221
00:56:23,453 --> 00:56:26,133
Speaker 6: come up all with the other parents and it's good.

1222
00:56:26,213 --> 00:56:29,373
Speaker 6: But I think at the end of the day, outset

1223
00:56:29,453 --> 00:56:31,933
Speaker 6: as parents have to pull up, pull up our socks

1224
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:35,293
Speaker 6: and do the work, and it is hard, and it

1225
00:56:35,373 --> 00:56:39,333
Speaker 6: has been consistent and is kind of laying the ground

1226
00:56:39,413 --> 00:56:41,893
Speaker 6: rules down at the very beginning that Peter.

1227
00:56:41,813 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 4: Speaking of your ground rules, so you say about the content,

1228
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:46,613
Speaker 4: she can look at your daughter and it sounds like

1229
00:56:46,613 --> 00:56:49,093
Speaker 4: you're doing a great job there. What about the length

1230
00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:50,453
Speaker 4: of time on social media?

1231
00:56:50,533 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 3: Do you monto that? Have you got any rules about

1232
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:54,013
Speaker 3: how long she's allowed to be on.

1233
00:56:55,373 --> 00:56:58,293
Speaker 6: I didn't right up until the point she went to college.

1234
00:56:58,333 --> 00:57:01,093
Speaker 6: I used to switch the Wi Fi off every night

1235
00:57:02,573 --> 00:57:05,933
Speaker 6: and it sucked for me too. But what she didn't

1236
00:57:05,973 --> 00:57:07,692
Speaker 6: know at the time is I had a work train

1237
00:57:07,813 --> 00:57:16,173
Speaker 6: time just to data it works, and the college is

1238
00:57:16,173 --> 00:57:18,653
Speaker 6: a little bit different. You know what you're saying about

1239
00:57:18,693 --> 00:57:21,773
Speaker 6: the little friend groups and that they can't be ostracized

1240
00:57:21,813 --> 00:57:24,413
Speaker 6: and all that, and they do need those friend groups.

1241
00:57:24,453 --> 00:57:28,013
Speaker 6: But we've had a couple of meltdowns. There's, like I said,

1242
00:57:28,013 --> 00:57:31,573
Speaker 6: there's been some content that I don't like. She's in

1243
00:57:31,653 --> 00:57:33,853
Speaker 6: the bedroom next to mine, so I know she's on

1244
00:57:33,973 --> 00:57:36,173
Speaker 6: her phone, and a few times I've gone up and

1245
00:57:36,653 --> 00:57:37,373
Speaker 6: opened the door.

1246
00:57:38,653 --> 00:57:41,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have big blow ups?

1247
00:57:41,413 --> 00:57:43,893
Speaker 4: Because that's the other thing people when they when the

1248
00:57:44,013 --> 00:57:45,973
Speaker 4: kids are little, they go, I'll be able to control them.

1249
00:57:46,013 --> 00:57:49,253
Speaker 4: But when a kid gets a teenager becomes teenagers, they

1250
00:57:49,373 --> 00:57:53,853
Speaker 4: are forces of nature. And I've got friends that have

1251
00:57:53,933 --> 00:57:58,533
Speaker 4: teenage daughters that that they're just it's it's destroying them

1252
00:57:58,613 --> 00:58:00,693
Speaker 4: the fight that they're having. And this is just teenage

1253
00:58:00,733 --> 00:58:02,533
Speaker 4: daughters teenage boys as well, of course, but I'm just

1254
00:58:02,573 --> 00:58:05,853
Speaker 4: thinking about a couple of examples here, and that fight

1255
00:58:06,333 --> 00:58:10,813
Speaker 4: it's it's more stressful than they're job. So with your daughter,

1256
00:58:11,013 --> 00:58:13,493
Speaker 4: did it become a fight? Did it become become a

1257
00:58:13,653 --> 00:58:14,613
Speaker 4: huge part of your life?

1258
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:16,453
Speaker 18: Not?

1259
00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:21,413
Speaker 6: Not really, because we started that that contract, so to speak,

1260
00:58:21,573 --> 00:58:24,173
Speaker 6: from the very beginning. You don't own that phone. I'm

1261
00:58:24,253 --> 00:58:29,213
Speaker 6: giving you that phone, so therefore we have an open contract.

1262
00:58:29,253 --> 00:58:31,733
Speaker 6: I can review it. And I've taken a phone over here.

1263
00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:34,733
Speaker 6: Mother's taking a phone over and cheapers over that period

1264
00:58:34,773 --> 00:58:38,493
Speaker 6: that the phone was gone. It was what you said

1265
00:58:38,533 --> 00:58:41,813
Speaker 6: it was murder was you've got a selfish teenager in

1266
00:58:41,893 --> 00:58:44,333
Speaker 6: the house. That's for refusing to do anything. Blah blah blah.

1267
00:58:44,453 --> 00:58:51,933
Speaker 6: But the time between concersation differ. Removing the phone from

1268
00:58:52,373 --> 00:58:55,733
Speaker 6: that date would move out four months from her last

1269
00:58:55,813 --> 00:58:59,293
Speaker 6: infraction and then longer. So now like I haven't taken

1270
00:58:59,333 --> 00:59:01,693
Speaker 6: a phone offer for a long time because she knows

1271
00:59:01,853 --> 00:59:06,373
Speaker 6: that the area's consequences, and that consequence stops here from

1272
00:59:06,893 --> 00:59:12,053
Speaker 6: interacting with her mates as stupid little app that she watches.

1273
00:59:12,253 --> 00:59:15,973
Speaker 6: But the thing I find hard is when she views

1274
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:19,773
Speaker 6: a lot of this TikTok crap in her mind, that's real,

1275
00:59:20,693 --> 00:59:26,253
Speaker 6: that's what really happening. So it's deciphering between bs and reality.

1276
00:59:26,413 --> 00:59:28,573
Speaker 6: And it's to say for ours adults, if you want

1277
00:59:28,613 --> 00:59:31,813
Speaker 6: to go look for something, let's say the election, what

1278
00:59:32,013 --> 00:59:33,693
Speaker 6: you want to read, you're going to find if you

1279
00:59:33,773 --> 00:59:35,253
Speaker 6: go on the other side, you're going to find it

1280
00:59:35,333 --> 00:59:38,653
Speaker 6: on the other side. So it's hard for me as

1281
00:59:38,693 --> 00:59:42,933
Speaker 6: a parent to go, honey, that's bullshit. That's just go

1282
00:59:43,373 --> 00:59:45,893
Speaker 6: look for another source. Go stop looking at the dot

1283
00:59:45,973 --> 00:59:48,493
Speaker 6: coms and look for a dot org and you'll find

1284
00:59:48,573 --> 00:59:52,613
Speaker 6: climate change from a different bespective. So I think again

1285
00:59:52,693 --> 00:59:57,413
Speaker 6: it's parents managing and having an open dialogue with your child.

1286
00:59:57,893 --> 01:00:00,293
Speaker 6: That you're not going to show me the posting that

1287
01:00:00,333 --> 01:00:01,173
Speaker 6: shouldn't be posted.

1288
01:00:01,773 --> 01:00:03,293
Speaker 3: Thinks so much, Peter, think of your call.

1289
01:00:03,973 --> 01:00:04,133
Speaker 18: Now.

1290
01:00:04,253 --> 01:00:06,413
Speaker 4: I've just got a question for you, please, what is

1291
01:00:06,493 --> 01:00:09,413
Speaker 4: the average time in New Zealanders been on social media

1292
01:00:09,653 --> 01:00:10,213
Speaker 4: every day?

1293
01:00:11,133 --> 01:00:11,333
Speaker 7: Oh?

1294
01:00:11,573 --> 01:00:12,173
Speaker 3: Good question.

1295
01:00:12,453 --> 01:00:14,293
Speaker 2: And if you think you know, nine two niney two

1296
01:00:14,413 --> 01:00:16,253
Speaker 2: is the text number. I'm going to give you my

1297
01:00:16,413 --> 01:00:20,253
Speaker 2: answer after the headlines, and I promise I won't google it, okay.

1298
01:00:20,373 --> 01:00:23,813
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten Oh googling, No gurgling. Oh

1299
01:00:23,813 --> 01:00:25,693
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1300
01:00:25,933 --> 01:00:27,853
Speaker 2: It is twenty nine minutes to three.

1301
01:00:30,493 --> 01:00:34,013
Speaker 17: Deuce talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

1302
01:00:34,093 --> 01:00:35,533
Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble.

1303
01:00:35,933 --> 01:00:40,253
Speaker 18: Transport Minister Semian Brown's promising months of train disruption for

1304
01:00:40,333 --> 01:00:44,253
Speaker 18: Aucklander's will be as painless as possible. Two hundred million

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Speaker 18: prosecuted for doing a Nazi salute in public. The arm

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Speaker 18: gesture was made illegal in the Australian state last year.

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Speaker 18: A far right extremist has been found guilty of intentionally

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Speaker 18: doing the salute outside a court just days after the ban,

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Speaker 18: and sentenced to a month's jail. Elon Musk helped Elect Trump.

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Speaker 18: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty five to

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Speaker 2: three oh four. The headlines you mentioned day we factoid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: University of Kennterby lecture Kenzania Zahara claims from studies that

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Speaker 4: the average user in New Zealand of social media spends

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01:02:03,933 --> 01:02:07,813
Speaker 4: two point five hours on social media daily, which may

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Speaker 4: not sound that much, but as she points out, that's

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Speaker 4: seventy thirty seven days in a year. Far, it's a

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Speaker 4: lot of a month yea spent on social media. But

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01:02:19,213 --> 01:02:22,733
Speaker 4: for young people it is much much higher, often seven

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Speaker 4: or eight hours per day.

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Speaker 2: Cheaper's bo, how are you.

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01:02:27,533 --> 01:02:28,053
Speaker 3: Hey? You bo.

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01:02:29,693 --> 01:02:32,013
Speaker 2: Oh model loss bo. I'll just put your back to

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01:02:32,093 --> 01:02:34,293
Speaker 2: Andrew and we'll come back and see what's happened there.

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Speaker 2: A couple of ticks while we see what's happening with Boyiday.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem nowadays as parents don't want to fight

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Speaker 2: with the kids. I say, bring it on, and I'm

1341
01:02:43,253 --> 01:02:44,413
Speaker 2: not letting my child win.

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Speaker 3: But if you've been really really busy.

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01:02:46,013 --> 01:02:48,653
Speaker 4: You've worked, you know, you've had a big day at work,

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01:02:48,773 --> 01:02:52,613
Speaker 4: and your tie has and you get home. Sometimes you

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01:02:52,773 --> 01:02:55,693
Speaker 4: just cannot be bothered having the fight. And that might

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01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:58,653
Speaker 4: make you feel like a bad parent, But how much

1347
01:02:58,813 --> 01:03:00,733
Speaker 4: energy have we got in their life? You already worked

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01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:05,533
Speaker 4: all day, paid your taxes, paying the mortgage, feeding the kids.

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01:03:05,373 --> 01:03:07,893
Speaker 2: Got a cooked tea, yeah, do some washing, and then

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01:03:07,973 --> 01:03:08,773
Speaker 2: you've got to.

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Speaker 3: Go to a fall on battle with your kids to

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01:03:11,093 --> 01:03:12,733
Speaker 3: get them off the phone. It's a lot, and you've

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01:03:12,733 --> 01:03:13,813
Speaker 3: got to do it, but it's a lot.

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01:03:14,013 --> 01:03:16,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, bo, I think we've got your back. How are you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Good things.

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Speaker 3: So you're a twenty two year old's who's quit social media.

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Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, So I've kind of grown up throughout the

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Speaker 10: whole kind of social media period, I guess, and have

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Speaker 10: been severely addicted over the years. But I have recently

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Speaker 10: decided to delete Instagram and Twitter, but I kept Facebook

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Speaker 10: because Facebook good with kind of buying tickets through events

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Speaker 10: and all that. But I've noticed myself recently checking my

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Speaker 10: emails every city seconds and stuff like that, and finding

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Speaker 10: different ways to kind of get that dopamine hit, yeah,

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Speaker 10: which have kind of made me realize how how bad

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Speaker 10: it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so how did you quit? Did you just delete

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Speaker 3: the apps off your phone?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, just delete them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's a very good point, BO, because if

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01:04:00,133 --> 01:04:02,413
Speaker 4: you're really serious about it and you really want to quit,

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Speaker 4: you can just go to your phone, press it, hold

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01:04:05,053 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 4: it down, and then put your finger on the little square.

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Speaker 4: Everyone could do that right now if they really wanted

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Speaker 4: to get rid of their social media.

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Speaker 3: I did do that.

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Speaker 2: I had that for about two years, and I came back.

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Speaker 2: I came crawling back to Facebook because they got me

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Speaker 2: by the coolies obviously.

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Speaker 4: Now, Bo, how did you feel when you when you

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Speaker 4: quit these social media Do you feel like you were

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Speaker 4: you were missing out on things with friends.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and no, like kind of having to understand that

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Speaker 10: it's just asn't all that important and you're not missing

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Speaker 10: out of much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's funny that you mentioned that, the checking to see

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Speaker 4: if you've got email, because that's when you really know

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01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:44,253
Speaker 4: you're addicted to social media. And I've had this before

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Speaker 4: with X where I'm checking and then on board because

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01:04:46,893 --> 01:04:49,133
Speaker 4: there's not enough things updated, but I'm still going back.

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Speaker 4: And that's when you really that's when you really don't

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Speaker 4: like yourself when you just have the regret that you're

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01:04:55,533 --> 01:04:57,773
Speaker 4: not even getting anything out of it anymore. You've you've

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Speaker 4: read that same post three times?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you kind of solo and your friend group and

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Speaker 2: you know that you've deleted those social media apps.

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Speaker 10: Now, I'd say a few of us kind of has

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01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:14,973
Speaker 10: brett out kind of mutual friend groups and stuff like that.

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01:05:15,173 --> 01:05:17,973
Speaker 10: But everyone seems to be pretty Yeah, everyone's pretty adapted.

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Speaker 4: And do you feel like you're going to be able

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01:05:20,693 --> 01:05:23,173
Speaker 4: to stay off or do you feel the core of

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Speaker 4: social media pulling you back?

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Speaker 10: I'm hoping I can stay off. Who knows? Who knows?

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Speaker 10: I would be surprised spoke all back into it.

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Speaker 4: What do you I think people need to look at

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01:05:32,373 --> 01:05:35,693
Speaker 4: a social media as an addiction because it is. It

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01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:39,573
Speaker 4: is an addiction like it an addiction like a cocaine addiction.

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Speaker 4: And I've talked about this guy before on the show,

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Speaker 4: a guy called Dr Judson Brewer who wrote a book

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Speaker 4: called The Craving Mind that I couldn't recommend more to people.

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Speaker 4: And that's how he looks at it. He looks at

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01:05:50,293 --> 01:05:52,653
Speaker 4: social media no different than getting someone off smoking. He's

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Speaker 4: been the most successful person in the United States statistically

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Speaker 4: of getting people off smoking, and then he moved his

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Speaker 4: mind to social media and uses the exact same techniques.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is.

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Speaker 3: It is an addiction, just like smoking, just like cocaine, dopamine.

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Speaker 2: Hat just quickly before you go, bo, What are you

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Speaker 2: doing with those extra hours you've got now?

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Speaker 10: M Yeah, trying to find other kind of sources of.

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Speaker 9: Stuff.

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01:06:20,613 --> 01:06:21,093
Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's the hard part though, wasn't it. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: what I find when I go off social media. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do I do?

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Speaker 22: Now?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for you call Bo?

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01:06:30,573 --> 01:06:31,413
Speaker 2: Now boy, how are you?

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01:06:32,453 --> 01:06:32,573
Speaker 9: Hey?

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01:06:32,693 --> 01:06:32,853
Speaker 3: Good?

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01:06:32,933 --> 01:06:33,213
Speaker 14: Thanks?

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01:06:34,293 --> 01:06:38,893
Speaker 22: Yeah, I've been trying to sell social media, but just

1438
01:06:38,973 --> 01:06:41,293
Speaker 22: by myself listening more to talkback radio.

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01:06:41,733 --> 01:06:46,133
Speaker 3: Good Man. So you're just doing scrolling through through talkback radio.

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01:06:47,093 --> 01:06:49,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, no, it's my morning commute at the moment, trying to.

1441
01:06:50,053 --> 01:06:52,733
Speaker 3: Keep up to date, yeah, good man.

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01:06:54,253 --> 01:06:56,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm a parent, but my boys are young three

1443
01:06:56,973 --> 01:06:59,133
Speaker 22: and four years old, so I'm pretty busy with them,

1444
01:06:59,853 --> 01:07:02,813
Speaker 22: and you kind of yeah, you don't want to influence

1445
01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:08,013
Speaker 22: them too much with you know, the devices, and yeah,

1446
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:11,133
Speaker 22: some very mindful with how I use my phone in

1447
01:07:11,213 --> 01:07:13,813
Speaker 22: front of them, and but it's a hard one like

1448
01:07:13,973 --> 01:07:16,493
Speaker 22: Pandora's Box has opened and you've got to live with

1449
01:07:16,813 --> 01:07:20,453
Speaker 22: social media and it's just how things are. There's no

1450
01:07:20,573 --> 01:07:22,733
Speaker 22: going back. How do you live with it?

1451
01:07:22,853 --> 01:07:25,813
Speaker 3: That's the question. Well, the study you're talking about the

1452
01:07:25,813 --> 01:07:27,453
Speaker 3: Pandora's Box. Pandora's box.

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01:07:27,493 --> 01:07:29,533
Speaker 4: But yeah, because you get a text and you'll check

1454
01:07:29,573 --> 01:07:31,053
Speaker 4: on that and it's something you need to check on,

1455
01:07:31,133 --> 01:07:33,533
Speaker 4: maybe to do with the kids or or whatever it is.

1456
01:07:33,613 --> 01:07:35,853
Speaker 4: But then once you've checked on the text, your phone

1457
01:07:35,973 --> 01:07:37,773
Speaker 4: so smart and it then drags you into all the

1458
01:07:37,813 --> 01:07:38,293
Speaker 4: other stuff.

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01:07:39,373 --> 01:07:39,573
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: So I suppose you just have to be mindful of

1461
01:07:41,853 --> 01:07:44,773
Speaker 22: how you're using it. You're not not be like, you know,

1462
01:07:45,413 --> 01:07:47,853
Speaker 22: subconscious mind taking over and you're just got to be

1463
01:07:47,973 --> 01:07:50,293
Speaker 22: like really aware with Okay, I'm using my phone now

1464
01:07:50,373 --> 01:07:52,493
Speaker 22: and they're going to put it down, and you know

1465
01:07:52,773 --> 01:07:55,373
Speaker 22: you can there's functions on the phone that you can

1466
01:07:55,493 --> 01:07:59,413
Speaker 22: you know, make it so it's not you're not jumping

1467
01:07:59,693 --> 01:08:02,093
Speaker 22: every alert that you get. You just have to be

1468
01:08:02,173 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 22: mindful about how you use it.

1469
01:08:03,453 --> 01:08:03,933
Speaker 9: It's a tool.

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01:08:04,053 --> 01:08:05,533
Speaker 22: I'm a builder, so everything for me.

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01:08:05,613 --> 01:08:06,533
Speaker 3: Is a tell Yeah.

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01:08:06,733 --> 01:08:08,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, and then there are a lot

1473
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:10,773
Speaker 4: of things you can do as well, because the way

1474
01:08:10,813 --> 01:08:14,093
Speaker 4: the addiction works as beeps and sounds and bright colors.

1475
01:08:14,653 --> 01:08:16,452
Speaker 4: So one thing you can do is just make your

1476
01:08:16,492 --> 01:08:18,492
Speaker 4: phone black and white. That's in the settings, and that

1477
01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:22,253
Speaker 4: actually makes quite a difference. But napou As your kids

1478
01:08:22,293 --> 01:08:24,812
Speaker 4: grow older, do you think you you think? Has Chanel

1479
01:08:24,893 --> 01:08:28,492
Speaker 4: texted before, and her suggestion was that that the best

1480
01:08:28,532 --> 01:08:30,293
Speaker 4: thing parents can do is just not be on their

1481
01:08:30,333 --> 01:08:32,972
Speaker 4: phones in front of their kids, because you know, actions

1482
01:08:33,013 --> 01:08:34,133
Speaker 4: speak louder than words.

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01:08:35,333 --> 01:08:38,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, You're like, every time you pick up your phone,

1484
01:08:38,133 --> 01:08:40,492
Speaker 22: you're sending a message that your phone's more important than

1485
01:08:40,692 --> 01:08:43,173
Speaker 22: there they are. Yeah, But then at the same time,

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01:08:43,213 --> 01:08:45,492
Speaker 22: they're going to like reach adolescents and they're going to

1487
01:08:45,532 --> 01:08:48,253
Speaker 22: be like, well, I need to have my own identity

1488
01:08:48,372 --> 01:08:52,212
Speaker 22: and have their own friends, and you need to like anything,

1489
01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:55,253
Speaker 22: like you get introduced to having like a few drinks

1490
01:08:55,293 --> 01:08:57,293
Speaker 22: with your family or whatever, and you're just like, this

1491
01:08:57,452 --> 01:09:01,612
Speaker 22: is how you use it responsibility, responsibly and moderation, and

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01:09:01,732 --> 01:09:04,692
Speaker 22: you know, you've got to have time where like there

1493
01:09:04,772 --> 01:09:07,892
Speaker 22: is definitely like a positive way to use social media

1494
01:09:08,013 --> 01:09:10,932
Speaker 22: where kind of propel them when they find their interests

1495
01:09:11,532 --> 01:09:14,732
Speaker 22: and it's an echo chamber of what they're interested in.

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01:09:14,973 --> 01:09:16,532
Speaker 22: So it's going to push them in the right direction.

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01:09:16,772 --> 01:09:19,452
Speaker 22: But if you're doomed scrolling and in not mindful about it,

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01:09:19,572 --> 01:09:21,253
Speaker 22: then it's not going to work for you.

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01:09:22,133 --> 01:09:22,412
Speaker 14: Yeah, and.

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01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:27,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, there's a lot that you can We can't live

1501
01:09:27,253 --> 01:09:29,692
Speaker 22: without it, like there's no going back.

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01:09:29,772 --> 01:09:31,053
Speaker 8: So yeah, it is what it is.

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01:09:31,732 --> 01:09:33,293
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for very cooch cool.

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01:09:33,612 --> 01:09:35,932
Speaker 4: This is intually when social media the texts come through

1505
01:09:35,933 --> 01:09:37,973
Speaker 4: in nineteen nine two, social media is bad for our

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01:09:38,053 --> 01:09:40,612
Speaker 4: mental health as smoking was for our physical health. Definitely

1507
01:09:40,652 --> 01:09:45,093
Speaker 4: support banning it under sixteen s time will tell. I mean,

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01:09:45,133 --> 01:09:47,612
Speaker 4: I would support banning it from under sixteens. And I'm

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01:09:47,692 --> 01:09:50,052
Speaker 4: the anti ban guy. I don't believe in banning anything.

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01:09:50,133 --> 01:09:52,412
Speaker 4: But I think that we've done a terrible experiment on

1511
01:09:52,492 --> 01:09:55,852
Speaker 4: our kids and ourselves. Actually with social media, we've just

1512
01:09:55,933 --> 01:09:57,253
Speaker 4: been thrown at us and we don't know.

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01:09:57,412 --> 01:10:02,612
Speaker 3: We can see the average attention span is plummeting so far.

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01:10:02,853 --> 01:10:05,412
Speaker 4: Definitely, it's now below forty seven seconds, and the latest

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01:10:05,532 --> 01:10:07,972
Speaker 4: studies that they've done in the United States, people's attention

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01:10:08,053 --> 01:10:11,133
Speaker 4: span forty seven seconds and getting.

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01:10:10,893 --> 01:10:14,932
Speaker 3: Lower every year. Yeah, so we've done a terrible things

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01:10:14,973 --> 01:10:17,812
Speaker 3: to it to ourself. And you know, if I agree

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01:10:17,853 --> 01:10:18,452
Speaker 3: with this texture.

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01:10:18,452 --> 01:10:21,012
Speaker 4: If we think that kids shouldn't smoke cigarettes under sixteen,

1521
01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:23,612
Speaker 4: then I know social media might be doing just as

1522
01:10:23,692 --> 01:10:24,213
Speaker 4: bad stuff.

1523
01:10:24,333 --> 01:10:27,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you talk about addiction, and I am an

1524
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:29,612
Speaker 2: avid tramper love getting out to have it for a

1525
01:10:29,652 --> 01:10:32,333
Speaker 2: wee while. But going bush and getting out of that

1526
01:10:32,452 --> 01:10:36,133
Speaker 2: cell phone reception, you can't do anything but be off

1527
01:10:36,213 --> 01:10:38,452
Speaker 2: your phone because you're not getting any Internet, so it's

1528
01:10:38,532 --> 01:10:40,892
Speaker 2: not a thing there. But for that first twelve hours,

1529
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:43,732
Speaker 2: that's tough. I'm thinking, Wait, what's going on in the world,

1530
01:10:43,973 --> 01:10:45,852
Speaker 2: Who's trying to get a hold of me? What's going

1531
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:48,372
Speaker 2: on in social media? Takes about forty eight hours.

1532
01:10:48,253 --> 01:10:50,372
Speaker 3: For that to go away. Yeah, and then I don't care.

1533
01:10:50,812 --> 01:10:52,932
Speaker 2: But then when you're in a group and the funny

1534
01:10:52,973 --> 01:10:54,333
Speaker 2: thing and then you get back to the car and

1535
01:10:54,372 --> 01:10:57,013
Speaker 2: all of a sudden the phone start beeping. Everybody is

1536
01:10:57,053 --> 01:10:57,932
Speaker 2: straight into their phones.

1537
01:10:58,053 --> 01:11:00,492
Speaker 4: Well that's why some trampers are angry at Elon Musk

1538
01:11:00,492 --> 01:11:03,052
Speaker 4: because with Starlink, the Internet is going to be available

1539
01:11:03,253 --> 01:11:06,133
Speaker 4: absolutely everywhere, which is great for safety when you're out

1540
01:11:06,173 --> 01:11:09,133
Speaker 4: in deferent tramping. Yeah, but you can't get you won't

1541
01:11:09,133 --> 01:11:11,213
Speaker 4: be able to get away from your phone. I was

1542
01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:14,253
Speaker 4: on the television show Traders in New Zealand. Yep, break

1543
01:11:14,293 --> 01:11:16,612
Speaker 4: out and they take all your digital devices off you.

1544
01:11:17,053 --> 01:11:18,812
Speaker 4: And so I was on the show for six days

1545
01:11:18,893 --> 01:11:22,532
Speaker 4: up at the lodge there and after about a day,

1546
01:11:22,612 --> 01:11:24,572
Speaker 4: like you, I didn't even miss my phone at all.

1547
01:11:24,812 --> 01:11:26,173
Speaker 4: I didn't miss it all. And I was thinking, I

1548
01:11:26,253 --> 01:11:28,732
Speaker 4: think I've broken the addiction. And then when I got

1549
01:11:29,213 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 4: kicked out of the you know, like in the got

1550
01:11:32,732 --> 01:11:35,253
Speaker 4: thrown out and discovered that I was a trader, I

1551
01:11:35,412 --> 01:11:37,172
Speaker 4: was in the car driving back and I was immediately

1552
01:11:37,213 --> 01:11:39,652
Speaker 4: on the phone, and I was immediately on social media,

1553
01:11:39,853 --> 01:11:43,612
Speaker 4: and I just hated myself how quickly I was drawn

1554
01:11:43,692 --> 01:11:45,772
Speaker 4: back in And then most of the most of the

1555
01:11:45,893 --> 01:11:48,772
Speaker 4: ride home back from up North, I was on the phone.

1556
01:11:48,812 --> 01:11:50,732
Speaker 3: It was just hanging on like that was my that

1557
01:11:50,853 --> 01:11:51,333
Speaker 3: was my out.

1558
01:11:51,572 --> 01:11:53,093
Speaker 4: I was forced to be off the phone for six

1559
01:11:53,213 --> 01:11:55,532
Speaker 4: days and then I just let myself get back in there.

1560
01:11:55,652 --> 01:11:57,532
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1561
01:11:57,532 --> 01:11:59,333
Speaker 3: to call. It is a quarter to three.

1562
01:12:01,772 --> 01:12:05,213
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred and

1563
01:12:05,372 --> 01:12:09,133
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons. You for twenty twenty four News Talk

1564
01:12:09,213 --> 01:12:09,612
Speaker 1: said be.

1565
01:12:10,253 --> 01:12:11,492
Speaker 2: It is twelve to three.

1566
01:12:13,013 --> 01:12:17,012
Speaker 4: So I just need to delete the apps from your phone.

1567
01:12:17,093 --> 01:12:19,812
Speaker 4: If it's not your far more likely not to go

1568
01:12:19,933 --> 01:12:22,972
Speaker 4: on it. Can just download the apps again, automatically log

1569
01:12:23,053 --> 01:12:24,532
Speaker 4: in if you need to use it whenever you need,

1570
01:12:24,612 --> 01:12:25,372
Speaker 4: then delete it again.

1571
01:12:25,732 --> 01:12:26,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that. I mean, that's the thing.

1572
01:12:26,933 --> 01:12:32,173
Speaker 4: If anyone's serious about getting off social media one hundred percent, just.

1573
01:12:32,293 --> 01:12:33,772
Speaker 3: You gets so easy to delete the apps.

1574
01:12:34,372 --> 01:12:38,412
Speaker 4: Rachel, you've been battling with your daughter around her time

1575
01:12:38,452 --> 01:12:38,972
Speaker 4: on phones.

1576
01:12:39,973 --> 01:12:40,133
Speaker 1: Ah.

1577
01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:43,053
Speaker 23: Yeah, So the other day I asked you to get

1578
01:12:43,093 --> 01:12:47,013
Speaker 23: off your phone for about half an hour. So then

1579
01:12:47,093 --> 01:12:50,732
Speaker 23: she got back onto your phone and she noticed in

1580
01:12:50,812 --> 01:12:53,333
Speaker 23: her friend groups she had over six hundred messages.

1581
01:12:53,572 --> 01:12:54,612
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, half an hour.

1582
01:12:55,572 --> 01:12:55,973
Speaker 7: She is.

1583
01:12:56,732 --> 01:12:59,173
Speaker 23: She actually freaked out because she thought she'd missed out

1584
01:12:59,213 --> 01:13:01,372
Speaker 23: on something massive in the world.

1585
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:02,692
Speaker 6: But I don't know world.

1586
01:13:02,452 --> 01:13:04,052
Speaker 21: Peace had come to Well.

1587
01:13:05,812 --> 01:13:07,933
Speaker 3: That's a crazy amount of messages though, isn't it? In

1588
01:13:08,013 --> 01:13:08,532
Speaker 3: half now?

1589
01:13:09,612 --> 01:13:13,893
Speaker 23: But they're happens all the time. Another time, I'm a

1590
01:13:13,933 --> 01:13:18,333
Speaker 23: scout leader for venturers which are fourteen and eighteen, and

1591
01:13:19,213 --> 01:13:21,612
Speaker 23: I tell them for two hours and tuesday they know

1592
01:13:21,692 --> 01:13:24,572
Speaker 23: how to use their phone. Oh my goodness, trying to

1593
01:13:24,572 --> 01:13:27,093
Speaker 23: get someone to wean themselves off the phone for two

1594
01:13:27,133 --> 01:13:31,732
Speaker 23: hours is insane, but they feel like they're going to miss.

1595
01:13:31,572 --> 01:13:32,732
Speaker 13: Out on the world as well.

1596
01:13:33,333 --> 01:13:36,013
Speaker 23: But I've just told them over the years, just tell

1597
01:13:36,053 --> 01:13:38,692
Speaker 23: your friends not to text, you're not available between those

1598
01:13:38,732 --> 01:13:41,372
Speaker 23: two hours, and they're slowly getting home.

1599
01:13:41,772 --> 01:13:44,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, Rachel, the pomo is quite quite quite a

1600
01:13:44,293 --> 01:13:47,812
Speaker 4: rough thing for teenagers, isn't it. Because I remember when

1601
01:13:47,812 --> 01:13:50,532
Speaker 4: I was a kid, if my friends did something in

1602
01:13:50,532 --> 01:13:53,173
Speaker 4: the weekend and didn't invite me, then I didn't find

1603
01:13:53,173 --> 01:13:56,972
Speaker 4: out till Monday. But now for kids, now they see

1604
01:13:57,173 --> 01:13:59,412
Speaker 4: the pictures and because at social media, you take the

1605
01:13:59,492 --> 01:14:01,932
Speaker 4: best shot you've ever seen, so everyone looks like they're

1606
01:14:01,933 --> 01:14:04,412
Speaker 4: having an amazing time all the time, and if you're

1607
01:14:04,452 --> 01:14:07,333
Speaker 4: not invited, you feel like a social pariah.

1608
01:14:07,893 --> 01:14:10,532
Speaker 3: I mean, that's so hard for kids, isn't it. Rachel.

1609
01:14:11,372 --> 01:14:15,692
Speaker 23: Oh, I've seen some of the messages that she gets given,

1610
01:14:16,572 --> 01:14:20,052
Speaker 23: gets said, but they're not it's even worse, so pictures

1611
01:14:21,333 --> 01:14:22,932
Speaker 23: emojis or something.

1612
01:14:23,612 --> 01:14:25,293
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's like they.

1613
01:14:25,293 --> 01:14:29,452
Speaker 23: Try and better each other for a statement, which is strange.

1614
01:14:29,492 --> 01:14:33,532
Speaker 23: But Ye's said.

1615
01:14:33,893 --> 01:14:36,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do get it at that age though, for

1616
01:14:36,812 --> 01:14:39,012
Speaker 2: because that age of the brain, kids are really trying

1617
01:14:39,053 --> 01:14:41,372
Speaker 2: to find their tribe, right that that that part of

1618
01:14:41,452 --> 01:14:44,452
Speaker 2: the brain, the social brain, is going into overdrive that

1619
01:14:44,612 --> 01:14:46,213
Speaker 2: you need to find your place in the world, and

1620
01:14:46,253 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 2: here's the tribe and if you're not part of the tribe,

1621
01:14:48,333 --> 01:14:50,053
Speaker 2: then it's all going to fall over, the world's going

1622
01:14:50,093 --> 01:14:52,652
Speaker 2: to implode. So that's a tough time for for your

1623
01:14:52,732 --> 01:14:55,173
Speaker 2: daughter when as you say, I mean it's just half

1624
01:14:55,213 --> 01:14:59,212
Speaker 2: an hour, but in her brain she's probably thinking I'm

1625
01:14:59,253 --> 01:15:00,213
Speaker 2: losing my tribe here.

1626
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:03,933
Speaker 23: Yeah, But then insane that though the ventures that I

1627
01:15:04,013 --> 01:15:07,772
Speaker 23: have on Tuesday now because they can't use it so

1628
01:15:07,973 --> 01:15:10,333
Speaker 23: they can engage with each other a lot more as well,

1629
01:15:11,452 --> 01:15:14,213
Speaker 23: which is really nice, you know, and they actually really

1630
01:15:14,333 --> 01:15:19,972
Speaker 23: enjoy each other's space. But Overricks eight thirty eight thirty one,

1631
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:22,492
Speaker 23: they're all on their phones again and they're ignoring each

1632
01:15:22,532 --> 01:15:26,812
Speaker 23: other again. It's just really sad. All they're fixing each

1633
01:15:26,812 --> 01:15:28,492
Speaker 23: other and are standing next to each other.

1634
01:15:30,133 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, different times, that's for sure, Rachel, Thank you

1635
01:15:34,412 --> 01:15:36,333
Speaker 3: very much. Joe. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1636
01:15:36,412 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 3: the number to call. It is nine to three.

1637
01:15:40,013 --> 01:15:42,412
Speaker 7: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1638
01:15:42,492 --> 01:15:43,093
Speaker 7: along the way.

1639
01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:47,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons You for twenty twenty four.

1640
01:15:47,253 --> 01:15:49,372
Speaker 3: You've talked said be six to three.

1641
01:15:49,532 --> 01:15:51,892
Speaker 4: We've been talking about social media after the Australian government

1642
01:15:51,933 --> 01:15:57,652
Speaker 4: has suggested banning children under sixteen from being on social

1643
01:15:57,732 --> 01:16:00,892
Speaker 4: media and finding the social media companies if they're court

1644
01:16:01,053 --> 01:16:05,133
Speaker 4: allowing people on. Boy, we're getting a lot of full

1645
01:16:05,173 --> 01:16:07,772
Speaker 4: on texts coming through here on people struggle with their

1646
01:16:07,853 --> 01:16:10,532
Speaker 4: kids around social media. This a teck came through on

1647
01:16:10,572 --> 01:16:12,692
Speaker 4: nineteen nine two. I smashed my daughter's phone with a

1648
01:16:12,732 --> 01:16:15,213
Speaker 4: mallet after she punched my wife who tried to get

1649
01:16:15,253 --> 01:16:15,652
Speaker 4: it off her.

1650
01:16:16,492 --> 01:16:19,212
Speaker 3: She was being destroyed by her phone. It was toxic.

1651
01:16:19,532 --> 01:16:21,372
Speaker 4: She's been a lot better since, but it's a real

1652
01:16:21,452 --> 01:16:25,093
Speaker 4: problem as you can't socially exclude her. We hate what

1653
01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:28,692
Speaker 4: the devices have done to our kids. Jenny, your thoughts

1654
01:16:28,732 --> 01:16:30,012
Speaker 4: on social media and children.

1655
01:16:31,532 --> 01:16:35,773
Speaker 24: Yeah, So the thing is you've got kids being exposed

1656
01:16:35,853 --> 01:16:40,932
Speaker 24: to the screen at a very early age. So clearly

1657
01:16:41,053 --> 01:16:44,253
Speaker 24: my age, I never grew up with computers in the

1658
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:48,692
Speaker 24: early ages. They were introduced, just came into schools in

1659
01:16:48,853 --> 01:16:53,333
Speaker 24: my teenage years. But now you've got little kids and

1660
01:16:53,412 --> 01:16:58,293
Speaker 24: they're supposed to have laptops or tablets, and so they're

1661
01:16:58,492 --> 01:17:03,052
Speaker 24: already being exposed to that screen with the interactive buttons

1662
01:17:03,133 --> 01:17:07,093
Speaker 24: with the likes and the love heartset come up or

1663
01:17:07,133 --> 01:17:09,652
Speaker 24: whatever it is when they get is right. So we're

1664
01:17:09,692 --> 01:17:14,293
Speaker 24: almost like pre preparing them and training them to become addictive,

1665
01:17:14,572 --> 01:17:18,012
Speaker 24: so that when they go into the social media world,

1666
01:17:18,812 --> 01:17:22,293
Speaker 24: there's there's alway there that design that want. And I

1667
01:17:22,412 --> 01:17:26,333
Speaker 24: think it's it's one thing for us to say you can't,

1668
01:17:26,452 --> 01:17:29,293
Speaker 24: you know, like we need to limit their screens. But

1669
01:17:29,412 --> 01:17:32,572
Speaker 24: if you think about the fact that our children aren't

1670
01:17:32,652 --> 01:17:37,652
Speaker 24: learning masks like they used to, their you know, their

1671
01:17:37,893 --> 01:17:41,372
Speaker 24: their skills, their education, their English, everything like that, it's

1672
01:17:41,452 --> 01:17:45,053
Speaker 24: all been diminished. And yet the increase in the use

1673
01:17:45,133 --> 01:17:48,772
Speaker 24: of computers in the classroom has increased, and there's that

1674
01:17:48,893 --> 01:17:52,133
Speaker 24: correlation between the two. Once they get set up, they're

1675
01:17:52,133 --> 01:17:52,852
Speaker 24: then going into.

1676
01:17:52,732 --> 01:17:53,612
Speaker 9: The social media.

1677
01:17:54,013 --> 01:18:00,292
Speaker 24: Our children suicide rate, harming rates, depression, everything is being increased.

1678
01:18:01,933 --> 01:18:05,852
Speaker 24: It's I mean, but we're pre setting them up. Don't

1679
01:18:05,933 --> 01:18:09,293
Speaker 24: use computers, limit the screens. You have to have a

1680
01:18:09,333 --> 01:18:10,213
Speaker 24: screen for school.

1681
01:18:10,412 --> 01:18:11,093
Speaker 2: I know it's tough.

1682
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:12,692
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much. We call Jenny. We're running

1683
01:18:12,692 --> 01:18:16,253
Speaker 3: out of time here, but someone says Gidnapp called Opal.

1684
01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:16,892
Speaker 3: On the phones.

1685
01:18:17,572 --> 01:18:19,452
Speaker 4: You can set the amount of time on the apps

1686
01:18:19,492 --> 01:18:20,772
Speaker 4: you want to look at and for how long? So

1687
01:18:20,933 --> 01:18:22,933
Speaker 4: opal opa l. I'm not sure about that thing, but

1688
01:18:23,013 --> 01:18:24,572
Speaker 4: that could be a savior yep.

1689
01:18:24,612 --> 01:18:26,892
Speaker 2: And this one to finish. Hey, guys, you just need

1690
01:18:26,973 --> 01:18:29,732
Speaker 2: to find another hobby. I suggest drinking. If you start

1691
01:18:29,812 --> 01:18:32,372
Speaker 2: young enough, you'll never coordinate enough to learn how to

1692
01:18:32,412 --> 01:18:33,692
Speaker 2: properly use social media.

1693
01:18:34,173 --> 01:18:35,612
Speaker 3: I can see some other problems with that.

1694
01:18:35,973 --> 01:18:38,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much that it's a good discussion.

1695
01:18:38,812 --> 01:18:42,852
Speaker 2: Right after three o'clock New Zealander of the Year. Looking

1696
01:18:42,893 --> 01:18:45,053
Speaker 2: forward to seeing who that will be. And then we're

1697
01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:47,012
Speaker 2: going to have a chat about when's the best time

1698
01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:48,012
Speaker 2: to watch footy?

1699
01:18:48,492 --> 01:18:51,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the All Blacks are nine ten tomorrow morning.

1700
01:18:51,213 --> 01:18:53,652
Speaker 3: I think there's a great time that's coming up very shortly.

1701
01:18:53,812 --> 01:18:54,932
Speaker 3: It is three to three.

1702
01:18:56,612 --> 01:18:58,333
Speaker 7: Talking with you all afternoon.

1703
01:18:58,572 --> 01:19:02,372
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty

1704
01:19:02,452 --> 01:19:04,253
Speaker 1: four us talk zib.

1705
01:19:05,013 --> 01:19:09,253
Speaker 2: Good afternoon six pass three the final for us on

1706
01:19:09,372 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 2: a Friday. Always feel good on a Friday.

1707
01:19:11,452 --> 01:19:13,973
Speaker 4: It's getting a bit thirsty, actually, Piod. You know what

1708
01:19:13,973 --> 01:19:17,133
Speaker 4: I'm excited about. I'm excited about the Rugby tomorrow morning.

1709
01:19:17,173 --> 01:19:21,772
Speaker 4: The AB's versus Island very very important.

1710
01:19:22,293 --> 01:19:24,372
Speaker 3: Test of where the all Blecks are sitting. Huge game.

1711
01:19:24,492 --> 01:19:26,173
Speaker 3: Last time we played them was, of course, when we

1712
01:19:26,652 --> 01:19:28,652
Speaker 3: knocked them out of the World Card. What a fantastic

1713
01:19:28,692 --> 01:19:29,293
Speaker 3: game that was.

1714
01:19:30,372 --> 01:19:32,972
Speaker 4: But nine ten am in the morning, I think that's

1715
01:19:33,013 --> 01:19:35,172
Speaker 4: a great time to watch rugby.

1716
01:19:35,412 --> 01:19:35,812
Speaker 6: I love it.

1717
01:19:36,213 --> 01:19:38,253
Speaker 4: But what is the best time to watch rugby? I

1718
01:19:38,293 --> 01:19:40,452
Speaker 4: don't think that's the best time because that's breakfast. I

1719
01:19:40,532 --> 01:19:42,932
Speaker 4: think afternoon rugby. I think when they play in Argentina,

1720
01:19:43,013 --> 01:19:45,013
Speaker 4: that's a great time to watch rugby because that sort

1721
01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:45,932
Speaker 4: of comes in the middle of the day.

1722
01:19:46,133 --> 01:19:48,732
Speaker 3: Yes, what's that about midday being on givel take. I

1723
01:19:48,812 --> 01:19:49,732
Speaker 3: think the best time.

1724
01:19:49,973 --> 01:19:52,452
Speaker 4: Overall is about three o'clock in the afternoon if you

1725
01:19:52,492 --> 01:19:55,532
Speaker 4: can watch rugby. If when all lines up and the

1726
01:19:55,572 --> 01:19:57,972
Speaker 4: AB's play at three o'clock in the afternoon, it doesn't

1727
01:19:57,973 --> 01:20:00,132
Speaker 4: happen as much as it used to. It hardly ever happens,

1728
01:20:00,173 --> 01:20:00,852
Speaker 4: But it's fantastic.

1729
01:20:01,013 --> 01:20:01,213
Speaker 8: See.

1730
01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:03,812
Speaker 2: I like the nine o'clock nine am being down at

1731
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:06,772
Speaker 2: the pub or the sports bar or around people at

1732
01:20:06,812 --> 01:20:09,812
Speaker 2: that time and you get in excited and the pints

1733
01:20:09,812 --> 01:20:12,372
Speaker 2: are flowing. It doesn't feel quite right. It feels a

1734
01:20:12,412 --> 01:20:14,173
Speaker 2: little bit cheeky. That you're doing that at that time

1735
01:20:14,213 --> 01:20:16,213
Speaker 2: in the morning, but it's okay because you're watching the

1736
01:20:16,253 --> 01:20:16,692
Speaker 2: All Blacks.

1737
01:20:16,853 --> 01:20:20,572
Speaker 3: Well eight hundred eighty ten eighty, what is the best

1738
01:20:20,732 --> 01:20:21,253
Speaker 3: time to.

1739
01:20:21,372 --> 01:20:23,173
Speaker 4: Watch an All Blacks game? Because I don't mind getting

1740
01:20:23,213 --> 01:20:24,053
Speaker 4: up at four am as well.

1741
01:20:24,093 --> 01:20:25,532
Speaker 3: That's kind of fun as well with the hot chocolate.

1742
01:20:25,692 --> 01:20:26,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that.

1743
01:20:27,293 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 3: It is a past three news talk zebby.

1744
01:20:34,973 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 4: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons. On zb we

1745
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:39,412
Speaker 4: name the New Zealander of the Week and honor that

1746
01:20:39,452 --> 01:20:41,652
Speaker 4: we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who has

1747
01:20:41,692 --> 01:20:44,333
Speaker 4: had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation

1748
01:20:44,853 --> 01:20:46,933
Speaker 4: over the previous seven days. As always, there will be

1749
01:20:47,013 --> 01:20:49,812
Speaker 4: three nominees, but only one winner. And remember, like the

1750
01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:52,333
Speaker 4: Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealand of

1751
01:20:52,372 --> 01:20:54,572
Speaker 4: the Week isn't always an agent of good.

1752
01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:56,572
Speaker 3: So, without further pissing around, the.

1753
01:20:56,612 --> 01:20:59,293
Speaker 4: Nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the

1754
01:20:59,333 --> 01:21:03,293
Speaker 4: Week are nominee. One also wins the make everyone younger

1755
01:21:03,333 --> 01:21:05,052
Speaker 4: than you feel lame about themselves Award.

1756
01:21:05,492 --> 01:21:06,492
Speaker 3: You're old, You're Kiwi.

1757
01:21:06,732 --> 01:21:08,852
Speaker 4: You got foot in your name and you used your

1758
01:21:08,933 --> 01:21:11,173
Speaker 4: feet to become the oldest runner at the New York

1759
01:21:11,253 --> 01:21:14,532
Speaker 4: Marathon twenty twenty four. You've shifted a few houses, You're

1760
01:21:14,572 --> 01:21:18,093
Speaker 4: still pounding the pavement. Garth barfort at eighty eight. You

1761
01:21:18,173 --> 01:21:20,612
Speaker 4: are nominated for New Zealander of the Week I Don't

1762
01:21:20,692 --> 01:21:26,692
Speaker 4: Garth ninety two and also recipient of the Magpie Shiny

1763
01:21:26,812 --> 01:21:30,492
Speaker 4: Objects Award for paying far more attention to and freaking

1764
01:21:30,532 --> 01:21:34,732
Speaker 4: out more about an election fifteen thousand kilometers away rather

1765
01:21:34,853 --> 01:21:38,333
Speaker 4: than focusing on your own depressing political situation. New Zealanders,

1766
01:21:38,732 --> 01:21:40,893
Speaker 4: you are nominated for New Zealander of the Week, I

1767
01:21:40,973 --> 01:21:46,612
Speaker 4: don't care, Way's dem my taste? And now who the

1768
01:21:46,692 --> 01:21:49,452
Speaker 4: winner of New Zealander of the Week. This weekend, the

1769
01:21:49,492 --> 01:21:52,732
Speaker 4: All Blacks play their six hundred and forty ninth Test

1770
01:21:52,853 --> 01:21:56,213
Speaker 4: match and one man has commentated over half of those.

1771
01:21:56,612 --> 01:21:59,892
Speaker 4: You've got a great mo You're deliciously nasal. No one

1772
01:22:00,053 --> 01:22:02,293
Speaker 4: uses less words to describe a play than you. It

1773
01:22:02,412 --> 01:22:04,572
Speaker 4: sounds very odd and not like a bought one. When

1774
01:22:04,572 --> 01:22:07,052
Speaker 4: you're not calling the games, you try to stay neutral,

1775
01:22:07,093 --> 01:22:09,213
Speaker 4: but sometimes we can tell you hate the ref. You've

1776
01:22:09,213 --> 01:22:12,333
Speaker 4: got Marshy coming up from behind with the heart takes.

1777
01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:15,893
Speaker 4: You're sixty at seventy four, never ever retire. We love you,

1778
01:22:16,013 --> 01:22:19,612
Speaker 4: Grant Nisbet ahead of your three hundred and fiftieth AB

1779
01:22:19,812 --> 01:22:20,972
Speaker 4: game behind the Mike.

1780
01:22:21,093 --> 01:22:24,652
Speaker 3: Nisbo, you are our new Zealander of the week.

1781
01:22:26,812 --> 01:22:30,052
Speaker 25: Congratulations Lisbo, give him the taste of Gamma God blessing

1782
01:22:30,133 --> 01:22:52,933
Speaker 25: God Speed's just going to.

1783
01:22:52,933 --> 01:22:53,173
Speaker 14: Do it.

1784
01:22:56,372 --> 01:23:07,532
Speaker 26: And the Love side. They've just got to kick it

1785
01:23:07,612 --> 01:23:14,572
Speaker 26: out and champions for the second time.

1786
01:23:18,173 --> 01:23:21,293
Speaker 2: News talks thereb. It is thirteen past three and well

1787
01:23:21,452 --> 01:23:25,093
Speaker 2: done Nisbo. Three hundred and fifty games commentated. I mean

1788
01:23:25,173 --> 01:23:26,652
Speaker 2: that guy is a New Zealand Treasury.

1789
01:23:26,853 --> 01:23:27,573
Speaker 3: It's phenomenal.

1790
01:23:27,772 --> 01:23:31,053
Speaker 4: So he has commentated he will have commentated fifty four

1791
01:23:31,133 --> 01:23:33,012
Speaker 4: percent of all All Black tests.

1792
01:23:33,372 --> 01:23:36,412
Speaker 3: Unreally that I mean that is incredible because it's.

1793
01:23:36,293 --> 01:23:38,253
Speaker 4: Been the six hundred and forty ninth All Blacks Test

1794
01:23:38,372 --> 01:23:40,892
Speaker 4: this weekend, so fifty four percent. So the All Blacks

1795
01:23:41,213 --> 01:23:43,612
Speaker 4: are so important to us as a nation, so important

1796
01:23:43,612 --> 01:23:47,732
Speaker 4: to our history, and Nisbo has commentated fifty four percent

1797
01:23:47,893 --> 01:23:51,973
Speaker 4: of all their fixtures. Yeah, it's it's hard to even comprehend.

1798
01:23:52,692 --> 01:23:55,892
Speaker 4: And when he's commentating, it feels like an All Blacks

1799
01:23:55,973 --> 01:23:58,692
Speaker 4: test because our whole lives have been listening to him. Yeah,

1800
01:23:59,093 --> 01:24:03,213
Speaker 4: is he is he New Zealand's greatest commentator? I mean,

1801
01:24:03,692 --> 01:24:06,932
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Scotty J. Stevenson is a great commentator, definitely.

1802
01:24:07,652 --> 01:24:10,252
Speaker 4: What about Pete Petemont commentary?

1803
01:24:10,452 --> 01:24:15,612
Speaker 2: Petegomery great commentators, no one for the Saline, but he

1804
01:24:15,692 --> 01:24:17,692
Speaker 2: has commentated rugby in the past, isn't it.

1805
01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:18,133
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1806
01:24:18,572 --> 01:24:20,532
Speaker 4: This is Keith Quinn out there. Oh eight hundred Hardeki,

1807
01:24:20,612 --> 01:24:23,852
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I did it again. Oh my goodness,

1808
01:24:23,893 --> 01:24:26,892
Speaker 4: it's Friday, folks. How many of those do you get

1809
01:24:26,893 --> 01:24:28,932
Speaker 4: a week before we get the whip out? Fourteen years

1810
01:24:28,973 --> 01:24:32,692
Speaker 4: on Radio Hedchi, I've had three or four of them

1811
01:24:32,732 --> 01:24:33,133
Speaker 4: this week?

1812
01:24:33,692 --> 01:24:34,052
Speaker 3: Terrible.

1813
01:24:34,812 --> 01:24:38,772
Speaker 4: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Who is

1814
01:24:39,333 --> 01:24:42,412
Speaker 4: New Zealand's greatest of a comment commentator? Ian Smith?

1815
01:24:43,133 --> 01:24:46,293
Speaker 3: Very good? Yeah, Jason Hoyt. There's some great commentators out there.

1816
01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:49,972
Speaker 3: Brian Waddle. Watt's not a fan of me, but Wadd's

1817
01:24:50,093 --> 01:24:50,893
Speaker 3: great commentator.

1818
01:24:51,173 --> 01:24:53,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot we've We've punched above

1819
01:24:53,492 --> 01:24:55,173
Speaker 2: our weight and I know that's a cliche, but we

1820
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:57,092
Speaker 2: do punch above our weight when it comes to sport

1821
01:24:57,333 --> 01:24:59,893
Speaker 2: as sports commentators, don't we. I mean, you know you

1822
01:25:00,013 --> 01:25:03,532
Speaker 2: mentioned Pete Montgomery there and America's Cup is now New

1823
01:25:03,652 --> 01:25:07,492
Speaker 2: Zealand's Cup that just resonated around the world and you

1824
01:25:07,612 --> 01:25:09,812
Speaker 2: know that belongs to to Papper now. But as you mentioned,

1825
01:25:09,893 --> 01:25:10,972
Speaker 2: we've had Keith Quinn.

1826
01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:15,053
Speaker 3: Yep, Keith Winn. He hands off his opposite. Ah love

1827
01:25:15,093 --> 01:25:17,052
Speaker 3: it nor novel.

1828
01:25:17,612 --> 01:25:20,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's some been some beautiful moments eight

1829
01:25:20,253 --> 01:25:22,772
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. The ticks are coming through already.

1830
01:25:23,053 --> 01:25:26,772
Speaker 2: Get on the phones. I think we've got being mate,

1831
01:25:27,772 --> 01:25:29,572
Speaker 2: get out here. Good Who is it for you?

1832
01:25:30,812 --> 01:25:34,612
Speaker 12: In Galloway he's doing his greatest cricket commentative all time.

1833
01:25:34,732 --> 01:25:39,732
Speaker 4: Sure, yes, of course, have you got any other man,

1834
01:25:40,053 --> 01:25:43,333
Speaker 4: got any fond memories of in of course you've listened

1835
01:25:43,333 --> 01:25:44,252
Speaker 4: to for me in Galloway.

1836
01:25:45,053 --> 01:25:47,253
Speaker 12: Well he also used to take a cricket teaing turing

1837
01:25:47,333 --> 01:25:50,852
Speaker 12: to the beautiful South and came grand test.

1838
01:25:50,772 --> 01:25:56,812
Speaker 3: So good Targo lad Yeah in Galloway yeaes and thank you,

1839
01:25:57,013 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 3: thank you being in Galloway.

1840
01:25:58,492 --> 01:26:00,092
Speaker 2: You're fantastic cricket commentator.

1841
01:26:00,173 --> 01:26:02,173
Speaker 3: Trevor. How are you mate? Hey?

1842
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:07,053
Speaker 27: You guys here look a comments man who was fantastics.

1843
01:26:07,053 --> 01:26:09,372
Speaker 27: I suppose you're the commentators and me Tony cricket.

1844
01:26:09,772 --> 01:26:09,972
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1845
01:26:10,412 --> 01:26:10,932
Speaker 27: When you're mad.

1846
01:26:11,133 --> 01:26:11,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, the words.

1847
01:26:12,893 --> 01:26:16,333
Speaker 27: Oh, he was fantastic and i'll tell you a great commentator,

1848
01:26:16,372 --> 01:26:18,612
Speaker 27: but you didn't hear her much. But there was an

1849
01:26:18,652 --> 01:26:20,973
Speaker 27: amazing piece of country. A little about Peter Montgomery was

1850
01:26:20,973 --> 01:26:23,692
Speaker 27: Ala McLoughlin commentating in rugby league and there was a

1851
01:26:23,772 --> 01:26:27,652
Speaker 27: rugby league check match against Australia. We upset them and

1852
01:26:27,772 --> 01:26:32,892
Speaker 27: Alan mcgloughlin said, Australia, you are dead, No, you are buried.

1853
01:26:34,053 --> 01:26:34,732
Speaker 3: Great line.

1854
01:26:35,812 --> 01:26:38,973
Speaker 4: I've sometimes been listening to Jeremy Coney and I've had

1855
01:26:39,013 --> 01:26:41,213
Speaker 4: to look up words because I haven't. I remember he

1856
01:26:41,293 --> 01:26:43,213
Speaker 4: was talking about a match. I think I'm getting the

1857
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:45,812
Speaker 4: word right now. He said the match is entering entering

1858
01:26:45,933 --> 01:26:49,652
Speaker 4: its abiquities and I locked that up into here and

1859
01:26:49,973 --> 01:26:54,612
Speaker 4: that means it's the death rows. Yeah, commentator, just to

1860
01:26:54,692 --> 01:26:56,452
Speaker 4: throw out a word like that that i've you know,

1861
01:26:56,492 --> 01:26:59,012
Speaker 4: I've been speaking this language for a very long time

1862
01:26:59,173 --> 01:27:00,532
Speaker 4: and this was only a few years ago.

1863
01:27:00,572 --> 01:27:02,532
Speaker 3: He threw out a word. I can't remember what particular game.

1864
01:27:02,412 --> 01:27:05,412
Speaker 4: It was, but I thought, wow, he's He's thrown out

1865
01:27:05,452 --> 01:27:07,812
Speaker 4: a word I've never heard before in a cricket commentary.

1866
01:27:07,933 --> 01:27:08,133
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1867
01:27:08,452 --> 01:27:10,612
Speaker 2: It was one of the great partnerships in terms of

1868
01:27:10,973 --> 01:27:14,372
Speaker 2: commentary partnerships him and what wasn't it and it still is?

1869
01:27:15,532 --> 01:27:17,852
Speaker 27: Oh yeah, no absolutely. I mean Jeremy comes from the

1870
01:27:17,893 --> 01:27:21,973
Speaker 27: same part of town as me and Wellington here. But

1871
01:27:22,372 --> 01:27:24,412
Speaker 27: I'll tell you you know, he was just an amazing

1872
01:27:24,652 --> 01:27:26,293
Speaker 27: You know, if there was a break and play or

1873
01:27:26,412 --> 01:27:28,253
Speaker 27: there was an hour to speak about and he'd done

1874
01:27:28,293 --> 01:27:30,492
Speaker 27: talking functions on that, you go along and listen to him.

1875
01:27:30,732 --> 01:27:33,772
Speaker 27: He's amazing. But he knew so much about cricket he

1876
01:27:33,853 --> 01:27:37,492
Speaker 27: could actually say, well, this is what I think should happen. Well,

1877
01:27:37,532 --> 01:27:39,333
Speaker 27: I think this is what will happen. He was amazing.

1878
01:27:39,692 --> 01:27:41,732
Speaker 27: So those two of them, for me, speaking on of Gotlins,

1879
01:27:41,812 --> 01:27:44,052
Speaker 27: you should try and find a great piece of commentary.

1880
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:46,492
Speaker 3: Oh we will just just on Coney as well Docklin.

1881
01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:49,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alan McGlocklin will find it on Alan McGlocklin. But

1882
01:27:49,253 --> 01:27:51,852
Speaker 2: Coney wasn't he kind of the start of bringing former

1883
01:27:51,893 --> 01:27:54,053
Speaker 2: players into the commentary box. He kind of led the

1884
01:27:54,093 --> 01:27:56,652
Speaker 2: way that actually these you can get a lot of

1885
01:27:56,692 --> 01:27:58,412
Speaker 2: players that are phenomenal commentators.

1886
01:27:59,492 --> 01:28:02,652
Speaker 27: Yeah no, you know, you're probably be right, but another

1887
01:28:02,692 --> 01:28:04,852
Speaker 27: one big off the phone, another one you might know

1888
01:28:04,933 --> 01:28:07,732
Speaker 27: you won't remember that even you're too young, remember Glenn Tucker.

1889
01:28:08,532 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 3: Glenn Tucker, Yeah, Gleck Yeah.

1890
01:28:11,412 --> 01:28:13,732
Speaker 14: Hey he was one of the very early crooked Aye.

1891
01:28:13,772 --> 01:28:18,492
Speaker 3: But love it. Dreva, You're a good man. Thank you

1892
01:28:18,652 --> 01:28:20,532
Speaker 3: very much. OK. I got a question for you. E

1893
01:28:20,532 --> 01:28:23,692
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1894
01:28:24,772 --> 01:28:27,973
Speaker 4: Who was the commentator that who was commentating that win

1895
01:28:28,213 --> 01:28:30,412
Speaker 4: Loader Loader when.

1896
01:28:30,372 --> 01:28:33,293
Speaker 3: Daniel Loader won gold medal at the Olympics. I got

1897
01:28:33,452 --> 01:28:34,132
Speaker 3: no idea.

1898
01:28:34,372 --> 01:28:36,173
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to without who that was. I don't

1899
01:28:36,213 --> 01:28:40,133
Speaker 4: think it was a well known commentator Loader Loader. And

1900
01:28:40,253 --> 01:28:42,612
Speaker 4: who was the commentator that said it's two for Todd

1901
01:28:42,692 --> 01:28:46,412
Speaker 4: and Todd for two. Someone will know what moments nine

1902
01:28:46,933 --> 01:28:49,972
Speaker 4: two is the text number? It is nineteen past three.

1903
01:28:50,133 --> 01:28:51,933
Speaker 3: Who's our greatest ever commentator?

1904
01:28:56,732 --> 01:29:00,092
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1905
01:29:00,173 --> 01:29:02,812
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk said b why to

1906
01:29:02,893 --> 01:29:04,132
Speaker 1: Lomu he's got.

1907
01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:07,492
Speaker 28: The bounce, he's heading it off for his opposite loveh.

1908
01:29:11,293 --> 01:29:13,732
Speaker 4: So a lot of people coming through saying Keith Quinn

1909
01:29:14,053 --> 01:29:17,253
Speaker 4: was the greatest commentator. All we're looking into who that is?

1910
01:29:17,532 --> 01:29:21,133
Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now apparently with Keith

1911
01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:24,333
Speaker 4: Quinn that he had another line. I think it was

1912
01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:26,973
Speaker 4: all pump and muscle, but he couldn't find his bit

1913
01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:29,933
Speaker 4: of paper because the commentators often prepare a line that

1914
01:29:29,933 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 4: they're going to read out, yes, yeah, and he had

1915
01:29:32,293 --> 01:29:37,133
Speaker 4: one I think was He's all pump and muscle something

1916
01:29:37,213 --> 01:29:39,093
Speaker 4: like that, but he couldn't find it, so he just

1917
01:29:39,173 --> 01:29:42,572
Speaker 4: went oh lo move oh oh, which actually ended up

1918
01:29:42,572 --> 01:29:44,492
Speaker 4: being the greatest piece of commentary of all time because

1919
01:29:44,532 --> 01:29:47,213
Speaker 4: the moment running over Mike Katz like that was the

1920
01:29:47,452 --> 01:29:50,692
Speaker 4: that was the most iconic moment, and the way we

1921
01:29:50,812 --> 01:29:51,773
Speaker 4: were just feeling.

1922
01:29:51,772 --> 01:29:55,372
Speaker 3: As a nation watching it was oh oh, he nailed it. Yeah,

1923
01:29:55,492 --> 01:30:00,772
Speaker 3: absolutely brilliant. Andy, How are you good? Thank you, greatest

1924
01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:01,972
Speaker 3: commentator of all time.

1925
01:30:03,333 --> 01:30:06,932
Speaker 6: Oh, speaking of oh oh, Keith Quinn, I think it's

1926
01:30:07,013 --> 01:30:10,333
Speaker 6: Murray mixed It. I can't remember the yes that. I

1927
01:30:10,412 --> 01:30:14,852
Speaker 6: can't remember the inside runner, but basically old Mother, the

1928
01:30:15,133 --> 01:30:19,573
Speaker 6: big next ed. He said, if you come inside Mertens

1929
01:30:19,612 --> 01:30:22,892
Speaker 6: often enough, it will bring produced results. Yeah.

1930
01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:25,812
Speaker 4: I love Murray Mixed Dead definitely. He was the king

1931
01:30:25,853 --> 01:30:28,572
Speaker 4: of the accidental double on TUNDR. I just watched a

1932
01:30:28,692 --> 01:30:30,412
Speaker 4: fantastic thing on Sky the other day and it was

1933
01:30:30,492 --> 01:30:35,132
Speaker 4: Nisbo and Murray Mix Dead. Reminiscing about the two thousand,

1934
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:40,372
Speaker 4: ninety two thousand Bledersow Cup and they're just sitting down

1935
01:30:40,732 --> 01:30:43,852
Speaker 4: and talking to each other, and they had justin Marshall

1936
01:30:44,093 --> 01:30:47,372
Speaker 4: and Confeld, just Cornfeld in the other room talking about

1937
01:30:47,412 --> 01:30:50,652
Speaker 4: their game. If it's still up on on Sky, it's

1938
01:30:50,692 --> 01:30:52,452
Speaker 4: one of the best TV shows I've ever seen, and

1939
01:30:52,572 --> 01:30:56,532
Speaker 4: that the obvious friendship and love between Nisbo and Murray's

1940
01:30:56,532 --> 01:30:56,972
Speaker 4: mix dead.

1941
01:30:57,293 --> 01:30:58,532
Speaker 3: It's really beautiful to watch.

1942
01:30:58,572 --> 01:31:00,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. Hey, thank you very much.

1943
01:31:00,333 --> 01:31:00,532
Speaker 3: Andy.

1944
01:31:00,572 --> 01:31:03,293
Speaker 2: A lot of people texting in about the Danian Loader commentary.

1945
01:31:05,372 --> 01:31:09,772
Speaker 2: John macbeth, John Mcbethcbeth, of course it was. Thank you

1946
01:31:09,893 --> 01:31:11,652
Speaker 2: very much for teaching throw on nine two, nine to two.

1947
01:31:11,652 --> 01:31:18,972
Speaker 6: Get a bob listen, listen, it's a goal, very good.

1948
01:31:19,893 --> 01:31:21,092
Speaker 12: You're too young to remember.

1949
01:31:21,133 --> 01:31:22,052
Speaker 10: Winston McCarthy.

1950
01:31:22,532 --> 01:31:25,732
Speaker 3: Winston McCarthy, Yes, I am not familiar with Winston McCarthy.

1951
01:31:26,572 --> 01:31:29,532
Speaker 6: That was in the late forties and early fifties when

1952
01:31:29,572 --> 01:31:30,572
Speaker 6: I was still at school.

1953
01:31:31,173 --> 01:31:32,732
Speaker 3: Wow, and what game was that?

1954
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:33,053
Speaker 8: Bob?

1955
01:31:34,013 --> 01:31:34,173
Speaker 14: Oh?

1956
01:31:34,732 --> 01:31:37,293
Speaker 12: He commented on the number of games, all the test

1957
01:31:37,412 --> 01:31:38,492
Speaker 12: matures of his time.

1958
01:31:38,732 --> 01:31:41,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so rugby commentator. I'm just looking at up

1959
01:31:41,812 --> 01:31:43,612
Speaker 4: handsome Feller as well. Winston McCarthy.

1960
01:31:44,652 --> 01:31:45,452
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right.

1961
01:31:45,973 --> 01:31:49,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, and was he was he radio primarily? He must

1962
01:31:49,053 --> 01:31:49,372
Speaker 2: have been.

1963
01:31:51,133 --> 01:31:53,452
Speaker 9: It was television, Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah.

1964
01:31:53,492 --> 01:31:54,253
Speaker 5: That's interesting, isn't it.

1965
01:31:54,293 --> 01:31:57,452
Speaker 4: So we talk about getting up tomorrow morning, well getting

1966
01:31:57,532 --> 01:31:59,092
Speaker 4: up you should be out of bed by nine o'clock.

1967
01:31:59,372 --> 01:32:03,253
Speaker 4: But the game against Island's nineteen tomorrow people watching it,

1968
01:32:03,293 --> 01:32:05,293
Speaker 4: all the directions around that, but for the longest time,

1969
01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 4: people listen to rugby on the radio, which the makes

1970
01:32:10,013 --> 01:32:14,013
Speaker 4: Nesbo's fifty four percent commentating fifty four percent of all

1971
01:32:14,133 --> 01:32:17,173
Speaker 4: the All Blacks tests even more impressive because so many

1972
01:32:17,173 --> 01:32:19,173
Speaker 4: of them were on radio before he was even around.

1973
01:32:19,333 --> 01:32:21,173
Speaker 2: Well, I think he started off on radio, didn't he.

1974
01:32:21,253 --> 01:32:23,333
Speaker 2: I'm sure N's buff We go way back. He was

1975
01:32:23,372 --> 01:32:25,092
Speaker 2: a radio commentator before he moved.

1976
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:29,452
Speaker 3: To Telly Yeah, yeah, probably yeah, probably. All right, thank

1977
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:31,412
Speaker 3: you very much, fairly. How you doing?

1978
01:32:32,772 --> 01:32:35,732
Speaker 29: Yeah good. I just want to talk about Lovelock's gold

1979
01:32:35,812 --> 01:32:37,532
Speaker 29: at Berlin in nineteen thirty six.

1980
01:32:37,933 --> 01:32:38,293
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1981
01:32:38,572 --> 01:32:42,572
Speaker 29: The commentary was actually by a friend fellow runner a

1982
01:32:42,652 --> 01:32:47,093
Speaker 29: British commentary. Abraham's and the Bricks are famous for being

1983
01:32:47,933 --> 01:32:49,812
Speaker 29: and one of the things I've enjoyed about last week's

1984
01:32:49,812 --> 01:32:52,692
Speaker 29: test uestion talking at me. So by seven, like the

1985
01:32:52,732 --> 01:32:56,372
Speaker 29: aftermach interviews, say, asked some quite you can say tougher questions.

1986
01:32:56,412 --> 01:33:00,532
Speaker 29: In New Zealand commentators to ask because they're scared of

1987
01:33:00,572 --> 01:33:04,892
Speaker 29: getting offside with or yeah, well you could say tick cant,

1988
01:33:05,013 --> 01:33:07,973
Speaker 29: but they always ask questions it it's not going to

1989
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:11,532
Speaker 29: get them. Yeah, ask a question to get in the future.

1990
01:33:11,532 --> 01:33:15,093
Speaker 29: Where's the Brits. They're quite, they say, and they just

1991
01:33:15,253 --> 01:33:17,333
Speaker 29: ask a ready direct quesh. I've quite enjoy that. But anyway,

1992
01:33:17,372 --> 01:33:19,372
Speaker 29: so go bet the love Lock. But it was a

1993
01:33:19,452 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 29: fellow runner Abraham's. He was, well, love Lock's great friend

1994
01:33:24,133 --> 01:33:26,692
Speaker 29: and he's very Unbritts. She's trying and heat that in

1995
01:33:26,812 --> 01:33:29,333
Speaker 29: thirty six. He doesn't give an unbiased commentary. He's going

1996
01:33:29,412 --> 01:33:33,013
Speaker 29: go check go. And then the last twenty of the

1997
01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 29: French final he goes five yards six hours. Oh my god,

1998
01:33:36,173 --> 01:33:38,813
Speaker 29: he's done a jets you know. So he's so emotional.

1999
01:33:39,213 --> 01:33:42,812
Speaker 29: Yeah check winning that gold medal. Yeah, and in that

2000
01:33:42,973 --> 01:33:48,732
Speaker 29: moment he's completely Unbritish. Yeah, friendship across the lines. I

2001
01:33:48,812 --> 01:33:49,652
Speaker 29: thought it was so cool.

2002
01:33:50,053 --> 01:33:53,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome, Phil, Yeah, I've heard that. That audio's

2003
01:33:53,692 --> 01:33:56,452
Speaker 4: it's phenomenal. This is an interesting text on nineteen ninet two.

2004
01:33:56,692 --> 01:33:59,253
Speaker 4: Hey guys, did you ever play Jonah Lomu Rugby on

2005
01:33:59,412 --> 01:34:00,133
Speaker 4: the polaystation?

2006
01:34:00,572 --> 01:34:03,412
Speaker 3: I certainly did? Who did the commentary for that? But

2007
01:34:03,572 --> 01:34:06,732
Speaker 3: he's digging like a demented mall? Good call?

2008
01:34:06,933 --> 01:34:09,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that I still haven't made a better

2009
01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:11,812
Speaker 4: rugby video game than Joona lom and Rugby.

2010
01:34:11,893 --> 01:34:13,053
Speaker 2: The best was that ninety two?

2011
01:34:13,293 --> 01:34:16,013
Speaker 3: It was it was PlayStation one. Yeah, that's right, so

2012
01:34:16,213 --> 01:34:19,092
Speaker 3: it would have been a bit later than that, but fantastic.

2013
01:34:19,173 --> 01:34:19,772
Speaker 3: Yeah when was that?

2014
01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:21,452
Speaker 4: But I mean, they still haven't made a better game

2015
01:34:21,452 --> 01:34:23,492
Speaker 4: than John Loma Rugby. And John Lomma was so much

2016
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:28,052
Speaker 4: bigger than all the other characters in the game. Yeah, fantastic, Peter,

2017
01:34:28,173 --> 01:34:28,532
Speaker 4: how are you?

2018
01:34:30,093 --> 01:34:30,293
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2019
01:34:30,333 --> 01:34:30,772
Speaker 30: Good mate?

2020
01:34:30,772 --> 01:34:30,932
Speaker 14: Good?

2021
01:34:30,973 --> 01:34:31,213
Speaker 30: Thanks?

2022
01:34:31,652 --> 01:34:32,253
Speaker 3: What's your take?

2023
01:34:34,173 --> 01:34:34,972
Speaker 30: Rion Murtha?

2024
01:34:35,812 --> 01:34:38,972
Speaker 3: Oh Trotting, Yeah that's the one mate.

2025
01:34:39,053 --> 01:34:40,532
Speaker 30: Yeah, So you've got to be of a certain age.

2026
01:34:40,572 --> 01:34:42,412
Speaker 30: You've got to be over fifty. I reckon to remember

2027
01:34:42,452 --> 01:34:42,852
Speaker 30: that fella.

2028
01:34:44,093 --> 01:34:44,293
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2029
01:34:44,532 --> 01:34:47,492
Speaker 3: Well, I I mean I'm thirty eight. But I know

2030
01:34:47,612 --> 01:34:47,972
Speaker 3: the name.

2031
01:34:48,053 --> 01:34:50,572
Speaker 2: I know their name associated with Trotting, But I can't

2032
01:34:50,612 --> 01:34:51,692
Speaker 2: say I heard much commentary.

2033
01:34:51,772 --> 01:34:52,973
Speaker 3: What was so good about him?

2034
01:34:54,893 --> 01:34:57,692
Speaker 30: Well, for me, it's just I remember, you know, summer

2035
01:34:57,853 --> 01:35:00,213
Speaker 30: out with the dad. The transistor radio was out there.

2036
01:35:00,532 --> 01:35:02,213
Speaker 30: He was listening to the racers while doing a bit

2037
01:35:02,253 --> 01:35:06,333
Speaker 30: of gardening, and he just had a really good beat

2038
01:35:06,333 --> 01:35:08,293
Speaker 30: to his commentary. You know, you get a bit excited

2039
01:35:08,412 --> 01:35:13,452
Speaker 30: toward the end of the rape. Yeah, really good. Great

2040
01:35:13,492 --> 01:35:15,492
Speaker 30: comm Katy, you know, gave you a real scene of

2041
01:35:15,532 --> 01:35:16,053
Speaker 30: what's going on.

2042
01:35:16,173 --> 01:35:16,492
Speaker 6: I reckon.

2043
01:35:16,692 --> 01:35:16,892
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2044
01:35:17,133 --> 01:35:19,652
Speaker 4: People used to love Trotting so much in New Zealand

2045
01:35:19,692 --> 01:35:22,852
Speaker 4: that they'd release albums, records of calls that.

2046
01:35:23,093 --> 01:35:23,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2047
01:35:23,652 --> 01:35:26,892
Speaker 4: A friend of mine he had a whole collection to them.

2048
01:35:26,893 --> 01:35:28,692
Speaker 4: He collected with the old ones. So people just listen

2049
01:35:28,772 --> 01:35:30,933
Speaker 4: to them again. You listen to them again, so you

2050
01:35:31,013 --> 01:35:32,572
Speaker 4: know what's going to happen. But the calls will be

2051
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:36,133
Speaker 4: so good that people would buy the vinyl record to

2052
01:35:36,213 --> 01:35:37,012
Speaker 4: listen to the trotting.

2053
01:35:37,173 --> 01:35:39,532
Speaker 2: So good, Peter, thank you very much. We'll pick this

2054
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:42,852
Speaker 2: back up very shortly. It is twenty eight past three.

2055
01:35:45,973 --> 01:35:49,692
Speaker 17: News Talk said the headlines with blue bubble text, it's

2056
01:35:49,772 --> 01:35:51,253
Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble.

2057
01:35:51,692 --> 01:35:54,692
Speaker 18: Why do The question of redress for survivors of abuse

2058
01:35:54,772 --> 01:35:57,692
Speaker 18: and stake care won't be fully answered in next week's

2059
01:35:57,692 --> 01:36:00,973
Speaker 18: official apology. The Prime Minister will make the apology on

2060
01:36:01,053 --> 01:36:04,372
Speaker 18: behalf of the government on Tuesday and will outline future

2061
01:36:04,412 --> 01:36:08,972
Speaker 18: plans around redress. It's looking like a very tough year

2062
01:36:09,053 --> 01:36:12,732
Speaker 18: ahead for some Auckland commuters, with months of cancelations and

2063
01:36:12,812 --> 01:36:16,492
Speaker 18: delays for train services. The government's committing two hundred million

2064
01:36:16,572 --> 01:36:19,612
Speaker 18: dollars for upgrades to be done before the City rail

2065
01:36:19,692 --> 01:36:23,852
Speaker 18: Link opens. US President elect Donald Trump has announced his

2066
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:28,852
Speaker 18: White House chief of staff campaign manager, Susan Wilds. Trump's

2067
01:36:28,853 --> 01:36:31,892
Speaker 18: expected to make more key appointments before taking the reins

2068
01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:36,013
Speaker 18: in January. New Zealand's economic downturn is eton into the

2069
01:36:36,053 --> 01:36:39,333
Speaker 18: Warehouse Group's revenue. The group, made up of the Warehouse

2070
01:36:39,492 --> 01:36:43,092
Speaker 18: nol lemmingad Warehouse Stationery, had total sales for the thirteen

2071
01:36:43,173 --> 01:36:45,852
Speaker 18: weeks to the end of October two point five percent

2072
01:36:45,973 --> 01:36:50,093
Speaker 18: lower than the same period last year. Why it's time

2073
01:36:50,372 --> 01:36:53,452
Speaker 18: for Damien McKenzie to prove all blacks coach Scott Robertson

2074
01:36:53,532 --> 01:36:56,372
Speaker 18: Wright read the full column at end, said herold Premium.

2075
01:36:56,732 --> 01:36:58,532
Speaker 18: Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

2076
01:36:58,612 --> 01:37:00,412
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about New

2077
01:37:00,492 --> 01:37:04,093
Speaker 2: Zealand's best commensater sports commentator of all time. Oh, eight

2078
01:37:04,173 --> 01:37:07,092
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten, eight years the number to call, Josh,

2079
01:37:07,253 --> 01:37:07,612
Speaker 2: how are you?

2080
01:37:09,133 --> 01:37:09,333
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2081
01:37:09,412 --> 01:37:09,612
Speaker 9: Good?

2082
01:37:09,933 --> 01:37:13,572
Speaker 14: Hey yeah, fill mcparent Is that John commentator?

2083
01:37:13,812 --> 01:37:16,932
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's digging like a demented mold.

2084
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:20,053
Speaker 21: You go to your win.

2085
01:37:22,213 --> 01:37:23,772
Speaker 6: He's handing them off like flies.

2086
01:37:24,412 --> 01:37:26,093
Speaker 3: It's so good. They're all there.

2087
01:37:26,893 --> 01:37:28,333
Speaker 14: That would wooman ward for.

2088
01:37:29,973 --> 01:37:32,013
Speaker 22: That's the maternity ward man.

2089
01:37:32,053 --> 01:37:33,452
Speaker 3: That's bring about some good memories.

2090
01:37:33,492 --> 01:37:33,772
Speaker 11: Josh.

2091
01:37:33,973 --> 01:37:34,173
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2092
01:37:34,532 --> 01:37:34,732
Speaker 22: Yeah.

2093
01:37:35,492 --> 01:37:37,412
Speaker 14: Keith Quinn kick Quinn was the is the top man

2094
01:37:37,452 --> 01:37:41,532
Speaker 14: for me rugby wise Douglas but yeah whatever, yeah, no,

2095
01:37:41,732 --> 01:37:44,492
Speaker 14: Keith quit and World Cups. Always think of Keith Quinn.

2096
01:37:45,532 --> 01:37:48,612
Speaker 3: Did you did you see the John Lomu moment live

2097
01:37:49,572 --> 01:37:50,412
Speaker 3: hands off his officely?

2098
01:37:50,692 --> 01:37:51,333
Speaker 12: You know what's that?

2099
01:37:51,492 --> 01:37:51,652
Speaker 29: Live?

2100
01:37:51,772 --> 01:37:52,013
Speaker 7: I was.

2101
01:37:52,093 --> 01:37:54,093
Speaker 14: I'm a mad, mad fan of johneral Ruby. I've still

2102
01:37:54,133 --> 01:37:56,972
Speaker 14: got the game still players and all that. So yeah,

2103
01:37:57,692 --> 01:37:59,732
Speaker 14: and like you said, man, it's still the best rugby

2104
01:37:59,812 --> 01:38:02,253
Speaker 14: game ever created me and I don't understand why someone

2105
01:38:02,333 --> 01:38:04,692
Speaker 14: can't just make it just a little bit of a

2106
01:38:04,732 --> 01:38:07,333
Speaker 14: better version of what they've created back then, even with

2107
01:38:07,692 --> 01:38:09,932
Speaker 14: little crappy grat it doesn't matter, makes just the same

2108
01:38:10,013 --> 01:38:12,813
Speaker 14: game players.

2109
01:38:12,853 --> 01:38:13,692
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a complicated.

2110
01:38:13,732 --> 01:38:16,013
Speaker 4: Rubby Union is a complicated game to turn into a

2111
01:38:16,133 --> 01:38:18,532
Speaker 4: video game like I've played a lot of John Madden

2112
01:38:18,853 --> 01:38:21,692
Speaker 4: Football and n f L is much simpler the way

2113
01:38:21,853 --> 01:38:24,293
Speaker 4: way it plays out. But they managed to nail it

2114
01:38:24,372 --> 01:38:28,572
Speaker 4: on the PS one and it's quite amazing. So do

2115
01:38:28,612 --> 01:38:30,013
Speaker 4: you plug in the PS one to play it or

2116
01:38:30,053 --> 01:38:30,932
Speaker 4: have you got an emulator?

2117
01:38:32,133 --> 01:38:33,772
Speaker 19: No, so I've got this old p S.

2118
01:38:33,812 --> 01:38:37,093
Speaker 14: Three that down plays to the PS one Piece one

2119
01:38:37,133 --> 01:38:38,572
Speaker 14: game on the p S three. But I'll tell you,

2120
01:38:38,572 --> 01:38:41,012
Speaker 14: I'll tell you something. I think it's even crazier. Matt

2121
01:38:41,053 --> 01:38:41,852
Speaker 14: Heath on Blade.

2122
01:38:41,652 --> 01:38:43,333
Speaker 31: News talks the v Mate like you as the old

2123
01:38:43,333 --> 01:38:47,972
Speaker 31: beckersy man in thee the time on my rear breed

2124
01:38:48,053 --> 01:38:50,652
Speaker 31: Mate that like the station together lawns and I just

2125
01:38:50,772 --> 01:38:52,333
Speaker 31: like to get the talk and all that.

2126
01:38:52,452 --> 01:38:54,852
Speaker 14: But when you start coming on board, we want to

2127
01:38:54,893 --> 01:38:55,692
Speaker 14: Simon Barney to.

2128
01:38:55,732 --> 01:38:56,812
Speaker 12: You, I couldn't believe it.

2129
01:38:58,893 --> 01:39:01,093
Speaker 3: Well, I hope I'm delivering for you.

2130
01:39:01,452 --> 01:39:03,412
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of fun to be up here,

2131
01:39:03,692 --> 01:39:07,412
Speaker 4: and and I appreciate the opportunity, but very.

2132
01:39:07,532 --> 01:39:09,532
Speaker 3: Very surprise me as well that I'm here.

2133
01:39:09,612 --> 01:39:11,452
Speaker 2: You're found your new home made, that's for sure.

2134
01:39:12,253 --> 01:39:13,013
Speaker 3: Dennis. How are you.

2135
01:39:15,173 --> 01:39:15,293
Speaker 8: Good.

2136
01:39:15,372 --> 01:39:19,612
Speaker 12: Thanks, how much stretched back the years A little bit true? Firstly,

2137
01:39:19,973 --> 01:39:22,973
Speaker 12: going in reverse, who was the commentator that said a

2138
01:39:23,013 --> 01:39:25,933
Speaker 12: little bit of house your fatherly bang on, there he is?

2139
01:39:26,053 --> 01:39:26,612
Speaker 3: Who was there?

2140
01:39:27,812 --> 01:39:33,372
Speaker 12: That was Baberd who was the TV the TV commentator

2141
01:39:33,853 --> 01:39:38,372
Speaker 12: in the sixty to sixties two of South Africa, right,

2142
01:39:38,492 --> 01:39:40,652
Speaker 12: and there wasn't a how's your father going on?

2143
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:45,932
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful phrase, a bit of how's your father?

2144
01:39:46,173 --> 01:39:50,692
Speaker 3: And Dennis, so I mean you go sorry.

2145
01:39:51,893 --> 01:39:54,452
Speaker 12: I wouldso like to go back to Winston McCarthy. Yeah,

2146
01:39:54,452 --> 01:39:56,812
Speaker 12: ag and mentioned the forties. In the fifties. He stretched

2147
01:39:56,893 --> 01:39:59,532
Speaker 12: on pretty well right through the TV games I think

2148
01:39:59,612 --> 01:40:02,333
Speaker 12: probably in some of the early sixties. But he had

2149
01:40:02,412 --> 01:40:05,572
Speaker 12: some classic phrases like I remember and he was wonderful

2150
01:40:05,812 --> 01:40:08,892
Speaker 12: commentating Don Clark and you know Don kl coming ahead

2151
01:40:08,933 --> 01:40:13,133
Speaker 12: to kick and there he goes, grucious me. Let's try

2152
01:40:13,133 --> 01:40:14,052
Speaker 12: to design the posts.

2153
01:40:16,572 --> 01:40:20,572
Speaker 3: I love those moments. I love that, sorry, Dennis.

2154
01:40:20,572 --> 01:40:23,533
Speaker 4: I love that those moments get the you know, intonation

2155
01:40:23,893 --> 01:40:26,093
Speaker 4: and the moment gets burnt into your mind. Like if

2156
01:40:26,093 --> 01:40:28,333
Speaker 4: you're a commentator and you have one of those iconic

2157
01:40:28,412 --> 01:40:31,412
Speaker 4: moments you have you're in so many people's minds and

2158
01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:33,253
Speaker 4: bring so much joy for such a long time.

2159
01:40:33,772 --> 01:40:38,173
Speaker 2: Dennis, thank you very much. John, how are you gos?

2160
01:40:39,093 --> 01:40:39,772
Speaker 3: Who is it for you?

2161
01:40:39,933 --> 01:40:41,053
Speaker 2: Who's the best commentator?

2162
01:40:42,652 --> 01:40:45,932
Speaker 3: Winston McCarthy, Winston Man as well, a lot of love

2163
01:40:45,973 --> 01:40:47,333
Speaker 3: for Winston McCarthy out there.

2164
01:40:49,572 --> 01:40:52,612
Speaker 6: He was he was commentating when, like for Don Clark

2165
01:40:52,772 --> 01:40:55,293
Speaker 6: was kicking goals from inside his own half and.

2166
01:40:55,333 --> 01:41:04,013
Speaker 3: He'd go, I love that. It's so good.

2167
01:41:04,093 --> 01:41:06,293
Speaker 2: John, Thank you very much. Quick a couple of texts

2168
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:11,612
Speaker 2: and then we've got topical tune is about to commence. Surely, Matt,

2169
01:41:11,612 --> 01:41:16,012
Speaker 2: you're familiar with the great Barbadian cricket commentator Tony Crozy

2170
01:41:16,053 --> 01:41:17,452
Speaker 2: app you're velvet.

2171
01:41:17,293 --> 01:41:19,493
Speaker 3: Totally beautiful voice. Absolutely.

2172
01:41:20,013 --> 01:41:22,013
Speaker 2: I know we're getting away from New Zealand commentators here,

2173
01:41:22,053 --> 01:41:25,492
Speaker 2: but Richie b Yeah, fantastic.

2174
01:41:25,253 --> 01:41:30,012
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, I mean I mean fantastic with the under

2175
01:41:30,093 --> 01:41:30,692
Speaker 3: armed delivery.

2176
01:41:31,173 --> 01:41:34,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. Thank you very much on that. And

2177
01:41:34,692 --> 01:41:38,412
Speaker 2: congratulations again to Grant Nisbo who will be commentating his

2178
01:41:38,492 --> 01:41:42,132
Speaker 2: three hundred and fiftieth rugby match tomorrow morning.

2179
01:41:42,053 --> 01:41:45,093
Speaker 4: Fifty four percent of all all Blacks tests hundred and

2180
01:41:45,093 --> 01:41:48,213
Speaker 4: forty ninth Test against Ireland at nine ten tomorrow morning.

2181
01:41:48,213 --> 01:41:51,532
Speaker 4: And also congratulations to Nisbotha winning the Matt and Tyler

2182
01:41:51,572 --> 01:41:52,652
Speaker 4: Afternoons New Zealander of.

2183
01:41:52,652 --> 01:41:54,053
Speaker 3: The Week earlier in the hour.

2184
01:41:54,293 --> 01:41:57,053
Speaker 2: That's the big one both, that'll be huge for him.

2185
01:41:57,133 --> 01:41:58,652
Speaker 2: Put straight to the pull room.

2186
01:41:58,973 --> 01:42:03,253
Speaker 3: All right though, the competition continues, right, Okay, so I

2187
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:05,732
Speaker 3: think winners start. You won last week, yep.

2188
01:42:05,812 --> 01:42:08,172
Speaker 4: So I'm currently sitting up in the topical Tune competition

2189
01:42:08,732 --> 01:42:10,772
Speaker 4: three to one to use. So you're coming from a

2190
01:42:10,933 --> 01:42:14,093
Speaker 4: long way back, Tyler. It's a very simple competition. We

2191
01:42:14,213 --> 01:42:18,053
Speaker 4: play a song each on a topic eight hundred and

2192
01:42:18,053 --> 01:42:22,253
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. Best of three callers decides who's is

2193
01:42:22,372 --> 01:42:26,692
Speaker 4: better yep, and social ego first, yeah, please, okay, okay. Well,

2194
01:42:26,692 --> 01:42:28,333
Speaker 4: there were a lot of iconic images from the US

2195
01:42:28,372 --> 01:42:31,333
Speaker 4: presidential election. Trump getting back up and raising his first

2196
01:42:31,412 --> 01:42:33,372
Speaker 4: after getting shot in the air, Harris holding up a

2197
01:42:33,412 --> 01:42:35,293
Speaker 4: phone call she was having and revealing the camera was

2198
01:42:35,333 --> 01:42:37,253
Speaker 4: on and she wasn't actually having a phone call with

2199
01:42:37,293 --> 01:42:40,412
Speaker 4: a voter. But the most iconic images of this election

2200
01:42:40,572 --> 01:42:43,532
Speaker 4: for me were the Amish carriages rushing into town. The

2201
01:42:43,692 --> 01:42:48,173
Speaker 4: Amish carriages in Pennsylvania. They had big American flags on

2202
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:51,253
Speaker 4: the back of their handsome cabs. The community hadn't voted

2203
01:42:51,253 --> 01:42:53,013
Speaker 4: for one hundred years, but they were hyped up to

2204
01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:54,932
Speaker 4: vote and they raced into town.

2205
01:42:55,133 --> 01:43:07,612
Speaker 5: So this is my song, Mama, Rugby.

2206
01:43:07,772 --> 01:43:13,013
Speaker 3: Eight wagon will it's topical sing a long song. It's

2207
01:43:13,093 --> 01:43:15,972
Speaker 3: the it's the greatest wedding song of all time. Any

2208
01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:17,492
Speaker 3: excuse to play wagon?

2209
01:43:17,572 --> 01:43:18,892
Speaker 2: Well that is ten us.

2210
01:43:18,973 --> 01:43:21,932
Speaker 3: But a good song, good song, right, my one.

2211
01:43:22,053 --> 01:43:23,972
Speaker 2: This week there was a bit of chat about jet

2212
01:43:24,053 --> 01:43:26,892
Speaker 2: skis yesterday, and I got a little bit of stick

2213
01:43:26,973 --> 01:43:30,612
Speaker 2: about my hatred of jet skis. But there was one caller, Patrina,

2214
01:43:31,053 --> 01:43:35,173
Speaker 2: who mentioned the cops on jet skis, jet ski cops,

2215
01:43:35,213 --> 01:43:37,652
Speaker 2: And when she was talking, it made me think of

2216
01:43:37,732 --> 01:43:38,372
Speaker 2: this song.

2217
01:43:46,293 --> 01:43:49,652
Speaker 3: The Patch song. What a song, can't you just think it?

2218
01:43:49,812 --> 01:43:52,652
Speaker 2: You know, the police on the jet skis screaming through

2219
01:43:52,732 --> 01:43:55,452
Speaker 2: the ocean, rescuing people drowning.

2220
01:43:55,572 --> 01:43:57,772
Speaker 3: I mean, this is just this was a good time.

2221
01:43:59,133 --> 01:44:00,492
Speaker 3: I love you like a brother. But this is a

2222
01:44:00,572 --> 01:44:03,093
Speaker 3: new low. The Baywatch theme for the topical.

2223
01:44:02,772 --> 01:44:06,013
Speaker 2: Tune Jimmy Jamison, he was a great musician.

2224
01:44:06,253 --> 01:44:09,293
Speaker 3: And that is a great song to the Hof sing it. No,

2225
01:44:09,732 --> 01:44:11,852
Speaker 3: the Hof didn't sing that. I don't think so much.

2226
01:44:11,893 --> 01:44:14,052
Speaker 4: I was so sure that the Hoff sunger oh, because

2227
01:44:14,093 --> 01:44:15,972
Speaker 4: the Hoff is a great singer Jimmy Jamerson.

2228
01:44:16,293 --> 01:44:18,612
Speaker 2: Well, I can't believe you forgot about Jimmy Jamerson. Right,

2229
01:44:18,692 --> 01:44:21,372
Speaker 2: those are the choices. Get on the phone. I eight

2230
01:44:21,532 --> 01:44:22,892
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty.

2231
01:44:23,013 --> 01:44:23,732
Speaker 3: You know the drill.

2232
01:44:24,013 --> 01:44:27,253
Speaker 2: First one to three takes at out topical tunes for

2233
01:44:27,333 --> 01:44:30,333
Speaker 2: this week. It is thirty nine past three.

2234
01:44:31,372 --> 01:44:35,653
Speaker 1: It's a new take on talkbag. Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

2235
01:44:35,812 --> 01:44:39,453
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

2236
01:44:39,372 --> 01:44:43,253
Speaker 2: B right time for topical tunes. A quick reminder, Matt,

2237
01:44:43,372 --> 01:44:44,412
Speaker 2: you have picked.

2238
01:44:46,213 --> 01:44:46,852
Speaker 5: On the back of the.

2239
01:44:47,093 --> 01:44:49,572
Speaker 4: Armis rocking into town and they're wagons to vote in

2240
01:44:49,572 --> 01:44:50,532
Speaker 4: the Pennsylvania election.

2241
01:44:50,853 --> 01:44:58,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, and this is me today. Great moment

2242
01:44:58,772 --> 01:45:00,652
Speaker 3: is humanity. This was about the jet skis. But I

2243
01:45:00,772 --> 01:45:03,692
Speaker 3: just love this song and it never gets much here time.

2244
01:45:03,772 --> 01:45:06,772
Speaker 4: Okay, I w eight hundred eighty ten eighty first to

2245
01:45:06,893 --> 01:45:10,053
Speaker 4: three wins. Is it wagon Wheel or is it the

2246
01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:11,053
Speaker 4: bay Watch thing?

2247
01:45:11,173 --> 01:45:12,612
Speaker 2: Come on, Tyler, you know what to do.

2248
01:45:12,772 --> 01:45:13,492
Speaker 3: Rosie, how are you?

2249
01:45:15,532 --> 01:45:16,333
Speaker 6: I'm really good?

2250
01:45:16,412 --> 01:45:17,213
Speaker 15: Thank you boys?

2251
01:45:17,452 --> 01:45:17,812
Speaker 23: How are you?

2252
01:45:18,093 --> 01:45:18,293
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2253
01:45:18,372 --> 01:45:18,612
Speaker 9: Good?

2254
01:45:18,732 --> 01:45:19,772
Speaker 3: Goods? What do you reckon?

2255
01:45:21,333 --> 01:45:21,492
Speaker 27: Look?

2256
01:45:21,933 --> 01:45:24,612
Speaker 6: I've always loved wagon Wheel, so I shipped the.

2257
01:45:24,652 --> 01:45:26,772
Speaker 29: Vote for Matt, Thank you so much.

2258
01:45:26,973 --> 01:45:31,933
Speaker 3: Rosie, what a great song, brilliantly voted. That's great. So

2259
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:33,652
Speaker 3: that's one to me, best of three.

2260
01:45:33,812 --> 01:45:35,532
Speaker 2: Stop sucking upstand and I'm.

2261
01:45:35,532 --> 01:45:39,612
Speaker 3: Currently three one up. All right, here we go. Come on, guys,

2262
01:45:39,812 --> 01:45:40,612
Speaker 3: help a brother out.

2263
01:45:41,532 --> 01:45:43,692
Speaker 11: It's got to be those mega amos.

2264
01:45:46,652 --> 01:45:49,612
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, you're in trouble here, Tyler.

2265
01:45:49,772 --> 01:45:54,293
Speaker 3: Two for met zero for me. Peter, how are you

2266
01:45:55,293 --> 01:45:55,732
Speaker 3: good bye?

2267
01:45:55,772 --> 01:45:57,612
Speaker 14: It's gonna be your Jimmy Jamison.

2268
01:45:57,812 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like a trich coat playing with the soul.

2269
01:46:08,492 --> 01:46:09,612
Speaker 3: It's pretty good, exactly.

2270
01:46:09,612 --> 01:46:10,932
Speaker 2: And what a piano riff as well.

2271
01:46:11,612 --> 01:46:13,612
Speaker 3: I'll give you that much. Sol the pianos. The piano

2272
01:46:13,853 --> 01:46:14,492
Speaker 3: is furious.

2273
01:46:14,853 --> 01:46:17,012
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you can't

2274
01:46:17,093 --> 01:46:20,372
Speaker 2: get through, keep trying. We don't take tics, but there's

2275
01:46:20,412 --> 01:46:23,933
Speaker 2: some good ticks coming through ninety.

2276
01:46:23,173 --> 01:46:26,572
Speaker 4: We never play the Darius Rucker version of wagon Wheel.

2277
01:46:26,572 --> 01:46:29,652
Speaker 4: Epic Foil says this texture on ninety two. But oh wait,

2278
01:46:29,652 --> 01:46:32,293
Speaker 4: one hundred eighty ten eighty, So I only need one

2279
01:46:32,412 --> 01:46:33,892
Speaker 4: more vote to win.

2280
01:46:34,053 --> 01:46:37,692
Speaker 3: You need to yeah, James, how are you doing this afternoon?

2281
01:46:38,652 --> 01:46:39,492
Speaker 1: Not too bad?

2282
01:46:40,253 --> 01:46:42,452
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I thought for a minute there you were

2283
01:46:42,492 --> 01:46:46,013
Speaker 8: going to play where now, Yeah, Amish paradise.

2284
01:46:46,053 --> 01:46:48,412
Speaker 3: I should have really, I'm gonna have to go with you, mate.

2285
01:46:48,612 --> 01:46:51,253
Speaker 2: There we go, nice one, Thank you very much.

2286
01:46:52,372 --> 01:46:54,053
Speaker 3: So there we got into one saying thank you.

2287
01:46:57,492 --> 01:47:01,253
Speaker 4: Been living in mostella living in an Amish paradise.

2288
01:47:01,293 --> 01:47:02,772
Speaker 3: That would have made a bit more sense. But there

2289
01:47:02,812 --> 01:47:02,973
Speaker 3: you go.

2290
01:47:03,372 --> 01:47:06,013
Speaker 2: That's old favorite for one. I'm going to have to

2291
01:47:06,013 --> 01:47:09,253
Speaker 2: bring something more to the table, no Baywatch fans. Yeah,

2292
01:47:09,572 --> 01:47:12,293
Speaker 2: all right, well done mate. Here is your song that

2293
01:47:12,452 --> 01:47:15,732
Speaker 2: a wagon will Darius vision as well, not.

2294
01:47:15,853 --> 01:47:18,772
Speaker 3: The old shirt. I'll try medicine show vision, written by

2295
01:47:18,933 --> 01:47:22,253
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan. The song YEP dedicated to the Amish.

2296
01:47:22,652 --> 01:47:24,933
Speaker 2: Turn the radios off, turn your Telly off, Get in

2297
01:47:25,013 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 2: your wagon, sing along everyone.

2298
01:47:32,133 --> 01:47:35,213
Speaker 28: In the South to the Land of the Pans and

2299
01:47:35,293 --> 01:47:39,133
Speaker 28: something of my way in North Carolina, staring up the

2300
01:47:39,293 --> 01:47:40,812
Speaker 28: road and prayer to God.

2301
01:47:40,973 --> 01:47:45,892
Speaker 5: I see headlights, made it down the.

2302
01:47:45,973 --> 01:47:51,012
Speaker 28: Coast in seventeen hours, picking near footcare dog would flowers

2303
01:47:51,053 --> 01:47:54,372
Speaker 28: and I'm a woman morally. I can see my favorite

2304
01:47:54,452 --> 01:48:02,732
Speaker 28: in that found the wagon wheel. Find me founa gin

2305
01:48:02,853 --> 01:48:04,213
Speaker 28: away feel.

2306
01:48:07,013 --> 01:48:08,253
Speaker 7: Man around.

2307
01:48:10,973 --> 01:48:14,972
Speaker 28: Rock named by Malaca Wind Near the Rain Rock named

2308
01:48:15,093 --> 01:48:15,812
Speaker 28: by Malaca.

2309
01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:17,532
Speaker 5: Sound Downstream.

2310
01:48:19,973 --> 01:48:21,093
Speaker 28: Now strapped me.

2311
01:48:36,973 --> 01:48:39,772
Speaker 7: Running from a cold off for New England.

2312
01:48:39,853 --> 01:48:42,452
Speaker 3: I was gonna be a fiddler in an old time.

2313
01:48:42,333 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 28: String man, my baby pleaser geitar, I pick a band

2314
01:48:46,333 --> 01:48:47,012
Speaker 28: till now.

2315
01:48:49,732 --> 01:48:51,532
Speaker 5: No constant wellness.

2316
01:48:51,133 --> 01:48:54,452
Speaker 28: Peep for getting me down lost by Mordey playing brothers,

2317
01:48:54,532 --> 01:48:57,132
Speaker 28: or have to leave trailed by I ain't a turning

2318
01:48:57,253 --> 01:48:58,293
Speaker 28: back tilling and.

2319
01:48:58,372 --> 01:49:00,372
Speaker 31: That all life no more.

2320
01:49:02,333 --> 01:49:09,013
Speaker 28: Seam Ma Malaca wagon w frien, Mama head away, feel.

2321
01:49:11,812 --> 01:49:18,213
Speaker 7: By from me here? I mean by malka wind by.

2322
01:49:18,133 --> 01:49:20,253
Speaker 28: The way he rack mean by my.

2323
01:49:20,333 --> 01:49:25,892
Speaker 7: Lot south downtree, by rock me.

2324
01:49:41,772 --> 01:49:45,652
Speaker 28: Walking to the south battle Road. Noga Cotta trucker out

2325
01:49:45,732 --> 01:49:48,932
Speaker 28: of Philly had a nice home tour, but he's ahead

2326
01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:52,652
Speaker 28: and west from the come Land guy to john Sun City.

2327
01:49:53,133 --> 01:49:55,933
Speaker 28: Can I see a guy I got nothing more on

2328
01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:59,372
Speaker 28: me for the sunt I hear my many calling money man.

2329
01:49:59,492 --> 01:50:01,852
Speaker 28: I know that's Jes the only one on everybody down

2330
01:50:01,893 --> 01:50:02,932
Speaker 28: here Raleigh, at.

2331
01:50:02,933 --> 01:50:05,253
Speaker 5: Least thou well guide free.

2332
01:50:07,093 --> 01:50:12,812
Speaker 3: Shot Mama lad on where will rock me by? Where away?

2333
01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:14,452
Speaker 7: Feel hey?

2334
01:50:16,692 --> 01:50:17,172
Speaker 29: Mama?

2335
01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:21,133
Speaker 23: Who run me?

2336
01:50:21,492 --> 01:50:25,812
Speaker 28: Mamaa the wind the way rock me Ma Malacca style

2337
01:50:25,893 --> 01:50:30,732
Speaker 28: about train, Mama rack me.

2338
01:50:33,053 --> 01:50:36,733
Speaker 5: Sure me Mama the why the wheel.

2339
01:50:38,532 --> 01:50:39,853
Speaker 17: We want to steal.

2340
01:50:42,612 --> 01:50:45,533
Speaker 7: Mama, Mama, rop me mother.

2341
01:50:45,732 --> 01:50:50,412
Speaker 5: Rob me, brid me, Mama the winner. I want to

2342
01:50:50,572 --> 01:50:52,773
Speaker 5: run strain.

2343
01:50:55,412 --> 01:50:58,933
Speaker 28: About you been around me nothing.

2344
01:51:11,253 --> 01:51:13,492
Speaker 4: And I've just been singing along as has the rest

2345
01:51:13,532 --> 01:51:16,452
Speaker 4: of the nation with my victorious topical tune song.

2346
01:51:16,853 --> 01:51:19,532
Speaker 2: There's some great teats coming through. Yeahha, this is my

2347
01:51:19,692 --> 01:51:23,892
Speaker 2: line dancing song. Wagon will and this one good. Ay, guys, Tyler,

2348
01:51:23,973 --> 01:51:26,572
Speaker 2: you would have had more luck if this was a

2349
01:51:26,652 --> 01:51:30,012
Speaker 2: TV show. You needed the added visuals of Pam running

2350
01:51:30,053 --> 01:51:31,892
Speaker 2: down the beach of a great weekend from Greg.

2351
01:51:32,013 --> 01:51:35,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go. Don't wagon wheels roll rock

2352
01:51:35,452 --> 01:51:38,133
Speaker 3: me mom, I like a wagon. We'll rock.

2353
01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:42,293
Speaker 4: That's a good point. Actually, well, I guess you're rocking

2354
01:51:42,372 --> 01:51:44,213
Speaker 4: back and forth in the wagon. I think actually that

2355
01:51:44,412 --> 01:51:48,012
Speaker 4: song might be more to do with the different kind

2356
01:51:48,093 --> 01:51:50,932
Speaker 4: of act than the end being an armish person traveling

2357
01:51:51,013 --> 01:51:51,572
Speaker 4: in a carriage.

2358
01:51:52,013 --> 01:51:52,213
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2359
01:51:52,412 --> 01:51:56,013
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm gonna have to up my game all one.

2360
01:51:56,213 --> 01:51:57,973
Speaker 2: Now this is starting to hurt. I mean it was

2361
01:51:58,053 --> 01:51:59,892
Speaker 2: fun and games to start off with. Now this is seria.

2362
01:51:59,933 --> 01:52:02,053
Speaker 3: Now you're in trouble, your buddy. Now, just a.

2363
01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:05,852
Speaker 2: Reminder on the big events this weekend around the country.

2364
01:52:05,973 --> 01:52:07,652
Speaker 2: You were going to one of them, The Need and

2365
01:52:07,732 --> 01:52:08,812
Speaker 2: beer Fest of Oh.

2366
01:52:08,772 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Needingcraft Bey and Field Festival in their full

2367
01:52:12,133 --> 01:52:13,772
Speaker 4: Soyth Bar Stadium on there on Saturday.

2368
01:52:13,973 --> 01:52:15,492
Speaker 3: It's it's such a great event.

2369
01:52:15,652 --> 01:52:18,253
Speaker 4: So yeah, if you're going along down there in my

2370
01:52:18,333 --> 01:52:19,932
Speaker 4: hometown of Dunedin, come along.

2371
01:52:19,732 --> 01:52:22,852
Speaker 2: And say today and tonight you're also seeing a great event.

2372
01:52:23,053 --> 01:52:23,213
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2373
01:52:23,293 --> 01:52:25,492
Speaker 4: The National Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty four. If

2374
01:52:25,492 --> 01:52:28,213
Speaker 4: you want to feel good about the future of this country,

2375
01:52:28,412 --> 01:52:31,612
Speaker 4: just zone into the best apprentices in the country.

2376
01:52:31,612 --> 01:52:32,692
Speaker 3: They're amazing yep.

2377
01:52:33,013 --> 01:52:36,852
Speaker 2: And in Wellington Crowded House is on on Saturday at

2378
01:52:36,893 --> 01:52:39,492
Speaker 2: the Gravity Steers Tour part of the Gravity Stairs Tour.

2379
01:52:39,732 --> 01:52:41,732
Speaker 2: And christ Juts is gearing up for show week Cup

2380
01:52:41,812 --> 01:52:46,253
Speaker 2: Day next Tuesday. Christ Show from Thursday and this weekend

2381
01:52:46,293 --> 01:52:49,213
Speaker 2: in Auckland Pool Jam oh yeah tonight and Sunday.

2382
01:52:49,293 --> 01:52:50,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be a great show.

2383
01:52:50,893 --> 01:52:51,053
Speaker 14: Yep.

2384
01:52:51,213 --> 01:52:52,892
Speaker 2: It is ten to four.

2385
01:52:54,532 --> 01:52:57,933
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2386
01:52:58,253 --> 01:53:02,213
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matth and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four US Talk, said B.

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Speaker 7: Said B.

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Speaker 2: News Talks. There'd be well a massive ken of sport

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Speaker 2: a head and in studio is Dean McLaughlin.

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Speaker 3: Get a d tyler. How are you very good?

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Speaker 2: You're looking the part. I've got to say, mate, what

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Speaker 2: does that say? It's an All Blacks jersey, but it

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Speaker 2: says SBC Tour Wellington.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, we went to the Blizzerslow Cup a few months

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Speaker 32: ago in SBC stands for Saintly Boys Club.

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Speaker 3: We do good work, kind of good work.

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Speaker 32: We support local businesses like Craft Blue Brewers and really

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Speaker 32: give them something bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we done community man, I like it. So what's

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Speaker 3: not to be missed this weekend?

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Speaker 32: Not to be missed as the rugby All Blacks versus

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Speaker 32: Island tomorrow morning in Dublin kickoff nine ten am and

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Speaker 32: Elliott Smith with a.

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Speaker 3: Call on News Talk zb ah. Yes he'll give them

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Speaker 3: that a hundi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which way are you picking?

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Speaker 32: I'd like to think we can get up, but of

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Speaker 32: the last ten matches we've won five, they've won five

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Speaker 32: and the last encounter was that Rugby Will Cup quarter

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Speaker 32: final where we won. Just so there's genuine animosity these

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Speaker 32: days and who knows what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give them a taste a mat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give the taste the key. I've put money on

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Speaker 4: the All Blacks. You'll make money over time betting on

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Speaker 4: the All Blacks.

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Speaker 3: If you're insomniac, well I do wood chopping. It's on YouTube.

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Speaker 32: Keey Fomer Jack Jordan is in the Timbersports World Champs.

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Speaker 32: He's taking part in the teams overnight and then the

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Speaker 32: individual wood chopping exciting. It is from Toulouse in France

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Speaker 32: on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: And that guy is a legend.

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Speaker 32: He's a three time World Trophy winner, but he's never

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Speaker 32: won the long form World Champs like Jason Winyard and

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Speaker 32: David Bolts Dad.

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Speaker 3: So yet get in behind him.

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Speaker 2: He's an absolute beast, isn't he. He's a mountain of

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Speaker 2: a man, six five.

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Speaker 5: And fifteen kegs.

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Speaker 32: I think that's a bit light though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: If you've done the chores at home, you've done the

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Speaker 2: gardening community service.

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Speaker 32: I think you can do the Netwell Fast five World

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Speaker 32: Series on Saturday and Sunday from christ Church. Australia is

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Speaker 32: the two time defending champs, but New Zealand will be

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Speaker 32: inspired by that three to one Constellation Cup win, so

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Speaker 32: that'll be a good one. And in football, the A

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Speaker 32: League Wellington Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Men are away to Central Coast.

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Speaker 32: Mariner's six o'clock on Sunday from Gosford, and the big

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Speaker 32: question is can they bounce back from the two Neil

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Speaker 32: Derby loss to Auckland FC. And if you're a masochist,

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Speaker 32: do league The kiwis against Papua New Gideon and the

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Speaker 32: Pacific Championships, which is a promotion relegation. If we lose this,

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Speaker 32: we get under the second tier while we were going

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Speaker 32: to be playing the likes of Fiji and Cook Islands.

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Speaker 32: So we need to win that to stay in the

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Speaker 32: top tier. Against Tonga and Australia. That's on from eight

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Speaker 32: twenty on Sunday from Sydney, with following the final between

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Speaker 32: Australia and Tonga.

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Speaker 2: Love it mate, good to see you go. The AB's

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Speaker 2: enjoy tomorrow, enjoy the weekends.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 32: And also if you're an insomniac, don't forget the cricket.

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Speaker 32: The black Caps up against Sri Lanka on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh let's go all right, have a great weekend everyone

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Speaker 3: and give them a taste of kiwi from me.

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Speaker 2: Ain't well, You're off to the duned and beer fish

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Speaker 2: just before we quickly wrap up. Enjoy that mate, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 4: They need and Berfest, and tonight I am at the

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Speaker 4: National Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty four awards.

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Speaker 3: That is a great night here in Auckland. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you're down at your fist and you see me,

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Speaker 3: come up and say have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: We will see you next week. See your ladder

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