1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk. Z'd be 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,613 --> 00:00:19,013 Speaker 2: I'll risku you if it is still underway in Mount 4 00:00:19,093 --> 00:00:22,773 Speaker 2: Monganui's beachside holiday park, which was slammed by a landslide 5 00:00:22,813 --> 00:00:25,612 Speaker 2: early this morning. We will of course continue to bring 6 00:00:25,653 --> 00:00:28,173 Speaker 2: you the most up to date information on that as 7 00:00:28,293 --> 00:00:31,533 Speaker 2: it comes through this afternoon. But we are taking your 8 00:00:31,533 --> 00:00:33,373 Speaker 2: calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and text 9 00:00:33,453 --> 00:00:34,373 Speaker 2: on nine two ninety two. 10 00:00:34,453 --> 00:00:37,093 Speaker 3: What's the situation in Fungomatar at the moment? Does anyone 11 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:39,772 Speaker 3: know one hundred eighteen eighty nine two nineteen nineteen. 12 00:00:39,893 --> 00:00:42,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you know what's happening on Funko Matad there's 13 00:00:42,053 --> 00:00:44,053 Speaker 2: a few techs coming through, so we'd love to update 14 00:00:44,053 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 2: you on that. Shane, how are you okay? 15 00:00:48,013 --> 00:00:49,732 Speaker 4: I'm fine? Thank you, Thank you for asking. 16 00:00:49,893 --> 00:00:52,013 Speaker 2: Now, Mate, you were in the mount this morning? 17 00:00:52,092 --> 00:00:52,573 Speaker 1: Is that right? 18 00:00:53,213 --> 00:00:55,093 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I walk around the mount pretty much every 19 00:00:55,093 --> 00:01:00,453 Speaker 4: morning and keet it over this morning as usual. No, yeah, 20 00:01:00,453 --> 00:01:02,093 Speaker 4: I couldn't go so it was runding too much. When 21 00:01:02,133 --> 00:01:04,212 Speaker 4: do I get there this morning? And happened to stop 22 00:01:04,213 --> 00:01:08,333 Speaker 4: at a cafe and talk with somebody before I went. Ah, 23 00:01:08,413 --> 00:01:10,212 Speaker 4: I got talking talking for a bit too long, and 24 00:01:10,253 --> 00:01:11,533 Speaker 4: then I was about to leave and I heard all 25 00:01:11,533 --> 00:01:14,932 Speaker 4: the sirens as I was hitting down Pilot Bay, just 26 00:01:14,973 --> 00:01:16,773 Speaker 4: as the sirens started, and I sort of thought, what 27 00:01:16,973 --> 00:01:20,173 Speaker 4: was on, What's going on? I pulled over and just 28 00:01:20,572 --> 00:01:23,292 Speaker 4: everybody for the council works that started climbing over the 29 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:29,373 Speaker 4: top of the wreckage to try and rescue people. And 30 00:01:29,453 --> 00:01:31,693 Speaker 4: it was a bit of carnage at that point, with 31 00:01:31,973 --> 00:01:36,973 Speaker 4: people running everywhere not knowing what's going on. Hit the 32 00:01:37,013 --> 00:01:40,372 Speaker 4: crap out of me. I mean it was huge, huge, 33 00:01:41,053 --> 00:01:45,213 Speaker 4: It's just a horrible sight, horrible site. Yeah, I'll be it. 34 00:01:45,373 --> 00:01:47,813 Speaker 3: And so you did you hear the first thing you 35 00:01:47,853 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 3: heard was the sirens, though you didn't hear the actually slip. 36 00:01:50,533 --> 00:01:52,733 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't hear the cracking of the trees. 37 00:01:53,733 --> 00:01:55,693 Speaker 4: You heard a person talking just before me about the 38 00:01:55,733 --> 00:01:58,053 Speaker 4: trees being problem, but the slip happened behind the trees. 39 00:01:58,973 --> 00:02:04,892 Speaker 4: It's a big deep face on the slip, very steep. Yeah. 40 00:02:04,973 --> 00:02:07,573 Speaker 4: Although it's funny because I walk around the mound, like 41 00:02:07,573 --> 00:02:10,693 Speaker 4: I said, every day and I'm kind of I look 42 00:02:10,773 --> 00:02:12,373 Speaker 4: at things. I was on a farm up north and 43 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:14,093 Speaker 4: I had slips there, and I look at things where 44 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:15,933 Speaker 4: slips have been, and there's been a lot of slips 45 00:02:15,973 --> 00:02:18,453 Speaker 4: obviously historically in the past on the mount you can 46 00:02:18,493 --> 00:02:22,213 Speaker 4: see those lumping areas, and I keep thinking to myself 47 00:02:22,293 --> 00:02:24,532 Speaker 4: every time I walk around, is this going to slip? 48 00:02:24,613 --> 00:02:25,333 Speaker 4: Is this gone? Right? 49 00:02:25,893 --> 00:02:27,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting because because because for me, it has 50 00:02:27,933 --> 00:02:30,133 Speaker 3: always just looked like an incredibly solid I mean, I 51 00:02:30,173 --> 00:02:32,893 Speaker 3: obviously don't have the the eyes or the knowledge to 52 00:02:32,933 --> 00:02:35,093 Speaker 3: know what's what's a slippy better, what has even slipped? 53 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:37,933 Speaker 3: I guess because I always just thought, boy, that that's 54 00:02:37,972 --> 00:02:39,532 Speaker 3: just solid, so solid. 55 00:02:39,613 --> 00:02:43,933 Speaker 4: Yet I can recognize now where areas are slumped and 56 00:02:43,972 --> 00:02:45,773 Speaker 4: fields and things on my farm where we had a 57 00:02:45,773 --> 00:02:48,733 Speaker 4: few slips, and these are historic ones that are grown over, 58 00:02:48,773 --> 00:02:50,933 Speaker 4: but you can definitely see they were slumping and slipping 59 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:54,853 Speaker 4: from the past. Obviously they've had rock fall substantial ones 60 00:02:54,893 --> 00:02:59,413 Speaker 4: over the past few years. But but this was a big, 61 00:02:59,532 --> 00:03:02,373 Speaker 4: big slip and it wasn't rocks. It was all dirt 62 00:03:02,413 --> 00:03:02,972 Speaker 4: and quite yeah. 63 00:03:03,093 --> 00:03:06,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, an element And look, we don't know yet and 64 00:03:06,613 --> 00:03:08,813 Speaker 2: the recovery if it is still on going, and the 65 00:03:08,853 --> 00:03:11,252 Speaker 2: rescue if it's still ongoing, but it does seem when 66 00:03:11,252 --> 00:03:12,893 Speaker 2: you've got an event like this, and what do we 67 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 2: hear from Brian Kelly, a man on the ground, and 68 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:17,493 Speaker 2: other experts that this is the most rain they've ever 69 00:03:17,573 --> 00:03:20,732 Speaker 2: had since records began. And when you try and predict 70 00:03:21,173 --> 00:03:25,293 Speaker 2: a piece of land, or you know whether a landslip 71 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:27,773 Speaker 2: is going to occur, how can you and those sort 72 00:03:27,773 --> 00:03:31,493 Speaker 2: of events if you've never experienced that, it's very difficult 73 00:03:31,493 --> 00:03:34,733 Speaker 2: for gootech engineers to be across everything and say, Okay, 74 00:03:34,773 --> 00:03:37,013 Speaker 2: that might be in danger, that might be in danger. 75 00:03:37,053 --> 00:03:39,693 Speaker 2: It just seems there's an element of unpredictability with some 76 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:40,213 Speaker 2: of these shows. 77 00:03:40,293 --> 00:03:43,413 Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely right, and far be it from 78 00:03:43,453 --> 00:03:45,413 Speaker 4: me to try and point blame at anybody, because that's 79 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:47,853 Speaker 4: not what I'm about. But I will say that the 80 00:03:47,893 --> 00:03:52,333 Speaker 4: mount track circumnavigating the mount has had significant slips over 81 00:03:52,373 --> 00:03:55,613 Speaker 4: the last few years where they've had to go in 82 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:57,973 Speaker 4: and do remedial work. So it's not uncommon for it 83 00:03:58,013 --> 00:04:02,973 Speaker 4: to happen around the actual the mount itself, certainly nothing 84 00:04:02,973 --> 00:04:07,373 Speaker 4: as big as what this one was, but it's obviously 85 00:04:07,413 --> 00:04:11,293 Speaker 4: not that stable. And and this these people camping like 86 00:04:11,533 --> 00:04:13,493 Speaker 4: it's gone into the hot pools. It's taken out some 87 00:04:13,573 --> 00:04:15,453 Speaker 4: of the hot it's in there. A caravan was upside 88 00:04:15,453 --> 00:04:19,613 Speaker 4: down on its side and where the pool was, and 89 00:04:19,933 --> 00:04:22,733 Speaker 4: I was looking at that, you know, and unfortunately everybody's 90 00:04:22,733 --> 00:04:24,893 Speaker 4: gotten out of the pool. But the pools were emptying 91 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:26,853 Speaker 4: out with the brown water just emptying out through the 92 00:04:26,853 --> 00:04:30,293 Speaker 4: car park because of all the displacement from from the 93 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:33,253 Speaker 4: mud that had gone into them, and the buildings sort 94 00:04:33,253 --> 00:04:35,413 Speaker 4: of crushed and upside down, the caravan sticking out of 95 00:04:35,413 --> 00:04:39,373 Speaker 4: the mud. It's bloody awful. It was horrendous to hit 96 00:04:39,373 --> 00:04:42,973 Speaker 4: the ablution block. Yeah, it hit the ablution block and 97 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:45,413 Speaker 4: from there right across to the pools. 98 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:46,173 Speaker 1: Wow. 99 00:04:47,013 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 4: So yes, right into the pools. The pools is about it, 100 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:51,853 Speaker 4: really because they're full of mud and dirt and whatever. 101 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:53,773 Speaker 4: So didn't you, I. 102 00:04:53,773 --> 00:04:56,653 Speaker 2: Mean, desperately sad and we're all hoping for the best 103 00:04:56,653 --> 00:04:59,813 Speaker 2: outcome as the recovery if it continues. Are you so? 104 00:05:00,053 --> 00:05:01,733 Speaker 2: Are you in the mountain now, Shane? Or you were 105 00:05:01,813 --> 00:05:02,573 Speaker 2: just there this morning? 106 00:05:03,413 --> 00:05:05,213 Speaker 4: I was there this morning. I'm back. I'm back over 107 00:05:05,253 --> 00:05:07,773 Speaker 4: at tower or at the moment, but yeah, I was. 108 00:05:07,853 --> 00:05:09,452 Speaker 4: I was there and then I sort of thought, ohee, 109 00:05:09,493 --> 00:05:11,493 Speaker 4: I a bitter go move my car because a lot 110 00:05:11,493 --> 00:05:13,013 Speaker 4: of appliants as were coming on. I mean there was 111 00:05:13,053 --> 00:05:16,933 Speaker 4: there was thirty cop cars coming and fire brigade ambulances 112 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:19,373 Speaker 4: from everywhere and then no closing off road, so I 113 00:05:19,373 --> 00:05:23,413 Speaker 4: was able to move my car out. Yeah, there was 114 00:05:23,413 --> 00:05:26,173 Speaker 4: search and rescue people coming, helicopter was coming, and they 115 00:05:26,213 --> 00:05:31,813 Speaker 4: all went very very quickly. Yeah, they were very quick 116 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:37,733 Speaker 4: to get in there. Yeah, And it was almost like 117 00:05:37,093 --> 00:05:39,413 Speaker 4: that some guys from the camera around herd and say, oh, 118 00:05:39,413 --> 00:05:41,253 Speaker 4: we have to evacuate the whole campgroun because they didn't 119 00:05:41,253 --> 00:05:42,893 Speaker 4: know if any moore was going to come down, but 120 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:46,853 Speaker 4: just where it did come down, that's very quite steep there, 121 00:05:47,053 --> 00:05:50,013 Speaker 4: and they'd closed the track behind that some some years 122 00:05:50,013 --> 00:05:51,893 Speaker 4: back because it was unstable, and there's a lot of 123 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:54,653 Speaker 4: people camp under that, you know, And I did I 124 00:05:54,653 --> 00:05:56,813 Speaker 4: did read where a person was then went out fishing 125 00:05:56,853 --> 00:05:59,653 Speaker 4: and he heard some small slips and cracks and he 126 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:01,573 Speaker 4: went and worked some people up in the tents and says, hey, 127 00:06:01,613 --> 00:06:02,973 Speaker 4: you guys, you might want to move because I think 128 00:06:02,973 --> 00:06:04,533 Speaker 4: there's something happening. Right. 129 00:06:05,093 --> 00:06:06,693 Speaker 3: When was that was that recently? 130 00:06:06,773 --> 00:06:09,013 Speaker 4: That was before it happened this morning, like an hour 131 00:06:09,293 --> 00:06:12,613 Speaker 4: before it happened. So from what I from what I 132 00:06:12,653 --> 00:06:14,733 Speaker 4: was reading, he did manage to move some people out, 133 00:06:14,853 --> 00:06:16,413 Speaker 4: not knowing there was going to be a big slip 134 00:06:16,413 --> 00:06:17,933 Speaker 4: coming down. There was some little ones at me. 135 00:06:20,133 --> 00:06:22,813 Speaker 3: Good, Hey, thank you so much for your call, Shane. 136 00:06:23,013 --> 00:06:25,853 Speaker 2: It is one of those, you know, And and again 137 00:06:25,933 --> 00:06:28,733 Speaker 2: this is a it's an ongoing situation. But I think 138 00:06:28,773 --> 00:06:30,493 Speaker 2: when it comes to land sides, I'll put my hand 139 00:06:30,573 --> 00:06:33,453 Speaker 2: up and say I'm naive to the ferocity and how 140 00:06:33,533 --> 00:06:36,013 Speaker 2: dangerous they could be. And I have never been in 141 00:06:36,053 --> 00:06:38,573 Speaker 2: a situation really where it might be at risk of 142 00:06:38,653 --> 00:06:41,693 Speaker 2: something going down. But can you understand, you know, what 143 00:06:41,733 --> 00:06:45,013 Speaker 2: I'm getting at here is that when it might feel 144 00:06:45,053 --> 00:06:47,093 Speaker 2: like a piece of land is moving wherever you are, 145 00:06:47,173 --> 00:06:48,973 Speaker 2: and someone says it might not be a good idea 146 00:06:48,973 --> 00:06:51,133 Speaker 2: to say that there, you know, sometimes there is the 147 00:06:51,693 --> 00:06:54,093 Speaker 2: it'll be right. You know that I'm not in danger here. 148 00:06:54,133 --> 00:06:56,613 Speaker 2: I can I can get out fast enough that it's 149 00:06:56,653 --> 00:06:59,453 Speaker 2: not going to impact me. But it's just not the reality. 150 00:06:59,493 --> 00:07:02,533 Speaker 2: When these slips come down, they are fast, deadly, and 151 00:07:03,133 --> 00:07:04,373 Speaker 2: you know you can't outrun them. 152 00:07:04,653 --> 00:07:07,333 Speaker 1: For more from news talks, there'd be listen live on 153 00:07:07,373 --> 00:07:09,893 Speaker 1: air or on lane and keep our shows with you 154 00:07:09,973 --> 00:07:12,933 Speaker 1: wherever you go. With our podcasts on iHeartRadio.