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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 2: coverage likely no one else.

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Speaker 1: News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. Coming up today, David Seymour on

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Speaker 4: the changes that he's making to the school lunches program.

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Speaker 4: We're going to get you across the proposed breakaway T

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Speaker 4: twenty competition. This is the cricket. We'll also get you

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Speaker 4: across the new twenty two hour Quantus flight to London.

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Speaker 4: And I've read the report that kicked off the Dame

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Speaker 4: Noles dramas. I'm going to read some.

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Speaker 1: Bits to you, Heather dupericy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: So it's over. The Andrew, formerly known as Prince, is

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Speaker 4: now just Andrew mount Batton Winsor. He is just a

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Speaker 4: regular civilian muggle. It was announced last week, of course,

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Speaker 4: but the stripping of the prince ship only formally happened overnight.

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Speaker 4: And how it happened was that Charles issued a letter's

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Speaker 4: patent under the Great Seal of the Realm, and he

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Speaker 4: decreed that Andrew mount Batten Winsor shall no longer be

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Speaker 4: entitle to hold and enjoy the style, title or attribute

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Speaker 4: of his Royal Highness and the titch dignity of Prince. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think, for the most part, least for the royals themselves,

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Speaker 4: the bleeding is stemmed here. The damage has been stopped, right,

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Speaker 4: it's cut off now. The thing is, the rot is out.

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Speaker 4: But make no mistake how bad this has been for them.

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Speaker 4: They are going to pay for this for a while.

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Speaker 4: And what's been bad about this is not so much

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Speaker 4: what Andrew did or did not do, because you can

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Speaker 4: look at the guy and you could go it's just Andrew,

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Speaker 4: gross old Andrew. But what's been damaging to them is

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Speaker 4: what's been revealed about them. That they let him live

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Speaker 4: in Royal Lodge without paying really anything in the way

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Speaker 4: of rent for about twenty years. And the suspicion that's

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Speaker 4: now developed, and I think this is worse, the suspicion

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Speaker 4: that's now developed that the Queen's own money was used

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Speaker 4: to pay off Virginia Dufray so that her jubilee year

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Speaker 4: wasn't spoiled. The sense that they tried to hide this

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Speaker 4: stuff from the public, that they went out of their

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Speaker 4: way to hide this stuff. That's the most damaging thing here, really,

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Speaker 4: And they will continue to pay for this for years,

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Speaker 4: because tripping him of his princeship is shattering the illusion,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. I mean, there's something magical about the royal family,

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Speaker 4: even though we know, really in our hearts so that

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Speaker 4: there's just humans like the rest of us. There is

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Speaker 4: something mystical about the fact that they can track their

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Speaker 4: royal lineage back over a thousand years. They are humans, yes,

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Speaker 4: but they're the best of humans. You have to be

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Speaker 4: born into that special little club until you realize actually

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Speaker 4: they're not the best of humans after all. It turns

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Speaker 4: out princes aren't that special. It's just a title. It

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Speaker 4: can be taken away, and it has been taken away,

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Speaker 4: and that shatters the illusion.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they are in any kind of immediate

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Speaker 4: trouble as a family, but we all know that the

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Speaker 4: allure and the power of the Royal family diminishes with

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Speaker 4: every passing generation, and more and more countries consider republicanism

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Speaker 4: as they as the Royals become more and more irrelevant. Well,

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Speaker 4: Andrew hasn't changed that, He's just sped that up.

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Speaker 1: Ever, duper c ellens.

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Speaker 4: Heather Andrew Mountbatten Windsor still sounds flash Well that's true.

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Speaker 4: Nine two nights who is the text under standard text

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Speaker 4: fees apply now the government's boosting incentives to bring Hollywood

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Speaker 4: a twenty five percent rebate on what they spend here.

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Speaker 4: That's up from twenty percent, and it's all about making

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Speaker 4: New Zealand more competitive. On the other hand, Australia offers

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Speaker 4: up to forty percent, Canada and the UK around thirty

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Speaker 4: Post production and visual effects companies like Wet Effects can

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Speaker 4: apply for this as well. Now with us to discuss,

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Speaker 4: we have Annie Murray, the head of the New Zealand

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Speaker 4: Film Commission, and Harry Harrison, who's the vice chair of

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Speaker 4: Screen New Zealand International. Hire you too, Harry, Are we

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Speaker 4: actually competitive though? Because I just read you those numbers right,

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Speaker 4: we're at twenty five percent, but Australia is at forty percent.

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Speaker 6: Well, not all of Australia is at forty percent, and

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Speaker 6: there are some underlying factors here in New Zealand that

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Speaker 6: there's an exchange rate differential anywhere between Australia and New

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Speaker 6: doing business benefits of being in New Zealand that don't

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Speaker 7: We're a more.

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Speaker 6: Efficient business model here in New Zealand, which it's kind

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Speaker 6: but we can sort of stack up. The forty percent

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Speaker 6: in Australia really doesn't apply to all productions. There are

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Speaker 6: that's not even guaranteed either. So I think what we

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Speaker 6: have as a twenty plus five incentive that gets you

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Speaker 6: to twenty five, that's certain. It's quite straightforward. It does

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Speaker 6: allow us to punch a bobber weight. It's if we

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Speaker 6: were at thirty or forty percent, we would be the

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Speaker 6: most globally competitive country in the world. I wish we

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Speaker 6: were sort of higher, but it's it allows us to

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Speaker 4: What's brought us on Harry? Has there been a lack

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Speaker 6: There has been, There has been the last since September

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Speaker 8: There is a global.

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Speaker 6: The business model, the studio streaming business model has changed.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't sustainable. There's been consolidation, fewer projects, lower budgets,

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Speaker 6: and you know, when the world is busy and usually

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Speaker 6: a bit quieter, it's a lot harder for us to

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Speaker 6: distance makes a difference.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe that. Annie, listen, can you explain to

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Speaker 4: as just a backdoor bailout for wetter effects. Is that

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened here is that the visual effects companies

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Speaker 3: have always been able to apply for a rebate. What

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Speaker 3: this does is it brings the very high value ones

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Speaker 3: So live action have always been able to apply for

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Speaker 3: the extra five percent, So now we're matching that of

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Speaker 3: the visual effects company is able to do the same.

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Speaker 4: Now, Annie, do you think what are you hearing? Are

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Speaker 4: people interested in this? People want to make some films here?

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Speaker 3: Very interested?

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Speaker 6: Yes, we have names for us.

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Speaker 7: Annie, Oh, I.

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Speaker 3: Can't do that.

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Speaker 3: They are all confidential business discussions. But philipon Mossman from

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Speaker 3: having conversations saying, look, these are some of the things

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Speaker 3: how would that look for you? And there was a

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Speaker 4: Harry, do you know anything about what's going on with

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Speaker 6: I don't know if anything's going on with them. It

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Speaker 6: was it was a tweet. It's not policy, and my

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Speaker 6: are a number of other initiatives that they would prefer

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Speaker 4: Harry, you sounding you're making it sound like he sent

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Speaker 4: a tweet and he's not planning to do it. Is

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Speaker 4: that what you think is going on?

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Speaker 6: I believe that the US industry is urging the government

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Speaker 3: Are you as hopeful as this any Well, what we've

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Speaker 3: California's done that New York has as well. So Harry's right,

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Speaker 3: there has been an industry response which has meant that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, guys, listen, thanks very much. I hope it

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Speaker 4: goes as well as you think it will. Annie Murray,

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Speaker 4: he gain? Should he do that? And they're going to

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Speaker 4: put the pressure and blah blah, blah. Anyway, Gavin Gray,

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Speaker 4: So I what a.

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Speaker 10: Dumped me for those two things, But I appreciate that

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Speaker 4: I know I want to hear what you've got to

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Speaker 4: talk about, which is the All Blacks. How's it going

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Speaker 10: I think they'll be okay. I like the team that's

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Speaker 10: beat the All Blacks. They've never done it. Thirty losses

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Speaker 10: If that means anything, I guess there'll be some extra

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Speaker 10: Blacks team the way they played against Ireland, particularly in

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Speaker 10: as though if they go out there with the same intent,

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Speaker 10: the playoff they've got coming. In so long winded way

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Speaker 4: Did I read correctly that we have played against them,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I mean we don't play them every year,

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Speaker 10: but I did read a stat that they talked about fortresses,

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Speaker 4: You could judge for yourself based on what I've just read.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cela, Right, Well, the.

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Speaker 13: News Talks by it's a little good news, don't any mean.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather dupic Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: like no one else.

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Speaker 1: News Talks ad b.

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Speaker 4: Lord, have you seen the latest little Marty Party? Yep, yep,

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Speaker 4: that's still at it so much for that Sea spy

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Speaker 4: Hopefully people will look at it from both sides now, Heather,

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Speaker 4: YEA twenty four away from five.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks drive hundreds of.

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Speaker 4: Flights from the US have been canceled because of the

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Speaker 11: You know, at any given moment over the United States,

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Speaker 4: And finally, a police officer has come to the rescue

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Speaker 4: Pet's name is Breakfast. The pig's name is Breakfast. This

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 19: medical insurance is the key to getting access to healthcare.

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Speaker 19: But these deals are going to make it a little

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Speaker 19: bit easier for people, overweight people to get access to

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Speaker 19: this drug. And we heard doctor Oz TVs owned doctor Roz,

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Speaker 19: who's now part of the Trump administration, sprooking and selling

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Speaker 19: this very much with a political message in mind ahead

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Speaker 19: of next year's midterms, insisting that Americans could lose some

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Speaker 19: sixty one billion kilograms combined because of this deal. I

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Speaker 19: don't quite know how you work out those numbers, but

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Speaker 19: somebody's drawn them up on the back of a napkin

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Speaker 19: and presented them to it and he's read them out

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Speaker 19: in front of the world.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: What would you do if you've got a trillion dollars?

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Speaker 20: Ah?

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Speaker 19: What could you do with the trillion dollars? I mean,

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Speaker 19: you could probably fly yourself to Mars, you could probably

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Speaker 19: buy yourself a fair few islands. You could have more

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Speaker 19: money than the GDP of some Pacific island nations. It's

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Speaker 19: just extraordinary. This Elon Musk deal, isn't it. It's going

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Speaker 19: to equate over the next ten years, or it could

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Speaker 19: equate to two hundred and seventy five million dollars a day.

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Speaker 5: That's how big this paid deal is for him.

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Speaker 19: It's just I mean, you can live off the interest

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Speaker 19: of a fraction of that. I mean, come on alone,

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Speaker 19: spread them well.

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Speaker 4: I reckon, I share it around. Thank you very much, Jonathan,

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Jonathan Kurzley, US correspondent, nineteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Here the Duplessy hour.

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Speaker 4: Ye listen, the school lunches thing has changed because obviously

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Speaker 4: going for three dollars a meal is just was not

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Speaker 4: going to work because the compass group was not going

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Speaker 4: to work. So as a result, David sem was going

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Speaker 4: to spread it out to ten different providers. Are the

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Speaker 4: ad the meals are going to cost now about three

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Speaker 4: dollars fifty there can be as much as five dollars,

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Speaker 4: And he's going to be with us to talk us

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Speaker 4: through that. After five o'clock. Let me get you across

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Speaker 4: what's going on with cricket. Okay, So there are reports

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Speaker 4: today and they are from conversations I've had. It is

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Speaker 4: I'm not even going to tell you these are reports.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to tell you what I know. Okay,

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Speaker 4: there are moves to set up a Rebel cricket competition.

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Speaker 4: When I say rebel, just like it is an independent

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Speaker 4: T twenty cricket competition. It will be privately owned, so

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Speaker 4: it's not going to be owned by New Zealand Cricket

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Speaker 4: runs in January every year. A bunch of former Black

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Speaker 4: Caps are involved, Stephen flem and Daniel Vittori and so on. Also,

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Speaker 4: David Howman, who used to run WADA and is currently

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Speaker 4: the chair of Wellington Crickets, is apparently involved as well.

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Speaker 4: They've gone as far as registering a bunch of names

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Speaker 4: at the company's office for it. The Players Association is

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Speaker 4: apparently involved in this as well, has been reportedly touring

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Speaker 4: the country selling the idea to players. Howard would work. Basically,

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Speaker 4: it sounds like all six major provinces loved the idea

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Speaker 4: and they would basically represent the teams from the sounds

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Speaker 4: of things, so you have Auckland, Wellington, Canterbury, Otago, Northern

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Speaker 4: districts of Central Districts and New Zealand Cricket got wind

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Speaker 4: of this in about September, and so it cuts their

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Speaker 4: lunch right because if it runs in January, it means

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Speaker 4: we're going to start watching this T twenty competition, which

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Speaker 4: is going to be like the Big Bash in Australia,

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Speaker 4: or like the South African one, or like a mini

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Speaker 4: version of the IPL. It would be running here in January,

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Speaker 4: which means you're going to start watching the T twenty

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Speaker 4: because it's going to be as exciting as all hell,

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Speaker 4: and you're not going to watch the domestic competition. Hoe

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Speaker 4: watches the domestic competition. No one watches the domestic competition.

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Speaker 4: So this is a fantastic idea, but it does cut

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Speaker 4: into seas lunch New Zealand Cricket's lunch because what little

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Speaker 4: money they get from the domestic competition is going to evaporate.

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Speaker 4: Is we're going to be watching this and also they

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Speaker 4: lose the power and everybody hates it when they lose

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Speaker 4: the power. So when they heard about it in September,

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Speaker 4: they got the consultants Delutte involved and they started they

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Speaker 4: wanted Deloitte to do a report on is this the

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Speaker 4: right way to do things?

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Speaker 21: Is this what?

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Speaker 4: And then it all went to all the players Association

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Speaker 4: and the major provinces and stuff. Was like, let's talk

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Speaker 4: about it, and they all apparently went, nah, not going

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Speaker 4: to talk to you about it. So it's unfortunate because

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Speaker 4: New Zealand Cricket realizes it's definitely happening. We can't do

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Speaker 4: anything to stop it. Anyway. I think this is a

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Speaker 4: great idea. I'm full noise into this. We're going to

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Speaker 4: talk to Dylan Cleve. No one is talking about it right,

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Speaker 4: no one wants to talk about it for obvious reasons

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Speaker 4: because the cat's out of the bag. We're going to

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Speaker 4: talk to Dylan Cleaver, a Herald sport writer, about this

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Speaker 4: after five o'clock and if he says it's good, then

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Speaker 4: you know it's good. Sixteen away from five politics.

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Speaker 2: Next politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 4: It's fourteen away from five with me. Right now, we

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Speaker 4: have Azaria Howell, who's of course in our press gallery

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Speaker 4: down here Newstalks been down in the press gallery. Hello

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Speaker 4: is Isaria.

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Speaker 22: Hello, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: It's good to have you with us. Okay, So tell

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Speaker 4: me what Edu Kappa KINGI said.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, eduk KAPAKINGI, who's been the spokesperson for toy two.

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Speaker 22: Te tid T obviously spoke about the split from tet

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Speaker 22: Patti Malti before. He's doubling down on those concerns about

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Speaker 22: the leadership of tet Patti Maldi. The last name Kappa

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Speaker 22: Kingiy obviously a familiar one to lots of people. Edu Kappakingi,

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Speaker 22: the son of Maria Meno Kappa Kingi, who the CO

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Speaker 22: leaders have earlier this week called rogue. So today we've

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Speaker 22: had an update from Edu Kappa Kingy in terms of

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Speaker 22: what he wants to see from Tepatzi Maldi.

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Speaker 16: THEO needs to be a reframing and a genuine resetting

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Speaker 16: of the coppoppa, a new leadership, a new executive model.

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Speaker 22: So again he's calling for John Tammyhadi to step down

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Speaker 22: as the party president and we'll look back. In terms

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Speaker 22: of the situation with the EWE Chairs Forum, they've confirmed

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Speaker 22: that MP Takutaferis, who was also called rogue by the

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Speaker 22: CO leaders, has agreed to a meeting next week. There's

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Speaker 22: no confirmation though from Mariamno as to where things are at.

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Speaker 22: I tried to speak to her actually a bit earlier

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Speaker 22: in the week. I said how are you? She said good,

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Speaker 22: but then said, I'm sure you want to know how

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Speaker 22: I actually am. I said, of course I did, but

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Speaker 22: then she said she couldn't say anything, So maybe one

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Speaker 22: for people to read into. Edo Kappakini, though also throwing

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Speaker 22: a further allegation into the mix here. Tepati Maldi had

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Speaker 22: previously emailed supporters with a link to documents containing serious allegations,

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Speaker 22: including that claimed that Edu Kappa Kingi allegedly threatened security

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Speaker 22: staff and also that there were alleged consumers zons of

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Speaker 22: an overspend a his mum's office. Eduk Kapakini responded to

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Speaker 22: these in a social media social media rather video today,

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Speaker 22: accusing Tapatimori of using this sort of as a distraction technique.

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Speaker 16: All of those things alies, but even if they were true,

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Speaker 16: what does that have to do with what I called

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Speaker 16: them out for in the first place, of being a

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Speaker 16: toxic leadership environment. There was all an effort and that

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Speaker 16: is an effort to deflect away from the truth and

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Speaker 16: to not actually address the issues that are happening inside,

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Speaker 16: which proves my point that this is a leadership beyond accountability,

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Speaker 16: beyond integrity, and beyond honesty.

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Speaker 22: Well, a previous EWEE chairs for a meeting suggested that

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Speaker 22: people involved with this should stop getting into these social

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Speaker 22: media fights. That has seemingly not come through though a

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Speaker 22: to Edu Kappakini. Also Kitty Tummy Hitty who's the wife

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Speaker 22: of Rahwudi Waitetti and John Tummyhitty's daughter, who also claims

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Speaker 22: that she's previously stayed silent and now is the chance

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Speaker 22: for her to speak. So both of them posting quite

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Speaker 22: significant things on social media. But for now, really all

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Speaker 22: eyes will be on the Takuta Feris meeting next week

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Speaker 22: and really what else plays out on social media over

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Speaker 22: the weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Now it sounds to me like the boot camp's

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Speaker 4: pilot actually didn't give us anything worthwhile.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Well, the final report into that youth Offender Military style

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Speaker 22: Academy pilot that's been released and it does show what

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Speaker 22: we were expecting. Really, reoffending did occur, although they do

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Speaker 22: say it was a lesser scale than those who did

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Speaker 22: not attend. Overall, oddo Atamadiki. They're saying that there are

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Speaker 22: aspects of this one that have been a success. The

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Speaker 22: report has found improvements in mental health outcomes as well,

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Speaker 22: but the agency is really promising to learn lessons as well.

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Speaker 22: From this, the report shows a few things that could

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Speaker 22: have been done better. Cultural elements could have been strengthened,

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Speaker 22: that's what they say, and also spoke about the pace

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Speaker 22: of change. They said the rapid pace of design and development,

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Speaker 22: short time frames for implementation also restructures at ot. You know,

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Speaker 22: having a better time frame would have allowed that to

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Speaker 22: be to roll out better in terms of the style academies,

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Speaker 22: but there is more time for a further rollout something

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Speaker 22: that is potentially on the cards on an Atamadiki's military

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Speaker 22: style academy programs. Lead Janet Mays, who spoke about that

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Speaker 22: legislation for young serious offenders, says that this sort of

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Speaker 22: still appears to be before the House and is talking

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Speaker 22: about what the work is going on now.

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Speaker 23: What we're doing is working behind the scenes on planning

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Speaker 23: for future iterations of the military style academy penning the

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Speaker 23: outcome of that legislation.

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Speaker 22: So still on the cards, but lessons will be learned

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Speaker 22: from the first iterations the boot camps in the future,

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Speaker 22: though if they do happen, expected to look a little

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Speaker 22: bit different. Chris Hepkins, though, is here accusing the government

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Speaker 22: of trying to sort of dress up the results to

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Speaker 22: make them look a bit better.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, thank you very much, Azaria appreciated. Azaria, how seeing

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Speaker 4: your political correspondent. This is the kind of thing.

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Speaker 16: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I just I can't get over the stuff with the

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Speaker 4: Malori party. This is it a kupakini. Even though I

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Speaker 4: knew that this was going to play out in this way,

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Speaker 4: He basically says when he went when he split from

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Speaker 4: the party, he knew that it was going to be

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Speaker 4: dragged through the media. I didn't care, and I still

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Speaker 4: don't care. There might be some kind of reputational damage,

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Speaker 4: but I've never really given a shit about about that. Now,

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Speaker 4: how do people vote for this nonsense? I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is not how professional adults behave right, If you're having

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Speaker 4: a fight with somebody, if you having a bit of

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Speaker 4: a disagreement with somebody in your outfit, you don't go

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Speaker 4: on social media and have a rant about them, which

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Speaker 4: is just weird, aren't they? Eight away from five?

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast is Trump?

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Speaker 24: Tariff's a Supreme Court and the potential fallout if you

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Speaker 24: can't convince the justices. Bill Ranch is a former United

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Speaker 24: States Undersecretary for commerce for industry and security. Would you

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Speaker 24: expect the Supreme Court to rule against the administration?

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Speaker 1: Hard to tell.

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Speaker 25: My current thinking is yes, they probably will go against

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Speaker 25: the president, either five to four or maybe six to three.

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Speaker 24: Okay, if they do that, are refunds going to be

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Speaker 24: the outworking or is that not real?

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Speaker 25: Well, under the law they should be provided the administration

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Speaker 25: can make it hard or easy. Trump may not want

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Speaker 25: to give them money back, but if the Justice's rule

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Speaker 25: that the terrorists were illegally collective, he'll have to give

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Speaker 25: them back back.

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Speaker 24: Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a

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Speaker 24: Vida News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Zb Ah, Heather, these guys in the Martyr Party are

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Speaker 4: showing a sad, low, ineffective level of an emotional maturity.

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Speaker 4: Well that's one way of putting it a five away

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Speaker 4: from five. Now listen, I was listening to the news

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Speaker 4: last night, This is the Tally News. It was TV three.

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Speaker 4: I was watching it and they were covering off labor

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Speaker 4: rolling out the free civical screening. You know, there was

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Speaker 4: a policy yesterday and then this happened. It's already free

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Speaker 4: for some freehiel Maori specific and have a community services.

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Speaker 10: Cart if Labor succeeds at the twenty twenty six elections,

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Speaker 10: screening will be free for all women aged twenty five

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Speaker 10: to sixty nine.

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Speaker 4: I was a surprise to me because I thought we

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Speaker 4: weren't doing that stuff anymore, where some people get free

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Speaker 4: stuff because they are of a certain ethnicity and other

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Speaker 4: people don't get it because they're of the wrong ethnicity.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, David Seymour's with it. David Seymour, he said

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Speaker 4: he was going to stop this stuff, so he's with us.

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Speaker 4: Next on another man, I might ask him a question

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Speaker 4: about that, and just a tick Quantus. Now, Quantus has

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Speaker 4: has unveiled the plane that's going to fly the twenty

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Speaker 4: two hours. This is the Sydney to London route that

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Speaker 4: they're going to be doing. The plane is in a

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Speaker 4: three fifty one thousand ul R and the ULR stands

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Speaker 4: for ultralong range, so the name is a a three

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Speaker 4: fifty one thousand ultra long range plane and they've unveiled

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Speaker 4: this as the plane to get us excited about this thing.

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Speaker 4: I think this is only this is going to start

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Speaker 4: taking off in early twenty twenty seven. You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to wait a little while to be able to. But

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Speaker 4: the question is what I mean, is this going to

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Speaker 4: become our preferred route to be flying over to London?

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Speaker 4: Like you could, you could do whatever. The thing is

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Speaker 4: that in New Zealand sort of halfway does for you

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Speaker 4: or you know whatever, you can go on various ways,

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Speaker 4: go Singapore or do whatever. Or do you want to

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Speaker 4: just fly over to Sydney and then do that little route?

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Speaker 4: Is that going to be the one that gets you

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Speaker 4: there and the best way anyway? I don't know. Twenty

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Speaker 4: two hours on a plane. Oh, you'd have to be

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Speaker 4: in business to make that work because anything else would

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Speaker 4: just be an absolute punished for your butt, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk to Jeff Thomas about this as

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Speaker 4: to whether this is a game changer or not. They've

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Speaker 4: also have you seen the new class They've got economy

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Speaker 4: plus Economy plus it's an upgraded economy. Does it sound

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Speaker 4: a little bit like hmm, maybe premium economy? Like maybe

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Speaker 4: Cam Wallace who was at in New Zealand and then

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Speaker 4: went to Quantus went to Quantus and went, hey, I've

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Speaker 4: got an idea. They're doing a thing called premium economy.

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Speaker 4: How about we do it? We call it economy. Plus

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Speaker 4: we'll say it's not the same thing, but it really

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Speaker 4: is anyway, Jeff Thomas, as I say with us in

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Speaker 4: about twenty minutes time, heither read the Dame Noles report

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Speaker 4: that you read out. Can you confirm this is the

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Speaker 4: report from the only two to seven players who can play,

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Speaker 4: not the full thirty one players and staff. Yes, it's

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Speaker 4: only those, Heather. If what you read out is correct,

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Speaker 4: then at least some of the netball players concerns are

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Speaker 4: well founded. You can't have a couch a coach hand,

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Speaker 4: having favorites or applying agreed rules inconsistently. Here that these

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Speaker 4: silver fern players need to get a grip. High performance

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Speaker 4: sports players need to be mentally tough, not socki bubbers

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Speaker 4: or talk to the sports huddle about that they're going

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Speaker 4: to be with us after the half past news right now,

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Speaker 4: though US is coming at you fast.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: you get the answers, find the fag sack and give

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Speaker 2: the analysis. Here the duplicy el and Drive with One

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and the Power of Satellite Mobile newsorgsai B.

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Speaker 4: Afternoon, the school lunch program is getting a shakeout. The

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Speaker 4: beleaguered caterer Compass Group has been dropped as a supplier

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Speaker 4: to primary schools. Ten other suppliers have been chosen and

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Speaker 4: while the intermediate and secondary meals cost about three dollars,

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Speaker 4: the primary meals will cost up to five dollars. David

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Speaker 4: Seymour is the Associate Education Minister and with US now

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Speaker 4: hi David hey, is this a vote of no confidence

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Speaker 4: in Compass?

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Speaker 1: Not at all?

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Speaker 14: Will continue to deliver meals for the high schools and intermediates?

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Speaker 14: I would guess that is actually the bulk of the

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Speaker 14: meals that we are delivering. They faced some very big

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Speaker 14: challenges that weren't of they're making a subcontractor failed in

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Speaker 14: term one of this year. There was a lot of

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Speaker 14: publicity around that we fixed it with the help of Compass,

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Speaker 14: and that's why they continue to supply the bulk of meals.

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Speaker 5: Why is the.

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Speaker 4: Meals costing a little bit more with the primary schools.

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Speaker 17: Well that they're not.

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Speaker 14: All of the prices have gone up from the starting

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Speaker 14: point of three dollars, but there are some which are

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Speaker 14: more expensive because they are in hard to serve areas

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Speaker 14: out in remote parts of the country. Those ones are

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Speaker 14: nudging up towards five dollars, others are a lot lower,

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Speaker 14: and that gives you an average of three dollars forty six.

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Speaker 4: Did you see that the Ministry of Education has written

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Speaker 4: to Glory of Christian School.

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Speaker 14: I hadn't seen that, but I'm not surprised. Surprised, Well,

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Speaker 14: I think the stories that have come out of that

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Speaker 14: place for a long time are pretty serious. And the

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Speaker 14: obligation to give each child in this country, no matter

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Speaker 14: who they are, what their ethnic background, what their religion,

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Speaker 14: they should have an education that allows them to make

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Speaker 14: choices in life. That's something that should be upheld everywhere,

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Speaker 14: and if it's not being upheld at a particular place,

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Speaker 14: education should be onto it.

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Speaker 4: If the ministry does shut the school down, which is

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Speaker 4: kind of what it seems it's going to do, does

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Speaker 4: that solve our problem, because won't those kids just go

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Speaker 4: into homeschooling and essentially stay in the place.

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Speaker 23: Well.

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Speaker 14: Of course, different government departments have different responsibilities of an education.

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Speaker 14: Are there to make sure that any school running is

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Speaker 14: run well. On the other hand, there are other areas

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Speaker 14: such as Ministry of Social Development and Ordering a Tamaiki,

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Speaker 14: the Children's Ministry, whose job is to protect the welfare

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Speaker 14: of children. They each have a job to do. Whether

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Speaker 14: a child is in a state school or homeschool is

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Speaker 14: secondary to those other department's jobs.

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Speaker 4: Did you see apropos the Labor policy announcement yesterday that

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Speaker 4: at the moment cervical screening is free for Maori and

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Speaker 4: Pacifica but not other ethnicities.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and look at this is one of these things

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Speaker 14: where a government that's come in. If you take something

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Speaker 14: like bow screening, that was fifty years of age if

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Speaker 14: you are Maori or Pacific sixty if you're a European.

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Speaker 14: We worked on the evidence, we said, actually, race doesn't

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Speaker 14: make a difference to bell cancer. So now it's fifty

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Speaker 14: eight for everybody. And there's lots of things like this

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Speaker 14: that we're slowly changing. FARMAC used to have a whole

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Speaker 14: wing of Maori workers on the basis of really nothing

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Speaker 14: because medication is medication and we just need to get.

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Speaker 17: It to all people.

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Speaker 14: So there's examples throughout the public service where people who

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Speaker 14: like me believe our common humanity is much more important

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Speaker 14: than anything dividing us. We're frustrated, but we're changing it

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Speaker 14: and we're fixing what matters.

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Speaker 4: Each each day are you going to fix this one?

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Speaker 14: Well, not me specifically, that would be up to Simme

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Speaker 14: and Brown, the Health Minister. But certainly the influence I

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Speaker 14: try and bring to bear within the government is that

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Speaker 14: university universal humanity message is important. We've had big successes

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Speaker 14: with the history curriculum, with the obligations on school boards

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Speaker 14: and in the University of Auckland lately.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to put pressure on Simi interchange or

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Speaker 4: are you going to walk away from this one?

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Speaker 26: Well?

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Speaker 14: I can't think of any I've walked away from before.

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Speaker 14: Certainly I believe that we should be using need not Race.

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Speaker 14: I'm responsible for the Need Not Race circular being put

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Speaker 14: into the Cabinet Manual and we're going to be pursuing

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Speaker 14: this one as well.

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Speaker 4: Great, David, thank you for that. Appreciate it. David Cmore

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Speaker 4: Associate Education Ministers to keep an eye on that one

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Speaker 4: of the cervical screening and I'll give you an update

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Speaker 4: on Gloria of Allen. Just to tickets coming up twelve past.

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Speaker 1: Five to do for sel.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of former Black Caps, backed by Indian investors

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Speaker 4: apparently are looking to start a new T twenty cricket competition.

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Speaker 4: It's going to run in January if it gets off

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Speaker 4: the ground and it involves all six major provinces. Dylan

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Speaker 4: Cleaver is a sports ride a high Dylan, Hey, Yane,

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Speaker 4: I'm well thanks, do you reckon? This is good for

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Speaker 4: the sport?

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Speaker 27: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, like all these things, I guess the devil is

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Speaker 7: in the detail. But certainly, as a broad concept, I

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Speaker 7: can't see too much wrong with having foreign investors in

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Speaker 7: your game. And certainly the names of those black apps

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Speaker 7: that were announced as potential investors, like Stephen Fleming and

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Speaker 7: Daniel Vittori, they are exactly the sort of people you

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Speaker 7: want to keep in the game. So broadly, yes, it's

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Speaker 7: certainly an exciting concept for very least.

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Speaker 4: Does it not strike you that I think this will

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Speaker 4: get more people watching cricket than watching our domestic competition

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Speaker 4: which is on at the same time.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well absolutely. You could have asked even hardened cricket

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Speaker 7: fans about domestic cricket and they wouldn't have a clue.

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Speaker 7: Like I saw it frame somewhere as a rebel takeover

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Speaker 7: of the domestic game, you could also frame it as

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Speaker 7: the savior of the domestic day.

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Speaker 4: The trouble is, I mean, were just to say then

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Speaker 4: if hardly anyone watched domestic cricket, it's not really cutting

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Speaker 4: the lunch of New Zealand cricket, is it, Because that

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem like there's a lot of revenue to lose.

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Speaker 7: No, And I think the major associations, which are the

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Speaker 7: six associations that kind of govern and minister domestic cricket,

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Speaker 7: they've realized they've taken the Super Smash, which is the

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty version of the domestic game as far as

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Speaker 7: they can possibly take it. There is no more revenue

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Speaker 7: to be squeezed out of that particular sponge. So if

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Speaker 7: you've got private investors coming in and saying we can

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Speaker 7: run this tournament, we can do it more effectively, more efficiently,

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Speaker 7: and we can get more bums on seats, then you know,

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Speaker 7: on the surface, again without knowing exactly the details behind it,

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Speaker 7: it would appear to be a win win.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that it's going to retain players in

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Speaker 4: the country, because I noticed it clashes with the Big

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Speaker 4: Bash over in Australia, and it may clash to the

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Speaker 4: South African because it's played in January, right, so it's

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Speaker 4: also going to clash in the South African competition, I

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Speaker 4: think so is there a TARTS that we managed to

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Speaker 4: keep out good players or do they head off to.

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Speaker 7: That anyway, I think some of the best players will

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Speaker 7: probably still get those kind of eye watering offers that

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Speaker 7: would make a decision to stay very difficult. But I

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Speaker 7: think it would definitely help keep more players in the

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Speaker 7: game if the salaries were boosted in line the whatever

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Speaker 7: private investment they got A lot of that will depend

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Speaker 7: on broadcast eels, TV deals, what extra sponsorship they can

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Speaker 7: bring in. But for the past ten years, the Super

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Speaker 7: Smash has been it's kind of like a Village Green tournament.

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Speaker 7: Compared to the other T twenty franchise tournaments around the world.

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Speaker 7: We get no high profile or very few high profile

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Speaker 7: overseas players coming in. Yeah, the Big Bash is tempting

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Speaker 7: for our best T twenty players because they get the

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Speaker 7: highest salary over there. South Africa has become more tempting,

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Speaker 7: as we saw last summer with Devin Conway and Kane

876
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Speaker 7: Williamson playing there. There's also in a Miller window, there's

877
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Speaker 7: a TEA twenty franchise tournament running out of the United

878
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Speaker 7: Arab Emirates by former Entitite chief executive David White. So

879
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Speaker 7: there's a lot of pull on our players for private

880
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 7: franchise tournament, so we've got our own one again. Without

881
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 7: knowing the detail, it would seem to be something that

882
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Speaker 7: we should at the very least investigate closely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, Dylan, thanks very much, Dylan Cleaver sports writer.

884
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Speaker 4: Will talk to the sports huddle about it though with

885
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: us after half past five. This is the update really

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Speaker 4: quickly on Gloria L. Ministry of Education has formally notified

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Speaker 4: GLORIAVL Christian School it is considering canceling the school's registration.

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00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: They met with the school this morning. Gloria VL wants

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Speaker 4: additional information to support preparation of its response to this.

890
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: They've been given a one week decision. They can get

891
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: the information through and then the Ministry will make a

892
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: decision quarter past hither this alternative cricket competition will just

893
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: be domestic cricket and drag no players, no viewers. Bring

894
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: on the Aussie Big Bash, best competition on the planet, Tony.

895
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: It's got to be better than what we're doing at

896
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Speaker 4: the moment, though, mustn't It Past five So, as I

897
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: was telling you earlier, Quantus has unveiled the first images

898
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Speaker 4: of the plane that it's going to use to fly

899
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Speaker 4: from Sydney to London. This is the A three fifty

900
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Speaker 4: one thousand ULR. That's the name of the plane, and

901
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Speaker 4: it's going to fly for twenty two hours, which means

902
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Speaker 4: this is going to be the world's longest uninterrupted flight.

903
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Speaker 4: Jeff Thomas is an aviation commentator and founder of Daily

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Speaker 4: Airline News, and he's with us.

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Speaker 9: Hi Jeff, Greetings, Heather, how are you, Jim?

906
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Speaker 4: Well, thank you.

907
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Speaker 5: Do you like what you see?

908
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, it's going to.

909
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Speaker 9: Be a great airplane for Quantus, And of course it

910
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 9: all depends the plane looks great, of course, but it's

911
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Speaker 9: all it's what's on the inside that really matters to passengers.

912
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Speaker 9: And you know, according to Quantis, they're going to have

913
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Speaker 9: more room and economy. They're going to have more room

914
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Speaker 9: and premium economy, more room and business class and they're

915
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Speaker 9: going to have a first class section. So it's all

916
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Speaker 9: about the room and the space, particularly when you're going

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Speaker 9: to be flying for twenty plus hours.

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Speaker 4: Mate, could you imagine doing twenty two hours an economy.

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Speaker 9: Well, there's economy and there's economy. You know, if you're flying,

920
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Speaker 9: you know between Auckland and Wellington, then economy is pretty tight.

921
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Speaker 9: But if you're flying on an airplane that's got four

922
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Speaker 9: and five inches more leg room, then it does make

923
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Speaker 9: a bit of a difference. And they've also got this

924
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Speaker 9: wellness area between premium economy and economy where you can

925
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Speaker 9: stretch your legs and you know, do calisenic that tho.

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Speaker 4: I mean you looked at the pictures because if it's

927
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Speaker 4: anything like the little area they've got at the moment,

928
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Speaker 4: you can barely do anything.

929
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Speaker 9: Well, it is going to be a bit bigger. But

930
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Speaker 9: what I love swapping this completely around is what a

931
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Speaker 9: New Zealand has done and have those sky beds, and

932
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Speaker 9: that's something that Quantus hasn't done. And that's that to me,

933
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Speaker 9: is you know, to purchase a sky bed for four

934
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Speaker 9: hours or six hours, whatever it happens to be. That

935
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Speaker 9: to me is the solution for that sort of a flight.

936
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Speaker 9: And the other thing too is that the premium economy

937
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Speaker 9: in an New Zealand is actually the most roomy out

938
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Speaker 9: there as well, So you know, what you get with

939
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Speaker 9: an New Zealand is comparable, if not better than what

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Speaker 9: Quantus is offering on a longer range flight.

941
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Speaker 4: Now, do you think that this potentially does have the say,

942
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Speaker 4: the potential to cut the lunch of a New Zealand

943
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Speaker 4: because do you imagine this will become the preferred route

944
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Speaker 4: for us to go to London, fly over to Sydney

945
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Speaker 4: then over to London. Just do it real quick.

946
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Speaker 9: Look, I think their New Zealand is looking at doing

947
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Speaker 9: London NonStop or London one stop itself. The new CEO

948
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Speaker 9: has been talking about that. It's something that a New

949
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Speaker 9: Zealand does want to do. Going via Los Angeles as

950
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Speaker 9: I used to do, I don't think is an option

951
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Speaker 9: because Los Angeles is a nightmare from the point of

952
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 9: view of transitting through to London. It may look at

953
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Speaker 9: something like Perth Auckland to Perth to London for instance,

954
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Speaker 9: one stop through Perth and do it that way. They

955
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Speaker 9: are also looking, i know, at going from Auckland over

956
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Speaker 9: the North Pole to London as another option as well.

957
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Speaker 9: So there are options. It all depends on how many

958
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Speaker 9: passengers you want to carry on the aeroplane and what

959
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Speaker 9: fares you then charge. So the Quantus flight, for instance,

960
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Speaker 9: that goes from Perth to London, the configuration of that

961
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Speaker 9: seven eight seven is only two hundred and thirty six passengers,

962
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Speaker 9: whereas in New Zealand has two hundred and sixty five

963
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Speaker 9: in their equivalent aircraft. So you do lose passengers, you

964
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Speaker 9: have to lose passengers for the fuel, so there's a

965
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Speaker 9: bit of a trade off there. So there's some interesting

966
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Speaker 9: back room mathematics to be done by a New Zealand

967
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Speaker 9: as to how they might counter this interesting stuff.

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Speaker 4: Jiff, thanks very much. Jeff Thomas, aviation commentator, founder of

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Speaker 4: Daily Airline News, twenty two hours on you. But that's

970
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: hard work. That'll be hard work.

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Speaker 2: The day's newspakers talk to Heather first, Heather dup Cellen

972
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Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

973
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Speaker 2: mobile news talks.

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Speaker 4: End be Heather has cut the lunch your news saying no,

975
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Speaker 4: it's not it's not. But I take your point, which

976
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Speaker 4: is I have overset it on this program, and I

977
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Speaker 4: was aware of that, so I will not say it

978
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Speaker 4: for the remainder of the program. So you can breathe easy.

979
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Speaker 4: That's the last you will hear of it. Reading that

980
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: text out five twenty five. Now, I think I am

981
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: more interested in seeing how Zoran Mandarmi goes than any

982
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: other Democrat that I can remember in a very very

983
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: very long time, because I genuinely am not sure if

984
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: this is going to go brilliantly for him and he's

985
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Speaker 4: the next big thing, or he's the next big disappointment,

986
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: because there is no way is there, like no way

987
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: at all he's going to be able to do everything

988
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Speaker 4: that he's promised. I mean, he might be able to

989
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: do a rent freeze in New York City. Sure, that's

990
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: an easy thing to do as a stroke of a pen,

991
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: off you go, but might backfire, like it might lead

992
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: to fewer housing units being added, which ultimately makes the

993
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: problem worse. He can pick something out else to do.

994
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: He could do free childcare, hugely expensive. He could add

995
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: a two percent tax on incomes over one million dollars,

996
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: but he may find those incomes start disappearing from his city.

997
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: Either way, he's going to have to pick some of

998
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: his pet projects and go with just a few of them,

999
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 4: because doing absolutely everything is just not going to happen,

1000
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Speaker 4: and that's going to lead to disappointment, surely for the

1001
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Speaker 4: voters who truly believe he can do all these things.

1002
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: Mike cut though, says that the disappointment will not be

1003
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: great because if there's one thing we learned from Donald Trump,

1004
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: It's that breaking promises doesn't actually really matter that much

1005
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 4: if you represent something to voters. Donald Trump represented the

1006
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: anti establishment, so people stuck with him even when he

1007
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: broke his promises. Mamdani represents the anti Trump, so I

1008
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 4: think people will stick with him even if he breaks

1009
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: his promises. I actually suspect, by the way, that this

1010
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 4: is going to be very good for Donald Trump. I

1011
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: think he's going to love having Mandarmi around because he

1012
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: will be able to use everything that Mam Darmi does

1013
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 4: to berate him and the Democrats. Every time a promise

1014
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: is broken. He's going to because because Mamdanei is the

1015
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: sort of him, right, So ma'm daney just becomes the

1016
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 4: bad guy in all of his stories from from here

1017
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: on and he pumps himself up. However this goes for

1018
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: Mam Damie. I think we can all agree this is

1019
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 4: now turning into a must see show.

1020
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: What ever, duplicy Ellen.

1021
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: Heather, they just need to make half the plane a

1022
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: bar with a corner. We can just push the drunk

1023
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: people in for a sleep. I'm not gonna lie to you.

1024
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: If I was on that flight, I'd want to be drunk.

1025
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you like for the duration of it, because it's

1026
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: probably the only thing that's going to help you sleep

1027
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: when you're sitting on your butt in economy.

1028
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 17: Can every plane just be like that? I'd be a

1029
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 17: fan of that.

1030
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: No, it's not the worst. I mean they used to

1031
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: do that. Remember when they had the cigarettes and the booze.

1032
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: It was wonderful back in the day before my time,

1033
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 4: sports huddles would be next.

1034
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

1035
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: it's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

1036
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: like no one else us talk.

1037
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 17: They'd be Mummy's mom.

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00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: Dani described the other day as jasindadu and with a

1039
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Speaker 4: bed Thank you, Stevens. That's an image, isn't it.

1040
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 5: Hey?

1041
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: Have you heard about what's going on in Auckland in

1042
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: terms of the old department store Here we were saying, oh,

1043
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: it's the end of department stores. Faradays is set to

1044
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: open a department store at one three to one Queen

1045
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: Street in Auckland. I know, it's like what happened with

1046
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: Smith and Goey's. These guys are opening mid next year.

1047
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: We're going to talk to the chief executive of Faradays

1048
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: after six. Right now it's twenty four away.

1049
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: From six Friday Sports uled with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

1050
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Find your one of a kind.

1051
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 23: The the balancing acts. I suppose that I have to

1052
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 23: be able to put my truth out there, so I'm

1053
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 23: in my conscious face. I've never been so conscious of

1054
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 23: my life.

1055
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 28: That was a.

1056
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 15: Servious moment for Elie Carte.

1057
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 25: I think all the staff and teammates were holding their breath.

1058
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 4: You think he's.

1059
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but arenas double Anca it is a dangerous tennis

1060
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: player taking her lightly.

1061
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 11: But I am very confident. You know, sixteen players, pretty much,

1062
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 11: sixteen players.

1063
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: That have ever walked this earth have beaten the Big

1064
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: four four and I'm one of them.

1065
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: All Right, sports tittle this evening Nick Berley News Talks.

1066
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 4: He'd be christ Church sports reader and Levina good sports journalist.

1067
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 4: How are you too?

1068
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 15: Cureda?

1069
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: Do I hear that, Levina? Is there any world in

1070
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: which Ali Catoa should have been allowed on the field

1071
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 4: after that head knock? Ah?

1072
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 15: It was horrendous, Like between you and I had a

1073
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 15: I think someone really needed to step in nice and early.

1074
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 15: If you've had a clear head knock in the warm up.

1075
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 6: That should be.

1076
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 15: Game over, no debate whatsoever. We've got to get past

1077
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 15: this whole She'll be right, mate. Culture, I mean, player

1078
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 15: safety is there's nothing more than player safety. That's like

1079
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 15: when it comes to optional it's just about player safety.

1080
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 15: And when a player ends up in surgery after being

1081
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 15: cleared to play, that tells you that the protocols or

1082
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 15: the like, the courage to enforce them, they just weren't

1083
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 15: good enough. Like it was horrendous. It shouldn't have happened.

1084
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 15: He literally had fluid drained from his brain and it

1085
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 15: wasn't right. And if it was a relative of mine

1086
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 15: or a friend of mine, I would have said you're

1087
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 15: not playing, buddy, And that got lost.

1088
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1089
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: I don't understand how this happened because the very people

1090
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 4: who should have kept him off the field, which are

1091
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 4: the medical team, actually assessed him after this. Yeah.

1092
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 20: I think that's where the confusion rains, isn't it either?

1093
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 20: Because the Tongland coach, Christian Wilf, immediately after that game

1094
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 20: said all protocols were followed and he was very comfortable

1095
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 20: with two what he's described as very experienced sports doctors

1096
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 20: clearing Ali Catala to play, and then later earlier this

1097
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 20: week or a few days later, we're then told no,

1098
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 20: if we hadn't seen the vision from the warm up incident,

1099
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 20: we wouldn't have let him back on the field. It

1100
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 20: seems like a real blame game at the moment, but

1101
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 20: as Levin said, I think fundamentally it comes down to

1102
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 20: a duty of care around the team, management, around teammates.

1103
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 5: Look.

1104
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 20: I've even heard it suggested that phaps the host broadcaster,

1105
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 20: given they aired the pictures in the pregame, someone someone

1106
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 20: should have someone should have done more from a host

1107
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 20: broadcaster standpoint to go, look, if we're if we're putting

1108
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 20: these pictures to air, perhaps someone should go, hey, guys,

1109
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 20: just in case you haven't seen this, this is pretty

1110
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 20: damning and this guy shouldn't play it.

1111
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 25: Well.

1112
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: Surely, surely these images.

1113
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 20: From the broadcast truck can easily be brought up on

1114
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 20: a phone and iPad down to it.

1115
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: But a medical doctor, a team trainer in the uniform.

1116
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: The medical doctor in the tongue in uniform is looking

1117
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: at this guy and going, naw, you're all good. They

1118
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: had all the people.

1119
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 20: Well, that's the bit I'm not one hundred percent clear

1120
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 20: on because of the way I've seen some reporting where

1121
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 20: they've backtracked on on that during the week, and I

1122
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 20: think that's where it gets.

1123
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: It's got even more confusing.

1124
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 20: And this is just a total rarity where you know

1125
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 20: we're used to obviously the HIA process during the game,

1126
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 20: but it's clear as day that there needs to be

1127
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 20: something a lot more stringent and enforced and the warm

1128
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 20: up because he should.

1129
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: Really later not my doctor just saying it couldn't about

1130
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: me too, right, do you reckon Leavina? Heads can roll?

1131
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 22: Like?

1132
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: Should heads roll over?

1133
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 11: This?

1134
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: Is it at that level? Or is this just something

1135
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: that we I don't know, have to take take it

1136
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: take a learning from.

1137
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 15: Well, I mean there's plenty of things we can take

1138
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 15: a learning from when it comes to advocacy, and you

1139
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 15: know when we're at a board level and we need

1140
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 15: to get protocols right. But to be honest, anyone, and Nick,

1141
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 15: I know you saw the footage and the rest of

1142
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 15: the country I was with sporting fans that don't watch

1143
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 15: sport at all and watched it and thought it was

1144
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 15: during the match and went, WHOA, wow, he's gone, he

1145
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 15: won't be playing. I'm like it was the warm up,

1146
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 15: but no, he won't be playing. Then he turns up

1147
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 15: to play. It was ridiculous and honestly in terms of

1148
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 15: in terms of player care and also like grass grass

1149
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 15: grassroots rugby league as well, it's not the sort of

1150
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 15: thing that we want to advocate to our kids that

1151
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 15: it's okay to play. You'll be right, be tolf, be tolf,

1152
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 15: get out there and do it. I mean it was

1153
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 15: a serious injury. He should never have played. And I

1154
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 15: do think the doctors should be interviewed. I think they

1155
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 15: should be held accountable because anyone that gave the tick

1156
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 15: to that box for him to play made a wrong

1157
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 15: to form too.

1158
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 4: Write now, Nick, what do you think about this T

1159
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: twenty idea?

1160
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 6: Do you like it? Look?

1161
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 20: This has been bubbling away for a week while, hasn't

1162
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 20: it with the Super Smash whether it's fit for purpose

1163
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 20: of course, coming to a change in the broadcast arrangement

1164
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 20: with New Zealand Cricket moving back to Sky after the

1165
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 20: summer from TVNZ, and it just felt like something had

1166
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 20: to be done with our T twenty competition when you

1167
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 20: compare it to I know we're a small country by

1168
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 20: it by comparison, but it's nothing you know, I can't

1169
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 20: hold a candle to the IPL or the Big Bash

1170
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 20: or one hundred or anything like that. So to hear

1171
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 20: that there is a bit of private money and equity

1172
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 20: interested in changing the landscape of T twenty cricket is

1173
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 20: not a total shock.

1174
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: It is a little bit surprising.

1175
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 20: I suppose that it sounds like it's got universal support

1176
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 20: from the six major associations, the domestic regions across the country.

1177
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 5: So look, while there might be some resistance a little

1178
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 5: bit higher up, perhaps.

1179
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 20: At the governing body of New Zealand cricket level, if

1180
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 20: they're saying, hey, our own domestic product isn't good enough,

1181
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 20: we want to change, I think that that strikes to

1182
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 20: me anyway that that change is coming. And to be fair,

1183
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 20: when you look at the Super Smash, yes, it's a

1184
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 20: nice product in terms of, you know, it just feels

1185
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 20: like a nice day at a summer location, sort of

1186
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 20: barbecue vibes. But you know, operationally, I've heard, you know,

1187
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 20: it runs at a pretty big loss. So something has

1188
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 20: to be done, whether it's something in between. I know

1189
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 20: there's been reports to join the Big Bash. I think

1190
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 20: change is coming, but this sounds quite interesting. I'm intrigued

1191
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 20: to see where it lands.

1192
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Levina, I don't know. The Super Smash is it?

1193
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: I never watch it? Do you watch it?

1194
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1195
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 15: I do, I do watch it. And I also I

1196
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 15: think the Super Smash Australia with the women's competition for

1197
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 15: years that outrated everything that happened here in New Zealand

1198
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 15: when it came to football or other minor sports that

1199
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 15: in terms of key we politics. This is good old stuff,

1200
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 15: isn't that? Netbal New Zealand would be loving this attention

1201
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 15: right now. And the provinces are saying they want more money,

1202
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 15: more attention, and they're decided maybe in a way I guess,

1203
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 15: to make their own fun and you can see they're

1204
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 15: absolutely considering it, maybe backing it. They might feel ignored

1205
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 15: by the current setup. I don't know if this rebel

1206
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 15: league promises more control, but it might promise more cash

1207
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 15: closer to home. The thing is, the thing is there's

1208
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 15: an early buzz, but unless it locks in TV money

1209
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 15: and top players, it risks kind of just going way

1210
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 15: over the backside or the breakaway league and there'll be

1211
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 15: no coverage and there'll be no fans and it won't happen.

1212
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 15: So they need the coverage, They want the money, and

1213
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 15: everyone's talking about it at the moment. It's the buzz trap.

1214
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 4: Yep, totally all right, let's take a break that you

1215
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: guys come back shortly seventeen away from six.

1216
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,839
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1217
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1218
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 4: The back of the sports huddle, Levina Good, Nick Beuley,

1219
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 4: and go on, Levina before we get to Dame Nolls

1220
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: to clear your interest.

1221
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 15: Yes, Dame Dame Nollen is a neighbor of mine at

1222
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 15: a lovely beach side resort. I won't tell you where

1223
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 15: it is because I catch heats the fish there and

1224
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 15: I don't want everyone to go there to marry. But

1225
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 15: she's a great nigh But I'll tell you what. I'm

1226
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 15: really glad she's never made me do a beat test,

1227
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 15: right because I'm like, I'm sure I would fail it.

1228
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 15: But then I think to myself, I'm not an elite player.

1229
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 15: I'm not representing one of our finest recognized sports, and

1230
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 15: if I did the elite beat test, I would fail it.

1231
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 15: But I'm not representing that sport like others. So she's

1232
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 15: a really really good bird, great neighbor, and I guess

1233
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 15: some of my comments I would try and think are professional,

1234
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 15: but I can't help but think they're personal as well.

1235
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 15: But I worked with Dame Nollin for many, many years

1236
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 15: when I was working on the net ball. I remember

1237
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 15: back in twenty nineteen she went to Australia. She dropped

1238
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 15: two of the highest percented shooters and the domestic competition

1239
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 15: because they didn't pass the beat test. A couple of

1240
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 15: months later, she went on to win the World Cup

1241
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 15: in twenty nineteen, and everyone forgot about the fact that

1242
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 15: she drops some players because they didn't make the beat test.

1243
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 15: It's an elite sport. She's an elite coach, and I

1244
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 15: just think I personally think Dan Nolan puts the silver

1245
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 15: ferns first, maybe not the players, and certainly not a self.

1246
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question. You read me, you

1247
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: heard me reading our past that report. Is she a bully?

1248
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 5: Yep?

1249
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 15: The thing is I was really happy to listen to

1250
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 15: that report and I was really pleased that it was revealed. Now,

1251
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 15: I wish it would have been revealed a long time ago,

1252
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 15: because finally there's something tangible that we can soak up on.

1253
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 15: The Brian Stonnach report. I just personally think that she

1254
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 15: is She's been at the Helm for seven years, she's

1255
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 15: come to great heights, We've made her a dame, She's

1256
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 15: won the World Cup for New Zealand and she puts

1257
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 15: the sport first. I think it's a mess. I don't

1258
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 15: know if it's a mess of netball New Zealand's. I

1259
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 15: think a world class coach and a leadership team can't

1260
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 15: seem to get on the same page. I just wish

1261
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 15: it would have been far more transparent before today. I

1262
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 15: was so glad to hear that report, but it's long over.

1263
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: Juy totally. What do you reckon? Nick Bullysses?

1264
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 20: I mean, it's so subjective, isn't he herether I'm not

1265
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 20: going to answer one one way or the other, because

1266
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 20: come on neck, look lightest thing in a high performance environment.

1267
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 5: We all know it's tough.

1268
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 20: It's not easy, right, It's not like a normal workplace,

1269
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 20: and each of the twelve to fifteen players is going

1270
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 20: to have a slightly skewed interpretation on what constructive criticism

1271
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 20: is or feedback. That the bit that was probably the

1272
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 20: most damning for me here, that is the inconsistency and

1273
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 20: again again, I guess inconsistency. Calling something inconsistent is probably

1274
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 20: subjective in itself. But you know, for any workplace, all

1275
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 20: you want is to be treated equally as your peers.

1276
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 20: So if these claims and look, there are some issues,

1277
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 20: by the sounds with this Brian's Stronach report in terms

1278
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 20: of how many players that did interview, every single player,

1279
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 20: it sounds like that's still up for the debate. But

1280
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 20: if there is inconsistency around you know, the favoritism, for example,

1281
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 20: around fitness reporting, I don't think that's acceptable and it's

1282
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 20: pretty dysfunctional and dysfunctional in any high performance sporting.

1283
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 15: I'm sorry, next, sorry if interrupting. Also, I think that

1284
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 15: the players have said, like it's been said, the players

1285
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 15: are anonymous. I don't think they need to be anonymous anymore.

1286
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 15: I mean, Dame Nolene obviously knows who they are, don't

1287
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 15: know who they are exactly, and it's time to advocate

1288
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 15: their issues. So this thing is in the absence of information,

1289
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 15: people speculate, and that's what the whole country has been

1290
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 15: doing over the last fifty one days since she's been

1291
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 15: stood down. So players come out, say who you are,

1292
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 15: say what your issues are let her answer to those

1293
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 15: issues and then maybe.

1294
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 3: We can all move on.

1295
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 15: I know lots of I've spoken to a few sports

1296
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 15: boards throughout the country over the last couple of weeks

1297
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 15: and they've all gathered, they've all had meetings, and they've

1298
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 15: learnt a lot from this process. So it's been a

1299
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 15: learning curve. Hopefully Netal New Zealand has learned as well.

1300
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 20: Yeah, I just want to quickly, just quickly jump and

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Speaker 20: I just think it's beyond repair, to be totally honest,

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Speaker 20: I think that's probing the stubbornness on both sides. I

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01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 20: think ever since I saw that Dave Nolean wasn't going

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Speaker 20: to go to the UK on this tour which starts

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Speaker 20: on Monday, like, I've seen some sort of conspiracy theorists

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Speaker 20: and they're basically setting her up to fail on m

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Speaker 20: I subscribe to that. The fact that she might have

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Speaker 20: them for well a week before the Commonwealth Games, they

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Speaker 20: might finish third or fourth and then you've got a

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Speaker 20: good reason not to renew a contract. That's that's where

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Speaker 20: it feels like it's going to me.

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Speaker 4: That's actually a fair point to have raised there now, Levena,

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Speaker 4: I'm not excited about the All Blacks. Are you excited

1314
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Speaker 4: about the All Blacks?

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Speaker 15: I'm very excited about the All Blacks because I won

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Speaker 15: money on the Melbourne Cup, Heather and as I did

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Speaker 15: you remember last year to eleven because my daughter was

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Speaker 15: born on Melbourne Cup day to and eleven and last

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Speaker 15: year I won loads of money and I'm like, I'm going.

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Speaker 9: Stop.

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Speaker 5: That's how she can avoid for this batch next to

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Speaker 5: day and it just keeps winning on.

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Speaker 15: Okay, I read that batch next.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I have a theory on you, Levina. I have

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Speaker 4: a theory which is that you are actually secretly loaded,

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Speaker 4: which means that you just bet on everything because you've

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Speaker 4: got the cash dere you always win because of that.

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Speaker 15: Nah, mate, I've just hey mate, I've got lots of contacts,

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Speaker 15: all right, Yeah, lots of contacts and this one, this

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Speaker 15: one's out there and like.

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Speaker 23: The hate mail, bring it in.

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Speaker 15: I'm ready for the hate mail. I'm going to put

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Speaker 15: my money from the Melbourne Cup on Scotland to beat

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Speaker 15: the All Blacks. And for three reasons. One is not

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Speaker 15: because the Scottish beat the Americans eighty five mil or whatever.

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Speaker 15: I heard Jason Pine mentioned that and also Jason you

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Speaker 15: also mentioned the All Blacks played really well the last

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Speaker 15: twenty minutes against Ireland. Okay, what about the first sixty minutes, Jason,

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Speaker 15: you forgot about that. And I think Scotland has been

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Speaker 15: improving every single time and finally the ads are playing,

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Speaker 15: believe it or not, in their white stripes. This is

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Speaker 15: Scotland all the way Murrayfield, one hundred years. I know

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Speaker 15: there's been thirty two matches, thirty to the All Blacks.

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Speaker 4: Two drawers.

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Speaker 15: If you want to win a little something sneaky, sneaky,

1346
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Speaker 15: have a bet with your neighbor.

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Speaker 4: And take it home R eighteen bit responsibly, go nick

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Speaker 4: ah m dysfunctional, No, no, no, Look, I think.

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Speaker 5: The All Blacks are going to win. But but I

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 5: would say one thing.

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Speaker 20: I think we are probably understating how important both Jordi

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Speaker 20: and Scott Barrett out of this team. I've played a

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Speaker 20: lot of rugby in that All Black starting side captain

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Speaker 20: and vice captain as well, and I think there is

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Speaker 20: a little bit of a drop below the next Cabs

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Speaker 20: off the ranks.

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Speaker 5: So if there's any ever an opportunity for Scotland, we.

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Speaker 20: Hear abouts you know how many players from their British

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Speaker 20: and Irish line squad from Scotland.

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Speaker 5: Maybe this is it. I won't get it. I won't

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Speaker 5: be getting up for it.

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Speaker 20: But if I wake up Sunday morning and something's totally

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Speaker 20: different and the world is falling in and the All

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Speaker 20: Blacks are lost, then it won't be a total Well.

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Speaker 4: I just had up Levina for some of the freebies

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Speaker 4: that she's going to have absolutely as a result. Guys,

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Speaker 4: it's wonderful to talk to the pair of you. Nick

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Speaker 4: Beuley slavena good as sports huddle. Seven away from six

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Speaker 4: it's the Heather.

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Speaker 2: Duple to see Allen Drave Full Show podcast on my

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Speaker 2: Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Heather, I hope that if Scotland does beat the All

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Speaker 4: Blacks for the first time, you and the New Zealand

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Speaker 4: sporting media will be as hard on Razer as you

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Speaker 4: were on Fozzy Lord Hither. It's lesson not learning, Steve.

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Speaker 4: I know That's why I used my sarcastic voice for

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Speaker 4: that when I said it, Hey, do you remember this?

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Speaker 4: BBC news reader.

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Speaker 29: Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in the research, says that

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Speaker 29: the aged, pregnant people, women and those with pre existing

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Speaker 29: health conditions need to take precautions.

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Speaker 4: She's got in trouble. MENBC has come down on her

1383
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Speaker 4: like a ton of bricks. That happened back in June.

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Speaker 4: If you didn't pick up like okay, you always have

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Speaker 4: picked up what she did wrong there?

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Speaker 21: Right?

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Speaker 4: She said pregnant people and then corrected herself and said women.

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Speaker 4: What they have cracked down on her for that. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: you cannot make this up. You cannot make this up

1390
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Speaker 4: her expression. That's what they've had a crack at her for.

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Speaker 4: Because at the point that she changes what's in the

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Speaker 4: autoque from pregnant people to women, she makes the tiniest

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Speaker 4: change in her expression on her face and she sort

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Speaker 4: of slightly opens her eyes, like but it's so minor, right,

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Speaker 4: she just opens her eyes because like, the woman has

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Speaker 4: had so much work done. She could and open her

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Speaker 4: eyes more than that if she wanted to. So she

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Speaker 4: does this tiny little opening of the eyes that has

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Speaker 4: been found to have broken BBC impartiality rules. The Broadcasters

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Speaker 4: Executive Complaints Unit considered her facial expression expressed a controversial

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Speaker 4: view about trans people. I mean, the BBC are idiots, right,

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Speaker 4: did you need proof that the BBC idiots? You just

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01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: got proof that the BBC are idiots in the very

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Speaker 4: bloody week that they've like made Donald Trump. We've found

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Speaker 4: out that made Donald Trump say something that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: didn't say, and they've been running hummas lines on Gaza

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Speaker 4: and they've been doing all this stuff and putting anti

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Speaker 4: semites on television. Turns out they want to go and

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Speaker 4: have a crack at the lady for opening her eyes. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: what absolute idiots.

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Speaker 17: Were on the radio hit and no one even knows

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Speaker 17: what our facial.

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Speaker 4: Express Look at my facial expression right now answer. I mean, like, seriously,

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Speaker 4: imagine if you got in trouble that bet just did

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Speaker 4: a facial expression.

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Speaker 17: I'm just trying to keep all New.

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Speaker 4: Zealand stood Dame Nole's down for a facial ex expression

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Speaker 4: that's essentially what's just happened to.

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Speaker 17: The old way would have been more specific than what

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Speaker 17: we got from the report.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that is true. Actually, at least we know. Hey,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about department stores. There's one, as I said

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Speaker 4: to you earlier, there's one opening in Queen Street. I

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01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 4: know there's one opening in Queen Street next year. How

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Speaker 4: mental is that last from the past. We'll chat about

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Speaker 4: that next news coup.

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Speaker 2: For you person over again, Quad's up, What's down?

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Speaker 26: What with a major cause?

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Speaker 1: And how will it affect the economy?

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Speaker 2: The big business questions on the Business Hour with hither Duplessy,

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01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: alp and Mass for insurance investments and Kiuie Safer You're

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Speaker 2: in good hands.

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Speaker 1: News talks that'd.

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Speaker 4: Be even coming up in the next hour. Thomas Coblin

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01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 4: will write the political Week that was for us, Peter

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: Lewis is with us out of home on China's four

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 4: Red Lines warning to the US, and then Gavin Gray

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Speaker 4: will talk us through what's going on in the UK,

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 4: including of course the stuff with Prince Andrew. Right now

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Speaker 4: at a seven past six. Now try not to fall

1441
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,959
Speaker 4: out of your seat when you hear what I'm about

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: to tell you. I've got some good news about Queen

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Speaker 4: Street and Auckland. A new three level luxury department store

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Speaker 4: is set to open at one three to one Queen Street.

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Speaker 4: This is opposite Vulcan Lane. It's going to open mid

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Speaker 4: next year as part of a thirty million dollar development.

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Speaker 4: Faradays is behind the new store, and the Faraday's chief

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Speaker 4: executive is Eddie von Dadels and Hi, Eddie.

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Speaker 27: Hi, I hear that. I thank you for having me.

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for joining us, mate. I love this, But

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Speaker 4: isn't the age of the department store over?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 30: Look, I think I think when you think about Queen

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 30: Street and you think about two two noticeable department stores

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 30: that are now are missing from the market. When we

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 30: think about that and we think about a large duty

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 30: free off of it no longer or exists, and we

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 30: think about a tragic end of another New Zealand institution,

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01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 30: there is a there is an addressable market that exists

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 30: in the CBD, and I think with the right tactics,

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01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 30: a focus on experience and a focus on customer.

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Speaker 27: Service, that that we can excel.

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Speaker 4: So it's what it sounds like to me. What you're

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: saying is basically, I walk in that store, it has

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Speaker 4: to feel special and you're going to make it feel special.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, that's I mean the building itself. We're inheriting something truly,

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 30: truly unique, which is the original Mill and Choice building

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Speaker 30: purpose built for department stores. It's it's just this amazing,

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Speaker 30: it's this amazing historical embrace to do something contemporary and

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Speaker 30: fresh and modern.

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Speaker 9: Insight.

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Speaker 4: Who's your your market? Here are you are you aiming at?

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Speaker 4: You know, reasonably well money people in Auckland or is

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: it the cruise ship crew.

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Speaker 30: Look, I think an economy the size of Auckland, you

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 30: need you Actually, your addressable market needs to be all

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Speaker 30: of the above. It needs to be regional tourists, it

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 30: needs to be locals, it needs to be international tourists.

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Speaker 30: And you need to be speaking to Chinese demographic, Indian

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Speaker 30: demographic and obviously obviously the Caucasian demographics and all other

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Speaker 30: demographics too. So it's we've got to make everyone feel welcome.

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Speaker 30: We've got to make the we've got to make the

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Speaker 30: price points achievable for people who can afford to come

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 30: and have an amazing experience and buy a packet of

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 30: pencils right through to someone that wants to have a

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Speaker 30: kind of what they might have associated with faradays in

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Speaker 30: the past, and you know, spend a significant We're really

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Speaker 30: edicated to the to the whole market in that sense.

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: Do you have confidence that Queen Street's going to be okay?

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 4: Because at the moment it just looks terrible.

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 30: Hey, if we all if we all pack up and leave,

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 30: it's prey devastating as an outcome for the CBD, isn't it.

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 26: So?

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 27: I think I think now it's the time for bravery.

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 27: I think.

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Speaker 30: I think we're at the bottom of the market and

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Speaker 30: I think that you can start to feel a little

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 30: bit of a change in confidence as well. So I

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 30: believe in Queen Street. I believe in the historic buildings

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Speaker 30: and their residents, with the you know, with the community,

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Speaker 30: and I believe that anyone who's visiting Orkland's probably going

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01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 30: to come to the CBD first and I think that's

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01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 30: going to set the time for potentially a lot of

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 30: the rest of their experience.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen, I'm loving that you're saying this stuff.

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Speaker 4: And what about I mean, you'll have known, You'll know

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,919
Speaker 4: this has been reasonably well canvas this week, the discussion

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01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 4: about what we do with rough sleepers and anti social behavior.

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Speaker 4: What's your view on that.

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Speaker 30: My view is that I'm not a social worker. And

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Speaker 30: whilst I think that that's distressing that that situation that

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Speaker 30: some people find themselves in, I think that all the

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 30: business owners on Queen Street need to work together with

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Speaker 30: counsel and with the mayor to achieve a good result

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Speaker 30: for people that are on Queen Street in general.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant, Okay, what happens to to I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what you meant by that.

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Speaker 27: Well, what it meant was it's sort of I guess

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,520
Speaker 27: it's it's not my expertise.

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: So but you don't want them to like you don't

1521
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 4: You don't want to open a flash new store and

1522
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 4: have people like peeing on the footpath outside, do you not?

1523
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Speaker 27: Really? No, No, that's not not what we would be

1524
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 27: shooting for on opening night.

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Speaker 4: Or at all. Hey, okay, Faradays and partnal what happens.

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Speaker 30: So it's I guess Faradays is the panel is a

1527
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 30: kind of our legacy in a sense. So it's it's

1528
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 30: just such a beautiful building, the fit out. I don't

1529
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 30: know if you've ever been, but it's it's I think

1530
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 30: it's quite beautiful. It's award winning chess. I did an

1531
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 30: amazing job. And and my understanding is that there's a

1532
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 30: talented new new team who is taking over the space

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 30: and who.

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Speaker 27: Will nurture it and turn it into something special.

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Speaker 4: Allot forward to saying, yeah, so do I listen, look,

1536
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 4: best of luck with everything, and really hope it goes

1537
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 4: well for you. That's edyvon Duddell's and Faraday's co founder

1538
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: and chief executive. Yeah, Spark. Now, if you've been watching

1539
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: Spark in the last few years, and especially if you're

1540
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: a shareholder in Spark, you probably underwhelmed by what's going on.

1541
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 4: Well fair to say, the shareholders that turned up at

1542
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 4: the annual meeting today got their chance to give them

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 4: a bit of a grilling, and apparently they did give

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 4: them a bit of a grilling according to reports. Now,

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 4: this is, obviously, I think predominantly what people have been

1546
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: looking for as some kind of a refresh at the

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: top there. So it looks like the chair is falling

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 4: on her sword. She's going to step down as a

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01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: chairperson and a board member within the next twelve months.

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 4: They've laid out their new strategy. They're going to focus

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01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 4: on connectivity rather than an ambition to deliver broader digital services.

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Speaker 4: So he is hoping it goes well for them, and

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: he is hoping a refresh just of the board chair

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Speaker 4: is enough for them. Thirteen past six it's the Heather Duper.

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Speaker 2: C Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Heart Radio

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Speaker 4: To get you across treasuries. I told the government to

1558
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Speaker 4: shortly at sixteen past six and with me right now

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Speaker 4: is Thomas Cogland, political editor at The Herald, to wrap

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Speaker 4: the political week.

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Speaker 5: That was for us.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Thomas, Heather, Good afternoon, Thomas, listen, thanks for stepping

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Speaker 4: in and doing this today. I want to talk to

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Speaker 4: you about this homeless band thing. The government stuff this up.

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Speaker 4: Haven't they the comms on this?

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Speaker 17: Yes they have.

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Speaker 28: I think I think the Prime Minister struggles to kill

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 28: a story, so if you ask him something and it's

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Speaker 28: not true, he struggles to conclusively say that it's not true.

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Speaker 28: So there isn't a ban on homelessness being considered. It

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Speaker 28: sounds like the Sunny Kashell Sunny Kashall retail Prime Ministerial

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Speaker 28: Advisory Group has recommended that move on orders which would

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Speaker 28: which would basically say, you know, if for certain anti

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 28: social behavior police have the ability to ban people and

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Speaker 28: move them on from a sudent area for a certain

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Speaker 28: period of time. It sounds like that was the recommendation

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 28: that has gone to Minister and it could be considered

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Speaker 28: as part of a wider sort of social policy to

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Speaker 28: deal with in the city disruption. I guess it is

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Speaker 28: not a ban on homelessness. And the Prime Minister sort

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Speaker 28: of to compure and perhaps to just into return if

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 28: you ask just into Redurner question and you're way out

1584
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 28: of you know, if your tap is way out of

1585
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 28: out of left field, if it's way way wrong. She

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 28: had quite a good way of making.

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Speaker 4: Sure that you should pull that face he knew, remember.

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01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 28: Yeah, she would pull the face. Yeah, I definitely what

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 28: it was, and the face would say like, I'm sorry, Thomas,

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Speaker 28: You're you're way wrong.

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Speaker 4: But Thomas, Yeah, it's not just the Prime minister, it's

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: all the senior ministers as well who are involved, because

1593
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: there's heaps them involved here, right, and junior ministers as well.

1594
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 4: But they let this thing go on for about twenty

1595
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 4: four to thirty six hours before they finally actually managed

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: to sort of figure out how to say it's move

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 4: on orders, not a homelessness ban.

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Speaker 28: Well, precisely. And it's, as you say, it's pretty simple story.

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Speaker 28: You know, you set up an advisory group, gives you

1600
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 28: an idea, the idea enters the Beehive policy system, and

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01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 28: then you think about it, then you consult your coalition

1602
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 28: partners about it. So yeah, I agree, it's a very

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 28: it's it's it's a story that didn't really need to

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 28: be a story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. Now, where is this business with the Maori

1606
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 4: Party going to go? What's the end result that we're

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 4: going to get?

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Speaker 28: I think the end result is a split. I think

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Speaker 28: when you look at the Party Maori constitution, not to

1610
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 28: bore people on a Friday, but the Party Maori constitution

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Speaker 28: basically gives a lot of power to John Tamaherty and

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 28: as allies. It gives a lot of power to representatives

1613
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Speaker 28: from the electorates. The electorates are controlled by people who

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 28: are friendly to the Tamahadi position. It gives a lot

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 28: of power to the leadership, and we know that the

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 28: leadership is pretty pro TAMMAHEADI Rawity White, he is married

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 28: to John Tamaherty's daughter kidd He. So basically, I think

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Speaker 28: I think it would be a mistake to look at

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Speaker 28: this as two equal sites. They have equal power, They're

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 28: getting equal weight in the in the media stry because

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 28: you know, both sides have something interesting to say, but

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 28: the power, the power rests with John Tummy heavy. I

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 28: think eventually it will probably lead to expulsion. The big

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 28: question and the question which I don't you know, don't

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 28: really have an answer for you now is whether that

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Speaker 28: expulsion would lead to a waker jumping the waker jumping

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01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 28: legislation being triggered. Could it be triggered, and if it

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 28: is triggered, are we ready for by elections? Two by

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Speaker 28: elections and two I think they are the two largest

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 28: electrics in the country. Tiger difarists because electorates the entire

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Speaker 28: South Island plus Wellington.

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Speaker 4: Mate, that's not going to go down well with people,

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Speaker 4: is it.

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Speaker 28: Well, it's certainly not going to go down well with me,

1635
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 28: all the hard going they have to do. I love

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01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 28: the Southland, That's where I'm from. I love the South Island.

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01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 28: But I'm not I'm not not quite ready to go

1638
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 28: slipping around the South Island covering a bi election enough,

1639
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 28: But yes, I don't.

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure.

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 28: We'll be very expensive a by election and those two

1642
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 28: by elections and those two electorates are going to be

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01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 28: very expensive.

1644
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 4: Now do you think eric A Stanford is surviving the

1645
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: attacks from from the unions and their mates?

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Speaker 28: This is a very hard one to know. I think

1647
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 28: they probably. I think she probably is. I think I

1648
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 28: have There's no polling on this, so this is just

1649
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 28: a gussing instinct. But I've heard from a few electorate

1650
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 28: MP's who are expressing a desire from people, from parents

1651
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 28: who come to those electorate MPs. They are expressing a

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01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 28: desire to focus on sort of education, very very a

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01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 28: very strict focus on education and for a wee bit

1654
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 28: of a d emphasis of some of the cultural competencies

1655
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 28: that have sort of crept into the into the education

1656
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 28: world and the last of teen years. So I think

1657
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 28: she's probably on the on the right SIDEA but but

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 28: like I said, there's no polling on the seat, there's

1659
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 28: no way of knowing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is true. Hey, thank you very much. I

1661
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 4: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 17: Thomas.

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01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 4: That's Thomas Coglan, the New Zealand Herald political editor. Okay,

1664
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 4: let's talk about it. I just saw the sad on Telly,

1665
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 4: so I need to talk about this right now. You know,

1666
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: the the KFC ad, this KFC ad with the hacker

1667
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: has got like an enormous number of complaints that have

1668
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 4: gone through to the Advertising Standards Authority. Now, I don't

1669
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: really love people complaining to the Advertising standards authority because

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,959
Speaker 4: you know, don't you have a life, But fifty complaints

1671
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: is quite a lot for it do you know what?

1672
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: Can we just talk about how much this ad sucks?

1673
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 4: It sucks a whoever made this ad for KFC should

1674
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: give the money back to KFC because it's a it's

1675
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 4: a shite ad. But the problem with ad is not

1676
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: that it's like destroyed the kernel and turned them into

1677
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 4: the little mongrel mob type affair, you know, sitting over

1678
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 4: there wanting to do hackey stuff. It's that the ad

1679
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 4: doesn't make you want to eat KFC because the ad

1680
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 4: makes it you know, like ads, you know, it just

1681
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: doesn't make it feel good. You see it, you go,

1682
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 4: I'm just I feel yuck. It's like nah, you know,

1683
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 4: like that's the rule you kind of had this kind

1684
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 4: of it's like a little bit freaked out by it's

1685
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: a bit ominous. It's a bit eerie, isn't it. That's

1686
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 4: what it is. It's slightly eerie and weird, and so

1687
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 4: you feel like like a revulsion. Well why did it?

1688
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: Why why did you add? People think that that's the

1689
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 4: feeling you want to give me before you tell me

1690
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 4: about chicken. I don't think that's a good idea. I mean,

1691
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 4: what's those ads and what's those ads in the UK

1692
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 4: that they do every single Christmas time, John something or other?

1693
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 4: You know the shop? Do you know what I'm talking about?

1694
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 9: Beat?

1695
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 4: You know that you make me watch them every year?

1696
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: The Christmas ads in the UK. They're like a big deal.

1697
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 4: John John Lewis, John Lewis, No, why you look at

1698
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 4: she's got She's pregnant, so her brain stopped working already.

1699
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about. They do those ads,

1700
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 4: they give you them beautiful music and nice warm fuzzies. Yay,

1701
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 4: that's the feeling you should be getting when you watch

1702
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: an ad. What a terrible ad. I can't believe who

1703
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: did it? Whoever did it should be fired.

1704
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 17: It was John Lewis.

1705
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Speaker 4: Did I just make that name up? I mean, she's pregnant,

1706
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: so her brain's not working. But I've just recently weaned

1707
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: the little one off breastfeeding, so my brain is not working.

1708
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 4: It has been replaced with just a pit of rage.

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Speaker 4: Six You know what I'm talking about, Ladies six twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's heaven for thee Allen with the business hour and

1712
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: mass for insurance investments.

1713
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 1: Can quie Saber, You're in good hands. News talks head be.

1714
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, bang on it was John Lewis, and actually, weirdly,

1715
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 4: the John Lewis add for this year dropped a couple

1716
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: of days ago. It's got an upbeat nineties club classic

1717
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 4: as the song, and it is apparently quite good. Here's

1718
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 4: what the Uffington Post UKs is. John Lewis's new Christmas

1719
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 4: ad captures a real main, real male loneliness and it's

1720
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 4: a tear jerker. Six twenty six.

1721
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1722
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like everyone's interested in creepy men who

1723
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 4: are interested in children because the next buyer pic is

1724
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 4: just around the corner. First teaser for Michael has just dropped,

1725
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 4: and you know which Michael we're talking about?

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 26: Cute?

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Speaker 4: Can you lie the last from you?

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 20: Please?

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01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: Okay, but remember in here keep those peaks still, my man.

1730
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 4: So the story of Michaelson is coming to the big

1731
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 4: screen seventeen years after his death. He's been played by

1732
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 4: his own nephew, Jamar Jackson, and even though the trailer

1733
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 4: is only a minute long, we get to see all

1734
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 4: the best bits. You're going to see Michael in his

1735
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 4: thriller costume, the iconic billowing white shirt thing, multiple scenes.

1736
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: Will you know have full stadium concerts and performances and

1737
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 4: stuff like that. There's even a shot of Michael getting

1738
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 4: a little bit too close to some pyrotechnics. This might

1739
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 4: be a hint at when Michael suffered severe burns when

1740
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 4: he was set on fire during a Pepsi commercial and

1741
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 4: apparently to believe that that incident is what caused his

1742
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 4: reliance on painkillers leading to his early death. Whether or

1743
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 4: not the film is going to deal with the Yakia stuff,

1744
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 4: do you know what I'm talking about, is yet to

1745
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 4: be seen, But you can find out on the twenty

1746
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 4: fourth of April next year, when probably all of us

1747
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 4: are going to go and watch it, because even though

1748
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 4: he's a creep, still makes some good song. Still yuck.

1749
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 4: Peter Lewis is going to be with us out of

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 4: Hong Kong shortly, going to talk us through the four

1751
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 4: red lines China has given the US, and I still

1752
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 4: have to tell you about the Treasury through telling the

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01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 4: government to start selling some stuff. News talks.

1754
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: Just whether it's macro micro, we're just playing economics. It's

1755
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and

1756
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: Mass for Insurance Investments and Hueye Safer. You're in good

1757
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: ads US talks EVA.

1758
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Speaker 4: Well, let's go wrong in the UK. It's almost disturbing.

1759
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a chat to Gavin Gray about that shortly.

1760
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 4: He's with us ten minutes titles and I've got bad

1761
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: news for you if you have been hanging out for

1762
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 4: Grand Theft Auto which at number six, which apparently a

1763
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 4: lot of people have. This is one of the most

1764
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 4: anticipated gaming releases ever. It's been delayed again. So we're

1765
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 4: supposed to come out now, and then it was delayed

1766
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Speaker 4: until May next year, and it has now been delayed

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: again until the nineteenth of November next year, so you

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Speaker 4: don't have to what whole year for it. The problem

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 4: with it is they need extra months to finish the

1770
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Speaker 4: game with the level of polish that fans had come

1771
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Speaker 4: to expect and deserve. Apparently twenty four away from seven

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Speaker 4: and with us now we have Peter Lewis our Asia

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Speaker 4: business correspondent, Alopiza.

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Speaker 9: Good evening, Heather.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of Taiwan being one of the

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Speaker 4: four centsitive lines?

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Speaker 21: Oh, no surprise, whatsoever? I mean for China, it is

1778
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 21: an absolute red line that can't be crossed in any way.

1779
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Speaker 21: It's not the only red line I mean the US ambassador.

1780
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Speaker 21: So the Chinese ambassador to the US set them out

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Speaker 21: this week what exactly China's red lines are in terms

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Speaker 21: of its relationships with the US, And of course Taiwan

1783
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 21: was mentioned as one of them, but the other three

1784
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Speaker 21: areas were democracy and human rights, then China's political system,

1785
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 21: and also China's overall development rights. China has often felt

1786
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Speaker 21: that the US is trying to interfere in its economic

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Speaker 21: and technological development and trying to hold it back and

1788
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Speaker 21: going well beyond what is just normal competition between two

1789
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Speaker 21: countries and two economies, and this is a big theme

1790
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Speaker 21: in its new five year plan that's going to take

1791
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Speaker 21: China's economic development up to the end of the decade,

1792
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Speaker 21: and technological technological development is very much center to that.

1793
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Speaker 21: China wants to be a leader in areas such as

1794
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Speaker 21: ai such as electric vehicles, photovoltaic cells and so on,

1795
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Speaker 21: all the latest sort of cutting edge technologies. China wants

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Speaker 21: to take the lead in that, and it sees the

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Speaker 21: US as deliberately trying to sort of hold it back

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Speaker 21: in that area. So the ambassador's remarks are not really

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Speaker 21: a surprise, they just reflect what Beijing has often insisted

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Speaker 21: on is its own sovereignty and autonomy in terms of

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Speaker 21: economic and technological areas and are is that have related

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Speaker 21: to its national security. But the fact that they have

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Speaker 21: to be spelt out in the first place does rather

1804
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Speaker 21: suggest that this agreement that President g and Donald Trump

1805
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Speaker 21: have come up with a week or so ago in

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Speaker 21: South Korea is rather fragile and it could almost fall

1807
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Speaker 21: apart at any time. It's not going to take much

1808
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 21: for something to happen to upset one side or the other,

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 21: and then we see exactly what we've seen over the

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Speaker 21: last few months. Then there's retaliatory measures, the other side responds,

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Speaker 21: and everything escalates again. It is a very very precarious

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Speaker 21: sort of trade truce that the two sides have between them.

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Speaker 4: You're too right. I see Donald Trump has said publicly

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Speaker 4: that she told him he will not move on Taiwan

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Speaker 4: in this particular term. So when is this particular term

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Speaker 4: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight, So

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Speaker 4: is she going to move after that?

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Speaker 21: I don't believe that she said that at all, because

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Speaker 21: President she is not prepared in any way to let

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Speaker 21: it be thought that there's any part of Taiwan that

1821
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 21: is up for negotiation. Its bottom line is that Taiwan

1822
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Speaker 21: is part of China. China has historic rights over that,

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Speaker 21: and it wants reunification between Taiwan and the mainland, and

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Speaker 21: it will do that by whatever means it deems necessary,

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Speaker 21: and it's not prepared to negotiate that at all or negotiate.

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Speaker 1: A why any part of that.

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Speaker 21: It expects other countries that want to have diplomatic relations

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Speaker 21: with China to accept what is known as the One

1829
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Speaker 21: China principle, and if countries don't accept that, then they

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Speaker 21: can't have a diplomatic relationship with China. What Trump didn't

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Speaker 21: say at all was what he would do if China

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Speaker 21: were to invade Taiwan. Would they intervene militarily? What would

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Speaker 21: they do exactly to stop them? And this has always

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Speaker 21: been the US position in some ways that there's an

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Speaker 21: ambiguity on what exactly is the policy towards Taiwan. Although

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Speaker 21: Joe Biden when he was the president, I think he

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Speaker 21: forgot about that's a couple of times and actually specifically

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Speaker 21: mentioned that the US would react. But I don't think

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Speaker 21: this is in any way calms down Taiwan. I think

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Speaker 21: there is still a general feeling out here in the

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Speaker 21: region that this is something that's up for negotiation, and

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Speaker 21: if Donald Trump thought he could get some sort of

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Speaker 21: grand bargain with President, he would negotiate away Taiwan and

1844
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,520
Speaker 21: they would be left to fend for themselves.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting as always, Peter, it's wonderful to talk to you.

1846
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Speaker 4: Thank you. We'll talk to you in a week's time.

1847
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Speaker 4: It's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent, nineteen away from

1848
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 4: seven do for ce Ellen. So Treasury is pushing the

1849
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Speaker 4: government to sell assets basically because of the state of

1850
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 4: our finances. So they've released the three yearly Investment Statement

1851
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 4: and basically pointed out that we are not paying our

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Speaker 4: way in terms of the operating deficit. Right, we have

1853
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: a structural deficit all the time, always always spending more

1854
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 4: than we actually bring in. So we've got to do

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Speaker 4: something about it. So the Treasury Secretary said, and at

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Speaker 4: an event to launch the report, we aren't going to

1857
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Speaker 4: grow our way out of the fiscal deficit. There will

1858
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 4: be a need for ongoing changes across the balance sheet.

1859
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Speaker 4: The Treasury says some government assets are underperforming, poorly maintained,

1860
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Speaker 4: and lack quality information. Regular assessments of the purpose, the

1861
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 4: performance and the governance of the Crown's assets would help

1862
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Speaker 4: increase the value that they provide for the public or

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Speaker 4: provide opportunities to reallocate capital to higher value assets now

1864
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Speaker 4: of the higher value use Now, the Treasury hasn't said

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Speaker 4: which assets which thinks should be sold, but last year

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Speaker 4: it did put out another document or was released under

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Speaker 4: the Official Information Act, and it listed a bunch of

1868
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 4: assets that it did not think we're doing particularly well.

1869
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 4: They are Kiwibank New Zealand Post, KiwiRail, New Zealand Railways,

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Speaker 4: TV and Z Transpower, Genesis Energy, Mercury, New Zealand, Meridian Energy,

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Speaker 4: christ Church Dunedin and Hawks Bay Airports, Airways, Met Service,

1872
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Speaker 4: Crown Infrastructure Partners, Quotable Value, cardia ecnz AS, sure Quality Land,

1873
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Speaker 4: Carped Farming and Public Trust. When I said that they're

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01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 4: all low performing, they're not all low performing. Some of

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01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 4: them are low performing. Some of them Treasury is not

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01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 4: clear as to why the government actually owns them or not,

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Speaker 4: so all of those should be up for debate. It

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Speaker 4: also said I didn't realize this, but do you realize

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Speaker 4: that the government owns seven percent of all of the

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Speaker 4: assets in this country seven percent five hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: one billion dollars, which is the equivalent for each of

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Speaker 4: us of one hundred and seven thousand dollars. Now what

1883
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 4: you should know, what you should understand about this is

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01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 4: Treasury always tells any government what they want to hear,

1885
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 4: right like to an extent you as the government, you

1886
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 4: could sort one point, nag and arge, I need some

1887
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 4: information on that, and so that's come out. And what

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01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 4: I think you should understand is that this government is

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Speaker 4: considering selling assets and making that part of the election

1890
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 4: thing that happens next year. And they can see that

1891
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 4: labour parties squaring up for a fight on us. So

1892
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 4: Treasury puts out a report and says some of the

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01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 4: assets should be sold. Now you've got your evidence that

1894
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 4: you need if you're the government. So oh look, Treasury

1895
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 4: needs us to sell it. Now we're going to run

1896
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 4: on selling it. That's what's going on there. Seventeen away

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Speaker 4: from seven.

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Speaker 2: Everything from SMS to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1899
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Speaker 2: with hither duplic Ellen and mayors for insurance investments and

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Speaker 2: Hui Safer.

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Speaker 1: You're in good hands.

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Speaker 4: News talks dea'd be fourteen away from seven. Devin Gray

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Speaker 4: are UK correspondents with us. Hello, Gevin, hi there. Now,

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Speaker 4: I know Congress wants to hear from the Andrew formerly

1905
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Speaker 4: known as Prince, but can they force him to come

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Speaker 4: over and talk.

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Speaker 26: To them only if they subpoena him, which hasn't been

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01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 26: ruled out, but at the moment that is not in place.

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Speaker 26: So this request to Andrew Mountbatman Winsor is simply that

1910
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 26: a request. But we now know that the Congressman Robert

1911
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Speaker 26: Garcia wrote to Prince Andrew or Andrew and in this

1912
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Speaker 26: letter addressed to the Royal Lodge wins a great part

1913
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Speaker 26: where he's still living until he has to go. We

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Speaker 26: wait to see what the result is, but basically they

1915
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,879
Speaker 26: said they want to ask him questions relating to information

1916
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Speaker 26: on Jeffrey Epstein, the late disgraced financier and abuser Jeffrey

1917
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Speaker 26: Epstein's network and also associates based on their quote long

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Speaker 26: standing friendship. It was signed by sixteen members of Congress,

1919
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Speaker 26: so this isn't like a lone wolf congressman who's deciding

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01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 26: to act on their own and request Andrew to sit

1921
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 26: for a transcribed interview.

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Speaker 5: And it refers to well.

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Speaker 26: Documented allegations against you, along with your long standing friendship

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Speaker 26: of Jeffrey Epstein, indicate you may possess knowledge of his

1925
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Speaker 26: activities relevant to our investigation. We request you cooperate with

1926
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 26: the committee's investigation by sitting for this transcribed interview with

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Speaker 26: the Committee. So we'll wait to see what response that's

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Speaker 26: going to get. In the past, there's always been a

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Speaker 26: suggestion that he won't go, but he is keen to

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Speaker 26: help the inquiry. Perhaps that may change now he's lost

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Speaker 26: his title, but.

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Speaker 5: I doubt it now.

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Speaker 4: Do you think now that the title has been formally removed,

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Speaker 4: this as the end of the pain for the royal family.

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Speaker 26: No, very much, not, because I think this is still

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Speaker 26: going to come up and bubble up, particularly while this

1937
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Speaker 26: inquiry in America is going on, and until he's moved

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Speaker 26: home as well. I don't think that's going to really

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Speaker 26: help things quiet and down. And that's because when he

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Speaker 26: drives in and out of the secure area often there

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Speaker 26: are photographers there and they do capture him in the

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Speaker 26: car looking either grumpy or happy or and of course

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Speaker 26: they're able to capture the visitors. Now when he goes

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Speaker 26: to Sandhurst, the family home in the East of England.

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Speaker 26: It's a massive estate with several entrances and exits. Lots

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Speaker 26: of people go in and out because there's lots of

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Speaker 26: staff who work.

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Speaker 5: There are lots of other.

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Speaker 26: Visitors to the Royal House. So I think it's going

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Speaker 26: to be a quieter life once he gets in there,

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Speaker 26: but as we now know, that could be still some

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Speaker 26: weeks away though, I hear King Charles is very keen

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Speaker 26: and happened sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 4: I see, now, how did they go in Birmingham.

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Speaker 26: Well, it's been a bit of a tense night. So

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Speaker 26: in Birmingham, in the Midlands. Here in the UK, there

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Speaker 26: was at long last this football match between mccarby Tel Aviv,

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Speaker 26: the Israeli side, and Aston Villa, a British side. Now

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Speaker 26: it's the problem is that the police had said, in

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Speaker 26: an area like Birmingham with a very very high Muslim population,

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Speaker 26: getting this football match underway safely would have been very

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Speaker 26: very difficult owing to the tensions between Israeli and Jews

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Speaker 26: and the Palestinians, and so consequently they actually decided to

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Speaker 26: ban supporters from mccarby Tel Aviv, something the Prime Minister

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Speaker 26: said was terrible and was going to change, he was

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Speaker 26: going to look at extra resources. In the end, Macarby

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Speaker 26: Tel Aviv said, well, we don't want our supporters to

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Speaker 26: go because we didn't think it's going to be safe either.

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Speaker 26: And I have to say the idea that supporters aren't

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Speaker 26: going to be safe in the UK is astounding. But

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Speaker 26: that was the decision that was made. And last night

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Speaker 26: seven hundred police officers tried to keep the two lots

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Speaker 26: of protests apart. That was protesters arriving in support of Israel,

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Speaker 26: others arriving to say that they're pleased Israel was banned

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Speaker 26: from the Israeli supporters banned from going. Eleven arrests were

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Speaker 26: made in total, and of those five on suspicion of

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Speaker 26: racially aggravated police order offenses. I have to say I

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Speaker 26: think it was much much less, much much less difficult

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Speaker 26: for the police than they had anticipated, and not much violence.

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Speaker 26: I'm very police to say broke out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is brilliant. Devin, thank you. Was always appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you on Monday. Devin Gray are UK correspondent.

1983
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Speaker 4: Here there was Landcorp on Treasury's list of potential SOE sales.

1984
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Speaker 4: Course it was course it was, you know it was

1985
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Speaker 4: should be rach Jang Oh Joys above Ray Chang. If

1986
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 4: you don't know who I'm talking about, he is the

1987
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Speaker 4: one who wrote the Pendulus Brists email about Tory Fanno.

1988
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Speaker 4: He's unwilling city Council's Now he's apparently hiring his own

1989
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Speaker 4: PR person in the I cannot tell you how weird

1990
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Speaker 4: this is. I've never heard of as city councilor anywhere

1991
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Speaker 4: hiring their own PR person. But he is doing this because,

1992
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Speaker 4: as he says, he keeps getting into trouble speaking to

1993
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Speaker 4: the media and he claims being misquoted. So he's currently

1994
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Speaker 4: in the process of appointing someone and negotiating their pay.

1995
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Speaker 4: I don't know how much they're gonna get paid. I mean,

1996
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Speaker 4: maybe they're going to do part time, because he is

1997
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Speaker 4: expected to earn maybe up to one hundred and twenty

1998
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year in his position on the council.

1999
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Speaker 4: So once you get your one twenty thoul and then

2000
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 4: you take out your tax, so what are you left

2001
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Speaker 4: with there? It's maybe like ninety or something like eighty

2002
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 4: five something like that, and then how much Please tell

2003
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 4: me this is not his own income stream because by

2004
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 4: the time he's paid all his bills and like fed himself,

2005
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 4: he's going to have nothing for the person. I'm assuming

2006
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 4: he's independently wealthy, right, I'm going to assume that. So

2007
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 4: it's not the worst idea that I've ever but it

2008
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 4: is very unusual. Nine away from seven.

2009
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Speaker 2: It's the Heather too for see Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZB.

2011
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Speaker 4: Heather ex Prince Andrew has only been asked to get

2012
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Speaker 4: on a plane and go to America, so he can

2013
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 4: say yes, well, maybe he cannot go Trevis. This is

2014
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: a good point. I wonder if if he decides to

2015
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 4: say no, is he never allowed to go to America again?

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Speaker 9: Is it like that?

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Speaker 4: Is it that serious? I suspect not, because it's just

2018
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 4: a request from Congress. Congress asks for stuff all of

2019
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 4: the time, and it's only serious I suppose if they

2020
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 4: subpoena him, which there means you can't go visit your mate,

2021
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 4: and well mate's dead anyway now and they six away

2022
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Speaker 4: from seven now. I was telling you a couple of

2023
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 4: days ago about Kim Kardashian's new TV show and how

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01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 4: it's apparently so bad that it had like zero percent

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01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 4: rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and the Guardian gave it zero stars.

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01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 4: And the Guardian has in the past, I think fifteen

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01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: times given shows zero stars, but fifteen times in the

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01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 4: history of the Guardian shows you have to be quite

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01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 4: bad to get it anyway. So then the question is, well,

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Speaker 4: is it really bad enough to deserve the zero stars? Well,

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01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 4: let me run you through what some others have said.

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Speaker 4: I guess the Guardian said this that the Guardian piece

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Speaker 4: started with the line I did not know it was

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Speaker 4: still possible to make television this bad. Every review that

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01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,839
Speaker 4: came out afterwards hated the show as well. The Times

2036
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: also gave it a zero star. Review says the show

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01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 4: felt like it had been written by a toddler who

2038
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 4: couldn't write bum on a wall. USA Today wrote it

2039
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 4: is so stilted, so artificial and awkward. Not even a

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01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 4: glass of wine and left over Halloween candy can make

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01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 4: it remotely enjoyable to watch the rap said, one wonders

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01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 4: if Murphy, that's Ryan Murphy, who's behind it. If Murphy

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01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 4: is engaged in some sort of social experiment to see

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Speaker 4: if he can get away with making the most transparently

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Speaker 4: terrible show on Disney's Dime, and The Telegraph's Ed Power

2046
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 4: gave it a one star review, which some are seeing

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01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 4: as basically a rave. Like he loved it if it

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01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: only got one star. He called the show a disaster

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Speaker 4: zone of soapy plotting and wreaking dialogue. Rotten tomatoes since

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01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 4: lifted slightly and has gone from zero percent to six percent.

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Speaker 4: So that's a crazy rave right there.

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Speaker 31: When you got ants, that'll be that one star dragging

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01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 31: the average up. Don't stop believing by Journey to play

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Speaker 31: a game.

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Speaker 4: Yea yea yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah yah yeah good, Paul.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, because Journey is breaking up either after all those

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01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 31: years together, the band is splitting up. They're going to

2058
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 31: be doing a farewell tour next year. You'll have to

2059
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 31: get over to North America. You were saying, Canada if

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01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 31: you want to go from February to July. From the

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01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 31: looks of it, reading between the lines, the guitarist who's

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01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 31: been on board since the beginning and one of the

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Speaker 31: keys players who's been on board since nineteen eighty, they

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01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 31: don't get along anymore. So that's sort of the end

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Speaker 31: of that.

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01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 4: Now, why did I feel like we already knew that

2067
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 4: they were breaking up or was the latest news that

2068
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 4: they were doing this tour? And now the news is

2069
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 4: that the tour that they announced the other day. Fine,

2070
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 4: old me.

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01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 17: I had no idea Journey was still together.

2072
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 4: Do you know how I knew this was because do

2073
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 4: you know Dan Mitchinson, who's our US correspondent, is obsessed

2074
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: with them. Oh that's a band.

2075
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 31: Yeah, I'll tell you what if they do one in

2076
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 31: the Bay Area, absolutely damned. He'll probably go to several

2077
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 31: shows if they do something.

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01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 4: Question for you, though, if they announced the coming to Auckland,

2079
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 4: would you go?

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01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 31: Absolutely not. It's not my kind of music. I'm happy

2081
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 31: for people who want to go and enjoy it. But

2082
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 31: yeah no, because it's a really good song. Well maybe

2083
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 31: maybe one for the concert club. I get on the

2084
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 31: phone of Sortner right now, see if you can book it.

2085
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 4: Oh lord, Yeah. My mate at eden Park show said,

2086
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 4: do you reckon Journey could fill out Eden Park?

2087
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 9: No?

2088
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 17: No, you've got twenty shows. I mean here's one now

2089
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 17: you left, think another nineteen?

2090
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 6: Right?

2091
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 4: I love this now. I bought tickets to something that

2092
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 4: Oh Pulp, you told us, you said, Pulp. And then

2093
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 4: then one of the concert club was listening and she

2094
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: was like, absolutely, we're going to pop.

2095
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 31: We got tickets to Pulp excellent. What happened a Snoop

2096
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 31: Dogg By the way, I was in Japan for that.

2097
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 4: What happened there and he canceled. What a surprisor shock,

2098
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 4: But we got our money back, which I think was

2099
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 4: the biggest shock anyway, See you on Monday. Look after

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Speaker 4: Yourself

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