1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: In the Brady's Are UK correspondent this evening evening. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Inda, Hello, Heather, good to speak to you again. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Are you following this case about the nurse who murdered 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: the babies? 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so this is very interesting because it's a retrial. 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: So Lucy let Be is her name. You may have 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: heard that name last year when she was convicted in 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: a separate case. So I'll just explain what happened last 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: year because it's important. Thirty four year old nurse hospital 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: in Chester, which is on the Welsh border up in 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: the northwest of England, and she was convicted of the 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: murders of seven infants and the attempted murders of seven more. Now, crucially, 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: the jury could not reach verdicts on six counts of 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: attempted murder. They were basically parked while she was jailed 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: for the fourteen crimes she was convicted of. So seven 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: murders and seven attempted murders she got fourteen life sentences 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: and she has been told she will die in prison now. 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Of the six charges that the jury couldn't reach verdicts on, 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: what the prosecution have done now is they've come back 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: with one of those cases as a little baby girl. 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: They're all given a letter of the alphabet by Kay 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: a little baby girl who died in February twenty sixteen. Sorry, 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: she was attacked in February twenty sixteen, and the prosecution 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: are now saying that that was attempted murder committed by 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: Lucy Leppie. She denies the charges and the trial is 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: now under way and in the opening stages the prosecution 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: have said that all that evidence last year in her 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: convictions form a very significant part of their case in 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: this so it's attempted murder, which she denies. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Really interesting that the jury have been told that she's 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: already been convicted for murders, because generally you try to 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: keep those things separate, right, so that one accusation doesn't 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: doesn't tat the following jury. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: I would say traditionally illegally yes, But unfortunately her face 35 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: has been all over every newspaper here in the past 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: twelve months, and you know, you could walk out onto 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: the street and say do you recognize this woman and 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: they would say, oh, isn't she that nurse? So I 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: think the lawyers and there have been lots of legal discus, 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: but I'm sure they've basically just said to the jury 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: that you know, you may reorganize this defendant or you 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: may know this name. This is what has happened. Yeah, 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: so it's but she's entitled to a fair trial, which 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: she will get. She denies the charge of attempted murder, 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: and the case continues. 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: In this rice between this contition between Rishie Sunek and 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Sir Kiyastama, to be the most normal is getting ridiculous, right, 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: has reached a new low point for the SkyTV stuff, 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: hasn't it. 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Well, look he said it. You know, you wonder who's 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: advising Sunac because he was asked the question, you know, 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: what sacrifices have you made? And he stumbled and bumbled 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: as he just keeps doing. And then eventually when he 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: was asked to name one sacrifice he had made, he 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: said that he didn't have Sky TV basically Fox Tell 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: it's about one hundred and twenty dollars a month now, 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: and I used to work there, and I know the 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: sky system inside out. I was there for two decades. 59 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: He said that as a young person growing up, he 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: famously is the words he used famously, we didn't have 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: sky I think to even bring up subscription TV that's 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty dollars a month when there are 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: children in the UK right now on his government's watch 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: not getting two meals a day. There are two two 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: hundred food banks where people are going to get their food. 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's staggering that he has even said this 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: and Starmer. I watched the debate last night between the 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: two of them in Grimsby and I thought Starmer absolutely 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: smashed it. I thought he had answers for everything. He 70 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: looked like a Prime Minister in waiting and the key 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: phrase he kept saying was country first, Party second. And 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: I think, hand on heart, the most true blue Conservatives 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: in the country for the last fourteen years, if they 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: were asked that question, could you truly say that your 75 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: people have put the country over the party? I don't 76 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: think they could answer that honestly. 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair point. Actually, Hey, Inda, as always, 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll check you again. Nick's Tuesday 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: look after yourself. That's Indo Brady how UK Correspondent. 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: For more from Hither duplus Yellen Drive, listen live to 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be four pm weekdays, or follow the 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio.