Speaker 1: You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2: I'd be.
Speaker 3: First and foremost. Greetings and good evening. My name is Marcus.
Speaker 3: Welcome here till twelve o'clock tonight. I hope it's good
Speaker 3: where you arerish also too, I can tell you tonight
Speaker 3: that the Broncos will be playing against the Roosters. That's
Speaker 3: not in Queensland, so that will be in city that
Speaker 3: will be fine with the weather. So that's the situation.
Speaker 3: I'll bring you updates. That's the first of the NRAL matches.
Speaker 3: That's not part of the Vegas openings. That's good to see,
Speaker 3: so Kerrigan's team. Anyway, I'll keep you updated with that
Speaker 3: also throughout the course of the evening. I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of a by the way, first and foremost, or that
Speaker 3: was first and foremost, But I was very excited to
Speaker 3: wake up this morning and tea that we won the
Speaker 3: cricket handsomely. It generally feels like a golden age of cricket,
Speaker 3: doesn't it. So that was awesome. So looking forward to
Speaker 3: the final of that one extremely excited because I couldn't
Speaker 3: see the story of other jeepist creepers. Where is it.
Speaker 3: I thought we must have lost. I couldn't see it
Speaker 3: on the front page of the website, but anyway, went
Speaker 3: to Sport and they saw it, so that was very
Speaker 3: kind of glad and stapped to watch it because we've
Speaker 3: been grumpy today. But anyway, I'm very heartened that that's happened.
Speaker 3: So yes, the Golden Age of cricket and three different
Speaker 3: codes I mean Jeepist, Creepers twenty twenty one day and
Speaker 3: the tests, so we get more bang for our bucket.
Speaker 3: We're better at it than we've ever been before. That
Speaker 3: would be my suggestion. I'd imagine in video games you
Speaker 3: could actually put this team against one of the other
Speaker 3: teams and see how they compete. But I think they
Speaker 3: do for every Well, I'm kind of slightly taken a
Speaker 3: bit sideways, so I've just been on the ODT website
Speaker 3: and which is fine. I enjoy stories of the South
Speaker 3: because I love a for the killer, but it looks
Speaker 3: like they seeking in Queenstown fast Track consent for a
Speaker 3: funicular furnace from the latinicular FORNICULARI a funicular to go
Speaker 3: from one mile round about with John the Road to
Speaker 3: Glendorky right up Fern Hill. So there we go. We
Speaker 3: haven't got many forniculas in this country that we've probably
Speaker 3: only got the one, which would be the cable car.
Speaker 3: So there we go. There's a fast track consent for
Speaker 3: a funicular railway rising steeply from Queenstown's one mile roundabout
Speaker 3: towards Fernhill, Ben Loman and Bowen Peak. Goodness may that's exciting.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't want something exciting like that to happen? So anyway,
Speaker 3: that's what tappened me. That's what I'm just reading about
Speaker 3: and trying to work out where the map of that goes.
Speaker 3: So I don't even know where bow and Peak is
Speaker 3: in Queenstown. I can't find that. Apparently it's in Milford Sound,
Speaker 3: so there must be another one. But anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 3: mind you they're always talking about cable cars. Aren't they
Speaker 3: going to happen? There's a hell situation. I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: cable cars go across the White Mata, but that never happened.
Speaker 3: But anyway, do get in touch if you want to talk.
Speaker 3: My name is Marcus. Welcome HITDT twelve o'clock tonight, first
Speaker 3: and foremost tonight. Now that I've got everything out of
Speaker 3: the way, that I need to tell you about is
Speaker 3: the fact that we've got the situation with the weather
Speaker 3: system that's heading towards Queensland and New South Wales almost
Speaker 3: where the two coincide. So if we have got people
Speaker 3: listening there, and I know that we get a fair
Speaker 3: few that ring from time to time, I'd be curious
Speaker 3: to hear from you what the state of the nation
Speaker 3: is there. Look, I know that probably the fact that
Speaker 3: it's slowed down mean there's going to be higher rainfall.
Speaker 3: So if you've got a progress report there how it is,
Speaker 3: and we've seen days now of shots of showing supermarkets
Speaker 3: with empty shelves, I'm just curious from you to know
Speaker 3: how that's all going and what that's like. So you've
Speaker 3: got some information about that, get in touch with us
Speaker 3: about that. So it slowed down, it won't really hit
Speaker 3: till Saturday, so it's much much slower, But that just
Speaker 3: means as it's slower, it'll rain for longer and there
Speaker 3: will be more rainfall, so there's more of a risk
Speaker 3: of flooding. So if you've got something to say about that,
Speaker 3: then that's what we're about to begin with tonight. Oh
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I'll do my damn just
Speaker 3: to keep you in focus and up to date with that,
Speaker 3: and it toway, but it's slowed right down. It'll take
Speaker 3: two more days before it arrives. So you've got some
Speaker 3: information about that, do let us know, oh, eight hundred
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two detext. If
Speaker 3: you've got something to tell us about that. I suspe
Speaker 3: and I've got no real reason to say this, but
Speaker 3: the fact I don't know if it's not the headline
Speaker 3: news that I expected to be, might mean that people
Speaker 3: don't think it's as bad, or it's just that it's
Speaker 3: delayed for a day, so it's going to be putting
Speaker 3: off the inevitable. Anyway. You might want to talk about that,
Speaker 3: particularly if you are in Queensland or Brisbane. Specifically, this
Speaker 3: is Cyclone Alfred. There's live updates of it. The tracking
Speaker 3: predicts Tropical Cyclone Alfred will cross the coast on Saturday
Speaker 3: near Brisbane, the first storm of its size to do
Speaker 3: so in decades, and that's the information there. So they've
Speaker 3: been telling people in South Lisible to evacuate. A lot happening.
Speaker 3: Is a lot to talk about with that. It just
Speaker 3: kind of seems that no one really knows what's going
Speaker 3: to happen. The other thing I want to know. That's
Speaker 3: just a random question. Has anyone done? Has anyone done?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: This is like a strange question. Has anyone done an
Speaker 3: online cooking course? You know how people used to go
Speaker 3: Tonight's school and do cooking and stuff like that. Apparently
Speaker 3: those sorts of things have now moved online. I don't
Speaker 3: know about this. So has anyone done a course with
Speaker 3: a live instructor and that is online. I've got no
Speaker 3: interest in doing it. I'm just free curious. It wasn't
Speaker 3: something I've known about. So is anyone in an online
Speaker 3: cooking course? I've got no idea how that would work,
Speaker 3: but I'm putting it out there. That's my beginning topic
Speaker 3: for tonight, as well as cycling Alfred. If you have
Speaker 3: done an online cooking course or any course online in
Speaker 3: real time where it's like you go to a room,
Speaker 3: but instead of going to a room, you're just logging
Speaker 3: onto your computer and they say welcome class, and they
Speaker 3: take you through something. I don't even know it was
Speaker 3: a thing, but yeah, apparently I was reading about an
Speaker 3: online cooking course in New Orleans today well, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you do an online cooking course or an
Speaker 3: online language course with a live shooter, Marcus, online course
Speaker 3: is nothing like an insurance company wanting to do a
Speaker 3: link video assessment. They asked me questions. I see, I'm
Speaker 3: not a builder. Their premiums is huge. They expect me
Speaker 3: to video and send pics. Oh, well, I'm not that
Speaker 3: happy with how people are using the technology. Well, they're
Speaker 3: trying to work out what the value of your house was.
Speaker 3: You might need to send me some more information about
Speaker 3: that again in touch, Marcus, till twelve, you do want
Speaker 3: to come through eight hundred and eighty online courses. Marcus,
Speaker 3: you are correct. The center of the cyclone moving at
Speaker 3: four kilometers per hour. God, that's a slow sitting on
Speaker 3: this treadmill. Gosh, we can all do four k's prior.
Speaker 3: That's a slow walk. So literally, it's moving that slowly thing,
Speaker 3: stopping then going and changing direction. Apparently all the talk
Speaker 3: on Awkland this morning was how cold it was. Kind
Speaker 3: of surprises me and I don't quite know what does
Speaker 3: it surprise me? And it does surprise me. Autumn comes
Speaker 3: along and suddenly, even though it's an arbit tree day,
Speaker 3: everything feels very different from that very day. You know
Speaker 3: that we start autumn on the first of March. I
Speaker 3: know in Europe it's on the twenty second. But even
Speaker 3: though even that, with that arbit tree day, he sees
Speaker 3: it changing. Oh yeah, it feels slightly cooler. It must
Speaker 3: all be psychological. I'm sure of it. She hasn't got
Speaker 3: cooler just a day. Further, I don't even know what happens.
Speaker 3: Sun moves or something moves anyway, Scott Marcus, Welcome.
Speaker 5: Hi Marcus. I'm mainly calling in regards to something you
Speaker 5: were talking about last night but picked up on today
Speaker 5: on the podcast. Anyone had been Pakistan? Yes, and I
Speaker 5: haven't met a lot of whore. But I went to
Speaker 5: Karachi two years ago to watch the Black Cats.
Speaker 3: Was it a pleasant experience for you?
Speaker 5: Oh it was fantastic.
Speaker 3: It must have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: I mean it's not I mean possibly other places in Pakistan,
Speaker 5: but Karachi is not someone that gets any sort of
Speaker 5: tourism whatsoever, the like. I was there for four days
Speaker 5: and I didn't see another white person the side of
Speaker 5: the Black Cats.
Speaker 3: Because I would have imagine, just just just hang on
Speaker 3: this case. I'll come back to you just hold your horses.
Speaker 3: We'll get to you. Scott. Did you just speak to
Speaker 3: others that had been before to go to games in Karachi?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know anyone that's ever been to Pakistan.
Speaker 5: I mean except a couple of immigrants I know here
Speaker 5: from the country, but I don't know any Western people
Speaker 5: that have gone.
Speaker 3: So what were the challenges.
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 5: There wasn't really any challenges. I mean, you had to
Speaker 5: apply for a visa, but that's the same everywhere. I
Speaker 5: just had a couple of funny incidents. When I first
Speaker 5: arrived at the airport there, the guy said, oh, are
Speaker 5: you playing? And I said no, I'm just going to watch.
Speaker 5: And he can't believe it because he was kind of
Speaker 5: looking through my passport, like's your sports visa? And I said, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not playing. He said he you're sure, and I
Speaker 5: said I'm sure. And then I made friends with some
Speaker 5: local guys and they took me on a trip out
Speaker 5: to the beach on their motorbike and we got pulled
Speaker 5: over by the cops and I said, this guy shouldn't
Speaker 5: be here by himself. Where's the security And I said,
Speaker 5: I don't have any security. And I said, but you're
Speaker 5: in the team. You need to have security. But I'll
Speaker 5: tell you a funny, interesting story, though, is so that
Speaker 5: fantastic people that focused on He's just very very very hospitable,
Speaker 5: very generous. But the first morning I was here, I
Speaker 5: kind of went for a walk around, you know, just
Speaker 5: checking out the place. And I walked up this little
Speaker 5: alleyway near where I was staying, and this kid ran
Speaker 5: past me. And he's eight year old, a ten year old,
Speaker 5: and he's wearing a Wellington Hurricanes jersey. And you know,
Speaker 5: that was pretty much the only item of Western clothing
Speaker 5: I saw anyone wearing for four days.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 5: I have no idea how he got I don't know
Speaker 5: if it was sent over by a relative or it
Speaker 5: was just the most Because I saw it the first morning,
Speaker 5: I thought, maybe maybe I'm going to see a lot
Speaker 5: of this kind of thing. But I basically I didn't
Speaker 5: even see anyone else wearing a T shirt the whole time.
Speaker 5: Let Aloner in New Zealand, Ruggy Juicy.
Speaker 3: Was it hard to get to the venue?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, I mean they've got there's plenty of transport there.
Speaker 5: I got like a ritual kind of thing that it
Speaker 5: was about. I mean, that part was easy, but getting
Speaker 5: into the venue because I'm sure you're wear but I
Speaker 5: believe in about two thousand and nine when the black
Speaker 5: Cats were last year and there was the bombing, so
Speaker 5: I guess everything was on high alert, like kind of
Speaker 5: around the stadium was surrounded by I don't know if
Speaker 5: they were police off theyre army. I think there's probably
Speaker 5: a fine line there, but you know, there was there
Speaker 5: was a guy with a there's a guy with the
Speaker 5: garden kind of every twenty meters and there were you know,
Speaker 5: they were checking everyone's bags. They were checking everyone pretty
Speaker 5: closely that you know, no one was caring anything dangerous.
Speaker 3: And just with the timing, this was one of the
Speaker 3: first games that started playing back in Pakistan. Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically I always thought this sounds like an you know,
Speaker 5: like I'd always just thought it would be awesome. I've
Speaker 5: been to I've been to IPL game, and I've been
Speaker 5: to a T twenty World Cup game in India and
Speaker 5: that was cool. But I thought it would be cool
Speaker 5: to go some it would be I don't know. I
Speaker 5: guess I'd always wanted to check out other places and
Speaker 5: South Asia. I don't know if you I don't know
Speaker 5: if to say the subcontinent anymore if that successful or not. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I wanted to check out at the places, and
Speaker 5: I thought, well, as the black Caps they go back
Speaker 5: to Pakistan, it would be that would be a good
Speaker 5: reason to go.
Speaker 3: And I did it great, okay, and all in all
Speaker 3: a should you successful time?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a great time. And the second game
Speaker 5: I went, so I got mobs for about the minutes,
Speaker 5: just if people wanted to shake my hand and take selfies,
Speaker 5: and you know, they never had a chance.
Speaker 3: Cold and Auckland this morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well actually that was the other thing that kind
Speaker 5: of I wake up this morning and I thought, well,
Speaker 5: this is freezing and I've had it. You know, I've
Speaker 5: seen a few people discuss it, and apparently it's related
Speaker 5: to the cyclone.
Speaker 3: And sucked the cold air up or.
Speaker 5: Something exactly that's pulling the southern cold air up and
Speaker 5: so and so it wasn't like you know that we're
Speaker 5: slightly going into autumn and every day changing incrementally, like
Speaker 5: this morning it felt like a good five or so
Speaker 5: degrees colder than yesterday morning in the morning before.
Speaker 3: So nice dear for Scott, thanks so much, Marcus. I'm
Speaker 3: in Hamilton today I can't wait for those vape shops
Speaker 3: to start going broke, disgusting. Do you look in places
Speaker 3: be far better off without them, you know, I remeb
Speaker 3: there must be reboring shops to work in a vape shop.
Speaker 3: They always looked disinterested the times I went to. They
Speaker 3: went't much help for me either. Awklan at midnight quite
Speaker 3: warm before I am very chili. That's from Sarah Marcus.
Speaker 3: I believe that our great and grandmother's were the best
Speaker 3: of a cook. Who could forget the great taste cooking
Speaker 3: roam that made us drill in my eighty seven years.
Speaker 3: I can't copy their inherent skills. Fornicular From where to where?
Speaker 3: From the one mile round about, up Fern Hill and
Speaker 3: up Bowen's Peak. This is happening in Queenstown. The guy's
Speaker 3: gonna build houses like Swiss chalets and the hill there's
Speaker 3: going to be a funicular up and down. Someone said,
Speaker 3: what is a funicular? Parnicular is like a cable car.
Speaker 3: I think it is a cable car. I think the
Speaker 3: word funicular means rope. That would be my understanding of that.
Speaker 3: I think the cable car and Wellington is really a fornicular.
Speaker 3: I don't know that it between a pnicular and a
Speaker 3: cable car. It's a strong metal rope. They seem to
Speaker 3: have them in Spain and places, and I think there
Speaker 3: is one in la There might be a good topic tonight.
Speaker 3: The forniculars you've been to around the world. So it's
Speaker 3: got two counterbalanced it's got two counterbalanced carriages, so one
Speaker 3: goes down the other one goes up. So I think
Speaker 3: the one in christ and Wellington very much is a
Speaker 3: forticular forniculus fourness from the Latin word from a rope,
Speaker 3: So you've got two carriages permanently connected with a rope.
Speaker 3: One goes down, the other one goes up. There are
Speaker 3: some There are some funiculars I don't even though are ferniculars.
Speaker 3: There are some cable cars in Europe that are driven
Speaker 3: by water, and there is a source of water at
Speaker 3: the top that goes into a cavity in one of
Speaker 3: the cable cars that takes one down and the lighter
Speaker 3: one up where the water gets emptied. It seems amazing,
Speaker 3: doesn't it, But that's a real thing. I think there's one,
Speaker 3: and maybe where am I thinking? It's on my list
Speaker 3: of things I want to do as the water powered
Speaker 3: cable car. It's called a water balance railway. You've been
Speaker 3: on one, amazing, Peter Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 8: Believe me, Marcus. I'll be watching the channel eighty five
Speaker 8: Sky News and I just couldn't believe what I was
Speaker 8: watching on that news about the storm. There are people
Speaker 8: surfing from the Gold Coast and they were worn not
Speaker 8: to go down there. And I just thought absolutely maddening.
Speaker 8: And I said to myself, if they get caught in
Speaker 8: a rip, get sucked out, expect to come come back again.
Speaker 3: And have you Peter, Peter question, what are you going
Speaker 3: to say? I, personally just hold that phrase when you
Speaker 3: start with eye personally remember your thought. Okay, yep, you've
Speaker 3: a serfed.
Speaker 8: I have served, Yes, you do?
Speaker 3: You know many surfers? None where have you said?
Speaker 8: Seventy two? So I serve when I was in my
Speaker 8: teens and twenty he is, you know, brighton beat break?
Speaker 3: Because I think I know about the thing I know
Speaker 3: about surfers. They're always looking for the ultimate wave and
Speaker 3: if that comes with a cyclone and then good on them.
Speaker 8: And if anything went wrong, they expect to be picked up.
Speaker 3: But no, they don't. I don't think. I think so
Speaker 3: I think surfers always risky themselves.
Speaker 8: Oh well enough, that's good, but when you're told not
Speaker 8: to go, you just don't do it. And I I
Speaker 8: think that the storm they say it's going to come,
Speaker 8: and they've even got a time down for it too.
Speaker 8: I heard three fifty six pm their time, Brisbane time
Speaker 8: tomorrow said day.
Speaker 3: He said day.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, that's that's right. I just said he three
Speaker 8: fifty six pm. I thought, well, how the hell can
Speaker 8: they tell a time is going to come? Come with?
Speaker 8: It gets you, But it's going, as you said, four
Speaker 8: K and a whatever it is. But my second thing
Speaker 8: I want to talk about too, Western Springs Speedway. A
Speaker 8: lot of people in that suburb there want it closed down.
Speaker 8: And my answer to that is you knew it was
Speaker 8: there when you when you bought your property. It's been
Speaker 8: there for ninety plus years. Just get on with it
Speaker 8: and live there. It's only one night a week, saiday,
Speaker 8: night or what.
Speaker 3: I think it's more complicated than that. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's the residents that are opposed, is it.
Speaker 8: I saw on seven sharp tonight, Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: And sort the day to a story on it.
Speaker 9: Yeah they did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the last it was the last.
Speaker 3: I'd be excited to live next to something like that
Speaker 3: happening that I mean to me, that would be a bonus.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, if you follow speedway, it's good, but follow anything.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got people walking past your house. We're
Speaker 3: willing that you feel like you're part of something.
Speaker 8: Well, they said, I agree with you last speedway. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 8: we're off for the speedway. And my answer the letters
Speaker 8: that was there ninety years ago, your house. You bought
Speaker 8: the property, you knew it was there, so don't complain.
Speaker 3: You can say a lot of things. You can say
Speaker 3: that a giant old cold station was there ninety years
Speaker 3: ago and things aren't what they once were were they?
Speaker 3: Or the night the you know, what's the night storm?
Speaker 3: You know the nightman. What's the guy that came around
Speaker 3: and get the syerage called dump h the nightment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he could be next door or there could be you know.
Speaker 3: I think people's attitudes do change, though, don't they. But
Speaker 3: we'll talk more about speed Yeah, we'll talk more about speedway.
Speaker 3: But I'm just on the ads.
Speaker 10: But thank you.
Speaker 3: Just trying to work out whether the train in the
Speaker 3: Blue Mountains as a fornicular someone will know. Mark Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 11: With a conversation. Do we want to talk about speedway
Speaker 11: or do we want to talk about the weather.
Speaker 3: Look, I've sat here for forty years and people have
Speaker 3: always talked about speedway. And it's always a lot more
Speaker 3: confusing than you'd think, isn't it. Do you know that?
Speaker 3: Do you know the whys and wherefors?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I've lived near it, been in there, lived a
Speaker 11: little bit away from it. It's look, my, it's boiled
Speaker 11: down under this spectator sport. Oh man, it's fantastic watching it,
Speaker 11: being at the back, even being involved. Oh, it's fantastic,
Speaker 11: very exciting. The thing is summer is only twelve weeks long. Really,
Speaker 11: it's only twelve or thirteen weeks long. And these guys
Speaker 11: rise every Saturday night when you're sitting back chilling with
Speaker 11: the family, the barbecues that set. It's summer Brown. I
Speaker 11: lived in Parmerston North. It's the noise during that time
Speaker 11: of the year on that Saturday night is unbelievable across
Speaker 11: the isthmus of Parmison North. Lived there for three years.
Speaker 3: Are you Parmiston North, Because I don't think parmis the
Speaker 3: North and ismus.
Speaker 11: Sorry, well, no, it's not. Sorry, the what would you
Speaker 11: call it? The flat plane?
Speaker 3: Okay? Haang on now back.
Speaker 4: I like this.
Speaker 3: I like the sound you make. Do you think it's
Speaker 3: a good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 11: It should just been in an appropriate location that is
Speaker 11: not urban or suburban.
Speaker 3: Is it enjoyable? Is it enjoyable sound?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 11: Man, when you're in there and you're locked it. Yeah,
Speaker 11: it's great fun.
Speaker 9: Look it is exast.
Speaker 3: I say, if you're in there and part of it.
Speaker 3: But if it's happening putting the kids to sleep, it's
Speaker 3: not so good.
Speaker 11: If you are anywhere near where it's happening and you're
Speaker 11: not involved in it is absolutely it's like chainsaws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a nice sound.
Speaker 11: Seven pm to nine thirty pm on a Saturday night
Speaker 11: in the middle of summer.
Speaker 3: Would you rather go to the speedway or going to fornicula?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 11: Vernicular? Man of dark? Call? Aren't they aren't? Isn't raal?
Speaker 11: It's something cool and if romantic about rail and trams
Speaker 11: and verniculas and de.
Speaker 3: Mark. I think it's funicular with a with an if
Speaker 3: not with a V. Funicular funicular. That's all right. I
Speaker 3: appreciate you radio.
Speaker 11: I'm trying phonics and all that. No, look it is
Speaker 11: there's a lot more fat, isn't there. There's a lot
Speaker 11: more value in a chatter about transport.
Speaker 3: Did you see seven sharp tonight with them talking about
Speaker 3: Western Springs? No, okay, we'll seeven. Get someone to let
Speaker 3: us know what the actual vibe was of the story
Speaker 3: that they are moving to waka a park where the
Speaker 3: story has gone on forever. And I presume it's a
Speaker 3: sport that's waning slightly. We at home playing grand theft auto,
Speaker 3: aren't they. I mean, I don't know this, but gosh,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Wikipedia page of nic is Gee
Speaker 3: there's a lot. There must be abound a thousand around
Speaker 3: the world. There's also one of the Craiger burned Valley
Speaker 3: and the Scarya I didn't know about, so you didn't
Speaker 3: actually got two food nickellars. Michael Marcus welcome, Hey Marcus,
Speaker 3: here you go, bro good, Thank you Michael.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 13: I just I love your shows. It's a bit out there,
Speaker 13: but I love it. And this morning I woke up cold.
Speaker 13: It's like, what the hell is the greatest summer we've
Speaker 13: ever had?
Speaker 9: And it was cold?
Speaker 13: Right now I'm in the Albany gas stations and I'm
Speaker 13: cold hell and.
Speaker 3: That must be to do with the storm and things
Speaker 3: coming in, right, I.
Speaker 13: Don't know that's Australian.
Speaker 2: This is New Zealand.
Speaker 3: I think I think it draws stuff across.
Speaker 13: Well, no, because our cold comes up from the fantastic.
Speaker 3: We get a fundy if you look hang on, if
Speaker 3: you look at it, what's it called cycle? If you
Speaker 3: look at a picture of cyclone Albert right, is it
Speaker 3: Albert or alt Alfred? If you look at cycloning Alfred right,
Speaker 3: it's messing.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's it's a biggie And you know and and
Speaker 13: you know one of what I tell you what changes
Speaker 13: und totally one of the most amazing things I found.
Speaker 13: I'm a demolition contract. I found a suitcase full of
Speaker 13: Cyclone Tracy album from photos.
Speaker 2: Wow, blew me away?
Speaker 13: Wow, what's what's that work?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: What's that about you?
Speaker 13: At the end of the day?
Speaker 3: Do you know about Cyclone Tracy apart from what's on
Speaker 3: your suitcase?
Speaker 13: Well, it was done in Sidney four, wasn't it.
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 3: And no one died because they're all drunk, that's the no.
Speaker 13: A lot of a lot of people got killed by
Speaker 13: corry and iron. You know, it was an amazing times.
Speaker 13: But getting back to the original conversation, I just left
Speaker 13: the Albany Dull service station and I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what the best one because it ever had Yes,
Speaker 3: that would be right, Yeah, I reckon, it's you're not
Speaker 3: got a puffer jacket.
Speaker 13: No no, I just had this blurro and the short
Speaker 13: the work boots and all the boring stuff.
Speaker 3: What are you demolishing?
Speaker 13: We've just done what's we called the the Island walls
Speaker 13: or the Tottenham walls are falling over because they did
Speaker 13: every foundations. Just drop one of those done half a
Speaker 13: villa and ponstanby.
Speaker 3: What sort of walls are or falling apart?
Speaker 13: Okay, so the infamous Poland walls and no disrespect to
Speaker 13: Sotland's got to love the islanders, that's amazing. I was
Speaker 13: brought up in CT, so I love the Islanders. But
Speaker 13: they built these stone walls and they didn't put the foundations.
Speaker 3: That you're talking about stone walls, yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, so the old volcanic and bluestone walls. They
Speaker 13: didn't put the foundations that they didn't even go down
Speaker 13: the met so a lot of those walls are giving ways.
Speaker 2: So we're just abolished one and take a part.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I know a bit about stone walls.
Speaker 12: Yep.
Speaker 3: So does it even have a stone foundation?
Speaker 13: Well not really, no, doesn't even have to see it.
Speaker 3: So I mean, if you're if you're building a stone
Speaker 3: wall these days, you'd put a cot, you'd build a
Speaker 3: concrete foundation with rebar, and that rebar would go up
Speaker 3: through the wall.
Speaker 13: Right, absolutely, well done, well done, bang on, But you're
Speaker 13: what you want what's called your rises or so the
Speaker 13: steel comes up through the wall.
Speaker 3: So they haven't got it. But if it's dry stone walling,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't you. Didn't you just do an old school
Speaker 3: wouldn't you. That's what these walls are.
Speaker 13: Well, you've got to put steelers, you've got to put
Speaker 13: deep foundations.
Speaker 4: You got.
Speaker 3: Sixty six diyed cycling Tracy. People are watching the surfing
Speaker 3: and saying it's amazing some of those surf shots of
Speaker 3: people surfing. I've got a lot of texts. I'll get
Speaker 3: to those in the next hour. There was a patchy hour,
Speaker 3: but I think it's upward from here. You've seen those
Speaker 3: walls collapse. I wonder what it's about, and I guess
Speaker 3: two stone walls only don't have an infinite life. I
Speaker 3: think probably fifty years. You going alright, of those ones
Speaker 3: in England, I'll think about that lighter rock maybe greetings
Speaker 3: and welcome. Someone says I worked at Albany for ten years.
Speaker 3: It's one of the coldest places in Auckland. Would that
Speaker 3: be right? I reckon Albany has always been quite cold,
Speaker 3: but I've been there.
Speaker 1: I want to be cold.
Speaker 3: Know the answer to that? Marcaus. I see what people
Speaker 3: mean regarding speedway, but this is stock cars where they
Speaker 3: go on from thing laps lasting ages. Proper speedway is
Speaker 3: solo and sidecast with four laps and lasts around sixty
Speaker 3: one seconds. Brilliant family in Gladstone, that's an Australia, not
Speaker 3: Gladstone road. Family in Gladstone have nothing the super at
Speaker 3: shells and are closed for four days from today. They
Speaker 3: are anticipating touchdown of the CyclinD today, so now its
Speaker 3: arrival has been postponed, they are uncertain when supplies will
Speaker 3: be back on the shelves Exel Tino before I am
Speaker 3: Saturday's when it's going to touch down.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'd be doing if I was
Speaker 3: in Brisbane. Looks windy, but if you are there, let
Speaker 3: us know what's happening. It's going to be a long
Speaker 3: build up for this, isn't it. Simon says, my social
Speaker 3: media feed has been inundated with all the epic surfing
Speaker 3: going on on Oz. It looks awesome. Hopefully some of
Speaker 3: the storms swell comes our way. Also talking about fou niculars, Marcus,
Speaker 3: the daist and incline used the waight of the loaded
Speaker 3: coal wagons going down to drag the empty wagons up
Speaker 3: the incline. Wellington has a two line funicular now a
Speaker 3: single track with a central crossing loop. Yeah, it's got
Speaker 3: two loops, has it? I'm hearing you, Marcus. I've been
Speaker 3: on a funicular in Niagara Falls on Canada side to
Speaker 3: get down to the red boats that take you out
Speaker 3: of the waterfall. Regards Darren, Thank you, Darren. Get in
Speaker 3: touch by name's Marcus. If anyone saw seven sharp about
Speaker 3: Western Springs and the speedway. As I say, I've discussed
Speaker 3: this so long on talkback, I've got no idea what
Speaker 3: the issues are. They were going to move it out
Speaker 3: to Puhnui for a long long time. That was going
Speaker 3: to be where it was going to go. I think
Speaker 3: they're now going to Waikaraka Park, which is on the
Speaker 3: Monaco Harbor up between well between Mount Smart and Orni Hunger,
Speaker 3: which is in an industrial zone, sounded by factories in
Speaker 3: a cemetery. So that's a fine place for it to be.
Speaker 3: I think it was a cam for the Americans during
Speaker 3: World War Two. Well they're not coming back. Get in touch,
Speaker 3: Marcus till twelve. Then something else you want to mention, Great,
Speaker 3: it's all happening. If you are in Australia, be really
Speaker 3: good to hear from you there. Also, so significant flooding
Speaker 3: is expected tonight on the Gold Coast. If you want
Speaker 3: to talk about that, tremendous, let's be hearing from you.
Speaker 3: And if you did manage to see seven sharp, I
Speaker 3: just wouldn't mind a bit more of a background or
Speaker 3: about what happens with the situation at Western Springs because
Speaker 3: it's also a business. Promoters put that on, and the
Speaker 3: promoters are under all sorts of pressure. You got to
Speaker 3: pay to hire the venue and the likes of that.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying it's pretty complicated. It's not just
Speaker 3: residents saying we want you out. There's other My understanding
Speaker 3: when I'm my guess as his all sorts of considerations
Speaker 3: go on. Nothing's ever that straightforward. For those that don't
Speaker 3: know Western Springs, I presume it's a volcanic coen. This
Speaker 3: is an Auckland. It's near the zoo and we they've
Speaker 3: had speedway for a long long time. It's also where
Speaker 3: led Zepp played in seventy three, and Bob Marley played,
Speaker 3: and you two played, and some of the great concerts
Speaker 3: and utel history were there. Trust some richie to thinking
Speaker 3: can stick a fornicular up bow and Peak was up
Speaker 3: there recently, would just be ruined by something like that.
Speaker 3: I couldn't find where bow and Peak was. If I'm
Speaker 3: at the lake looking at Ben Lohman, is it to
Speaker 3: the right of that? That wouldn't mind knowing some more
Speaker 3: about that if you can. This is the Phniicula in
Speaker 3: Queen's down there, planning from one mile round about up
Speaker 3: that valley up to fern held In up to the
Speaker 3: top of the peak. They wanted to put some Swiss
Speaker 3: chalets up there. I'm sure people would love to buy those.
Speaker 3: It's going to town. It's get the fornicular. Brilliant, self driven,
Speaker 3: I guess, but getting touched Marcus. Still men, where's my glass?
Speaker 3: There's a couple where's my glass of water? Beautiful? I
Speaker 3: forgot to bring it in with me. That's a worry
Speaker 3: dry as a wooden god. Anyway, Oh, someone to talk to, Andrew,
Speaker 3: it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, A good Andrew.
Speaker 2: I watched the documentary about sci Flight facty a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. And what got then was there about
Speaker 2: a week before there was a there was speak to
Speaker 2: me another side flight. They protected no one was going
Speaker 2: to get that by silent towards them, and then right
Speaker 2: at the very last moment it does this in sort
Speaker 2: of went out to sea. So then on a couple
Speaker 2: of days before Christmas they again they see there's a
Speaker 2: cyclone coming, and the oldies always.
Speaker 3: Whatever, here we go again, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And just carried on. And of course that the flame
Speaker 2: under the Christmas eve at night, and it wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2: Some of the footage that I saw it looked like Hiroshima.
Speaker 2: I never realized that the sack Dad was in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four eyes I was nine, and I remember we
Speaker 2: had a girl cut under our class. They must say
Speaker 2: family or something, because they basically evacuated the whole of
Speaker 2: Darwan that that available, and they were even there's even
Speaker 2: as a bit going on at the time when they're
Speaker 2: actually going to rebuild it because the damage.
Speaker 15: Was that day.
Speaker 2: There was sort of talking we'll just brought over and
Speaker 2: move elsewhere. But I never realized the damage is actually
Speaker 2: sad as the was.
Speaker 3: It said it destroyed eighty percent of the houses and
Speaker 3: left twenty five thousand homeless, so it's a pretty extraordinary event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I say, the foot is the video footage
Speaker 2: has looked like Hiashima. They shared you're a people power
Speaker 2: pole and it's literally been big but about the about
Speaker 2: six foot and it was down on foot path level
Speaker 2: that it just foerus toy of its straight down I know.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Also enter a large of kiwis went across there to workers,
Speaker 3: roofers and things like that. A lot of people went
Speaker 3: to help with the rebuild because I think that's when
Speaker 3: a lot of key we started moving to Australia was for.
Speaker 13: That, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's they showing a product of It's just
Speaker 2: a huge convoy. People just got out of the place
Speaker 2: because you just couldn't stay.
Speaker 3: Where did you see that document? Where did you see
Speaker 3: the documentary Andrew.
Speaker 2: There's a few on YouTube. Okay, I've sort of watched
Speaker 2: one and then I sort of watching another one after that,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's really interesting. I never realized the dam No.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, and I've been to Dalne. I
Speaker 3: had no idea. It was yeah, because I think they
Speaker 3: rebuilt earthquake. Coble had no idea. It was that destructive.
Speaker 2: I think true story, I think I think true story
Speaker 2: has and all the left is the foundations and I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't like to say anything as Brisbane waits for
Speaker 3: their for their tropical cyclone to arrive, but they said,
Speaker 3: according to Wikipedia, the storm is the second smallest tropical
Speaker 3: cyclone on records. It was tiny compared with the others.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it wasn't a big deal, but certainly picks
Speaker 3: a punch.
Speaker 2: They were, of course there in the Survivors and these
Speaker 2: people are talking about the start off in one room
Speaker 2: and then you know they'd work out, but that room
Speaker 2: was disappearing and they'd moved into another room, and then
Speaker 2: that room would disappear and end up with you know,
Speaker 2: you're basically hunted down under a under a car or something,
Speaker 2: just trying to survive.
Speaker 3: Okay, you look nice to hear from you, and I
Speaker 3: appreciate that everyone's got. If anyone experienced cyclone Tracy, that
Speaker 3: would be fantastic, always part of the rebuild. I was
Speaker 3: in Darwin, but it was ninety two, so actually wasn't
Speaker 3: there long after eighteen years afterward. But if you've got
Speaker 3: something to say about that, find that fascinating because of
Speaker 3: a direct hit, because cycling got Darwin got bombed too
Speaker 3: during World War two, Japanese bombed. And then of course
Speaker 3: you've got fantastic city, fantastic place, one of the great
Speaker 3: Aussie towns. Marcus. Have you been to see the movie Tina? No,
Speaker 3: but I've heard a lot of people raving about it,
Speaker 3: so people are loving that. So there we go. That's Tina,
Speaker 3: that's the movie, Marcus. White Crecord Park was the best
Speaker 3: track for stock cars back in the seventies. Only midgets
Speaker 3: and bikes at the Springs. Check out poor Mall stock
Speaker 3: car teams race on YouTube. Go Sam fire Brand cheers, Sue. Yes,
Speaker 3: I've been to White Cracker Park a number of times
Speaker 3: in my childhood. I don't think i've been to Western
Speaker 3: Springs for the speedway. I wish I had. We're talking cyclone, Tracy.
Speaker 3: If you experience that seventy four, I'll be fifty years
Speaker 3: last year, but you might have been part of the rebuild,
Speaker 3: or you might have experienced a cyclone. All up for
Speaker 3: the discussion about that people, My name is Marcus. Welcome
Speaker 3: league Broncos versus the Roosters. It's I think this is
Speaker 3: still called the first round of the nare. Of course
Speaker 3: they had the first two matches at Vegas, which I
Speaker 3: think is a dumb idea. Fancy all those poor Warrior
Speaker 3: supporters paying all that money. You're not going to feel
Speaker 3: good about the team. Ow that that came out half
Speaker 3: cocked crickets the support, that's what you want to get
Speaker 3: into the golden age of cricket, the golden age of
Speaker 3: his inling cricket with those flip right about for Nicolas
Speaker 3: and speedway and cyclone. Tracy, Tracy without an e nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy four Christmas Eve. But yep, Avery said of the
Speaker 3: town was people were homeless. Good evening. Lynnet's Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 14: Good evening, Marcus. How are you?
Speaker 3: Oh good? Thank you Lynn?
Speaker 14: That's good. I heard you talking about the fornicular railways earlier. Yes,
Speaker 14: and I haven't heard anyone mention the one that's at
Speaker 14: the Olympics Stadium in Canada, Montreal, where yeah, where John
Speaker 14: Walker from New Zealand won the fifteen hundred meters in
Speaker 14: nineteen seventy six. Yes, we went there in July twenty eighteen,
Speaker 14: traveled on the Metro underground to the Courtier Olympic and
Speaker 14: the stadium is amazing. It is really a musk for
Speaker 14: people to go on their bucket list.
Speaker 3: Wow. And there is a funicular there.
Speaker 14: Yes, we went to the top of that, which is
Speaker 14: the funicular and it's the world's tallest inclined tower, rising
Speaker 14: one hundred and sixty five meters at a forty five
Speaker 14: degree angle.
Speaker 3: I think Vanessa's been on that because she was in
Speaker 3: Montreal last year.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's amazing. It's at the Montreal it's at the
Speaker 14: stadium where the races were, where the Olympics were.
Speaker 3: And could you tell me a bit about that. I
Speaker 3: don't really know Montreal. Is it because it's up and down?
Speaker 3: Do they need it to get down a hill?
Speaker 14: I don't. I don't really know. I'm just looking at
Speaker 14: something that I posted on my Facebook page back and
Speaker 14: when we went there.
Speaker 9: But it was were you on the Facebook back then.
Speaker 14: In twenty eighteen years Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow, she look at you your early adopter. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to look at it now, okay, you're well.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so look up the Olympic. What's it called? Let
Speaker 14: me see just looking now, it's the Quartier Olympique. Is
Speaker 14: that it's that the stadium where the races where with
Speaker 14: John Walker ran and yeah, it was amazing. We'd never
Speaker 14: been there before.
Speaker 3: Of course, to look at the maps. Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't expec to be hilly like that. But thank you
Speaker 3: then I appreciate that. There we go, Gary, Marcus.
Speaker 16: Welcome, Yes, good evening, Marcus.
Speaker 3: How are you Gary?
Speaker 16: Am okay, good mate. I just want to bring to
Speaker 16: your attention there's a connection between Cyclone Tracy and Western
Speaker 16: Spring Speedway.
Speaker 3: Oh fluck, oh yoh, this is a special okay, yep.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 16: In nineteen seventy two there was a young guy called
Speaker 16: Ted Tracy.
Speaker 6: I remember that well, yes, and he made his way.
Speaker 16: Up there, and when Cyclone Tracy hit in nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 16: he actually got the nickname Cyclone Ted Tracy. True story,
Speaker 16: and he did. He went through the pack of midget
Speaker 16: care racing back then was phenomenabal, you know, and he
Speaker 16: just went them through like a cyclone, real outstanding driver
Speaker 16: along with there's a lot of others, you know, Barry
Speaker 16: Butterworth and I can't remember all of them off from
Speaker 16: Patriots and.
Speaker 17: Garry.
Speaker 3: I can just remember the ads and the Herald and
Speaker 3: the Auckland staff for Speedway. They be massive banner ads
Speaker 3: with all their names, wouldn't it and they you know,
Speaker 3: like the huge letters like they were great stars.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Well, we were getting crowds of up to forty thousand
Speaker 16: people on the big fifty lape knites down there, you know,
Speaker 16: and it's just it's got to stay there. You know,
Speaker 16: we're coming up one hundred years of history at Western
Speaker 16: Springs and to me, it's got to stay.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 16: They should have had a poll tonight on their hit
Speaker 16: their head.
Speaker 7: On the.
Speaker 17: Garry.
Speaker 3: Can I just talk to you about that because I
Speaker 3: didn't see it on seven sharp?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Do the promoters want to stay there or they themselves compromised?
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, you can morally say that it's a bit
Speaker 16: of there's an investigation going on for sure about that
Speaker 16: promotion sort about guys that are in there that I've
Speaker 16: more or less been put in there to hike the
Speaker 16: prices up and sort of you know, get the crowds
Speaker 16: down low in that and chuck it out because.
Speaker 3: Gary, Gary, I'm just going to go to headlines, but
Speaker 3: don't go away, Okay, I'm going to come back to you.
Speaker 3: Is that right? You'll stay there excent some questions to
Speaker 3: ask you. So, Gary, you're a regular You go to
Speaker 3: speedway at Western Springs regularly?
Speaker 18: Is that right?
Speaker 16: Yes, I've been going since sixty four years. I've come
Speaker 16: sixty seven this year. You know, I've written the bike
Speaker 16: down there and I've driven the three quod imdget you know,
Speaker 16: back in the seventies.
Speaker 3: So would it be before we have the discussion, Gary,
Speaker 3: would it be fair to say that the sport is
Speaker 3: not what it once was, that the attendance as well down?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 16: I'd say it is down a bit. That's because they've
Speaker 16: taken away two of the major attractions back then, which
Speaker 16: was speedway bikes solose yeah, and the sidecars motorbike sidecars
Speaker 16: now and plus there's a lot of other little bits
Speaker 16: and pieces too. The track surface doesn't suit the bikes,
Speaker 16: it doesn't suit the sidecast but that could be fixed up.
Speaker 3: You know, if we get what is the surface, Gary,
Speaker 3: it's clay base. Has it always been players it changed?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 16: No, No, it's changed since they did the revamp. I
Speaker 16: think it was nineteen eighty four eighty six. They went
Speaker 16: from a sort of a dirt's and the sort of
Speaker 16: surface into clay because the midget and split car guys
Speaker 16: were complaining about tire where so they change the surface
Speaker 16: to suit them so they wouldn't complain too much about
Speaker 16: burning up tires and that. But it doesn't suit the
Speaker 16: bikes or the sidecars, you know, so that's basically here.
Speaker 16: But it's got to stay, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know how you're saying it's got to stay. Haven't the
Speaker 3: council made a decision to go to work Ereca Park.
Speaker 3: Do you think you can overturn that?
Speaker 16: Well, we're hoping we can.
Speaker 3: Okay, what what do you know? What do you know
Speaker 3: what's required to overturn it?
Speaker 16: I can't go into detail about it, but there's a
Speaker 16: lot of a lot of stuff that's got to come
Speaker 16: through before it's finally over, you know.
Speaker 3: Because I think haven't we been in the situation before
Speaker 3: when they're going to move it to Punui about five
Speaker 3: or ten years ago.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, that was right. Yeah, but that wasn't suited
Speaker 16: because it's too close to the airport and the podcast
Speaker 16: create quite a wind dust, you know that when that
Speaker 16: suited the planes coming in or landing or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, do you hate? Do you not?
Speaker 3: Is Wyk Record Park unsuitable?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 16: No, not for speedway racing? No, no, no, different, different
Speaker 16: sort of than animal. It's like putting regularly League at
Speaker 16: Eden Park. You know, it's not the same atmosphere or nothing.
Speaker 16: So it's got to stay at Western Springs.
Speaker 3: Brilliant, Okay, I hope it does. But yeah, what is
Speaker 3: Ted Tracy still alive?
Speaker 16: Yes, yes he is, as far as I know, he
Speaker 16: is atle of a good driver, yes, playing Ted Tracy.
Speaker 3: But the Americans, the Americans would come over every year,
Speaker 3: weren't there. There was always great tests between the Americans
Speaker 3: and the Keys. It seemed to be that seemed to
Speaker 3: be a big deal, didn't it.
Speaker 8: It still is.
Speaker 16: You know, we still get them down here now, and
Speaker 16: you know they come down here and race at Western
Speaker 16: Springs and they say it's the best track in the
Speaker 16: world with the atmosphere and away it's set up and
Speaker 16: the pits and everything like that and the crowd you know,
Speaker 16: they don't see crowds like that in America for the
Speaker 16: midget co racing closes said get would be the Chili Bowl.
Speaker 3: You know, so I'd like to I'd like to know
Speaker 3: more about the chili bowlers in Los Angeles.
Speaker 16: Now it's an Coulster Okay coaster. Yeah, yeah, they had
Speaker 16: that once a year. It's it's brilliant. Yeah, I'd really
Speaker 16: like to go myself.
Speaker 3: Do you think you might do you think you might
Speaker 3: be able to go?
Speaker 16: I'll have to check with the missus says she can
Speaker 16: work about.
Speaker 3: Garry wonder what he was going to say. Marcus Speedway,
Speaker 3: I think a couple of issues, especially for speedway supporters
Speaker 3: as an institution, almost just like Eden Park, and speedway
Speaker 3: supporters are no less emphatic than rugby supporters. From my
Speaker 3: exper Number two, from my experienced speedway supporters, we're never
Speaker 3: interested in White Grecord Park because it's also the atmosphe
Speaker 3: you're at a different level of racing that Western Springs offers.
Speaker 3: As for the local pushback, they all know it exists
Speaker 3: in their choice of neighbored try movie and parked industrial era.
Speaker 3: Just my two cents worth, Chris Marcus shady agenda at
Speaker 3: the Springs follow the money rumors at Auckland FC are
Speaker 3: going there. Someone says luxe and stays are numbered and
Speaker 3: when he goes, Willis will be gone. Oh yeah, really.
Speaker 3: Vanessa said it was being fixed when she was there
Speaker 3: at the Montreal Fornicula. I don't know if there's going
Speaker 3: to be much served to get to speculation about how
Speaker 3: long the prime minister has got, although I've seen on
Speaker 3: the certainly on the podcasts, that's all they're talking about it.
Speaker 3: The moment who as I saying. I was Matthew Houghton
Speaker 3: talking about it, saying is the worst prime minister for
Speaker 3: in his lifetime, which all that's a big call. I
Speaker 3: think he meant the worst Prime Minister of New Zealand
Speaker 3: in his lifetime. Although people are into that sort of language,
Speaker 3: aren't They all gets a bit sort of hyperb year
Speaker 3: speaking of sports stadiums, and he's there in North Harbor's Jinx.
Speaker 3: It's got to be the worst stadium in the country.
Speaker 3: Western Springs need to stay where it is. Well, I
Speaker 3: think Western Springs is going anywhere, but I think that's
Speaker 3: the crowds can actually see the Springs Are there in
Speaker 3: those ponds?
Speaker 9: Are they?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: Kathy ats Marcus good.
Speaker 19: Evening him and look, I know Western Springs well, and
Speaker 19: I've never been to a speedway there, but you know
Speaker 19: the layout of the land and if we're sing that,
Speaker 19: it's a natural bowl, so it would be fantastic for
Speaker 19: you know, speed carts and things like that. But it's
Speaker 19: ironical that that has been well they're trying to get
Speaker 19: rid of it because of all the houses around it.
Speaker 19: But there's a brand new development that's currently being built
Speaker 19: called the Hills in Remy Era, and it's built around
Speaker 19: the land of the Alexander Racecourse because you know, like
Speaker 19: with the funding of racing these days having gone down,
Speaker 19: they've sold some of the land. Around the outside there's
Speaker 19: a huge pond that will provide the water the water
Speaker 19: the race track and there's really high end. It's a
Speaker 19: little bit like a Hobsonville development with you know, three
Speaker 19: million dollar houses built all around the racecourse and it's
Speaker 19: going to be very functional racecourse. Kathy, which is this
Speaker 19: It's called the Hills in Remy Era. It's on the
Speaker 19: Alexander Racecourse next to a scott hospital.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it won't be the Alexander Racecourse. It will
Speaker 3: be the Elsie Racecourse.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 19: Oh, it couldn't be the elderly side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, I think so. I think yeah.
Speaker 19: I mean it's just it's going to be a working
Speaker 19: race track and they're having events from memory for race
Speaker 19: meetings a month and the houses. There's literally track for horses.
Speaker 19: There's a walkway next to the track that the residents
Speaker 19: can walk around when the races aren't on. Opposite the houses,
Speaker 19: there is the stand.
Speaker 3: Where the stretch to call it Remoera, wouldn't it, Well.
Speaker 19: It's Elleslie, but because it's so close and you probably
Speaker 19: can get more for them if you.
Speaker 3: Can you see the horse? Can you see the racecourse
Speaker 3: from there?
Speaker 19: My sister's looking at buy a place about two years time,
Speaker 19: and literally there's her house. There's going to be her
Speaker 19: house because it isn't being built yet, and then there's
Speaker 19: the walkway and the racetrack, so it's really close to
Speaker 19: the front of her house.
Speaker 3: You can imagine is it Peach Parade or is it
Speaker 3: Ladies Mile?
Speaker 19: A Ladies Mile? It's off when you were a road,
Speaker 19: so it's way yeah yeah, so, but I mean they're
Speaker 19: all high and it's going to be really no because
Speaker 19: you'll have the loudspeaker, you know, giving you the details
Speaker 19: of which horses first and second, et cetera. And I mean,
Speaker 19: I don't know how it will tell, but if you
Speaker 19: can do a development like that where it's going to
Speaker 19: be really noisy, why why is there all this fuss
Speaker 19: about them?
Speaker 3: It's a good point. I understand your point you're making.
Speaker 3: I guess because I guess people. I guess people think
Speaker 3: that the horse racing is slightly more high brow than
Speaker 3: than But is it on is it on the racecourse land?
Speaker 3: Because I know it's very hard with a racecourse, but
Speaker 3: it's hard to find, you know, it's hard to get streams.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 19: My My understanding is that around the outside they've sold
Speaker 19: the land to Fletch just to do the development, and
Speaker 19: with the money they make from that, it will help
Speaker 19: keep the race track and the race club afloat, so
Speaker 19: they can do up all the places where they keep
Speaker 19: pulses and upgrade all the facilities with the money they're
Speaker 19: going to make from the selling of the homes, and
Speaker 19: there's going to be quite a few homes because they're
Speaker 19: all you know, recently tightly damned. And because of lack
Speaker 19: of parking, they're going to have restaurants and things, but
Speaker 19: only the residents can go there because there's no way
Speaker 19: for the members of the public's park.
Speaker 18: I don't want it's going to be a whole village.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make assumptions. But maybe they've maybe
Speaker 3: it's some of the land from the steeplechase course that
Speaker 3: they've taken that land. They still have steeple chases there,
Speaker 3: the jumps because there was that big kind of dog
Speaker 3: leg there. It looks like it's going in the land
Speaker 3: there where they had the steeple chase.
Speaker 19: It's sort of a bank, so you get the grand
Speaker 19: stand view right out across the race track and the
Speaker 19: field at the moment, the actual race track, it's in
Speaker 19: priesting condition, whether they're late new land but grass. But
Speaker 19: it's beautiful. It's not at all. But she wants to
Speaker 19: stay in remiror she wants to have a smaller house
Speaker 19: that's less expensive to run and easy to get to
Speaker 19: everything and all her friends and so forth. And it
Speaker 19: just seemed to be a better option than buying another
Speaker 19: house from Remure that might be expensive to run. And
Speaker 19: let's say you know, because your downsize as your children
Speaker 19: there and that's the stage of life that she's at,
Speaker 19: and she wants to stay in the same sort of
Speaker 19: area because that's what she knows. And I'm in Hobsonville
Speaker 19: and she saw this development and I've been going on
Speaker 19: about you know, modern houses or double glazing and insulation
Speaker 19: and how warm they are. And you know, my water
Speaker 19: bills are a fraction of what they used to be
Speaker 19: because there are a tank under the ground, you know,
Speaker 19: like I go on about modern building, because the houses
Speaker 19: aren't so brasty and cold like lovely and warm was
Speaker 19: even without aches on. So you know, why wouldn't you
Speaker 19: want to live in a house like that as you're
Speaker 19: getting older.
Speaker 16: So I don't know, it.
Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense, Katy. Nice to hear from you. Thank you,
Speaker 3: good evening, Anne, Marie. It's Marcus. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi and Marie.
Speaker 17: Hi Marcus. I'm just bringing our son race Speedway for
Speaker 17: years in the midgets and he is still repairing midgets
Speaker 17: and building sprint cars. And it's an absolute shame because
Speaker 17: it was a fabulous place for families to go, which
Speaker 17: we took our children. Darrell was I don't know ten
Speaker 17: what he race ended up racing a very better worse
Speaker 17: people will know and it's a shame now it was
Speaker 17: a fabulous place for family families.
Speaker 3: Yes, so what does he what does he think is
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 11: The track?
Speaker 17: Does not look after properly? I think okay, and yeah,
Speaker 17: I don't want to go on about it.
Speaker 3: But you have helping people, you kind of have run
Speaker 3: to go on about it. I'm just kidding. So are
Speaker 3: the promoters not prepared to pay the money for it
Speaker 3: because the track's not worthwhile? I wonder if that's what
Speaker 3: it's about.
Speaker 17: You have to ask him. I know that there's not
Speaker 17: right and we have gone there for years and he
Speaker 17: is still like a told you building, helping people in
Speaker 17: the South Island with a print car and and it's
Speaker 17: just a shame.
Speaker 3: Do you still go where to Western Springs?
Speaker 17: No, it hasn't hardly been on okay, and it's no,
Speaker 17: it's not worth us going down to Auckland. We're not
Speaker 17: an atand now, but we spend our whole lot. My
Speaker 17: husband he was a pusher on midget cars and before
Speaker 17: our son was you know, before I met, before I
Speaker 17: married my husband. But I just wanted people to know
Speaker 17: how wonderful it was for families.
Speaker 3: Nice to hear from you, an Marie, appreciate that. Ten
Speaker 3: away from ten someone's texted to said about Sleepy Trip
Speaker 3: was one of the great names of the midget drivers.
Speaker 3: That's very very famous, Sleepy Trip. He'll be down all
Speaker 3: the time. Great names, Sleepy Trip. Nathan Marcus, welcome, Hey Marcus.
Speaker 6: How are you good?
Speaker 3: Nathan?
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Just heard Kathy talking about the old just caught there's
Speaker 6: sort of ends of the conversation about Kathy talking about
Speaker 6: the Allieslie Hill side of things, and I wish you
Speaker 6: the disruption with moving in there and having races on
Speaker 6: and so on and so forth. So I guess a
Speaker 6: couple of things with that. From what I understand is
Speaker 6: that the hill, the money they've made from that, they're
Speaker 6: investing back into racing, which is why the stakes you'll
Speaker 6: find it earnestly in the meetings these days are much
Speaker 6: more higher to encourage more people into the industry and
Speaker 6: those sorts of things. Fundamentally, you'll hear a few things
Speaker 6: over on that side of the hill, But for the
Speaker 6: amount of races that they had there throughout the winter
Speaker 6: season and the new track that they've put in, which
Speaker 6: isn't going to allow it to have jumps races, and
Speaker 6: guess because the track isn't going to be heavy like
Speaker 6: traditionally would have been in the past, it was much
Speaker 6: better use of that land to invest back into their industry.
Speaker 6: As for the like the speedway side of things, that
Speaker 6: typical sort of thing. People buy houses in that area
Speaker 6: knowing that the speedway's been there for donkeys years, as
Speaker 6: is the zoo over by Western Springs, and yet people
Speaker 6: saw them complain about it after they're by the house.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Not seeing this. I'm not seeing this driven by the
Speaker 3: residents though I see it's more between council and the promoters.
Speaker 3: That's my take.
Speaker 6: Look from I guess from a council perspective, I mean
Speaker 6: most councils these days are are screaming out for money
Speaker 6: and cash and when you've got too essentially a white
Speaker 6: iraka an only hunger and in the Western Springs, in
Speaker 6: the Western Springs, why don't mean it makes sense to
Speaker 6: consolidate and have one good track that they can alternate
Speaker 6: weekends and racing, which is only hungers in an industrial area,
Speaker 6: so there's less issues with people complaining about noise and
Speaker 6: down and those things, so it actually makes sense to
Speaker 6: consolidate that, put some money into Wye Cracker, get it
Speaker 6: to a position where it's got good grand sensor in
Speaker 6: good facilities, and then use Western Springs for something else
Speaker 6: would make more See.
Speaker 3: Are you on the council, Nathan, do you work for there?
Speaker 3: Are you with the racing board or something?
Speaker 6: No, not at all, but I have I guess through
Speaker 6: my personal side of things. I have race sources of
Speaker 6: shoes and racehorses, so I'm familiar with what goes on,
Speaker 6: and I get emails about what's happening at Alsley.
Speaker 3: I just had it. Just I had a text that
Speaker 3: someone said Aucan Racing Club and Ti Rapra looking for
Speaker 3: trinid acres to purchase to move horse racing to the
Speaker 3: Northern White Cutter, taking it out of all can this
Speaker 3: racing guaranteed still in Auckland or they trying.
Speaker 9: To move it out a lot.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen or heard anything about that at this
Speaker 6: point in time, but I mean, I guess it's like anything.
Speaker 6: It's consolidation of areas and industries because the issue in
Speaker 6: New Zealand is that we have like that you can
Speaker 6: get a trainer's license and you can train five horses.
Speaker 6: Whereas the economics of that when you're spread out in
Speaker 6: a really geriafical nature that New Zealand is, and spread
Speaker 6: over the countryside, it doesn't warrant having lots of small
Speaker 6: trainers spread about. We're better off having some key main centers,
Speaker 6: I guess, with these purpose built facilities for them to
Speaker 6: come and train, and like you see in Australia and
Speaker 6: overseas where they have boxes set up with owners have
Speaker 6: them and there's place trainers have them, there's places to
Speaker 6: spell the horses all in one location. It's more economic
Speaker 6: sense to do that than have all these tiny little
Speaker 6: racetracks which a huge amount of land that only get
Speaker 6: used once or twice a year. Okaysolidation of the industry,
Speaker 6: I guess you could say.
Speaker 3: So racing's not leaving Yellows anytime soon.
Speaker 6: Well not with the amount of money they've just invested
Speaker 6: into this new track. And so the new track they've
Speaker 6: put and has costed them a pretty penny of course,
Speaker 6: and it's designed to be an all way of the
Speaker 6: surface so that they can get a delue to rain.
Speaker 6: They've got the biggest race day coming up this Saturday.
Speaker 6: That new Zealand's ever seen that?
Speaker 3: What does that mean? You pay for your slot? What's
Speaker 3: that about?
Speaker 6: Look, it's something that started out of Australia, I guess
Speaker 6: is in a race called the Everest and then they
Speaker 6: decided to do a similar thing over here to attract
Speaker 6: international horses to New Zealand. There's been a big injection
Speaker 6: with money and stuff into the industry with how.
Speaker 2: Much being involved?
Speaker 3: How much do you pay to start?
Speaker 6: Look that? So it's not like a normal horse race.
Speaker 6: So an individual or a stable could buy a slot
Speaker 6: and I think they range anywhere from seven or eight
Speaker 6: hundred thousand per slot, and then they can find a
Speaker 6: horse to run in it. So I could have bought
Speaker 6: a slot and then I could go to an owner
Speaker 6: or a trainer and say, I like your horse, I
Speaker 6: want to use it in my slot for this race,
Speaker 6: and then you negotiate between you and the trainer what
Speaker 6: each person's cut would be out of the out of
Speaker 6: the purse.
Speaker 3: But okay, I'd like to talk more about that. I'm
Speaker 3: just one use, Nathan, but I have enjoyed some of
Speaker 3: your expertise, Marty Marcus.
Speaker 16: Welcome you, Marcus.
Speaker 18: I've got a roundabout update for you're the latest roundabout news.
Speaker 18: The eagle has landed. At about midnight on Tuesday night,
Speaker 18: they put in the fifteen meter hawk.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is at the roundabout, Tino. What's it called?
Speaker 18: What's the roundabout called the Priory roundabout?
Speaker 3: How's that spelled?
Speaker 2: P I A R E R E.
Speaker 18: I'm probably not pronouncing it right.
Speaker 3: At least you gave it a go and you spelled it.
Speaker 16: Right, yepot.
Speaker 18: Anyway, it's a big hawk. But it's super interesting because
Speaker 18: the family who's fence got smashed into most he went
Speaker 18: on seven sharp and complained about it about six years ago.
Speaker 18: Guess what their last name is?
Speaker 3: Hawk?
Speaker 13: Ye, the hawks?
Speaker 3: Why would you put a hawk? What is with these
Speaker 3: animals and roundabouts?
Speaker 18: It's to pay homage to the Hawk family?
Speaker 3: Is it really?
Speaker 18: I don't know. I'd say it will be a local
Speaker 18: Maori consultation that's gone to figure out what it is.
Speaker 18: Because in Hamilton and Cambridge you've got eels and you've
Speaker 18: got other things.
Speaker 3: With the roundabout. Because we've done shows on roundabouts roundabout
Speaker 3: sympathetic people want to hide visibility. They don't want a
Speaker 3: hawk because I think they've just put they've done something
Speaker 3: with that Dan and the motorway extension up through Wilsford,
Speaker 3: haven't they what's gone up there?
Speaker 18: Totem Pole.
Speaker 3: No, No, you're swimming.
Speaker 18: I'm going to sparkle overlooking the roundabout, I can see
Speaker 18: the cars going around it.
Speaker 3: If you moved house, I've moved to it.
Speaker 18: From from one farmhouse to another farmhouse. And this one
Speaker 18: looking it up with the hawk. Yeah, the previous one
Speaker 18: was just looking over sheep paddocks, have you.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's another one. There's a a giant eagle is
Speaker 3: on the roundabout and the new motorway, the who are
Speaker 3: to walk with motorway they've got an eagle there. That's
Speaker 3: why I was asking about that.
Speaker 18: Okay, I'll course one a hawk then, because of the
Speaker 18: Hawk family.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 18: And also the other thing they've announced that doing the
Speaker 18: big Carrapiro extension. So once this, once this Hawk roundabouts
Speaker 18: finished down here, that I'll start getting into that. The
Speaker 18: the Carrapiro to piriy Fau Lane holiday one hundred and
Speaker 18: ten k highway.
Speaker 3: Is that just the main motorway they're widening.
Speaker 18: Yes, but I think they can take it through the
Speaker 18: hill and make it straight and fast Becau it's a
Speaker 18: bit windy. It is a bit scary the old one.
Speaker 3: How will I get a picture? So the Hawk got
Speaker 3: helicopter to day.
Speaker 18: Did it on Tuesday night. I got They have to
Speaker 18: think of the biggest higher crane you can imagine. You
Speaker 18: need two of those loftless thing. It's all steel, will
Speaker 18: be like five mill plate. You know if that's a
Speaker 18: rusty steel, it's already rusty's.
Speaker 3: Look they're going for that way.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's like industrial Maori Hawk.
Speaker 3: Where can I see an image of it?
Speaker 18: I'd say people haven't been taking that when you it's
Speaker 18: pretty fresh and and they're still like concrete it and stuff.
Speaker 18: It's not quite finished yet, but there should be people
Speaker 18: just putting it on Facebook because they'd go around on
Speaker 18: their phones and looking at where they're driving.
Speaker 3: So tell me about your If you sold your house.
Speaker 18: No, no, we've we've had we've moved from one house
Speaker 18: to another because my in laws have left the farm
Speaker 18: that have taken over a different house, and my manager
Speaker 18: is going to move into our old house. And fortunately
Speaker 18: he didn't want to take his sparkle into matter matters.
Speaker 18: I've inherited this spar pool which overlooks the Hawk.
Speaker 3: You're pretty braggy about your sparkle like ringing from it
Speaker 3: and then loudly splashing. It's not like you to walk
Speaker 3: with things, and I thought you'd be more humble.
Speaker 18: No, well I like that what I'm doing when I'm
Speaker 18: calling you usually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what do you want to say about? What
Speaker 3: do you want to say? In New Zealand?
Speaker 18: But the old guy's leaving and I heard him the news. Yeah,
Speaker 18: they really need to focus on a bit of domestic
Speaker 18: domestic stuff. Hopefully the new guy will focus on some
Speaker 18: domestic travel rather than just focusing on international brilliant.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, any other thoughts you get us to touch?
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts with the sparkle? Matey, Nice to hear
Speaker 3: from your fourteen past ten? What how's your heathen?
Speaker 20: Is it.
Speaker 11: Market?
Speaker 2: What there you're going, Marcus?
Speaker 12: I was just singing about the Western Springs or mix
Speaker 12: a psyca speedway rider?
Speaker 3: Are you the swinger?
Speaker 12: No, I'm a writer.
Speaker 3: Oh go yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 12: Yep, and of race, I've done it for a lot
Speaker 12: of years and hear what's happening at Western Springs is
Speaker 12: quite a travesty.
Speaker 3: So you guys they said the surface has changed its clay.
Speaker 3: Other speedway riders happy with the clay.
Speaker 12: Oh mate, we wrote on any surface too?
Speaker 2: Do you.
Speaker 12: You should come down and have it go sometimes?
Speaker 3: Marcus, have you been to the speedway? And in v Cargo.
Speaker 12: No, I've only done the North Oland.
Speaker 3: He starts beginning on the South. I mean they do
Speaker 3: have it down here too. That's the last time I
Speaker 3: wish you should give a man. I was asked, but
Speaker 3: it's not really my thing. But anyway, what's your understanding
Speaker 3: of what's happened?
Speaker 12: I know there's a lot of controversy going down at
Speaker 12: the moment. Can I can I give a plug to
Speaker 12: a site trying to stage the weekend Spring Speedway. It's
Speaker 12: called SABL Speedway. I think it's Sable Speedway dot co
Speaker 12: dot inz Okay is it will be a shame to see.
Speaker 3: On Do you stay with the same swinger or do
Speaker 3: you go through them?
Speaker 12: Well, I've had a couple of my tom I've done
Speaker 12: it for a lot of like I've done it for
Speaker 12: about twenty odd years yep, And yeah I've had a
Speaker 12: few in my time. Actually I haven't done it for
Speaker 12: ten years, but I'm I'm getting back into it again
Speaker 12: in a better weeks time.
Speaker 3: So is the speed Wow is the speedway still at
Speaker 3: Western Springs.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but they don't have the bikes even more unfortunately.
Speaker 3: So where are the where are the bikes now?
Speaker 12: Are more an Orkan Rosebink Road. Rod Evandale was, Yeah,
Speaker 12: that's our home track.
Speaker 3: That doesn't look much. That always looks a bit sort
Speaker 3: of amateur.
Speaker 12: Oh, come and here we go and see how I
Speaker 12: ammture it is?
Speaker 11: What's been up and not?
Speaker 3: What's your website called save our Springs?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 12: Did you say save our Speedway?
Speaker 3: Okay, save our Speedway? Is it a Facebook page or
Speaker 3: that's a website.
Speaker 12: It's a website brilliant for the serious flod office is
Speaker 12: actually involved in it now because there's been a lot
Speaker 12: of untowards stuff going on.
Speaker 3: Okay is that fact or is it speculation?
Speaker 9: No, that's fact.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll look into that, Hayden, thank you. Yeah, she's
Speaker 3: a story. I can even get to the bottom to
Speaker 3: have a look at that website. That might explain something.
Speaker 3: But yeah, as long as I've been in this show,
Speaker 3: people have gone on and on about that, about the
Speaker 3: speedway and why it's moving from Eden from Western Springs.
Speaker 3: We're Auckland first got its. Actually it's not I think
Speaker 3: Auckland when it was first got its water from the
Speaker 3: ponds at the domain. Then they got its sweat water
Speaker 3: from Western Springs. Six four Brisbane. Paul Marcus. Welcome, Hey
Speaker 3: Marcus here, you're going good. Thank you, Paul.
Speaker 21: Hey, look on Speedway and I don't know a lot
Speaker 21: and I'm glad I'm out of the loop. But there's
Speaker 21: a lot of blokes that I hang out with, and
Speaker 21: I've been the speedway since I was sixteen, but pretty.
Speaker 11: Much in the know.
Speaker 21: The one thing I've called you about is that a
Speaker 21: lot of media have turned their back and don't actually
Speaker 21: want to bring this to before even those seven sharps
Speaker 21: tonight and I didn't see it. But what I'm hearing
Speaker 21: from a lot of commentary that it's a done deal.
Speaker 21: Let's move on, forget about it. It's ninety five years.
Speaker 21: To the best of my knowledge, the Western Springs and
Speaker 21: the zoo was gifted to the council a long time ago.
Speaker 21: As long as the zoo in Western Springs stayed there.
Speaker 21: That's what I understand.
Speaker 3: That that doesn't sound right, that doesn't pass that, No, no.
Speaker 21: I'm hearing you, but there's something there. So what I
Speaker 21: think very accurate what you said before the promoters and
Speaker 21: that there's a whole lot of muddy borders. What I'd
Speaker 21: ask you to do is just hold your interest on it,
Speaker 21: even though I know that you've had a gaps ful
Speaker 21: of it because you've been talking about.
Speaker 3: Maybe Paul, I want to be really clear with you.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is passionate. I like people are passionate
Speaker 3: about stuff. I haven't had a gutsful of it. I've
Speaker 3: just said, the discussions on gone on for a long view,
Speaker 3: for a long time, and I've never found this. I've
Speaker 3: never found the discussion that clear cut. There's always sort
Speaker 3: of other things that you don't hear about.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's so.
Speaker 3: It's it's not like someone can bring me up and say, Marcus,
Speaker 3: these are the four things. This is the reason. But
Speaker 3: seems to me it's a council owned venue and they've
Speaker 3: decided to go, so it's out of their hands. I mean,
Speaker 3: councils can do that with their venues, can't they.
Speaker 21: Yeah, as I understand they can. But there's something really
Speaker 21: strange about this. There's something that is underlying that people
Speaker 21: know about and that's why they've engaged council and obviously
Speaker 21: are taking it further. I just believe that there's a lot,
Speaker 21: there's a lot of stuff that's been taken away from Auckland.
Speaker 21: And I know you might see that as a bit odd,
Speaker 21: but we've had so many changes the city doesn't even.
Speaker 11: Look the same.
Speaker 3: What do you think has been taken away?
Speaker 21: I think I think the attraction of Auckland has been
Speaker 21: able to get around for a start, and you can't
Speaker 21: do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, But there aren't events that have been taken away.
Speaker 3: It seems though there's got more events. You've got Auckland.
Speaker 3: If so, you've got football, you've got other stuff you've
Speaker 3: got you know.
Speaker 21: Okay exactly, But Marcus at Speedway and if you go
Speaker 21: and have a look, it's not run every week, it's
Speaker 21: like twice a month. So they've been cut right back.
Speaker 21: But they get eight to ten thousand people that the
Speaker 21: Blues might get six thousand people. And that's Eden Park.
Speaker 21: That's a big operation. And do we need another soccer
Speaker 21: stadium when we've got a stadium sitting there in North
Speaker 21: Harbor that no one uses all the.
Speaker 3: Sense there's also the sense that it's the working class
Speaker 3: sport and they've been put I mean, so I imagine
Speaker 3: amongst that it's easy for them to whip up conspiracies
Speaker 3: and say they're out to get us because we're not
Speaker 3: the Hoy twenties and stuff like that.
Speaker 21: So here and you yeah, but also the promoter has
Speaker 21: interests and other other race venues, and and they're stock cars,
Speaker 21: they're not speedway. Speedway is completely different. And eleven million dollars.
Speaker 21: If the council are going to give you eleven million
Speaker 21: dollars and you run White Iracor Park.
Speaker 3: It's confusing all the different sorts of there's speedway, there's midgets,
Speaker 3: there's what's the other one?
Speaker 21: Because they're different cars. Yeah, they're different, they're different to watch,
Speaker 21: they go faster and I go to White I recker.
Speaker 3: But the two is why Ereka stock cars? It always
Speaker 3: used to be what's it?
Speaker 11: Now it's it's with stock cars.
Speaker 21: And then they want to take sprint cars and midgets
Speaker 21: to Western Springs and my understanding is that teams and
Speaker 21: drivers won't go there.
Speaker 3: What what what's the surface at work Erecord Park.
Speaker 21: I don't say it's not the same surface. I know
Speaker 21: that it's clay based, but it's mixed. But they're heavier
Speaker 21: cars as stock cars.
Speaker 3: But how many do they get how many do they
Speaker 3: get there?
Speaker 8: Pull?
Speaker 2: Not that many?
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 21: So here's the other point. So even with the upgrades
Speaker 21: at what iraker, you're going to get a maximum And
Speaker 21: my understanding once again is five to six thousand people,
Speaker 21: you're not So they're not going to be able to hold.
Speaker 21: Even if they had a big event for sprint cars
Speaker 21: and midgets at White Corecker, you're not going to get
Speaker 21: those people there. They won't fit.
Speaker 3: So Paul, I like the way you communicate. I like
Speaker 3: your yeah, the energy you're coming with it at is
Speaker 3: it not a done deal?
Speaker 21: And my understanding as far from it.
Speaker 3: Okay, because the other thing I said I had, thank you, pardon.
Speaker 21: I said, I love you. Keep your ear to the ground.
Speaker 21: You're a great journalist because I'll tell you what if
Speaker 21: it's if Western Springs goes and even though we mightn't
Speaker 21: go there every week or every month, that's that's a shame.
Speaker 21: It's got so much history.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll keep talking about hopefully we'll get we'll get
Speaker 3: to the full sense of what's going on. Because yeah,
Speaker 3: when I was on this show doing it might be
Speaker 3: eight years ago. They're going to move to Puanui, there
Speaker 3: was that guy that promotes Aaron. It was all a
Speaker 3: done deal. But yeah, and we're too busy now to
Speaker 3: follow all the news stories to read exactly what's going on.
Speaker 3: And the media is not covering stories as much as
Speaker 3: they did because they're strung out, so you haven't got
Speaker 3: the so it's quite complicated to find out the whole story.
Speaker 3: I wish i'd seen the seven sharp story about it.
Speaker 3: If anyone could actually give me a bit of a
Speaker 3: sum up of that, that would be of interest. One
Speaker 3: of the one of my favorite shows I've done on
Speaker 3: this session right in the last ten years or nine
Speaker 3: years or whatever, was talking about Speedway and christ Church
Speaker 3: in the fifties and sixties where the local tracks everyone
Speaker 3: would walk to, and that I thought, Gee, that was
Speaker 3: the stories and just the subway basis of that was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of why we like Australia because we've
Speaker 3: got their sports of local venues and I think it
Speaker 3: is important to eden parks like that you can just
Speaker 3: walk to that good evening. Graham, it's Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 9: Your Hi Marcus, enjoying your show about the Speedway. Your
Speaker 9: last caller was correct with Western Springs being given to
Speaker 9: the council pretty much the Motion family gave back to
Speaker 9: the council. The last time that deed was seen, I
Speaker 9: think from memory, was when Willie Kay was a promoter
Speaker 9: at Western Springs and there was a deed which basically
Speaker 9: read something along the lines of as long as the
Speaker 9: speedway track is a speedway track, it belonged to the
Speaker 9: council to run, and then if it's ever closed down,
Speaker 9: then that would no longer be viable. So that is
Speaker 9: all true and correct. Now they offered him seventeen million
Speaker 9: dollars to go to White Cracker Park, but all the
Speaker 9: grandstands at White Cracker Park are all buggered. They all
Speaker 9: need to be replaced, and also a toilet block and
Speaker 9: all that sort of stuff, and all that funding that
Speaker 9: they're going to give them has got to build all
Speaker 9: these new bits and pieces. So you're probably going to
Speaker 9: be out of money there anyway. There's another thing also,
Speaker 9: the difference in the track serves is way different. Like
Speaker 9: the guys said before, the cars are heavier, all that
Speaker 9: sort of carry on.
Speaker 3: And basically, did you see the seven Sharp story tonight?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 3: What was the what was the guts of.
Speaker 13: That well.
Speaker 9: Pretty much. I think it's just showing you how popular
Speaker 9: Western Springs actually is and how big a crowd they
Speaker 9: can get.
Speaker 3: Okay, is there is there a Is there a sentiment
Speaker 3: from locals they want it gone? I haven't heard that.
Speaker 3: But have they been petitioning to get.
Speaker 18: Rid of it?
Speaker 9: Well, when Bill Buckley was a promoter, Yes, they basically
Speaker 9: got it down to about one or two people complain
Speaker 9: They've got the noise level right down to your your
Speaker 9: deathbell readings, which is where it needs to be at
Speaker 9: ninety four deathbels. I think it is. So basically they're
Speaker 9: all compliant with what it is.
Speaker 3: Bill Buckley was a bit of a legiend, right, he
Speaker 3: was a successful businessman. He also read as have I
Speaker 3: got that one right?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Well now he runs our ones he run.
Speaker 3: Didn't know that, okay, thank you.
Speaker 9: So basically Bill Buckley used to race sidecars here years ago,
Speaker 9: and his sons used to race speedway and his I
Speaker 9: think his nephew, Travis Buckley races midgets and sprint cars
Speaker 9: and stuff like that as well. So there's a lot
Speaker 9: of history there. In the old days, they used to
Speaker 9: run around twenty meetings a season and then as the
Speaker 9: council got more and more control with all you carry on,
Speaker 9: with noise and all this sort of carry on. They
Speaker 9: basically whittled it right the way down till you get
Speaker 9: to like ten race meetings a season if you're lucky.
Speaker 9: And it's very interesting how the councils say that was speedway.
Speaker 9: It's costing them money. It's cost them not there's a
Speaker 9: million and a half or any of that the speedway
Speaker 9: to be there. It's interest and they can say how
Speaker 9: much speedway costs to be there, but they've never mentioned
Speaker 9: how much it costs for when rugby there as in
Speaker 9: light Pompy Rugby Club at Western Springs Speedways. That's their
Speaker 9: home ground now. They don't say any losses about that.
Speaker 3: Is the sports still healthy? Is it grassroots? Are the
Speaker 3: young people involved in Auckland? Is it still a lively
Speaker 3: and with drivers or riders as well?
Speaker 9: Well, Hey, you at the end of the day, pretty
Speaker 9: much most of your competitors there are raplayers, don't they Yeah, But.
Speaker 3: They come from all today. They don't come from further
Speaker 3: Afield to race. They're mainly locals that are racing.
Speaker 9: There's there's a lot of locals. There's a lot of
Speaker 9: people come from all over the country and race like
Speaker 9: yeah Shane ben Disbury, everybody knows that he is. Yes,
Speaker 9: well he flies back here at Christmas time and he
Speaker 9: raises a sprint guard. Now, like you know, you've got
Speaker 9: people like him and going there. He actually started there
Speaker 9: back in the day in the little Kiwi kids things,
Speaker 9: Sames like Michael Pattins and all these sorts of people.
Speaker 3: The council voted to move it. Is it now going
Speaker 3: to litigation to stop that?
Speaker 9: Well it really should be, because it's very underhanded what's
Speaker 9: happened there. I don't think there's really been any consultation
Speaker 9: with your competitors as such as like the council. From
Speaker 9: what I understand is you've got you Auckland soccer teams. Okay,
Speaker 9: they train over the North Shore, but they don't play
Speaker 9: any games there. But the billionaire guy who owns a team,
Speaker 9: he's expressed interest in Western Springs. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: as soon as he's express interest, well speedway's got to go.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 9: That's that's pretty much how it's rolled. And Wayne Brown
Speaker 9: used to support speedway, was what he said. He was
Speaker 9: going to support the Speedway group and all that's got
Speaker 9: to carry on. Now he's done a U turn on
Speaker 9: that and he wants it done as well. So I
Speaker 9: think the council of their own agenda, is it a
Speaker 9: bad thing.
Speaker 3: If a new sport goes there? Is this a bad
Speaker 3: thing of football? Suddenly? Even football? May do they put
Speaker 3: that there?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 3: I guess it is for you? I mean things change,
Speaker 3: don't they put?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 9: How I see it is? Okay? It'd be like hypothetically
Speaker 9: you turn around and say that we want eating parks
Speaker 9: for something else, so awesome Blues can bugger off out
Speaker 9: of there, and why aren't you move in with the
Speaker 9: Warriors and just use this their stadium because it's more convenient.
Speaker 9: And you guys just figure out how you're going to
Speaker 9: run the rugby and the NRL out of the same park.
Speaker 9: That's exactly what you're doing to Western Springs along with
Speaker 9: White Iraka Park.
Speaker 3: But I guess the councilors has pressure to get the
Speaker 3: most rent they can for their facilities, right if they've
Speaker 3: got Because does it does it feel like the AWKFC
Speaker 3: are going to go there? Is that what you've heard?
Speaker 9: Well, that's that's what some of the talkers around the place.
Speaker 9: It's really confusing exactly what's going to go.
Speaker 3: There, Okay, I agree, wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 9: Like if you look at the land mass you've got
Speaker 9: there at Western Spring's okay, if you can kick the
Speaker 9: people out of there from speedways. They did say they
Speaker 9: want to use it for cricket at one stage and
Speaker 9: that's sort of gone by the wayside now they're talking
Speaker 9: about using of a soccer. Well, if you can get
Speaker 9: rid of the people out of there for the motorsport
Speaker 9: and or any sport for example, look at the car
Speaker 9: parking space there a city landfill for some housing and
Speaker 9: stuff like that. Yeah, you know, I think there is
Speaker 9: a hell of a lot more to the agenda with
Speaker 9: the council than they are actually telling. You know, like
Speaker 9: speedway's been there for a hell of a long time.
Speaker 9: It's got a lot of history. You've had a lot
Speaker 9: of famous people come through the place, you know, over
Speaker 9: the years, so you know, there's a hell of a
Speaker 9: lot of history. It's sort of like telling you all
Speaker 9: blacks to pack your bags and bugger off somewhere else,
Speaker 9: and you know it, we'll just put you somewhere else
Speaker 9: in the country, all black ors you you know, whatever.
Speaker 3: What's your what's you're involved in, Graham, Not that I
Speaker 3: think you're underhanded, but are you a driver or just
Speaker 3: to reget a punter or just someone that's interested.
Speaker 9: Well, I grew up in Kingsland and I've been in
Speaker 9: a certain way since I was about probably five years
Speaker 9: of age, yep. So I've been going there for years.
Speaker 9: Back in the day when you had either major and
Speaker 9: all those sort of poppies in and riders you come
Speaker 9: over and race solo bikes and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 9: So I've been interested in speedway. I've helped guys with
Speaker 9: your race cars, whether it's ridgets or sprint cars or whatever.
Speaker 9: I've worked on them for years. So you still go,
Speaker 9: then I still go. It's horrendous at the moment it's
Speaker 9: gone up to like fifty dollars to get.
Speaker 2: In the gate.
Speaker 3: Fifty dollars.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And the promoter that you got there and the other
Speaker 9: call has seed before. Yes, he's got other interests as well.
Speaker 9: So the guy who's your promoter has got the speedway
Speaker 9: down at partisan North, he's also got Wiker Record Park,
Speaker 9: and he's also got Western Springs, and that's why he's
Speaker 9: just sort of just falling over, you know, I'm saying
Speaker 9: that Western Springs can go and we're just taking the
Speaker 9: Whiker record party.
Speaker 3: What's to stop What's to stop another promoter coming in
Speaker 3: and doing their own story. How come he has the
Speaker 3: rights to be the provider just because it's a business
Speaker 3: when he's put the package together, is that right?
Speaker 9: Well, basically I think he out did Buckley because Buckley
Speaker 9: was still interested.
Speaker 6: In doing it.
Speaker 3: And okay, okay, so two other guys taken over. It's
Speaker 3: a business.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, at the end of the day, you have
Speaker 9: to run it as a business at the end of
Speaker 9: the day. But like the other caller said about how
Speaker 9: many times you can have a meeting at Western Springs,
Speaker 9: well you get all odd ball day. So it's really
Speaker 9: hard for Speedway to get a decent flow on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm betlieve it even Thank you, grab story
Speaker 3: to cut you short. Oh it's Marcus.
Speaker 20: Welcome, good evening, Marcus. I'm just calling in support of
Speaker 20: Western Springs Speedway saying where it is. To give some context,
Speaker 20: I was born and raised in Western Springs. We used
Speaker 20: to go to Speedway. We used to go to fireworks
Speaker 20: displays there once a year, and we also used to
Speaker 20: go to there when occasionally they had the military tattoo there,
Speaker 20: which was marvelous. And as a local, the speedway was
Speaker 20: never an issue. You know, it stops ten o'clock at night,
Speaker 20: just a noise that you used to do and we're
Speaker 20: really did never a problem with it. The concerts that
Speaker 20: they held at Western Springs was a lot more anti
Speaker 20: social in their ha everywhere, and I've under broken glass
Speaker 20: and occasional broken let of box in that. But there's
Speaker 20: a lot of tradition there now I can understand. And
Speaker 20: moving the guy just slays away because the star shows
Speaker 20: came off currently made that giraffe fault one time and
Speaker 20: ran into a fence and heard or killed himself and that,
Speaker 20: and you know, we don't want that the season important
Speaker 20: play that's in that general area too. But I think
Speaker 20: that people are moving to the area and complain about
Speaker 20: the noise, should really move next to a motorway or
Speaker 20: an airport and complain about that instead.
Speaker 3: Oh and I haven't noticed that it's been about the
Speaker 3: resids complaining. It seems to be about counsel about the promoter.
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be about the resins to me.
Speaker 20: Yeah, No, that's that's a fair. That's a fair point.
Speaker 3: I think that's just my understanding. I think last time
Speaker 3: it was more so. But they seem it's been a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But we we.
Speaker 20: Loved it and it was very much a fan very
Speaker 20: much a family thing. And I don't think you'll have
Speaker 20: the same atmosphere white or what to be honest, I
Speaker 20: think white Crackers and more of a sort of a
Speaker 20: heavy But it's plenty of fun you can have there too,
Speaker 20: but and you also have the track surface is different
Speaker 20: for different kinds of vehicles and the Orkan spere Ware
Speaker 20: Roders Club is out at Rosebank Park because the track
Speaker 20: at Western Springs was always very sticky track and it's
Speaker 20: not really suited to bite which neither really good surface
Speaker 20: for sliding. Yes, but I just think it'll be a
Speaker 20: real shame receiveto almost one hundred years it's been.
Speaker 3: There, sort of white Cracker Park. It's sort of it's
Speaker 3: sort of a no means land a.
Speaker 20: Yeah, and you know, who knows it could workout, but.
Speaker 3: God for saken, I had to drop my car off
Speaker 3: there because I've got it, put my car on a
Speaker 3: train to move it in Voicago, had to go to
Speaker 3: where the rail depot was he had to walk right
Speaker 3: along that road to the get to the airport. And gee,
Speaker 3: she's a she's a pretty brutal stretch of a light
Speaker 3: industrial area, that one. I mean, it's pretty it's she's
Speaker 3: pretty full on. It's not like or anything, is it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's real industrial, that's right.
Speaker 20: But any noise you make near the water there, it
Speaker 20: travels right across because the White Cracker is right just
Speaker 20: to the edge of the money Cow.
Speaker 2: And well, I haven't lived over.
Speaker 20: The other side to hear the noise. I hear noise
Speaker 20: go across water and other settings. And occasionally if the
Speaker 20: wind's flowing from either White Iraka, which is an unusual
Speaker 20: and it's not prevailing them, but from why Corraca, I
Speaker 20: love further west, but from White Iraka or from even
Speaker 20: if there's something a big event at Mount Smart, well
Speaker 20: we'll hear it. So I don't imagine see where it's
Speaker 20: going to add anything to it, any noise to what
Speaker 20: the stock cars.
Speaker 3: Kind of, Yeah, I don't really understand stock cars. I
Speaker 3: used to go but blood when I I don't really
Speaker 3: understand what goes on there.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not knowledgeable in that area. Either
Speaker 20: I'm a personally I'm a bike man. But we used
Speaker 20: to enjoy the midgist and the supermodifiers and that they
Speaker 20: sing some of the great race there very batter, worse
Speaker 20: than Ted Tracy. And then there was Sleepy Trup. Sleepy
Speaker 20: do you remember Sleepy Trup?
Speaker 3: Yes, free much, very much.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 20: Well, he was also a very good flat track motorcycle
Speaker 20: racer and he come out and raced its brows. Big
Speaker 20: park promotors didn't like him using his name there because
Speaker 20: you stayed to bring more away out here. So he
Speaker 20: would race under the name Dario Rester, which is the
Speaker 20: name of a motorcycle the car racer from years ago,
Speaker 20: and he was he was a very very good rider.
Speaker 20: The only guy who could keep with him was Kai Nemi,
Speaker 20: who was the the Danish b World champions.
Speaker 3: I remember, probably five or ten years ago. What's that
Speaker 3: guy's name that used to run Berry. That's a silicon
Speaker 3: chips and magnets that ran Western Springs. What was the
Speaker 3: promoter's name?
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, yeah, the name will come back to me
Speaker 20: in a second.
Speaker 9: Talking remember his.
Speaker 20: First company was I've come back anyway. I know who
Speaker 20: you mean. Years he's got been into his business once.
Speaker 3: Bill Bill Buckley, right, Billy, So about ten years ago
Speaker 3: he had the World Speedway Champs there with people from
Speaker 3: around the world, different countries. Do you remember that.
Speaker 20: No, I wasn't. I wasn't following it at that point,
Speaker 20: but it rings a.
Speaker 3: Bell because internationally, I mean, we're not in that, We're
Speaker 3: not We're not up there anymore. And it always seemed
Speaker 3: to be the Eastern European riders. But boy, that was
Speaker 3: worth watching. There was a phenomenal event. Just trying to
Speaker 3: think about speedway or all these motive buggets, it's sort
Speaker 3: of the success of it is already about the promoter,
Speaker 3: is that there's good of promoters that build up sports
Speaker 3: and they I think all sports tend to ebb and
Speaker 3: flow a bit. And I'm thinking about soccer and Auckland
Speaker 3: because I know a lot about soccer or football in Auckland.
Speaker 3: And I've talked to you about this before, because football
Speaker 3: in the seventies in Auckland was huge because they had
Speaker 3: a venue called New Market Park, which must have run
Speaker 3: for about I know when it ran from mid sixties
Speaker 3: to the early eighties till it slid down. The valley
Speaker 3: was off Air Street in Auckland, and that was huge
Speaker 3: venue for football, and then a lot of English football
Speaker 3: teams came across and played and there was a tremendous
Speaker 3: New Zealand club competition and football was huge mainly because
Speaker 3: of their venue. It was such a fantastic venue with
Speaker 3: an auckland. Then it slid down the bank with an
Speaker 3: old land for Old Tip. Then they moved football to
Speaker 3: Mount Smart. Well, it's not the same because there was
Speaker 3: the racetrack. There was a running track there THENU that
Speaker 3: was between you and the audience and it felt wrong.
Speaker 3: And now of course football's come back after probably a
Speaker 3: thirty year Hi artist with a football kings with here
Speaker 3: a little bit. But yeah, so some sports come and
Speaker 3: then they go, they come back again. I don't know
Speaker 3: what this has got to do with speedway, but I
Speaker 3: kind of feel that it's no sport by right, it's
Speaker 3: going to be around forever. That's not how I take
Speaker 3: it anyway. But then we always come back to the
Speaker 3: example of rugby, which has always been an even part.
Speaker 3: But yeah, probably not for much longer. I mean, you
Speaker 3: look at all the financials from rugby, with TV rights
Speaker 3: and everything like that, it doesn't seem to be a
Speaker 3: sport that's going to be guaranteed, because when you look
Speaker 3: at the players salaries and you look at number of
Speaker 3: people turning up and the it just doesn't seem sustainable
Speaker 3: to me. But I wouldn't say that there Rugby and
Speaker 3: Eden Park in twenty years. I think it would be
Speaker 3: highly likely that it wouldn't be there. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think probably there are some injustices with Speedway or with
Speaker 3: Western Springs, but also I suspect probably there's a little
Speaker 3: bit of paranoia there as well. But we'll keep going
Speaker 3: talking about it. Good evening, Jamie, Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 7: Heyware you go Marcus.
Speaker 3: Good Jamie.
Speaker 7: Well, there's not been much going on back home. My
Speaker 7: mates have been sending me photos of this morning blue
Speaker 7: sky and then yeah, I've had a birthday party with
Speaker 7: the neighbors for the six year answers a birthday American Shimmon.
Speaker 7: So I've been pretty h normal up in Disland, but
Speaker 7: I've been wet. I'm just south from Sydney and it's
Speaker 7: been raining all the way down all day, which is
Speaker 7: pretty uncommon. So yeah, I thought that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Where have you driven down south from to get to Sydney?
Speaker 3: Where were you overnight?
Speaker 12: Hi?
Speaker 2: I was round the.
Speaker 7: Tough Tavor this morning, okay, and then I'm just I've
Speaker 7: been just driving all the way down past me today.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's been pretty much on and off rain
Speaker 7: all days from hivy, some not so hevy, but yeah,
Speaker 7: it's been been an interesting days, very like driving on
Speaker 7: a public holiday. Right even north of Sydney, there wasn't
Speaker 7: many people on their own. It's been yeah, sort of
Speaker 7: really sort of funny sort of a day really.
Speaker 3: And I wonder what people's attitude will because whether it's
Speaker 3: will it be delayed, I guess some people will extrapolate
Speaker 3: that and think it's not going to each whether it's
Speaker 3: not going to be bad, but it still looks like
Speaker 3: it could pack of punch. That's my take. What's yours?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think they're you know, start on like Facebook pages
Speaker 7: on on and the local ones on home. They're starting
Speaker 7: to get a bit complacent.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, yeah, has your wife got enough
Speaker 3: food till till Sunday?
Speaker 7: Yes, you're be a right. She went back to the
Speaker 7: Sigmatic today. I thought I could closed yesterday, but she
Speaker 7: said they closed today at five kims. So she went
Speaker 7: back there today and got a whole lot of party for.
Speaker 2: The young fellow.
Speaker 7: She had the neighbors around. They seemed to be having
Speaker 7: a good time.
Speaker 3: So there's plenty of stuff. There was plenty of stuff
Speaker 3: in the supermarkets.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's got enough year. She thinks, right, okay, and
Speaker 7: I should get home. I'll put my finger out. I'll
Speaker 7: get home tomorrow night. It might not be home Saturday morning.
Speaker 3: So that should be with When are you arriving Saturday morning?
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably Saturday morning time, probably about nine am.
Speaker 3: Americon, it's supposed to arrive full board at four am.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'll probably be right on the list of it.
Speaker 7: That'll be interesting.
Speaker 3: You take care, Jamie. Nice to hear from you. Hello,
Speaker 3: Shirleyett to Marcus, good evening.
Speaker 10: I've just want to talk about speedway because my son
Speaker 10: he actually built midgets and he's been building them for years,
Speaker 10: and we used to go watch speedway right back in
Speaker 10: the days. And he started racing when he's eighteen, and
Speaker 10: then he grew up to build midget's like now, and
Speaker 10: he used to travel up there all the time. And
Speaker 10: now he's got two boys and they started racing the
Speaker 10: last three years. And his name's Mike Robbins who does
Speaker 10: the building, And yeah, he just loves it. And we
Speaker 10: used to go and watch them go right up to
Speaker 10: Auckland all the time. We used to take friends, since
Speaker 10: a great interest for young ones.
Speaker 3: And we we'reabouts were you living, Shirley.
Speaker 10: We're living in the Plymouth. Then we're living in the
Speaker 10: Bell Block in your Plymouth.
Speaker 3: And did you Plymouth have a course?
Speaker 10: No, they didn't have much of a course.
Speaker 5: He but.
Speaker 10: Now well he goes to Keyhi too. Who's been to
Speaker 10: Keyhi a lot? And also Bay Park and now he
Speaker 10: starts going down to wan Minui and Palmerston.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, you'd be driving up and down a lot
Speaker 3: if you were going to Western Springs all the time.
Speaker 12: Oh, I know.
Speaker 10: And we used to take Pregny Lunt to go friends
Speaker 10: and you know, stay up there in the night and
Speaker 10: come back. And the Kendall's then used to race Mike
Speaker 10: Kendall and I'm Fabeesh. And we used to watch Sleepee
Speaker 10: Tripp as well, all those and they loved it.
Speaker 15: And the first problem was.
Speaker 10: Now was Western Springs. He used to say that the
Speaker 10: house that people moaned, you know about the noise. Yes,
Speaker 10: but they're all finished by ten o'clock. You know, it's
Speaker 10: not like all nice and there was a great family thing.
Speaker 10: It used to keep the kids off the streets and everything,
Speaker 10: and even still now while he's building and my two sons,
Speaker 10: so they've got three or four other boys there, you know,
Speaker 10: and often stay the night. They just love it and
Speaker 10: he will take who he can with them as well.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything about people complaining about on this show.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything about the Rezards. It seems to
Speaker 3: be mainly about the council. I didn't realize there was
Speaker 3: a speedway trek in Ki. Do they get many people there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 15: Yeah, they get a good crowd there, a really good crowd.
Speaker 3: Well I suppose it's quite close to Hamilton.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 15: Yeah it is, yeah, because a lot of the racing
Speaker 15: men Bill Carsey too, so it's yeah, yees.
Speaker 3: So there's tracks of Fan and Luis k Bay Park
Speaker 3: and well Western Springs up till.
Speaker 10: Now Yeah, and Palmerston's.
Speaker 3: It's a good sport.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And he went down to and on the weekend and
Speaker 10: one of his voice got a food and a riper
Speaker 10: charge or something and he got trophy. Yeah, he's only
Speaker 10: twenty two, really is it fairly safe. Oh, it's really safe.
Speaker 10: It's the best safe sport because you've got all the
Speaker 10: got bars, like the piping protects you. You've got to
Speaker 10: have the piping higher than your head.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 10: And they wear a helmet too, and they have all that.
Speaker 16: They have to wear.
Speaker 10: A suit under their suit so that doesn't catch fire.
Speaker 10: You know, the only thing is that it catches fire,
Speaker 10: you know, So you've got your suit underneath that's fireproof.
Speaker 10: And it's a really Yeah, it's really safe. It's very
Speaker 10: really any way and gets really hurt.
Speaker 3: Do you don't worry about them?
Speaker 10: I mean, he's spun his car in the air, and
Speaker 10: I've seen them trip over and over seven times. One
Speaker 10: person who come from America and they spun seven times
Speaker 10: on a year and they never and they walk away.
Speaker 3: Okay, nice to hear from me, Marcus. I was looking
Speaker 3: at Mount Gambia, South Austraia when Cyclone Tracy struck. We
Speaker 3: didn't really know what we didn't really know for a
Speaker 3: while as news ZN was instant, not instant like now
Speaker 3: and was Christmas. Then on the fifth of January, you
Speaker 3: remember the Tasman Bridge disaster happened just after you will
Speaker 3: like this fact record at the time for most people
Speaker 3: on a seven seven four seven Quantus evacuating after cyclone Tracy,
Speaker 3: six hundred and seventy four people. Wow, that is fascinating.
Speaker 3: One of theo's footage of that six hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to unpick from that email. One is
Speaker 3: the record on A seven four seven. I'm like to
Speaker 3: see a shot of that. And the other two was
Speaker 3: the Tasman Bridge disaster. I think a ship had it.
Speaker 3: I think that's the situation. Although that's what happens with
Speaker 3: bridge disasters, doesn't it. I didn't realize it was so
Speaker 3: clo in time to cyclone Tracy. Yes, the fifth of
Speaker 3: January nineteen seventy five, so the week after in Hobart,
Speaker 3: the bulk carrier Lake Elawara, going up the deer went,
Speaker 3: collided with several pylons of the Tesburn Bridge and caused
Speaker 3: a large section of the bridge to collapse. Twelve people
Speaker 3: were killed, including seven crew on the Lake Elahwara and
Speaker 3: the five occupants of four cars which fell forty five meters.
Speaker 3: The ship's mast was officially penalized for an attention and
Speaker 3: faded to handle his vessel in a seaman like manner,
Speaker 3: kind of on the on the cusp of my memory.
Speaker 3: But some of you will remember it. Wow, But I
Speaker 3: didn't know that about the record number of the seventh
Speaker 3: for seven. Were they standing? It's pretty amazing trying to
Speaker 3: get everyone out. I'll see if ie find an image
Speaker 3: of that. But do get in touch. You want to
Speaker 3: talk on air Marcus till midnight and all the texts
Speaker 3: are coming through now, so that's good that do some
Speaker 3: maintenance on the text. I don't even know what that
Speaker 3: would mean. Yeah, Queen's Quantus bowing seven four seven helps
Speaker 3: evacuate Darwin. That's pretty amazing. I'm just going to say
Speaker 3: ione finds some images of that, because that's something I
Speaker 3: never known about. That is a fact I'd like, I did,
Speaker 3: like I do like. Overall, Quantus evacuated four nine and
Speaker 3: twenty five residents from Darwin in a mix of the
Speaker 3: Boeing seven seven and seven for seven aircraft. The airlift
Speaker 3: operation remains the largest in Australian history. It's pretty amazing
Speaker 3: story that I didn't know about that airlift. I just
Speaker 3: thought people would have driven out, like I said, lost
Speaker 3: their cars, would they? I guess that's a situation at
Speaker 3: the time. Quantits pilot Dinah Howe, we flew the first
Speaker 3: Jumble to Darwin for the Mercy Mission record how much
Speaker 3: of the city's power had been wiped out and when
Speaker 3: he arrived in the aircraft it felt like the one
Speaker 3: ray lights were all that were left working in the city.
Speaker 3: Good story, Good evening, niel As Marcus. Welcome, Hi Marcus.
Speaker 4: Just how'd you talking about the after the sai quon
Speaker 4: s and Christmas in eighteen seventy four about the Jumble? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had the most people on it. Yes, about forty
Speaker 4: odd years ago. But no, but forty years ago I
Speaker 4: was living in Darwin and my girlfriend at the time
Speaker 4: obviously my ex girlfriend. He was on that plane as
Speaker 4: a child. He was one of the ones blown out.
Speaker 15: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the stripped everything and I think they stripped
Speaker 4: the seats, so they stripped all the weight off that completely,
Speaker 4: and you know, they just had the normal they strip
Speaker 4: to seat, certain things that they put. I remember they
Speaker 4: was just sitting on the floor, that's the way she
Speaker 4: Linda told me.
Speaker 3: I wonder how they would have done I wonder how
Speaker 3: they would have done that. They has done that quite quickly.
Speaker 3: I guess they were limited flights because of Christmas schedule.
Speaker 3: They got a flight just took all the seats out landly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose it can take them out quite easy.
Speaker 4: Count they can just get the guys on boats.
Speaker 2: In the boat.
Speaker 3: Because it would give them a lot more white too.
Speaker 3: They get more people. And from a white point of view,
Speaker 3: way did they the whay did they go?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I oh, what did you say it went? I think
Speaker 4: a night have been down to Sydney and one of
Speaker 4: the southern.
Speaker 3: Actually did they end up going back to down or
Speaker 3: they leave for good?
Speaker 4: No, they went back to Darwin. When I lived there,
Speaker 4: he parents were there.
Speaker 2: Another thing.
Speaker 4: In fact, father who was a lovely guy called Ross Fers.
Speaker 4: He was an engineer at the Darwin airport. It was
Speaker 4: handset and on the planes. And he told me that
Speaker 4: there was six ties was it sixty six people died?
Speaker 4: And I don't know how true. I'm only going by
Speaker 4: what he said. He said there was more than that.
Speaker 4: And he said because he stayed behind. You know, all
Speaker 4: the men were a lot of the men were asked
Speaker 4: to stay behind to help you know, security lutors things.
Speaker 4: And he reckons that there was quite a few taking out,
Speaker 4: quite a few luthers taken out. I don't know how
Speaker 4: true that is when he's working nonsense at Mark, but
Speaker 4: he reckons there was a few luthers killed as well,
Speaker 4: a few what looters and things like that. That's yeah,
Speaker 4: but I don't know how to I can't verify that,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I'm just gonna know what he
Speaker 4: told me. He said, no, there was a few luters
Speaker 4: taken out as well.
Speaker 3: Did you spend that, Neil, Did you spend a long
Speaker 3: time in Darwin?
Speaker 16: Not really.
Speaker 4: I was on there there for a couple of years.
Speaker 9: It was a couple of years up there.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty special place. It's a pretty special place,
Speaker 3: isn't it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's an amazing place, and especially your in the eighties,
Speaker 4: and as you know, you can still see old gun emplacements,
Speaker 4: you know, for when the attacking Darwin, and you know,
Speaker 4: when you went down to the port and things like that,
Speaker 4: and you see these gun emplacements there from from the
Speaker 4: war and things like that. And she was I mean,
Speaker 4: I've seen videos of it nowadays and it seems a
Speaker 4: lot more sophisticated place than it was then. But it
Speaker 4: was a rugged she was a rugged place in those days,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it wasn't that sophisticated then,
Speaker 4: you know, since it was rough and ready, and you know,
Speaker 4: even my girlfriend Linda, I mean it was it was amazing,
Speaker 4: like we get it something wrong with the car and
Speaker 4: you just got underneath a bonnet and start fixing the territory.
Speaker 16: Girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, get out the road.
Speaker 4: He's useless, you know, sort of like blah blah blah that.
Speaker 4: And then you didn't want to mess with her because
Speaker 4: you know it could flatten a few men.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It was just just the racers brought up I think.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the clock. I mean the time I was there,
Speaker 3: the clout was amazing. It always felt like it was
Speaker 3: part of aisy with the beach markets and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: because it felt very tropical, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the very to be very humid in the
Speaker 4: wet season though you said, you know, monstery, humidy human.
Speaker 4: You know there's that you needed an air condition I
Speaker 4: mean that was another problem Linda and I had. We
Speaker 4: had a two bedroom flat and she didn't want air
Speaker 4: conditioning act and I was just like, you're going to
Speaker 4: kill me. And we had the air condition in each
Speaker 4: room and in the other room and sleep in the
Speaker 4: other room. She didn't want sn't want to know. They said, no, no,
Speaker 4: that's that's my fairies. That's why you know, weak people.
Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like a hard shot.
Speaker 9: Just pretty good looking girl, which was rough as he and.
Speaker 4: Anyway, argument started in the bar speaking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of drinking climate. You spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time with the pub there. I would imagine it's
Speaker 3: got that sort of climate to it.
Speaker 4: Definitely definitely spend some time in the in the pub there,
Speaker 4: and and I know you haven't got much time. I
Speaker 4: could tell you a study and a few characters I
Speaker 4: met up there. There was certainly some characters, you know,
Speaker 4: they had run up from the Southern States.
Speaker 2: They got away, I think.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's an everyone's got got out
Speaker 3: there to get away from child support and stuff. So
Speaker 3: there's everyone reinventing themselves and all sorts of stuff and
Speaker 3: those sorts of towns.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was some other They will tell you the
Speaker 4: story I got. I got a very good friend and
Speaker 4: he introduced me Bob Hawk and Bob Hawks. Bob Hawk's
Speaker 4: numb me.
Speaker 3: Sorry, what what I just mistake what did you say.
Speaker 4: I had a very good friend, a guy called Terry Fletcher.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Terry.
Speaker 4: He uh. We used to talk politics all the time
Speaker 4: with top politics, top politics, drink top politics. And he
Speaker 4: phoned me up one time he says, you want to
Speaker 4: go to a labor party dinner. I said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: why not? And he said, well, Bob Hawk's gonna be there,
Speaker 4: And so I went along and Bob Hawks, I said,
Speaker 4: you had a big black eye from a ticket, that
Speaker 4: sort of thing. Anyway, he comes off the stage and
Speaker 4: he sees Terry and he goes.
Speaker 9: Terry an Fletcher.
Speaker 16: I don't believe it.
Speaker 4: In the two my cuddling and numbers and I didn't
Speaker 4: know any new and would you call it so Terry,
Speaker 4: and he said, this is Neil came introduce, introduced me
Speaker 4: to him, and he looked up, looked me up and
Speaker 4: down and gave me the biggest work for his handshake
Speaker 4: over and then turned his back on Oh yeah, too
Speaker 4: much of a pro for the Labor prime minister and
Speaker 4: yeah yeah so and later but Terry was gambling. Shoot
Speaker 4: started gambling huge. It was a start of accountant and
Speaker 4: he started gambling huge amounts of money in the casino
Speaker 4: where I worked, and the manager said to me one
Speaker 4: day at this time, I was at one point I
Speaker 4: was hearing the house on it is this Terry Fletcher.
Speaker 4: Turn your house, you turn your flat. And I said,
Speaker 4: I said, well you better watch because he's spending a
Speaker 4: lot of money here. So just in case, you know,
Speaker 4: he's gudy. So I went, I left that job, went
Speaker 4: down to Adelaide casino, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: someone came in one night and I said, he know it.
Speaker 4: Terry Fletcher said, what, there's a cias in nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 4: the CIA, So the same CIA, a special police in
Speaker 4: the industry or whatever you know, deal with fraud and
Speaker 4: all that. She walked in and arrested him in the
Speaker 4: casino and his company was there. He's embezzled a bit
Speaker 4: four he is embezzled about four million dollars from them. Wow,
Speaker 4: And I went, what, oh my god. So anyway, I
Speaker 4: went away to I haven't a way to would you
Speaker 4: call it South Africa. I spent a year over there.
Speaker 4: Came back and I'm standing on a table and time
Speaker 4: I was talking to the bill and I says, you're
Speaker 4: a minute. I was back to Adelie, and I said,
Speaker 4: you know, you remind me of a guy called Terry Fletcher.
Speaker 4: And I don't know why I said it. Five minutes later,
Speaker 4: who's standing beside me. Terry Flexer went, I don't believe that.
Speaker 4: So he says, Oh, come on, Jerry, let's go for
Speaker 4: a drinks. Coming Jimmy, you know, let's go for a drink.
Speaker 4: So we went on a bender for about three days.
Speaker 4: They stayed in my house. I took him back to
Speaker 4: the airport and then I go home and then he
Speaker 4: phones met and he says, and we never talked to
Speaker 4: I never mentioned the fact that I knew you'd been jail.
Speaker 4: He never mentioned the fact that his in jail. It's
Speaker 4: like one of those things you both know it, you know,
Speaker 4: and and would you call it? So I says, I
Speaker 4: need to come back to the airport, and I says, why, sister,
Speaker 4: just come back, just get a tax. Said, we'll have
Speaker 4: a drink, and I want to ask you. I want
Speaker 4: to ask you something that's just strange. So we go
Speaker 4: back to the airport and have a drink. I says,
Speaker 4: what is it you want? He says, can you give
Speaker 4: me your astral passport? He said, what it says, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've got houses up and a mountain parole. He says,
Speaker 4: but I've got houses up in Israel somewhere up that
Speaker 4: I've bought, so absolutely must have put the earnings from
Speaker 4: the theft. And I said really, and he says, I
Speaker 4: can't leave the country. He said, but you give me
Speaker 4: your passport. I'll take your photograph and put mine in
Speaker 4: and he says, and I said, I can't do that,
Speaker 4: and he says, oh no. He says, wait, I got
Speaker 4: on the plane, and then you go and tell the police.
Speaker 4: I stole it, I said, talking and he said no.
Speaker 4: He says, good, tell me. And then and then if
Speaker 4: he got that desk, he says, I'll give you twenty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. This is nineteen ninety one or something, you know.
Speaker 4: I said, you're joking, and not ninety one year, but
Speaker 4: ninety one. Yeah, And I said no, I mean it
Speaker 4: was a lot. It was quite a bit of money
Speaker 4: at that time. But I said no, no, the police
Speaker 4: will see you right through that, and they'll see right
Speaker 4: through it. And he says, no, I won't. I'm really dumb,
Speaker 4: you know. The police are not that bright. And I
Speaker 4: only do and I said, no, no, Terry. Sorry, sorry smorning,
Speaker 4: I said, I'm really sorry to let you down, but
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. And he jumped on the plane.
Speaker 4: That was the last ever Sam again, but that was
Speaker 4: half me.
Speaker 3: You heard what happened to him.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard since that day. Now, I don't know
Speaker 4: since that day he jumped on the plane. He jumped
Speaker 4: on a plane in Melbourne. So I don't know how
Speaker 4: he got out of the country because he said that
Speaker 4: was he couldn't get out because he wasn't allowed to
Speaker 4: passport because he was in paroles. And last I saw him,
Speaker 4: he jumped on a plane in Melbourne and that was that.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened from then on.
Speaker 2: What was his name?
Speaker 3: Neil Terry?
Speaker 14: Who?
Speaker 4: Erry Flexera, Erry Fletcher. The Motrow story is that that
Speaker 4: was a politician's friend.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Well, it sounds like it
Speaker 3: sounds like he had a gambling problem.
Speaker 4: He did have a big gambling problem. Yeah, a big
Speaker 4: gambling problem. His wife left him for another man and
Speaker 4: he never got over it. He never got over it,
Speaker 4: and you know, it just it just turned really weird.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden they started him bazling
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 3: Did you did you meet him first at the case.
Speaker 3: Is that where you made him when you were at
Speaker 3: the casino?
Speaker 4: No, I met him when I first arrived in Darwin,
Speaker 4: and I stayed in these like a keep motel thing,
Speaker 4: you know, I had a swimming pool and all that,
Speaker 4: and he had been he had been he was doing
Speaker 4: accounting work for them or something like.
Speaker 9: He used to save at the bar.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, we started to get into the week
Speaker 4: general and of course we're both left wing labor supporters,
Speaker 4: so we started to have something in common. And of
Speaker 4: course they used to sit there talking, you know, talking
Speaker 4: about the revolution and things like that's what we're going
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: He sunds, like, what it sounds like a good character.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, I'm just what I mean.
Speaker 17: He was.
Speaker 4: He was a good seventy eight years old and me
Speaker 4: so it must be about seventy seventies. He was seventy three. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I wonder if he's still alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll find out us to talk. Neil enjoyed that muchly.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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