1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide ranger of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,853 --> 00:00:20,293 Speaker 2: Hey, Hello, are you great New Zealanders? And welcome to 4 00:00:21,293 --> 00:00:23,973 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Full Show Podcast number two seven six yep. 5 00:00:24,412 --> 00:00:27,373 Speaker 2: For the twenty eighth of January and the Year of 6 00:00:27,412 --> 00:00:30,813 Speaker 2: our Lord, twenty twenty six. I believe that's the year 7 00:00:31,333 --> 00:00:33,253 Speaker 2: for once Tyler. We got through all our topics. 8 00:00:33,293 --> 00:00:36,813 Speaker 3: We certainly did some great chat about Judith Collin, she 9 00:00:36,933 --> 00:00:40,933 Speaker 3: is of course retiring, and then some spicy chat about 10 00:00:40,973 --> 00:00:43,413 Speaker 3: athlete mountdowns. And I'll tell you what takes the cake. 11 00:00:43,412 --> 00:00:45,533 Speaker 3: Actually a lot of slug chat, A lot of slug chat. 12 00:00:45,772 --> 00:00:49,453 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Is the presence of a slug in your 13 00:00:49,533 --> 00:00:57,493 Speaker 2: bathroom a signifier of hardship? Or is it a signifier 14 00:00:57,533 --> 00:00:58,773 Speaker 2: of leaving the window open? Yep? 15 00:00:59,093 --> 00:01:02,293 Speaker 3: Wait for that. You'll learn a lot. Great show, all right? 16 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:04,973 Speaker 3: Then al right, download, subscribe and give us a review. 17 00:01:04,693 --> 00:01:06,333 Speaker 2: And give the taste kV SYMPUSY will leave you go. 18 00:01:06,373 --> 00:01:08,933 Speaker 2: All right? Then have you big. 19 00:01:08,733 --> 00:01:13,613 Speaker 4: Stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything in between. 20 00:01:14,013 --> 00:01:17,733 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talk said. 21 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:20,452 Speaker 2: The sad day to you. How you doing. Welcome into 22 00:01:20,572 --> 00:01:21,733 Speaker 2: Wednesday show. 23 00:01:21,853 --> 00:01:24,413 Speaker 3: Really good to have you with us as always, Get 24 00:01:24,453 --> 00:01:25,372 Speaker 3: a Matt's, get a. 25 00:01:25,413 --> 00:01:28,892 Speaker 2: Tyler, get everyone, Thanks so much for tuning in. Now. 26 00:01:28,932 --> 00:01:31,413 Speaker 3: Just before we get to the show, a bit of 27 00:01:31,453 --> 00:01:34,693 Speaker 3: a question to you Matt's and also to our dear listeners. 28 00:01:34,853 --> 00:01:35,932 Speaker 2: So I've got some. 29 00:01:35,932 --> 00:01:39,372 Speaker 3: Dear friends wedding on this weekend down in christ Jurche 30 00:01:39,693 --> 00:01:42,093 Speaker 3: and sometime ago they asked what I do them the 31 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:44,293 Speaker 3: honor of being the MC for the wedding, And of course, 32 00:01:44,333 --> 00:01:47,613 Speaker 3: initially at the time, I said, absolutely fantastic, what an honor. 33 00:01:47,893 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing to do. Of course I will 34 00:01:49,973 --> 00:01:51,853 Speaker 3: be the MC to your wedding, and I am still 35 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:53,933 Speaker 3: very excited about it. But the closer that I'm getting, 36 00:01:54,373 --> 00:01:57,893 Speaker 3: the more I'm actually starting to get pretty nervous about 37 00:01:57,893 --> 00:01:58,613 Speaker 3: this whole gig. 38 00:01:58,973 --> 00:02:02,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should be nervous, thank you. You know, you're 39 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:04,213 Speaker 2: in a position to completely ruin the wedding. Yeah, and 40 00:02:04,253 --> 00:02:07,373 Speaker 2: it's all on video as well, so it's it exists forever. 41 00:02:07,453 --> 00:02:08,853 Speaker 2: It's high stakes, high stake. 42 00:02:08,893 --> 00:02:11,933 Speaker 3: So initially I thought, do I add in you know, 43 00:02:12,013 --> 00:02:16,133 Speaker 3: a couple of PG but humorous related stories about the 44 00:02:16,133 --> 00:02:19,373 Speaker 3: couple in question. Do I have a couple of funny 45 00:02:19,373 --> 00:02:22,413 Speaker 3: one liners or do I just keep it straight professional? 46 00:02:22,532 --> 00:02:25,732 Speaker 3: Down the line, my role is to keep things moving smoothly, 47 00:02:25,893 --> 00:02:28,653 Speaker 3: keep the energy up, don't try and be too funny 48 00:02:28,693 --> 00:02:30,133 Speaker 3: or cringe, just keep it professional. 49 00:02:30,293 --> 00:02:33,013 Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, that second one is the coward's approach. 50 00:02:33,773 --> 00:02:35,973 Speaker 2: I think you do have to do your best attempts 51 00:02:35,972 --> 00:02:38,452 Speaker 2: at humor. Okay, keep it PG, don't go too far, 52 00:02:38,532 --> 00:02:42,573 Speaker 2: but Nana's there, et cetera. The key to m seeing 53 00:02:42,653 --> 00:02:43,972 Speaker 2: is a person that's done a lot of this over 54 00:02:44,013 --> 00:02:46,453 Speaker 2: the time, over the years. Yep. A lot of public 55 00:02:46,453 --> 00:02:48,013 Speaker 2: speaking you have is you just need to know the 56 00:02:48,053 --> 00:02:50,533 Speaker 2: rundown more than anyone else. Okay, you just make sure, 57 00:02:50,532 --> 00:02:53,613 Speaker 2: as the MC, you know the order of absolutely everything, 58 00:02:53,693 --> 00:02:57,493 Speaker 2: so when things go wrong, you intrinsically know that it's 59 00:02:57,493 --> 00:03:00,333 Speaker 2: gone wrong so you can fix the situation. It's your 60 00:03:00,413 --> 00:03:03,453 Speaker 2: job to facilitate the evening. It's not about you, Tyler. No, 61 00:03:03,493 --> 00:03:05,693 Speaker 2: it's not about you making it the Tyler Adams show. 62 00:03:05,933 --> 00:03:09,093 Speaker 2: It is about the bride and the groom. Everything coming 63 00:03:09,133 --> 00:03:13,053 Speaker 2: back to them and their parents, and that's the focus. 64 00:03:13,252 --> 00:03:16,053 Speaker 2: You make it great for them. Any jokes should be 65 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:18,813 Speaker 2: the kind of jokes to get a smile across, a 66 00:03:18,893 --> 00:03:20,293 Speaker 2: heartwarming smile across. 67 00:03:20,013 --> 00:03:22,253 Speaker 3: The gentle giggle, and then direct it back to the 68 00:03:22,252 --> 00:03:23,973 Speaker 3: couple in questions their day. 69 00:03:23,893 --> 00:03:25,532 Speaker 2: Yeah, short and sharp. 70 00:03:25,653 --> 00:03:28,733 Speaker 3: Keep them entertained, keep it moving, keep it moving, you 71 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:29,653 Speaker 3: know what's going on. 72 00:03:29,972 --> 00:03:33,693 Speaker 2: You're in charge, yep. And look to take back my 73 00:03:34,333 --> 00:03:37,493 Speaker 2: previous comments that you should be nervous. You're talking on 74 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 2: the radio to a lot more people than be at 75 00:03:38,933 --> 00:03:41,613 Speaker 2: this wedding right now. Yeah, you should be nervous about this. 76 00:03:42,253 --> 00:03:44,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean that's the reason they see would 77 00:03:44,333 --> 00:03:46,173 Speaker 3: you be the MC, because apparently you've got a job 78 00:03:46,213 --> 00:03:48,933 Speaker 3: where you talk all the day, And that is true. 79 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:51,053 Speaker 2: I don't talk very well all the day, clearly. 80 00:03:51,653 --> 00:03:54,133 Speaker 3: But you know, when you step up in front of 81 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:55,933 Speaker 3: people and you can see the whites of their eyes, 82 00:03:56,173 --> 00:03:58,013 Speaker 3: I just think there's something a little bit more terrifying 83 00:03:58,053 --> 00:03:58,293 Speaker 3: by that. 84 00:03:58,893 --> 00:04:01,133 Speaker 2: You steer into the whites of my eyes for four 85 00:04:01,213 --> 00:04:04,053 Speaker 2: hours every day, and it's terrifying. It's absolutely terrified. 86 00:04:04,773 --> 00:04:06,493 Speaker 3: But if you've got any tips, if you are a 87 00:04:06,493 --> 00:04:08,973 Speaker 3: wedding MC, I'd love to hear from you nine to 88 00:04:09,173 --> 00:04:09,573 Speaker 3: nine to two. 89 00:04:09,653 --> 00:04:12,373 Speaker 2: But let's get into always have a pleasant smile on 90 00:04:12,413 --> 00:04:15,013 Speaker 2: your face throughout the whole thing. Nice, Just that this 91 00:04:15,093 --> 00:04:18,813 Speaker 2: is a beautiful Just let the love. Let the love 92 00:04:19,013 --> 00:04:22,213 Speaker 2: in the room throw through you and out to the 93 00:04:22,213 --> 00:04:24,133 Speaker 2: people there. Give it a hunda, your recap, give it 94 00:04:24,133 --> 00:04:24,533 Speaker 2: a Hundy. 95 00:04:24,613 --> 00:04:24,813 Speaker 5: Yep. 96 00:04:24,853 --> 00:04:26,893 Speaker 2: You can never be too sch maltzy. Okay, I love that. 97 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:30,053 Speaker 3: Right on to today's show after three o'clock one to 98 00:04:30,093 --> 00:04:31,613 Speaker 3: have a chat about athlete mountdowns. 99 00:04:31,613 --> 00:04:33,013 Speaker 2: This is after Coco Goff. 100 00:04:33,213 --> 00:04:35,853 Speaker 3: She's got into a bit of a tizz after she 101 00:04:35,973 --> 00:04:37,853 Speaker 3: lost her match at the Australian Open. 102 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:40,173 Speaker 2: She went out of the stadium and. 103 00:04:40,173 --> 00:04:43,173 Speaker 3: Thought she was going around the corner outside the realm 104 00:04:43,293 --> 00:04:46,653 Speaker 3: of the video cameras, and she absolutely destroyed her racket. 105 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:49,293 Speaker 3: She went to down because she was so upset at 106 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:50,013 Speaker 3: losing that match. 107 00:04:50,253 --> 00:04:53,093 Speaker 2: Classic tennis player, the worst people on planet Earth seems 108 00:04:53,093 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 2: to be pretty common with tennis players. 109 00:04:55,293 --> 00:04:58,133 Speaker 3: But she's got her knickers on a twist now saying 110 00:04:58,213 --> 00:05:00,453 Speaker 3: that that was a private moment. They shouldn't have videoed 111 00:05:00,493 --> 00:05:02,373 Speaker 3: me doing that. So that's kind of where we want 112 00:05:02,373 --> 00:05:04,813 Speaker 3: to go to with this. Is this part of sport 113 00:05:04,853 --> 00:05:08,933 Speaker 3: and entertainment. Do you respect when athletes actually have these mountdowns? 114 00:05:08,933 --> 00:05:12,133 Speaker 3: These are high energy, high stakes environments. So when they 115 00:05:12,173 --> 00:05:15,533 Speaker 3: blow up and have a complete tanty break their rackets, 116 00:05:15,613 --> 00:05:19,053 Speaker 3: scream at the ball boy or girl, is that something 117 00:05:19,133 --> 00:05:20,973 Speaker 3: that you find entertaining or do you look at those 118 00:05:21,013 --> 00:05:22,053 Speaker 3: people and say you're a prap? 119 00:05:22,373 --> 00:05:24,733 Speaker 2: Well both, I find it very entertaining, but I think 120 00:05:24,733 --> 00:05:26,973 Speaker 2: they're a prat, right, And I think you have to 121 00:05:27,013 --> 00:05:29,413 Speaker 2: look at it across the entire board. If someone behaves 122 00:05:29,413 --> 00:05:31,253 Speaker 2: like that in social sport, do you think that they're 123 00:05:31,293 --> 00:05:33,093 Speaker 2: a good person? What do you think they're a bad person? 124 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:36,733 Speaker 2: So why should it be any different in professional sport? 125 00:05:37,173 --> 00:05:38,413 Speaker 2: You know at that person. You know, I've played a 126 00:05:38,453 --> 00:05:40,773 Speaker 2: lot of social sport in my time and there is 127 00:05:40,813 --> 00:05:42,933 Speaker 2: that person and I've been that person in the past 128 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:45,733 Speaker 2: that takes it all a little bit too seriously and 129 00:05:46,333 --> 00:05:49,173 Speaker 2: blows things up and makes it no fun for everyone. 130 00:05:49,293 --> 00:05:50,733 Speaker 3: That's a very fair point. There's going to be a 131 00:05:50,733 --> 00:05:53,093 Speaker 3: great chat after three o'clock. After two o'clock a nice 132 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:57,693 Speaker 3: story interviewing Eli Mathieson, well known comedian and all around 133 00:05:57,693 --> 00:06:00,653 Speaker 3: great guy in New Zealand. So it's about him taking 134 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:02,773 Speaker 3: an oe with his partner a little bit later in life. 135 00:06:02,813 --> 00:06:05,013 Speaker 3: It was something he didn't get to do in his 136 00:06:05,093 --> 00:06:07,333 Speaker 3: early twenties. So now, at the age of thirty seven, 137 00:06:07,613 --> 00:06:10,893 Speaker 3: he's relocated to London. He really misses his life back 138 00:06:10,893 --> 00:06:13,653 Speaker 3: here in Auckland and New Zealand. He says that, he says, 139 00:06:13,733 --> 00:06:15,613 Speaker 3: out of ten, my life in Auckland was a nine. 140 00:06:15,773 --> 00:06:17,813 Speaker 2: But if I didn't do it now, I was never 141 00:06:17,893 --> 00:06:20,733 Speaker 2: really going to do it. Yeah. That's an interesting one, 142 00:06:20,773 --> 00:06:22,173 Speaker 2: isn't it, Because a lot of people go, oh, well, 143 00:06:22,213 --> 00:06:23,533 Speaker 2: I didn't travel when I was younger, but I might 144 00:06:23,613 --> 00:06:27,533 Speaker 2: might do it when I retire. Yeah, but the late 145 00:06:27,573 --> 00:06:31,373 Speaker 2: Oe it's becoming very very popular. I mean, difficult to 146 00:06:31,453 --> 00:06:34,653 Speaker 2: do with a family, but possible. My parents did it. 147 00:06:35,013 --> 00:06:38,813 Speaker 2: My parents some upsticks and with three kids. How old 148 00:06:38,893 --> 00:06:41,892 Speaker 2: were they roughly them? Yeah when they did that. Actually, 149 00:06:41,973 --> 00:06:44,893 Speaker 2: now I think about it, they were probably in their twenties. Yeah, 150 00:06:45,013 --> 00:06:46,693 Speaker 2: that's where were that old? Actually? Yeah? 151 00:06:46,773 --> 00:06:49,773 Speaker 3: But I mean the generational difference there, yeah, yeah, you 152 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:52,213 Speaker 3: know that is that was old for doing that. Yeah, yeah, 153 00:06:52,253 --> 00:06:53,693 Speaker 3: because you had your life's sort by the time you 154 00:06:53,693 --> 00:06:54,173 Speaker 3: were twenty two. 155 00:06:54,253 --> 00:06:56,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you get stuck in at nineteen then you 156 00:06:56,333 --> 00:07:00,293 Speaker 2: are twenty nine is old? Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I 157 00:07:00,293 --> 00:07:03,253 Speaker 2: mean that the late the later oe have you done it? 158 00:07:03,853 --> 00:07:05,013 Speaker 2: Are you thinking about doing it? 159 00:07:05,173 --> 00:07:05,413 Speaker 6: Yep? 160 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:07,613 Speaker 2: Is it worth while? Is it possible? You don't get 161 00:07:07,613 --> 00:07:10,733 Speaker 2: the same You don't get the same status in London, 162 00:07:10,733 --> 00:07:12,933 Speaker 2: do you if you're thirty seven? It's a bit harder 163 00:07:12,973 --> 00:07:14,773 Speaker 2: to do the pub crules and no. But don't you 164 00:07:14,813 --> 00:07:15,973 Speaker 2: get why I should look into it? 165 00:07:16,053 --> 00:07:17,693 Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, visas are a 166 00:07:17,733 --> 00:07:19,133 Speaker 3: lot harder to get. I think the cut off is 167 00:07:19,133 --> 00:07:20,933 Speaker 3: thirty five. You're right, so yeah, getting the job is 168 00:07:20,973 --> 00:07:22,293 Speaker 3: bit harder. But that's going to be a good chat 169 00:07:22,333 --> 00:07:24,973 Speaker 3: after two o'clock. But right now, let's have a chat 170 00:07:25,013 --> 00:07:29,293 Speaker 3: about now Former minister and former National Party politician Judith Collins. 171 00:07:29,333 --> 00:07:32,253 Speaker 3: She has announced she is retiring from politics to become 172 00:07:32,253 --> 00:07:34,613 Speaker 3: the new President of the Law Commission. She announced her 173 00:07:34,613 --> 00:07:37,973 Speaker 3: retirement this morning, in which she thanked her family and 174 00:07:38,173 --> 00:07:42,733 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Christopher Luxen. So During the stand up, she 175 00:07:43,293 --> 00:07:46,333 Speaker 3: did talk about her highs and lows, and also about 176 00:07:46,373 --> 00:07:47,333 Speaker 3: moving on like. 177 00:07:47,413 --> 00:07:51,413 Speaker 7: A seriously big high is getting the defense capability planned 178 00:07:51,453 --> 00:07:56,093 Speaker 7: through and working with coalition partners. One of the other 179 00:07:56,453 --> 00:08:00,213 Speaker 7: huge highs just recently is the top of the South 180 00:08:00,293 --> 00:08:04,373 Speaker 7: Settlement that had been going on for sixteen years of 181 00:08:04,453 --> 00:08:06,573 Speaker 7: litigation and I got it done. 182 00:08:06,893 --> 00:08:08,213 Speaker 8: I mean Low's were weld. 183 00:08:08,573 --> 00:08:10,213 Speaker 7: Twenty election was pretty bad. 184 00:08:10,973 --> 00:08:11,933 Speaker 8: Yeah, that wasn't great. 185 00:08:12,453 --> 00:08:15,693 Speaker 7: But the thing is that sometimes you just got to 186 00:08:15,733 --> 00:08:19,093 Speaker 7: step up when you want to run away from it. 187 00:08:19,093 --> 00:08:25,813 Speaker 7: It's like I've generally and genuinely really loved my job 188 00:08:26,253 --> 00:08:29,173 Speaker 7: and I think you can probably tell. But all good 189 00:08:29,213 --> 00:08:32,653 Speaker 7: things have to come to an end. And twenty four years, 190 00:08:33,253 --> 00:08:38,013 Speaker 7: twelve years in opposition, twelve years in government and eighteen 191 00:08:38,093 --> 00:08:40,813 Speaker 7: portfolios I think count them up, goes up to twenty 192 00:08:40,813 --> 00:08:42,453 Speaker 7: if you count them twice and a couple of them. 193 00:08:42,852 --> 00:08:43,612 Speaker 8: It's pretty cool. 194 00:08:43,852 --> 00:08:47,612 Speaker 7: I am the mother of the House, Like I say, 195 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:51,573 Speaker 7: that's quite aging. You know, Jerry Brown is you know, 196 00:08:51,653 --> 00:08:54,732 Speaker 7: the father and it sax platonic. I have had eight 197 00:08:55,413 --> 00:08:58,773 Speaker 7: elections in a row as an electric Member of Parliament 198 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:02,612 Speaker 7: and every single time being elected, and my majority has 199 00:09:02,653 --> 00:09:05,333 Speaker 7: gone up and down and up again, and you know, 200 00:09:05,372 --> 00:09:08,933 Speaker 7: it's like I feel like I've done my dash. Time 201 00:09:09,012 --> 00:09:12,173 Speaker 7: for someone else to step in and take over some 202 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:14,213 Speaker 7: of these roles and to have an opportunity. 203 00:09:15,612 --> 00:09:18,053 Speaker 2: So there you go, you said, to see Judith Collins go. 204 00:09:18,252 --> 00:09:22,333 Speaker 2: It's been quite a career in parliament for Cleveden. Two 205 00:09:22,372 --> 00:09:25,413 Speaker 2: thousand and two. She's been around a long time. She 206 00:09:25,453 --> 00:09:27,653 Speaker 2: was a lawyer for twenty one years before that. Yeah, 207 00:09:27,973 --> 00:09:31,372 Speaker 2: so she's sixty six, but she doesn't look like she's 208 00:09:31,892 --> 00:09:34,012 Speaker 2: aiming to slow down at all. No. So she's got 209 00:09:34,053 --> 00:09:35,093 Speaker 2: this new position. 210 00:09:34,933 --> 00:09:38,013 Speaker 3: Yep, as a President of the Law Commission, and that 211 00:09:38,093 --> 00:09:40,973 Speaker 3: will be a role that she'll be incredibly good at. 212 00:09:40,973 --> 00:09:42,813 Speaker 3: You've got to say, with twenty one years as a lawyer, 213 00:09:42,852 --> 00:09:44,053 Speaker 3: but clearly she's been well. 214 00:09:44,132 --> 00:09:46,293 Speaker 2: Yeah. She was a solicitor from eighty one to ninety 215 00:09:46,372 --> 00:09:48,412 Speaker 2: and then she had her own practice, Judith Collins and 216 00:09:48,453 --> 00:09:51,773 Speaker 2: Associations from nineteen ninety to two thousand. Then she was 217 00:09:51,813 --> 00:09:54,693 Speaker 2: the president of the Auckland District Law Society, Vice President 218 00:09:54,732 --> 00:09:56,612 Speaker 2: of the New Zealand Law Society after that. She a 219 00:09:56,612 --> 00:09:58,893 Speaker 2: person of the Casino Control Authority, Director of Housing New 220 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:03,093 Speaker 2: Zealand Limited Special Council after that. So before she went 221 00:10:03,132 --> 00:10:07,973 Speaker 2: into parliament she had arisen very high in the whole 222 00:10:08,612 --> 00:10:09,613 Speaker 2: legal system, hadn't she. 223 00:10:09,773 --> 00:10:11,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So love to hear from you O eight 224 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:14,973 Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty What will you remember about 225 00:10:15,053 --> 00:10:18,453 Speaker 3: Judith Collins's time in as a New Zealand politician and 226 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:21,132 Speaker 3: her legacy so that the thing that keeps standing out 227 00:10:21,173 --> 00:10:22,693 Speaker 3: for me is when she took over the leadership of 228 00:10:22,693 --> 00:10:26,132 Speaker 3: the National Party. And sure there was probably some ambition 229 00:10:26,213 --> 00:10:28,573 Speaker 3: there for her to hopefully become Prime minister, but I 230 00:10:28,612 --> 00:10:31,293 Speaker 3: think at that point in time, seeing the turmoil of 231 00:10:31,413 --> 00:10:33,693 Speaker 3: that party with Todd Mauller taking over and then pulling 232 00:10:33,693 --> 00:10:36,733 Speaker 3: the pin after three months because it was having anxiety attacks, 233 00:10:36,933 --> 00:10:39,573 Speaker 3: and the state of that party, my feeling is she 234 00:10:39,732 --> 00:10:41,773 Speaker 3: had to step up because no one else could and 235 00:10:41,813 --> 00:10:43,973 Speaker 3: there was that we line just in that audio. Sometimes 236 00:10:44,012 --> 00:10:46,172 Speaker 3: you've got to step up when you just want to 237 00:10:46,213 --> 00:10:46,733 Speaker 3: run away. 238 00:10:46,973 --> 00:10:47,732 Speaker 2: She stepped up. 239 00:10:47,813 --> 00:10:49,813 Speaker 3: She stepped up and tried to save as much of 240 00:10:49,852 --> 00:10:52,093 Speaker 3: the furniture as she could, and she probably knew deep 241 00:10:52,132 --> 00:10:54,492 Speaker 3: down that the party wasn't going to get over the line, 242 00:10:54,573 --> 00:10:57,012 Speaker 3: and that was her one shot, one shot at being 243 00:10:57,012 --> 00:10:59,652 Speaker 3: a leader and potentially the Prime minister. But she stood 244 00:10:59,732 --> 00:11:01,132 Speaker 3: up and said I'm going to do it. I'm going 245 00:11:01,173 --> 00:11:03,533 Speaker 3: to do it for the good of the party and 246 00:11:03,933 --> 00:11:05,653 Speaker 3: if this means that this is my only shot, so 247 00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:05,973 Speaker 3: be it. 248 00:11:06,612 --> 00:11:06,813 Speaker 6: Yeah. 249 00:11:06,852 --> 00:11:11,013 Speaker 2: I mean highlights for me was the David Bain compensation report, 250 00:11:11,132 --> 00:11:13,453 Speaker 2: a dispute she know she challenged the ropemutness of the 251 00:11:13,492 --> 00:11:17,813 Speaker 2: Binnie report. She ordered peer review a look into it, 252 00:11:18,012 --> 00:11:20,693 Speaker 2: which I thought was really important as being a Dunedin 253 00:11:20,773 --> 00:11:23,412 Speaker 2: guy thought I thought the sanity she brought to the 254 00:11:23,413 --> 00:11:28,013 Speaker 2: whole David Bain debate was was much needed. I'm a 255 00:11:28,093 --> 00:11:30,373 Speaker 2: huge fan of tasering, so in two thousand and nine 256 00:11:30,492 --> 00:11:34,453 Speaker 2: she was instrumental in the rollout of tases. Yes, across 257 00:11:34,492 --> 00:11:37,013 Speaker 2: the country. But you know, I've interviewed her a number 258 00:11:37,012 --> 00:11:40,533 Speaker 2: of times, and you know, you have the chat on 259 00:11:40,693 --> 00:11:42,813 Speaker 2: ear and you have the chat off here, and she 260 00:11:42,933 --> 00:11:46,093 Speaker 2: was always very very quick and funny on air, but 261 00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:50,813 Speaker 2: also just lovely quick and funny and generous off here. 262 00:11:51,693 --> 00:11:54,093 Speaker 2: So you know, across an interview, you could interview someone 263 00:11:54,093 --> 00:11:56,333 Speaker 2: in three breaks, right, and some of it's on air 264 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:57,893 Speaker 2: and some of it's off, but you know, as a 265 00:11:57,933 --> 00:12:01,413 Speaker 2: broadcaster you're experiencing the totality of your time with that person. Yes, 266 00:12:01,453 --> 00:12:05,013 Speaker 2: and it was always really fun to have Judith Collins on. Yeah. 267 00:12:05,012 --> 00:12:06,933 Speaker 3: I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 268 00:12:07,093 --> 00:12:09,893 Speaker 3: number to call? How much will you miss Judith Collins 269 00:12:09,973 --> 00:12:12,653 Speaker 3: being in Parliament? What do you think her legacy will be? 270 00:12:12,773 --> 00:12:15,333 Speaker 3: Love to get your thoughts. Nine two ninety two is 271 00:12:15,372 --> 00:12:17,693 Speaker 3: the text number as well. It is eighteen past three. 272 00:12:17,732 --> 00:12:19,892 Speaker 3: Bag very surely the. 273 00:12:19,732 --> 00:12:23,693 Speaker 4: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything 274 00:12:23,693 --> 00:12:24,253 Speaker 4: in between. 275 00:12:24,413 --> 00:12:27,333 Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks. 276 00:12:27,372 --> 00:12:30,653 Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon. She it is twenty past one. 277 00:12:30,773 --> 00:12:34,253 Speaker 3: We are talking about the career of Judith Collins as 278 00:12:34,293 --> 00:12:36,693 Speaker 3: a politician. She will be stepping down in the middle 279 00:12:36,732 --> 00:12:39,132 Speaker 3: of this year, retiring. She's taken up a new position 280 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:41,773 Speaker 3: as President of the Law Commission. But really keen to 281 00:12:41,813 --> 00:12:44,573 Speaker 3: hear from you. Will Parliament be a worse off place 282 00:12:44,573 --> 00:12:47,293 Speaker 3: without Judith Collins. She's had a howl of an impact 283 00:12:47,293 --> 00:12:48,333 Speaker 3: over twenty four years. 284 00:12:48,533 --> 00:12:52,132 Speaker 2: This Texas says she will always be remembered as Crusher Collins. 285 00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:56,333 Speaker 2: That really it stuck, didn't it? So when was there 286 00:12:56,492 --> 00:12:59,413 Speaker 2: was that about getting the time right? When she was 287 00:12:59,413 --> 00:13:01,453 Speaker 2: pushing for the crushing of cars. I think there was 288 00:13:01,492 --> 00:13:04,053 Speaker 2: only about one car crushed in the end, So that 289 00:13:04,093 --> 00:13:06,133 Speaker 2: was about two thousand and nine, wasn't it. Yes, same 290 00:13:06,132 --> 00:13:09,293 Speaker 2: time she was bringing out the Tasers, Crush of Collins 291 00:13:10,492 --> 00:13:13,533 Speaker 2: for persistent boy races. It was just a nickname that 292 00:13:13,653 --> 00:13:16,373 Speaker 2: kind of worked across a lot of things, because she 293 00:13:17,852 --> 00:13:20,173 Speaker 2: was a robust person that you didn't want to go 294 00:13:20,252 --> 00:13:23,653 Speaker 2: up against straight. It's not just the crushing of cars. 295 00:13:23,653 --> 00:13:27,933 Speaker 2: She could crush you with her wi. Yeah, Justin, how 296 00:13:27,933 --> 00:13:28,613 Speaker 2: are you this afternoon? 297 00:13:30,252 --> 00:13:30,573 Speaker 9: How you going? 298 00:13:30,573 --> 00:13:30,893 Speaker 10: Toller? 299 00:13:31,173 --> 00:13:34,612 Speaker 2: Very well? So you've got a favorite Judith Collins moment, I. 300 00:13:34,492 --> 00:13:34,973 Speaker 6: Say, we do. 301 00:13:35,132 --> 00:13:38,773 Speaker 9: Yes, we've been going back a few years ago ago. 302 00:13:38,813 --> 00:13:43,213 Speaker 9: I think, guys, probably when Nashville was lasting before Labor. 303 00:13:44,132 --> 00:13:48,693 Speaker 9: I remember quite vividly though, having a debate across the house. 304 00:13:49,093 --> 00:13:52,853 Speaker 9: I think this might have been when when Dune was 305 00:13:52,852 --> 00:13:56,213 Speaker 9: in power with the Labor government and there was some 306 00:13:56,293 --> 00:13:59,372 Speaker 9: kind of debate going across the house between Justin Dune 307 00:13:59,533 --> 00:14:03,413 Speaker 9: and Judith Collins. And I always vividly remember the last 308 00:14:03,892 --> 00:14:07,213 Speaker 9: line that jud said was zip it sweety, and of 309 00:14:07,252 --> 00:14:10,813 Speaker 9: course the house to rupted after it might have been 310 00:14:10,813 --> 00:14:12,973 Speaker 9: a bit of a bad comic, but yeah, very very quick, 311 00:14:13,293 --> 00:14:16,773 Speaker 9: very quick witted. Certainly put just center in the place. 312 00:14:16,813 --> 00:14:18,333 Speaker 9: But that's politics, suppose. 313 00:14:18,732 --> 00:14:20,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was a very quick line and 314 00:14:20,653 --> 00:14:22,893 Speaker 3: one that it stays are the memories of many of us. 315 00:14:22,893 --> 00:14:24,853 Speaker 3: But it was I mean, it's just beautifully said. It 316 00:14:24,853 --> 00:14:26,973 Speaker 3: wasn't it delivered? And I don't think she may have 317 00:14:27,053 --> 00:14:28,773 Speaker 3: even intended it to be that funny. I think she 318 00:14:28,893 --> 00:14:30,373 Speaker 3: just had an lat said zippit sweety. 319 00:14:30,973 --> 00:14:32,613 Speaker 9: That's exactly right. I think I saw a printing on 320 00:14:32,613 --> 00:14:35,333 Speaker 9: a T shirt one stage, maybe even in a cope mug. 321 00:14:35,373 --> 00:14:37,893 Speaker 9: I'm not really sure, but yeah, just says I just 322 00:14:37,893 --> 00:14:40,453 Speaker 9: watched on to you guys, and here she talk about, 323 00:14:40,453 --> 00:14:43,893 Speaker 9: I know, jud shipping down and yeah, yeah, she's very 324 00:14:43,973 --> 00:14:46,653 Speaker 9: very powerful figure, uh in politics and matter what type 325 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:48,733 Speaker 9: from from the house, do you know what I mean? 326 00:14:48,893 --> 00:14:52,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Uh, that's an interesting one, the zippit sweety, 327 00:14:52,333 --> 00:14:56,493 Speaker 2: because that was a position she had as a you know, 328 00:14:56,613 --> 00:15:00,052 Speaker 2: older than just into a woman. Yes, so she was 329 00:15:00,093 --> 00:15:05,093 Speaker 2: in a position to say zippit sweety. I mean Whinston 330 00:15:05,093 --> 00:15:07,773 Speaker 2: Peters probably wouldn't even get away with saying zippit sweety 331 00:15:07,853 --> 00:15:09,693 Speaker 2: to a younger woman would exactly. 332 00:15:09,773 --> 00:15:09,973 Speaker 6: Yeah. 333 00:15:10,013 --> 00:15:13,373 Speaker 3: I think people tried the accusations of Bede sexist, and 334 00:15:13,453 --> 00:15:15,333 Speaker 3: of course Judith quite rightly said, what the hell are 335 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:15,853 Speaker 3: you talking about? 336 00:15:15,853 --> 00:15:19,013 Speaker 2: I'm a woman. This is a bit sweetiest sweet, it's 337 00:15:19,093 --> 00:15:22,773 Speaker 2: so it's so condescending. It's it's you know, be quiet. 338 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:28,412 Speaker 2: You are just a little basically you're a child, you know, 339 00:15:28,933 --> 00:15:32,573 Speaker 2: not even you're lying someone for being even a threat. 340 00:15:32,813 --> 00:15:34,093 Speaker 2: You're just saying zip it, sweetie. 341 00:15:34,213 --> 00:15:34,413 Speaker 6: Yeah. 342 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:37,373 Speaker 2: You know what would be the male equivalent, Sit down, Sonny, 343 00:15:37,693 --> 00:15:40,093 Speaker 2: Sit down, son, shut your face son. 344 00:15:40,973 --> 00:15:44,333 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, sit down junior. Yeah, this ain't your time, mate, 345 00:15:44,413 --> 00:15:47,412 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, justin. That's a great one. Thank you very much. 346 00:15:47,453 --> 00:15:49,253 Speaker 3: O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 347 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:52,093 Speaker 3: number to call your favorite Judith Collins moment over a 348 00:15:52,173 --> 00:15:52,973 Speaker 3: past twenty four years. 349 00:15:53,013 --> 00:15:55,013 Speaker 2: Love to hear from you twenty four How much of 350 00:15:55,053 --> 00:15:57,813 Speaker 2: a loss is this to New Zealand Because if you 351 00:15:57,853 --> 00:16:00,493 Speaker 2: look at, you know, the portfolios she's had over the years, 352 00:16:00,973 --> 00:16:04,773 Speaker 2: it makes for phenomenal reading, you know, at different times. 353 00:16:04,813 --> 00:16:07,733 Speaker 2: Minister of Police, Minister Corrections, Minister of Venance Affears, it's 354 00:16:07,813 --> 00:16:10,213 Speaker 2: responsible for the Serious Fraud Office, Minister of Justice, Minister 355 00:16:10,373 --> 00:16:14,493 Speaker 2: acc Minister of Ethnic Affears, Minister of Revenue, Minister of 356 00:16:14,613 --> 00:16:17,933 Speaker 2: Energy and Resources, Attorney General, Minister of Defense, Minister responsible 357 00:16:18,293 --> 00:16:21,853 Speaker 2: for the Government's Communications Security Brewer Minister responsible for New 358 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:26,053 Speaker 2: Zealand Security Intelligence Service, Minister for Digitizing Government, Minister for Space, 359 00:16:26,733 --> 00:16:30,733 Speaker 2: Minister of Science, Innovation and Technology, Minister of the Public Service. 360 00:16:31,173 --> 00:16:34,292 Speaker 2: I mean that is quite I mean, the hell of 361 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:37,253 Speaker 2: a resume that covers everything it does, doesn't it. It's phenomenal. 362 00:16:37,493 --> 00:16:39,133 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties number to 363 00:16:39,173 --> 00:16:42,093 Speaker 3: call nine two ninety two is the text high lads. 364 00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:44,093 Speaker 2: Old guide here. Judith Collins is a good person. But 365 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,653 Speaker 2: anyone who's been in Parliament in the last twenty five years, 366 00:16:46,653 --> 00:16:49,773 Speaker 2: who watched house prices explode and all our bright young 367 00:16:50,213 --> 00:16:53,253 Speaker 2: people leave to go over seas should hang meads in shame. 368 00:16:55,813 --> 00:16:57,013 Speaker 2: Keep those texts coming through that. 369 00:16:57,133 --> 00:16:59,412 Speaker 3: So he's saying she's a good person, but she should 370 00:16:59,413 --> 00:17:01,573 Speaker 3: hang her head in shame. Get on your text to 371 00:17:01,653 --> 00:17:03,573 Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. Is that number back in a mow. 372 00:17:03,853 --> 00:17:05,092 Speaker 3: It is twenty five past one. 373 00:17:06,453 --> 00:17:10,573 Speaker 8: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking breakfast. 374 00:17:10,613 --> 00:17:13,493 Speaker 11: The Broadcasting Standards Authority calls for new laws. Stacy Wood, 375 00:17:13,493 --> 00:17:15,653 Speaker 11: as Chief Executive of the BUSA, if I was the 376 00:17:15,693 --> 00:17:17,253 Speaker 11: minister in charge of this, and even if I sat 377 00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:19,053 Speaker 11: you down and said, look, I agree with you, so 378 00:17:19,213 --> 00:17:20,373 Speaker 11: let's do something about it. 379 00:17:20,453 --> 00:17:22,133 Speaker 2: I don't know where we start and where we stopped. 380 00:17:22,213 --> 00:17:24,413 Speaker 12: Yeah, and successive governments have had their challenge. 381 00:17:24,533 --> 00:17:27,973 Speaker 13: We just don't think doing nothing is kind any longer. 382 00:17:28,173 --> 00:17:30,573 Speaker 11: Are you more worried about the accuracy stuff or the 383 00:17:30,653 --> 00:17:32,853 Speaker 11: sort of the morals, the language, all that kind of thing. 384 00:17:33,053 --> 00:17:35,693 Speaker 14: Yeah, good taste and decency sort of become less of 385 00:17:35,733 --> 00:17:36,973 Speaker 14: a concern for audiences. 386 00:17:37,173 --> 00:17:38,293 Speaker 2: I've been back a week and a half. 387 00:17:38,373 --> 00:17:40,013 Speaker 8: Have you got any complaints about me yet? 388 00:17:40,213 --> 00:17:42,293 Speaker 13: I'm not so far, but you know, I keep going. 389 00:17:43,893 --> 00:17:46,133 Speaker 11: Nice to talk to you back tomorrow at six am 390 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:49,253 Speaker 11: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bayley's Real Estate News Talk. 391 00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:52,733 Speaker 2: Zaid, be very good afternoon to you, great heavy. It 392 00:17:52,933 --> 00:17:56,893 Speaker 2: wasn't Judith Collins that said, zippit's sweetie. It was Paula Bennett. 393 00:17:57,173 --> 00:17:59,533 Speaker 2: Mess with me at Copper here, mess of me at Copper. 394 00:17:59,933 --> 00:18:01,333 Speaker 2: I thought I had a feeling in the back of 395 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,653 Speaker 2: my mind that it wasn't Judith Collins that said that, 396 00:18:03,813 --> 00:18:06,493 Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't say anything at the time. 397 00:18:06,773 --> 00:18:08,613 Speaker 2: In fact, I had this whole laborate story that I 398 00:18:08,613 --> 00:18:10,293 Speaker 2: added to it that as an older woman, it's a 399 00:18:10,453 --> 00:18:14,973 Speaker 2: very insulting, well, just a greatly diminishing thing to say 400 00:18:15,013 --> 00:18:16,693 Speaker 2: to a younger woman. Do I guess Paula Bennett, Well, 401 00:18:16,693 --> 00:18:19,733 Speaker 2: Paula Benett would be ten years, eleven years, something like 402 00:18:19,773 --> 00:18:22,413 Speaker 2: that older than Justina are doing. Yeah, so it's still 403 00:18:22,613 --> 00:18:26,733 Speaker 2: it's still an older woman shutting down a younger woman. 404 00:18:26,893 --> 00:18:29,973 Speaker 2: It is, yeah, a senior too, a somewhat junior. I suppose, well, 405 00:18:30,053 --> 00:18:32,093 Speaker 2: that's not fair, because Judith Collins had some of the 406 00:18:32,173 --> 00:18:34,773 Speaker 2: best one liners of all times. She's famous for a 407 00:18:34,813 --> 00:18:37,333 Speaker 2: one liners. Right, yeah, and then we've gone and assigned 408 00:18:37,773 --> 00:18:41,333 Speaker 2: Paula Bennett's one liner to Judith Collins. Surely we can 409 00:18:41,413 --> 00:18:44,053 Speaker 2: find some Judith Collins one liners. Yeah, things that Judith 410 00:18:44,093 --> 00:18:46,373 Speaker 2: Collins said over the years that made you laugh, oh, 411 00:18:46,373 --> 00:18:47,413 Speaker 2: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 412 00:18:47,453 --> 00:18:50,453 Speaker 3: We can promise you that absolutely. Nineteen ninety two is 413 00:18:50,573 --> 00:18:53,373 Speaker 3: the text as well, love to hear from you. Will 414 00:18:53,413 --> 00:18:55,933 Speaker 3: Parliament be worse off without Judith Collins? 415 00:18:56,013 --> 00:18:59,173 Speaker 2: There The only legacy I will remember of Crusher Collins 416 00:18:59,293 --> 00:19:01,893 Speaker 2: is my Subaru legacy that she crushed when my car 417 00:19:02,013 --> 00:19:05,213 Speaker 2: was impounded. She is Uncle Steve. So how many I 418 00:19:05,333 --> 00:19:08,013 Speaker 2: thought there was bugger all yahually crushed in? How many 419 00:19:08,053 --> 00:19:09,813 Speaker 2: were it crushed? I thought that was one of the 420 00:19:09,853 --> 00:19:12,213 Speaker 2: criticisms of the whole crushing thing, that it was sort 421 00:19:12,253 --> 00:19:15,893 Speaker 2: of so hard to get it organized that very few 422 00:19:15,973 --> 00:19:18,373 Speaker 2: got crushed. But so it'd be quite something of Steve 423 00:19:18,493 --> 00:19:20,052 Speaker 2: was one of the people that got her car as 424 00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:21,532 Speaker 2: car crushed by crusher. 425 00:19:21,653 --> 00:19:24,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, so just going off some quick information here, as 426 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:27,333 Speaker 3: of late twenty seventeen, at least three cars were officially 427 00:19:27,373 --> 00:19:31,093 Speaker 3: crushed by authorities under that legislation targeting illegal street racing. 428 00:19:31,373 --> 00:19:34,812 Speaker 2: So three, so Uncle Steve has one. Maybe the other 429 00:19:34,853 --> 00:19:36,413 Speaker 2: two are listening out there, So it was the ring 430 00:19:36,573 --> 00:19:38,613 Speaker 2: one third of those who have had their car crushed 431 00:19:39,013 --> 00:19:42,253 Speaker 2: are listening right now. I keep saying how big the 432 00:19:42,293 --> 00:19:45,773 Speaker 2: show's getting, But that's I mean, for all the talk 433 00:19:45,853 --> 00:19:49,373 Speaker 2: of the crushing and for a nickname that that lasted 434 00:19:50,053 --> 00:19:54,413 Speaker 2: that long, Yeah, barely anything got crushed. What a legacy. 435 00:19:54,613 --> 00:19:56,733 Speaker 2: She'd call it Taser Collins because she brought in the taser. 436 00:19:57,253 --> 00:20:00,013 Speaker 2: Taser Collins. I mean that is she was like a 437 00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:01,373 Speaker 2: human taser, wasn't she really? 438 00:20:01,373 --> 00:20:03,613 Speaker 3: If you come up against her, oh one hundred and 439 00:20:03,653 --> 00:20:06,293 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We're taking 440 00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:08,333 Speaker 3: your calls, of course, but coming up after the headline, 441 00:20:08,813 --> 00:20:11,613 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a chat with Barry, a soaper I believe. 442 00:20:11,773 --> 00:20:14,052 Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob first. Bob, you're a good afternoon 443 00:20:14,093 --> 00:20:14,253 Speaker 2: to you. 444 00:20:16,053 --> 00:20:16,573 Speaker 8: Good, Hey, Bob. 445 00:20:19,213 --> 00:20:22,413 Speaker 15: Years ago, I had some reason to correspond with her, 446 00:20:23,293 --> 00:20:27,213 Speaker 15: and I built through her electric secretary and I wrote 447 00:20:27,293 --> 00:20:29,573 Speaker 15: what I had and she sent it back and she 448 00:20:29,773 --> 00:20:33,853 Speaker 15: said TLTR And I said, what's that mean? She said, 449 00:20:33,893 --> 00:20:36,213 Speaker 15: too long to read it, too long to read, she 450 00:20:36,333 --> 00:20:39,653 Speaker 15: will not read it. So I had to abbreviate your 451 00:20:39,733 --> 00:20:42,613 Speaker 15: second time down. What was about three pages had to 452 00:20:42,693 --> 00:20:46,573 Speaker 15: about two paragraphs and an actual fact she missed the point. 453 00:20:47,493 --> 00:20:51,653 Speaker 15: So that's the column TLTR from Judith Collins. Too long 454 00:20:51,733 --> 00:20:55,333 Speaker 15: to read it and she gets things wrong. So basically, 455 00:20:55,733 --> 00:20:58,573 Speaker 15: I mean, I enjoy the party, but I'm faithal glad 456 00:20:58,613 --> 00:20:59,933 Speaker 15: that she's gone right. 457 00:21:00,013 --> 00:21:02,373 Speaker 2: That's interesting. So if she got it wrong, was that 458 00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:06,493 Speaker 2: because you're your shortening of what you'd written to her 459 00:21:07,173 --> 00:21:08,253 Speaker 2: wasn't accurate enough? 460 00:21:08,733 --> 00:21:08,893 Speaker 13: Is it? 461 00:21:09,013 --> 00:21:10,373 Speaker 2: Is it partially your fault? 462 00:21:10,413 --> 00:21:10,613 Speaker 10: Bob? 463 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:11,613 Speaker 6: See what they say? 464 00:21:11,693 --> 00:21:14,572 Speaker 15: Yes, my problem, but it's you know she I mean, 465 00:21:14,653 --> 00:21:17,493 Speaker 15: basically her secretary said she will not what I said, 466 00:21:17,573 --> 00:21:18,093 Speaker 15: she will. 467 00:21:18,053 --> 00:21:20,413 Speaker 8: Not read, she will not read it. 468 00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,933 Speaker 15: Was you know, she won't read at all. Un that's 469 00:21:22,973 --> 00:21:25,173 Speaker 15: where there's t l t R. He said, how too 470 00:21:25,253 --> 00:21:27,133 Speaker 15: long to read? Change it down? 471 00:21:27,293 --> 00:21:29,093 Speaker 2: How long was it? How long was it though, Bob. 472 00:21:30,133 --> 00:21:33,213 Speaker 15: Well, that's only the first instance, and I'm so I'm 473 00:21:33,213 --> 00:21:35,293 Speaker 15: sticking with it. Was about two pages. 474 00:21:35,653 --> 00:21:40,693 Speaker 2: It's pretty long, pretty long. You get through that, I'd 475 00:21:40,693 --> 00:21:44,133 Speaker 2: ask you to summarize. Can you tell me the some 476 00:21:44,333 --> 00:21:46,933 Speaker 2: thing's the seven hundred and fifty pages right long and 477 00:21:47,013 --> 00:21:49,373 Speaker 2: they're the right length? Yeah, some things are two pages, 478 00:21:49,773 --> 00:21:51,413 Speaker 2: two pages long, and they're too long to read. You 479 00:21:51,453 --> 00:21:52,933 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I think in an email. 480 00:21:53,053 --> 00:21:54,853 Speaker 3: And I don't know whether you did this, bomb Bob, 481 00:21:54,893 --> 00:21:56,853 Speaker 3: but you can't have a big preamble that at the 482 00:21:56,893 --> 00:21:59,733 Speaker 3: start when you when you're asking a minister for for something, 483 00:21:59,813 --> 00:22:01,693 Speaker 3: you're just going to go straight to the point. Dear minister, 484 00:22:02,173 --> 00:22:05,053 Speaker 3: I'm pissed off about this, and please help me fix it. 485 00:22:05,213 --> 00:22:09,413 Speaker 2: I think in AI terms that is t l DR. 486 00:22:09,653 --> 00:22:14,013 Speaker 2: Isn't it too long? Didn't read? And then chat GBT 487 00:22:14,173 --> 00:22:16,773 Speaker 2: cuts things down for people, Yeah, which just always seems 488 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:21,533 Speaker 2: to me an admission of a small attention span when 489 00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:23,093 Speaker 2: you say that was too long? Didn't read it? Yeah, 490 00:22:23,253 --> 00:22:25,933 Speaker 2: too long? It didn't read it a little bit of laziness, yeah, yeah, 491 00:22:26,333 --> 00:22:29,573 Speaker 2: Lord of Rings, too long, didn't watch it? Too long? 492 00:22:29,933 --> 00:22:32,213 Speaker 3: Too long to watch you miss it out, Bob, thank 493 00:22:32,253 --> 00:22:34,053 Speaker 3: you very much for your phone call. Oh, one hundred 494 00:22:34,053 --> 00:22:36,773 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. How much will you miss Judith Collins? 495 00:22:36,933 --> 00:22:40,133 Speaker 3: How much will Parliament be worse off without her? And 496 00:22:40,413 --> 00:22:43,133 Speaker 3: your great one liners that you remember? Nine to niney 497 00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:44,373 Speaker 3: two is the text number. 498 00:22:44,653 --> 00:22:47,653 Speaker 2: And you know, thank you for telling us to zip 499 00:22:47,693 --> 00:22:50,173 Speaker 2: it sweety around our zip as sweety comments. Yeah, thank you, 500 00:22:50,253 --> 00:22:51,013 Speaker 2: we deserve it right. 501 00:22:51,093 --> 00:22:53,733 Speaker 3: Coming up after the headlines, we will be speaking to 502 00:22:54,053 --> 00:22:57,133 Speaker 3: our political correspondent Barry Soper. He spent a lot of 503 00:22:57,173 --> 00:22:59,093 Speaker 3: time with Judith Collins, who will get his thoughts on 504 00:22:59,173 --> 00:22:59,773 Speaker 3: her retirement. 505 00:22:59,933 --> 00:23:05,173 Speaker 16: Next US talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxis, 506 00:23:05,293 --> 00:23:08,253 Speaker 16: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. People at risk 507 00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:11,493 Speaker 16: from a landslip near a reservoir water main pipe near 508 00:23:11,573 --> 00:23:15,453 Speaker 16: Todonga's Bay Park Stadium are being evacuated and sent to 509 00:23:15,573 --> 00:23:19,933 Speaker 16: Bay Park. That includes residents from Mangatawa Marai and Papa 510 00:23:20,093 --> 00:23:24,173 Speaker 16: Kayenga housing up to State Highway too at Papa Moyer's 511 00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:27,933 Speaker 16: Truman Lane's southern end. A state of emergency has been 512 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:30,933 Speaker 16: extended for todong A City Council and Western Bay of 513 00:23:30,973 --> 00:23:35,413 Speaker 16: Plenty District Council in force for another week the government 514 00:23:35,493 --> 00:23:38,533 Speaker 16: is deploying dozens of motor homes to give people displaced 515 00:23:38,573 --> 00:23:41,853 Speaker 16: in last week's severe weather a temporary home. The first 516 00:23:41,893 --> 00:23:43,093 Speaker 16: ten are heading to Northland. 517 00:23:43,173 --> 00:23:43,333 Speaker 2: Now. 518 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:47,693 Speaker 16: Former National Party leader and MP for Papakuda Judith Collins 519 00:23:48,013 --> 00:23:50,973 Speaker 16: is quitting politics after twenty four years in the game 520 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:54,013 Speaker 16: and becoming President of the Law Commission. Med this year, 521 00:23:55,053 --> 00:23:58,253 Speaker 16: Weta FX has been nominated for a BAFTA for Best 522 00:23:58,373 --> 00:24:02,413 Speaker 16: Special Visual Effects for Avatar Fire and Ash, one week 523 00:24:02,493 --> 00:24:05,493 Speaker 16: after getting an Academy Award nod for the same category. 524 00:24:06,533 --> 00:24:11,453 Speaker 16: Mount Manganui misinformation. Did cutting down trees really cause the landslide? 525 00:24:11,773 --> 00:24:14,293 Speaker 16: Find out more at INSI and here all premium back 526 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:16,133 Speaker 16: to Matteath and Tyler Adams. 527 00:24:17,293 --> 00:24:20,013 Speaker 3: News talks there be So after twenty four years as 528 00:24:20,053 --> 00:24:22,653 Speaker 3: a politician, Judith Collins will retire to take up a 529 00:24:22,733 --> 00:24:24,853 Speaker 3: job as President of the Law Commission. A man who 530 00:24:24,893 --> 00:24:27,453 Speaker 3: has spent a lot of time with Judith over her 531 00:24:27,613 --> 00:24:30,373 Speaker 3: career is how seeing a political correspondent, I say that 532 00:24:30,453 --> 00:24:32,453 Speaker 3: with love, bowry, sod. 533 00:24:31,933 --> 00:24:34,613 Speaker 5: Jolly well hope so and you know I was around 534 00:24:34,653 --> 00:24:38,213 Speaker 5: when she came into politics, of course, and she's seen 535 00:24:38,293 --> 00:24:41,613 Speaker 5: as a formidable politician. She is very good in the 536 00:24:41,693 --> 00:24:47,613 Speaker 5: House on debate. She's got an acerbic tongue, and that's 537 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,493 Speaker 5: why I think a lot of people see her as 538 00:24:49,573 --> 00:24:53,373 Speaker 5: being a pretty hard nosed person. But cut away all that, 539 00:24:53,653 --> 00:24:56,293 Speaker 5: and I've seen her socially on a number of occasions 540 00:24:56,693 --> 00:25:01,253 Speaker 5: over the years. She's got an hilarious soft side to her. 541 00:25:01,973 --> 00:25:05,693 Speaker 5: Even though in her time in politics there have been mistakes. 542 00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:09,693 Speaker 5: But then given the time that she spent in the place, 543 00:25:10,253 --> 00:25:14,053 Speaker 5: you'd expect mistakes to come and go, and as far 544 00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:17,133 Speaker 5: as she's concerned, most of them is gone and forgotten. 545 00:25:18,133 --> 00:25:21,093 Speaker 5: She credited me in a press conference just held with 546 00:25:22,213 --> 00:25:26,333 Speaker 5: calling her or dubbing her crusher columns because you know 547 00:25:26,493 --> 00:25:29,453 Speaker 5: she You'll remember she came out as police minister and 548 00:25:29,573 --> 00:25:32,173 Speaker 5: said those boy races that have got to be stopped, 549 00:25:32,213 --> 00:25:36,693 Speaker 5: and they passed a law that allowed their vehicles to 550 00:25:36,813 --> 00:25:40,573 Speaker 5: be crushed. Yes, Unfortunately for Judith, she only I think 551 00:25:40,733 --> 00:25:42,133 Speaker 5: managed to crush one. 552 00:25:44,973 --> 00:25:47,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, we our research came up with three, but it 553 00:25:47,413 --> 00:25:50,533 Speaker 2: was definitely a low known number. That's quite an achievement, 554 00:25:50,533 --> 00:25:53,813 Speaker 2: crush of Collins, because it really it stuck for one 555 00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:56,893 Speaker 2: because the situation was the crushing the cars. But it 556 00:25:57,013 --> 00:26:02,293 Speaker 2: seemed to fit because she was, So that's that's why 557 00:26:02,373 --> 00:26:04,333 Speaker 2: it came on. I mean I think people forgot about 558 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:06,413 Speaker 2: the cars and just started calling a crusher. 559 00:26:06,253 --> 00:26:11,093 Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, exactly. But I also remember, I mean National 560 00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:15,173 Speaker 5: was going through a very tumultuous time when she became leader. 561 00:26:15,293 --> 00:26:18,333 Speaker 5: I mean Todd Muller lasted I think fifty three days 562 00:26:19,173 --> 00:26:23,813 Speaker 5: in the role after defeating Simon Bridges and then Crusher 563 00:26:24,053 --> 00:26:26,933 Speaker 5: took on the mantle to fight Jasind Dern in the 564 00:26:27,013 --> 00:26:30,933 Speaker 5: twenty twenty election. And of course, so she puts that 565 00:26:31,093 --> 00:26:34,573 Speaker 5: as the low point of her career, that she had 566 00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:38,013 Speaker 5: such a crushing loss. Dare I say it? And you 567 00:26:38,093 --> 00:26:40,453 Speaker 5: know that was the time, of course, when the Labor 568 00:26:40,613 --> 00:26:44,813 Speaker 5: Party had, for the first time under MMP a majority 569 00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:48,493 Speaker 5: in Parliament, unbridled power and lock what happened then? 570 00:26:48,693 --> 00:26:49,453 Speaker 8: So it was a fish. 571 00:26:49,493 --> 00:26:51,013 Speaker 5: She wasn't a bit more effective. 572 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:52,533 Speaker 2: When she took over. Did you do you think that 573 00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:56,133 Speaker 2: she genuinely believe that she could win that election? Because 574 00:26:56,133 --> 00:26:57,493 Speaker 2: there's this Texas he is. I thought it was an 575 00:26:57,493 --> 00:27:00,933 Speaker 2: interesting text before a. Judith Collins is a brilliant woman, smart, 576 00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:03,293 Speaker 2: funny and takes no quarter. The election she lost was 577 00:27:03,453 --> 00:27:04,813 Speaker 2: less to do with her and more to do with 578 00:27:04,893 --> 00:27:07,653 Speaker 2: the national psychosis that had gripped the nation twenty twenty. 579 00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:11,053 Speaker 2: The return of j C himself would have had trouble 580 00:27:11,093 --> 00:27:12,133 Speaker 2: fighting that insanity. 581 00:27:12,613 --> 00:27:15,253 Speaker 5: That person who wrote the text is right on the mark, 582 00:27:15,373 --> 00:27:18,893 Speaker 5: and that's exactly the case. And it was hilarious the 583 00:27:18,933 --> 00:27:21,653 Speaker 5: big mistake that she made. Of course, as leader, she 584 00:27:21,813 --> 00:27:27,293 Speaker 5: decided to discipline Simon Bridge as the former leader, for 585 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:30,893 Speaker 5: something he said and a group of people at Premiere 586 00:27:30,973 --> 00:27:32,213 Speaker 5: House standing around. 587 00:27:31,973 --> 00:27:35,293 Speaker 2: It was a joke that he cracked. And the night 588 00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:36,373 Speaker 2: before she. 589 00:27:36,533 --> 00:27:39,133 Speaker 5: Was going to discipline, she rang me at home and 590 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,333 Speaker 5: I talked to her and I said, Judith, if you 591 00:27:41,813 --> 00:27:45,693 Speaker 5: discipline him, the only person that'll end up being disciplined 592 00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,653 Speaker 5: is you. You'll be making a big mistake. And of 593 00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:51,693 Speaker 5: course she was defeated as leader after that. But the 594 00:27:51,813 --> 00:27:57,013 Speaker 5: thing is, the discipline was for a very mild remark 595 00:27:57,173 --> 00:28:00,453 Speaker 5: that Simon bri the sexist, but mild, and he's saying 596 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:03,613 Speaker 5: it to a group of people within her hearing. And 597 00:28:03,693 --> 00:28:06,453 Speaker 5: she said to me at the time of the day before, 598 00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:10,893 Speaker 5: she said to me, if your wife Barry had heard that, 599 00:28:11,453 --> 00:28:15,213 Speaker 5: she would be disciplining somebody as well. Look, she's a 600 00:28:15,253 --> 00:28:18,693 Speaker 5: good disciplinarian Judith, but I don't think she would take 601 00:28:18,733 --> 00:28:19,693 Speaker 5: great exception to that. 602 00:28:20,813 --> 00:28:24,133 Speaker 2: So with all that in mind, what is Judith collins legacy? 603 00:28:26,293 --> 00:28:30,093 Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, for being a fairly tough, 604 00:28:30,613 --> 00:28:36,533 Speaker 5: tough minded politician, undoubtedly very sharp when it comes to 605 00:28:37,853 --> 00:28:41,053 Speaker 5: the mind. And the fact is that she spent twenty 606 00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:46,853 Speaker 5: one years practicing law before she came into politics. Really 607 00:28:47,773 --> 00:28:50,573 Speaker 5: that auger is well for the new job Law Commission 608 00:28:51,053 --> 00:28:53,893 Speaker 5: that she's taking up. Of course, old Jeffrey Palmer was 609 00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:57,173 Speaker 5: there after he got out of politics, and he was 610 00:28:57,213 --> 00:28:59,453 Speaker 5: there for quite a long time. I think Judith Collins 611 00:28:59,933 --> 00:29:03,973 Speaker 5: will probably shake the organization up, but make it probably 612 00:29:04,013 --> 00:29:04,933 Speaker 5: a little more human. 613 00:29:05,653 --> 00:29:07,013 Speaker 3: Will this leave a bit of a gap in the 614 00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:09,293 Speaker 3: National Party as I understand, and that she's leaving with 615 00:29:09,733 --> 00:29:12,773 Speaker 3: seven portfolios she has been looking after. Is there the 616 00:29:12,933 --> 00:29:14,853 Speaker 3: depth and the party to step up and take over 617 00:29:14,893 --> 00:29:18,333 Speaker 3: those portfolios and take over for for what Judith was 618 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:18,653 Speaker 3: standing for? 619 00:29:18,813 --> 00:29:23,293 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there is. Judith of course has defense 620 00:29:23,733 --> 00:29:27,933 Speaker 5: and we've up dour defense spend under her stewardship, and 621 00:29:28,013 --> 00:29:31,373 Speaker 5: I think that's and she actually really enjoyed defense. I 622 00:29:31,453 --> 00:29:35,053 Speaker 5: think she would like to have been an admiral or 623 00:29:35,093 --> 00:29:37,413 Speaker 5: a Field Marshal. She would have done well at that 624 00:29:38,773 --> 00:29:40,773 Speaker 5: and it must have given her a big buzz to 625 00:29:40,853 --> 00:29:44,733 Speaker 5: be able to order around the top generals in the country. 626 00:29:44,893 --> 00:29:48,933 Speaker 5: But look, having said that, she I think that was 627 00:29:49,173 --> 00:29:53,213 Speaker 5: a very good portfolio that she held and did it well. 628 00:29:53,573 --> 00:29:57,413 Speaker 5: Public service another one. Perhaps they weren't as harsh on 629 00:29:57,493 --> 00:29:59,973 Speaker 5: the public service as they could have been when they 630 00:30:00,053 --> 00:30:03,933 Speaker 5: took par two years ago, and they'll be ruined that day, 631 00:30:03,973 --> 00:30:07,253 Speaker 5: I think for a while. But you know, I think 632 00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:12,053 Speaker 5: her legacy will be very able politician for those of 633 00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:15,093 Speaker 5: us who knew were a very likable person, and I 634 00:30:15,173 --> 00:30:17,733 Speaker 5: think in the future she'll be seen as a very 635 00:30:17,853 --> 00:30:19,813 Speaker 5: good President of the Law Commission. 636 00:30:20,573 --> 00:30:24,013 Speaker 2: Now, finally, Barry Soper would be true to say that 637 00:30:24,173 --> 00:30:28,533 Speaker 2: she's leaving politics at her most respected phase in her career. 638 00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:29,053 Speaker 17: Yep. 639 00:30:29,373 --> 00:30:33,053 Speaker 5: Probably even though she was the leader of the National Party. 640 00:30:33,053 --> 00:30:36,893 Speaker 5: It was seen as desperation. Of course, Simon bridge Is 641 00:30:36,973 --> 00:30:41,293 Speaker 5: told Muller and then Judith Collins, and she knew, I'm 642 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:44,293 Speaker 5: sure going into that twenty twenty election she was on 643 00:30:44,413 --> 00:30:47,693 Speaker 5: a hiding to nothing and she got a hiding. But 644 00:30:48,093 --> 00:30:52,013 Speaker 5: as your brilliant Texter pointed out, it was inevitable in 645 00:30:52,173 --> 00:30:57,933 Speaker 5: twenty twenty, with the country terrified of any liberalization of 646 00:30:57,973 --> 00:31:00,773 Speaker 5: the COVID laws, which of course has turned out to 647 00:31:00,853 --> 00:31:01,533 Speaker 5: be ridiculous. 648 00:31:01,773 --> 00:31:04,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of red faced people looking back 649 00:31:04,173 --> 00:31:06,333 Speaker 2: at that now. Absolutely there is in the way we 650 00:31:06,413 --> 00:31:07,733 Speaker 2: collectively behaved at that time. 651 00:31:08,373 --> 00:31:09,053 Speaker 5: Very absolutely. 652 00:31:09,573 --> 00:31:11,613 Speaker 3: Always great to get you and thank you very much 653 00:31:11,653 --> 00:31:13,653 Speaker 3: for your analysis. We'll catch up again soon. 654 00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:14,373 Speaker 5: Nice talking to you. 655 00:31:14,653 --> 00:31:17,813 Speaker 3: That is our senior political correspondent, Barry Soper, and we're 656 00:31:17,853 --> 00:31:20,133 Speaker 3: taking your calls O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 657 00:31:20,493 --> 00:31:23,613 Speaker 3: What are your favorite moment moments from Judith Collins's career 658 00:31:23,773 --> 00:31:26,013 Speaker 3: and will politics be worse off without her? 659 00:31:26,133 --> 00:31:27,653 Speaker 2: It is sixteen to two. 660 00:31:28,653 --> 00:31:32,013 Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 661 00:31:32,373 --> 00:31:33,333 Speaker 4: everything in between. 662 00:31:33,573 --> 00:31:36,533 Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons us talk. 663 00:31:36,413 --> 00:31:39,893 Speaker 7: Sa'd be eyebrow goes up to joke. I think, Toby, 664 00:31:39,933 --> 00:31:42,933 Speaker 7: you want to actually understand a joke when you hear it. 665 00:31:43,093 --> 00:31:46,813 Speaker 2: My husband is someone so talofa it's a couple of 666 00:31:46,853 --> 00:31:49,293 Speaker 2: good one lineers there from Judith. The fact that so 667 00:31:49,453 --> 00:31:52,173 Speaker 2: few cars were crush shows that it worked as a deterrent, 668 00:31:53,373 --> 00:31:57,213 Speaker 2: says Jenny. This Texas says, I remember I was a 669 00:31:57,293 --> 00:31:59,453 Speaker 2: new cop in New Zealand, a long time serving cop 670 00:31:59,493 --> 00:32:01,413 Speaker 2: from overseas. I was dealing with an incident where a 671 00:32:01,493 --> 00:32:04,773 Speaker 2: prison officer was assaulted and eventually died. I recall her 672 00:32:04,813 --> 00:32:08,613 Speaker 2: coming out to the hospital at two am. Enough said, Yeah, 673 00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:12,213 Speaker 2: that's his A lot an incredible Keywi. She served the 674 00:32:12,253 --> 00:32:16,253 Speaker 2: country successfully and valiantly, tough, full of grit and determined 675 00:32:16,493 --> 00:32:19,053 Speaker 2: and a wicked sense of humor. Friends and her ministries 676 00:32:19,093 --> 00:32:21,853 Speaker 2: respected her. Thank you, Judith says me. 677 00:32:22,293 --> 00:32:24,373 Speaker 3: Keep those teaps coming through on nine two ninety two, 678 00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:27,613 Speaker 3: just so when you look at the color of Parliament, 679 00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:29,693 Speaker 3: and obviously Winston Peters is right at the top of that, 680 00:32:29,813 --> 00:32:32,173 Speaker 3: and there's been many others, but she would be part 681 00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:35,493 Speaker 3: of that equation as well. Very witty, very funny, very clever. 682 00:32:36,413 --> 00:32:38,453 Speaker 3: And the loss of that sort of color, I think, 683 00:32:38,493 --> 00:32:40,573 Speaker 3: when it happens more and more often, is a sad 684 00:32:40,653 --> 00:32:42,813 Speaker 3: thing for politics. That you need that humor, you need 685 00:32:42,893 --> 00:32:46,053 Speaker 3: that spice, You need people that can see the lighter 686 00:32:46,213 --> 00:32:48,893 Speaker 3: side of things, even in tough situations. I just fear 687 00:32:48,973 --> 00:32:50,733 Speaker 3: that we start to lose that more and more. 688 00:32:51,293 --> 00:32:53,893 Speaker 2: I wonder, says this text to Anna, if Judith had 689 00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,613 Speaker 2: been a man, if he would have been called crusher, 690 00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:58,893 Speaker 2: let alone for years afterward. Judas is an example of 691 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:03,053 Speaker 2: a strong, comminent woman getting somewhat vilified for being simple 692 00:33:03,813 --> 00:33:06,853 Speaker 2: simply that just saying Anna Ah. I mean, are you 693 00:33:06,933 --> 00:33:10,333 Speaker 2: really saying any of that that male politicians don't get 694 00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:13,773 Speaker 2: horrible nicknames? I think that's not true. Yeah, what about 695 00:33:13,853 --> 00:33:17,373 Speaker 2: Peggy Maldoon. Yeah, that Piggy Muldoon. That was a big 696 00:33:17,453 --> 00:33:19,493 Speaker 2: one for Do you think a woman politician would get 697 00:33:19,493 --> 00:33:20,413 Speaker 2: the name Piggy Muldoon? 698 00:33:20,493 --> 00:33:20,773 Speaker 18: How? No? 699 00:33:20,973 --> 00:33:24,733 Speaker 2: And I think if any male Piggy muldoon wasn't hardcore 700 00:33:25,413 --> 00:33:26,813 Speaker 2: mcdoughe that was rough, wasn't it? 701 00:33:26,933 --> 00:33:26,973 Speaker 18: That? 702 00:33:27,373 --> 00:33:28,413 Speaker 2: That was pretty full noise. 703 00:33:28,613 --> 00:33:31,333 Speaker 3: But if any any male politician was called crusher, I 704 00:33:31,373 --> 00:33:32,893 Speaker 3: think they'd take that as a marker pride. 705 00:33:32,933 --> 00:33:35,693 Speaker 2: Surely. Yeah, I wish people would call me crusher. Yeah, 706 00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:37,333 Speaker 2: I can call you crusher. I mean, I don't know, 707 00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,493 Speaker 2: did Judith. I didn't think Judith had a problem with 708 00:33:39,573 --> 00:33:40,213 Speaker 2: being called crusher? 709 00:33:40,253 --> 00:33:40,453 Speaker 10: Did she? 710 00:33:40,693 --> 00:33:40,813 Speaker 12: Well? 711 00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:43,853 Speaker 3: No, I mean the policy arguably did work there. If 712 00:33:43,893 --> 00:33:45,813 Speaker 3: she only crushed one car and it did act as 713 00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:48,173 Speaker 3: a deterrent for a long time, he could have say, well, 714 00:33:48,253 --> 00:33:50,693 Speaker 3: played and who would have thought Barry Soaper was the 715 00:33:50,773 --> 00:33:53,413 Speaker 3: man to come up with the Crushy Collins. 716 00:33:53,853 --> 00:33:57,093 Speaker 2: Judith Collins will get a knighthood this year mark my words, 717 00:33:57,253 --> 00:33:59,413 Speaker 2: says Tony, and I think that would be deserved. Twenty 718 00:33:59,453 --> 00:34:01,653 Speaker 2: four years and politics is a long time. That is 719 00:34:01,733 --> 00:34:04,453 Speaker 2: al of a lot of service. A rise, Lady Crusher. 720 00:34:05,773 --> 00:34:09,812 Speaker 2: My favorite moment from Collins is yet to come. Wow. Ah, 721 00:34:10,253 --> 00:34:16,053 Speaker 2: come on, text Tony japis Wow. The day she dies 722 00:34:16,413 --> 00:34:20,013 Speaker 2: it makes the world a better place. That's a dark text. 723 00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:22,652 Speaker 3: That is a very dark text, Tony, dark person, Tony, 724 00:34:22,693 --> 00:34:25,692 Speaker 3: You're in a dark place. Yeah, mate, I hope things 725 00:34:25,733 --> 00:34:26,333 Speaker 3: get better for you. 726 00:34:26,573 --> 00:34:30,773 Speaker 2: Wow, that's your favorite moment. It's truth, Tony. What should 727 00:34:30,773 --> 00:34:33,893 Speaker 2: be around for a long time? I imagine yes, right. 728 00:34:33,973 --> 00:34:35,732 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 729 00:34:35,733 --> 00:34:36,013 Speaker 2: to call. 730 00:34:36,093 --> 00:34:38,813 Speaker 3: Nine two nine to two is the text number your 731 00:34:38,853 --> 00:34:42,493 Speaker 3: favorite moments of Judith collins time as politician? And will 732 00:34:42,573 --> 00:34:45,773 Speaker 3: Parliament be worse off without the likes of her? Love 733 00:34:45,853 --> 00:34:48,093 Speaker 3: to hear from you beg fory shortly. It is ten 734 00:34:48,613 --> 00:34:49,013 Speaker 3: two to two. 735 00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:53,573 Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight 736 00:34:53,693 --> 00:34:55,013 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. 737 00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:59,893 Speaker 8: It's mad Heath and Tylor Adams afternoons News TALKSB, News 738 00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:00,533 Speaker 8: Talks B. 739 00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:03,613 Speaker 2: It is eight to two. Judith Collins was a guest 740 00:35:03,613 --> 00:35:05,733 Speaker 2: speecher and an event I went to. Didn't particularly like 741 00:35:05,813 --> 00:35:08,933 Speaker 2: her before the event due to TV new whose coverage, 742 00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:11,453 Speaker 2: et cetera. But she was very smart and personal and 743 00:35:11,613 --> 00:35:14,652 Speaker 2: has a wonderful sense of humor. Now I think she's 744 00:35:15,053 --> 00:35:18,933 Speaker 2: rather awesome. That happens a lot with politicians when you 745 00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,773 Speaker 2: meet them, and you know, just when you deal with 746 00:35:21,853 --> 00:35:25,733 Speaker 2: people personally, you realize the way they're portrayed in the 747 00:35:25,853 --> 00:35:29,933 Speaker 2: media is often you know, to shift units, get clicks, etc. 748 00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:33,373 Speaker 2: So true. This person says I had the privilege of 749 00:35:33,493 --> 00:35:36,053 Speaker 2: working with Judith on a graduate diploma for health and safety. 750 00:35:36,173 --> 00:35:38,933 Speaker 2: She took her roles very seriously and took on additional 751 00:35:39,013 --> 00:35:42,813 Speaker 2: tertiorary study to compliment her portfolios for revenue and taxation. 752 00:35:42,973 --> 00:35:46,013 Speaker 2: I respect her for her leadership, dedication and work to 753 00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:48,613 Speaker 2: make New Zealand about our place nice text. 754 00:35:48,693 --> 00:35:51,733 Speaker 3: She was clearly competent, no doubt about that. Now we 755 00:35:52,373 --> 00:35:54,813 Speaker 3: will play a little bit of her press conference, and 756 00:35:54,853 --> 00:35:56,973 Speaker 3: I think it was incredibly genuine what she was saying 757 00:35:56,973 --> 00:35:59,773 Speaker 3: clearly it's the end of her political career and retiring. 758 00:36:00,053 --> 00:36:01,693 Speaker 3: But here's what she said when she talked about the 759 00:36:01,813 --> 00:36:03,293 Speaker 3: highs and lows of her career. 760 00:36:03,613 --> 00:36:07,373 Speaker 7: Like a seriously big high as getting the Defense Capability 761 00:36:07,453 --> 00:36:12,133 Speaker 7: Plan through and working with coalition partners. One of the 762 00:36:12,173 --> 00:36:16,133 Speaker 7: other huge highs just recently is the top of the 763 00:36:16,253 --> 00:36:20,493 Speaker 7: South Settlement that had been going on for sixteen years 764 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:23,853 Speaker 7: of litigation and I got it done. I mean low's 765 00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:27,573 Speaker 7: were well. Twenty twenty election was pretty bad. Yeah, that 766 00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:31,373 Speaker 7: wasn't great, But the thing is that sometimes you just 767 00:36:31,453 --> 00:36:34,292 Speaker 7: got to step up when you want to run away 768 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:41,373 Speaker 7: from it. It's like, I've generally and genuinely really loved 769 00:36:41,693 --> 00:36:44,373 Speaker 7: my job, and I think you can probably tell. But 770 00:36:45,013 --> 00:36:47,293 Speaker 7: all good things have to come to an end. And 771 00:36:47,453 --> 00:36:51,773 Speaker 7: twenty four years, twelve years in opposition, twelve years in 772 00:36:51,893 --> 00:36:56,533 Speaker 7: government and eighteen portfolios I think count them up, goes 773 00:36:56,613 --> 00:36:58,253 Speaker 7: up to twenty if you count them twice and a 774 00:36:58,333 --> 00:36:58,773 Speaker 7: couple of them. 775 00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:01,733 Speaker 8: It's pretty cool. I am the mother of the House. 776 00:37:03,493 --> 00:37:07,172 Speaker 7: Like I say, that's quite aging. You know, Jerry Brown 777 00:37:07,333 --> 00:37:10,293 Speaker 7: is you know the father it sex platonic. I have 778 00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:14,453 Speaker 7: had eight elections in a row as an Electric member 779 00:37:14,493 --> 00:37:18,133 Speaker 7: of Parliament and every single time being elected, and my 780 00:37:18,293 --> 00:37:21,293 Speaker 7: majority has gone up and down and up again, and 781 00:37:21,493 --> 00:37:24,252 Speaker 7: you know it's like I feel like I've done my dash. 782 00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:28,013 Speaker 7: It's time for someone else to step in and take 783 00:37:28,093 --> 00:37:30,493 Speaker 7: over some of these roles and to have an opportunity. 784 00:37:31,733 --> 00:37:37,573 Speaker 2: Now there you go, fifteen total distinct ministerial portfolios. Yeah. Yeah, 785 00:37:37,813 --> 00:37:38,772 Speaker 2: an incredible career. 786 00:37:38,813 --> 00:37:41,133 Speaker 3: I'll go just sort of say quickly before the news 787 00:37:41,253 --> 00:37:44,373 Speaker 3: hits her being Minister of Defense, I think that will 788 00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:46,053 Speaker 3: be a massive part of her legacy. She talked about 789 00:37:46,093 --> 00:37:49,733 Speaker 3: the Defense Capability Plan, twelve billion dollars in defense investment 790 00:37:49,813 --> 00:37:52,213 Speaker 3: over the next four years, getting to that two percent GDP. 791 00:37:52,773 --> 00:37:55,093 Speaker 3: That will I mean, that's a massive investment in our 792 00:37:55,133 --> 00:37:57,333 Speaker 3: defense force and that will be foult for many decades. 793 00:37:57,653 --> 00:37:57,853 Speaker 19: Yeah. 794 00:37:57,893 --> 00:38:00,613 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But this says that chat with Barry was nauseating. 795 00:38:01,013 --> 00:38:04,573 Speaker 2: No mention of her relationship with Cameron Slater. Colin represents 796 00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:07,373 Speaker 2: a boomer mentality that's selfish and left little opportunity for 797 00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:10,692 Speaker 2: anyone under thirty. That's Chris Marklin. That's pretty agist from you, Chris. 798 00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:17,053 Speaker 2: Come on, cras to retirement day. Don't make sweeping statements 799 00:38:17,093 --> 00:38:20,652 Speaker 2: about people by things they can't control such as their age. Yes, 800 00:38:20,853 --> 00:38:21,493 Speaker 2: you're better than that. 801 00:38:21,773 --> 00:38:23,973 Speaker 3: That's a nice one there though, get a guys crusher 802 00:38:24,253 --> 00:38:27,133 Speaker 3: is a legend. Yes, she will be missed by me 803 00:38:27,413 --> 00:38:29,893 Speaker 3: at least and hopefully many other people as well. 804 00:38:30,253 --> 00:38:30,413 Speaker 8: Matt. 805 00:38:30,493 --> 00:38:33,453 Speaker 2: If a woman was named Piggy Muldoon, she'd be missed 806 00:38:33,493 --> 00:38:36,813 Speaker 2: Piggy Maldon. That's a good point. Yeah, it's very clever. Actually, yeah, 807 00:38:36,853 --> 00:38:39,253 Speaker 2: well plaid right, great discussion. 808 00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:42,212 Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who text and called on that one. 809 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:45,013 Speaker 3: So Judith Collins, of course, will retire midway through this 810 00:38:45,173 --> 00:38:47,213 Speaker 3: year to take up that new position as President of 811 00:38:47,413 --> 00:38:50,893 Speaker 3: the Law Commission. Coming up after two o'clock, we want 812 00:38:50,933 --> 00:38:53,613 Speaker 3: to talk about having your oe a little bit later 813 00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:57,133 Speaker 3: in life. This is after Eli Matheson, well non commedian 814 00:38:57,173 --> 00:38:59,933 Speaker 3: in New Zealand, he decided to leave with his partner 815 00:39:00,053 --> 00:39:02,453 Speaker 3: to London at the age of thirty seven. He mentioned 816 00:39:02,493 --> 00:39:05,093 Speaker 3: he didn't get that opportunity in his early twenties, so 817 00:39:05,213 --> 00:39:06,613 Speaker 3: now's the opportunity. 818 00:39:06,093 --> 00:39:06,693 Speaker 10: To go and do that. 819 00:39:06,853 --> 00:39:08,853 Speaker 3: If that's you, love to hear from you, oh eight 820 00:39:08,973 --> 00:39:12,133 Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two ninety two. Taking 821 00:39:12,213 --> 00:39:14,213 Speaker 3: your owe a little bit later in life, Love to 822 00:39:14,253 --> 00:39:17,293 Speaker 3: hear your stories, new sport and weather coming up. A 823 00:39:17,373 --> 00:39:19,652 Speaker 3: bit of hay U to go out with? Stay right 824 00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:23,533 Speaker 3: here and do you know that is just you? 825 00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:34,453 Speaker 2: Jemmy is on your shoulder. 826 00:39:42,613 --> 00:39:45,893 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor 827 00:39:45,973 --> 00:39:48,253 Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks. 828 00:39:48,293 --> 00:39:51,573 Speaker 3: It'd be a very good afternoons. Youre welcome back into 829 00:39:51,613 --> 00:39:52,973 Speaker 3: the show. Seven past two. 830 00:39:53,293 --> 00:39:55,733 Speaker 2: Do you ever get slugs in your bathroom? Tyler? I 831 00:39:55,853 --> 00:39:57,893 Speaker 2: haven't no nice slugs in my bathroom. I was just 832 00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:04,172 Speaker 2: in Parliament yesterday. Chloe Warbrick was saying that people, young 833 00:40:04,253 --> 00:40:07,853 Speaker 2: people suffering the hardship of having slugs in their bathroom 834 00:40:07,893 --> 00:40:10,613 Speaker 2: so many that they're giving them names. Oh cute. Yeah, 835 00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:13,692 Speaker 2: but wouldn't you just get rid of the slugs? I'm 836 00:40:13,693 --> 00:40:16,493 Speaker 2: pretty sure, Like I wouldn't call myself. I'm not suffering 837 00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:19,573 Speaker 2: any hardship, but we've had slugs in our bathroom. Yeah, 838 00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:23,093 Speaker 2: So I don't think having slugs in your bathroom as 839 00:40:24,013 --> 00:40:28,533 Speaker 2: really an indication of hardship, probably indication of leaving the 840 00:40:28,573 --> 00:40:30,813 Speaker 2: window open. It's a good point. How did they get 841 00:40:30,853 --> 00:40:31,373 Speaker 2: in there? Yeah? 842 00:40:31,413 --> 00:40:33,453 Speaker 3: I mean I've had a terrible problem with ants. What 843 00:40:33,573 --> 00:40:35,573 Speaker 3: do I do just spray the hell out of them. Yeah, 844 00:40:35,853 --> 00:40:37,493 Speaker 3: it's lay down some ant bait. 845 00:40:37,813 --> 00:40:40,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting approach to it to 846 00:40:41,333 --> 00:40:45,213 Speaker 2: see slugs and spend the time giving them names, but 847 00:40:45,373 --> 00:40:50,053 Speaker 2: not spend the time picking them up. I'll call you sneezy. Also, 848 00:40:50,693 --> 00:40:51,973 Speaker 2: is that the end of the world having a slug 849 00:40:52,013 --> 00:40:53,893 Speaker 2: in the bathroom? Like, I mean, what does a slug 850 00:40:53,933 --> 00:40:56,133 Speaker 2: in the bathroom do? I mean, cockroaches in the kitchen 851 00:40:56,173 --> 00:40:58,573 Speaker 2: are one thing. You got to deal with. Cockroaches in 852 00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:01,013 Speaker 2: the kitchen, you do. Slugs in the bathroom, Rats in 853 00:41:01,053 --> 00:41:03,373 Speaker 2: the kitchen bad. Yeah, you don't want rats in your 854 00:41:03,413 --> 00:41:05,293 Speaker 2: house at all. Is a rat in the kitchen? What 855 00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:06,853 Speaker 2: we're going to do. We're going to feast on rat, 856 00:41:06,893 --> 00:41:08,853 Speaker 2: That's what we're going to do. I mean, slugs in 857 00:41:08,853 --> 00:41:10,133 Speaker 2: the bathroom. What we're going to do. We're going to 858 00:41:10,213 --> 00:41:12,533 Speaker 2: name those slugs. What we're going to do. 859 00:41:12,653 --> 00:41:13,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know you're not going to get an 860 00:41:13,893 --> 00:41:16,013 Speaker 3: infestation of slugs if there's a couple of slugs in 861 00:41:16,013 --> 00:41:17,933 Speaker 3: the bathroom unless you want to do like Chloe did 862 00:41:17,973 --> 00:41:19,453 Speaker 3: and name them and call them pets. 863 00:41:19,573 --> 00:41:21,813 Speaker 2: I don't think she to be fair. She was just 864 00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:24,293 Speaker 2: saying that young people in New Zealand are suffering such 865 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,732 Speaker 2: hardship that there's slugs coming into their bathroom and they're 866 00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,853 Speaker 2: having to name them. There's so many of them, right, Okay, 867 00:41:29,013 --> 00:41:30,933 Speaker 2: but how many slugs would there have to be in 868 00:41:31,013 --> 00:41:32,973 Speaker 2: your bathroom the bathroom that there were so many that 869 00:41:33,053 --> 00:41:37,373 Speaker 2: you had to name them? Like I think, I think 870 00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:39,573 Speaker 2: I could get rid of a hundred slugs in my 871 00:41:39,693 --> 00:41:43,652 Speaker 2: bathroom in under five minutes, flush them straight down the drain. 872 00:41:43,773 --> 00:41:46,212 Speaker 2: But naming one hundred slugs that could take me two days. 873 00:41:46,293 --> 00:41:47,933 Speaker 3: And how do you tell the difference between a slug? 874 00:41:48,493 --> 00:41:49,893 Speaker 3: You know, as soon as you name it and it 875 00:41:49,973 --> 00:41:51,773 Speaker 3: gets back into the group with the other twenty slugs 876 00:41:51,773 --> 00:41:53,773 Speaker 3: you're going to have, which one did I call Jack? 877 00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:54,053 Speaker 6: Again? 878 00:41:54,173 --> 00:41:54,413 Speaker 20: Wow? 879 00:41:54,693 --> 00:41:56,893 Speaker 2: Slugs are quite slow moving, so you could probably go 880 00:41:57,013 --> 00:42:01,533 Speaker 2: around and name them and hopefully number one hundred hasn't 881 00:42:01,613 --> 00:42:04,853 Speaker 2: moved too far, you know, by the time you name 882 00:42:05,213 --> 00:42:07,173 Speaker 2: you know number one has moved too par by the 883 00:42:07,213 --> 00:42:08,813 Speaker 2: time you get to number hundred. But it is an 884 00:42:08,893 --> 00:42:11,133 Speaker 2: interesting thing. But because now I'm not worried if I've 885 00:42:11,173 --> 00:42:13,493 Speaker 2: got hardship, because we've found slugs now, both of them 886 00:42:13,493 --> 00:42:15,973 Speaker 2: before And what did you do just get rid of him? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, 887 00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:20,213 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm suffering terrible hardship. Maybe I need some 888 00:42:20,253 --> 00:42:23,893 Speaker 2: sympathy slug problem. Yeah, right onto this topic. That's going 889 00:42:23,933 --> 00:42:24,413 Speaker 2: to be a good one. 890 00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:26,093 Speaker 3: So we want to talk about taking an OI later 891 00:42:26,173 --> 00:42:30,133 Speaker 3: in life. This is after a story that involved Eli Matheson, 892 00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:33,333 Speaker 3: well known comedian in New Zealand. So he is currently 893 00:42:33,373 --> 00:42:35,333 Speaker 3: living in London with his partner at the age of 894 00:42:35,533 --> 00:42:38,933 Speaker 3: thirty seven, and he mentioned in the article really missus 895 00:42:38,933 --> 00:42:42,173 Speaker 3: Auckland life. They asked him say what was Auckland life alike? 896 00:42:42,373 --> 00:42:43,933 Speaker 3: Out of ten and he said nine out of ten. 897 00:42:44,373 --> 00:42:47,573 Speaker 3: Fantastic city, good people's, good vibe, had a really good 898 00:42:47,613 --> 00:42:50,013 Speaker 3: time here. But he said they were getting a little 899 00:42:50,013 --> 00:42:54,213 Speaker 3: bit older thirty seven, and hadn't so old so old, 900 00:42:54,613 --> 00:42:58,013 Speaker 3: hadn't really had the oe overseas experience when he was 901 00:42:58,053 --> 00:43:01,893 Speaker 3: in his twenties, So now was the appropriate time that 902 00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:05,333 Speaker 3: things were pretty settled in New Zealand life. They've got 903 00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:07,893 Speaker 3: a few ducks lined up. Now was the opportunity. If 904 00:43:07,893 --> 00:43:10,013 Speaker 3: they ever going to do it, they need to do it, 905 00:43:10,133 --> 00:43:12,693 Speaker 3: so base themselves in London, and as people who go 906 00:43:12,813 --> 00:43:14,933 Speaker 3: over their know that is not a bad place to 907 00:43:14,973 --> 00:43:15,493 Speaker 3: base yourself. 908 00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:17,093 Speaker 2: Pretty close to Europe. Pretty close to. 909 00:43:17,173 --> 00:43:19,172 Speaker 3: Spain, right in the middle of London. Yeah, a great 910 00:43:19,173 --> 00:43:22,373 Speaker 3: place to be. Yeah yeah, pretty close to Greece. But 911 00:43:22,493 --> 00:43:24,573 Speaker 3: it is an interesting take. So king to have a 912 00:43:24,653 --> 00:43:28,732 Speaker 3: chat with you about taking an overseas experience later in life. 913 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:31,133 Speaker 3: When is the best time in life to actually do 914 00:43:31,373 --> 00:43:33,253 Speaker 3: the OE. A lot of people traditionally do it in 915 00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:35,933 Speaker 3: their twenties, and I'm sure that's a fantastic experience. 916 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:39,013 Speaker 2: I never did a proper OE. I think you did, Matt, 917 00:43:39,053 --> 00:43:41,573 Speaker 2: didn't you You had a proper I never did an OE. 918 00:43:41,693 --> 00:43:43,732 Speaker 2: I always when I got I got jobs over there, 919 00:43:43,773 --> 00:43:45,973 Speaker 2: and then I'd be flowing over to do work over 920 00:43:46,053 --> 00:43:48,413 Speaker 2: there for periods of time. I think the longest period 921 00:43:48,413 --> 00:43:50,573 Speaker 2: of time I spent in London was working on a 922 00:43:50,653 --> 00:43:52,533 Speaker 2: stunt show called Balls of Steel and I was there 923 00:43:52,573 --> 00:43:54,773 Speaker 2: for eight months. Great show. Yeah, But so I never 924 00:43:54,853 --> 00:43:57,133 Speaker 2: did the OE. I never like shifted fully. I was 925 00:43:57,173 --> 00:43:59,732 Speaker 2: accommodated by the companies I was working for and such, 926 00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:01,773 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's a bit different than 927 00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:03,893 Speaker 2: going I'm going to do it. So working holiday youth 928 00:44:04,013 --> 00:44:07,773 Speaker 2: Mobility scheme as Vella for three years for New Zealander's 929 00:44:07,773 --> 00:44:10,133 Speaker 2: Aged eight team to thirty five, allowing you to live, 930 00:44:10,213 --> 00:44:12,252 Speaker 2: work and travel in the UK. So if you're thirty 931 00:44:12,293 --> 00:44:14,133 Speaker 2: seven then you're outside of that, right, you can't get 932 00:44:14,173 --> 00:44:16,053 Speaker 2: the three years work situation. 933 00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:18,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes working a lot harder. So I suppose 934 00:44:18,413 --> 00:44:19,813 Speaker 3: you've got to save a bit more money if you 935 00:44:19,893 --> 00:44:23,093 Speaker 3: want to do that. But the more I read that story, 936 00:44:23,133 --> 00:44:26,373 Speaker 3: the more I thought, actually, that's probably the prime time 937 00:44:26,453 --> 00:44:28,573 Speaker 3: to go and do those things. Maybe not even your thirties, 938 00:44:28,613 --> 00:44:30,773 Speaker 3: maybe even your forties and fifties. Yes, you can have 939 00:44:30,813 --> 00:44:33,133 Speaker 3: a great time when you're in your twenties, but you 940 00:44:33,253 --> 00:44:34,893 Speaker 3: do it poor. You might be working and having a 941 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:38,133 Speaker 3: fantastic time and doing all these wonderful experiences as you 942 00:44:38,213 --> 00:44:42,013 Speaker 3: can do at that age. But then when you hit forty, fifty, 943 00:44:42,293 --> 00:44:46,133 Speaker 3: even sixty, you've still got enough vitality, You've got hopefully 944 00:44:46,173 --> 00:44:49,333 Speaker 3: a bit of money behind you, You've accomplished some things 945 00:44:49,373 --> 00:44:51,373 Speaker 3: in life that at that point you can go and 946 00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:54,093 Speaker 3: experience parts of the world you've never seen and get 947 00:44:54,133 --> 00:44:54,613 Speaker 3: the most. 948 00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:54,733 Speaker 6: Out of it. 949 00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:58,373 Speaker 2: It's the time money, health triumvirent, isn't it. Yeah, So 950 00:44:58,573 --> 00:45:00,813 Speaker 2: when you're young, you have a lot of time your health, 951 00:45:00,893 --> 00:45:04,453 Speaker 2: but no money. When you're older, you can have a 952 00:45:04,493 --> 00:45:07,253 Speaker 2: lot of time and money potentially when you retire, but 953 00:45:07,373 --> 00:45:10,812 Speaker 2: no health, well potentially your health is you know United, 954 00:45:11,213 --> 00:45:13,293 Speaker 2: You know you can. It's sixty five. You've got plenty 955 00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:14,853 Speaker 2: of health, but you might not be able to rip 956 00:45:14,893 --> 00:45:16,533 Speaker 2: it up as much in London as you could have 957 00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:19,613 Speaker 2: when you were when you were younger. Very true. So 958 00:45:19,813 --> 00:45:23,333 Speaker 2: maybe you know an OE at thirty seven forty that 959 00:45:23,453 --> 00:45:27,013 Speaker 2: kind of thing. You might have both time, money and health, 960 00:45:27,253 --> 00:45:29,933 Speaker 2: mon't you? Who has time when they're well in your 961 00:45:29,973 --> 00:45:33,093 Speaker 2: thirties and forties? You just your career is just taking 962 00:45:33,133 --> 00:45:35,293 Speaker 2: on all all encompassing, isn't it. Yeah? 963 00:45:35,453 --> 00:45:37,813 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 964 00:45:37,893 --> 00:45:40,453 Speaker 3: call if you have, at the age of forty fifty 965 00:45:40,533 --> 00:45:44,373 Speaker 3: sixty decided to hang up the job for a year 966 00:45:44,653 --> 00:45:46,453 Speaker 3: or a couple of years and go on and overseas 967 00:45:46,493 --> 00:45:49,373 Speaker 3: experience love to hear from you what was well, what 968 00:45:49,573 --> 00:45:51,573 Speaker 3: made you make that decision? And what ducks did you 969 00:45:51,653 --> 00:45:53,172 Speaker 3: have to get lined up? Really can have a chat 970 00:45:53,213 --> 00:45:54,813 Speaker 3: with you. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 971 00:45:54,773 --> 00:45:56,293 Speaker 2: Or are you planning to have your oe? 972 00:45:57,013 --> 00:46:00,493 Speaker 3: It's sixty five, Yeah, it is thirteen past too. I 973 00:46:00,573 --> 00:46:02,733 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call 974 00:46:02,813 --> 00:46:04,853 Speaker 3: back very shortly. You're listening to Matton Tyler. Have you 975 00:46:04,893 --> 00:46:06,053 Speaker 3: having a good afternoon. 976 00:46:07,253 --> 00:46:10,533 Speaker 1: Your home of it's noon Talk mad Heathen, Taylor Adams 977 00:46:10,693 --> 00:46:14,773 Speaker 1: afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said. 978 00:46:14,573 --> 00:46:14,652 Speaker 18: Be. 979 00:46:16,293 --> 00:46:19,893 Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. It is a quarter past two. Plenty 980 00:46:19,893 --> 00:46:21,373 Speaker 3: of texts coming through on nineteen nine two. 981 00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:23,212 Speaker 2: If you have slugs in the bathroom, it's because it's 982 00:46:23,293 --> 00:46:25,053 Speaker 2: very weird outside. Spray the side of your house with 983 00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:27,773 Speaker 2: something caustic and problem solved. I had slugs in the 984 00:46:27,813 --> 00:46:30,533 Speaker 2: bathroom and coming into the kitchen because the windows are 985 00:46:30,613 --> 00:46:32,613 Speaker 2: on the same side of the house. No slugs since, 986 00:46:33,533 --> 00:46:36,533 Speaker 2: never named them, just liberated them. Yeah, I can't tell 987 00:46:36,573 --> 00:46:38,413 Speaker 2: I'm one of these softies. But this is going on 988 00:46:38,533 --> 00:46:41,973 Speaker 2: to Chloe s Warbrick in Parliament saying that people have 989 00:46:42,053 --> 00:46:43,813 Speaker 2: got the hardship is so bad that people got so 990 00:46:43,853 --> 00:46:45,813 Speaker 2: many slugs in the bathrooms that they having to name them. Yep, 991 00:46:46,293 --> 00:46:49,293 Speaker 2: I've had slugs in my bathroom. I don't believe that 992 00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:52,293 Speaker 2: I'm suffering any hardship in this will, but I will 993 00:46:52,373 --> 00:46:56,813 Speaker 2: say that I am the kind of pathetic soft person 994 00:46:57,053 --> 00:46:59,093 Speaker 2: that will pick up a slug and not only take 995 00:46:59,133 --> 00:47:02,053 Speaker 2: it outside, but put it somewhere where it's safe from 996 00:47:02,173 --> 00:47:04,172 Speaker 2: birds getting it. Oh, you're kidding me. So I won't 997 00:47:04,213 --> 00:47:07,093 Speaker 2: name them, Yeah, but I will individually take the slugs outside. 998 00:47:07,373 --> 00:47:08,973 Speaker 2: What's wrong with this's just going to come back in. 999 00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:13,772 Speaker 2: I take them. I take them ten meters from the bathroom. Okay, 1000 00:47:13,853 --> 00:47:15,573 Speaker 2: we'll take them, well, we will. It will take them 1001 00:47:15,573 --> 00:47:17,373 Speaker 2: about six months, but they'll come back in. They'll go. 1002 00:47:18,013 --> 00:47:20,253 Speaker 2: Bugger you man, I'll be coming back in. Let's go. 1003 00:47:20,693 --> 00:47:23,213 Speaker 2: This guy's soft. Yeah, yeah, we can. We can do 1004 00:47:23,253 --> 00:47:26,373 Speaker 2: what we want here. He's soft on slugs on the kitchen. 1005 00:47:26,413 --> 00:47:28,653 Speaker 3: I'll see you in six months. Oh, one hundred and 1006 00:47:28,653 --> 00:47:31,652 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. We are talking about overseas experiences. When 1007 00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:33,613 Speaker 3: is the best time to do an oe? 1008 00:47:34,253 --> 00:47:39,213 Speaker 2: Get Amory? Hey, how are you very good? So at 1009 00:47:39,253 --> 00:47:41,173 Speaker 2: what age did you do your overseas experience? 1010 00:47:42,213 --> 00:47:42,253 Speaker 16: So? 1011 00:47:42,933 --> 00:47:49,333 Speaker 14: Twenty four? Sorry not age forty nine eight twenty twenty four. 1012 00:47:49,493 --> 00:47:53,093 Speaker 14: My partner Mike and I we set off for Europe 1013 00:47:53,173 --> 00:47:57,413 Speaker 14: for a nine month early midlife OI that is, and 1014 00:47:58,173 --> 00:48:01,853 Speaker 14: so we didn't have any jobs. We paid cash. We've 1015 00:48:01,853 --> 00:48:04,573 Speaker 14: paid off for a mortgage about five years previously, and 1016 00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:09,973 Speaker 14: we just had a ball. It was yeah, definitely, because 1017 00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:13,213 Speaker 14: you don't want to be doing that kind of hardcore 1018 00:48:13,733 --> 00:48:18,933 Speaker 14: midlife travel. We did thirteen countries. We did them really well, 1019 00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:20,652 Speaker 14: but you don't want to be doing I don't want 1020 00:48:20,653 --> 00:48:22,173 Speaker 14: to be doing that in my seventies. I want to 1021 00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:24,773 Speaker 14: be able to go up and down the towers reasonably 1022 00:48:24,933 --> 00:48:28,493 Speaker 14: fit and enjoying it rather than you know, a deiactric 1023 00:48:28,613 --> 00:48:31,493 Speaker 14: and my no no issue about being directed. But I 1024 00:48:31,613 --> 00:48:34,293 Speaker 14: felt as though we got to experience it a lot 1025 00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:38,212 Speaker 14: better because we were fit and we're at the right age. 1026 00:48:38,333 --> 00:48:40,413 Speaker 2: So you had it right in the middle of the 1027 00:48:40,493 --> 00:48:44,133 Speaker 2: time money and health situation in your life. 1028 00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:47,533 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah exactly. I mean absolute midlife oe 1029 00:48:48,733 --> 00:48:51,293 Speaker 14: for us. You know, we've worked hard in our careers. 1030 00:48:51,413 --> 00:48:55,453 Speaker 14: We actually, you know, we've done reasonably well, but we 1031 00:48:55,573 --> 00:49:01,493 Speaker 14: didn't have to, you know, rely on a job type thing. 1032 00:49:01,853 --> 00:49:04,613 Speaker 14: We rented our houses out, we put the dog and 1033 00:49:04,853 --> 00:49:07,773 Speaker 14: dog dayk across us about ten grand, but we went 1034 00:49:08,333 --> 00:49:11,252 Speaker 14: and we did it, and we did it because we think, 1035 00:49:11,493 --> 00:49:13,973 Speaker 14: you know, something happened to either of us, and usually 1036 00:49:14,013 --> 00:49:16,413 Speaker 14: things like that the bad news comes after your fifties. 1037 00:49:16,693 --> 00:49:19,293 Speaker 14: We want to say that we did what we did together, 1038 00:49:19,653 --> 00:49:24,053 Speaker 14: and those experiences were amazing, beautiful. Y. Yeah, I think 1039 00:49:24,093 --> 00:49:26,813 Speaker 14: you just applause and ploor people to do it. You know, 1040 00:49:27,293 --> 00:49:28,613 Speaker 14: it's a good relationship tester. 1041 00:49:28,733 --> 00:49:30,413 Speaker 18: But you know we came out stronger. 1042 00:49:31,773 --> 00:49:35,573 Speaker 2: A couple of questions on this. Firstly, how did your 1043 00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:37,733 Speaker 2: dog react when you got back after nine months? 1044 00:49:37,893 --> 00:49:41,333 Speaker 14: Oh my god, I got many instagram you know, so 1045 00:49:41,493 --> 00:49:46,413 Speaker 14: I documented ults on Instagram. But also it's because of 1046 00:49:46,533 --> 00:49:48,973 Speaker 14: family and friends while we're away, and you don't want 1047 00:49:49,013 --> 00:49:51,333 Speaker 14: to miss those memories because it's so you know, it's 1048 00:49:51,373 --> 00:49:54,453 Speaker 14: so much to take and pack in. But yeah, it 1049 00:49:54,573 --> 00:49:57,733 Speaker 14: was epic. It was epic, but look, it was worth it. 1050 00:49:58,293 --> 00:50:01,253 Speaker 14: You know, we're back to working. We're working together now 1051 00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:03,853 Speaker 14: we own a business. So that sort of came out 1052 00:50:03,893 --> 00:50:07,373 Speaker 14: of the whole midlife are we for us? It really 1053 00:50:07,453 --> 00:50:10,253 Speaker 14: makes you think about life and what's important. And when 1054 00:50:10,293 --> 00:50:12,652 Speaker 14: you don't have get and you don't have this big 1055 00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:15,853 Speaker 14: mortgage over your head, you don't actually need to earn more. 1056 00:50:16,373 --> 00:50:19,053 Speaker 14: So we're really happy. So I think if you're on 1057 00:50:19,133 --> 00:50:21,773 Speaker 14: the edge, if you're thinking about it and you can 1058 00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:22,413 Speaker 14: do it, do it. 1059 00:50:22,853 --> 00:50:23,573 Speaker 19: So did you you? 1060 00:50:23,893 --> 00:50:27,053 Speaker 2: Did you and your husband get sabbaticals from work that 1061 00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:28,933 Speaker 2: you went back to the same job retired. 1062 00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:31,413 Speaker 14: He's a little bit older than me, so he retired 1063 00:50:31,453 --> 00:50:34,613 Speaker 14: about five years prior and I was on doing some 1064 00:50:34,893 --> 00:50:38,133 Speaker 14: contract consultancy work I did. I picked up a contract 1065 00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:40,853 Speaker 14: while I was away in Valencia. Somebody wanted me to 1066 00:50:41,173 --> 00:50:45,133 Speaker 14: do a job for them. But yeah, so we were Yeah, 1067 00:50:45,293 --> 00:50:51,772 Speaker 14: we're unemployed, midlifers. Well, packing five and b's. We stayed 1068 00:50:51,813 --> 00:50:54,093 Speaker 14: and it was pretty hardcore, but you need to do 1069 00:50:54,213 --> 00:50:55,373 Speaker 14: it at a good age. 1070 00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:58,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you go hard in your early twenties? So 1071 00:50:58,173 --> 00:50:59,853 Speaker 2: because you didn't do an oe in your twenties, is 1072 00:50:59,893 --> 00:51:03,213 Speaker 2: that creat No? Did you just go hard from like 1073 00:51:03,413 --> 00:51:06,093 Speaker 2: school right up until you were forty nine type thing? 1074 00:51:07,413 --> 00:51:11,013 Speaker 14: Yeah, but we were we were quite quite, quite careful 1075 00:51:11,053 --> 00:51:14,213 Speaker 14: about our money. We were diligent with our money and. 1076 00:51:14,373 --> 00:51:15,813 Speaker 13: We were yeah. 1077 00:51:16,013 --> 00:51:18,933 Speaker 2: So so yeah, what was the best place you went to, 1078 00:51:19,093 --> 00:51:20,333 Speaker 2: Marie Trance? 1079 00:51:20,413 --> 00:51:22,813 Speaker 14: Oh, my gosh, I love France. We were in France 1080 00:51:22,893 --> 00:51:26,813 Speaker 14: for about six and a half weeks. Love France. The 1081 00:51:26,933 --> 00:51:30,413 Speaker 14: French people are beautiful, food everything. I'll go back again. 1082 00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:33,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, good food. What's that place in Valencia that looks 1083 00:51:34,013 --> 00:51:35,893 Speaker 2: like the Sydney Opera House? 1084 00:51:38,493 --> 00:51:40,493 Speaker 14: Uh, let's familiar? 1085 00:51:41,093 --> 00:51:41,253 Speaker 10: Oh? 1086 00:51:41,573 --> 00:51:44,973 Speaker 2: Very good. Valencia just looks so phenomenal. 1087 00:51:45,093 --> 00:51:47,573 Speaker 14: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, No I don't know Valencia. 1088 00:51:48,413 --> 00:51:53,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like it's around some water. It surrounds 1089 00:51:54,053 --> 00:51:55,213 Speaker 2: water and it kind of looks. 1090 00:51:55,093 --> 00:51:56,172 Speaker 14: Like the fountains in the front. 1091 00:51:56,253 --> 00:51:56,453 Speaker 18: Yeah. 1092 00:51:56,653 --> 00:51:57,533 Speaker 14: Sorry, yeah, that's. 1093 00:51:57,373 --> 00:51:59,573 Speaker 6: Spain, is it? 1094 00:51:59,693 --> 00:52:04,692 Speaker 2: The pillow delay arts arena Sophia could be right. 1095 00:52:08,093 --> 00:52:11,053 Speaker 14: It's angry as yeah, yeah good, how good? 1096 00:52:11,293 --> 00:52:13,893 Speaker 3: I mean even the name Valencia, it's just I mean 1097 00:52:14,173 --> 00:52:15,733 Speaker 3: everything about it just screams beauty. 1098 00:52:16,413 --> 00:52:17,253 Speaker 6: Yeah it is. 1099 00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:18,973 Speaker 14: Yeah, no, it was awesome. 1100 00:52:19,093 --> 00:52:21,533 Speaker 21: Yeah yeah, yeah, so love it. 1101 00:52:21,653 --> 00:52:23,453 Speaker 2: Marie, thank you very much for giving us a bush. 1102 00:52:23,453 --> 00:52:25,093 Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1103 00:52:25,133 --> 00:52:27,933 Speaker 3: to call if you, like Marie, did your overseas experience 1104 00:52:27,973 --> 00:52:29,413 Speaker 3: a little bit later in life. 1105 00:52:29,493 --> 00:52:31,893 Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. It is twenty two past two, 1106 00:52:32,533 --> 00:52:35,732 Speaker 2: being very shortly, and keep those slug stuff coming through 1107 00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:37,533 Speaker 2: a lot of people have lost respect that I don't 1108 00:52:37,573 --> 00:52:40,773 Speaker 2: just kill the slugs. Just kill a man, will you? 1109 00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:42,732 Speaker 2: Will you stand on a snail? I will not stand 1110 00:52:42,733 --> 00:52:44,652 Speaker 2: on a really I had to because they were they 1111 00:52:44,693 --> 00:52:48,133 Speaker 2: were attacking my garden. Yes, this horror show of the 1112 00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:51,573 Speaker 2: shell breaking and going through the slug I can't. I 1113 00:52:51,653 --> 00:52:54,253 Speaker 2: can't take it. It hurt my soul, not as much 1114 00:52:54,253 --> 00:52:56,093 Speaker 2: as it hurt the snail. But it's got to be done. 1115 00:52:56,173 --> 00:52:56,293 Speaker 12: Man. 1116 00:52:56,413 --> 00:52:58,813 Speaker 2: They just go after the garden and they kill everything. 1117 00:52:58,893 --> 00:53:00,933 Speaker 2: And look, really, you're a monster. What are you going 1118 00:53:01,013 --> 00:53:03,613 Speaker 2: to do with a snail? It is twenty two parts too. 1119 00:53:07,373 --> 00:53:08,773 Speaker 8: Mad Heathen Adams. 1120 00:53:08,853 --> 00:53:11,693 Speaker 1: Afternoons call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on 1121 00:53:11,893 --> 00:53:12,733 Speaker 1: News TALKSB. 1122 00:53:13,893 --> 00:53:14,853 Speaker 2: News TALKSB. 1123 00:53:14,973 --> 00:53:17,773 Speaker 3: It is twenty four past too, and we are discussing 1124 00:53:17,853 --> 00:53:20,453 Speaker 3: take in and owe overseas experience a little bit later 1125 00:53:20,653 --> 00:53:23,333 Speaker 3: in life on the back of Eli Methison, well known comedian, 1126 00:53:23,973 --> 00:53:25,812 Speaker 3: deciding to do that at the age of thirty seven. 1127 00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:27,812 Speaker 2: So love to hear from you. One to eight hundred 1128 00:53:27,813 --> 00:53:30,693 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. Side topic slugs. Yeah, we have 1129 00:53:30,733 --> 00:53:33,373 Speaker 2: a slug in our bathroom. We call them Trevor. Oh nice, 1130 00:53:33,773 --> 00:53:38,453 Speaker 2: you're a monster for throwing them outside. Yeah, all right, 1131 00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:40,733 Speaker 2: because most people are saying that they've lost respect for 1132 00:53:40,813 --> 00:53:43,453 Speaker 2: me because I'll save a slug, the slug in my bathroom. 1133 00:53:43,533 --> 00:53:47,413 Speaker 2: I'll I'll take them, put them somewhere safe from the birdies. 1134 00:53:47,773 --> 00:53:50,253 Speaker 2: You're doing the water because you say you sum them 1135 00:53:50,293 --> 00:53:51,773 Speaker 2: what about a worm do you put it? If you 1136 00:53:51,813 --> 00:53:53,853 Speaker 2: find a worm on the road, do you pick it 1137 00:53:53,973 --> 00:53:57,293 Speaker 2: up and put it somewhere where it can snuggle its 1138 00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:59,653 Speaker 2: way back into the into the ground or did you 1139 00:53:59,733 --> 00:54:02,613 Speaker 2: just leave it there to burn in the sun and 1140 00:54:02,733 --> 00:54:03,093 Speaker 2: dry up. 1141 00:54:03,213 --> 00:54:05,733 Speaker 3: That's interesting, Actually, I'd save a worm. I'd save a worm, 1142 00:54:06,053 --> 00:54:09,893 Speaker 3: a bee, smashes, naile, squash, a slug. 1143 00:54:10,573 --> 00:54:10,973 Speaker 6: What else? 1144 00:54:11,373 --> 00:54:17,213 Speaker 2: I'd save the lady bird, kilourette, Killaurette. I'll kill aurette. Steve, 1145 00:54:17,293 --> 00:54:17,893 Speaker 2: how are you mate? 1146 00:54:18,893 --> 00:54:24,373 Speaker 6: Good thing? Got paid to over see the experiences. The 1147 00:54:24,453 --> 00:54:27,973 Speaker 6: first one was the failure. I didn't get it very far. 1148 00:54:28,173 --> 00:54:31,573 Speaker 6: I've got to Australia doing some money. But two years 1149 00:54:31,653 --> 00:54:33,573 Speaker 6: later I was still in Australia surfing and. 1150 00:54:35,413 --> 00:54:38,333 Speaker 2: Nice. That sounds all right, that's a good life. 1151 00:54:39,373 --> 00:54:41,973 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was at eighteen, but it wasn't the future. 1152 00:54:42,013 --> 00:54:43,853 Speaker 6: So I went back to New Zealand, got an education, 1153 00:54:45,173 --> 00:54:48,933 Speaker 6: got a job, got a career, paid mortgage of eich, 1154 00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:53,733 Speaker 6: saved some money with by mean the wife. We headed 1155 00:54:53,773 --> 00:54:58,053 Speaker 6: over to Europe for four months or so, and because 1156 00:54:58,053 --> 00:55:00,933 Speaker 6: we're all like later in life of Bot, we did 1157 00:55:01,053 --> 00:55:05,772 Speaker 6: three with casted spind So we did it the nice 1158 00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:10,533 Speaker 6: comfortable way, business class and we decided to get married, 1159 00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:12,333 Speaker 6: and the whole town hall and pride. 1160 00:55:12,693 --> 00:55:12,933 Speaker 4: Wow. 1161 00:55:13,973 --> 00:55:15,613 Speaker 9: So it was the. 1162 00:55:17,133 --> 00:55:22,453 Speaker 6: Stuff was between and flower in Australia and twenty quick 1163 00:55:22,533 --> 00:55:23,973 Speaker 6: to your name was quite different. 1164 00:55:24,133 --> 00:55:26,453 Speaker 2: So so when you say later in life, Steve, what 1165 00:55:26,573 --> 00:55:28,573 Speaker 2: what age were you when you went over and did this? 1166 00:55:28,653 --> 00:55:30,772 Speaker 6: So you sety nine? 1167 00:55:30,973 --> 00:55:32,453 Speaker 2: I see that because a lot of people say that's 1168 00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:34,973 Speaker 2: not later in life. And and if you were cashed 1169 00:55:35,053 --> 00:55:36,933 Speaker 2: up by then, you you've done pretty well. And you 1170 00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,253 Speaker 2: and you're once you got back from your surfing up 1171 00:55:39,293 --> 00:55:42,413 Speaker 2: and towards to to you hit that the late thirties. 1172 00:55:43,333 --> 00:55:47,252 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was a finance banker and my wife 1173 00:55:47,373 --> 00:55:51,093 Speaker 6: was a chartered accountant, so the smartest money, I think 1174 00:55:51,133 --> 00:55:55,133 Speaker 6: than Joe average. So I managed to any place you 1175 00:55:55,653 --> 00:55:59,172 Speaker 6: met later in life, no children, thirt like a few 1176 00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:02,732 Speaker 6: hundred thousand, and then a couple of years, cover of years, 1177 00:56:02,733 --> 00:56:06,013 Speaker 6: favor book COVID with the simier thing in the week 1178 00:56:06,093 --> 00:56:08,573 Speaker 6: we're going to have any three months and over the 1179 00:56:08,693 --> 00:56:12,732 Speaker 6: round again the high life, and off to Europe later 1180 00:56:12,813 --> 00:56:16,133 Speaker 6: this year for a couple of months. So it's sort 1181 00:56:16,173 --> 00:56:19,893 Speaker 6: of yeah, it's different. Fun when you went as a 1182 00:56:20,013 --> 00:56:22,373 Speaker 6: teenager and your and your bone into your butt and 1183 00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:24,613 Speaker 6: you did a KENTICKI and all that kind of stuff. 1184 00:56:24,653 --> 00:56:28,613 Speaker 6: But yeah, two different experiences. As I say, Australia was 1185 00:56:29,573 --> 00:56:32,893 Speaker 6: there surfing and from might say the rest, but in 1186 00:56:33,293 --> 00:56:37,093 Speaker 6: Europe and network was a bit more refined. So and 1187 00:56:37,893 --> 00:56:42,253 Speaker 6: I like both experiences. We of course different reasons. 1188 00:56:42,973 --> 00:56:45,773 Speaker 2: Did you leave your job to take this trip or 1189 00:56:46,013 --> 00:56:48,053 Speaker 2: did you get a sabbatical from it or leave and 1190 00:56:48,173 --> 00:56:48,733 Speaker 2: come back to it? 1191 00:56:48,893 --> 00:56:53,573 Speaker 6: Kind of thing combination, long long, serious sleeve. Been with 1192 00:56:53,733 --> 00:56:56,133 Speaker 6: the institution for a while, I'll call it the institution 1193 00:56:56,693 --> 00:57:00,173 Speaker 6: thirty three years this year next month, So yeah, it 1194 00:57:00,253 --> 00:57:02,133 Speaker 6: could have murder coupled people and be out on parole 1195 00:57:02,173 --> 00:57:07,293 Speaker 6: by now. Don't want to leave in the holidays. 1196 00:57:06,853 --> 00:57:08,373 Speaker 10: And which I think we're both. 1197 00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,333 Speaker 6: Sixt week's, four weeks and leagues, et cetera. 1198 00:57:12,973 --> 00:57:14,853 Speaker 3: Did you live the high life at the age of 1199 00:57:14,893 --> 00:57:16,373 Speaker 3: thirty eight or thirty nine or did you rough it 1200 00:57:16,413 --> 00:57:16,813 Speaker 3: a little bit? 1201 00:57:16,813 --> 00:57:16,973 Speaker 12: You know? 1202 00:57:17,093 --> 00:57:20,453 Speaker 2: Stand some backpackers, he's already said, they traveled business class, 1203 00:57:20,573 --> 00:57:22,093 Speaker 2: they went super flying. Mate. 1204 00:57:23,693 --> 00:57:28,413 Speaker 6: My wife would not stand the backpackers at eighteen different stores, 1205 00:57:28,453 --> 00:57:29,973 Speaker 6: but not now. So we just sort of got off 1206 00:57:29,973 --> 00:57:32,973 Speaker 6: a plane and were at Paris. We just need to 1207 00:57:33,053 --> 00:57:36,373 Speaker 6: be pragued by certain date to get married, and then 1208 00:57:36,413 --> 00:57:39,813 Speaker 6: we just had to get to Rome to fly out 1209 00:57:40,133 --> 00:57:42,493 Speaker 6: a month or so later. So we just waned it 1210 00:57:42,533 --> 00:57:47,213 Speaker 6: on the train Europe passes and just went with when 1211 00:57:47,253 --> 00:57:47,733 Speaker 6: we took us. 1212 00:57:47,813 --> 00:57:51,133 Speaker 2: Basically, So, who was that your wedding? And Prague? Was 1213 00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:53,053 Speaker 2: it just you two? Some people make it over It. 1214 00:57:54,293 --> 00:57:55,813 Speaker 6: Just me and my wife? 1215 00:57:56,493 --> 00:57:58,493 Speaker 2: How are you? How's how was your speech? Did you 1216 00:57:58,573 --> 00:58:00,653 Speaker 2: have to do your best man's speech for yourself? 1217 00:58:01,093 --> 00:58:01,173 Speaker 8: Ye? 1218 00:58:01,573 --> 00:58:04,973 Speaker 6: Do the whole lot. It was just always engaged a 1219 00:58:05,653 --> 00:58:08,333 Speaker 6: lady over there that organized a whole lot. The mirror 1220 00:58:08,413 --> 00:58:13,453 Speaker 6: of Prague was the cry of Mark or someone that 1221 00:58:13,613 --> 00:58:16,693 Speaker 6: high up official, and Prague just did the servants inside 1222 00:58:16,773 --> 00:58:20,373 Speaker 6: the old town. All we came out of the big wood, 1223 00:58:21,013 --> 00:58:24,853 Speaker 6: stood there. It's quite full with tous taking pH of 1224 00:58:24,973 --> 00:58:31,413 Speaker 6: us and that horse drawn carriage with a bride and 1225 00:58:31,453 --> 00:58:33,373 Speaker 6: white and neck tuned up, and we were just said, 1226 00:58:33,453 --> 00:58:35,733 Speaker 6: he we're all by ourselves and about two singles flat. 1227 00:58:36,853 --> 00:58:38,933 Speaker 2: And realized the mirror of Prague is involved in all 1228 00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:40,253 Speaker 2: these these weddings. 1229 00:58:39,933 --> 00:58:40,013 Speaker 7: And. 1230 00:58:41,493 --> 00:58:46,493 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's remember right, it's about twenty years ago. Changed 1231 00:58:46,693 --> 00:58:48,493 Speaker 6: six fends, neck and then I'm pretty sure. 1232 00:58:48,413 --> 00:58:50,773 Speaker 2: It's the mayor, or some could just been like a 1233 00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:53,333 Speaker 2: homeless guy that have found some chains, yeah, or some 1234 00:58:53,493 --> 00:59:00,493 Speaker 2: guy that is some city crier crier or something possess 1235 00:59:00,733 --> 00:59:05,253 Speaker 2: like that. Good on you, Steve, very romantic. Yeah, pretty 1236 00:59:05,253 --> 00:59:07,413 Speaker 2: glad he dar at thirty nine. As soon as what 1237 00:59:07,573 --> 00:59:10,293 Speaker 2: counts as an oe though, because I figure this is 1238 00:59:10,413 --> 00:59:13,573 Speaker 2: I'm what I think of an oe, right, is when 1239 00:59:13,613 --> 00:59:18,733 Speaker 2: you move you have to get housing in one place, right, Yeah, 1240 00:59:18,933 --> 00:59:21,533 Speaker 2: Like like a long holiday is a different thing, right, 1241 00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:23,293 Speaker 2: So if you had enough money to just travel for 1242 00:59:23,333 --> 00:59:25,253 Speaker 2: two years, that's not an oe. That's a long holiday. 1243 00:59:25,333 --> 00:59:28,733 Speaker 2: You don't reckon. I think an oe. I could be 1244 00:59:28,813 --> 00:59:30,373 Speaker 2: wrong here. People might push back on it, but I 1245 00:59:30,373 --> 00:59:32,413 Speaker 2: would say an oe is you have to move to 1246 00:59:32,573 --> 00:59:35,213 Speaker 2: let's say London, get a humiliating job in a pub, 1247 00:59:35,813 --> 00:59:38,013 Speaker 2: and drink every cent you earn. Is that what you do? 1248 00:59:38,053 --> 00:59:39,773 Speaker 2: And then come back after two years of the tail 1249 00:59:39,773 --> 00:59:41,813 Speaker 2: between your legs? It seems like a history here. 1250 00:59:41,933 --> 00:59:44,053 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1251 00:59:44,093 --> 00:59:46,413 Speaker 3: to cool love to hear from you about if you 1252 00:59:46,493 --> 00:59:49,013 Speaker 3: did do and Owei in Later Life nineteen nine two 1253 00:59:49,053 --> 00:59:51,333 Speaker 3: set text as well headlines with Raylene coming up. 1254 00:59:51,613 --> 00:59:53,453 Speaker 2: And there's plenty of more texts coming through about slugs 1255 00:59:53,453 --> 00:59:55,173 Speaker 2: as well, so we'll get to more of those as 1256 00:59:55,253 --> 00:59:58,613 Speaker 2: the afternoon progresses. Back in a month, I put out 1257 00:59:58,693 --> 01:00:01,613 Speaker 2: cat food for hedgehogs, but the slugs eat it. Don't 1258 01:00:01,733 --> 01:00:04,293 Speaker 2: like the slugs kill. The slugs kill the hedgehogs. 1259 01:00:06,293 --> 01:00:10,093 Speaker 16: Used talk ZB headlines at Blue Bubble taxis, it's no 1260 01:00:10,253 --> 01:00:13,533 Speaker 16: trouble with a Blue bubble. People are being evacuated to 1261 01:00:13,693 --> 01:00:17,333 Speaker 16: todong As Bay Park Stadium from homes at risk from 1262 01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:20,893 Speaker 16: a fresh landslip close to a reservoir water may near 1263 01:00:20,973 --> 01:00:25,733 Speaker 16: the stadium. They include residents from Mangatawa, Mudai and papakayeing 1264 01:00:25,773 --> 01:00:29,013 Speaker 16: A housing. Dozens of motor homes will be sent to 1265 01:00:29,093 --> 01:00:33,853 Speaker 16: Northland Corimandal Bay of Plenty and to Tadha Fetis temporary 1266 01:00:33,893 --> 01:00:37,973 Speaker 16: accommodation for people displaced after last week's slips and flooding. 1267 01:00:38,493 --> 01:00:42,053 Speaker 16: Ten are en route to Northland, another fifty are being readied. 1268 01:00:42,973 --> 01:00:46,493 Speaker 16: Police have closed access to battle Hill Forest Park as 1269 01:00:46,533 --> 01:00:49,853 Speaker 16: searchers for a downed helicopter continue north of Wellington near 1270 01:00:49,893 --> 01:00:54,253 Speaker 16: pai kakadi Qui Hill Road. Australian and Kiwi scientists have 1271 01:00:54,373 --> 01:00:57,973 Speaker 16: uncovered a million year old snapshot of wildlife in a 1272 01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:00,893 Speaker 16: white to or more cave, including the remains of twelve 1273 01:01:00,973 --> 01:01:04,253 Speaker 16: bood species and four types of frog. One is an 1274 01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:07,733 Speaker 16: ancient relative of the Ka kapor, believed able to fly, 1275 01:01:09,013 --> 01:01:11,893 Speaker 16: making the case for Jamie Joseph, Dave, Rennie and Ian 1276 01:01:12,093 --> 01:01:14,813 Speaker 16: Foster to work as a team in You All Blacks 1277 01:01:14,853 --> 01:01:17,373 Speaker 16: Coach position. You can see the full column at ends 1278 01:01:17,413 --> 01:01:20,253 Speaker 16: in Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 1279 01:01:20,333 --> 01:01:22,213 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, So we're talking about 1280 01:01:22,253 --> 01:01:25,653 Speaker 3: overseas experiences in the later life. This was after an 1281 01:01:25,933 --> 01:01:29,093 Speaker 3: article featuring Eli Matheson, well known New Zealand comedian. He 1282 01:01:29,333 --> 01:01:31,933 Speaker 3: has traveled or living in London with his partner at 1283 01:01:31,973 --> 01:01:34,013 Speaker 3: the age of thirty seven because he didn't didn't get 1284 01:01:34,053 --> 01:01:35,173 Speaker 3: to do that in his twenties. 1285 01:01:35,733 --> 01:01:38,173 Speaker 2: This Texas's I bet you find slugs in your undies? Man, 1286 01:01:38,573 --> 01:01:41,613 Speaker 2: it's off topic. Wow do you no? 1287 01:01:41,893 --> 01:01:42,173 Speaker 9: Okay? 1288 01:01:42,693 --> 01:01:45,653 Speaker 2: That's good news. Ray, welcome to the show you did 1289 01:01:45,693 --> 01:01:50,133 Speaker 2: that day, Taylor gooda Mattei Ray, So, I've been on 1290 01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:52,053 Speaker 2: two proper oees. 1291 01:01:51,973 --> 01:01:54,573 Speaker 14: Or one oe and one long holiday. 1292 01:01:54,573 --> 01:01:57,493 Speaker 18: Depending how he's a fine it. I loved in Japan 1293 01:01:57,773 --> 01:02:00,533 Speaker 18: like age twenty four to twenty seven, pacing English. 1294 01:02:01,333 --> 01:02:02,853 Speaker 6: After Japan, Man the X. 1295 01:02:02,893 --> 01:02:06,253 Speaker 18: Went drove around Europe a couple months and went back 1296 01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:07,373 Speaker 18: back in three southeast. 1297 01:02:09,173 --> 01:02:14,093 Speaker 2: That you said it was the trip, it was a fact. 1298 01:02:14,133 --> 01:02:14,893 Speaker 6: There was a factor. 1299 01:02:15,093 --> 01:02:17,453 Speaker 18: Maybe they said you can travel with someone, you can 1300 01:02:18,133 --> 01:02:21,053 Speaker 18: be with them permanently. I came back to his own and. 1301 01:02:22,213 --> 01:02:23,333 Speaker 13: I tried really. 1302 01:02:23,133 --> 01:02:25,253 Speaker 18: Hard to get back into the workforce. I worked in 1303 01:02:25,413 --> 01:02:27,853 Speaker 18: insurance for a while, and man, I'll tell you what, 1304 01:02:28,213 --> 01:02:31,893 Speaker 18: I hated it. Like you know, I'm not casting any 1305 01:02:31,973 --> 01:02:34,213 Speaker 18: shade on people who like working in the insurance industry, 1306 01:02:34,573 --> 01:02:37,773 Speaker 18: but I just could not the author. So in two 1307 01:02:37,893 --> 01:02:40,533 Speaker 18: thousand and eight, I stiled off everything I had. 1308 01:02:40,693 --> 01:02:41,533 Speaker 6: I quit my job. 1309 01:02:42,333 --> 01:02:43,733 Speaker 18: I took the money and I had saved, and I 1310 01:02:43,853 --> 01:02:48,173 Speaker 18: went overseas for a year. I went through Australia, India, 1311 01:02:48,693 --> 01:02:53,653 Speaker 18: Thailand and Thailand. Aged thirty, I had a kickboxing ring fight, 1312 01:02:53,813 --> 01:02:56,773 Speaker 18: really enjoyed it. Got my ass kicked, which was fine. 1313 01:02:58,253 --> 01:03:04,413 Speaker 18: Went over to Europe, went to a Beisa, Scotland and Sweden. 1314 01:03:04,533 --> 01:03:07,213 Speaker 18: So my cousin in Sweden went over to New York, 1315 01:03:07,533 --> 01:03:13,613 Speaker 18: went and travel through stop Oh, Guatemala, Guatemala. 1316 01:03:14,973 --> 01:03:19,053 Speaker 3: Oh it sounds like a phone from Guatemala. To be honest, Ray, Yeah, yeah, 1317 01:03:19,173 --> 01:03:21,213 Speaker 3: that's unfortunate because that was a great story. We'll try 1318 01:03:21,213 --> 01:03:23,533 Speaker 3: and get Ray back. But in the meantime, let's have 1319 01:03:23,573 --> 01:03:28,453 Speaker 3: a chat to Maria. Get a Maria Hello, Hell, are 1320 01:03:28,533 --> 01:03:30,613 Speaker 3: you very good? So tell us your story? 1321 01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:35,053 Speaker 19: Okay, Well, if you're saying, it's like going on your oe. 1322 01:03:35,653 --> 01:03:39,013 Speaker 19: So I didn't work, but my husband and I chucked 1323 01:03:39,093 --> 01:03:41,813 Speaker 19: our jobs in I'd been at the company i'd been 1324 01:03:42,893 --> 01:03:45,733 Speaker 19: with for nine years, and my husband had his own 1325 01:03:45,733 --> 01:03:49,493 Speaker 19: building company and we decided to close that up. And 1326 01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:56,533 Speaker 19: after after a stressful kind of building industry in twenty 1327 01:03:56,653 --> 01:04:02,253 Speaker 19: twenty and twenty one, and we went to America. So 1328 01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:04,493 Speaker 19: chat their jobs and went to America and bought. 1329 01:04:04,293 --> 01:04:05,053 Speaker 6: A motor home. 1330 01:04:06,613 --> 01:04:09,813 Speaker 19: And lived in the motorhome and tewards through America doing 1331 01:04:10,013 --> 01:04:12,573 Speaker 19: we end up doing eighteen states of America. In the end, 1332 01:04:12,693 --> 01:04:16,213 Speaker 19: we went over with a plane to do probably fine, wow, 1333 01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:19,973 Speaker 19: and we end up doing eighteen and we height all 1334 01:04:20,093 --> 01:04:24,333 Speaker 19: through all of the national parks, walk down the borhom 1335 01:04:24,373 --> 01:04:25,653 Speaker 19: of the Grand Canyon. 1336 01:04:26,173 --> 01:04:26,933 Speaker 6: Zion and. 1337 01:04:29,173 --> 01:04:34,573 Speaker 19: Sedona, and you know, all through all through all through America. 1338 01:04:34,973 --> 01:04:35,133 Speaker 6: Cool. 1339 01:04:35,613 --> 01:04:38,933 Speaker 2: Describe describe your Describe your motor home to me, was 1340 01:04:38,973 --> 01:04:41,013 Speaker 2: it one of those big American winnebagos. 1341 01:04:41,133 --> 01:04:41,173 Speaker 17: No? 1342 01:04:41,933 --> 01:04:46,213 Speaker 19: No, So it was a twenty five foot so it 1343 01:04:46,653 --> 01:04:50,653 Speaker 19: had not a walk around queen size beard, but kind 1344 01:04:50,693 --> 01:04:55,333 Speaker 19: of you know where I climb over clinimb scenario and 1345 01:04:55,653 --> 01:05:00,093 Speaker 19: so very basic. We wanted to be able to live. 1346 01:05:00,253 --> 01:05:04,973 Speaker 19: So we we went over and we we took it 1347 01:05:05,093 --> 01:05:11,653 Speaker 19: into a motor home company to see if we could 1348 01:05:11,693 --> 01:05:16,573 Speaker 19: get solar panels and an inverter and everything on it, 1349 01:05:17,293 --> 01:05:19,133 Speaker 19: and they were going to charge us I think it 1350 01:05:19,213 --> 01:05:23,933 Speaker 19: was about four grand, four US thousand dollars to get 1351 01:05:23,933 --> 01:05:27,453 Speaker 19: it done. So we went back and back to where 1352 01:05:27,493 --> 01:05:30,253 Speaker 19: we were staying, went onto Amazon and brought everything on 1353 01:05:30,333 --> 01:05:33,333 Speaker 19: Amazon and did it ourselves. Set it up so it 1354 01:05:33,453 --> 01:05:38,933 Speaker 19: was off the grid, and so when we were staying anywhere, 1355 01:05:39,533 --> 01:05:42,293 Speaker 19: we were kind of in what like our doc kemps 1356 01:05:42,453 --> 01:05:47,573 Speaker 19: SO State Parks, Recreational dot GUV. And then the other 1357 01:05:47,653 --> 01:05:53,333 Speaker 19: one was this organization called harvest Host where you sign 1358 01:05:53,493 --> 01:05:56,773 Speaker 19: up to an app kind of thing, put all your 1359 01:05:56,813 --> 01:05:59,853 Speaker 19: details of your motor home in and it gives you 1360 01:05:59,933 --> 01:06:04,013 Speaker 19: access to about three and a half thousand locations and 1361 01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:08,253 Speaker 19: those locations might be a winery or an alpaca farm 1362 01:06:08,613 --> 01:06:10,653 Speaker 19: or a berry farm, and you get to stay on 1363 01:06:10,813 --> 01:06:15,533 Speaker 19: their land for free good and the idea is that 1364 01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:17,733 Speaker 19: you might borrow a bottle of their wine or you 1365 01:06:17,853 --> 01:06:21,413 Speaker 19: might did you, you know, buy some berries of course 1366 01:06:22,133 --> 01:06:26,013 Speaker 19: were now And the thing was we had such an 1367 01:06:26,093 --> 01:06:29,973 Speaker 19: incredible experiences with those places, Like we stayed with a 1368 01:06:30,013 --> 01:06:32,973 Speaker 19: crazy Texan at a winery where he pulled out his 1369 01:06:33,333 --> 01:06:36,213 Speaker 19: got gun and my husband's following that in the middle 1370 01:06:36,213 --> 01:06:39,373 Speaker 19: of the know, we were in the winery, we picked, 1371 01:06:39,493 --> 01:06:44,253 Speaker 19: we went picking one day. The father and daughter said 1372 01:06:44,253 --> 01:06:45,933 Speaker 19: they were going to be picking grapes next day, and 1373 01:06:46,013 --> 01:06:47,693 Speaker 19: we said, I will hang around and do it with you. 1374 01:06:47,933 --> 01:06:51,013 Speaker 19: Next minute were saying another night, doing the smallest with 1375 01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,893 Speaker 19: them over the barbecue, and you know, we just met 1376 01:06:53,973 --> 01:06:57,613 Speaker 19: some really kind of down to earth small town America. 1377 01:06:58,573 --> 01:07:01,013 Speaker 19: In that whole nine months we were traveling through America, 1378 01:07:01,093 --> 01:07:03,773 Speaker 19: we only did four cities in four days, so we 1379 01:07:03,893 --> 01:07:09,173 Speaker 19: were very much in the national parks, you know, staying 1380 01:07:09,213 --> 01:07:11,173 Speaker 19: away from the cities. And this was him because we 1381 01:07:11,413 --> 01:07:14,093 Speaker 19: I mean, it was not an ideal place to take 1382 01:07:14,133 --> 01:07:14,653 Speaker 19: a motor home. 1383 01:07:14,693 --> 01:07:15,093 Speaker 9: Anyway. 1384 01:07:15,493 --> 01:07:18,333 Speaker 2: How did your relationships stand up? Maria to nine months 1385 01:07:18,373 --> 01:07:22,453 Speaker 2: and eighteen states in a twenty four foot mobile home. 1386 01:07:23,533 --> 01:07:26,173 Speaker 19: It was funny because I don't know how many of 1387 01:07:26,293 --> 01:07:28,213 Speaker 19: my husband's friends asked him. 1388 01:07:28,213 --> 01:07:31,253 Speaker 2: That that's not my friend, it's a common thing with And. 1389 01:07:32,733 --> 01:07:39,253 Speaker 19: The thing was, we came back when Gabrielle hit Auckland 1390 01:07:40,053 --> 01:07:43,893 Speaker 19: the storm, and I was to fly into Auckland Airport 1391 01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:47,973 Speaker 19: and it was flooded and rain was the airport had 1392 01:07:48,013 --> 01:07:52,573 Speaker 19: actually flooded inside. And so so we came back in January, 1393 01:07:53,413 --> 01:07:55,573 Speaker 19: sat here in the rain, and we buggered that. So 1394 01:07:55,653 --> 01:07:57,533 Speaker 19: we got back on her plane, went back and picked 1395 01:07:57,573 --> 01:08:00,253 Speaker 19: the motor home up and did Canada for three months 1396 01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:02,413 Speaker 19: and driving up and went to Canada. 1397 01:08:02,613 --> 01:08:07,653 Speaker 2: Well played, and so yeah, the plan around, Yeah, but 1398 01:08:07,973 --> 01:08:09,733 Speaker 2: so and we're intending to. 1399 01:08:09,773 --> 01:08:13,413 Speaker 19: Do it again. So we so, like you are other callers, 1400 01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:17,093 Speaker 19: we basically checked their jobs and packed their house up, 1401 01:08:17,532 --> 01:08:19,933 Speaker 19: wented the house out, and off we went. 1402 01:08:20,253 --> 01:08:21,933 Speaker 2: You got an house. Do you guys have kids? 1403 01:08:22,893 --> 01:08:26,053 Speaker 19: We've got well, we've got four children, eight grandchildren. 1404 01:08:26,333 --> 01:08:29,372 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, yeah, because everyone's saying it's all very well 1405 01:08:29,452 --> 01:08:30,532 Speaker 2: if you don't have kids, but. 1406 01:08:31,213 --> 01:08:33,612 Speaker 19: Yeah, but ours we're all growing up. Yeah, you know, 1407 01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:37,412 Speaker 19: we you know the hardest thing was being away. 1408 01:08:37,253 --> 01:08:38,532 Speaker 6: From the grand kids. To be there. 1409 01:08:38,812 --> 01:08:42,412 Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, but three of them are living in America, 1410 01:08:42,612 --> 01:08:46,933 Speaker 19: and that made it a little bit easier, you know, 1411 01:08:47,053 --> 01:08:49,013 Speaker 19: because usually you get a visy, you can stay in 1412 01:08:49,053 --> 01:08:51,852 Speaker 19: the country for three months and have to leave. But 1413 01:08:52,452 --> 01:08:55,892 Speaker 19: I went through the American Embassy and applied for a longer, 1414 01:08:56,893 --> 01:08:59,492 Speaker 19: a year's stay, right, that we could come in and out. 1415 01:09:01,013 --> 01:09:02,572 Speaker 19: But they gave me ten years. 1416 01:09:03,612 --> 01:09:06,572 Speaker 2: Ten years. Well, that's a generous amount of time. 1417 01:09:06,812 --> 01:09:09,652 Speaker 19: So I can come in and out of the US 1418 01:09:09,853 --> 01:09:12,092 Speaker 19: with no visa requirements. 1419 01:09:11,492 --> 01:09:12,173 Speaker 9: For ten years. 1420 01:09:12,213 --> 01:09:12,772 Speaker 8: How do you get there? 1421 01:09:12,812 --> 01:09:16,892 Speaker 2: But can I get that? No walls? Surprising? 1422 01:09:17,053 --> 01:09:17,692 Speaker 17: I don't have it. 1423 01:09:17,893 --> 01:09:21,412 Speaker 19: I don't have any. My daughter married an American, but 1424 01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:24,612 Speaker 19: I don't know whether that had say on it at all. 1425 01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:26,852 Speaker 19: But it didn't mean I had family that I would 1426 01:09:26,893 --> 01:09:29,812 Speaker 19: be going back and forth and seeing, and that made 1427 01:09:29,812 --> 01:09:31,893 Speaker 19: it a lot easier to have a physical address and 1428 01:09:32,053 --> 01:09:33,692 Speaker 19: insurance for the motor home. 1429 01:09:34,253 --> 01:09:37,492 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, congratulations, sounds like you nailed it. Yeah, 1430 01:09:37,492 --> 01:09:39,612 Speaker 2: what a great trip. Thank you very much. Still, I'm 1431 01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:42,293 Speaker 2: not sure that that's ane. Yeah, I mean they did 1432 01:09:42,372 --> 01:09:44,372 Speaker 2: have a home, even if it was a mobile. Yeah, 1433 01:09:44,412 --> 01:09:47,053 Speaker 2: they did. Does that count my understanding of no a right? 1434 01:09:47,452 --> 01:09:47,572 Speaker 14: Is that? 1435 01:09:47,652 --> 01:09:50,293 Speaker 2: And that sounds awesome. Marin. It's great that you guys 1436 01:09:50,293 --> 01:09:53,772 Speaker 2: are still together. But to my understanding of NOS, youve 1437 01:09:53,772 --> 01:09:55,093 Speaker 2: got to you've got to get a job in a 1438 01:09:55,133 --> 01:09:57,972 Speaker 2: pub or something and live in the town and start 1439 01:09:58,013 --> 01:09:59,612 Speaker 2: a new life for two to three years for it 1440 01:09:59,652 --> 01:10:01,013 Speaker 2: to account as an O A am I right? Two 1441 01:10:01,093 --> 01:10:03,973 Speaker 2: to three years? Yeah? Yeah? Otherwise isn't it just a 1442 01:10:04,093 --> 01:10:05,973 Speaker 2: really awesome holiday? Is he right? 1443 01:10:06,093 --> 01:10:06,213 Speaker 19: Oh? 1444 01:10:06,253 --> 01:10:07,892 Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1445 01:10:07,933 --> 01:10:09,852 Speaker 3: to call. And when we come back, I think we've 1446 01:10:09,893 --> 01:10:12,093 Speaker 3: got ray back. So we'll pick up his story from 1447 01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:13,453 Speaker 3: when he got to Guatemala. 1448 01:10:13,652 --> 01:10:15,692 Speaker 2: We'll pick up a story from it was just off 1449 01:10:15,732 --> 01:10:18,732 Speaker 2: to Guatemala when he lost contact with us. So hall 1450 01:10:18,772 --> 01:10:19,972 Speaker 2: of it t sixteen to three. 1451 01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:24,692 Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred 1452 01:10:24,692 --> 01:10:27,253 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams 1453 01:10:27,372 --> 01:10:28,892 Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks the. 1454 01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:32,173 Speaker 3: B It is thirteen two three, and we're talking about 1455 01:10:32,213 --> 01:10:34,452 Speaker 3: overseas experiences later in life. 1456 01:10:34,452 --> 01:10:36,372 Speaker 2: If you've done it, love to hear from you. Hi, Matt, 1457 01:10:36,412 --> 01:10:38,692 Speaker 2: you were sounding like an OI snob with all your conditions. 1458 01:10:38,732 --> 01:10:40,532 Speaker 2: I think you're right, Actually, I've just been looking up 1459 01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:44,452 Speaker 2: the definition of an oe in terms of New Zealand. Okay, 1460 01:10:44,452 --> 01:10:48,012 Speaker 2: culture good and OE in New Zealand is a cultural 1461 01:10:48,093 --> 01:10:50,932 Speaker 2: rite of passage involving an extended, self funded working holiday 1462 01:10:51,013 --> 01:10:53,892 Speaker 2: or travel period or travel period typically lasting at least 1463 01:10:53,933 --> 01:10:56,772 Speaker 2: a year, often taken by young adults in their twenties 1464 01:10:56,853 --> 01:11:01,013 Speaker 2: to Europe. It is designed to gain life, work experience 1465 01:11:01,253 --> 01:11:05,532 Speaker 2: and independent It's a good definition an extended, often multi 1466 01:11:05,612 --> 01:11:08,253 Speaker 2: year trip that is more than a standard Volca vake. 1467 01:11:08,812 --> 01:11:09,012 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1468 01:11:09,412 --> 01:11:11,372 Speaker 2: So that that's the key part of it. It's got 1469 01:11:11,452 --> 01:11:14,653 Speaker 2: to be more than a standard vacation. So my stipulations 1470 01:11:14,692 --> 01:11:18,812 Speaker 2: that an OE means you have to move there and 1471 01:11:19,452 --> 01:11:22,652 Speaker 2: you know, work in a pub and whatever house, settle down, 1472 01:11:23,412 --> 01:11:25,093 Speaker 2: raise a family. I've got a bunch of mates and 1473 01:11:25,133 --> 01:11:27,692 Speaker 2: went on Oe's and then got you know, zero down. 1474 01:11:27,812 --> 01:11:30,652 Speaker 2: Mortgages in London did very well. Yeah, their houses going 1475 01:11:30,652 --> 01:11:31,053 Speaker 2: through the roof. 1476 01:11:31,133 --> 01:11:33,772 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh one hundred and eighteen eighty seen number 1477 01:11:33,772 --> 01:11:35,572 Speaker 3: to call and I think we've got ray back ray. 1478 01:11:35,772 --> 01:11:37,412 Speaker 2: When we left you, you were about to head off 1479 01:11:37,452 --> 01:11:38,372 Speaker 2: to Guatemala. 1480 01:11:39,452 --> 01:11:42,133 Speaker 18: Yeah, Matt Tyler, So I reckon this is a for 1481 01:11:42,253 --> 01:11:45,293 Speaker 18: three reasons. While it was more than a year two. 1482 01:11:45,652 --> 01:11:50,252 Speaker 18: I did volunteer work overseas. I taught English and Vietnam, 1483 01:11:50,372 --> 01:11:54,652 Speaker 18: and I worked with the intellectually handicap in Guatemala. And 1484 01:11:54,732 --> 01:11:57,972 Speaker 18: I worked with kats from the fancial families in Peru, 1485 01:11:58,452 --> 01:12:00,692 Speaker 18: and I lived with a lot of locals. Do you 1486 01:12:00,692 --> 01:12:02,293 Speaker 18: guys know what couch surfing is? 1487 01:12:02,933 --> 01:12:04,053 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've heard of it. 1488 01:12:04,213 --> 01:12:06,893 Speaker 18: Yeah, So so cal savings where you basically look for 1489 01:12:06,973 --> 01:12:11,412 Speaker 18: free accommodation with peoples and if you're a if you're 1490 01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:15,572 Speaker 18: a good person, you will help out with housework, You'll 1491 01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:18,333 Speaker 18: buy them a nice meals, things like that. So I 1492 01:12:18,372 --> 01:12:20,092 Speaker 18: did a lot of couch s effing when I was overseas, 1493 01:12:20,213 --> 01:12:24,892 Speaker 18: especially in the expensive places like New York, like Spain, 1494 01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:31,293 Speaker 18: like Sweden, places like that. So after Guatemala, I then 1495 01:12:31,372 --> 01:12:35,852 Speaker 18: went to South America and went through Peru, Bolivia, Chillaire 1496 01:12:36,053 --> 01:12:39,812 Speaker 18: and Argentina. I came actually on that trip when I 1497 01:12:39,893 --> 01:12:44,133 Speaker 18: turned thirty. I was on a train in India where 1498 01:12:44,253 --> 01:12:46,452 Speaker 18: nobody could understand me, and I was trying to explain 1499 01:12:46,612 --> 01:12:50,412 Speaker 18: it's my birthday, Happy birthday to me. But the people 1500 01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:53,253 Speaker 18: on the train that I was having on the English 1501 01:12:53,372 --> 01:12:56,932 Speaker 18: just or made my accents. I wasn't able to be understood. 1502 01:12:57,893 --> 01:13:00,612 Speaker 18: The thing which I took from my year overseas was 1503 01:13:00,652 --> 01:13:03,012 Speaker 18: when I came back to New zound in two thousand 1504 01:13:03,013 --> 01:13:05,732 Speaker 18: and nine, I thought, well, you know what I really 1505 01:13:06,053 --> 01:13:08,732 Speaker 18: like supporting and working with people, and so I went 1506 01:13:08,772 --> 01:13:12,173 Speaker 18: back to study and I have been a qualified social 1507 01:13:12,213 --> 01:13:15,133 Speaker 18: worker for about fifteen years now. And the reason I'm 1508 01:13:15,133 --> 01:13:17,612 Speaker 18: always so comfortable about being in his own and why 1509 01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:20,612 Speaker 18: I love our country so much as I've seen the 1510 01:13:20,652 --> 01:13:22,932 Speaker 18: rest of the world, and I always feel that people 1511 01:13:22,973 --> 01:13:25,812 Speaker 18: who are negative about in New zewe On and they think, yeah, 1512 01:13:26,452 --> 01:13:29,053 Speaker 18: our government's terrible and things like that, I always say, 1513 01:13:29,173 --> 01:13:32,012 Speaker 18: these people have not traveled, they have not lived overseas, 1514 01:13:32,053 --> 01:13:34,492 Speaker 18: and they haven't they haven't seen many other countries. Like 1515 01:13:34,772 --> 01:13:38,133 Speaker 18: I am forever grateful that I live in his own 1516 01:13:38,412 --> 01:13:41,372 Speaker 18: and I believe in his own government is incredibly generous 1517 01:13:41,812 --> 01:13:45,013 Speaker 18: to people in need, and maybe people are not so 1518 01:13:45,173 --> 01:13:48,012 Speaker 18: much need. But I think people who are really critical 1519 01:13:48,133 --> 01:13:52,053 Speaker 18: of our country, mantalists, simply haven't traveled and haven't really 1520 01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:52,652 Speaker 18: lived abroad. 1521 01:13:52,893 --> 01:13:55,452 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we were talking about yesterday when sixteen 1522 01:13:55,452 --> 01:13:57,572 Speaker 2: percent of young people in New Zealand think that they're 1523 01:13:57,612 --> 01:14:01,692 Speaker 2: living in the worst time ever. Those people have definitely 1524 01:14:01,732 --> 01:14:05,253 Speaker 2: not traveled or actually read any kind of history and 1525 01:14:05,572 --> 01:14:06,053 Speaker 2: twenty fine. 1526 01:14:06,333 --> 01:14:10,372 Speaker 18: I agree, it's crazy like we are in part the 1527 01:14:10,612 --> 01:14:11,652 Speaker 18: best time in the. 1528 01:14:11,732 --> 01:14:14,573 Speaker 2: Human history right now underniable. 1529 01:14:14,612 --> 01:14:16,732 Speaker 6: There are a few people in. 1530 01:14:16,812 --> 01:14:20,372 Speaker 18: Poverty, there's less warfare than there has been. I sen 1531 01:14:20,372 --> 01:14:22,452 Speaker 18: there's a couple of things going on globally, But if 1532 01:14:22,492 --> 01:14:24,452 Speaker 18: you look at all the metrics, we're living to a 1533 01:14:24,572 --> 01:14:25,173 Speaker 18: later age. 1534 01:14:25,933 --> 01:14:27,692 Speaker 2: Children are not dying, like. 1535 01:14:28,093 --> 01:14:31,253 Speaker 18: I bancually think your text yesterday. A really good book 1536 01:14:31,253 --> 01:14:35,692 Speaker 18: to read on this is Factfulness Hans Rosling, and you 1537 01:14:35,732 --> 01:14:38,133 Speaker 18: can do an online you can do an online test 1538 01:14:38,973 --> 01:14:42,532 Speaker 18: Factfulness Tests by Hans Rustling, and we'll basically look at 1539 01:14:42,933 --> 01:14:45,293 Speaker 18: how you might interpret the world and what it was 1540 01:14:45,412 --> 01:14:46,932 Speaker 18: actually true in the given time. 1541 01:14:47,293 --> 01:14:50,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and also Enlightenment now by Stephen Pinker, 1542 01:14:50,333 --> 01:14:52,372 Speaker 2: and a lot of Stephen Pinker's work. And we've actually 1543 01:14:52,412 --> 01:14:54,093 Speaker 2: got Stephen Pinker on the show on Friday, and I'm 1544 01:14:54,133 --> 01:14:58,852 Speaker 2: interviewing him on stage at the Bruce Mason Center on Monday, 1545 01:14:58,973 --> 01:15:02,013 Speaker 2: February the second. This ticket is available for that. But yeah, 1546 01:15:02,053 --> 01:15:04,133 Speaker 2: he's another one that just takes a rational view of 1547 01:15:04,173 --> 01:15:07,253 Speaker 2: the world and you can just list the stats globally 1548 01:15:07,333 --> 01:15:11,333 Speaker 2: in terms of starvation and extreme poverty. Things have changed 1549 01:15:11,572 --> 01:15:13,973 Speaker 2: so fantastically for the better in the last fifty and 1550 01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:17,012 Speaker 2: even twenty five years. It's quite incredible. But of course 1551 01:15:17,333 --> 01:15:20,133 Speaker 2: people aren't fed that, are they. They're fared just the 1552 01:15:20,293 --> 01:15:23,532 Speaker 2: worst possible things that can possibly have happened anywhere in 1553 01:15:23,572 --> 01:15:25,452 Speaker 2: the world. It'll pick a little thing anywhere in the 1554 01:15:25,452 --> 01:15:27,972 Speaker 2: world and feed that to you, and then understandably people 1555 01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:29,972 Speaker 2: start to think that's what's happening everywhere because they're living 1556 01:15:30,013 --> 01:15:32,732 Speaker 2: their lives through the lens of their devices. Right, but 1557 01:15:32,893 --> 01:15:35,053 Speaker 2: you go there and you see, you know, if you 1558 01:15:35,173 --> 01:15:38,692 Speaker 2: go overseas and you go to somewhere like Guatemala, then 1559 01:15:38,973 --> 01:15:41,333 Speaker 2: then to say that it's hard living in New Zealand 1560 01:15:41,532 --> 01:15:44,532 Speaker 2: is you know, it just doesn't stand up, doesn't it ray? 1561 01:15:45,532 --> 01:15:47,652 Speaker 18: And you know what like an a New Zealand Like 1562 01:15:47,732 --> 01:15:49,933 Speaker 18: if you're doing it really tough in New Zealan, you 1563 01:15:50,053 --> 01:15:52,852 Speaker 18: are not starving to death and you normally have a 1564 01:15:53,013 --> 01:15:55,492 Speaker 18: roof over your head. Like, I just don't think that 1565 01:15:55,532 --> 01:15:59,572 Speaker 18: people recognize how generous and support of our government is. 1566 01:15:59,893 --> 01:16:03,253 Speaker 18: And I'm not the meaning people who are living in 1567 01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:05,452 Speaker 18: relative poverty and where things are tough. 1568 01:16:05,532 --> 01:16:05,973 Speaker 6: I get it. 1569 01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:10,773 Speaker 18: I'm not bashing anyone with that. But compared to overseas 1570 01:16:10,853 --> 01:16:14,772 Speaker 18: countries like in India, there are people dying on the 1571 01:16:14,853 --> 01:16:18,652 Speaker 18: street because they're poor. Now got its own problems. 1572 01:16:18,732 --> 01:16:19,213 Speaker 6: I get that. 1573 01:16:19,372 --> 01:16:22,213 Speaker 18: I acknowledge that. Got people typically in yourself, I'm not 1574 01:16:22,372 --> 01:16:24,572 Speaker 18: dying of starvation, they're typically not. 1575 01:16:24,973 --> 01:16:28,532 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We go to a breakdown. But yeah, yeah, 1576 01:16:28,652 --> 01:16:31,452 Speaker 2: so I think away for more than a year, living 1577 01:16:31,532 --> 01:16:36,293 Speaker 2: on couches and doing charity in Guatemala and Peru. Yeah, 1578 01:16:36,333 --> 01:16:38,532 Speaker 2: that counts as an OE, right, Yeah, great endorsement for 1579 01:16:38,612 --> 01:16:40,692 Speaker 2: Oe's back in a moment. It's seven two. 1580 01:16:40,652 --> 01:16:43,973 Speaker 8: Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of 1581 01:16:44,053 --> 01:16:48,012 Speaker 8: fun along the way. Mad Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news. 1582 01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:51,732 Speaker 2: Talks, EDB news Talks. Be it is five to three, 1583 01:16:52,053 --> 01:16:54,532 Speaker 2: you know what, and a lot of texts have been 1584 01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:58,333 Speaker 2: texting And you're not in Guatemala now, doctor Roe Putter. 1585 01:16:58,492 --> 01:17:01,612 Speaker 2: But I thought that was very grown up of us 1586 01:17:01,893 --> 01:17:03,933 Speaker 2: write through that chat with Ray about his time in 1587 01:17:03,933 --> 01:17:06,932 Speaker 2: Guatemala to not say you're not in Guatemala now, Doctor 1588 01:17:06,973 --> 01:17:10,772 Speaker 2: Robert is there for the taking. I think we've moved on. Yeah, 1589 01:17:12,372 --> 01:17:15,213 Speaker 2: as a country to not be referencing that Shorten Street episode, 1590 01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:16,893 Speaker 2: the very first episode of Shorten Street or was I 1591 01:17:16,933 --> 01:17:18,812 Speaker 2: believe Yeah, we've milked it for everything it's worth. 1592 01:17:19,973 --> 01:17:23,452 Speaker 3: Probably times now you're mentioning obviously, Ray was talking about 1593 01:17:23,492 --> 01:17:25,492 Speaker 3: how lucky we are to live in this country in 1594 01:17:25,572 --> 01:17:27,692 Speaker 3: a couple of books, and you mentioned one by Stephen 1595 01:17:27,812 --> 01:17:31,772 Speaker 3: Pinker that talks about the facts of the situation. Incredibly 1596 01:17:31,853 --> 01:17:35,372 Speaker 3: popular author Thinker, And as you mentioned, he is going 1597 01:17:35,452 --> 01:17:39,492 Speaker 3: to be here in the country on Monday, and he 1598 01:17:39,652 --> 01:17:42,452 Speaker 3: is of course a Harvard cognitive psychologist, best selling author 1599 01:17:42,492 --> 01:17:44,293 Speaker 3: nine for his work on language and the human mind. 1600 01:17:44,372 --> 01:17:46,852 Speaker 3: So that is Monday, the February second, it's seven pm. 1601 01:17:47,412 --> 01:17:50,853 Speaker 3: He appears live at the Bruce Mason Center in conversation 1602 01:17:51,053 --> 01:17:53,133 Speaker 3: with none other than yourself, Matt with me. 1603 01:17:53,293 --> 01:17:54,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, yep. 1604 01:17:54,612 --> 01:17:58,972 Speaker 3: So tickets are available at Thinkable dot Events. That's Thinkable 1605 01:17:59,093 --> 01:18:01,133 Speaker 3: dot Events. It would be a great night. And he 1606 01:18:01,372 --> 01:18:03,892 Speaker 3: is an incredibly fascinating man. Stephen Pinker. 1607 01:18:04,173 --> 01:18:06,012 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all we hear is that the world 1608 01:18:06,093 --> 01:18:08,092 Speaker 2: is getting worse, but when you step back and actually 1609 01:18:08,133 --> 01:18:10,253 Speaker 2: look at the long term data, the picture is far 1610 01:18:10,333 --> 01:18:12,732 Speaker 2: more complicated than that, and a lot of things are 1611 01:18:12,772 --> 01:18:13,452 Speaker 2: getting a lot better. 1612 01:18:13,572 --> 01:18:15,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, how good, Right, we're going to keep this going 1613 01:18:15,412 --> 01:18:19,133 Speaker 3: after three o'clock Overseas experiences Later in life, that's next. 1614 01:18:21,213 --> 01:18:25,532 Speaker 1: Your new home are instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie 1615 01:18:25,772 --> 01:18:29,293 Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sebby. 1616 01:18:30,133 --> 01:18:33,092 Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. Youre welcome back into the show. Seven 1617 01:18:33,213 --> 01:18:35,892 Speaker 3: past three. Really good to have your company as always, 1618 01:18:36,013 --> 01:18:38,932 Speaker 3: and we have been talking about Oh, he's later in life. 1619 01:18:38,973 --> 01:18:40,772 Speaker 2: This is after a great article. It's on the Herald. 1620 01:18:40,812 --> 01:18:43,692 Speaker 3: You can give it a read featuring Eli Matheson, well 1621 01:18:43,732 --> 01:18:46,372 Speaker 3: known comedian in New Zealand. Him and his partner took off. 1622 01:18:46,412 --> 01:18:48,093 Speaker 3: They love life here in New Zealand. They said it 1623 01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:50,333 Speaker 3: was a nine out of ten life in Auckland. But 1624 01:18:50,452 --> 01:18:52,972 Speaker 3: he's thirty seven, his partner's pretty close to that age, 1625 01:18:52,973 --> 01:18:54,293 Speaker 3: and he said, if. 1626 01:18:54,213 --> 01:18:56,452 Speaker 2: We don't do it now, we're never gonna do it. 1627 01:18:56,933 --> 01:18:59,452 Speaker 2: So later in life for an oe, is anything out 1628 01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:02,572 Speaker 2: of your early twenties? Is it? I reckon? Even if 1629 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,772 Speaker 2: you're doing your at twenty seven, it's kind of not 1630 01:19:04,853 --> 01:19:09,572 Speaker 2: the traditional time, isn't it? Go to scoll, do some training, 1631 01:19:10,013 --> 01:19:12,053 Speaker 2: save some money, get a job, save some money, going 1632 01:19:12,053 --> 01:19:15,173 Speaker 2: one right oe, right, isn't that that's the traditional way 1633 01:19:15,213 --> 01:19:16,892 Speaker 2: of doing it Back in the day. I was talking 1634 01:19:17,013 --> 01:19:19,652 Speaker 2: to a friend's mum and she went on an oe 1635 01:19:19,812 --> 01:19:22,692 Speaker 2: on a boat. So it got on a boat because 1636 01:19:22,692 --> 01:19:25,053 Speaker 2: back in the day it was hard to hard to 1637 01:19:25,133 --> 01:19:29,133 Speaker 2: fly over there. Talking in the early seventies, used to 1638 01:19:29,173 --> 01:19:31,293 Speaker 2: build a boat over there. I mean, that's the moments, 1639 01:19:31,333 --> 01:19:33,253 Speaker 2: isn't it a huge amount of EUROI would be on 1640 01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:37,213 Speaker 2: the three months to the on the steamer, getting steamed 1641 01:19:37,253 --> 01:19:40,452 Speaker 2: on the steamer. This Texas says, Hey, my husband and 1642 01:19:40,492 --> 01:19:43,092 Speaker 2: I sold our business and we did our late oe 1643 01:19:43,732 --> 01:19:47,133 Speaker 2: in our early fifties, and nineteen year old son Checkley said, 1644 01:19:48,213 --> 01:19:50,492 Speaker 2: aren't you a bit old for an oe? I replied, 1645 01:19:50,692 --> 01:19:54,492 Speaker 2: we aren't. Budget backpacking babe. Spent nine months traveling over 1646 01:19:54,532 --> 01:19:56,692 Speaker 2: twenty countries in Europe, had an absolute blasts and made 1647 01:19:56,772 --> 01:19:59,772 Speaker 2: lifelong memories and friends, missed our boys like crazy, but 1648 01:19:59,893 --> 01:20:01,852 Speaker 2: had the time of our lives. Four months back from 1649 01:20:01,893 --> 01:20:03,772 Speaker 2: the trip and my husband got a rear form of 1650 01:20:04,532 --> 01:20:07,972 Speaker 2: lymphoma and it was touch and go for a year 1651 01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:12,452 Speaker 2: with a very small survival chance. Thank you, thankfully he's 1652 01:20:12,452 --> 01:20:15,293 Speaker 2: all recovered. Wow, I'm glad that's still it turned around, 1653 01:20:15,893 --> 01:20:19,133 Speaker 2: all recovered and doing incredibly. Don't put it off. If 1654 01:20:19,213 --> 01:20:21,732 Speaker 2: you can do it, you never know what's just around 1655 01:20:21,772 --> 01:20:25,133 Speaker 2: the corner. Life is for the living. Jeers, guys, so 1656 01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:27,732 Speaker 2: good to have you back. That's from from Jackie. What 1657 01:20:27,853 --> 01:20:29,532 Speaker 2: a great teacht from Jackie. Thank you very much. 1658 01:20:29,572 --> 01:20:31,772 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 1659 01:20:31,853 --> 01:20:33,293 Speaker 3: call love to hear your experiences. 1660 01:20:33,532 --> 01:20:35,053 Speaker 2: How did you do it? How much did you have 1661 01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:38,812 Speaker 2: to save? Nine two ninety two is that text as well? 1662 01:20:39,452 --> 01:20:42,452 Speaker 2: This Texas iss HI guys does Overseas operational deployment for 1663 01:20:42,492 --> 01:20:46,772 Speaker 2: the NZDF count as an OE was a very unique 1664 01:20:46,772 --> 01:20:49,732 Speaker 2: experience in these team war that's from Stefan. Yeah, that 1665 01:20:50,572 --> 01:20:52,892 Speaker 2: does that count as no E. That's that's it's harder 1666 01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:56,093 Speaker 2: to justify that. Yeah, thank you for your service. Deare 1667 01:20:56,133 --> 01:20:59,093 Speaker 2: to start with, you did a great thing. But that's 1668 01:20:59,093 --> 01:21:04,452 Speaker 2: an what's so I overseas operational and that's an OD 1669 01:21:04,652 --> 01:21:06,572 Speaker 2: isn't it overseas operational deployment? 1670 01:21:06,692 --> 01:21:06,852 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1671 01:21:07,093 --> 01:21:09,452 Speaker 2: I it's very different to it's not laughing it up 1672 01:21:09,532 --> 01:21:13,213 Speaker 2: working in a pub in London and you know, being 1673 01:21:13,253 --> 01:21:16,213 Speaker 2: an absolute dirt bag for two years like an is. 1674 01:21:16,333 --> 01:21:18,372 Speaker 2: It is an experience oversea. He's no doubt about it. 1675 01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:21,972 Speaker 2: Just not just not a traditional it's a worthy experience. Yeah, 1676 01:21:22,013 --> 01:21:24,612 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if all o's are worthy like that. 1677 01:21:25,053 --> 01:21:27,173 Speaker 2: And the sixer says, what planet are you living on? 1678 01:21:27,333 --> 01:21:30,972 Speaker 2: Great question? Earth, I believe. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Earth. Yep. 1679 01:21:31,173 --> 01:21:33,012 Speaker 2: The other planets are pretty hard to live on. In fact, 1680 01:21:33,013 --> 01:21:34,772 Speaker 2: I don't think you can if we've got that wrong. 1681 01:21:35,572 --> 01:21:40,012 Speaker 2: Nine two nine two yeap, But pretty positive, yeah, pretty positive. 1682 01:21:40,133 --> 01:21:43,133 Speaker 2: We can almost confirm that one tellan Welcome to the show. 1683 01:21:47,372 --> 01:21:53,293 Speaker 13: What a great subject I did my it's fifty two. 1684 01:21:54,732 --> 01:21:55,293 Speaker 10: Wow, I. 1685 01:21:57,053 --> 01:22:00,492 Speaker 13: Left my husband, so I thought right out here, what 1686 01:22:00,572 --> 01:22:00,812 Speaker 13: do you do? 1687 01:22:02,652 --> 01:22:03,053 Speaker 6: What do you do? 1688 01:22:04,293 --> 01:22:06,173 Speaker 13: Nothing? I just decided I've had enough. 1689 01:22:06,293 --> 01:22:09,972 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough enough. That was a lot of little things. 1690 01:22:10,893 --> 01:22:14,253 Speaker 13: But you were saying, because I'm seventy three now, so 1691 01:22:14,532 --> 01:22:18,092 Speaker 13: in the seventies, yeah, we did go on a boat 1692 01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:20,212 Speaker 13: over to Europe. 1693 01:22:20,692 --> 01:22:22,852 Speaker 2: What kind of boat was? I was a so I 1694 01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:24,692 Speaker 2: mean obviously diesel power. 1695 01:22:25,093 --> 01:22:27,412 Speaker 13: My friends did that. But anyway, I got married and 1696 01:22:27,452 --> 01:22:29,652 Speaker 13: had a couple of kids, and then they took up 1697 01:22:29,692 --> 01:22:33,333 Speaker 13: overseas too, so they did their early oes. 1698 01:22:34,452 --> 01:22:35,333 Speaker 8: But I didn't do that. 1699 01:22:35,893 --> 01:22:41,293 Speaker 13: So fifty two I took off and a friend said, 1700 01:22:41,333 --> 01:22:44,053 Speaker 13: I'll come with you, Helen, And well we went to 1701 01:22:44,173 --> 01:22:47,732 Speaker 13: India in Egypt, and I would never have gone there 1702 01:22:47,772 --> 01:22:53,772 Speaker 13: if she hadn't been with me. It was just unbelievably amazing. 1703 01:22:54,333 --> 01:22:58,852 Speaker 13: And then we went to Morocco and I had my 1704 01:22:59,213 --> 01:23:01,612 Speaker 13: son in London at the time, and I had some 1705 01:23:01,772 --> 01:23:06,133 Speaker 13: friends in Germany and relations in Norway from way back, 1706 01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:09,932 Speaker 13: and I went round the world for a year. 1707 01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,412 Speaker 2: On you did you meet any nice fellas when you're 1708 01:23:13,412 --> 01:23:13,732 Speaker 2: over there? 1709 01:23:14,652 --> 01:23:14,892 Speaker 8: Oh? 1710 01:23:15,333 --> 01:23:22,012 Speaker 13: No, not really, But I just I met her lady 1711 01:23:22,293 --> 01:23:26,852 Speaker 13: in Morocco, who was a famous artist from Russia from 1712 01:23:27,973 --> 01:23:32,173 Speaker 13: and because I went to my up to Norway in 1713 01:23:32,333 --> 01:23:35,253 Speaker 13: Finland and had it. I got on the train into 1714 01:23:35,492 --> 01:23:39,892 Speaker 13: Saint Petersburg and she met me there and romantic one 1715 01:23:39,933 --> 01:23:42,333 Speaker 13: of his piece I bought one of her pieces of art, 1716 01:23:42,893 --> 01:23:43,892 Speaker 13: which I've now got. 1717 01:23:43,853 --> 01:23:47,253 Speaker 2: The homes was that? Was that a romantic liaison? Helen? 1718 01:23:50,213 --> 01:23:51,933 Speaker 2: When in St. Petersburg, you know you never know? 1719 01:23:52,893 --> 01:23:55,333 Speaker 13: Oh it's so beautiful. Yeah, I can't go there now, 1720 01:23:55,412 --> 01:23:55,692 Speaker 13: can we? 1721 01:23:56,652 --> 01:23:56,852 Speaker 17: Well? 1722 01:23:57,013 --> 01:24:01,333 Speaker 2: No, no, not easily, not easily, Yeah you can't. 1723 01:24:02,213 --> 01:24:06,093 Speaker 13: That was the best thing I ever did, was go and. 1724 01:24:06,732 --> 01:24:08,973 Speaker 2: Discover the world and did you did you have a 1725 01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:11,052 Speaker 2: bit of money floating around to be able to do that, Helen, 1726 01:24:11,253 --> 01:24:11,572 Speaker 2: not really. 1727 01:24:11,732 --> 01:24:14,612 Speaker 13: I rented out my weak house and off a week 1728 01:24:14,973 --> 01:24:17,213 Speaker 13: and thought, well, I'll worry about it when I get back. 1729 01:24:17,893 --> 01:24:20,612 Speaker 2: Were you were you scared to do it or you 1730 01:24:20,772 --> 01:24:23,333 Speaker 2: just thought you went? You went to some pretty challenging 1731 01:24:23,372 --> 01:24:26,532 Speaker 2: places there you go India, I've been there and it's 1732 01:24:27,612 --> 01:24:29,213 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a lot to deal with. For 1733 01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:31,652 Speaker 2: a key we just the way how different things are. 1734 01:24:31,652 --> 01:24:35,293 Speaker 2: I mean, for trying to drive a correct car around Bengalore, 1735 01:24:35,412 --> 01:24:37,452 Speaker 2: we'll test you. 1736 01:24:38,532 --> 01:24:41,692 Speaker 13: And then Egypt. We did book this friend of mine 1737 01:24:41,732 --> 01:24:47,053 Speaker 13: we booked the week cruise on the Nile and just amazing. 1738 01:24:47,692 --> 01:24:51,253 Speaker 13: And we did a week cruisy thing in Morocco too, 1739 01:24:51,452 --> 01:24:53,652 Speaker 13: So you just sort of had to plan it ahead 1740 01:24:53,732 --> 01:24:58,293 Speaker 13: and they had friends around. But I really recommend you 1741 01:24:58,492 --> 01:25:04,973 Speaker 13: go and travel the world because yeah, time flies by 1742 01:25:05,133 --> 01:25:06,213 Speaker 13: really quickly, and. 1743 01:25:07,133 --> 01:25:09,133 Speaker 2: So you think that you think in your life you 1744 01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:10,852 Speaker 2: should do it at some point. If you don't, for 1745 01:25:10,973 --> 01:25:12,892 Speaker 2: whatever reason, managed to do it when you're when you're 1746 01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,692 Speaker 2: in your early twenties or whenever people normally do the o's, 1747 01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:17,492 Speaker 2: you've got you've got to you've got to find a 1748 01:25:17,532 --> 01:25:19,852 Speaker 2: time to do it. Yep, do you think do you 1749 01:25:19,973 --> 01:25:21,333 Speaker 2: think did you say did you say this was a 1750 01:25:21,372 --> 01:25:23,813 Speaker 2: few years ago? So did you say you're in your seventies. 1751 01:25:23,452 --> 01:25:25,333 Speaker 13: Now, yep, seventy three. 1752 01:25:25,452 --> 01:25:26,973 Speaker 2: Now do you think do you think you'd do you 1753 01:25:27,013 --> 01:25:28,652 Speaker 2: think you'd be able to handle doing it now? 1754 01:25:29,013 --> 01:25:29,213 Speaker 10: With that? 1755 01:25:29,412 --> 01:25:32,253 Speaker 13: Oh? Yeah it was done it again? Oh okay, okay, 1756 01:25:32,772 --> 01:25:35,253 Speaker 13: you know you've got I just think that whole year 1757 01:25:35,293 --> 01:25:42,133 Speaker 13: away was and you just you know, you're going all 1758 01:25:42,213 --> 01:25:45,053 Speaker 13: sorts of places that you've never been before and just 1759 01:25:45,772 --> 01:25:46,253 Speaker 13: singing it. 1760 01:25:46,452 --> 01:25:48,732 Speaker 2: Really, what about your ex husband? Did he just stay 1761 01:25:48,732 --> 01:25:49,293 Speaker 2: in New Zealand? 1762 01:25:50,053 --> 01:25:50,253 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1763 01:25:50,492 --> 01:25:54,412 Speaker 13: So we just we're just my friend and I. We 1764 01:25:54,612 --> 01:25:57,612 Speaker 13: just go up to get into it a city or 1765 01:25:57,652 --> 01:26:02,053 Speaker 13: wherever we're and knock on the door and of a 1766 01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:05,333 Speaker 13: hotel or whatever or a little cottage or whatever that 1767 01:26:05,492 --> 01:26:08,093 Speaker 13: was renting it out and just stayed a couple of 1768 01:26:08,173 --> 01:26:11,612 Speaker 13: nys wander around. Did you have a lot of money? 1769 01:26:11,732 --> 01:26:13,812 Speaker 3: Did you have any hearing moments, any big nights out 1770 01:26:13,853 --> 01:26:15,013 Speaker 3: that almost got your locked up? 1771 01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:20,333 Speaker 2: No, it's all part of the fun, Helen. 1772 01:26:21,253 --> 01:26:21,572 Speaker 17: I did. 1773 01:26:21,853 --> 01:26:22,253 Speaker 5: I did. 1774 01:26:22,692 --> 01:26:24,612 Speaker 13: I wanted to go to Scotland and see where all 1775 01:26:24,652 --> 01:26:27,612 Speaker 13: the exists going from and I hir do we car 1776 01:26:27,812 --> 01:26:30,372 Speaker 13: and drove around there on my own and I didn't 1777 01:26:30,772 --> 01:26:33,452 Speaker 13: take insurance, so I was a bit nervous all the 1778 01:26:33,492 --> 01:26:36,812 Speaker 13: way around, but I got around, got back to Edinburgh and. 1779 01:26:38,853 --> 01:26:41,372 Speaker 2: Helen, thank you for there you go, Thank you for 1780 01:26:41,412 --> 01:26:45,133 Speaker 2: sharing story. Yeah, what ay she is oe? When you're younger, 1781 01:26:46,173 --> 01:26:49,572 Speaker 2: head off fifty two leave the hobby. She did again 1782 01:26:49,612 --> 01:26:51,293 Speaker 2: when she's seventy three. What a champion? 1783 01:26:51,372 --> 01:26:53,133 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 1784 01:26:53,213 --> 01:26:55,612 Speaker 3: call love to hear your experiences of doing an oe 1785 01:26:55,772 --> 01:26:58,612 Speaker 3: later in life. It's quarter past three, US talk said, 1786 01:26:58,933 --> 01:27:02,652 Speaker 3: eighteen past three. We're talking about overseas experiences later in life. 1787 01:27:02,692 --> 01:27:04,293 Speaker 3: If you've done it, can you hear from you? Eight 1788 01:27:04,412 --> 01:27:05,612 Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. 1789 01:27:06,253 --> 01:27:08,452 Speaker 2: Michael wanted the show you you hit it up to 1790 01:27:08,452 --> 01:27:11,572 Speaker 2: the humalayas a but later in life I understand. 1791 01:27:15,492 --> 01:27:18,852 Speaker 22: I went her instigation. I had no head for heights 1792 01:27:18,933 --> 01:27:23,213 Speaker 22: and I was petrified, but I faced my fears always 1793 01:27:23,253 --> 01:27:26,173 Speaker 22: somewhere I wanted to go. And my last trip I've 1794 01:27:26,213 --> 01:27:29,692 Speaker 22: been fifteen times, went back and back to the Humbu, 1795 01:27:29,772 --> 01:27:34,732 Speaker 22: the Everest region and the people. I just acknowledge and 1796 01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:37,652 Speaker 22: confirm all these people who have been talking before me. 1797 01:27:38,173 --> 01:27:43,772 Speaker 22: They met people. And the people in Nepal are so humble, 1798 01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:48,492 Speaker 22: so poor in the main oh and there are also 1799 01:27:48,612 --> 01:27:52,133 Speaker 22: some very very rich people. But I met on track. 1800 01:27:52,293 --> 01:27:55,173 Speaker 22: You meet the people of the land. And the one 1801 01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:58,692 Speaker 22: thing I would advise anybody or encouraged it people to grow. 1802 01:27:59,053 --> 01:28:02,492 Speaker 22: But go on your own go tooboor and when you 1803 01:28:02,692 --> 01:28:05,612 Speaker 22: get there, yep I read the first time I went 1804 01:28:05,692 --> 01:28:09,492 Speaker 22: to a group and I saw the and I wanted 1805 01:28:09,532 --> 01:28:12,732 Speaker 22: to go back, and I was so I used to. 1806 01:28:13,013 --> 01:28:18,053 Speaker 22: I found somebody, a guy there, a treeking company, and 1807 01:28:18,173 --> 01:28:21,852 Speaker 22: I went through them. Number one, you only pay for 1808 01:28:22,013 --> 01:28:24,612 Speaker 22: the guide and the porter when you get there. You 1809 01:28:24,732 --> 01:28:28,172 Speaker 22: don't pay some a travel agent here in New Zealand. 1810 01:28:29,173 --> 01:28:34,412 Speaker 22: And really it's a rip off because the Nepalese don't 1811 01:28:34,452 --> 01:28:38,333 Speaker 22: get that money the boys. I'm not trying to be 1812 01:28:38,452 --> 01:28:39,732 Speaker 22: too bad, but that's what it is. 1813 01:28:40,133 --> 01:28:44,412 Speaker 2: But you hit over there, you haven't made any plans 1814 01:28:44,452 --> 01:28:47,053 Speaker 2: in advance, but you meet a person and you say 1815 01:28:47,412 --> 01:28:49,213 Speaker 2: and then you negotiate for them to be a guide 1816 01:28:49,253 --> 01:28:50,053 Speaker 2: for you once you get there. 1817 01:28:50,213 --> 01:28:51,412 Speaker 8: That's the inmitsion. 1818 01:28:51,492 --> 01:28:55,213 Speaker 22: But you negotiate. But so you inquire in Katman do, 1819 01:28:55,973 --> 01:28:59,213 Speaker 22: and you get a number of people trekking companies there 1820 01:28:59,333 --> 01:29:02,133 Speaker 22: based in Kapman do and you negotiate with one or 1821 01:29:02,133 --> 01:29:04,492 Speaker 22: two of them. I made meant with the same ones 1822 01:29:04,532 --> 01:29:07,732 Speaker 22: for fifteen times because they were so good to me. 1823 01:29:07,853 --> 01:29:12,053 Speaker 22: I had three guides in those fifteen times. And I look, 1824 01:29:13,652 --> 01:29:17,652 Speaker 22: it's my happy place if I if I could only 1825 01:29:17,812 --> 01:29:22,253 Speaker 22: Carol wouldn't like to live there because it's not the 1826 01:29:22,412 --> 01:29:23,372 Speaker 22: best conditions. 1827 01:29:24,412 --> 01:29:24,732 Speaker 2: Michael. 1828 01:29:25,372 --> 01:29:28,053 Speaker 22: Yeah, well, my partner, Yes, she was the one who 1829 01:29:28,133 --> 01:29:30,133 Speaker 22: got me going. So she said, one of all these 1830 01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:33,652 Speaker 22: books for Nepal and Tibetans. So I said, I can't. 1831 01:29:33,853 --> 01:29:35,412 Speaker 22: I haven't got a head for heights. So she said, 1832 01:29:35,492 --> 01:29:38,333 Speaker 22: let's go. And that was way back in two thousand 1833 01:29:38,372 --> 01:29:43,053 Speaker 22: and one two, and she's the one that instigated this. 1834 01:29:43,772 --> 01:29:45,812 Speaker 2: But then but then you back with that, Are you 1835 01:29:45,893 --> 01:29:46,812 Speaker 2: in over there on your own? 1836 01:29:47,412 --> 01:29:50,612 Speaker 22: Yeah, but she's been with me three times and she 1837 01:29:50,853 --> 01:29:53,253 Speaker 22: just spread it out. I just said, I'm going back, 1838 01:29:53,333 --> 01:29:56,852 Speaker 22: I'm going back. And the best part of as I 1839 01:29:56,893 --> 01:29:59,372 Speaker 22: said in the board, obviously, they're the mountains. I've seen 1840 01:29:59,452 --> 01:30:05,092 Speaker 22: Everest at sunset, at sunrise and other times, many many times. 1841 01:30:05,372 --> 01:30:10,253 Speaker 22: But it's the people. It's the people. I can't say 1842 01:30:10,253 --> 01:30:13,972 Speaker 22: any more than that if I got invited to houses 1843 01:30:14,372 --> 01:30:17,333 Speaker 22: for my guide's house and to other people, that's a 1844 01:30:17,492 --> 01:30:20,852 Speaker 22: big compliment to a foreigner to be invited to their 1845 01:30:20,973 --> 01:30:25,772 Speaker 22: house to eat at their table or eat on the floor. 1846 01:30:26,812 --> 01:30:27,452 Speaker 22: I've done that. 1847 01:30:28,333 --> 01:30:32,692 Speaker 2: Very cool, Michael, Yeah, cre evariance. Yeah, absolutely. Go and 1848 01:30:32,772 --> 01:30:35,213 Speaker 2: go and overseas by yourself is an interesting one. Would 1849 01:30:35,213 --> 01:30:37,173 Speaker 2: you do that, Tyler? Would you sit off to somewhere 1850 01:30:37,253 --> 01:30:42,972 Speaker 2: challenging on your own? I just leave and go? Yeah, absolutely, anytime, 1851 01:30:43,253 --> 01:30:43,812 Speaker 2: any time. 1852 01:30:44,093 --> 01:30:44,133 Speaker 5: No. 1853 01:30:44,253 --> 01:30:47,372 Speaker 3: I thought about this generally, I like the idea of it, 1854 01:30:47,452 --> 01:30:50,053 Speaker 3: but when I've traveled solo in the past, I think 1855 01:30:50,133 --> 01:30:52,492 Speaker 3: I like most of it. But then you have your 1856 01:30:52,572 --> 01:30:54,852 Speaker 3: days where it's cheap as I wish maybe was here. 1857 01:30:54,933 --> 01:30:58,532 Speaker 2: The THESU says. In my twenties, I sneaked into Afghanistan 1858 01:30:59,053 --> 01:31:02,133 Speaker 2: and ran into a couple from Gore in their late seventies. 1859 01:31:02,572 --> 01:31:04,652 Speaker 2: I was amazed at the determination to see the sites 1860 01:31:04,692 --> 01:31:06,133 Speaker 2: of the world at their age and willing to take 1861 01:31:06,213 --> 01:31:11,293 Speaker 2: risks doing it. Wow, Afghanistan, good Gore farming stock Yeah, 1862 01:31:11,973 --> 01:31:15,772 Speaker 2: if you've survived, you know, Friday night and Gore. With 1863 01:31:15,933 --> 01:31:18,253 Speaker 2: the way that town is set up, it's just designed. 1864 01:31:18,293 --> 01:31:21,293 Speaker 2: So you drive down, then round the roundabout and back 1865 01:31:21,772 --> 01:31:24,052 Speaker 2: and you know, get out of the car and physically 1866 01:31:24,053 --> 01:31:27,213 Speaker 2: assault anyone that's from Dunedin and my experience yep. Yeah, 1867 01:31:27,253 --> 01:31:29,933 Speaker 2: then you know you can addle anything. Afghanistan's walk in 1868 01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:30,253 Speaker 2: the park. 1869 01:31:31,372 --> 01:31:31,492 Speaker 20: Right. 1870 01:31:31,532 --> 01:31:33,293 Speaker 3: We've got a few more ticks to get to. But 1871 01:31:33,412 --> 01:31:35,892 Speaker 3: Ken on your phone calls one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1872 01:31:36,173 --> 01:31:38,212 Speaker 3: It is twenty two past three. 1873 01:31:42,093 --> 01:31:45,732 Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty 1874 01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:47,412 Speaker 1: ten eighty on yoused talk ZV. 1875 01:31:47,853 --> 01:31:51,173 Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you twenty five past three. Some 1876 01:31:51,293 --> 01:31:54,452 Speaker 2: good techs coming through on nine two ninety two. You muppets, 1877 01:31:54,572 --> 01:31:58,173 Speaker 2: sayssus text. Thirty seven isn't later life? Yeah, that's a 1878 01:31:58,213 --> 01:32:01,213 Speaker 2: good point. So the story we're having is thea at 1879 01:32:01,293 --> 01:32:04,612 Speaker 2: thirty seven being would you do do you do your 1880 01:32:04,652 --> 01:32:06,333 Speaker 2: OE in later in life when you've got a bit 1881 01:32:06,372 --> 01:32:09,772 Speaker 2: more money? Yeah, I mean you wouldn't say thirty seven 1882 01:32:09,893 --> 01:32:12,093 Speaker 2: is later life, but it is later to do your OE, 1883 01:32:12,293 --> 01:32:15,892 Speaker 2: especially for London, because that's outside of the range where 1884 01:32:15,933 --> 01:32:19,852 Speaker 2: you get the three year working visa. Yeah, because that's 1885 01:32:19,933 --> 01:32:22,892 Speaker 2: up to thirty that's eighteen to thirty five, I believe correct. Yeah, 1886 01:32:23,053 --> 01:32:25,492 Speaker 2: so it is later in that you're heading over there 1887 01:32:25,853 --> 01:32:27,692 Speaker 2: in the story, the person that's heating over there, Eli 1888 01:32:28,333 --> 01:32:29,333 Speaker 2: is doing it outside of that. 1889 01:32:29,452 --> 01:32:32,852 Speaker 3: Range exactly, and arguably, you know, you've set up a 1890 01:32:32,933 --> 01:32:34,333 Speaker 3: career and then you've got to stop it to go 1891 01:32:34,412 --> 01:32:37,652 Speaker 3: on your oe. At thirty seven, my mate Spider says 1892 01:32:37,692 --> 01:32:40,812 Speaker 3: this Tector, Sorry, I'll start that again. My mate Spider 1893 01:32:40,853 --> 01:32:43,372 Speaker 3: says his text and his wife Sue are traveling a 1894 01:32:43,492 --> 01:32:47,293 Speaker 3: long way from home, leaving from Switzerland and October going 1895 01:32:47,293 --> 01:32:54,933 Speaker 3: to Italy, Greece, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Armenia, Georgia, Turkmenistan, Usebekistan 1896 01:32:55,732 --> 01:33:00,772 Speaker 3: and Chogasa Khan, all the Stans, Tajj Jakistan. The photos 1897 01:33:00,893 --> 01:33:05,292 Speaker 3: and dialogue from the WhatsApp feed is remarkable, and everywhere 1898 01:33:05,333 --> 01:33:07,813 Speaker 3: they have traveled, the people they have met are astonishing. 1899 01:33:07,853 --> 01:33:12,333 Speaker 2: He's sixty nine, she's a little younger. Phil Man sixty 1900 01:33:12,452 --> 01:33:17,612 Speaker 2: nine heading off to Iraq and Syria. I mean there's 1901 01:33:17,612 --> 01:33:19,612 Speaker 2: a whole lot going on in Syria, right into the 1902 01:33:19,692 --> 01:33:23,492 Speaker 2: red zone, right into the war zone. Yeah, idam, mate, 1903 01:33:23,492 --> 01:33:26,612 Speaker 2: that went war tourism. I'm not sure if this is 1904 01:33:26,652 --> 01:33:29,213 Speaker 2: morally correct. The morally good thing to do. But he 1905 01:33:29,372 --> 01:33:31,812 Speaker 2: headed off to Bosnia during that conflict just to see 1906 01:33:31,853 --> 01:33:33,133 Speaker 2: what it was like to be in a war zone. 1907 01:33:33,372 --> 01:33:35,692 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. It must have been incredibly hard to get in. 1908 01:33:35,973 --> 01:33:36,133 Speaker 13: Look. 1909 01:33:36,173 --> 01:33:38,372 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds a bit garish, but I'll put 1910 01:33:38,452 --> 01:33:40,372 Speaker 2: my hand up there. I would. He wasn't doing it 1911 01:33:40,452 --> 01:33:44,852 Speaker 2: to help anyone. He wasn't doing it to you know, 1912 01:33:45,053 --> 01:33:49,133 Speaker 2: protest anything. Or he just went there because it'd be 1913 01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:53,572 Speaker 2: interesting to go to a war zone. I was like, yeah, 1914 01:33:53,652 --> 01:33:56,732 Speaker 2: that's a really great way to end up dead for reason. Yeah, exactly. 1915 01:33:57,452 --> 01:33:59,932 Speaker 2: A couple more texts and then we'll wrap this one up. 1916 01:34:01,013 --> 01:34:01,133 Speaker 13: Hi. 1917 01:34:01,452 --> 01:34:03,213 Speaker 2: My husband and I sold that business and we did 1918 01:34:03,253 --> 01:34:06,093 Speaker 2: our OE in our early fifties, our nineteen nine zone 1919 01:34:06,732 --> 01:34:09,532 Speaker 2: son Chickley said, I already read that one out that's 1920 01:34:09,572 --> 01:34:14,652 Speaker 2: come up. Sorry, yep, oh yes, and we've had that 1921 01:34:14,732 --> 01:34:18,572 Speaker 2: one as well. I've got bad, bad text organization here 1922 01:34:18,612 --> 01:34:21,372 Speaker 2: in front of us. Now, I'll we do in May. 1923 01:34:21,452 --> 01:34:24,812 Speaker 2: It's sixty five, we're going to Kruger Park for six nights. 1924 01:34:25,452 --> 01:34:27,492 Speaker 3: That's not an OE, no, No, it's got to be. 1925 01:34:28,372 --> 01:34:30,852 Speaker 3: We had the definition there and I think it was 1926 01:34:30,893 --> 01:34:35,372 Speaker 3: an extended holiday. It's six nights. I mean that's extended 1927 01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:38,572 Speaker 3: for some but I don't think it's extended enough. There 1928 01:34:38,692 --> 01:34:41,213 Speaker 3: is a time period here. Kruger Park sounds lovely, Michael. 1929 01:34:41,372 --> 01:34:42,852 Speaker 3: You know, I hope you have a good time. Imagine 1930 01:34:42,853 --> 01:34:43,133 Speaker 3: you will. 1931 01:34:43,612 --> 01:34:45,772 Speaker 2: You're going to South Africa for six days. Mate. That's 1932 01:34:45,772 --> 01:34:47,612 Speaker 2: a holiday. It's a holiday, Michael. 1933 01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:51,173 Speaker 3: It will be an experience you're overseas, but it's not 1934 01:34:51,253 --> 01:34:52,612 Speaker 3: a true oe. 1935 01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:53,812 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1936 01:34:54,093 --> 01:34:57,052 Speaker 3: All right, great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone 1937 01:34:57,093 --> 01:34:58,412 Speaker 3: who takes the gold on that one. 1938 01:34:58,652 --> 01:35:00,932 Speaker 2: I have a great time in Krugar Park. Yeah, enjoy it. Yeah, 1939 01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:03,212 Speaker 2: it sounds lovely. That's a holiday, yeah, yeah, fantastic. 1940 01:35:03,532 --> 01:35:03,652 Speaker 10: Right. 1941 01:35:03,732 --> 01:35:05,532 Speaker 3: Coming up after the headlines, we want to have a 1942 01:35:05,612 --> 01:35:08,532 Speaker 3: chat about athlete mountaindowns. This is after Coco Goff, two 1943 01:35:08,652 --> 01:35:13,053 Speaker 3: time Major champion. She complained about backstage surveillance after an 1944 01:35:13,133 --> 01:35:17,533 Speaker 3: epic post match rock racket Smash was captured by Melbourne's 1945 01:35:17,612 --> 01:35:22,453 Speaker 3: Parks cameras. So she suffered a loss in that Australian 1946 01:35:22,492 --> 01:35:25,173 Speaker 3: Open and then took off off the court. She tried 1947 01:35:25,213 --> 01:35:27,012 Speaker 3: to hide around what she thought was a place where 1948 01:35:27,013 --> 01:35:31,572 Speaker 3: the cameras went operated and just absolutely unleashed on her racket, 1949 01:35:31,652 --> 01:35:35,412 Speaker 3: completely destroyed massive tantrum. Now she's turned around and said, 1950 01:35:35,412 --> 01:35:37,572 Speaker 3: that's an invasion of my privacy. That was a private 1951 01:35:37,692 --> 01:35:40,013 Speaker 3: moment that shouldn't have been on camera. That was a 1952 01:35:40,053 --> 01:35:41,652 Speaker 3: private tentee, private tanty. 1953 01:35:41,772 --> 01:35:41,972 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1954 01:35:42,133 --> 01:35:44,773 Speaker 3: So the question we've got for you is, athlete mountdowns, 1955 01:35:44,853 --> 01:35:47,692 Speaker 3: does this make you respect to them more? Is there 1956 01:35:47,812 --> 01:35:51,012 Speaker 3: some rationale for And let's be honest here, tennis players 1957 01:35:51,053 --> 01:35:52,933 Speaker 3: do this a lot by having a wee tanty in 1958 01:35:53,013 --> 01:35:56,652 Speaker 3: smashing your racket. Is it justifiable? Is it entertaining or 1959 01:35:56,692 --> 01:35:58,173 Speaker 3: does it make you look at those people and say 1960 01:35:58,412 --> 01:35:59,213 Speaker 3: you're just a pratt? 1961 01:35:59,772 --> 01:35:59,972 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1962 01:36:00,133 --> 01:36:03,932 Speaker 2: I mean, so she's still in the stadia, isn't she. Yeah, 1963 01:36:04,173 --> 01:36:06,932 Speaker 2: I mean I guess you don't follow her into the toilet, 1964 01:36:07,692 --> 01:36:10,012 Speaker 2: so the parts of the stadium where she would feel 1965 01:36:10,093 --> 01:36:13,053 Speaker 2: like she has some privacy. But why is it the 1966 01:36:13,133 --> 01:36:15,492 Speaker 2: tennis players feel the need to throw more tanties than 1967 01:36:15,492 --> 01:36:18,173 Speaker 2: any other sports people in the entire world? They're right 1968 01:36:18,293 --> 01:36:20,692 Speaker 2: up there? Is it because they've got a racket to smash? 1969 01:36:22,053 --> 01:36:24,812 Speaker 2: You know, a rugby player doesn't necessarily it's hard to 1970 01:36:24,853 --> 01:36:25,772 Speaker 2: smash a rugby ball. 1971 01:36:26,133 --> 01:36:29,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's something about the solo sports as well, 1972 01:36:30,532 --> 01:36:33,012 Speaker 3: whether it is for tennis players. But arguably I don't 1973 01:36:33,013 --> 01:36:35,852 Speaker 3: think golf players, for example, do this as much as 1974 01:36:35,893 --> 01:36:38,372 Speaker 3: tennis players, but they are for their whole career talked 1975 01:36:38,452 --> 01:36:43,133 Speaker 3: up as superstars and it's all on them, right. 1976 01:36:43,412 --> 01:36:45,612 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, undoubtedly tennis players are the worst 1977 01:36:45,893 --> 01:36:48,053 Speaker 2: of all the sports people, and I think part of 1978 01:36:48,093 --> 01:36:51,612 Speaker 2: it's because of the training involved to become great at 1979 01:36:51,652 --> 01:36:56,973 Speaker 2: sports is isolated. Yeah, it's you just going hard. You know, 1980 01:36:57,452 --> 01:37:01,093 Speaker 2: so many reps by yourself. The focus is entirely on you. 1981 01:37:02,093 --> 01:37:04,572 Speaker 2: And then when you go out into your career, you're 1982 01:37:04,572 --> 01:37:07,052 Speaker 2: sort of traveling. You're the star, but you've got support 1983 01:37:07,133 --> 01:37:08,692 Speaker 2: staff around you. It's not like a team. If you 1984 01:37:08,812 --> 01:37:10,173 Speaker 2: need rugby team, you've got a lot of people that 1985 01:37:10,412 --> 01:37:12,893 Speaker 2: there to keep you humble as well as to protect you. 1986 01:37:12,973 --> 01:37:14,933 Speaker 2: If you make a mistake, then they might pat you 1987 01:37:15,013 --> 01:37:16,852 Speaker 2: on the bart and say it's all right mate, you know, 1988 01:37:17,213 --> 01:37:20,532 Speaker 2: next time, next play. And you have the ability, you know, 1989 01:37:20,772 --> 01:37:22,972 Speaker 2: when you're in a press conference to defer to your team. 1990 01:37:23,013 --> 01:37:24,973 Speaker 2: You go just you know, someone says you're amazing, you go, 1991 01:37:25,173 --> 01:37:27,213 Speaker 2: it's the team. It's all about the teammate. They're there 1992 01:37:27,253 --> 01:37:29,333 Speaker 2: for me, you know. And I think there's there's something 1993 01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:31,772 Speaker 2: about the nature of a tennis player where you become 1994 01:37:32,492 --> 01:37:36,812 Speaker 2: the focus is so on you that you inevitably turn 1995 01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:38,932 Speaker 2: into an asshole. Yeap the main character syndrome. 1996 01:37:39,093 --> 01:37:40,532 Speaker 3: What do you say though, I eight one hundred and 1997 01:37:40,572 --> 01:37:44,932 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty the athlete mountdowns? Are they justifiable, particularly 1998 01:37:44,973 --> 01:37:47,492 Speaker 3: when it comes to these tennis stars or does that 1999 01:37:47,652 --> 01:37:49,732 Speaker 3: make you respect them less? 2000 01:37:50,213 --> 01:37:52,132 Speaker 2: And two fans have the right to see everything athletes 2001 01:37:52,173 --> 01:37:52,972 Speaker 2: do it a major tournament? 2002 01:37:53,053 --> 01:37:54,612 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any right to say it was 2003 01:37:54,652 --> 01:37:57,333 Speaker 3: a private moment? Moment nineteen ninety two is a text 2004 01:37:57,412 --> 01:37:59,133 Speaker 3: number headlines with Rayling coming up. 2005 01:38:00,532 --> 01:38:04,253 Speaker 16: You've talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's 2006 01:38:04,412 --> 01:38:07,812 Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. A helicopter paint and 2007 01:38:07,933 --> 01:38:10,732 Speaker 16: the so old passenger have died in a crash. 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Now back to Matteath and Tyler Adams, thank. 2023 01:39:07,732 --> 01:39:08,253 Speaker 2: You very much. 2024 01:39:08,732 --> 01:39:12,572 Speaker 3: So we're talking about Coco Goth's meltdown after losing her 2025 01:39:12,692 --> 01:39:15,173 Speaker 3: match at the Australian Open. She took off the court, 2026 01:39:15,333 --> 01:39:16,933 Speaker 3: she went round a corner. She thought it was a 2027 01:39:16,973 --> 01:39:21,213 Speaker 3: private moment and absolutely smashed the hell out of her racket, 2028 01:39:21,333 --> 01:39:24,333 Speaker 3: destroyed it. And now she's upset because the camera's quarter. 2029 01:39:24,452 --> 01:39:27,173 Speaker 3: She actually thought that was a private moment to let 2030 01:39:27,213 --> 01:39:29,932 Speaker 3: off some steam. So we've got a couple of questions 2031 01:39:30,013 --> 01:39:33,492 Speaker 3: for you. One these athlete meltdowns, does that make you 2032 01:39:34,293 --> 01:39:36,293 Speaker 3: look at them? And say you're just aprats or is 2033 01:39:36,372 --> 01:39:40,092 Speaker 3: it justifiable? And those those high pressure situations, and also 2034 01:39:41,013 --> 01:39:44,732 Speaker 3: following people into those areas which arguably may be private. 2035 01:39:44,812 --> 01:39:47,372 Speaker 3: It's off the court, you're off the playing field, you're 2036 01:39:47,412 --> 01:39:50,093 Speaker 3: going into the back room and to a locker. Is 2037 01:39:50,133 --> 01:39:52,053 Speaker 3: it justifiable to track them in there? 2038 01:39:52,133 --> 01:39:52,293 Speaker 13: Yeah? 2039 01:39:52,372 --> 01:39:54,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there for our entertainment. They get paid a 2040 01:39:54,412 --> 01:39:56,932 Speaker 2: lot of money to entertain us. That's the whole point 2041 01:39:57,053 --> 01:39:59,612 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, so you know, and also the idea 2042 01:39:59,692 --> 01:40:02,852 Speaker 2: that she she didn't I didn't smash up my racket 2043 01:40:02,933 --> 01:40:06,093 Speaker 2: on the court. I sensibly, like a sane person, went 2044 01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:09,452 Speaker 2: into a back room and smashed it. When anyone that's 2045 01:40:09,492 --> 01:40:12,412 Speaker 2: been in a you in the sheds and someone and 2046 01:40:12,973 --> 01:40:15,372 Speaker 2: someone's coming when they've gone out and smashed up the 2047 01:40:15,812 --> 01:40:18,452 Speaker 2: room with their cricket bat and something, Yeah, it's just 2048 01:40:18,612 --> 01:40:22,572 Speaker 2: so weird. But as people say, you know Roger feder Or, 2049 01:40:22,612 --> 01:40:23,852 Speaker 2: did you ever see him throwing a tenting? 2050 01:40:24,013 --> 01:40:24,053 Speaker 5: No? 2051 01:40:24,452 --> 01:40:27,293 Speaker 3: Never kept it together. Yeah, one of the finest tennis 2052 01:40:27,333 --> 01:40:28,333 Speaker 3: players in history. 2053 01:40:28,452 --> 01:40:30,852 Speaker 2: And why a tennis players any different from anyone else? 2054 01:40:31,333 --> 01:40:34,812 Speaker 2: So if something happens at work, can I just smash 2055 01:40:34,933 --> 01:40:39,093 Speaker 2: up my headphones because I'm under pressure? Can an uber 2056 01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:41,532 Speaker 2: driver just drive their uber into a tree because they're 2057 01:40:41,572 --> 01:40:44,093 Speaker 2: under pressure, I don't smash up the tools of their trade. Yeah, 2058 01:40:44,253 --> 01:40:46,772 Speaker 2: that's a good point. I mean, can a police officer 2059 01:40:46,933 --> 01:40:50,772 Speaker 2: just go and taser a tree because they're angry at 2060 01:40:50,893 --> 01:40:52,452 Speaker 2: what's going on? I would love to see that. That 2061 01:40:52,532 --> 01:40:53,372 Speaker 2: would be entertaining. 2062 01:40:54,053 --> 01:40:54,213 Speaker 15: Now. 2063 01:40:54,333 --> 01:40:57,333 Speaker 3: She was of course grilled on on that incident during 2064 01:40:57,452 --> 01:40:59,732 Speaker 3: her media briefing. Here's a little bit of that. 2065 01:41:00,173 --> 01:41:04,372 Speaker 20: Yeah, I tried to go somewhere where there's no cameras. Yeah, 2066 01:41:04,412 --> 01:41:06,253 Speaker 20: I kind of feel like I have a thing with 2067 01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:08,492 Speaker 20: the broadcast. I feel like certain moments to seem thing 2068 01:41:08,532 --> 01:41:10,772 Speaker 20: happened Tyrena after I played her final US Open, I 2069 01:41:10,812 --> 01:41:13,772 Speaker 20: feel like they don't need to broadcast. I tried to 2070 01:41:13,853 --> 01:41:15,772 Speaker 20: go somewhere where I thought there wasn't a camera because 2071 01:41:15,772 --> 01:41:18,652 Speaker 20: I don't necessarily like breaking records. But I lost one 2072 01:41:18,732 --> 01:41:21,933 Speaker 20: and two. I broke one racket on court quarters I 2073 01:41:21,973 --> 01:41:25,093 Speaker 20: think around sixteen of Fringe Open, I think, and I 2074 01:41:25,093 --> 01:41:27,133 Speaker 20: said I would never do it again on court because 2075 01:41:27,133 --> 01:41:30,452 Speaker 20: I don't feel like that's a good representation. But yeah, 2076 01:41:30,572 --> 01:41:33,013 Speaker 20: I tried to go somewhere where they wouldn't broadcast it. 2077 01:41:34,612 --> 01:41:37,852 Speaker 20: But obviously they did, so yeah, maybe some conversations we 2078 01:41:37,933 --> 01:41:40,092 Speaker 20: can be had, because I feel like at this tournament 2079 01:41:40,772 --> 01:41:42,772 Speaker 20: the only private place we have is the locker curve. 2080 01:41:43,652 --> 01:41:45,412 Speaker 6: Is it part of you that just thinks it's healthy 2081 01:41:45,532 --> 01:41:48,492 Speaker 6: to just smash that record and just get that loss 2082 01:41:48,612 --> 01:41:49,213 Speaker 6: I've done with? 2083 01:41:49,412 --> 01:41:50,333 Speaker 10: Does it help you move on? 2084 01:41:51,053 --> 01:41:51,253 Speaker 13: Yeah? 2085 01:41:51,452 --> 01:41:55,452 Speaker 20: Definitely. I think for me, I know myself and I 2086 01:41:55,492 --> 01:41:57,532 Speaker 20: don't want to last shout on my team. They're good people, 2087 01:41:57,652 --> 01:42:01,053 Speaker 20: they don't deserve that, and I know I'm emotional, so yeah, 2088 01:42:01,093 --> 01:42:04,133 Speaker 20: I just took the minute to go and do that. 2089 01:42:04,452 --> 01:42:06,572 Speaker 20: And yeah, I don't think it's a bad thing. Like 2090 01:42:06,612 --> 01:42:08,213 Speaker 20: I said, I don't try to do it on court 2091 01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:11,492 Speaker 20: in front of kids and things like that, but I 2092 01:42:11,572 --> 01:42:14,252 Speaker 20: do know I need to let out that motion otherwise 2093 01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:17,013 Speaker 20: I'm just gonna be snappy with the people around me. 2094 01:42:17,253 --> 01:42:19,692 Speaker 20: And I don't want to do that because, like I said, 2095 01:42:19,732 --> 01:42:21,253 Speaker 20: they don't deserve it. They did their best. 2096 01:42:21,492 --> 01:42:21,732 Speaker 4: I did. 2097 01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:25,612 Speaker 20: Mine just need to let the frustration out, I man, 2098 01:42:26,053 --> 01:42:26,333 Speaker 20: you just. 2099 01:42:26,333 --> 01:42:27,933 Speaker 2: Need to leave the frustration out. So she lives a 2100 01:42:27,973 --> 01:42:30,732 Speaker 2: different life from anyone else. So if you worked in 2101 01:42:30,772 --> 01:42:33,213 Speaker 2: a kitchen, just you know, I just needed to let 2102 01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:36,893 Speaker 2: the frustration out. So I have to the pots on 2103 01:42:37,013 --> 01:42:40,293 Speaker 2: the ground. The cleaver. I just just cleared the table 2104 01:42:40,333 --> 01:42:42,452 Speaker 2: of all the pots. I don't know, you know, I 2105 01:42:42,572 --> 01:42:44,572 Speaker 2: have to. I just had to let the frustration out, 2106 01:42:44,612 --> 01:42:46,412 Speaker 2: so I have to burger across the restaurant. 2107 01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:50,093 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 2108 01:42:50,133 --> 01:42:51,933 Speaker 3: Love your thoughts on. There's a couple of takes on 2109 01:42:51,973 --> 01:42:52,772 Speaker 3: nine two nine two. 2110 01:42:53,053 --> 01:42:55,093 Speaker 2: I respect that she tried to do it on her 2111 01:42:55,213 --> 01:42:57,612 Speaker 2: own off the court, not taking away from the other 2112 01:42:57,652 --> 01:43:00,612 Speaker 2: players win. Doing it at the end on the court 2113 01:43:00,853 --> 01:43:06,852 Speaker 2: like sublink Sebalizka sub slinker did when she was beaten 2114 01:43:06,893 --> 01:43:10,692 Speaker 2: shows bad sportsmanship and private is frustration. We shouldn't be 2115 01:43:10,732 --> 01:43:14,652 Speaker 2: seeing private tears or racket smashes. It's entertaining, though, isn't 2116 01:43:14,652 --> 01:43:19,732 Speaker 2: it by far the most entertaining part of that situation 2117 01:43:19,893 --> 01:43:22,253 Speaker 2: for people, you know, bringing people to talk about tennis. 2118 01:43:22,492 --> 01:43:24,652 Speaker 2: I mean, as far as people running it, they're great. 2119 01:43:24,933 --> 01:43:27,532 Speaker 2: Oh Jack pop, smash that racket up. Everyone's talking about it. 2120 01:43:27,612 --> 01:43:31,732 Speaker 3: Yep, heck yeah, Sharon, you don't have much to get 2121 01:43:31,772 --> 01:43:33,612 Speaker 3: a nice to chat. You don't have much respect for 2122 01:43:33,652 --> 01:43:34,372 Speaker 3: this sort of behavior. 2123 01:43:35,532 --> 01:43:39,093 Speaker 12: I just think it's childish. I mean, John McEnroe used 2124 01:43:39,133 --> 01:43:41,972 Speaker 12: to have a tantrum at times as well and other ones, 2125 01:43:42,173 --> 01:43:46,572 Speaker 12: and so no, I just I don't like seeing that, 2126 01:43:46,853 --> 01:43:49,213 Speaker 12: even if it was private or on the court. I 2127 01:43:49,412 --> 01:43:51,492 Speaker 12: just think they need to rain their temperate. 2128 01:43:51,213 --> 01:43:51,572 Speaker 6: And just. 2129 01:43:53,293 --> 01:43:54,892 Speaker 9: Not being said childish, it's just. 2130 01:43:56,612 --> 01:43:57,293 Speaker 12: It's necessary. 2131 01:43:57,772 --> 01:43:59,932 Speaker 2: Does that help you move on to have a ten 2132 01:43:59,973 --> 01:44:01,412 Speaker 2: t I don't know if she's I don't know if 2133 01:44:01,452 --> 01:44:03,932 Speaker 2: they're right that that was a really softball question from 2134 01:44:04,492 --> 01:44:06,652 Speaker 2: the person in the press gallery. You know, do you 2135 01:44:06,772 --> 01:44:09,412 Speaker 2: just do it to help you move on? To paraphrase 2136 01:44:09,452 --> 01:44:11,612 Speaker 2: what it says, I mean, does that I mean that 2137 01:44:11,732 --> 01:44:14,253 Speaker 2: does just throwing a mass tanty help you move on? 2138 01:44:14,492 --> 01:44:16,452 Speaker 2: Or is I don't know, I don't I don't know 2139 01:44:16,492 --> 01:44:16,892 Speaker 2: if it does. 2140 01:44:17,853 --> 01:44:21,133 Speaker 12: I guess so it's pretty sort of out there. I mean, 2141 01:44:21,213 --> 01:44:24,053 Speaker 12: it's not a lot of people maybe wrong, wrong, but 2142 01:44:24,612 --> 01:44:27,213 Speaker 12: not a lot of people who like seeing that happen. 2143 01:44:27,372 --> 01:44:30,452 Speaker 12: But I just think it's childish and needs to rain 2144 01:44:30,532 --> 01:44:32,333 Speaker 12: a temperate and you know, and just. 2145 01:44:34,253 --> 01:44:36,013 Speaker 2: You're a professional getting paid a lot of money. Are 2146 01:44:36,053 --> 01:44:37,012 Speaker 2: they just on that question? 2147 01:44:37,133 --> 01:44:40,213 Speaker 3: There's two schools of thought in my mind, is I've 2148 01:44:41,253 --> 01:44:43,692 Speaker 3: let out a massive explete before when I've been incredibly 2149 01:44:43,772 --> 01:44:47,213 Speaker 3: frustrated or things haven't gone my way or I'm getting 2150 01:44:47,333 --> 01:44:49,532 Speaker 3: incredibly worked up, but I'll take myself out of the 2151 01:44:49,612 --> 01:44:54,213 Speaker 3: situation usually hopefully not always, but do a massive explete 2152 01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:56,372 Speaker 3: if just to try and let off that steam, and 2153 01:44:56,532 --> 01:44:59,012 Speaker 3: it does help. But then the other school of thought 2154 01:44:59,253 --> 01:45:01,932 Speaker 3: is I should actually have control of my emotions far 2155 01:45:02,093 --> 01:45:05,492 Speaker 3: better than the need to vent, to actually reassess why 2156 01:45:05,532 --> 01:45:08,253 Speaker 3: I'm getting frustrated and to maybe do some deep breath 2157 01:45:08,612 --> 01:45:11,372 Speaker 3: that Coco Golf maybe should have known herself before destroying 2158 01:45:11,372 --> 01:45:11,932 Speaker 3: her equipment. 2159 01:45:12,452 --> 01:45:14,173 Speaker 2: That listen to this. Working in a kitchen and playing 2160 01:45:14,213 --> 01:45:16,452 Speaker 2: a massive tournament you've trained your whole life for is 2161 01:45:16,532 --> 01:45:17,692 Speaker 2: two completely different things? 2162 01:45:17,853 --> 01:45:18,492 Speaker 9: Is it that? 2163 01:45:18,692 --> 01:45:20,492 Speaker 2: That's the whole thing? I think these tennis players do 2164 01:45:20,652 --> 01:45:23,812 Speaker 2: think that they're somehow special individuals, and I think they 2165 01:45:23,853 --> 01:45:25,932 Speaker 2: get their tires pumped up to think they are special 2166 01:45:26,053 --> 01:45:30,133 Speaker 2: in individuals with the support team around them and you know, 2167 01:45:30,253 --> 01:45:34,572 Speaker 2: traveling the world, and I just think that is why 2168 01:45:34,652 --> 01:45:36,652 Speaker 2: is it different from someone I mean, I don't think 2169 01:45:36,652 --> 01:45:38,852 Speaker 2: there's anything more stressful than working in a kitchen. Anyone 2170 01:45:38,893 --> 01:45:42,173 Speaker 2: that's worked in a kitchen, I would push back. I 2171 01:45:42,213 --> 01:45:45,013 Speaker 2: would say working in a busy kitchen in a restaurant, 2172 01:45:45,732 --> 01:45:48,612 Speaker 2: is as stressful as anything you will do in the world. 2173 01:45:48,732 --> 01:45:48,892 Speaker 6: Yep. 2174 01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:53,293 Speaker 2: And yet if you started having pots of boiling water 2175 01:45:53,372 --> 01:45:57,293 Speaker 2: around or smashing up your tools, then you would quickly 2176 01:45:57,532 --> 01:45:58,892 Speaker 2: be out of a job, would't you. Yeah? 2177 01:45:59,452 --> 01:46:01,412 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 2178 01:46:01,492 --> 01:46:04,572 Speaker 3: Nine two niney two is the text, Matt, I. 2179 01:46:04,612 --> 01:46:07,093 Speaker 2: Bet you have smashed your headphones or some other piece 2180 01:46:07,253 --> 01:46:12,333 Speaker 2: of your employersquipment. Not an anger, Yeah, I mean for fun. Yeah, yeah, 2181 01:46:12,492 --> 01:46:14,293 Speaker 2: who doesn't you know? It's a good time. They've got 2182 01:46:14,333 --> 01:46:17,052 Speaker 2: plenty of headphones here right now. I'm just unpucked picking 2183 01:46:17,093 --> 01:46:19,852 Speaker 2: the wires out of my Costkins monitors, just for fun. 2184 01:46:19,893 --> 01:46:21,772 Speaker 3: But that it's a good start to his morning, not 2185 01:46:21,772 --> 01:46:24,572 Speaker 3: because I'm angry, right, beg very shortly, but of course 2186 01:46:24,612 --> 01:46:25,133 Speaker 3: taking your calls. 2187 01:46:25,173 --> 01:46:27,213 Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty teen eighty eighteen to four 2188 01:46:28,692 --> 01:46:29,452 Speaker 2: your home. 2189 01:46:29,293 --> 01:46:33,732 Speaker 1: Of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call eight 2190 01:46:33,853 --> 01:46:35,612 Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight us talk. 2191 01:46:35,692 --> 01:46:37,452 Speaker 2: Say'd be sixteen to four. 2192 01:46:37,572 --> 01:46:41,012 Speaker 3: We are talking about athlete mountdowns. After Coco Gough smashed 2193 01:46:41,053 --> 01:46:44,173 Speaker 3: the hell out of a racket when she lost her 2194 01:46:44,293 --> 01:46:48,372 Speaker 3: match at the Australian Open, Is that fear play is 2195 01:46:48,452 --> 01:46:51,293 Speaker 3: it all part of the high pressure environment or does 2196 01:46:51,333 --> 01:46:52,812 Speaker 3: it make you lose respect for those guys? 2197 01:46:53,572 --> 01:46:54,532 Speaker 2: Sam, Welcome to the show. 2198 01:46:55,692 --> 01:47:00,093 Speaker 10: Here you go. If everybody was the same, the will 2199 01:47:00,213 --> 01:47:04,892 Speaker 10: was pretty boring place. Everybody. Everybody has like a way 2200 01:47:04,933 --> 01:47:07,492 Speaker 10: that they deal with certain things in sportman in business 2201 01:47:07,532 --> 01:47:10,213 Speaker 10: as well. But I played professional sport for a number 2202 01:47:10,213 --> 01:47:17,133 Speaker 10: of years and I had quite the temper as well 2203 01:47:17,213 --> 01:47:21,053 Speaker 10: when I was when I was playing that sport, and 2204 01:47:22,492 --> 01:47:24,972 Speaker 10: it was one that was a product of your environment 2205 01:47:25,173 --> 01:47:27,492 Speaker 10: when you were growing up to so your childhood plays 2206 01:47:27,492 --> 01:47:31,093 Speaker 10: a pretty big bearing part of that and the way 2207 01:47:31,173 --> 01:47:34,492 Speaker 10: you handle things everyone has. Everyone handles things slightly different. 2208 01:47:34,652 --> 01:47:39,333 Speaker 10: So to sort of judge a competitor whether on that 2209 01:47:40,452 --> 01:47:43,052 Speaker 10: is probably not the way to do it, because everybody 2210 01:47:43,173 --> 01:47:46,093 Speaker 10: is different and at the end of the day, she's 2211 01:47:46,133 --> 01:47:47,933 Speaker 10: where she is because of who she is and the 2212 01:47:47,973 --> 01:47:53,333 Speaker 10: way she's worked. And sometimes believe it or not, if 2213 01:47:53,372 --> 01:47:57,012 Speaker 10: you take certain players like Tiger Woods and certain other athletes, 2214 01:47:57,093 --> 01:48:00,892 Speaker 10: if they don't have that bent, they actually aren't able 2215 01:48:00,973 --> 01:48:05,612 Speaker 10: to move on and immediately cut off what just happened 2216 01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:08,812 Speaker 10: and to be able to move on, and every players, 2217 01:48:08,933 --> 01:48:10,812 Speaker 10: every player and every sportsman was actually different. 2218 01:48:11,133 --> 01:48:12,812 Speaker 2: Did you find it. Did you find sam that when 2219 01:48:12,853 --> 01:48:15,093 Speaker 2: you did vent in that kind of way, in a 2220 01:48:15,133 --> 01:48:18,173 Speaker 2: similar kind of way to Coco, that it helped or hindered, 2221 01:48:18,213 --> 01:48:19,213 Speaker 2: Did it help you move. 2222 01:48:19,173 --> 01:48:21,133 Speaker 6: On or or not? 2223 01:48:22,412 --> 01:48:22,452 Speaker 2: No? 2224 01:48:22,732 --> 01:48:26,812 Speaker 10: For me personally, me personally no, because I was not 2225 01:48:27,692 --> 01:48:30,213 Speaker 10: I didn't train my mind or my mind wasn't trained 2226 01:48:30,253 --> 01:48:35,333 Speaker 10: a certain way to handle it, whether I was internal 2227 01:48:35,612 --> 01:48:38,133 Speaker 10: or external. So even if I held it in which 2228 01:48:38,173 --> 01:48:40,852 Speaker 10: I tried for a period of time, it actually didn't work. 2229 01:48:41,253 --> 01:48:43,173 Speaker 10: There was no trigger that allowed me to move on 2230 01:48:43,213 --> 01:48:45,213 Speaker 10: because I hadn't trained my mind a certain way to 2231 01:48:45,293 --> 01:48:49,333 Speaker 10: do that. Whereas some of these athletes, they are actually trained, 2232 01:48:49,772 --> 01:48:52,133 Speaker 10: their brains have been wired a certain way to do that. 2233 01:48:52,372 --> 01:48:55,772 Speaker 10: So even someone like McEnroe, in order for him to 2234 01:48:55,853 --> 01:48:58,173 Speaker 10: let that out actually was him able to. It was 2235 01:48:58,213 --> 01:49:00,412 Speaker 10: like a mechanism which allowed him to move on and 2236 01:49:00,532 --> 01:49:03,293 Speaker 10: forget what had just happened. So like there's lots of 2237 01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:06,253 Speaker 10: lots of players who take someone like specially Tiger and Golf. 2238 01:49:06,692 --> 01:49:09,213 Speaker 10: He was notorious. He was probably the find player on 2239 01:49:09,293 --> 01:49:11,812 Speaker 10: tour for a number of years, but he knew he 2240 01:49:11,933 --> 01:49:13,973 Speaker 10: had to for some desirie. He had to do that 2241 01:49:14,053 --> 01:49:17,412 Speaker 10: in order so he could move on. There's other players 2242 01:49:17,452 --> 01:49:19,492 Speaker 10: that would that would hold it in or they don't 2243 01:49:19,572 --> 01:49:21,532 Speaker 10: need to because they went wide that way. 2244 01:49:21,812 --> 01:49:24,013 Speaker 2: Did you play? Were you in a team sport or 2245 01:49:24,333 --> 01:49:28,333 Speaker 2: a solo sports? Sam solo right? Because I think that's 2246 01:49:28,412 --> 01:49:30,852 Speaker 2: quite different solo, isn't it. Because in a team sport 2247 01:49:30,893 --> 01:49:33,852 Speaker 2: you've kind of got your mates around you that can 2248 01:49:33,933 --> 01:49:36,532 Speaker 2: go it's all right mate. Well you know rugby particularly 2249 01:49:36,652 --> 01:49:39,692 Speaker 2: right you you know, you knock the ball on, someone 2250 01:49:39,692 --> 01:49:41,333 Speaker 2: will come over a go. Let's go again, mate, tap 2251 01:49:41,372 --> 01:49:43,572 Speaker 2: you on the button, you keep going right. But but 2252 01:49:43,812 --> 01:49:45,893 Speaker 2: in solo sports it's it's you've got to find it 2253 01:49:45,973 --> 01:49:47,932 Speaker 2: in yourself pretty much. You've got your coaches, but you've 2254 01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:50,173 Speaker 2: got to find it in yourself to forgive yourself as 2255 01:49:50,213 --> 01:49:50,452 Speaker 2: it were. 2256 01:49:51,492 --> 01:49:53,812 Speaker 10: It does, it does, But a good team is made 2257 01:49:53,893 --> 01:49:56,692 Speaker 10: up of a group of individuals that care. But each 2258 01:49:56,772 --> 01:50:00,532 Speaker 10: individual has to play their part. And it's really like 2259 01:50:00,652 --> 01:50:04,372 Speaker 10: there's lots of rugby players, lots of coaches, lots of 2260 01:50:04,452 --> 01:50:08,572 Speaker 10: league players, lots especially AFL in Australia where you don't 2261 01:50:08,572 --> 01:50:11,093 Speaker 10: actually see the sideline tantrums that some of these guys 2262 01:50:11,133 --> 01:50:15,532 Speaker 10: are doing, especially the NFL players sports like that they 2263 01:50:15,812 --> 01:50:17,812 Speaker 10: some of them up in tables and all sorts of 2264 01:50:17,853 --> 01:50:20,572 Speaker 10: stuff that you actually don't get to see because the 2265 01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:23,372 Speaker 10: cameras aren't on it. I mean, Jacko, Jacko, the same 2266 01:50:23,412 --> 01:50:26,572 Speaker 10: aus AFL player was. He was notorious. He used to 2267 01:50:26,612 --> 01:50:30,492 Speaker 10: smash up locker rooms everything after the game. Right, Yeah, 2268 01:50:30,532 --> 01:50:32,093 Speaker 10: but not to not to say that's right. 2269 01:50:32,133 --> 01:50:34,532 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that different people have different approaches. 2270 01:50:34,893 --> 01:50:38,173 Speaker 10: We probably shouldn't judge someone based on that because they're 2271 01:50:38,173 --> 01:50:41,492 Speaker 10: actually not harming anyone else. They're only they're only. 2272 01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:44,532 Speaker 2: I guess they're harming the whoever has to fix a 2273 01:50:44,572 --> 01:50:47,133 Speaker 2: little bit around the change room. But I mean, I 2274 01:50:47,333 --> 01:50:51,052 Speaker 2: imagine she gets three rackets, so no doubt, I would. 2275 01:50:50,853 --> 01:50:52,852 Speaker 10: No doubt say they paid for it, just like the rolling. 2276 01:50:54,293 --> 01:50:59,492 Speaker 2: It's a good point charged when when Ben Stokes made 2277 01:50:59,532 --> 01:51:01,333 Speaker 2: that hole at Eaton Park, they didn't fact that they 2278 01:51:01,372 --> 01:51:04,412 Speaker 2: put a little they put a little frame around it. Yeah, Hey, Sam, 2279 01:51:04,492 --> 01:51:05,612 Speaker 2: what what do you mind? 2280 01:51:05,652 --> 01:51:05,692 Speaker 1: What? 2281 01:51:05,853 --> 01:51:08,973 Speaker 2: What telling us what what sport you played? Professionally? I 2282 01:51:09,173 --> 01:51:13,372 Speaker 2: would rather not say, okay, only saying we really appreciate 2283 01:51:13,412 --> 01:51:16,532 Speaker 2: your insights. Yeah, fantastic. Hey guys, you are really excelling 2284 01:51:16,572 --> 01:51:20,653 Speaker 2: in misogyny this week says this texture. Oh really, quite breathtaking, 2285 01:51:21,213 --> 01:51:23,412 Speaker 2: what with you two snowflakes needing a safe place for 2286 01:51:23,532 --> 01:51:25,333 Speaker 2: men this week and now having to have a crack 2287 01:51:25,372 --> 01:51:27,652 Speaker 2: at a woman who is simply doing what men do 2288 01:51:27,732 --> 01:51:29,812 Speaker 2: every day. You are such a cliche. I think you're 2289 01:51:29,812 --> 01:51:33,733 Speaker 2: a cliche, Jane, because you're saying that women can't be criticized. 2290 01:51:34,933 --> 01:51:36,652 Speaker 2: The story is irrelevant whether it was a man or 2291 01:51:36,692 --> 01:51:38,852 Speaker 2: a woman. If it happened to be a man that 2292 01:51:38,933 --> 01:51:40,412 Speaker 2: had done it, absolutely then. 2293 01:51:40,933 --> 01:51:43,293 Speaker 3: There was an elesenter who was freaking out and saying, no, 2294 01:51:43,412 --> 01:51:45,612 Speaker 3: that's not on. That was a private moment. We're talking 2295 01:51:45,692 --> 01:51:46,532 Speaker 3: about that as well. 2296 01:51:46,772 --> 01:51:48,972 Speaker 2: And I don't think we were asking for a safe 2297 01:51:49,013 --> 01:51:52,972 Speaker 2: place for men yesterday. Weren't we saying to be a man, 2298 01:51:53,213 --> 01:51:55,293 Speaker 2: you absorb stress so others don't have to and things 2299 01:51:55,372 --> 01:51:57,372 Speaker 2: like that. Isn't that kind of the opposite of a 2300 01:51:57,452 --> 01:51:59,973 Speaker 2: so called safe space, So, Jane, you're a cliche. I mean, 2301 01:52:00,412 --> 01:52:01,852 Speaker 2: that's a ridiculous thing that happens. 2302 01:52:01,893 --> 01:52:02,013 Speaker 13: Now. 2303 01:52:02,053 --> 01:52:04,972 Speaker 2: If you ever comment on anything that a woman does, 2304 01:52:05,652 --> 01:52:08,932 Speaker 2: it's misogyny. Yeah, I think it was going to treat 2305 01:52:08,973 --> 01:52:10,333 Speaker 2: everyone equally, right. 2306 01:52:10,372 --> 01:52:13,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, we'll take a quick break and 2307 01:52:13,293 --> 01:52:15,213 Speaker 3: beck very shortly, but taking your calls on O one 2308 01:52:15,293 --> 01:52:16,652 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty, ten eighty. 2309 01:52:16,732 --> 01:52:17,452 Speaker 2: It's ten to four. 2310 01:52:18,372 --> 01:52:21,732 Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 2311 01:52:22,093 --> 01:52:23,052 Speaker 4: everything in between. 2312 01:52:23,293 --> 01:52:26,493 Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us talks. 2313 01:52:26,253 --> 01:52:26,532 Speaker 6: It be. 2314 01:52:28,253 --> 01:52:30,852 Speaker 3: News Talks it B seven to four. Now we are 2315 01:52:30,853 --> 01:52:32,972 Speaker 3: talking about athlete meltdowns. And a few people have mentioned 2316 01:52:33,053 --> 01:52:35,652 Speaker 3: Roger Federer. Have you ever seen him break a record 2317 01:52:35,812 --> 01:52:38,492 Speaker 3: or freak out? And not many people have. But here's 2318 01:52:38,532 --> 01:52:41,012 Speaker 3: a little bit of a commencement speech he did about 2319 01:52:41,053 --> 01:52:43,293 Speaker 3: his mentality when it comes to losing. 2320 01:52:43,572 --> 01:52:48,093 Speaker 17: And tennis perfection is impossible. In the one thousand and 2321 01:52:48,213 --> 01:52:51,692 Speaker 17: five and twenty six singles matches I played in my career, 2322 01:52:52,173 --> 01:52:56,052 Speaker 17: I won almost eighty percent of those matches. 2323 01:52:56,133 --> 01:52:57,893 Speaker 2: Now I have a question for you. 2324 01:52:58,532 --> 01:53:02,092 Speaker 17: What percentage of points do you think I wanted those matches? 2325 01:53:04,253 --> 01:53:08,253 Speaker 17: Only fifty four percent? In other words, even top ranked 2326 01:53:08,333 --> 01:53:12,253 Speaker 17: tennis players when barely more than half of the points 2327 01:53:12,492 --> 01:53:15,532 Speaker 17: they play. When you lose every second point on average, 2328 01:53:16,053 --> 01:53:19,213 Speaker 17: you learn not to dwell on every shot. You teach 2329 01:53:19,253 --> 01:53:23,652 Speaker 17: yourself to think, Okay, I double faulted, It's only a point. Okay, 2330 01:53:23,692 --> 01:53:25,412 Speaker 17: I came to the net and I got past again, 2331 01:53:26,213 --> 01:53:29,612 Speaker 17: it's only a point. Even a great shot, an overhead 2332 01:53:29,692 --> 01:53:33,053 Speaker 17: back and smash that ends up on ESPN's Top ten playlist, 2333 01:53:33,612 --> 01:53:36,572 Speaker 17: that too, is just a point. So here's why I'm 2334 01:53:36,612 --> 01:53:39,692 Speaker 17: telling you this. When you're playing a point, it has 2335 01:53:39,772 --> 01:53:41,412 Speaker 17: to be the most important thing in the world, and 2336 01:53:41,492 --> 01:53:44,652 Speaker 17: it is. But when it's behind you, it's behind you. 2337 01:53:45,492 --> 01:53:45,972 Speaker 6: The guy. 2338 01:53:46,093 --> 01:53:48,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's behind you, it's behind you, lose the match. 2339 01:53:48,372 --> 01:53:50,492 Speaker 2: I I it's smash up. You're dressing your room. 2340 01:53:50,612 --> 01:53:50,772 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2341 01:53:51,213 --> 01:53:53,732 Speaker 2: A bunch of people saying my example of chefs not 2342 01:53:53,853 --> 01:53:57,173 Speaker 2: smashing up the kitchen is a bad example because Matt 2343 01:53:57,293 --> 01:54:00,492 Speaker 2: over a lifetime, seen many chiefs, expecially emotions. Knives being 2344 01:54:00,572 --> 01:54:04,293 Speaker 2: thrown can be a bit to in this person seeds 2345 01:54:04,333 --> 01:54:07,532 Speaker 2: to be feared decide a chief is a pretty bad example, 2346 01:54:07,572 --> 01:54:10,732 Speaker 2: obviouslying plenty of them throw tantrums. Thanks Pete, thank you 2347 01:54:10,772 --> 01:54:13,093 Speaker 2: for your text. A way to start it with. But 2348 01:54:13,093 --> 01:54:17,173 Speaker 2: I'll take it. Yeah, yeah, Jim, We've got about a 2349 01:54:17,253 --> 01:54:18,973 Speaker 2: minute here to hear your point of view. 2350 01:54:19,053 --> 01:54:23,692 Speaker 21: Good afternoon, gentlemen. I'll be very quick. Just I'll just 2351 01:54:23,812 --> 01:54:26,932 Speaker 21: mentioned Roger Federer. He must have had a dartist datus 2352 01:54:27,213 --> 01:54:28,572 Speaker 21: statist working for him. 2353 01:54:29,452 --> 01:54:30,133 Speaker 2: That's pretty good at that. 2354 01:54:30,293 --> 01:54:35,133 Speaker 21: Yeah, as I understand that footage was taken from a 2355 01:54:35,213 --> 01:54:36,052 Speaker 21: security camera. 2356 01:54:36,253 --> 01:54:37,693 Speaker 2: Well that's dirty. That's dirty. 2357 01:54:37,733 --> 01:54:40,373 Speaker 21: If that's the case, there is if it was that, 2358 01:54:40,613 --> 01:54:43,613 Speaker 21: that is dirty and somebody's contract. He looked at Yeah, 2359 01:54:43,973 --> 01:54:45,493 Speaker 21: that's my that's that's. 2360 01:54:45,373 --> 01:54:47,973 Speaker 2: My It might have been, but they had access to it. 2361 01:54:48,093 --> 01:54:49,892 Speaker 2: I think they had access to it into the broadcast 2362 01:54:49,893 --> 01:54:53,573 Speaker 2: because he's commentary from the behind that, so you might 2363 01:54:53,653 --> 01:54:56,533 Speaker 2: be right. It might be CCTV. It was that was 2364 01:54:56,573 --> 01:54:58,812 Speaker 2: called on security camera not being allowed back in because 2365 01:54:58,812 --> 01:55:01,653 Speaker 2: he didn't have his lanyard. Yeah, and then he just 2366 01:55:01,772 --> 01:55:03,093 Speaker 2: said that was cal We didn't get angry at the 2367 01:55:03,093 --> 01:55:05,973 Speaker 2: security guard. He was just like, Okay, I can't get in. 2368 01:55:06,053 --> 01:55:06,693 Speaker 2: I don't have the right. 2369 01:55:07,253 --> 01:55:07,373 Speaker 18: You know. 2370 01:55:07,413 --> 01:55:09,173 Speaker 2: It's the star of the tournam. It's super nice guy. 2371 01:55:09,333 --> 01:55:10,812 Speaker 2: But he's a great guy. Hey, thanks you called. 2372 01:55:10,893 --> 01:55:11,053 Speaker 16: Jim. 2373 01:55:11,253 --> 01:55:14,333 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Yeah, what a great discussion that brings 2374 01:55:14,373 --> 01:55:16,413 Speaker 2: us to the end of the show. It certainly does. 2375 01:55:16,573 --> 01:55:19,373 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for tuning in today, and I 2376 01:55:19,493 --> 01:55:24,613 Speaker 2: really appreciate all your calls and texts. We'll be back 2377 01:55:24,653 --> 01:55:27,892 Speaker 2: tomorrow with another edition of Matt until afternoons. But right now, Tyler, 2378 01:55:28,293 --> 01:55:31,413 Speaker 2: why am I playing this, this particular song, I got 2379 01:55:31,453 --> 01:55:31,852 Speaker 2: no idea. 2380 01:55:32,853 --> 01:55:33,293 Speaker 12: I like it. 2381 01:55:33,453 --> 01:55:35,613 Speaker 2: It's funky. What's the name of the title, Well, it's 2382 01:55:35,693 --> 01:55:41,293 Speaker 2: because Chloe Corbrick said in parliament that a lot of 2383 01:55:41,333 --> 01:55:44,333 Speaker 2: people were having so many slugs in their bathrooms now 2384 01:55:44,373 --> 01:55:45,892 Speaker 2: that they're having to name them and that was an 2385 01:55:46,133 --> 01:55:51,413 Speaker 2: example of hardship. Yes, so the closest song if you 2386 01:55:51,453 --> 01:55:53,052 Speaker 2: get to that as there's a rat in the kitchen, 2387 01:55:53,093 --> 01:55:55,653 Speaker 2: all right, Well, okay, well played? Is that? Okay? 2388 01:55:55,812 --> 01:55:55,972 Speaker 17: Yeah? 2389 01:55:56,053 --> 01:55:59,093 Speaker 2: That is okay, That is close enough. All right, then 2390 01:56:00,173 --> 01:56:02,533 Speaker 2: see you tomorrow afternoon, and until then, give them a 2391 01:56:02,573 --> 01:56:06,093 Speaker 2: taste a kiwi from Tyler and I Love you Jim. 2392 01:56:30,933 --> 01:56:33,493 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 2393 01:56:33,653 --> 01:56:36,573 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2394 01:56:36,653 --> 01:56:39,213 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio