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Speaker 1: Afternoon. Looks like we're getting closer to a referendum on

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Speaker 1: the four year term for governments. The Justice Select Committee

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Speaker 1: has recommended stripping out some of the more complicated parts

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Speaker 1: of this particular law, which is caused David Seymour, who

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Speaker 1: actually sponsored the law, to walk away from supporting it.

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Speaker 1: But it does seem that every other party in Parliament

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Speaker 1: still supports it. Andrew Bailey is the chair of the

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Speaker 1: Justice Select Committee and with us Hey Andrew Hello is

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Speaker 1: the National Party going to vote for this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, that's a decision for a caucus, but it's

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Speaker 2: had almost unanimous agreement across the committee that we should

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Speaker 2: put it to a referendum. The question is.

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Speaker 1: When twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Well, from a committee perspective, we suggested both twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six or twenty twenty nine, but we did note that

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Speaker 2: if you want to try and do it next year,

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Speaker 2: it's the government's call whether it might at the coup

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Speaker 2: of issues. Significant issues one is that how do you

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Speaker 2: coincide central central government elections alongside local council elections under

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Speaker 2: the proposed term that was going to be bearable, so

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Speaker 2: they might end up having elections in the same year

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Speaker 2: and the second thing, there's quite a large reform of

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Speaker 2: electoral laws going through that the committee's looking at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and so we've said, given that and the capacity issues

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Speaker 2: within Electoral Commission to be able to handle all that,

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Speaker 2: we just said, if you want to do it next year,

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Speaker 2: there will be challenging.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so more likely twenty twenty nine. Then what checks

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Speaker 1: are you putting in to replace what you've stripped out?

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Speaker 1: Read the select committees?

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Speaker 2: We haven't. The issue was did the proposal in the

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Speaker 2: bill work? And there are a lot of submitters who

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Speaker 2: said that it wouldn't, and the committee came to a

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Speaker 2: view apart from active one. It came to a view

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Speaker 2: that the complicated structure around the different types of committee

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Speaker 2: arrangements just wouldn't work under that situation. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that a future government might look at other options it,

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Speaker 2: but I think the central theme around whether we should

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Speaker 2: have a referendum on three year or four year term

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Speaker 2: more centers around the issue around is it more effective

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Speaker 2: for governments and ministers are able to do their job

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Speaker 2: in that longer term. And one might argue that if

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Speaker 2: it is a four year term, maybe it's more lucky

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Speaker 2: that governments get turfed out after only one term of

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Speaker 2: four years rather than three years.

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Speaker 1: Which are you arguing, Are you arguing you don't need

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Speaker 1: any more checks, you don't need to add in a

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Speaker 1: new layer of checks.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying the committee

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Speaker 2: we had to consider the bill that was in front

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Speaker 2: of us and that had a certain proposal in it

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Speaker 2: which the Committee came to a view that was too complicated.

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Speaker 2: So on that basis we couldn't support it. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that might be other ways to look at.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there should be if we extend

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Speaker 1: it from three to four years, we should add another.

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Speaker 2: Check in you asked me personally, Well, that's a different thing.

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Speaker 2: I can say what the committee's view on it. I

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Speaker 2: think personally i'd think it's benefit about having a four

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Speaker 2: year term. But you know, there's a lot of different

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Speaker 2: views on that. But the issue is, I think the

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Speaker 2: central issues whether we get more effective government around having

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Speaker 2: a longer term.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Andrew, thanks very much, appreciate it. Andrew Bailey,

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