1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: We've got a blueprint that lays out this country's AI targets. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: This is from a committee made up of you know, 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: your Amazon's, your A and Z Zero's whole bunch of 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: others who think AI can boost GDP and productivity. AI 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Forum New Zealand executive director Madaline Newman is with us medline. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Good morning. I'm just looking at 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: your website. You've got nine thousand people working for you. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Everyone's on board. What's going on there? 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Actually, you don't have very many people working for us 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: at all, but we do have a lot of a 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: lot of members. So we've got there made up of 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: probably about seven percent government, about seven percent academia and 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: the balancer businesses, so creators, implementers, advisors and users of technology. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: How many people in the group sit there and go, 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: you know what, this might just be more hype than 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: it is reality versus how many people in the group go, 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: this is going to take us to places we never imagined. 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: I think that you join AI for them because of 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: the latter. You recognize the power and the potential power 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: of it to to help New Zealand become a world 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: leading hub basically for responsible AI for the benefit of 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: everyone and to help leak that productivity gap is. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: The level of individuality with an AI for us to 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: be world leading in anything versus everyone to be world 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: leading because we all recognize the same advantages no matter 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: where in the world we are. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, we've got some really globally valuable strategic assets that 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: set alongside them. So people often think that, for example, 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: that New Zealand's a bit of a back quarter, and 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't want people to think that from an AI perspective, 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: we are really good at this stuff. We have some 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: absolutely excellent research and developers in this country and we've 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: grown some amazing companies across a number of different sectors 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: as a result of that. Some of those things, and 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: they're possibly that boring has hosted people to think about 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: but data. So we've got really nationally significant data sets 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: that are accurate, complete, reliable, relevant, timely that are super valuable. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: I mean later this morning, but personal that this morning. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm going from mammogram. Now, our mammogram test results and 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: pictures have been used to train or are being used, 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: sorry to train artificial intelligence that can help detect cancer, 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: empress much earlier and much more effectively help our esteeent 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: radiongists to do their job better and faster. 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: That's now, that's a very good example. Can it do 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: that now or will it be able to do it? 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Or it might be able to do it. 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: So there are working examples of both of those. So 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: Volpara is an organization out of New Zealand that recently 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: I think it's been it's been told, but I can't 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: remember to home which EXAC has done exactly that. There 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: is another one called Frontline Diagnostics again done that. It's 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: in clinical trials in the US. 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Apparently do we know when this is going to hit us? 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: In a look at this? This is how materially different 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: it is or has it already? 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: I think for some people that already has and for 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: others we're sort of staying well. Our key message is 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: get on board and take the productivity gains that can 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: it can potentially give you. And I talk to a 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: lot of teachers, for example. Now, the average for somebody 61 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: just using generative the usual tools that's sort of freely 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: available out there in a kind of way, the average, 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: according to Delute, is something like five point four hours 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: a week. You can save in time else we can 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: give teachers back five hours a week. How amazing is 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: that you know you've spend that time building bitter humans. 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: What's what's the vibe on bad actors and how this 68 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: is going to go wrong? In some sectors. 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: There are always bad actors, and our emphasis is on 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: the good actors. So if it's a fight between good 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: and evil, we want we obviously want more good actors 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. We don't seem to have. There don't 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: seem to be terribly many homegrown bad actors, which is great, 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: But this is an international an international technology, so we 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: do need to be keenly aware of things so that. 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Most interesting times go well. I appreciate it very much. 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Medline Newman, who is the AI Forum New Zealand executive directory. 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 79 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio