1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: It will be a first job Sammy Final on Friday, 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Saca smashes her way into a first rollo Gail's. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Final patience will a chance to win it? 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Final second still fouls to do, Haliburton, walking, halt, driving, 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: poss up, jump shot. Let's go on with three tons 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: of a second remaining, tie him out. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Okay, see Tyrenes. Haliburton does it again. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Hay on the huddle with us this evening. In the 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: sports title, Mat Brown, boss of communications at Oceania Football, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: and Andrew Gordy, sports commentator, Hello you too right now, 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Andrew Gordy, do you want to say gooday to him? 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Or did you read. 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: I see here? Before we go any further though, I said, 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: we need to offer a hard and congratulations you are 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: on your award last night give a sports panel. I 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: feel like we need to offer sort of some sporting 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: punditary analysis off your award and your impact across the season. 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Matt, I don't know about you, but when 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: I see when I see dupussy Allen on the team sheet, 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: it just it brings a whole other level to the game. 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: Doesn't know. 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: The park and everything you know? Do you know what 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: I do? 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: You absolutely, And can I just say this very quickly, 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I am never ever going to be horrible to any 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: of those sports players for when they you know, when 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: they win something and they come and give the world's 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: most boring speech. Because I said earlier, I said what 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I would have said if I was there, and somebody 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: text me and was like, it was a good thing 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: you weren't there. That was really boring And it's really 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: hard to put together a good speech, isn't it. 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Well, apparently Lord did a great job. There you go, 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: and unless the ratings always spoke Andrew at around about 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: five pin forty on a Friday, anyway, that's what you 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: do with that, of. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Course, nothing to do with So that's when we bring 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: in our impact players, which is what you. 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: Guys are Matt just riding the pie man. 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I've got to say I feel sorry for Rob that 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: he's got that accent, because there is nothing more that 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: we like doing than being really mean to foreigners. And 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the minute that he does something, we don't because we're 44 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: mean to Gary. But we're going to be very mean 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: to Rob, aren't we. 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: So sure? I think I think because as a rugby player, 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: rug if somebody had a South African coach in the 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: your Blacks definitely, I think. But for cricket, no, I 49 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: mean think of Grand Elliott, the South African accent winning 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: that World Cup. Semi fine on that incredible, but he 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: was the greatest match in New Zealand. No, it wasn't 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: a coach, but we've had a lot of South African 53 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: influence in the New Zealand side over the years. Yet 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: one stage, the first Vola Ellen Donald was an assistant coach. 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, look, I think good luck to him. He's 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: got a good record, very good record, both domestically here 57 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: and obviously with what the prote is and getting too 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: that last one. 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Remember you remember what I'm saying now, And the first 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: time that he does something that we know because we 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: called for Gary's head at least about seven times, and 62 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: the first time that we call for for his head, 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: it's going to that's going to come up, is not y, 64 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: I bet you, Gordy. Do you think that the truth 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: about why they wouldn't give why they wouldn't give Gary 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the one you know, the red ball and somebody else 67 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: the white ball in the other formats and whatnot, is 68 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: because we simply don't have enough players to split between 69 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: two or three coaches. Is that the truth. 70 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's enough players, but I just 71 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: I think it's the right call to keep one touch 72 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: across three formats. I don't think that's a that's not 73 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: a blanket view that I have, But when you have 74 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: a certain number of players who compete across all three formats, 75 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: if you had completely different sets of players for blackball 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: and red ball, I think it would. It would work 77 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: it with suit having two coaches, but not when there's 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: that crossover, because then if you have two coaches, you 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: have two completely sets of different sort of expectations, ways 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: of running the team, completely different cultures. So I think 81 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: it's the right call, and I think New Zealand Cricket 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: has made the right call by giving it to Rob. 83 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: No offense to BONDI, but I think Rob has great 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: experience both within New Zealand domestic cricket and the national 85 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: cricket as a head coach. So I like the call. 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah you agree with that? 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: That absolutely? Yeah? I can't agree more with the Really 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: what introduce said there? I think look, he's residing hawk 89 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Stay best part of the country as well, So yeah, 90 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: and all serious to say, yeah, I think it is 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: a student move and I'm not sure we do have 92 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: that much depth. The depth really at the top level. 93 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: Two have three different sets of players. I mean there 94 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: is going to be cross over. There always will be here. 95 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: Some of the best players will be able to play 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: multiple forms of the game. 97 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, take a break, come back to you 98 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: very shortly. The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: of E's International real Zy, the ones with local and 100 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: global reach shrut your back with the Sports Hitle Andrew 101 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Gordy and Matt Brown Gordy listen. Pretty much everybody who 102 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: matters reckons that the playoffs format for the Super Rugby 103 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: What do you think, I think you're a loser if 105 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: you like having a lucky loser in the Super Rugby 106 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: playoffs is what I think. It just stinks, doesn't know. 107 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm firmly of the belief that when you get to 108 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: the quarterfinals, in the semi finals, they should be knockout 109 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: and so the idea that you can lose a quarter 110 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: final and still advance to the next round just thinks 111 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: to me. And I especially hate that the Brumbies Hurricanes 112 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: game is the last game of the round. It would 113 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: make more sense if that was, say, the first time 114 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: of the round, because then they're waiting to sort of 115 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: learn their fate. The reality is that both of those 116 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: teams are likely, based on the book, is odds to 117 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: know their fate by the time they go into that 118 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: game at nine thirty five on Saturday. 119 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, adds a bit of jeopardy to it, Elliott Smith. So, Matt, 120 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: what Elliot Smith says should happen is that you rest 121 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: the two top teams, which would be the Blues and 122 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: the Crusaders, right, and then you let the other four 123 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: do sudden death, and then two get to advance and 124 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: play the two top teams and then well. 125 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: That's what Yeah, that's what I've been the A League 126 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: you had that, although although it was a two legged 127 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: semi final, is a difference in the football scenario. But yeah, 128 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: it's either one. It's either you know, three plays what 129 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: three plays six? Four places five and then the two 130 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: teams under a sixteen finals format if you move away 131 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: from straight quarter finals. Look, last week I was completely 132 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: confused because I was actually watching right than my dad, 133 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: and we were working out the permitations and that's actually 134 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: what I thought happened. So there you go. I was 135 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: completely wrong. And then I was driving somewhere and hearing 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: that format and thinking, oh my goodness, this is just 137 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: so wrong on so many and the fact that the 138 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: Hurricanes and Brumby's both of that could well get a 139 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: second life. 140 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey, listen to what do you guys think? Gordie else 141 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: start with you. What do you think about the netball huddle? 142 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: Is that lame? 143 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: It's really lame and it's just outdated. I think it's 144 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: unrealistic in the in the professional era to expect players 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: to continue to do that. Having said that, I think 146 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: the game of netball's got much better problems on hands 147 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: than whether both teams should come together in a huddle 148 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: at full time, you know. 149 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah, that's a fair point, isn't it. 150 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: But we can start with the lame thing, can't we met? 151 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. I mean teams that you know you're 152 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: playing hard out on the court. I mean, when you 153 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: Sealing in Australia play the Silver Fans. I mean it 154 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: always It's always occurred to me as being this nicey 155 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: niciness at the end of the game. Come on, you're 156 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: hard en, up, hard and up. 157 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: You want you want to prop a scrap a If 158 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: you're going to scrap, you don't want to stand there 159 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: with your arms around your sweaty mate? 160 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: Do you play? 161 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Who wants to get your your mate sweet all over 162 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: your arm pits, isn't it? 163 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: Now? 164 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon Gordon that Liam Lawson has, you know, 165 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: is entitled to feel a little bit pipped because these 166 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: guys are giving you key some time and support, but 167 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: he never had that. 168 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I understand what you're saying, so long as 169 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: you actually believe what rear Ball is saying to him. 170 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Why should we believe anything that comes out of the 171 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: mouth of these Red Bull bosses. Because it was absolute 172 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: lip service when it came to Liam Lawson. What's to 173 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: say it's not completing outer lip service when it comes 174 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: to Uki Sonoda as well. Now do I actually believe that? 175 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: No? 176 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't. I think they will give them the time 177 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: and support that he apparently needs, because I think there's 178 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: strong forces at play when it comes to deciding which 179 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: drivers fill which seats at which manufacturer. But yeah, I 180 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: would feel a bit aggrieved by as Liam Lawson, But 181 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily be taking everything these Red Bull bosses 182 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: say as absolute true, maybe we wait and see what happens. 183 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Point by the way, apparently it's the Chief's Crusaders, not 184 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: the Blues Crusaders. 185 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: Chief is the Chiefs Blues, inn't it? 186 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: He's still confused? 187 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: See not, no, no, not who's playing each other? I said, 188 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: who the top two teams are. It's not the Blues 189 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: and the Crusaders, the Chiefs and the Crusaders. 190 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, giving them both a weak off. Yeah. 191 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: No, one should listen to me about Super Rugby. I 192 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: don't watch it famously in my world. Matt, listen, can 193 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: you weigh on on something for me? Because you are 194 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: a media boss, aren't You're a media boss, aren't you? 195 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah? 196 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars for 197 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: the media boss of the Ministry of Disabled People. A 198 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: little bit on the march side. 199 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm in the wrong job. I'm definitely in the wrong 200 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: job if it is. Oh yeah, exactly, I mean I 201 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: would have thought. So what do they do anyway? 202 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Well, they just call for more ramps and iPads, don't they, 203 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: and then tell them tell the National government off when 204 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: they take stuff away from disabled people. I mean, it's 205 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: the easiest job in the world, doesn't it. 206 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: I don't want to get my TV ready this weekend, 207 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: but any. 208 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Okay, no, well anyway, listen, it just got to seek 209 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: and I'll send you the Lincoln a minute. 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