1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: The kids at a school south of Auckland are allegedly 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: missing out on free school lunches because the staff and 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: NI Kingdom beforehand. A parent of students at Tuacar College 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: says that her kids had come home hungry for a 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: month because they've been missing out. Secondary Principals Association President 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Vaughn Queil is with us. Now, hey, Vaughn, how are 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: you well? Thank you? Vaughan sounds to me like this 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: was happening a because the principles admitted he's had to 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: tell the staff not to take the food. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a little scandalous as far as 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: being honest with you. We all know that the Healthy 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: School Lunch's program is there to put kids and put 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: food in the hands of kids who who need it. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: And sure, if there's something left over and everyone's had 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: to go with there's a spear rap sitting on the bench. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: You know that's better than throwing it in the bin. 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: But it has to go to the kids first, doesn't it. 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of anything like this before? 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: No? 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: No, so literally this is and you're just inborn right, 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: You're not You're you are the association president. You will 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: have heard if this was going. 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: On, absolutely, and there's a number of secondary schools, large, small, 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: or whatever primary schools, you've got these lunches going out on. 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: It's a logistically massive exercise and there's always surplus left over, 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: and it's good to roll model eating with students in 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: your class and all that sort of stuff, not at 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: the expense of the hungry child sitting in front of you. 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: What does this tell us about the way that we 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: are doing this particular program. I mean, if it's open 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: to being gamed like this and teachers just nicking off 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: with the gluten free stuff, first, there's a problem, isn't there. 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's if it's happening. So that the truth is 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: often somewhere in the middle between maybe your side of 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: the story and these and so I'd want a little 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: bit more information before I was going to cast judgment 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: on them. However, the intent of the program, it's certainly 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: high trust, but it sort of needs to be because 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: it's logistically huge, right, getting that many lunches into people's hands, 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: and so you trust the integrity of the workforce, particularly 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: the teaching workforce, and so it's not necessarily a flaw 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: with the program. It's probably some misinterpretation from the grown 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: ups that are helping support it. 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Misinterpretation. How can you misinterpret and take the food before 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the kids even get it. 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, well, they might have thought everyone had been fed, 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: they might have thought it was sup plus. So it's 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: always better to go and ask in questions rather than 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: making statements. However, if kids are going hungry, someone's getting 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: it wrong. 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So the problem here what this is going 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: to do, undoubtedly is it's going to turn people off. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: If people already sort of are not super keen on 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: paying for other people's kids to eat at school, this 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: is going to just turn them off even more, isn't it. 56 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yes, but this is more than likely a 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: very isolated incident where people have got it wrong, if 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: it is indeed happening, because I know that for example, 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: on my campus, we have first lunch going out. It's 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock in the morning, get a payload in there, 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: and then anything that's left over. Kids come back around 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: for another go at lunchtime, and then anything that's again 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: left over, if staff need to grab one, they can. 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: But also our provider does excess that they don't charge 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: the ministry for in order to support stuff in that process. 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: So there's ways to there's ways to make it all 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: look and feel good. But yeah, there's there's lots of 68 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: good work happening in this lunch program across the country, 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: and I would hate for one site that might be 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: getting it wrong to to impact all the others. 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Thank you Vaughan, appreciate it. There's Vunquel Secretary Principals Association President. 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Of course it's to a cow college when the look 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: in the food. Of course it is what school did 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: I go to? To a cour college? That's how we 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: roll down there, get in first before the others. Can 76 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you got it? You know, like the earliest uff gets 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: the worm, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, disappointing that to 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: ak our college is not talking to me because I 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm an old I'm an old girl. 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: Tell them what I'm an old I don't feel like 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: that kind like a desol to school is the kind 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: of one that past people's traditionally called themselves old girls. 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: And do you know what I mean? 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: So? 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Was is this al to the crappy end of the scale? 86 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: Is it desil nine? Yet we would sell too hard 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: out of fact, I think we were desole one when 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I was there. Anyway, school's principal doesn't did not even 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: clearly clearly, I did not learn my manners from that school, 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: did not even respond to us, did not even get 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: back to us. However, has told other media Rude Chris 92 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: that kids had missed it did not know that kids 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: had missed out for a month, but has admitted there 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: were some instances where staff did get the meals before 95 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: the students did, so there's no dispute about these facts anyway. 96 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: So as a result, started texting one of my mates 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: who was the head girl, and we were just we 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: were having a little bit of a game of guessing 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: which of the teachers nick them first. And I think 100 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: we agree, we both we both think we know. 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