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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealander, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show, Podcast number two to nine for the

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth of October. It's a Friday. It was a

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Speaker 2: funny old show today. Enjoyed it. It was light. We've

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Speaker 2: had some quite intense shows lately, and that you've got

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Speaker 2: to describe that one is light.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Great chat about Grannie Flats in some wedding photography. Ah oh,

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Speaker 4: you shared a quite a story about some bad behavior

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk S ed B.

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Speaker 4: Very good afternoon. Do you welcome into Tuesday show? Hope

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Speaker 4: you're doing well. We're Evia in the country.

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Speaker 2: Get a met get a Tyler got a great new

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Speaker 2: Zella's for tuning into the show. Undred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty is the number nine. Two ninety two is a

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Speaker 2: way to text us. Yes, In fact, it's the only

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Speaker 2: way you can text us nicely.

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Speaker 4: You see it.

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Speaker 2: You're not giving out our personal numbers nice yet, just yet.

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Speaker 2: Now on the weekend, Tyler, you you baby sat my

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Speaker 2: dog Colin over and overnight.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Colin came round for a bit of a sleepover. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I've got to say, mate, the perfect HouseGuest.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 4: Just he loves a snuggle. Yeah, and he ruled the roost.

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Speaker 4: I've got to say. So, Pepper is greyhound. She's about

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Speaker 4: three times the size of Colin. But instantly when you

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Speaker 4: brought Colin around, you could see he was going to

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Speaker 4: be the boss of that situation. Uh, and people loved it.

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Speaker 4: After they it only took about twenty minutes. Then they

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Speaker 4: were sleeping next to each other or sing you that photo. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it was just like a wee Disney movie.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? Dogs? How they've got no idea what

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Speaker 2: size they are? Yeah. So Colin's just this tiny little unit.

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Speaker 2: Can just run straight under Pepper yep, without even touching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his ears wouldn't even tickle her belly. And yet

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Speaker 2: he's like, no, stay away from my bed. And then

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Speaker 2: just went into your house and went straight in and

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Speaker 2: started eating Pepper's food.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was disappointed. People didn't do anything. She just

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Speaker 4: sat there and watched Colin devour her whole biscuits. But

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Speaker 4: good on them, you know.

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Speaker 2: Actually another issue over the weekend is I gave you

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Speaker 2: an old tint of mine in an old canvas tent. Yeah, fantastic,

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Speaker 2: the Cacao Caca po tent. Yeah, And I dropped it

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Speaker 2: around to you. But I had a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: realized I hadn't put I hadn't put the back down,

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Speaker 2: heaps of crazy just miscellaneous items that could have just

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Speaker 2: just didn't just happened to add a pure dumb lot,

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Speaker 2: not including the tent I was giving you. Yeah, fly

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Speaker 2: out the back of the truck.

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Speaker 4: The best part of it was the LPG Canniscy you

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Speaker 4: And then came out with Colin and the dog and

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Speaker 4: then you see it. I've just left the bloody door

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Speaker 4: open on the truck an Allen. Nothing came out.

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Speaker 2: There was an LPG canister. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they don't explode. I saw something in

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Speaker 2: the you know, the protests with there throwing LPG canisters

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Speaker 2: the game man Charted and video games. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean I could of course, major mayhem.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, you're a tinny bugger.

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Speaker 2: That's another issue.

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Speaker 4: Right on to today's show.

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Speaker 2: Hey this six is, Hey, Matt, the Dodgers suck out come.

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Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa wow. Tyler Glasno is about to pitch

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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers in Game three of the World Series.

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Speaker 2: It's one apiece. Tyler Glasnow's six foot eight in an

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Speaker 2: absolute stud So how dare you say the Dodgers suck

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Speaker 2: they rule?

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Speaker 4: He's got beautiful here, Yeah, yeah, stunning, stunning looking guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's up on the telly, by the way, so you'll

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Speaker 2: How would you take something so hateful?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, mate, right on to today's show after

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Speaker 4: three o'clock. This is an issue near and dear to

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Speaker 4: when it comes to open plan living.

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Speaker 2: Mat Yeah, that's right. I'm moving into a house and

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Speaker 2: I'm getting some advice from people on how to renovate it,

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Speaker 2: and everyone's just open it up, turn it into a cabin,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just asking why is that? Why have we

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Speaker 2: gone so far down that route? When it comes to

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Speaker 2: houses in New Zealand, I say, bring back the hobbit ole,

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Speaker 2: bring back the maize. Why do we have to live

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a big one. We've already

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Speaker 4: had small.

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Speaker 2: Isolated areas, weird knocks and crannies. Bring them back.

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Speaker 4: This whole opening everything up, bring the maze back.

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Speaker 2: I'm angry about it.

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Speaker 4: You are very angry about it, and a lot a

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Speaker 4: lot of listeners are angry as well. But that is

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Speaker 4: after three o'clock. After two o'clock, it seems more and

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Speaker 4: more young families are moving away from the big cities.

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Speaker 4: Arguably it's not just because of the lifestyle. They say

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Speaker 4: it's getting too expensive and the big cities for food,

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Speaker 2: Is it really that much cheaper in the small towns.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to ask on one hundred and

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Speaker 2: so much more expensive in taking housing out of there?

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Speaker 2: Obviously houses are more expensive in Auckland, that's a given

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Speaker 4: Yeap, looking forward to that after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 4: let's have a chat about parking. The number of drivers

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Speaker 4: this new technology. They issued more than five hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighteen thousand finds last year. That's almost twice as many

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Speaker 4: and the most common type of infringement was failing to

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Speaker 4: pay for parking in paid zones. Boom, that's seventy bucks

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm angry about this, and I think that the

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Speaker 2: council in New Zealand and parking enforcement has broken an

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Speaker 2: unspoken fear, unspoken rules of fear competition, the cheeky back

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Speaker 2: and forth, the cat and mouse between parker and parking enforcement.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we never signed up for fuel full

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Speaker 2: nuclear attack on us. We're just driving at pace around

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Speaker 2: pinging everyone. That's not what we signed up for. There

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Speaker 2: used to be an area if out there, if it

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Speaker 2: was raining, you'd know that the parking warden couldn't be

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Speaker 2: day and that was just a little bit of joy

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Speaker 2: in the life of the citizens of the city. And

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Speaker 2: if they're going to go full nuclear on us, maybe

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Speaker 2: we should question their right to charge us to park

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Speaker 2: on our own streets at all.

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Speaker 4: You're pushing back out on this, Yeah, this is where

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Speaker 4: the campaign starts for Matt haat oh one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. I do get your point on the

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Speaker 4: cat and mouse situation, and we've all done it. And

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Speaker 4: you talk about the scenario where it's pouring down with

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Speaker 4: going to been out. If there is a ward and

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Speaker 4: that's hardy enough to be out there, then you say,

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Speaker 4: fair cop, well done. You put yourself in that environment.

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Speaker 4: It's you versus me. You got me in that scenario. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: fair cop, I'm almost happy to pay that fine. But

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Speaker 4: you see that that punishing car flying around it loves

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Speaker 4: around here, actually drift netting, drift netting everybody.

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Speaker 2: And before people say, oh look, these these tickets are

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Speaker 2: you know they're they're you know, these parking enforcement and

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Speaker 2: staff is you know, it's just about moving cars through rubbish.

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Speaker 2: It is not, because you're pinging people on Sundays and

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Speaker 2: you're not pinging people where the congestion is. But my

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Speaker 2: thing is, sure, maybe you can argue that you could

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Speaker 2: find someone for staying over three hours, sure, but that

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Speaker 2: first three hours, the first minute shouldn't be charged because

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Speaker 2: these are our roads that we've paid for. So if

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Speaker 2: there's a congestion problem, then give people two hours free

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Speaker 2: parking in the areas you want people to go, and

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Speaker 2: then then maybe find them after that. But the idea

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Speaker 2: it's overreach. And we were willing to let it go

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Speaker 2: there was a bit of a game going on. But

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Speaker 2: if they're just going to go full nuclear and blast

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Speaker 2: around at pace with their stupid cars, just pinging absolutely

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Speaker 2: everyone treating the citizens of New Zealand as the enemies

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Speaker 2: of the state, then no, the gloves are off. This

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Speaker 2: Texas is if at have handed out five hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: million going to the Auckland Council to improve roads, et

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Speaker 2: CETERA big and crime stream for the city. No, it's

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Speaker 2: a big income stream out of the citizens of a

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Speaker 2: city towards the council to spend in all kinds of

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Speaker 2: crazy ways. To another attack this idea that you can

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Speaker 2: just keep taking money off people, you know, like we're

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Speaker 2: an unstoppable resource.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty worked up about this

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Speaker 4: unextinguishable resource.

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Speaker 2: This whole idea that you treat citizens as enemies to

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Speaker 2: be mined and to be hunted.

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Speaker 4: I don't like it two is that text number come

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Speaker 4: on through. This is going to be a great conversation

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Speaker 4: and just he heads up, we are going to have

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Speaker 4: or so and get their thoughts about this drift knitting

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Speaker 4: parking situation. Right now though it is quarter past one.

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Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 4: That'd be very good afternoon to you. So we're talking

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Speaker 4: about the massive increase in the number of fines AT

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Speaker 4: has been handing out with this new technology they've got

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Speaker 4: fitted out on cars. Is that fair play or is

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Speaker 4: it too much?

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Speaker 2: What do you say?

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Speaker 4: Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten EIGHTC number.

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Speaker 4: And if they can't see your license plate number, it's

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Speaker 4: we're going to go to Martin Glenn, he's a policy

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Speaker 4: the meantime, Michael could tave you on the program, how

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Speaker 7: Oh, no, thank you, I love your show, very cheerful.

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Speaker 7: So actually happened is I got five tickets ae hundred

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Speaker 7: So back then what used to happen, I was tickets

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Speaker 7: Transport is hypocrite. They say they they just over expansion

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Speaker 7: but they don't care about taxi stand. They took away

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Speaker 2: Yeah and so so you say, so they're taking money,

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Speaker 2: they're finding people like you, Michael, and you say five

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Speaker 7: So it used to be so the Federal Street fine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucks. I mean it's crazy. Federal Street is

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Speaker 2: an ebsolute rolling disaster. They've made it, made it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, even buy the coffee I got. I love

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Speaker 7: got like automation AI. So it just the takes your

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they find so heavily and obviously there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because they want to make the city

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Speaker 7: They also took away the taxis stand on the Danny Doulan,

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Speaker 7: so it's all like bicycle and garden boxes. You can't

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Speaker 2: And if they're going to park us, you know, and

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Speaker 7: I got other friends who are like in construction, who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you on you and Michael. We feel your

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Speaker 4: And that's half the problem, right, That's why these businesses

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Speaker 2: Joelsey's next up drones flying up and down streets with

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they had their way, these people at

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Speaker 2: Michael said, plant boxes. Yeah, I've got no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: What do you say though, Oh eight, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And coming

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Speaker 4: He is the policy a policy director for the AA.

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Speaker 4: We're going to have a chat to him about his thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Next that is twenty two past one.

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Speaker 1: The Headlines and the Hard Questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: By the time you get to wait check it. It will

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Speaker 10: I spoke to Premier Lee of China this evening about

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Speaker 10: for the world's two largest economies, you know, we actually

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Speaker 10: the disruption that we've been experienced. Collect of interest that

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Speaker 10: that's a positive conversation. We'd get to a much more

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Speaker 4: Twenty five past one. So, as we've been discussing, the

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Speaker 4: number of parking fines AT has handed out with its

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Speaker 4: three to twenty twenty four last years, or more than

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Speaker 4: half a million infringements issued. I know half a mil.

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Speaker 4: The AA hopes parking enforcement cars are being used for

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Speaker 4: about this, we're joined by AA policy director Martin Glenn Martin,

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Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So, Martin, how many is too many parking enforcement cars?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a good question. Look, that's certainly one we

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Speaker 8: can't answer. At has made a decision that they're a

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Speaker 8: lot parking enforcement cards are a lot more efficient, and

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Speaker 8: I guess you know, really some of the safety concernsu

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Speaker 8: there a problem with people finding parking? That's what you know,

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Speaker 8: the parking strategies meant to be behind. And if that's

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Speaker 8: the case, then obviously parking does need to be enforced.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, this number is a huge increase in one year.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it is fair that they have these

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Speaker 4: vehicles driving in loops all day trying to find these

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Speaker 4: people park for a couple of minutes over over what

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Speaker 4: they pay. Do you think that is fair cop or

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Speaker 4: just a little bit overboard.

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Speaker 8: I think they're becoming increasingly common throughout the world, and

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Speaker 8: there are an other cities cities to so it's it's

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Speaker 8: probably just you know, we're getting getting speed tickets and

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Speaker 8: under things acually this way to it's it's it's really

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Speaker 8: a question of what problem they're trying to solve and

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Speaker 8: the legitimate parking shortages people are coming into areas and

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Speaker 8: It kind of makes sense a lot to use these

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Speaker 8: you know, it just does with everybody's suspicion that it's

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just about revenue generation, though, isn't it isn't

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Speaker 2: that Isn't that clearly the case? Because you know they're

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Speaker 2: they're they're pinging people in areas where there isn't can

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Speaker 2: congestion and pinging people at times when there isn't congestion.

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Speaker 2: So how do they justify that that has to be

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen any of the specific data. I mean,

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Speaker 8: this is something we've asked at time and time about

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Speaker 8: over the years, even before these cars.

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Speaker 2: Are around them.

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Speaker 8: They have a short asset's about addressing the problem by

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Speaker 8: that by the same token. In the last year or two,

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Speaker 8: So I think it's a yeah, I do think it's

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Speaker 8: a reasonable supposition that not every parking car out there

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Speaker 4: Surely there's something in the double amount of fines, I mean,

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Speaker 4: who are around parking enforcement. Does it not take the

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Speaker 4: a particular parking spot. You get what I mean that

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Speaker 4: if there's a human warden and there's an emergency that's

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Speaker 4: happened or whatever the reason is, there's that human element

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Speaker 4: to say, hey, fair cop, you can't park here, do

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Speaker 4: just smashing them all with these fines.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a very legitimate question. It's something that

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Speaker 8: you'd need to put to at itself. I know, I

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Speaker 8: understand the the parking charges are initially checked in an office.

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Speaker 8: That's differently. Obviously they're being on the street and being

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Speaker 8: able to listen to somebody's explanation. But yes, without that,

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Speaker 8: you can't tell us, you know, does someone have a

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Speaker 8: because I note that was the thing the at spokes highlighted.

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Speaker 8: It seem to be the most common thing. People haven't

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Speaker 8: it's not worth paying and packing charge.

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Speaker 2: And then some punishes zooms passed and pings them with

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Speaker 2: no nuance at all. So if this, you know, it

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Speaker 2: back and forth and there's no gray area in terms

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Speaker 2: are doing in their day because we're all members of

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Speaker 2: this of any particular city we live in, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we're all trying to get around and do our business

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Speaker 2: it time to ask questions around their right to charge

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Speaker 2: us at all? We've already paid for the roads through

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Speaker 2: rates and taxes, and you know, isn't it our right

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Speaker 2: I mean, the council doesn't own it, the citizens own it.

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Speaker 2: So I could maybe understand if they find you if

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Speaker 8: I mean, I agree with you, and I think there

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Speaker 8: And that's where the human factor comes in it. I

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Speaker 8: don't know what the AT back office does when these

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Speaker 8: cameras presumably download all the infringements you've taken, and I

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Speaker 8: understand the humans still got to look at them one

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Speaker 8: that's you know, that's too remote to kind of understand

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Speaker 8: everybody's circumstances. So yeah, there is people do have an

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Speaker 8: that's something else A members reasonably regularly contact us about.

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Speaker 2: Now the AT is always talking about, and this is

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Speaker 2: true across the whole country. They're talking about, you know,

437
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Speaker 2: congestion problems. And this might be a bit of a

438
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Speaker 2: leading question, but who's fault is the shortage of parking

439
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Speaker 2: in the CBD of say Auckland.

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Speaker 8: Well, I was able to listen to some of your

441
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Speaker 8: story a few minutes ago. An Auckland Council that to

442
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Speaker 8: their ride, has been going through a kind of city

443
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Speaker 8: center access plan for the best part of a decade now,

444
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Speaker 8: of which the city rail link is one of the

445
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Speaker 8: centerpieces and it's aimed at making it more easier for

446
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Speaker 8: other modes to get around. And that's that's all the

447
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Speaker 8: said at next sense of the car, So that's a

448
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Speaker 8: legitimate question to put to them. There are there buildings

449
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Speaker 8: like the Downtown Car Park which holds two thousand people

450
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Speaker 8: that have been sold to to to development that's planning

451
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Speaker 8: on putting high rises up. Auckland Council continuously sees the

452
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Speaker 8: off street parking there is a setplus available that's never full.

453
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Speaker 8: It doesn't need to preside the down to parking space

454
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Speaker 8: that it wants to. But you're right, it's still the

455
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Speaker 8: main way most of us access the city center as

456
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Speaker 8: through the cars, so you're getting that balance rights tricky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much, great discussion, Martin. Thank you

458
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Speaker 4: very much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Have a

459
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Speaker 4: good rest of the afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Cheers you guys.

461
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Speaker 11: Tea.

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Speaker 4: That is Martin Glenn, policy director for the AA.

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Speaker 2: So they make it impossible for us to park anywhere

464
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Speaker 2: reasonably and go about our business to make their plans

465
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Speaker 2: that they've had successful, to force them to make a

466
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Speaker 2: success of their crazy plans that they've put in place,

467
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Speaker 2: and then they deploy an army of robots against us

468
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Speaker 2: to punish us on the back end. So they're attacking

469
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Speaker 2: the citizens of the city from two ends for their

470
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Speaker 2: own strange plans and schemes that we're not really a

471
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Speaker 2: party to.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful analogy, and can I just say it's

473
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Speaker 4: at is obviously the one handing out half a million

474
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Speaker 4: infringements over the past year. But talking about the free

475
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Speaker 4: hour of parking, the CBD and christ Church for example,

476
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Speaker 4: nobody was going in. One councilor suggested, hey, why not

477
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Speaker 4: just offer one hour of free parking. Council said nap, No,

478
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Speaker 4: don't want to do that. So they got shut down

479
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Speaker 4: and that was effectively anti business, That's what it was,

480
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Speaker 4: because the one councilor is not a counselor anymore. Jamie

481
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Speaker 4: Goff said that the businesses are struggling here, Why is

482
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Speaker 4: it so controversial just to offer that one hour of

483
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Speaker 4: free parking get people back in? Because I'm buggering off

484
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Speaker 4: to the malls and everyone said, no, the.

485
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Speaker 2: Malls can do it exactly. The malls can give you

486
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Speaker 2: three hours of free parking one hundred percent. Yeah, okay,

487
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Speaker 2: but we can't park on our own roads that we

488
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Speaker 2: paid for with our rates and taxes for free. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 2: to go about and further the economy by going into

490
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Speaker 2: shops and going about our business. But the malls can

491
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Speaker 2: give it to us for free.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

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Speaker 4: number of cool headlines with Raylan coming up?

494
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Speaker 12: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's

495
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble labors. Sweetening an election

496
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Speaker 12: policy for a capital gains tax with a promise the

497
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Speaker 12: money will go into health, including funding three free GP

498
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Speaker 12: visits a year. It would only apply to investment and

499
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Speaker 12: commercial properties. Hundreds of joined a hikoy along Auckland's waterfront

500
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Speaker 12: supporting the rights of Madi and workers. It's part of

501
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Speaker 12: country wide protests. They claim the government's undermining the Treaty

502
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Speaker 12: of White Toongui, blocking pay equity and stripping workers' rights.

503
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Speaker 12: Commemorations of fifty decades of New Zealand and Southeast Asian

504
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Speaker 12: diplomacy at the Asian summit in Kuala Lumpur, where the

505
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister is joining talks. The eleven countries will also

506
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Speaker 12: finalize a comprehensive strategic partnership. Restoring power in the Lower

507
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Speaker 12: South Island could take weeks. With two hundred properties in

508
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Speaker 12: Luther District brought back online yesterday, but nearly two and

509
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Speaker 12: a half thousand are still cut off. The Lawrence Reservoir

510
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Speaker 12: is empty and local should conserve water, while the Dame

511
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Speaker 12: Noelindua affair exposes deep cracks and netball New Zealand. You

512
00:25:03,653 --> 00:25:06,373
Speaker 12: can see the full Columny ands in Herald Premium. Back

513
00:25:06,413 --> 00:25:07,853
Speaker 12: now to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylan. So we're talking about Auckland

515
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Speaker 4: Transport handing out double the number of infringements and they

516
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Speaker 4: did the previous year almost no over half a million infringements.

517
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Speaker 4: Most of those were for parking enforcement. And they're able

518
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Speaker 4: to do this because they've got this license plate recognition

519
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Speaker 4: technology that they've rolled out over the previous year, which

520
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Speaker 4: is effectively like carpet bombing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, they're going hard on us. They've decided

522
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Speaker 2: to full out no nuance war against the citizens of

523
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Speaker 2: the city Sylvia says, I agree with Matt. Where is

524
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Speaker 2: the good will? Where is the room for making mistakes? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Spot On nicely said that nuance and that context.

526
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Speaker 2: Pete, welcome to the show.

527
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Speaker 13: Yeah you go, just like that gentleman Sere from the

528
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Speaker 13: AA there. But I can't see what they're how the

529
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Speaker 13: councils or especially like Auckland. I think it's about time

530
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Speaker 13: the government stepped in because what's happening now is they're

531
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Speaker 13: using this modern technology solely to their advantage, these councils.

532
00:26:07,813 --> 00:26:10,253
Speaker 13: And they know they've got that technology now. They never

533
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Speaker 13: had that technology before. So the government is trying to

534
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Speaker 13: get people in the cities. I've got a sister up

535
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Speaker 13: on Auckland and she won't go in town now, which

536
00:26:20,453 --> 00:26:22,893
Speaker 13: is too scared where all human beings are. We not

537
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Speaker 13: people come into cities. I'm from New Plymouth, I come,

538
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Speaker 13: I go up Ortland. I don't won't go up there

539
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Speaker 13: anymore now. So I put it going to end up

540
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Speaker 13: a five hundred, five hundred dollar fines for parking or

541
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Speaker 13: maybe a loading zone for two minutes to get my bearings.

542
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Speaker 13: There should be a grace period where these park I

543
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Speaker 13: call them, these parking people, they just a bunch of

544
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Speaker 13: their bunch. I call them a bunch of crims. That's

545
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Speaker 13: what they are. Greedy, they have no dignity at all.

546
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Speaker 13: They're just fleecing people. And I pritty myself, it's about

547
00:26:52,213 --> 00:26:55,333
Speaker 13: time the government stepped in. There is a leeway, yeah,

548
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Speaker 13: and a your phone goes, you pull over, you want

549
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Speaker 13: to get your bearings at your GPS or whatever. They

550
00:27:01,093 --> 00:27:03,573
Speaker 13: should not be able to park you basically park now

551
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Speaker 13: for thirty seconds whatever they pin you that. It's not

552
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Speaker 13: fear So I think it's about time the government did

553
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Speaker 13: something and also the Auckland Council give people a bit

554
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Speaker 13: of a credibility and treat them with dignity.

555
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Speaker 2: Look good on your pete. Yeah, I mean that's right.

556
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Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. It's the it's the the blanket,

557
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Speaker 2: the one hundred percent efficiency. The way the no nuance

558
00:27:25,813 --> 00:27:29,573
Speaker 2: war against us parking is tricky as some cafes, laundromats

559
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Speaker 2: have designated parking and some people want to park there

560
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Speaker 2: all day and then have all sorts of excuses. Unfortunately,

561
00:27:35,093 --> 00:27:37,693
Speaker 2: so there can't be exemptions rules. Otherwise they park in

562
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Speaker 2: supermarkets et cetera, and it will annoy us. Well, parking

563
00:27:40,813 --> 00:27:44,773
Speaker 2: the supermarkets. That's a private matter, but yeah, I mean

564
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Speaker 2: I get that. So if you're in front of a

565
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Speaker 2: dairy and you need people to move on, then maybe

566
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Speaker 2: you have you know, you can have those fifteen minute zones,

567
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Speaker 2: but they're free, so you can park for fifteen minutes

568
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Speaker 2: for free as long as you move on ping the

569
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Speaker 2: people for not moving on. What I'm complaining about is

570
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Speaker 2: that they start charging you from second one and then

571
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Speaker 2: they unreleased on the zero nuance for technology punishment on you.

572
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Speaker 2: You know, if you if you are there for even

573
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Speaker 2: you know, one minute too long?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you say?

575
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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

577
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Speaker 4: to cour if you've recently been fined. And there's a

578
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Speaker 4: lot of people that have been picked up by this

579
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Speaker 4: new technology, over half a million. Love to hear from you.

580
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Speaker 4: What happened? How long were you parked up? And did

581
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Speaker 4: you manage to fight the power? Nine two nine two

582
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Speaker 4: is the text number as well. Back in a mow,

583
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Speaker 4: it is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 2: Tyler, concentrate on the show, stop watching the baseball on

585
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Speaker 2: the team mate.

586
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Speaker 4: I'm going to turn that tally off in a minute.

587
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Speaker 2: You got it. My last focus in the middle of

588
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Speaker 2: my center.

589
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.

590
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be We're a good afternoons here. We're talking about

592
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Speaker 4: the number of parking infringement AT have issued. It doubled

593
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Speaker 4: in the previous year, over half a million. Most of

594
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Speaker 4: that is for parking. And the reason they can do

595
00:29:04,373 --> 00:29:06,373
Speaker 4: that is because they've got this new tech. They don't

596
00:29:06,413 --> 00:29:08,493
Speaker 4: need to even need wardens on the ground anymore to

597
00:29:08,613 --> 00:29:11,293
Speaker 4: drive around in those cars and sting you left, right

598
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Speaker 4: and center. Is that fair cop or does it go

599
00:29:13,573 --> 00:29:13,893
Speaker 4: too far?

600
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Speaker 2: Is it zero empathy, zero gray area tech deployed against

601
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Speaker 2: the cities of the city together revenue for the dubious

602
00:29:21,813 --> 00:29:26,253
Speaker 2: plans is this text says it's called social engineering, guys,

603
00:29:26,293 --> 00:29:29,933
Speaker 2: and down here in Wellington, the WCC are in the

604
00:29:29,933 --> 00:29:32,653
Speaker 2: business of telling us how to live our lives. This

605
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Speaker 2: Texas says it's time to call Batman.

606
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Speaker 4: It's ten minutes of Gotham City. This texture is actually

607
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:41,013
Speaker 4: pushing back. Get over at your wines. The AT app

608
00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:43,733
Speaker 4: is very easy to use. Parking is not expensive at

609
00:29:43,773 --> 00:29:45,453
Speaker 4: two bucks an hour. The app lets you know when

610
00:29:45,453 --> 00:29:47,453
Speaker 4: your parking time is up or so when you park,

611
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Speaker 4: you can say how long you're going to park. So

612
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Speaker 4: if you think you're going to be an hour, it's

613
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Speaker 4: best to put two hours, because when you go back,

614
00:29:53,533 --> 00:29:55,613
Speaker 4: it only charges you for the time you actually use.

615
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Speaker 4: The biggest problem I have is finding a park.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's because they've removed all the parks.

617
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Speaker 2: But secondly, you could ask the question why are they

618
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Speaker 2: charging us from a minute one at all to park

619
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Speaker 2: on our own roads? Were saying for with our rates

620
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Speaker 2: and in Texas this Texas is not a fan of

621
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Speaker 2: at But as far as I'm concerned, eight does give

622
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Speaker 2: a ten minute grace period. If someone parks on a

623
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Speaker 2: paid parking spot and didn't pay, they will only be

624
00:30:18,173 --> 00:30:21,453
Speaker 2: pinned it pinned and charged on the second time they

625
00:30:21,453 --> 00:30:23,453
Speaker 2: are seen on the same spot and have not moved.

626
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Speaker 4: Okay, undred and eighty seen eighty is that number of time?

627
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Speaker 2: That's not what some of our uber drivers are saying

628
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Speaker 2: that they're experiencing. Let's go to Ken Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Oh guys, First of all, how do we determine parking?

630
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Speaker 6: To me, if you're sat in the car, even if

631
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Speaker 6: the eroine is off. You're not parked, You're only stuck.

632
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Speaker 2: Yep.

633
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Speaker 6: Well, I worked as a volunteer driver taking people for

634
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Speaker 6: medical appointments, and sometimes I go to the middlemore where

635
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Speaker 6: you're supposed to part. Well, I usually go and park

636
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Speaker 6: down the road at the service station for most of

637
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Speaker 6: the time. Then I might come back up when I

638
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:03,533
Speaker 6: think the patient's going to be ready, and then sometimes

639
00:31:03,573 --> 00:31:05,813
Speaker 6: I've still been parped in the road for an hour.

640
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Speaker 6: But if I'm sat in the car and one of

641
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Speaker 6: those crumbs down, he's not to know whether he's dole

642
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Speaker 6: un necessarily see whether I'm in the car or not.

643
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Speaker 6: So that if you picking me because I haven't paye

644
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Speaker 6: and yet I'm not really parking money stuff.

645
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Speaker 4: Spot on, I'll meet you whether you ken. If you're

646
00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:22,853
Speaker 4: in your vehicle, then that is not parking up. And

647
00:31:22,893 --> 00:31:24,853
Speaker 4: we've all played that game before that. I five needed

648
00:31:24,853 --> 00:31:27,493
Speaker 4: to shoot in somewhere. I say to my partner, Hey, mate,

649
00:31:27,493 --> 00:31:29,253
Speaker 4: can you jump in the driver's seat just in case

650
00:31:29,293 --> 00:31:30,573
Speaker 4: the warden tells you to move?

651
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Speaker 2: That's fair cop, yeah, but the presence of a driver

652
00:31:35,013 --> 00:31:38,773
Speaker 2: does not grant immunity. In Auckland, transports regulation and new

653
00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:41,093
Speaker 2: Zealand's Land Transport that state that being in a vehicle

654
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,933
Speaker 2: does not exempt it from parking restrictions. The law penalizes

655
00:31:43,973 --> 00:31:48,173
Speaker 2: the act of stopping, standing or parking in a prohibited area,

656
00:31:48,213 --> 00:31:51,453
Speaker 2: regardless of whether the cars occupied right. But I guess

657
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:53,573
Speaker 2: back in the old day, you know, you leave one

658
00:31:53,693 --> 00:31:57,253
Speaker 2: person in the car and if a parking warden came along,

659
00:31:57,373 --> 00:31:59,573
Speaker 2: you just buzz out of there. Yeah, well you.

660
00:31:59,533 --> 00:32:01,893
Speaker 4: Just go sor right, just moving cat and mouse.

661
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:03,293
Speaker 14: It was.

662
00:32:03,573 --> 00:32:07,333
Speaker 6: I had another instance that went to gardens play. When

663
00:32:07,373 --> 00:32:09,933
Speaker 6: I take people up to off an hospital, I go

664
00:32:10,013 --> 00:32:12,333
Speaker 6: and park in the winter garden cafe and wait for

665
00:32:12,373 --> 00:32:16,173
Speaker 6: them while their own chemo or radiation and stuff. And

666
00:32:16,253 --> 00:32:20,013
Speaker 6: one day I was sat in the cafe reading the newspaper.

667
00:32:20,493 --> 00:32:22,733
Speaker 6: I saw this little pink truck of ride. I just

668
00:32:22,773 --> 00:32:25,013
Speaker 6: saw the cab of it like I didn't think nothing

669
00:32:25,053 --> 00:32:27,933
Speaker 6: of it. I carried on reading the paper. Two minutes later,

670
00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:30,813
Speaker 6: I actor, there's the front of my car rising up,

671
00:32:32,173 --> 00:32:34,773
Speaker 6: and anyway, I'll shut it out quick as I could

672
00:32:35,173 --> 00:32:39,133
Speaker 6: walk with the sticks. And what's going on? Oh, so

673
00:32:39,253 --> 00:32:42,173
Speaker 6: you're parked on the broken yellow line? I said, yeah, Well,

674
00:32:42,213 --> 00:32:43,933
Speaker 6: I said, I'm at the cafe here I said, I'm

675
00:32:43,973 --> 00:32:46,373
Speaker 6: waiting for a patient at the hospital. If I hadn't

676
00:32:46,413 --> 00:32:48,613
Speaker 6: had to look up at the right time, that my

677
00:32:48,693 --> 00:32:50,573
Speaker 6: car would have been gone, the patient would have rank.

678
00:32:50,813 --> 00:32:52,133
Speaker 6: And I've had no crowd to take your.

679
00:32:52,093 --> 00:32:53,933
Speaker 4: Own so that they didn't even knock on your WI

680
00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:55,973
Speaker 4: window before they hooked the tow track up.

681
00:32:56,253 --> 00:33:02,373
Speaker 6: Just a shame on them. There's not even a disabled

682
00:33:02,453 --> 00:33:04,013
Speaker 6: park outside the cafe.

683
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:07,013
Speaker 2: Even And but when you went up to them, because

684
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:10,933
Speaker 2: sometimes they chat your little cheeky backhand, okay, well we'll

685
00:33:10,973 --> 00:33:12,653
Speaker 2: take it off if you, you know, give us give

686
00:33:12,653 --> 00:33:15,133
Speaker 2: me a hundred cash now. But did they just lower

687
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:19,333
Speaker 2: it down with no do they it?

688
00:33:18,253 --> 00:33:21,973
Speaker 6: I turned my trous I got and I'm waiting for

689
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:22,933
Speaker 6: the book and hospital.

690
00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:23,493
Speaker 2: We'll good on you.

691
00:33:23,693 --> 00:33:25,533
Speaker 6: They put it down, and then I got a I

692
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:29,173
Speaker 6: got a build from Walking Transport for what it was

693
00:33:29,973 --> 00:33:34,213
Speaker 6: thirteen dollars was for them calling the tot raft that

694
00:33:34,373 --> 00:33:36,693
Speaker 6: I think it was fifty six dollars. They drive me

695
00:33:36,733 --> 00:33:37,573
Speaker 6: on top of that as well.

696
00:33:38,413 --> 00:33:40,213
Speaker 2: We'll good on you, Ken for the for the good

697
00:33:40,213 --> 00:33:41,653
Speaker 2: work you do in the community.

698
00:33:41,293 --> 00:33:43,373
Speaker 4: Ain't yep yep? Keep fighting the power as well. Oh,

699
00:33:43,373 --> 00:33:45,973
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number.

700
00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:49,333
Speaker 2: To call oh Man. He said that she parked in

701
00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:54,413
Speaker 2: Ponsonby for twelve minutes and was fine. Seventy dollars Old Mandy.

702
00:33:54,253 --> 00:33:55,933
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. Thank you, yeah, thanks.

703
00:33:56,293 --> 00:33:57,733
Speaker 2: That is a lot though for twelve and all the

704
00:33:57,773 --> 00:34:00,053
Speaker 2: people texting in saying that that that they don't do

705
00:34:00,173 --> 00:34:03,573
Speaker 2: these things. She got packed seventy bucks. She was there

706
00:34:03,613 --> 00:34:04,293
Speaker 2: for twelve minutes.

707
00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:07,413
Speaker 4: There's your proof, right it is eleven minutes to two.

708
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:10,453
Speaker 4: But taking more of your calls if you've recently been fined,

709
00:34:10,733 --> 00:34:12,573
Speaker 4: love to hear your story back in the mote.

710
00:34:13,773 --> 00:34:16,933
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

711
00:34:17,053 --> 00:34:19,453
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor

712
00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:23,613
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons news TALKSV news Talks.

713
00:34:23,653 --> 00:34:25,693
Speaker 4: Here'd be full lines. At the moment we're talking about

714
00:34:25,733 --> 00:34:29,133
Speaker 4: at and their parking infringement finds issued out by new

715
00:34:29,173 --> 00:34:32,093
Speaker 4: technology that means they don't really have to have wardens anymore.

716
00:34:32,093 --> 00:34:34,853
Speaker 4: They're just driver in the around in the cars, carpet

717
00:34:34,853 --> 00:34:37,453
Speaker 4: bombing and picking up anybody who may be thirty seconds

718
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:38,213
Speaker 4: over the limits.

719
00:34:39,013 --> 00:34:41,213
Speaker 2: You know what I'm with you, Matt. I'm happy for

720
00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:43,853
Speaker 2: you to lead the movement. You're right, it's us versus them.

721
00:34:43,853 --> 00:34:46,293
Speaker 2: In the last six months, I've disposed of three speed

722
00:34:46,333 --> 00:34:49,933
Speaker 2: cameras and disabled four more. I'm currently trolling the CVD

723
00:34:50,053 --> 00:34:52,413
Speaker 2: in search of one of these cars, where I will

724
00:34:52,453 --> 00:34:55,013
Speaker 2: then pop up all its tires. Good on your mat,

725
00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,813
Speaker 2: you're the man, brother. I'd like to distance myself from Dave.

726
00:34:57,933 --> 00:35:00,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yep, that Dave is doing that on his

727
00:35:00,493 --> 00:35:01,533
Speaker 4: own own mat.

728
00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:04,413
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just blowing hot air on the radio

729
00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:07,773
Speaker 2: saying that I think it's a little bit unfair how

730
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:12,732
Speaker 2: things are rolling, and I think that potentially we need

731
00:35:12,773 --> 00:35:15,053
Speaker 2: to question the right of the council to charge us

732
00:35:15,093 --> 00:35:18,053
Speaker 2: to park on our own roads. But I don't want

733
00:35:18,093 --> 00:35:20,533
Speaker 2: to start a sea of vigilantes heading out into anti

734
00:35:20,573 --> 00:35:21,573
Speaker 2: parking vigilantes.

735
00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:23,172
Speaker 4: Dave, you're on your own man.

736
00:35:23,253 --> 00:35:24,213
Speaker 2: What was the guy in Italy?

737
00:35:24,813 --> 00:35:26,573
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, who was taken out all the speed

738
00:35:26,613 --> 00:35:30,293
Speaker 4: cameras and the Yeah, gosh, what did they call him?

739
00:35:30,373 --> 00:35:31,692
Speaker 4: I think they got him in the end, didn't they.

740
00:35:31,693 --> 00:35:33,373
Speaker 4: But there was a big man hunt trying to track

741
00:35:33,453 --> 00:35:33,772
Speaker 4: him down.

742
00:35:33,853 --> 00:35:36,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was called the flexi man, the flexi man,

743
00:35:36,853 --> 00:35:39,413
Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, he was a vigilante out there destroying

744
00:35:40,493 --> 00:35:43,373
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's not the movement. I'm a peaceful movement,

745
00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:44,333
Speaker 2: peaceful resistance.

746
00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:46,293
Speaker 4: Good to clarify that, Let's.

747
00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:49,373
Speaker 2: Defeat them with our arguments, not with our circular saws.

748
00:35:49,413 --> 00:35:54,613
Speaker 4: So be popping tires. Dave eighty is the number to call.

749
00:35:54,693 --> 00:35:57,293
Speaker 4: We've got full boards at the moment. But let's go

750
00:35:57,413 --> 00:36:00,733
Speaker 4: to Andrew on the other side. There, Andrew, how are you?

751
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,533
Speaker 4: I'm good to show you very good. What do you

752
00:36:04,613 --> 00:36:05,413
Speaker 4: reckon on this one?

753
00:36:08,413 --> 00:36:11,293
Speaker 15: It's a little bit mental, isn't it. I sort of

754
00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:16,253
Speaker 15: noticed how in the city the at got lots of

755
00:36:16,293 --> 00:36:20,933
Speaker 15: cameras over their bus lanes and they're quite they're quite

756
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:26,293
Speaker 15: Nazis with how they police people driving in their bus lanes.

757
00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:29,212
Speaker 15: You know, you'll you'll instantly, you know, get a tack

758
00:36:29,293 --> 00:36:32,693
Speaker 15: one hundred and fifty dollars or something like that for

759
00:36:32,853 --> 00:36:37,573
Speaker 15: driving in their bus lanes. And to hear that they're

760
00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:40,772
Speaker 15: doing this, I guess probably isn't too surprising. But what

761
00:36:41,093 --> 00:36:43,533
Speaker 15: gets what gets me is that, like there's lots of

762
00:36:43,573 --> 00:36:46,293
Speaker 15: other crazy things that are happening around the city, like

763
00:36:47,293 --> 00:36:53,133
Speaker 15: especially in the busy times, people will queue across intersections

764
00:36:53,173 --> 00:36:58,373
Speaker 15: and block traffic. And how come there's no teeth with

765
00:36:58,733 --> 00:37:01,013
Speaker 15: the imagery of that, and the number of plates they

766
00:37:01,013 --> 00:37:05,333
Speaker 15: would pick up. How come they that you know or

767
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:05,933
Speaker 15: can transport?

768
00:37:06,573 --> 00:37:09,613
Speaker 2: You mean when people enter into section when their exitus

769
00:37:09,653 --> 00:37:10,133
Speaker 2: and is.

770
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:14,933
Speaker 3: Blocked, yeah, opposing traffic.

771
00:37:15,093 --> 00:37:19,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is something that people really need

772
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:22,453
Speaker 2: to be educated on. If you if you don't go

773
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:24,973
Speaker 2: into the intersection until you can clearly see that you

774
00:37:25,013 --> 00:37:27,653
Speaker 2: can leave, you're not getting there any quicker. Like, if

775
00:37:27,693 --> 00:37:29,493
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity to get there, you'll be able to

776
00:37:29,493 --> 00:37:31,893
Speaker 2: get there. But the amount of people that are hanging

777
00:37:31,893 --> 00:37:35,293
Speaker 2: out two or three cars and blocking when the lights change,

778
00:37:35,773 --> 00:37:38,853
Speaker 2: that you know, tays of those people. Let's leave over

779
00:37:38,853 --> 00:37:41,013
Speaker 2: and leave the people that are parking ten minutes too

780
00:37:41,093 --> 00:37:45,252
Speaker 2: long alone on the side of the road. Yeah, I mean.

781
00:37:45,533 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 15: People, it's like that. But but if you just if

782
00:37:50,613 --> 00:37:52,893
Speaker 15: you drive in the bus way, oh, you're going to

783
00:37:52,893 --> 00:37:53,253
Speaker 15: get it.

784
00:37:53,853 --> 00:37:56,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to shave those people in a minute.

785
00:37:56,453 --> 00:37:58,173
Speaker 4: And I can say that because I've been one of

786
00:37:58,213 --> 00:38:02,253
Speaker 4: those those people time, because I've been and the embarrassment

787
00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:04,853
Speaker 4: levels and people are honking at me giving me the figures,

788
00:38:04,853 --> 00:38:05,773
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I deserve this.

789
00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:07,652
Speaker 2: I mean, you do get parnished with you out there.

790
00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:09,533
Speaker 2: If you've made them a you've sort of been absent

791
00:38:09,573 --> 00:38:11,733
Speaker 2: minded and you've thought that maybe the exit was going

792
00:38:11,773 --> 00:38:13,213
Speaker 2: to clear by the time you got there, and then

793
00:38:13,253 --> 00:38:16,933
Speaker 2: you're sitting there blocking other people. It's the longest couple

794
00:38:16,973 --> 00:38:19,373
Speaker 2: of minutes of your life. You're just sitting there, You're

795
00:38:19,373 --> 00:38:22,733
Speaker 2: waving sorry to so many people. The angriest face is

796
00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:24,413
Speaker 2: looking straight at you, and you're like, what if I

797
00:38:24,973 --> 00:38:28,093
Speaker 2: done that? It's time so slow there. It certainly does.

798
00:38:28,253 --> 00:38:30,573
Speaker 2: You need to get the special theory of relativity into

799
00:38:30,573 --> 00:38:33,212
Speaker 2: those cars to just work out how much slow time

800
00:38:33,253 --> 00:38:35,533
Speaker 2: has slowed when you're sitting in the middle of that intersection.

801
00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:37,373
Speaker 4: It is a fair punishment for doing that sort of

802
00:38:37,373 --> 00:38:38,213
Speaker 4: stuff as well.

803
00:38:38,173 --> 00:38:40,533
Speaker 2: But I think you deserve I mean, I might just

804
00:38:40,573 --> 00:38:43,253
Speaker 2: get a taser in my car and then just taser

805
00:38:43,293 --> 00:38:46,013
Speaker 2: myself so people sitting there and go, look, I know

806
00:38:46,093 --> 00:38:49,053
Speaker 2: I've I've made a mistake here. He's taken it on himself,

807
00:38:49,213 --> 00:38:52,253
Speaker 2: torturing myself here. It's a terrible thing to do.

808
00:38:52,613 --> 00:38:52,733
Speaker 15: Right.

809
00:38:52,773 --> 00:38:55,252
Speaker 4: We're going to carry this on after two o'clock because

810
00:38:55,293 --> 00:38:57,533
Speaker 4: so many people want to have a chat about it. Oh,

811
00:38:57,533 --> 00:39:00,253
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to.

812
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,053
Speaker 2: Call on with you, Matt storm the Capitol.

813
00:39:03,493 --> 00:39:04,533
Speaker 4: This is getting out of control.

814
00:39:04,573 --> 00:39:04,732
Speaker 9: Matt.

815
00:39:04,773 --> 00:39:07,893
Speaker 4: You've rut the people up too much. Down right news.

816
00:39:08,493 --> 00:39:10,373
Speaker 2: My movement's getting away from it a new.

817
00:39:10,253 --> 00:39:13,252
Speaker 4: Sport and weather is fast approaching. But get on the phones.

818
00:39:13,293 --> 00:39:14,693
Speaker 4: O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you

819
00:39:14,733 --> 00:39:18,133
Speaker 4: can't get through, keep trying. Nine two ninety two is

820
00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:20,573
Speaker 4: that text number as well. Great Dey of your company

821
00:39:20,693 --> 00:39:23,413
Speaker 4: is always hope you're having a great Tuesday afternoon. You're

822
00:39:23,453 --> 00:39:25,813
Speaker 4: listening to Matt and Tyler. Stay right here. We'll be

823
00:39:25,853 --> 00:39:26,732
Speaker 4: back shorty.

824
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:31,653
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

825
00:39:31,693 --> 00:39:33,493
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

826
00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:37,173
Speaker 4: It'd be afternoon to welcome back into the show. It

827
00:39:37,253 --> 00:39:39,333
Speaker 4: is six pass two and we're going to carry on

828
00:39:39,373 --> 00:39:41,973
Speaker 4: the discussion where we're having last hour about the number

829
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:45,773
Speaker 4: of parking fines eighty Auckland Transport has handed out with

830
00:39:45,853 --> 00:39:49,453
Speaker 4: its new license plate recognition cars. It's almost doubled from

831
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:52,053
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four last years, or

832
00:39:52,093 --> 00:39:56,172
Speaker 4: more than half a million infringements issued, with the most

833
00:39:56,173 --> 00:39:58,973
Speaker 4: common one being drivers not paying for parking in a

834
00:39:59,093 --> 00:40:01,213
Speaker 4: paid zone. So what do you say, O e one

835
00:40:01,293 --> 00:40:05,732
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty do you think this is effectively

836
00:40:05,933 --> 00:40:08,133
Speaker 4: an attack on its citizens and it's not fair play?

837
00:40:08,613 --> 00:40:11,693
Speaker 2: Stop your moaning, Matt says this text, stop your moaning,

838
00:40:11,733 --> 00:40:14,213
Speaker 2: Please stop your moaning. Look is it moaning or is

839
00:40:14,213 --> 00:40:16,292
Speaker 2: it just having a discussion on our eight one hundred

840
00:40:16,293 --> 00:40:20,133
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. What I'm complaining about, which is moaning?

841
00:40:20,173 --> 00:40:22,173
Speaker 2: I guess stop your moaning.

842
00:40:21,973 --> 00:40:25,333
Speaker 4: The fighting the power moaning. Yeah, well, standing up to

843
00:40:26,093 --> 00:40:27,933
Speaker 4: standing up to authority. Not like Dave.

844
00:40:28,173 --> 00:40:30,093
Speaker 2: We don't need to mention Dave again. I'm going to

845
00:40:30,573 --> 00:40:32,453
Speaker 2: I'm going to brand my moaning as complaining.

846
00:40:32,573 --> 00:40:32,853
Speaker 4: Okay.

847
00:40:32,973 --> 00:40:35,893
Speaker 2: What I'm complaining about is the deployment of zero empathy

848
00:40:36,053 --> 00:40:40,453
Speaker 2: Z zero gray area tech against the citizens of our cities.

849
00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:45,493
Speaker 2: Tech like this leaves no room for humanity to thrive,

850
00:40:46,413 --> 00:40:49,453
Speaker 2: no room for humanity to thrive. It it's efficiency in

851
00:40:49,493 --> 00:40:52,213
Speaker 2: the most heartless way, and it turns those of us

852
00:40:52,253 --> 00:40:54,533
Speaker 2: who have paid for the roads we park on with

853
00:40:54,573 --> 00:40:57,893
Speaker 2: our taxes and rates as it into a resource to

854
00:40:57,933 --> 00:40:59,773
Speaker 2: be farmed for revenue.

855
00:41:00,933 --> 00:41:02,093
Speaker 4: Nicely, nicely, I guve you.

856
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:04,652
Speaker 2: And then that money that they farm from us, that

857
00:41:04,693 --> 00:41:07,573
Speaker 2: they use us as a resource as a catchment area,

858
00:41:09,013 --> 00:41:11,253
Speaker 2: is then spent on hurting us around according to their

859
00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:15,333
Speaker 2: dubious plans, and everywhere we go we see their failures.

860
00:41:15,893 --> 00:41:20,093
Speaker 2: So this sort of you know, cat and mouse, you know,

861
00:41:20,853 --> 00:41:23,333
Speaker 2: cheeky little back and forth that used to happen between

862
00:41:23,373 --> 00:41:29,533
Speaker 2: parking enforcement and the citizens, the sort of unspoken competition

863
00:41:30,373 --> 00:41:32,413
Speaker 2: sort of you know, gave us a little good will

864
00:41:32,453 --> 00:41:34,533
Speaker 2: and a little leeway, you know what I mean. Sometimes

865
00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:36,652
Speaker 2: you got away with it, sometimes you didn't. You know,

866
00:41:36,733 --> 00:41:38,893
Speaker 2: It's like Max verstepping in the safety car. He's not

867
00:41:38,933 --> 00:41:40,893
Speaker 2: angry at the virtual safety car because sometimes it goes

868
00:41:40,893 --> 00:41:43,573
Speaker 2: as way, sometimes it doesn't, right, yep, great analogy. And

869
00:41:43,653 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 2: sometimes you would park on the street and you'd get

870
00:41:45,373 --> 00:41:47,933
Speaker 2: away with it. Sometimes it would rain and you'd be like, oh,

871
00:41:48,093 --> 00:41:49,613
Speaker 2: the parking wardens aren't going to go out, and that

872
00:41:49,613 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 2: I'll be fine, And there was a bit of back

873
00:41:51,493 --> 00:41:54,453
Speaker 2: and forth. There was a bit of gray area. But

874
00:41:54,573 --> 00:41:57,413
Speaker 2: now with this level of tech deployed against us, there's

875
00:41:57,413 --> 00:41:59,653
Speaker 2: no gray area. It's just going nuclear on us, and

876
00:41:59,693 --> 00:42:02,493
Speaker 2: we're supposed to expected just to shut up and be fleeced.

877
00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:07,413
Speaker 4: All right, all right, fantastic. I love that is that complaining? Well,

878
00:42:07,453 --> 00:42:10,293
Speaker 4: come on through one number to go?

879
00:42:10,693 --> 00:42:11,573
Speaker 2: Was that just winging?

880
00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:14,853
Speaker 4: Is this about humanity thriving? Come on through nine two

881
00:42:14,933 --> 00:42:18,613
Speaker 4: nine two is the text number? Devon You got to

882
00:42:18,653 --> 00:42:22,693
Speaker 4: take it recently for stopping for one second? Is that true?

883
00:42:23,853 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly true.

884
00:42:26,213 --> 00:42:29,013
Speaker 4: Right, Well, tell us what happens? So whereabouts did you stop?

885
00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:34,373
Speaker 3: I stopped on Taylor's Street. I'm a woman driver, yep.

886
00:42:34,853 --> 00:42:37,013
Speaker 3: So you know there's no place in the city where

887
00:42:37,053 --> 00:42:40,133
Speaker 3: you can stop and pick up passengers, so Taylor Street

888
00:42:40,293 --> 00:42:43,453
Speaker 3: being quite a busy place where you pick up people

889
00:42:43,493 --> 00:42:46,053
Speaker 3: from the restaurants there. I stopped in front of the

890
00:42:46,053 --> 00:42:49,573
Speaker 3: restaurant and this person got into my car and I

891
00:42:49,653 --> 00:42:52,093
Speaker 3: drove off. I get a ticket and I'm gonna go online.

892
00:42:52,093 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 3: I see two photographs one second apart, and then Frinchmand

893
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:59,213
Speaker 3: noticed states that I stopped for one second duration of

894
00:42:59,333 --> 00:43:00,293
Speaker 3: parking one second?

895
00:43:00,773 --> 00:43:03,493
Speaker 2: Wow? And did you I took.

896
00:43:04,133 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 3: I tried to contest it online, nothing nothing happening there.

897
00:43:07,613 --> 00:43:12,013
Speaker 3: So I went down to the officers in I tried

898
00:43:12,053 --> 00:43:15,653
Speaker 3: first to tried the novel process that I tried emails.

899
00:43:16,013 --> 00:43:18,573
Speaker 3: Then I went down and I can't remember the lady's name,

900
00:43:18,613 --> 00:43:23,893
Speaker 3: but her first name was Jane, And I asked, you know,

901
00:43:23,653 --> 00:43:26,893
Speaker 3: to quit this and said, no, you stopped, so you

902
00:43:26,893 --> 00:43:28,693
Speaker 3: have to play the frame. I said, where's a discussion.

903
00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:31,533
Speaker 3: She says, there's no discussions on parking tickets.

904
00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:36,973
Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, like one second, anybody listening can see that.

905
00:43:37,053 --> 00:43:39,733
Speaker 4: That is crazy town sixty dollars. You were, you were stung,

906
00:43:40,533 --> 00:43:42,253
Speaker 4: but there's no So you took it back to an

907
00:43:42,253 --> 00:43:45,253
Speaker 4: actual human. That was this crazy robot health system that

908
00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 4: stung here. Then you took it back to a human

909
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:50,213
Speaker 4: and I said, not sorry, one second is over.

910
00:43:50,573 --> 00:43:50,732
Speaker 16: Over.

911
00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:54,013
Speaker 3: I can't remember her satin name, And I asked her,

912
00:43:54,053 --> 00:43:56,652
Speaker 3: what's your qualification? She says, I'm a lawyer and I'm

913
00:43:56,693 --> 00:43:57,333
Speaker 3: in charge of this.

914
00:43:57,413 --> 00:44:01,213
Speaker 2: Place anyway, So you what you went in? So you

915
00:44:01,253 --> 00:44:02,053
Speaker 2: went down.

916
00:44:01,893 --> 00:44:06,093
Speaker 3: To down to Eightyes, officers in in.

917
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:10,013
Speaker 2: On the way back to her and there was and

918
00:44:10,053 --> 00:44:13,213
Speaker 2: there was a lawyer called Jane sitting behind the counter.

919
00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:16,933
Speaker 3: Behind the counter. She came from somewhere beyond the back there.

920
00:44:17,213 --> 00:44:17,413
Speaker 6: Right.

921
00:44:17,453 --> 00:44:19,573
Speaker 4: That's that's why the parking fines are gone up. We've

922
00:44:19,573 --> 00:44:21,453
Speaker 4: got to pay these lawyers to sit around all day

923
00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:23,493
Speaker 4: and make arguments against the citizens.

924
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:25,333
Speaker 2: So so when you said that, it was only one

925
00:44:25,373 --> 00:44:27,253
Speaker 2: second and you showed it. What were what was her?

926
00:44:28,093 --> 00:44:29,893
Speaker 2: So she just said that there's no leeway at all.

927
00:44:31,053 --> 00:44:33,773
Speaker 3: She said, no, there's not. She said that I can

928
00:44:33,853 --> 00:44:34,812
Speaker 3: get a date in courts.

929
00:44:35,693 --> 00:44:37,693
Speaker 4: Wow, sheep is over one second.

930
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:40,653
Speaker 2: That that's that's that's craziness.

931
00:44:40,733 --> 00:44:41,733
Speaker 4: Did you call herself on that?

932
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:44,973
Speaker 2: So that kind of pushes back on my tech lack

933
00:44:45,013 --> 00:44:47,933
Speaker 2: of tech empathy when people are just driving around farming us.

934
00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:50,613
Speaker 2: But that's you're talking to a person there, and that

935
00:44:50,613 --> 00:44:52,533
Speaker 2: that's a person on person, a human on human, and

936
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:56,173
Speaker 2: they're not showing any sort of you know, reason or

937
00:44:56,893 --> 00:45:03,573
Speaker 2: you know, a gray area senity. Well I'm sorry about that, Devin.

938
00:45:03,653 --> 00:45:05,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that is that is really unfair, just

939
00:45:05,693 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 4: on there quickly talking about the catamount, and sometimes they

940
00:45:09,973 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 4: let you get away with it. You can argue the context.

941
00:45:12,453 --> 00:45:15,253
Speaker 4: On Hobson Street, as I was going home, got a

942
00:45:15,253 --> 00:45:18,493
Speaker 4: phone call just after four o'clock and then I sort

943
00:45:18,533 --> 00:45:21,533
Speaker 4: of merged to the right where there are car parks there.

944
00:45:21,973 --> 00:45:24,133
Speaker 4: But apparently it's a transit lane, so it was only

945
00:45:24,213 --> 00:45:26,653
Speaker 4: a transit lane or it was not a transit lane

946
00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:29,173
Speaker 4: for two minutes after I took that phone call. So

947
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:31,692
Speaker 4: sat there having a yarn. The guy the parking woulden

948
00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:34,172
Speaker 4: knocked on the window and he said, excuse me, look

949
00:45:34,173 --> 00:45:36,053
Speaker 4: at that sign. You can't park here. And I said

950
00:45:36,053 --> 00:45:39,172
Speaker 4: at that point, fair cop hung up, carried on. There

951
00:45:39,213 --> 00:45:40,773
Speaker 4: was no fine as far as I'm aware.

952
00:45:41,053 --> 00:45:43,692
Speaker 2: Fantastic love it. It's a lovely reta meet it made

953
00:45:43,733 --> 00:45:47,533
Speaker 2: type situation. Just a friendly back and forth between the

954
00:45:47,773 --> 00:45:52,212
Speaker 2: the you know, the citizens and the enforcement and it's

955
00:45:52,293 --> 00:45:54,853
Speaker 2: good common sense parking ward injury.

956
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:57,013
Speaker 4: Exactly do you think a robot would have done it?

957
00:45:57,173 --> 00:46:00,213
Speaker 2: Not someone whipping past it? Fifty k ping ping ping ping, ding, ping, ping, ping, ping,

958
00:46:00,293 --> 00:46:03,693
Speaker 2: ping ping ping, revenue drift netting, Yeah, exactly.

959
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:05,533
Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

960
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:06,413
Speaker 4: number to call this?

961
00:46:06,493 --> 00:46:08,893
Speaker 2: Texas says wave or parking fines where there is a

962
00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:11,053
Speaker 2: free space next door. If they can detect when a

963
00:46:11,093 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 2: car is parked, they can detect when one isn't. Solves

964
00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 2: all disputes. See, that's the thing. As the technology is deployed,

965
00:46:17,613 --> 00:46:19,133
Speaker 2: then it should be able to have the ability. If

966
00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:21,533
Speaker 2: they're driving down a street on a Sunday and there's

967
00:46:21,853 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 2: no cars around and there's plenty of space to park,

968
00:46:24,853 --> 00:46:28,453
Speaker 2: then don't ping people or if it's quiet for whatever reason,

969
00:46:28,653 --> 00:46:31,573
Speaker 2: if it's not causing a congestion problem, then then then

970
00:46:31,973 --> 00:46:33,813
Speaker 2: are they willing when as they get the tech gets

971
00:46:33,813 --> 00:46:36,493
Speaker 2: more and more advanced to put in use that tech

972
00:46:36,613 --> 00:46:41,293
Speaker 2: to let people off to widen you know, the the

973
00:46:41,573 --> 00:46:44,573
Speaker 2: you know, the decision making to the point where, look,

974
00:46:44,573 --> 00:46:47,252
Speaker 2: there's no point in parking stinging this area. There's plenty

975
00:46:47,253 --> 00:46:48,493
Speaker 2: of parks they should do.

976
00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:50,773
Speaker 4: But when they're pulling in thirty five million dollars of

977
00:46:50,853 --> 00:46:53,453
Speaker 4: fins a year, I don't know. Something tells me they're

978
00:46:53,453 --> 00:46:56,253
Speaker 4: not going to utilize that sort of technology. They love

979
00:46:56,373 --> 00:46:57,093
Speaker 4: stinging fines.

980
00:46:57,173 --> 00:46:59,653
Speaker 2: It always goes one way, doesn't it? The efficiency always

981
00:46:59,653 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 2: goes one way, certainly does.

982
00:47:01,253 --> 00:47:03,613
Speaker 4: It adds fourteen pars too, But taking more of your

983
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:05,813
Speaker 4: calls if you can't get through, keep trying. Oh, one

984
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:09,813
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

985
00:47:08,373 --> 00:47:13,413
Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

986
00:47:13,653 --> 00:47:16,453
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

987
00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:21,493
Speaker 4: Zed B, News Talk zed B. We are talking about

988
00:47:21,533 --> 00:47:24,732
Speaker 4: at doubling the number of parking infringements over the past

989
00:47:24,813 --> 00:47:27,652
Speaker 4: year utilizing state of the art technology. Is it fair

990
00:47:27,693 --> 00:47:28,373
Speaker 4: love to hear from you.

991
00:47:28,933 --> 00:47:32,893
Speaker 2: Is it fair enough? Do the crime commit the fay

992
00:47:32,933 --> 00:47:35,652
Speaker 2: the fine? Yep, there it is? Or is it a

993
00:47:35,693 --> 00:47:39,213
Speaker 2: tech overreached treating the citizens of the good citizens of

994
00:47:39,293 --> 00:47:44,293
Speaker 2: cities is just a resource to be fine farmed, Margaret.

995
00:47:44,293 --> 00:47:46,573
Speaker 2: I was charged for three minutes over on a stretch

996
00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:48,893
Speaker 2: of road with no other cars around me, which was

997
00:47:48,933 --> 00:47:50,373
Speaker 2: not meeted by a traffic officer.

998
00:47:50,733 --> 00:47:52,293
Speaker 4: Okay, see unfair.

999
00:47:52,373 --> 00:47:53,893
Speaker 2: So well you know, but there's a traffic officer that

1000
00:47:53,973 --> 00:47:54,173
Speaker 2: did it.

1001
00:47:54,373 --> 00:47:56,733
Speaker 4: Oh okay, right, Well, well that is the human factor.

1002
00:47:56,853 --> 00:47:59,333
Speaker 2: I asked before whether I was winging or complaining This

1003
00:47:59,493 --> 00:48:02,573
Speaker 2: TEXTA and caps is winging with an exclamation mark?

1004
00:48:02,653 --> 00:48:03,813
Speaker 4: Is that winging about winging?

1005
00:48:03,853 --> 00:48:04,013
Speaker 14: Though?

1006
00:48:04,133 --> 00:48:05,692
Speaker 4: I mean, that's where we will get to it at

1007
00:48:05,733 --> 00:48:06,093
Speaker 4: this point.

1008
00:48:06,693 --> 00:48:10,093
Speaker 2: Well, I asked for it, didn't I certainly did, Glenn.

1009
00:48:10,493 --> 00:48:10,973
Speaker 2: How are you?

1010
00:48:11,813 --> 00:48:12,013
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1011
00:48:12,053 --> 00:48:14,573
Speaker 2: Good mate, Sell, very good, thanks for calling in.

1012
00:48:15,453 --> 00:48:18,653
Speaker 17: Yeah, so it's not why I don't live in Auckland.

1013
00:48:18,653 --> 00:48:22,333
Speaker 17: I live in Wellington and I live on a like

1014
00:48:22,413 --> 00:48:25,653
Speaker 17: a bus route and I thought, oh, in seat of

1015
00:48:25,693 --> 00:48:27,733
Speaker 17: parking my car half on the road, half on the

1016
00:48:27,773 --> 00:48:29,973
Speaker 17: footpath to make sure that there's going to be enough

1017
00:48:30,093 --> 00:48:33,693
Speaker 17: room cars coming pass buses and stuff like that, but

1018
00:48:33,773 --> 00:48:39,293
Speaker 17: I parked it on my boom and one night somebody

1019
00:48:39,333 --> 00:48:42,373
Speaker 17: had come around gave me a two dollars no ridge

1020
00:48:42,373 --> 00:48:46,613
Speaker 17: fine and parking on the boom at ten thirty at night.

1021
00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:50,172
Speaker 2: That hurts at teen thirty at night. So what are

1022
00:48:50,213 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 2: they doing out at ten thirty at.

1023
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:54,053
Speaker 4: Night trying to catch people like Glynn?

1024
00:48:54,053 --> 00:48:58,172
Speaker 2: Clearly that's really that, that's revenue it's got They've got

1025
00:48:58,173 --> 00:49:00,853
Speaker 2: to stop that kind of behavior, yeah, because because you

1026
00:49:00,893 --> 00:49:02,333
Speaker 2: know at that point they're not doing it for any

1027
00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:05,693
Speaker 2: other reason. They're to ping people for cat Yeah.

1028
00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:07,732
Speaker 17: So like yeah, so I thought, what the hell? So

1029
00:49:07,813 --> 00:49:11,853
Speaker 17: I disputed it and said, well they're a bus through

1030
00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 17: you know, I'd rather part my car off the road

1031
00:49:15,533 --> 00:49:17,173
Speaker 17: so my car doesn't get hit by a bus or

1032
00:49:17,293 --> 00:49:20,893
Speaker 17: people you know, having to wait long time, keep passing

1033
00:49:20,893 --> 00:49:24,333
Speaker 17: any type thing. And they wavered the Burmfinne but still

1034
00:49:24,373 --> 00:49:25,133
Speaker 17: did me for the redge.

1035
00:49:26,453 --> 00:49:29,173
Speaker 4: Yeah see, I mean registration to me, I think that

1036
00:49:29,213 --> 00:49:31,493
Speaker 4: should purely just be police officers. I don't think the

1037
00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:33,933
Speaker 4: council should have any right to sting a car that

1038
00:49:33,973 --> 00:49:36,173
Speaker 4: doesn't have a registration. That just feels outside of the

1039
00:49:36,333 --> 00:49:38,692
Speaker 4: jurisdic Get out of it, stick to your I mean,

1040
00:49:39,133 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 4: arguably parking isn't there jurisdiction, but just you know, stick

1041
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 4: to your own lane. Eighty you can't be whacking people

1042
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:47,013
Speaker 4: for no warrants and no regil as well. Yeah, just

1043
00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:49,732
Speaker 4: get out of it, Yeah, come on, yeah, get out.

1044
00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:52,173
Speaker 4: Arguably Glenn got dobbed on by one of his neighbors

1045
00:49:52,173 --> 00:49:53,693
Speaker 4: as well. So this is what happens if becomes a

1046
00:49:53,813 --> 00:49:56,973
Speaker 4: Gestapo situation where your neighbors are dobbing in boys.

1047
00:49:57,013 --> 00:50:00,093
Speaker 2: This behavior by a parasitic bureaucracy is entirely consistent with

1048
00:50:00,173 --> 00:50:04,413
Speaker 2: their objectives. If you want independent forms of transportation, you

1049
00:50:04,453 --> 00:50:06,893
Speaker 2: will pay and be bled dry for it. Eighty want

1050
00:50:06,933 --> 00:50:09,613
Speaker 2: you on buses and trains on cycles, so you can't

1051
00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:13,613
Speaker 2: leave their greedy grasp. Get out while you can, regard Stephen,

1052
00:50:14,253 --> 00:50:17,053
Speaker 2: I don't know how you get out, Get out of

1053
00:50:17,093 --> 00:50:19,453
Speaker 2: the busy, keep fighting that power. Well, I mean, part

1054
00:50:19,453 --> 00:50:23,013
Speaker 2: of me is suspicious that they have invested so much

1055
00:50:23,253 --> 00:50:27,373
Speaker 2: in certain areas that they have to make it work. Yeah,

1056
00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:30,333
Speaker 2: so you know, and they pull leave. They've got the

1057
00:50:30,453 --> 00:50:33,772
Speaker 2: levers on either side, so they can they can choke

1058
00:50:34,013 --> 00:50:37,413
Speaker 2: and torture and make it as horrible as possible to

1059
00:50:37,493 --> 00:50:40,733
Speaker 2: be a car driver to make their other plans work. Yep, right,

1060
00:50:41,093 --> 00:50:44,613
Speaker 2: so it's a bit of an unfair war against the citizens.

1061
00:50:44,213 --> 00:50:46,253
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And when you double the number of

1062
00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:48,853
Speaker 4: infringements from two hundred thousand and a half a million,

1063
00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:52,613
Speaker 4: you've got a question. That's exactly what their policy is.

1064
00:50:52,973 --> 00:50:54,813
Speaker 4: But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1065
00:50:55,013 --> 00:50:58,893
Speaker 4: number to call Neville. You reckon, you've got a strategy

1066
00:50:58,973 --> 00:50:59,732
Speaker 4: to get out of a fine.

1067
00:51:01,293 --> 00:51:04,493
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is for the Wilson's Car Parking. So Wilson's

1068
00:51:04,493 --> 00:51:07,773
Speaker 16: Car Parking is a big Hong Kong based companies. They're

1069
00:51:07,853 --> 00:51:11,093
Speaker 16: huge and most of the car parking buildings in New

1070
00:51:11,133 --> 00:51:13,333
Speaker 16: Zealand and other car parks are managed by them. You

1071
00:51:13,413 --> 00:51:17,933
Speaker 16: guys all know Wilson's correct, yep, duty yeah, yeah, so yeah,

1072
00:51:18,013 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 16: So this was debated on the radio a while ago actually,

1073
00:51:20,853 --> 00:51:23,413
Speaker 16: and there was a lawyer that gave the one way

1074
00:51:24,133 --> 00:51:28,373
Speaker 16: to get off it. So listen close. Basically, this is

1075
00:51:28,413 --> 00:51:30,533
Speaker 16: what you do you take a photo of So let's

1076
00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:32,973
Speaker 16: say you're fifteen minutes over. You're paying ten dollars an

1077
00:51:32,973 --> 00:51:37,893
Speaker 16: hour for a car parking building, so that ten fifteen

1078
00:51:37,933 --> 00:51:40,652
Speaker 16: minutes over is two dollars fifty. That they've actually missed

1079
00:51:40,693 --> 00:51:42,413
Speaker 16: out on. So what you do is you take a

1080
00:51:42,453 --> 00:51:45,772
Speaker 16: photo of your car, so you've got photo time proof

1081
00:51:45,933 --> 00:51:50,173
Speaker 16: on your phone. When the eighty five or one hundred

1082
00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:53,693
Speaker 16: and twenty dollars fine arrives, you don't shag around. You

1083
00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:56,693
Speaker 16: don't contact anyone other than by email because it's a

1084
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:58,493
Speaker 16: waste of time trying to phone them. You won't get

1085
00:51:58,493 --> 00:52:02,253
Speaker 16: anybody anyway, and you dispute it and you offer them

1086
00:52:02,773 --> 00:52:06,373
Speaker 16: ten dollars, So that's being fair and reasonable. You're saying that, well,

1087
00:52:06,533 --> 00:52:10,173
Speaker 16: you've missed out two dollars fifty worth of parking, and

1088
00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:12,493
Speaker 16: here's a photo with the other empty parks and of

1089
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:17,652
Speaker 16: my cars. You've got all that proof, and you say

1090
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:19,973
Speaker 16: that this is the crucial bit. You say, otherwise this

1091
00:52:20,093 --> 00:52:22,533
Speaker 16: account is in dispute. So what you're doing is you're

1092
00:52:22,573 --> 00:52:25,213
Speaker 16: forcing them to go to the disputes tribune, and they

1093
00:52:25,253 --> 00:52:27,453
Speaker 16: won't want to bar of it. They'll just simply move

1094
00:52:27,533 --> 00:52:30,653
Speaker 16: on and they will threaten you with bake corp or

1095
00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:32,413
Speaker 16: a sort of those sorts of different things. But the

1096
00:52:32,533 --> 00:52:35,133
Speaker 16: fine's too small, and so what the lawyer that was

1097
00:52:35,173 --> 00:52:38,373
Speaker 16: on the radio set is that it's actually illegal for

1098
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:40,973
Speaker 16: Wilson's to call them a fine, so they call it

1099
00:52:41,133 --> 00:52:44,293
Speaker 16: something else to get around that. But if you do

1100
00:52:44,413 --> 00:52:47,732
Speaker 16: what I just said yet, they will just simply walk

1101
00:52:47,773 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 16: from it because it's not really it's a dodgy way

1102
00:52:51,013 --> 00:52:52,652
Speaker 16: that they're doing it anyway, if it makes sense.

1103
00:52:52,853 --> 00:52:55,732
Speaker 2: Have you tried tried this and did it work?

1104
00:52:55,813 --> 00:52:58,453
Speaker 16: Yeah? But but I yeah, I got by doing that

1105
00:52:58,613 --> 00:53:01,613
Speaker 16: naturally before I heard the lawyer on the rathiaf anyway,

1106
00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:04,013
Speaker 16: So yeah, I'm probably bit like you guys, I thought

1107
00:53:04,093 --> 00:53:04,453
Speaker 16: back of this.

1108
00:53:06,053 --> 00:53:10,533
Speaker 2: Just talk us through this depth again. Sorry level.

1109
00:53:10,653 --> 00:53:13,533
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I don't know if he necessarily said that,

1110
00:53:13,613 --> 00:53:16,613
Speaker 16: but I've debated it with enough savvy people that they

1111
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:19,172
Speaker 16: would definitely do this. You take a photo of your car,

1112
00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:21,973
Speaker 16: so you've got you know that the ticket. You take

1113
00:53:21,973 --> 00:53:24,333
Speaker 16: a photo of your car with the ticket in the photo,

1114
00:53:24,333 --> 00:53:26,093
Speaker 16: if that makes sense, so you can see that you're

1115
00:53:26,133 --> 00:53:29,133
Speaker 16: maybe twelve minutes over, so therefore you've got proof that

1116
00:53:29,173 --> 00:53:31,093
Speaker 16: you're back at the car. It's not like it's three

1117
00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:34,533
Speaker 16: airs or something silly. And then you wait for the

1118
00:53:34,613 --> 00:53:37,573
Speaker 16: fine to arrive. Once it does, you don't muck around.

1119
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:41,613
Speaker 16: You just simply dispute it. But you offer them for

1120
00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:45,453
Speaker 16: what Because I mean Essentially, they're charging you for losses,

1121
00:53:46,013 --> 00:53:48,652
Speaker 16: and so they've lost down in that particular instance two

1122
00:53:48,693 --> 00:53:51,133
Speaker 16: dollars fifty, haven't they, Because it's ten dollars an hour.

1123
00:53:51,693 --> 00:53:55,293
Speaker 16: You're fifteen minutes over, so quarter of ten dollars is

1124
00:53:55,373 --> 00:53:58,893
Speaker 16: two dollars fifty. So you would you would write a nice, sensible,

1125
00:53:59,013 --> 00:54:03,013
Speaker 16: non emotional reply to their ticket in an email or

1126
00:54:03,093 --> 00:54:05,533
Speaker 16: however you would do it, and you would be going,

1127
00:54:05,573 --> 00:54:07,533
Speaker 16: we've missed out in two dollars fifty. As a good

1128
00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:10,253
Speaker 16: will gesture, will offer you ten dollars, which means that

1129
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:15,733
Speaker 16: you're being recompensed for one hour. The eighty five dollars

1130
00:54:15,853 --> 00:54:17,373
Speaker 16: or one hundred and twenty dollars or whatever it is

1131
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:20,933
Speaker 16: that there wanting from you is disproportionate to the loss.

1132
00:54:21,653 --> 00:54:23,893
Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense because it is it's been

1133
00:54:23,973 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 4: reasonable on their genuine loss of income because they've got

1134
00:54:26,613 --> 00:54:29,573
Speaker 4: a business they're running. But this idea of an infringement

1135
00:54:29,693 --> 00:54:33,413
Speaker 4: notice which means nothing at one hundred and twenty bucks,

1136
00:54:33,493 --> 00:54:37,133
Speaker 4: that is not reasonable if you're six minutes over, that's right.

1137
00:54:37,213 --> 00:54:39,813
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a gotcha moment, and they will just simply

1138
00:54:39,893 --> 00:54:43,253
Speaker 16: walk from it. They won't. It would be incredibly unusual

1139
00:54:43,373 --> 00:54:45,692
Speaker 16: for them to meet you in the disputes tribunal because

1140
00:54:45,733 --> 00:54:49,973
Speaker 16: that's essentially what you're saying. So Baycorp or any anyone

1141
00:54:50,373 --> 00:54:52,893
Speaker 16: will not pursue that because you've said this account is

1142
00:54:52,933 --> 00:54:53,533
Speaker 16: in dispute.

1143
00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:55,893
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm definitely going to try that and neve

1144
00:54:55,893 --> 00:54:56,413
Speaker 2: all next time.

1145
00:54:56,573 --> 00:54:57,413
Speaker 4: That is a great tip.

1146
00:54:57,493 --> 00:54:58,613
Speaker 2: I'll try it and I'll get back to you.

1147
00:54:58,773 --> 00:54:58,973
Speaker 4: Yep.

1148
00:54:59,653 --> 00:55:01,373
Speaker 2: Hey guys. A couple of months ago, we drove into

1149
00:55:01,413 --> 00:55:03,813
Speaker 2: the city first time for four to five years. This

1150
00:55:04,053 --> 00:55:07,133
Speaker 2: is Auckland's CBD. What a mess. Even the GPS was

1151
00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:10,893
Speaker 2: confused getting us there. On God, the GPS really struggles.

1152
00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:13,573
Speaker 2: Google Maps and Apple Maps really struggle with what's happening

1153
00:55:13,613 --> 00:55:16,293
Speaker 2: in the city of Auckland moment. A while ago, we

1154
00:55:16,413 --> 00:55:17,812
Speaker 2: got to take it for one hundred and fifty dollars

1155
00:55:17,813 --> 00:55:21,013
Speaker 2: for driving through a special area which was described in

1156
00:55:21,053 --> 00:55:23,933
Speaker 2: a very long paragraph. On our way home, we saw

1157
00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:26,853
Speaker 2: no signs, so we emailed read this, but no, still

1158
00:55:26,893 --> 00:55:28,732
Speaker 2: had to pay the fine. A bit tough, I think

1159
00:55:28,773 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 2: regards Sue.

1160
00:55:30,253 --> 00:55:32,172
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for that text. And you're not wrong.

1161
00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:34,493
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number?

1162
00:55:34,573 --> 00:55:34,813
Speaker 6: To cool?

1163
00:55:34,853 --> 00:55:36,973
Speaker 4: Love to hear your story. If you've been fine recently,

1164
00:55:37,053 --> 00:55:39,212
Speaker 4: what happened? It is twenty five past two.

1165
00:55:43,133 --> 00:55:45,493
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1166
00:55:45,573 --> 00:55:48,853
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1167
00:55:48,973 --> 00:55:52,573
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1168
00:55:52,613 --> 00:55:54,933
Speaker 2: helped thousands of kiwis use the equity in their homes

1169
00:55:54,973 --> 00:55:58,173
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1170
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1171
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1172
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Speaker 2: it in plain English. You don't have to be a

1173
00:56:05,853 --> 00:56:09,133
Speaker 2: finance nerd to get it. We got into it on

1174
00:56:09,213 --> 00:56:12,173
Speaker 2: the Alternative Guide to Property Investment on the Staircase podcast.

1175
00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:15,893
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Speaker 2: it out on iHeartRadio or find it at Staircase, dot co,

1180
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Speaker 2: dot and z. It's eye opening stuff.

1181
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,413
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

1182
00:56:33,773 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used

1183
00:56:37,613 --> 00:56:38,973
Speaker 1: talks that'd be afternoon.

1184
00:56:39,053 --> 00:56:41,413
Speaker 4: So when it comes to parking fines as technology making

1185
00:56:41,493 --> 00:56:44,692
Speaker 4: things fairer or just faster at catching us out, love

1186
00:56:44,773 --> 00:56:46,893
Speaker 4: to hear from you. Nine to nine tools the text number.

1187
00:56:47,173 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 2: Jane says, Hi, Tyler and Matt. It's Matt and Tyler

1188
00:56:50,013 --> 00:56:52,853
Speaker 2: actually official name of the show. But I will accept that,

1189
00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:56,292
Speaker 2: all right, low that one through. Yeah, Hi, Tyler and Matt.

1190
00:56:56,293 --> 00:56:59,172
Speaker 2: I understand the one second ticket. I feel a five

1191
00:56:59,253 --> 00:57:01,933
Speaker 2: minute drop off and pickup zone must be very close

1192
00:57:02,013 --> 00:57:05,133
Speaker 2: by if everyone stopped there to pick up collectively, it

1193
00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:08,733
Speaker 2: must drive a cafe in customers nuts, say fifty two

1194
00:57:08,813 --> 00:57:12,133
Speaker 2: cars pulling in out fast cause accidents. I would feel

1195
00:57:12,173 --> 00:57:13,933
Speaker 2: like I was trying to enjoy a coffee with a

1196
00:57:14,013 --> 00:57:16,453
Speaker 2: friend in the middle of a racetrack of cars. Pull

1197
00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:19,813
Speaker 2: up doors, open doors, slam close, and the next pulls

1198
00:57:19,853 --> 00:57:24,333
Speaker 2: up walk down the road. Okay, Sorry, that one's just disappeared.

1199
00:57:25,493 --> 00:57:27,333
Speaker 2: Moving it over, so many texts coming in, I'll just

1200
00:57:27,413 --> 00:57:31,093
Speaker 2: get to the end of it. Sorry. I would feel

1201
00:57:31,133 --> 00:57:32,733
Speaker 2: like I was trying to enjoy a coffee with a

1202
00:57:32,773 --> 00:57:34,813
Speaker 2: friend in the middle of a racetrack of cars. Pull

1203
00:57:34,893 --> 00:57:37,533
Speaker 2: up doors, open doors, slam close, and the next pulls up,

1204
00:57:37,893 --> 00:57:41,493
Speaker 2: walk down the road for a pickup. Good for you, Jane, hmm.

1205
00:57:41,973 --> 00:57:44,613
Speaker 4: I mean, arguably that's better for the cafe if you've

1206
00:57:44,693 --> 00:57:47,493
Speaker 4: just got rolling cars actually doing what you should be doing.

1207
00:57:47,613 --> 00:57:50,053
Speaker 4: Five minute pack up or less, get out there, get

1208
00:57:50,093 --> 00:57:52,133
Speaker 4: into the cafe and then roll into the next one.

1209
00:57:52,213 --> 00:57:55,413
Speaker 2: Surely there's more, but those fifteen minute ones aren't in

1210
00:57:55,453 --> 00:57:58,093
Speaker 2: front of cafes. They're in front of dairies. Yeah, so

1211
00:57:58,173 --> 00:58:00,853
Speaker 2: they put the really short ones in front of places

1212
00:58:00,893 --> 00:58:03,013
Speaker 2: where you're in and out to keep people rolling through

1213
00:58:03,013 --> 00:58:05,613
Speaker 2: because you know, I totally understand that kind of enforcement,

1214
00:58:05,693 --> 00:58:09,213
Speaker 2: because a dairy doesn't want three people there all day,

1215
00:58:09,773 --> 00:58:13,253
Speaker 2: you know, and that doesn't help anyone. You want people

1216
00:58:13,373 --> 00:58:15,453
Speaker 2: there and on there and on there and on buying

1217
00:58:15,493 --> 00:58:17,853
Speaker 2: and going and getting their rubbish and getting out exactly.

1218
00:58:17,973 --> 00:58:18,173
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1219
00:58:18,213 --> 00:58:19,773
Speaker 4: But a bang butter boom, And if I was caught

1220
00:58:19,813 --> 00:58:21,573
Speaker 4: out using it for more than five minutes, I'd take

1221
00:58:21,613 --> 00:58:23,013
Speaker 4: the hat as long as it was a human.

1222
00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:26,053
Speaker 2: That God, I'm not against that. I'm not against that.

1223
00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:28,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gary, you've got an unusual ticket.

1224
00:58:29,813 --> 00:58:34,093
Speaker 18: Yes, I'm up way up in the king Country and

1225
00:58:34,213 --> 00:58:38,533
Speaker 18: I've got a use and it's red and next thing,

1226
00:58:38,573 --> 00:58:41,013
Speaker 18: I got a ticket and you know where it come

1227
00:58:41,093 --> 00:58:45,413
Speaker 18: from Wellington, right, Well, I'm sorry to say, I haven't

1228
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:49,253
Speaker 18: been down to Wellington for thirty five years. So what

1229
00:58:49,453 --> 00:58:51,973
Speaker 18: I did was I went under the post office and

1230
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:55,013
Speaker 18: I said, this is not mine. And they said, you've

1231
00:58:55,013 --> 00:58:57,893
Speaker 18: got your number plates blah blah blah. I said, correct,

1232
00:58:58,693 --> 00:59:03,373
Speaker 18: it's your vehicle read. I said correct. And you know

1233
00:59:03,533 --> 00:59:06,413
Speaker 18: what it was. I went into the post office and

1234
00:59:06,973 --> 00:59:09,973
Speaker 18: a nice thick it is not mine. I haven't been

1235
00:59:10,053 --> 00:59:16,373
Speaker 18: down there for thirty five years. So they found out

1236
00:59:16,573 --> 00:59:20,413
Speaker 18: it was a vehicle that was red now mine the

1237
00:59:20,533 --> 00:59:25,933
Speaker 18: youth with number plate blah blah blah. And this car

1238
00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,653
Speaker 18: had the same number plate as what my track did.

1239
00:59:30,453 --> 00:59:32,493
Speaker 4: How does that work going you don't have the same

1240
00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:35,653
Speaker 4: number plate, it might be a similar looking vehicle, but

1241
00:59:37,133 --> 00:59:37,573
Speaker 4: it wasn't.

1242
00:59:37,613 --> 00:59:40,133
Speaker 2: It was a station wagon and they had the same

1243
00:59:40,253 --> 00:59:42,293
Speaker 2: number plate. Well that's a huge issue and you need

1244
00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:43,973
Speaker 2: to take that right to the top because if someone's

1245
00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:46,053
Speaker 2: impersonating your number plate, that's a serious crime.

1246
00:59:46,413 --> 00:59:46,933
Speaker 3: That's right.

1247
00:59:47,253 --> 00:59:48,773
Speaker 14: And my vehicle is a.

1248
00:59:50,453 --> 00:59:54,533
Speaker 11: What are we two man's to you lovely?

1249
00:59:54,733 --> 00:59:58,293
Speaker 18: And I said, hey, this is not mine, but this

1250
00:59:58,573 --> 01:00:01,333
Speaker 18: vehicle had the same number plate as what my track did.

1251
01:00:02,373 --> 01:00:04,533
Speaker 18: And I hadn't been off my farm for a week

1252
01:00:04,653 --> 01:00:07,093
Speaker 18: or so or whatever. And by the way, I hadn't

1253
01:00:07,133 --> 01:00:10,573
Speaker 18: been down to whelms And for thirty four years. So

1254
01:00:11,293 --> 01:00:14,933
Speaker 18: I said, you'd go and sort this out, because someone's

1255
01:00:14,933 --> 01:00:18,133
Speaker 18: got the number plate of my track.

1256
01:00:18,893 --> 01:00:22,493
Speaker 9: You that's got the number.

1257
01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:25,173
Speaker 18: Plate which them bought it brand you know, it's pretty

1258
01:00:25,213 --> 01:00:31,493
Speaker 18: near brand new, and I never will sort this out.

1259
01:00:31,533 --> 01:00:32,333
Speaker 18: Don't worry about it.

1260
01:00:32,493 --> 01:00:36,853
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's concerning Gary, that is very concerned. I'm

1261
01:00:36,853 --> 01:00:38,653
Speaker 4: sure they would have sorted that one out. Yeah, I

1262
01:00:38,693 --> 01:00:40,773
Speaker 4: mean it's very left field. There's got really nothing to

1263
01:00:40,853 --> 01:00:43,173
Speaker 4: do with at and the crazy old I remember when.

1264
01:00:43,053 --> 01:00:45,733
Speaker 2: I was a kid, there was a there was a

1265
01:00:45,773 --> 01:00:49,173
Speaker 2: TV show called Chips and someone and someone invented a

1266
01:00:49,293 --> 01:00:53,373
Speaker 2: number plate that spun round. It had four different number plates,

1267
01:00:53,413 --> 01:00:55,373
Speaker 2: and they could commit a crime and they press a

1268
01:00:55,413 --> 01:00:57,813
Speaker 2: button and it would it would flip round in another

1269
01:00:57,893 --> 01:01:01,693
Speaker 2: number plate. But Punch and John solved the mystery because

1270
01:01:01,693 --> 01:01:03,933
Speaker 2: they got flipped around to someone else's number plate that

1271
01:01:03,933 --> 01:01:05,773
Speaker 2: they investigated and they could tell it was the wrong

1272
01:01:05,893 --> 01:01:07,173
Speaker 2: car and they got them.

1273
01:01:07,213 --> 01:01:09,093
Speaker 4: They got the man in the end, So this could

1274
01:01:09,093 --> 01:01:11,013
Speaker 4: be happening to Gary. Gary, good luck with that.

1275
01:01:11,093 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 2: Mate, someone's running the Chips number play. There has a

1276
01:01:13,773 --> 01:01:15,813
Speaker 2: little button that flips around to a different number player.

1277
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,493
Speaker 4: Go watch that episode against some Tips.

1278
01:01:17,853 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 2: That's a terrifying conspiracy that's going on to you, Gary.

1279
01:01:20,653 --> 01:01:22,573
Speaker 2: It might also be aliens, yep, could be.

1280
01:01:22,693 --> 01:01:24,853
Speaker 4: Hopefully you sort that out, Gary, but thanks for giving

1281
01:01:24,893 --> 01:01:27,213
Speaker 4: us a buzz headlines with Raylene coming up, then we're

1282
01:01:27,253 --> 01:01:30,173
Speaker 4: going to carry this on. It is twenty seven to.

1283
01:01:30,213 --> 01:01:36,173
Speaker 12: Three you talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxes.

1284
01:01:36,333 --> 01:01:39,493
Speaker 12: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Chris Luxon will

1285
01:01:39,573 --> 01:01:42,573
Speaker 12: hold talks today with the Prime Minister of timor less Day,

1286
01:01:42,933 --> 01:01:46,893
Speaker 12: the latest country to join the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

1287
01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:50,973
Speaker 12: The Prime ministers has a busy day ahead of engagements

1288
01:01:51,013 --> 01:01:54,773
Speaker 12: and announcements and celebrations of fifty years of relations with

1289
01:01:54,973 --> 01:01:59,693
Speaker 12: us On. National's finance spokeswoman is rubbishing Labour's plans to

1290
01:01:59,813 --> 01:02:03,133
Speaker 12: campaign on a capital gains tax next to you, saying

1291
01:02:03,213 --> 01:02:06,973
Speaker 12: it'll slow the economy. Chris Hipkins says that tax residential

1292
01:02:07,013 --> 01:02:10,573
Speaker 12: and commercial property but not the family home, to put

1293
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Speaker 12: downward pressure on house prices and fund better healthcare. NAP

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01:02:15,613 --> 01:02:19,733
Speaker 12: City Council's advancing at stormwater infrastructure project and work on

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01:02:19,893 --> 01:02:23,413
Speaker 12: new homes are pump and water courses will start next year.

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Speaker 12: Central Auckland Boarding House. This station hotel has not made

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Speaker 12: a two hundred and forty thousand dollar payment to mb

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Speaker 12: over safety risks it was due on October eighth. Luna

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Speaker 12: has topped the list of favorite pet names for a

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Speaker 12: seventh year, followed by Milo, Charlie, Daisy and Bella, and

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Speaker 12: Tofu and Cheeto are among the more unusual names. Inside

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Speaker 12: Might attends a big plan to challenge rivals and close

1303
01:02:50,213 --> 01:02:53,613
Speaker 12: an Auckland gap. You can see more at Ensignhirall Premium.

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Speaker 12: Back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylane.

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01:02:57,293 --> 01:02:59,093
Speaker 2: I might have been a little bit dismissive of Gary.

1307
01:02:59,373 --> 01:03:01,213
Speaker 2: I thought that this kind of thing just didn't happen.

1308
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:03,213
Speaker 2: But a bunch of people are texting in and saying

1309
01:03:04,013 --> 01:03:07,573
Speaker 2: bogus number plates floating around cars that look very different

1310
01:03:07,613 --> 01:03:10,493
Speaker 2: from their own with getting speeding tickets in towns they

1311
01:03:10,493 --> 01:03:12,773
Speaker 2: haven't been to. Yeah, I'll apologize to Gary.

1312
01:03:13,173 --> 01:03:15,253
Speaker 4: Sorry, Gary, I thought at the bottom of there.

1313
01:03:15,373 --> 01:03:17,373
Speaker 2: My only explanation. I came up with shape with shape

1314
01:03:17,373 --> 01:03:20,013
Speaker 2: shifting aliens, but it looks like it's quite a common

1315
01:03:20,053 --> 01:03:23,813
Speaker 2: thing apparently. Also, someone here says that didn't Night Riders

1316
01:03:24,373 --> 01:03:28,413
Speaker 2: number plate flip too. Yeah, Kid had a flipping number

1317
01:03:28,413 --> 01:03:30,133
Speaker 2: plate as well, but he was on the side of good.

1318
01:03:30,933 --> 01:03:34,613
Speaker 2: Michael Knight and Kit were on the side of good. So,

1319
01:03:34,773 --> 01:03:37,653
Speaker 2: you know, unlike the bad guys on chips. If it's

1320
01:03:37,693 --> 01:03:39,693
Speaker 2: happened to you by all means ticks through nine to

1321
01:03:40,053 --> 01:03:43,733
Speaker 2: nine two, that's really concerning it is. I'm sure I

1322
01:03:43,773 --> 01:03:45,413
Speaker 2: don't need to tell you guys. There are lots of

1323
01:03:45,493 --> 01:03:48,413
Speaker 2: bogus plates out there, so to people, how are the

1324
01:03:48,453 --> 01:03:50,933
Speaker 2: people doing it? Are they are they are they just

1325
01:03:50,973 --> 01:03:54,413
Speaker 2: putting a sticker over the plate or are they printing

1326
01:03:54,573 --> 01:03:56,853
Speaker 2: up at your proper bogus plates?

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01:03:57,133 --> 01:03:59,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it must be a similar car, right because

1328
01:03:59,293 --> 01:04:01,693
Speaker 4: if they do that and I've got a sticker or

1329
01:04:01,693 --> 01:04:04,333
Speaker 4: a bogus plate, then they get a fine and it

1330
01:04:04,373 --> 01:04:06,893
Speaker 4: pops up and it's a different vehicle. That kind of

1331
01:04:06,893 --> 01:04:09,093
Speaker 4: stops right there, doesn't it risky.

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01:04:08,853 --> 01:04:10,893
Speaker 2: If you get pulled over by the cops and if

1333
01:04:10,933 --> 01:04:13,573
Speaker 2: the plates don't match the look of the car. So

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01:04:13,733 --> 01:04:16,173
Speaker 2: in that case, if it's if it's a ute and

1335
01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:18,933
Speaker 2: not a yute, then the cops are going to get

1336
01:04:19,013 --> 01:04:24,253
Speaker 2: pretty they're gonna get pretty angry. They'll get very angry.

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Speaker 4: And I got it right there, a bit pretty finy

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Speaker 4: h Jane.

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01:04:28,053 --> 01:04:29,053
Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon?

1340
01:04:29,693 --> 01:04:30,173
Speaker 19: Thank good?

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01:04:30,333 --> 01:04:31,493
Speaker 4: How are you very good?

1342
01:04:31,573 --> 01:04:31,613
Speaker 3: So?

1343
01:04:31,653 --> 01:04:33,053
Speaker 4: What are you reckon about the parking tickets?

1344
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:37,333
Speaker 19: Well, I sent the text. I just think, for a start,

1345
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:40,773
Speaker 19: it won't have been one second unless they're wiggle their

1346
01:04:40,853 --> 01:04:44,253
Speaker 19: no's and managed to get themselves like what's in apple.

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01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:44,493
Speaker 6: Which to it?

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Speaker 19: It's annoying when you you've got people coming and going,

1349
01:04:49,333 --> 01:04:52,053
Speaker 19: people coming and going, when they could actually get onto

1350
01:04:52,053 --> 01:04:54,493
Speaker 19: their feet and walk down the road to pick somebody up,

1351
01:04:54,533 --> 01:04:59,133
Speaker 19: unless there's a wheelchair or something involved. And if there was,

1352
01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:00,733
Speaker 19: I don't know. You've got a wheel bee, you can

1353
01:05:00,773 --> 01:05:03,213
Speaker 19: put your wheelchair thing up. I don't know. But I

1354
01:05:03,373 --> 01:05:05,253
Speaker 19: just think that anywhere that can't walk a little bit

1355
01:05:05,293 --> 01:05:08,773
Speaker 19: further to organize their pick up, not right outside cafe,

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01:05:09,133 --> 01:05:10,933
Speaker 19: deserves the prefet Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well that's not very nice, is it, Jane? So I mean,

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01:05:15,493 --> 01:05:20,293
Speaker 2: so so you think that people should be pinged, Like

1359
01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:22,413
Speaker 2: if there's a park in front of a cafe, you

1360
01:05:22,493 --> 01:05:25,053
Speaker 2: should think that they should be pinged just because they

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01:05:25,093 --> 01:05:27,013
Speaker 2: didn't walk. You don't know where they're coming from.

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Speaker 19: What's there a proper park right outside the cafe? Well,

1363
01:05:32,453 --> 01:05:34,373
Speaker 19: well just pulling as he said he did.

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Speaker 2: Well, what about the glorious moment when you get when

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01:05:37,293 --> 01:05:38,653
Speaker 2: you get a park in front of the you know,

1366
01:05:38,693 --> 01:05:40,533
Speaker 2: you get the dream park every now and then you

1367
01:05:40,613 --> 01:05:42,173
Speaker 2: just get the dream park and you celebrate it.

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Speaker 19: Well, yeah, you can do that, that's the way the

1369
01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:47,133
Speaker 19: cafe wants it. But personally, we've got a lot in

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Speaker 19: christ Church where you can sit outside you feel like

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01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:53,853
Speaker 19: cars are coming. It's only the only one car here.

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01:05:53,933 --> 01:05:56,413
Speaker 19: Isn't the only one that would do that? And I

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01:05:56,573 --> 01:05:58,253
Speaker 19: just think there if you go to a cafe with

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01:05:58,453 --> 01:05:59,813
Speaker 19: it's been the New York to sick and have a

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01:05:59,893 --> 01:06:02,373
Speaker 19: chat in peace and quiet, it's all really noisy in

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01:06:02,453 --> 01:06:04,293
Speaker 19: those cafa So you sit outside and you've got a

1377
01:06:04,373 --> 01:06:09,173
Speaker 19: cow whipping up, opening doors, slamming doors, putting children, cast

1378
01:06:09,253 --> 01:06:10,973
Speaker 19: seats and got only that's.

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Speaker 2: Living in a city around other human beings. Like there

1380
01:06:13,493 --> 01:06:15,213
Speaker 2: are plenty of places, there's plenty of places in the

1381
01:06:15,253 --> 01:06:17,133
Speaker 2: country that you can go where there's no cars.

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Speaker 19: I would just get irritated by things coming and going.

1383
01:06:22,253 --> 01:06:24,693
Speaker 19: As only as what's passed the would be in christ

1384
01:06:24,733 --> 01:06:26,213
Speaker 19: which I don't know. In Auckland.

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Speaker 4: Christ Shoots, yeah, I will say christ Shoot is very

1386
01:06:34,173 --> 01:06:36,533
Speaker 4: different to Auckland. But they're coming for you christ Shoots. Yeah,

1387
01:06:36,733 --> 01:06:38,453
Speaker 4: you know they're coming for you as well, Jane, and

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01:06:39,493 --> 01:06:41,493
Speaker 4: Jane's coming out against the coming and going. So a

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01:06:41,533 --> 01:06:44,013
Speaker 4: cafe loves the coming and going. Yeah, you know, businesses

1390
01:06:44,093 --> 01:06:45,133
Speaker 4: want people coming and going.

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Speaker 2: They want people arriving, spending some money. Yep, driving off,

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01:06:49,293 --> 01:06:51,693
Speaker 2: that's it, coming back, it's good for business. Get finding

1393
01:06:51,733 --> 01:06:52,293
Speaker 2: the dream part.

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01:06:52,413 --> 01:06:55,053
Speaker 4: You want them smashing through one by one and more

1395
01:06:55,093 --> 01:06:55,973
Speaker 4: people in the car there better.

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Speaker 2: And if you live in cities, you're going to get

1397
01:06:57,733 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 2: people coming and going. Yea that people come and go

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01:07:00,133 --> 01:07:01,333
Speaker 2: all over cities. That's what they do.

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Speaker 5: Do a right.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call Sally.

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01:07:05,933 --> 01:07:07,133
Speaker 2: You're another plate was stolen?

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01:07:09,013 --> 01:07:11,853
Speaker 19: Yeah, something very odd is going on, and I just

1403
01:07:12,013 --> 01:07:17,293
Speaker 19: thought that I would share it. My son has a

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01:07:17,493 --> 01:07:22,413
Speaker 19: car that was part you know, safely in our garage

1405
01:07:22,453 --> 01:07:25,453
Speaker 19: and you got a phone call from the police to

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01:07:25,573 --> 01:07:31,893
Speaker 19: say did he own this particular number plate and what

1407
01:07:32,053 --> 01:07:35,253
Speaker 19: is it called the number or whatever? And he said, yes,

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01:07:35,293 --> 01:07:37,933
Speaker 19: that's right. It's in the garage. And they said that

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01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:44,133
Speaker 19: in Auckland there was a car that we would assume,

1410
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:45,933
Speaker 19: you know, must have been pulled over or whatever, and

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01:07:46,013 --> 01:07:49,773
Speaker 19: when they ran the plates on that car, it said

1412
01:07:49,933 --> 01:07:57,093
Speaker 19: that it actually belonged to my son who we are

1413
01:07:57,133 --> 01:08:00,813
Speaker 19: in the South Island. So yeah, we haven't actually heard

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01:08:00,893 --> 01:08:06,533
Speaker 19: back from the police about that. We've tried. Clearly something major.

1415
01:08:06,333 --> 01:08:09,013
Speaker 2: Going on, so that again, so.

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01:08:10,733 --> 01:08:12,333
Speaker 19: I don't astad of go into it too much, but

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01:08:12,453 --> 01:08:18,893
Speaker 19: basically it does look like somebody can change their number

1418
01:08:18,973 --> 01:08:22,693
Speaker 19: plate to a number plate of a car that is

1419
01:08:23,133 --> 01:08:27,333
Speaker 19: not new, like a two thousand sustained car, which you

1420
01:08:27,452 --> 01:08:29,933
Speaker 19: can't You just can't get your head around how that

1421
01:08:30,053 --> 01:08:32,772
Speaker 19: can happen. So there's something going on somewhere, whether it's

1422
01:08:32,812 --> 01:08:35,772
Speaker 19: that I don't know who does the number plates in

1423
01:08:35,973 --> 01:08:39,612
Speaker 19: ZTA or whatever, something dodgy is happening with number plates

1424
01:08:39,612 --> 01:08:42,292
Speaker 19: at the moment. And Auckland, I've heard that from the place.

1425
01:08:42,492 --> 01:08:44,973
Speaker 4: Wow, where we've tapped into something. To you, I had

1426
01:08:45,013 --> 01:08:46,852
Speaker 4: no idea, I mean that I would have thought that's

1427
01:08:46,893 --> 01:08:49,133
Speaker 4: a good use of this crazy technology, that that that

1428
01:08:49,253 --> 01:08:51,013
Speaker 4: sort of thing can't happen, but clearly it is.

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01:08:51,452 --> 01:08:54,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, now what what happens if you if you're pulled

1430
01:08:54,572 --> 01:08:57,612
Speaker 2: over and you have bogus number plates, like you've knicked

1431
01:08:57,612 --> 01:09:00,412
Speaker 2: the number plate. I imagine that's a major crime, right.

1432
01:09:00,492 --> 01:09:03,173
Speaker 4: Your stuffed at that point. Surely that is an instant

1433
01:09:03,253 --> 01:09:07,012
Speaker 4: court appearance and maybe maybe even jail time will Certainly

1434
01:09:07,093 --> 01:09:11,013
Speaker 4: there's a there'd be a signal magnificant punishment for that. Oh,

1435
01:09:11,053 --> 01:09:12,892
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you know, if

1436
01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:14,692
Speaker 4: you're with the police, love to hear from you, nine

1437
01:09:14,772 --> 01:09:15,452
Speaker 4: two ninety two.

1438
01:09:16,013 --> 01:09:18,333
Speaker 2: So yeah, So the punishment for faking number plates in

1439
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:21,732
Speaker 2: New Zealand are fine of five thousand dollars for displaying

1440
01:09:21,772 --> 01:09:23,973
Speaker 2: a non approof plate that's a non approof plate, and

1441
01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:26,532
Speaker 2: more self for penalties under crimes such as ten years

1442
01:09:26,572 --> 01:09:27,812
Speaker 2: imprisonment for forgery.

1443
01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:30,253
Speaker 4: So it's a risky things.

1444
01:09:30,732 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 2: If you're going to get into fake number plating, you're

1445
01:09:32,532 --> 01:09:37,173
Speaker 2: risking major, major problems.

1446
01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:38,973
Speaker 4: Just to save on a seventy dollars five. I mean,

1447
01:09:39,013 --> 01:09:41,732
Speaker 4: there's a risky move, right. We're going to play some messages,

1448
01:09:41,853 --> 01:09:43,412
Speaker 4: but we've got plenty of calls to get to.

1449
01:09:43,572 --> 01:09:45,013
Speaker 2: I mean, if someone's going to rob a bank, not

1450
01:09:45,053 --> 01:09:47,333
Speaker 2: the people really rob banks anymore. You know just in

1451
01:09:47,412 --> 01:09:50,532
Speaker 2: you're already committing a major crime. Maybe you you you know,

1452
01:09:50,692 --> 01:09:53,892
Speaker 2: you swapped the number plate just to put people off

1453
01:09:54,053 --> 01:09:56,692
Speaker 2: for some period of time. But if you're just driving

1454
01:09:56,772 --> 01:09:59,333
Speaker 2: around with a bogus number plate over a period of time,

1455
01:09:59,893 --> 01:10:01,532
Speaker 2: that's a risky way to go about things.

1456
01:10:01,612 --> 01:10:06,092
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is sixteen to three back very shortly. Smart cameras,

1457
01:10:07,053 --> 01:10:09,892
Speaker 4: are they fear or they unforgiving? Love to hear your

1458
01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:11,053
Speaker 4: thoughts back in a moment.

1459
01:10:12,213 --> 01:10:15,333
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads On eight ten eighty

1460
01:10:15,572 --> 01:10:19,012
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons used talk sa'd.

1461
01:10:18,812 --> 01:10:21,572
Speaker 4: Be fourteen to three. We have been talking about the

1462
01:10:21,812 --> 01:10:25,133
Speaker 4: use of technology when it comes to parking fines. Is

1463
01:10:25,213 --> 01:10:28,333
Speaker 4: that fearer or just faster at catching us all out unfairly?

1464
01:10:28,452 --> 01:10:30,732
Speaker 4: But we're kind of tapped into something about the old

1465
01:10:30,973 --> 01:10:34,772
Speaker 4: license plate numbers being utilized and necked in all sorts.

1466
01:10:34,973 --> 01:10:40,972
Speaker 2: I've proven myself a naive judgmental wound dismissing Gary's claim

1467
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:42,812
Speaker 2: that there was another car driving around with the same

1468
01:10:42,853 --> 01:10:46,052
Speaker 2: number plate as has so many people texting in saying

1469
01:10:46,093 --> 01:10:49,372
Speaker 2: that this number plate flowed all over the place. Had

1470
01:10:49,412 --> 01:10:52,012
Speaker 2: two mates with electric cars had their number plates stolen

1471
01:10:52,293 --> 01:10:55,812
Speaker 2: and used in petrol drive offs. In both cases, the

1472
01:10:55,853 --> 01:10:58,372
Speaker 2: petrol station chased them without even matching the plate to

1473
01:10:58,412 --> 01:11:02,412
Speaker 2: the cars. Our daughter's number plates were stolen off her

1474
01:11:02,452 --> 01:11:04,852
Speaker 2: car earlier in the year. We got them easily replaced,

1475
01:11:04,973 --> 01:11:08,372
Speaker 2: and we also bought anti tampa screws from Bunnings so

1476
01:11:08,412 --> 01:11:10,772
Speaker 2: the number plates can now not be taken off without

1477
01:11:10,772 --> 01:11:13,932
Speaker 2: a special tool. That's a good good idea. My boss

1478
01:11:13,973 --> 01:11:16,893
Speaker 2: got charged for doing a fuel drive off when we

1479
01:11:17,053 --> 01:11:20,732
Speaker 2: roamed in on the provided image. When we zoomed in

1480
01:11:20,812 --> 01:11:22,692
Speaker 2: on the provided image, we were able to see black

1481
01:11:22,812 --> 01:11:28,772
Speaker 2: tape changing one digit right. I worked for the police.

1482
01:11:29,532 --> 01:11:34,133
Speaker 2: Pretty common for people to steal number plates. Rear plate

1483
01:11:34,253 --> 01:11:36,173
Speaker 2: was pinched and another one put on. Apparently this is

1484
01:11:36,213 --> 01:11:38,333
Speaker 2: common use for petrol fills and drive off where the

1485
01:11:38,372 --> 01:11:41,572
Speaker 2: security reads the rear number plate. Had to get new plates,

1486
01:11:41,732 --> 01:11:44,973
Speaker 2: update regio, insurance, etc. Police took an interest. My new

1487
01:11:45,053 --> 01:11:47,093
Speaker 2: plate must have belonged to someone else too.

1488
01:11:47,772 --> 01:11:49,772
Speaker 4: That's what I love about toolback. You know, you start

1489
01:11:49,812 --> 01:11:51,732
Speaker 4: off with one topic and then find out there's a

1490
01:11:51,772 --> 01:11:54,452
Speaker 4: hot bed of plate thefts going on in this country.

1491
01:11:54,652 --> 01:11:57,372
Speaker 2: I owe Gary a huge If you're still listening, Gary,

1492
01:11:58,452 --> 01:11:59,492
Speaker 2: I owe you an apology.

1493
01:11:59,652 --> 01:12:02,013
Speaker 4: Yea, he deserves that. He sounded like a good man

1494
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:04,772
Speaker 4: and you just missed matter. I don't know what it

1495
01:12:04,853 --> 01:12:07,253
Speaker 4: turns out. Gary, Why did I think it was so insane?

1496
01:12:07,333 --> 01:12:09,333
Speaker 4: He hadn't been down to Welling for thirty five years.

1497
01:12:09,572 --> 01:12:11,732
Speaker 4: So Gary, we hope you get sorted on that. One

1498
01:12:12,133 --> 01:12:16,973
Speaker 4: O eighty is that number to call, Shelley. You've got

1499
01:12:16,973 --> 01:12:17,412
Speaker 4: a view on that.

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01:12:19,333 --> 01:12:21,492
Speaker 20: It's not so much of you. It was an experience

1501
01:12:21,732 --> 01:12:29,053
Speaker 20: which goes along with the conversation. About two years ago.

1502
01:12:30,053 --> 01:12:32,572
Speaker 20: I was concerned. We live on a sort of almost

1503
01:12:32,612 --> 01:12:34,372
Speaker 20: a one way straight and there was a car going

1504
01:12:34,492 --> 01:12:38,972
Speaker 20: down really fast, approximately one hundred k's in a suburban area.

1505
01:12:39,893 --> 01:12:42,293
Speaker 20: We have a local police station, and I went along

1506
01:12:42,372 --> 01:12:44,652
Speaker 20: to the police station and I explained what was happening,

1507
01:12:45,612 --> 01:12:49,492
Speaker 20: and he said to me, he was very helpful. After

1508
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:51,253
Speaker 20: a period of time, I was starting to take the

1509
01:12:51,372 --> 01:12:53,532
Speaker 20: number plate down of this particular car.

1510
01:12:55,093 --> 01:12:56,812
Speaker 18: Two cars and.

1511
01:12:57,732 --> 01:13:00,652
Speaker 20: Anyway, I took them, went along to the police station

1512
01:13:00,973 --> 01:13:04,852
Speaker 20: and it transpired because there was a drug some druggies

1513
01:13:05,652 --> 01:13:11,333
Speaker 20: nearby which were well known. Anyway, the police said to him,

1514
01:13:11,412 --> 01:13:13,213
Speaker 20: I said, oh, this is the car. It's now the

1515
01:13:13,333 --> 01:13:17,012
Speaker 20: ex da da da da. He said the number plates

1516
01:13:17,053 --> 01:13:20,452
Speaker 20: you've given me isn't correct. I said, look, I've double

1517
01:13:20,532 --> 01:13:21,733
Speaker 20: checked it twice.

1518
01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:23,612
Speaker 21: He said.

1519
01:13:23,772 --> 01:13:24,652
Speaker 7: I said, how does that be?

1520
01:13:24,853 --> 01:13:27,772
Speaker 20: He said, what's actually happening? And this was about two

1521
01:13:27,853 --> 01:13:33,492
Speaker 20: years ago. He said, people are getting number plates off

1522
01:13:34,053 --> 01:13:36,333
Speaker 20: It may have been Ali Express or one of the

1523
01:13:36,933 --> 01:13:42,172
Speaker 20: internet providers or something like that. And the fake plates.

1524
01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:46,412
Speaker 4: Well, how can that be legal? I mean, surely they

1525
01:13:46,452 --> 01:13:47,532
Speaker 4: get stopped at the border.

1526
01:13:48,853 --> 01:13:50,213
Speaker 6: Well it's not legal.

1527
01:13:51,013 --> 01:13:54,973
Speaker 20: Well, it wouldn't be legal, but who's going to know.

1528
01:13:56,093 --> 01:14:00,013
Speaker 20: So they put these false plates on which don't identify

1529
01:14:00,133 --> 01:14:02,053
Speaker 20: with the car, but the car was well known in

1530
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:06,772
Speaker 20: the area. The guy's subsequently gone to prison for the

1531
01:14:06,893 --> 01:14:11,772
Speaker 20: drugs and things. But yeah, he said, that's it's not

1532
01:14:12,013 --> 01:14:13,772
Speaker 20: uncommon far out.

1533
01:14:14,013 --> 01:14:16,692
Speaker 4: I mean, that is surprising, Shally. But it turns out,

1534
01:14:16,732 --> 01:14:18,572
Speaker 4: you know, we're getting a lot of text and phone

1535
01:14:18,612 --> 01:14:22,253
Speaker 4: calls about license plate theft and in your case, buying

1536
01:14:22,293 --> 01:14:23,852
Speaker 4: them off ELI Express and TIMU.

1537
01:14:25,532 --> 01:14:27,652
Speaker 20: I won't say it was Eli Express or team, but

1538
01:14:28,372 --> 01:14:30,052
Speaker 20: buying them offshore or something.

1539
01:14:30,452 --> 01:14:30,652
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1540
01:14:31,213 --> 01:14:34,293
Speaker 4: Not no, no, crazy, Well, good thing. It sounds like

1541
01:14:34,333 --> 01:14:37,293
Speaker 4: that guy's in prison for another matter, drug dealing. But yeah,

1542
01:14:37,333 --> 01:14:39,612
Speaker 4: that's crazy, Shlly. Thank you so much. For giving us

1543
01:14:39,652 --> 01:14:43,053
Speaker 4: a call. We have a great afternoon. One hundred and

1544
01:14:43,093 --> 01:14:45,293
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will be

1545
01:14:45,372 --> 01:14:47,452
Speaker 4: back very shortly. It is nine minutes to three.

1546
01:14:48,452 --> 01:14:50,852
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1547
01:14:50,933 --> 01:14:54,572
Speaker 1: along the way, mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

1548
01:14:54,173 --> 01:14:59,133
Speaker 4: NEWSTALKSB, NEWSTALKSB. It is six to three.

1549
01:14:59,492 --> 01:15:02,372
Speaker 2: I'm going to invest in. I can't believe I've missed

1550
01:15:02,412 --> 01:15:04,932
Speaker 2: this entire part of the world, this entire thing that's

1551
01:15:04,973 --> 01:15:07,892
Speaker 2: going on, this entire battle to keep your number plate safe.

1552
01:15:08,692 --> 01:15:12,692
Speaker 2: Your local community patrol provide anti tampus screws for number plates.

1553
01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:15,932
Speaker 2: Is this text we do this on behalf of police regards.

1554
01:15:16,053 --> 01:15:19,452
Speaker 2: Terry from trentam cpn Z volunteer.

1555
01:15:20,053 --> 01:15:22,053
Speaker 4: Good people, but who would have thought it was this

1556
01:15:22,893 --> 01:15:23,692
Speaker 4: crazy about.

1557
01:15:23,452 --> 01:15:27,293
Speaker 2: The It's everywhere. Yeah, there's people texting in just so

1558
01:15:27,452 --> 01:15:29,173
Speaker 2: many examples of having number plate stolen.

1559
01:15:30,173 --> 01:15:32,652
Speaker 4: Anthony. We've got about ninety seconds. How are you?

1560
01:15:33,372 --> 01:15:33,572
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1561
01:15:33,652 --> 01:15:36,852
Speaker 9: Good, Thanks guys, that'll be real quick. But yeah, I

1562
01:15:37,372 --> 01:15:39,812
Speaker 9: had an incident maybe two or three months ago. I've

1563
01:15:39,853 --> 01:15:43,892
Speaker 9: got a commercial truck or a small commercial truck, went

1564
01:15:43,973 --> 01:15:47,452
Speaker 9: for a warrant of fitness, failed on a minor, I

1565
01:15:47,732 --> 01:15:52,213
Speaker 9: really minor. Three days later I get a notice in

1566
01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:56,053
Speaker 9: the mail from Auckland Transport doing me for having a

1567
01:15:56,133 --> 01:16:00,452
Speaker 9: warren of fitness rather than the understanding get twenty one

1568
01:16:00,572 --> 01:16:02,973
Speaker 9: days to get it sorted. But they did me for

1569
01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:08,973
Speaker 9: six hundred bucks. This is resident residential Mount Eden, so

1570
01:16:09,452 --> 01:16:11,372
Speaker 9: they I tried to argue it, but they weren't. They

1571
01:16:11,412 --> 01:16:14,213
Speaker 9: wouldn't hear it. It goes back to your point before

1572
01:16:14,213 --> 01:16:17,412
Speaker 9: about staying away from Reggio's and warrants. You know, it's

1573
01:16:17,452 --> 01:16:20,093
Speaker 9: all about revenue gap gathering. It's by one of these

1574
01:16:20,173 --> 01:16:23,333
Speaker 9: fancy it goes around with all that, with all the

1575
01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:26,932
Speaker 9: equipment on it. And then last week I posted another

1576
01:16:27,013 --> 01:16:32,732
Speaker 9: one for my other, my other commercial vehicle for not

1577
01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:37,892
Speaker 9: having my registration and I got it. I got done

1578
01:16:37,933 --> 01:16:41,893
Speaker 9: on Dominion Road outside the post office while I was

1579
01:16:41,973 --> 01:16:45,772
Speaker 9: going in to get my registration. So that was two hundred.

1580
01:16:46,333 --> 01:16:48,572
Speaker 9: So six hundred and two hundred they've got off me,

1581
01:16:49,213 --> 01:16:52,333
Speaker 9: which has it's unbelievable. But I'd love to know where

1582
01:16:52,372 --> 01:16:56,333
Speaker 9: they're going. Where they're just targeting certain areas where they

1583
01:16:56,572 --> 01:16:58,412
Speaker 9: know that people will pay the fines. Are they doing

1584
01:16:58,492 --> 01:16:59,452
Speaker 9: this in South Auckland.

1585
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:00,293
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1586
01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:01,812
Speaker 9: A lot of money.

1587
01:17:02,053 --> 01:17:04,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of money, one hundred percent. I mean

1588
01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:06,973
Speaker 4: councils should stay away from the ridge's and warrants, not

1589
01:17:07,093 --> 01:17:07,853
Speaker 4: their jurisdiction.

1590
01:17:08,412 --> 01:17:11,852
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dirty, Look, so let's finish up this chat.

1591
01:17:11,973 --> 01:17:13,932
Speaker 2: It's been a good, good chat. But I think deploying

1592
01:17:13,973 --> 01:17:17,253
Speaker 2: these cars and texts against us removes that friendly cat

1593
01:17:17,372 --> 01:17:21,492
Speaker 2: and mouse that used to exist between citizens and their authorities,

1594
01:17:21,812 --> 01:17:26,372
Speaker 2: the unspoken rules of fear competition between us. If they

1595
01:17:26,452 --> 01:17:31,452
Speaker 2: go zero gray area and uncongested areas and strange times

1596
01:17:31,492 --> 01:17:33,732
Speaker 2: of day, then you can't help but feel that they're

1597
01:17:33,772 --> 01:17:38,133
Speaker 2: treating citizens as a resource to be farmed for cash.

1598
01:17:38,213 --> 01:17:40,172
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, if they're going to go nuclear,

1599
01:17:40,213 --> 01:17:42,092
Speaker 2: then maybe we should push back and ask some questions

1600
01:17:42,093 --> 01:17:43,933
Speaker 2: about do they have the right to charge us to

1601
01:17:44,013 --> 01:17:47,732
Speaker 2: park on our own roads and streets that we paid

1602
01:17:47,772 --> 01:17:49,732
Speaker 2: for our taxes and rates to start with?

1603
01:17:50,013 --> 01:17:53,333
Speaker 4: Nice said, Yeah, beautifully said, And what a great conversation.

1604
01:17:54,093 --> 01:17:56,452
Speaker 4: Thank you to everybody who called and text on that one.

1605
01:17:56,492 --> 01:17:59,532
Speaker 4: Coming up after three o'clock. One issue down for you,

1606
01:17:59,652 --> 01:18:02,412
Speaker 4: Matt Heath, Well maybe, but another issue popping up for

1607
01:18:02,452 --> 01:18:03,892
Speaker 4: you when it comes to open plan living.

1608
01:18:05,013 --> 01:18:08,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we need to live in these cavernous and

1609
01:18:09,772 --> 01:18:10,693
Speaker 2: house arrangements.

1610
01:18:11,013 --> 01:18:11,692
Speaker 4: That's coming up.

1611
01:18:14,532 --> 01:18:18,293
Speaker 1: You're on New Home for Insateful and Entertaining Talk. It's

1612
01:18:18,492 --> 01:18:22,173
Speaker 1: Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk.

1613
01:18:22,293 --> 01:18:25,412
Speaker 4: Sebby, Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the program.

1614
01:18:25,532 --> 01:18:27,572
Speaker 4: It is six past three. This is going to be

1615
01:18:27,612 --> 01:18:29,972
Speaker 4: a great discussion. It's a bit of a personal situation

1616
01:18:30,213 --> 01:18:32,253
Speaker 4: for you, matt You're about to start some redos.

1617
01:18:32,492 --> 01:18:35,612
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, potentially, Tyler. So I'm moving into a new

1618
01:18:35,652 --> 01:18:38,333
Speaker 2: house at that at the moment, and I was looking around.

1619
01:18:38,412 --> 01:18:39,852
Speaker 2: I was thinking what I want to do here, and

1620
01:18:39,933 --> 01:18:41,652
Speaker 2: I want to know, fix up the kitchen, fix up

1621
01:18:41,772 --> 01:18:45,452
Speaker 2: bathrooms and and just sort of you know, sort the

1622
01:18:45,492 --> 01:18:48,572
Speaker 2: house out, freshen up, spruce it up a bit. It's

1623
01:18:48,612 --> 01:18:52,852
Speaker 2: a bungalow and you know it's it's a solid place,

1624
01:18:52,973 --> 01:18:55,892
Speaker 2: but it's got sort of a few different little rooms

1625
01:18:55,973 --> 01:18:58,013
Speaker 2: here and there in places that you might not put

1626
01:18:58,053 --> 01:19:00,013
Speaker 2: them in this day and age, yep, people used to

1627
01:19:00,053 --> 01:19:02,093
Speaker 2: put things over in a corner that have a little

1628
01:19:02,133 --> 01:19:03,492
Speaker 2: room here whatever.

1629
01:19:03,732 --> 01:19:03,932
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1630
01:19:05,013 --> 01:19:07,213
Speaker 2: But a friend of mine was out having a look

1631
01:19:07,213 --> 01:19:09,012
Speaker 2: at it with me yesterday and he's great New Zealander.

1632
01:19:09,093 --> 01:19:11,852
Speaker 2: This friend of mine and fantastic guy. But we're looking

1633
01:19:11,853 --> 01:19:13,532
Speaker 2: around and we're talking about what was you doing? He goes,

1634
01:19:13,612 --> 01:19:15,932
Speaker 2: got to move that wall, Move that wall. They're got

1635
01:19:15,973 --> 01:19:17,572
Speaker 2: to move that back. You don't want to open that

1636
01:19:17,692 --> 01:19:20,053
Speaker 2: all up out on the deck. That's got to go,

1637
01:19:20,572 --> 01:19:22,372
Speaker 2: you know, you want to have much space there, yea.

1638
01:19:22,732 --> 01:19:26,612
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about it, and this this stressed

1639
01:19:26,612 --> 01:19:28,293
Speaker 2: me out a little bit actually, because I had a plan.

1640
01:19:28,772 --> 01:19:30,933
Speaker 2: I was like, we'll just fix that bathroom, fix the

1641
01:19:31,013 --> 01:19:34,093
Speaker 2: kitchen up, you know, make it nice. But now I'm thinking,

1642
01:19:34,173 --> 01:19:36,452
Speaker 2: do I have to gut the entire middle of my house?

1643
01:19:36,532 --> 01:19:38,732
Speaker 2: Because that's what people do these days. Yeah, you know,

1644
01:19:38,853 --> 01:19:41,772
Speaker 2: anytime there's a reno, it's about gutting all the all

1645
01:19:41,812 --> 01:19:44,812
Speaker 2: the back of it, leading out into the into the

1646
01:19:44,893 --> 01:19:47,772
Speaker 2: back deck indoor outdoor flow. But why do we need

1647
01:19:47,853 --> 01:19:49,412
Speaker 2: to gut the middle of our houses out and make

1648
01:19:49,452 --> 01:19:53,932
Speaker 2: these big, cavenous kitchen lounge areas with all this outdoor flow.

1649
01:19:54,532 --> 01:19:56,572
Speaker 2: Can't we just I don't know. I was thinking, can

1650
01:19:56,612 --> 01:19:59,652
Speaker 2: we bring back the little areas, the small rooms, you know,

1651
01:20:00,452 --> 01:20:02,492
Speaker 2: the more zones the better. What's wrong with what's wrong

1652
01:20:02,532 --> 01:20:04,612
Speaker 2: with living in a little bit of a maze? What's

1653
01:20:04,652 --> 01:20:07,333
Speaker 2: wrong with the hobbit hole, the little holes. Why do

1654
01:20:07,412 --> 01:20:08,892
Speaker 2: we all need to live in foo food courts?

1655
01:20:09,933 --> 01:20:10,093
Speaker 11: You know?

1656
01:20:10,173 --> 01:20:10,333
Speaker 18: Why?

1657
01:20:10,452 --> 01:20:13,052
Speaker 2: Is that just the way everyone goes Now? I was thinking,

1658
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:15,133
Speaker 2: maybe I want a house with lots of little nooks

1659
01:20:15,173 --> 01:20:19,173
Speaker 2: and crannies, a little quirky, little weird and efficient bits.

1660
01:20:19,732 --> 01:20:21,933
Speaker 4: It's such a good question. I'm glad your questioning of this,

1661
01:20:22,133 --> 01:20:25,372
Speaker 4: because I've never thought about I mean, it's just a key.

1662
01:20:25,412 --> 01:20:27,652
Speaker 4: We think that you love the open plant that these

1663
01:20:27,812 --> 01:20:30,213
Speaker 4: days apparently you should have the lounge in the kitchen

1664
01:20:30,412 --> 01:20:33,013
Speaker 4: opened up, give a bit of space, give it some

1665
01:20:33,093 --> 01:20:36,133
Speaker 4: breathing room. And I've always just accepted it that that's

1666
01:20:36,173 --> 01:20:38,412
Speaker 4: the right thing to do for some reason. But you're

1667
01:20:38,492 --> 01:20:41,012
Speaker 4: so right. What happened to even a little private little

1668
01:20:41,093 --> 01:20:42,093
Speaker 4: room that you could jump into?

1669
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:44,452
Speaker 2: We get these fashions and then there's no way to

1670
01:20:44,532 --> 01:20:46,013
Speaker 2: do it, And then some looking at my house going

1671
01:20:46,093 --> 01:20:47,933
Speaker 2: have I really renovated it if I haven't turned it

1672
01:20:48,013 --> 01:20:51,293
Speaker 2: into a massive cabinous area where the lounge in the

1673
01:20:52,133 --> 01:20:55,253
Speaker 2: dining room in the kitchen all merge into one without

1674
01:20:55,293 --> 01:20:59,053
Speaker 2: any weird rooms off the side. But having zones in

1675
01:20:59,133 --> 01:21:00,973
Speaker 2: your house house is quite of cool. If you've got

1676
01:21:01,013 --> 01:21:02,732
Speaker 2: like one of your kids sleeping in a room that's

1677
01:21:02,772 --> 01:21:06,772
Speaker 2: over one by a bathroom that's near a laun tree

1678
01:21:06,853 --> 01:21:09,333
Speaker 2: that's behind a wall, and you could clear that all out,

1679
01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:11,812
Speaker 2: but then your kids kind of just their room just

1680
01:21:11,893 --> 01:21:13,372
Speaker 2: opens up onto the main area.

1681
01:21:13,492 --> 01:21:15,692
Speaker 4: There's nowhere to escape. Yeah, it's all open.

1682
01:21:15,933 --> 01:21:17,812
Speaker 2: Yeah. This text has said this is about women not

1683
01:21:17,893 --> 01:21:20,652
Speaker 2: being locked away in the kitchen cooking. It's about involving

1684
01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:24,492
Speaker 2: them in the family, not servants hidden away. So I

1685
01:21:24,572 --> 01:21:27,692
Speaker 2: guess at one point the kitchens were small and in

1686
01:21:27,772 --> 01:21:29,892
Speaker 2: a different part of the house and it wasn't very

1687
01:21:29,933 --> 01:21:32,572
Speaker 2: social when you were cooking, right, Yeah, that was part

1688
01:21:32,612 --> 01:21:34,492
Speaker 2: of the reason that people opened it all up. And

1689
01:21:34,572 --> 01:21:38,133
Speaker 2: I know the French think it's disgusting cooking in an

1690
01:21:38,213 --> 01:21:41,492
Speaker 2: open area like we do here. They would prefer you

1691
01:21:41,532 --> 01:21:44,253
Speaker 2: had an open toilet and someone just sat in the

1692
01:21:44,333 --> 01:21:47,372
Speaker 2: lounge on the toilet then cooking there. It's just a

1693
01:21:47,412 --> 01:21:50,133
Speaker 2: different way they look at it. And I can kind

1694
01:21:50,173 --> 01:21:52,293
Speaker 2: of get that that it's fun for the cooking and

1695
01:21:52,492 --> 01:21:55,412
Speaker 2: entertaining to be all in the same place. But this

1696
01:21:55,612 --> 01:22:01,852
Speaker 2: person says, I've never liked open plan living. It's terrible

1697
01:22:01,893 --> 01:22:03,372
Speaker 2: if you're trying to watch a show and all you

1698
01:22:03,452 --> 01:22:06,133
Speaker 2: hear is pots and pans banging around. Just have a

1699
01:22:06,173 --> 01:22:08,452
Speaker 2: bigger kitchen with a dining room attached, and some are

1700
01:22:08,492 --> 01:22:10,892
Speaker 2: stills in it for when you want company while cooking,

1701
01:22:10,933 --> 01:22:12,572
Speaker 2: and add a small TV on the kitchen wall.

1702
01:22:12,772 --> 01:22:15,732
Speaker 4: Exactly. I mean, we had an open planned situation down

1703
01:22:15,772 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 4: in christ Jute, and I just accepted it for what

1704
01:22:17,732 --> 01:22:19,532
Speaker 4: it was. But I got quite annoyed if I was

1705
01:22:19,572 --> 01:22:21,852
Speaker 4: doing the cooking and there was all this ruckus going

1706
01:22:21,893 --> 01:22:23,333
Speaker 4: on in the living room. But now you've seen the

1707
01:22:23,372 --> 01:22:26,372
Speaker 4: new place we've just moved into. There's a separate lounge. Ah,

1708
01:22:26,612 --> 01:22:27,412
Speaker 4: it's a dream.

1709
01:22:27,652 --> 01:22:30,412
Speaker 2: Then you're running knocks and crannies up the wazoo with

1710
01:22:30,452 --> 01:22:32,412
Speaker 2: funny little rooms everywhere, and you love it.

1711
01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:34,093
Speaker 4: I'm finding a new cubby hole every day.

1712
01:22:34,173 --> 01:22:37,692
Speaker 2: It's so good. Andrea says it's all about light, and

1713
01:22:37,772 --> 01:22:40,372
Speaker 2: she also makes the point about woman wanting to be

1714
01:22:40,452 --> 01:22:42,412
Speaker 2: part of the environment. I would push back on that

1715
01:22:42,492 --> 01:22:46,893
Speaker 2: a little bit, Andrea, because I every single dude I

1716
01:22:47,013 --> 01:22:47,932
Speaker 2: know does a lot of cooking.

1717
01:22:48,053 --> 01:22:48,213
Speaker 15: Yep.

1718
01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:51,173
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't know a single friend of

1719
01:22:51,253 --> 01:22:57,012
Speaker 2: mine who's running a marital situation where they're just locking

1720
01:22:57,093 --> 01:22:58,693
Speaker 2: their partner up cooking.

1721
01:22:58,492 --> 01:23:01,452
Speaker 4: For them Yeah, times have change drastically. It just doesn't happen.

1722
01:23:01,492 --> 01:23:03,572
Speaker 2: It's fifty to fifty and a lot of relationships that

1723
01:23:03,612 --> 01:23:06,293
Speaker 2: I know the men are doing more cooking than the woman, yeap,

1724
01:23:06,412 --> 01:23:09,692
Speaker 2: but also my partner she's she was saying she would

1725
01:23:09,812 --> 01:23:12,412
Speaker 2: like to just be doing a baking in a sort

1726
01:23:12,452 --> 01:23:15,173
Speaker 2: of sealed off area without having to be punished.

1727
01:23:14,853 --> 01:23:17,572
Speaker 4: By my sport in my terrible chat. Yeah exactly, because

1728
01:23:17,572 --> 01:23:18,772
Speaker 4: if she's.

1729
01:23:18,333 --> 01:23:20,772
Speaker 2: In the same area with me cooking, then I'm just

1730
01:23:20,812 --> 01:23:22,412
Speaker 2: going to be putting my head around the corner, like

1731
01:23:22,812 --> 01:23:26,333
Speaker 2: talking about baseball, you know, or just you know, ranting

1732
01:23:26,333 --> 01:23:27,652
Speaker 2: about something I've seen on YouTube.

1733
01:23:27,732 --> 01:23:30,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tracy needs a break. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1734
01:23:30,532 --> 01:23:32,612
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. So have we taken

1735
01:23:32,732 --> 01:23:35,812
Speaker 4: open plan living too far? Are our homes now so

1736
01:23:36,013 --> 01:23:37,732
Speaker 4: open that there's just nowhere to escape?

1737
01:23:38,293 --> 01:23:41,372
Speaker 2: To get your thoughts on this one. The tyranny of

1738
01:23:41,532 --> 01:23:42,732
Speaker 2: open plan living.

1739
01:23:43,893 --> 01:23:46,252
Speaker 4: Is the text number. It's twelve past three US talks'd

1740
01:23:46,333 --> 01:23:49,053
Speaker 4: be very good afternoons. You So have Kiwi Holmes lost

1741
01:23:49,093 --> 01:23:51,492
Speaker 4: their privacy in the name of this modern style open

1742
01:23:51,612 --> 01:23:54,133
Speaker 4: plan living? And do we need to bring wolves back?

1743
01:23:54,293 --> 01:23:54,412
Speaker 15: Wait?

1744
01:23:54,412 --> 01:23:56,492
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty ten eighty. Bring Back the Maze,

1745
01:23:56,532 --> 01:23:58,973
Speaker 4: Bring Meet the Maze, Bring back back in.

1746
01:24:01,492 --> 01:24:04,293
Speaker 2: Greg. Welcome to the show, guys.

1747
01:24:05,812 --> 01:24:07,333
Speaker 22: I'm handing me in and I've worked on a lot

1748
01:24:07,372 --> 01:24:11,133
Speaker 22: of houses, but doing our own renovation, we hit to

1749
01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:13,532
Speaker 22: do something because the kitchen was tiny. But everyone was

1750
01:24:13,532 --> 01:24:15,732
Speaker 22: telling us knock out that wall or knock out that wall,

1751
01:24:16,253 --> 01:24:19,172
Speaker 22: but we said no, and we we keeped the lounge.

1752
01:24:19,213 --> 01:24:21,093
Speaker 22: We actually made the lound smaller because I stole some

1753
01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:24,012
Speaker 22: for an non sleep on the bedroom on the other side.

1754
01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:26,812
Speaker 22: But we're so glad that we didn't just open it

1755
01:24:26,933 --> 01:24:30,372
Speaker 22: up because we still have a kitchen and a dining

1756
01:24:30,412 --> 01:24:32,692
Speaker 22: room attached with the breakfast bar in between that we

1757
01:24:32,973 --> 01:24:35,213
Speaker 22: you know, I can, by the way, I do a

1758
01:24:35,293 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 22: lot of the cooking too, and we can chat. You know,

1759
01:24:38,612 --> 01:24:40,893
Speaker 22: we can chat if we need to. But also I

1760
01:24:40,973 --> 01:24:43,412
Speaker 22: can take kids into the other room and everyone can

1761
01:24:43,452 --> 01:24:46,053
Speaker 22: have a little bit of private seat. And yeah, these

1762
01:24:46,093 --> 01:24:48,133
Speaker 22: open fans places.

1763
01:24:48,293 --> 01:24:48,732
Speaker 23: I don't know.

1764
01:24:48,893 --> 01:24:51,572
Speaker 22: I don't know if it does suit me on one

1765
01:24:51,652 --> 01:24:55,013
Speaker 22: thing I did with my appearents are looking at downsize

1766
01:24:55,053 --> 01:24:56,612
Speaker 22: and we've looked at a few homes up me and

1767
01:24:56,652 --> 01:24:59,293
Speaker 22: there was one really cool house that was completely open

1768
01:24:59,372 --> 01:25:02,572
Speaker 22: plan but you could divide it up with these huge

1769
01:25:02,893 --> 01:25:03,612
Speaker 22: bipold doors.

1770
01:25:04,812 --> 01:25:07,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good, yeah, good.

1771
01:25:07,732 --> 01:25:10,053
Speaker 22: So you could hear entertaining with the wall open and

1772
01:25:10,133 --> 01:25:11,852
Speaker 22: it was one giant room, or you could cut it

1773
01:25:11,933 --> 01:25:14,652
Speaker 22: into three with these giant doors.

1774
01:25:15,612 --> 01:25:18,173
Speaker 2: And see that's that's good because because you're kind of

1775
01:25:18,293 --> 01:25:21,053
Speaker 2: the full open plan, you've only got one choice of

1776
01:25:21,133 --> 01:25:24,452
Speaker 2: how it is. That's great if you are entertaining, but

1777
01:25:24,612 --> 01:25:26,692
Speaker 2: then you know when you when you're actually living in

1778
01:25:26,732 --> 01:25:29,372
Speaker 2: a house and someone's wanting to watch sport in one

1779
01:25:29,492 --> 01:25:31,173
Speaker 2: room and someone else is trying to cook and they're

1780
01:25:31,173 --> 01:25:35,253
Speaker 2: making some kind of horrifically stinky food, then you know,

1781
01:25:35,853 --> 01:25:37,532
Speaker 2: sometimes you want to you want to bat in the hatches.

1782
01:25:38,732 --> 01:25:40,452
Speaker 22: Yeah, and it's also in the woods. You can shut

1783
01:25:40,492 --> 01:25:42,893
Speaker 22: it down. Got such cheap of the heat, you know,

1784
01:25:43,732 --> 01:25:46,333
Speaker 22: so yeah, seat pumps and stuff. That's sort of quite

1785
01:25:47,013 --> 01:25:49,372
Speaker 22: yeah yeah for a room.

1786
01:25:49,492 --> 01:25:52,852
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, just explain to me the old by

1787
01:25:52,933 --> 01:25:55,492
Speaker 4: folding doors again. So it's effectively you set it up

1788
01:25:55,532 --> 01:25:58,492
Speaker 4: that it is a wall almost that you can fold

1789
01:25:59,293 --> 01:25:59,852
Speaker 4: fold back.

1790
01:26:00,053 --> 01:26:03,253
Speaker 22: And yeah, it was a giant ol giant l and

1791
01:26:03,333 --> 01:26:07,492
Speaker 22: the head by folding doors that intersected into the middle

1792
01:26:07,612 --> 01:26:10,133
Speaker 22: of like the the point of the LC you can

1793
01:26:10,253 --> 01:26:14,012
Speaker 22: shut it down into three rooms lounge.

1794
01:26:14,173 --> 01:26:14,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeap.

1795
01:26:15,572 --> 01:26:19,293
Speaker 22: When they went across the last panel, you would call

1796
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:20,572
Speaker 22: it acted as a door.

1797
01:26:22,013 --> 01:26:24,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, that does make sense. I've seen

1798
01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:27,253
Speaker 4: them now. It's almost like kind of sliding barn doors

1799
01:26:27,253 --> 01:26:28,772
Speaker 4: almost right, that comes right to the middle.

1800
01:26:28,933 --> 01:26:29,133
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1801
01:26:29,412 --> 01:26:32,013
Speaker 22: Yeah, they concerting are out like a five five doors,

1802
01:26:32,093 --> 01:26:34,412
Speaker 22: only got twofold. He's had about five or six. I

1803
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:36,333
Speaker 22: can't remember exactly because it quite a big you know,

1804
01:26:36,452 --> 01:26:38,253
Speaker 22: the five bits of spend that they're going right across.

1805
01:26:38,333 --> 01:26:41,412
Speaker 2: So you have a very cold do you go that's

1806
01:26:41,412 --> 01:26:43,692
Speaker 2: the best of both worlds. You've got the option. Yeah,

1807
01:26:44,692 --> 01:26:47,572
Speaker 2: the sticks says, don't do it, Matt. We built a big,

1808
01:26:47,572 --> 01:26:50,093
Speaker 2: beautiful open plan home eleven years ago, and now we're

1809
01:26:50,133 --> 01:26:53,732
Speaker 2: having a giant barn door style put in there so

1810
01:26:53,893 --> 01:26:55,213
Speaker 2: we can escape from the kids.

1811
01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,932
Speaker 4: That is in Yeah, great text. Keep those calls coming

1812
01:26:57,973 --> 01:27:00,372
Speaker 4: through A nine oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1813
01:27:00,412 --> 01:27:02,532
Speaker 4: The text numbers nine two nine too. If you've done

1814
01:27:02,612 --> 01:27:06,053
Speaker 4: Rehino's did you go open plan and instantly regret it

1815
01:27:06,133 --> 01:27:07,092
Speaker 4: when there's no escape?

1816
01:27:07,253 --> 01:27:09,093
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it time to go back to the knock

1817
01:27:09,173 --> 01:27:12,772
Speaker 2: and crannies? Bring back, bring back the maze, bringa the maze,

1818
01:27:12,812 --> 01:27:15,293
Speaker 2: the weird little rooms, the inefficient setup.

1819
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:17,093
Speaker 4: Come on through. It is eighteen past three.

1820
01:27:20,973 --> 01:27:24,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1821
01:27:24,412 --> 01:27:26,293
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on used talk ZB.

1822
01:27:26,692 --> 01:27:28,732
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about our

1823
01:27:28,812 --> 01:27:31,652
Speaker 4: fascination with open plan living in New Zealand. Is it

1824
01:27:31,812 --> 01:27:35,772
Speaker 4: really that great? It's something you're having to consider at

1825
01:27:35,772 --> 01:27:37,213
Speaker 4: the moment. Matt, Yeah, that's right.

1826
01:27:37,973 --> 01:27:40,253
Speaker 2: Moving to a new house. And I was around there

1827
01:27:40,372 --> 01:27:43,173
Speaker 2: yesterday with a good buddy of mine, fantastic human being,

1828
01:27:44,053 --> 01:27:46,893
Speaker 2: but he's he's he had some ideas and he just

1829
01:27:47,572 --> 01:27:52,572
Speaker 2: suggested just removing all the walls, the balls, no open

1830
01:27:52,612 --> 01:27:54,732
Speaker 2: plan living. And then I was like, Oh, that wasn't

1831
01:27:54,772 --> 01:27:57,452
Speaker 2: what I was thinking. I was thinking about just having

1832
01:27:57,532 --> 01:28:01,213
Speaker 2: a weird room off here, a weird bathroom there. You

1833
01:28:01,293 --> 01:28:03,572
Speaker 2: had it all planned, a couple of hallways, one of

1834
01:28:03,612 --> 01:28:09,852
Speaker 2: them going nowhere. Someone says here whereas it sounds to

1835
01:28:09,973 --> 01:28:11,772
Speaker 2: me like you're looking for an excuse to spend as

1836
01:28:11,812 --> 01:28:14,572
Speaker 2: little as possible in your renovation. Gary, there could be

1837
01:28:14,612 --> 01:28:17,333
Speaker 2: a bit of that there. There could be Gary, you

1838
01:28:17,452 --> 01:28:19,053
Speaker 2: might have seen through the matrix there.

1839
01:28:19,812 --> 01:28:22,612
Speaker 4: That sounds like a budget blowout though, Steve, welcome to

1840
01:28:22,652 --> 01:28:22,932
Speaker 4: the show.

1841
01:28:24,492 --> 01:28:25,333
Speaker 6: Hey you guys are you.

1842
01:28:27,532 --> 01:28:27,772
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1843
01:28:28,093 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's just reminded me of a house I lived

1844
01:28:30,133 --> 01:28:33,372
Speaker 24: a years ago. There was a free storied house and

1845
01:28:33,452 --> 01:28:36,093
Speaker 24: it must have had three different renovations over us by

1846
01:28:36,973 --> 01:28:40,053
Speaker 24: and generated a lot of cooks and credit was the

1847
01:28:40,133 --> 01:28:44,532
Speaker 24: weird house. Secret passive ways but all sorts of as

1848
01:28:44,612 --> 01:28:47,293
Speaker 24: much deerwell. It had to scrunch over the b to

1849
01:28:47,293 --> 01:28:50,492
Speaker 24: get through, but it was fully coped with a cape

1850
01:28:50,532 --> 01:28:52,732
Speaker 24: rail that was propulated cheap bit off the ground, and

1851
01:28:53,053 --> 01:28:55,892
Speaker 24: it was really cool. It was really characteristic. But I'm

1852
01:28:55,933 --> 01:28:58,372
Speaker 24: over friends, lovely. I would have assumed they would have

1853
01:28:58,572 --> 01:28:59,812
Speaker 24: admitted a judge deck.

1854
01:28:59,772 --> 01:29:03,173
Speaker 14: With what was that?

1855
01:29:03,253 --> 01:29:05,173
Speaker 2: What was that last thing? Sorry, Steve, you've got got

1856
01:29:05,213 --> 01:29:06,772
Speaker 2: we got Have you got a window open in your

1857
01:29:06,812 --> 01:29:07,412
Speaker 2: car or something?

1858
01:29:08,692 --> 01:29:09,293
Speaker 3: Where I am.

1859
01:29:11,732 --> 01:29:16,452
Speaker 24: Right, I'm hopefully for a jump deck and boil pointly

1860
01:29:16,532 --> 01:29:18,372
Speaker 24: here for all the open plans of your house is

1861
01:29:18,412 --> 01:29:20,692
Speaker 24: out there and every time anyone wants a.

1862
01:29:20,692 --> 01:29:28,052
Speaker 4: Coffee, Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, the old squeaky

1863
01:29:28,173 --> 01:29:30,012
Speaker 4: jug and you're right, I mean just that the pots

1864
01:29:30,013 --> 01:29:32,452
Speaker 4: and pans clanging, and there might be a couple of

1865
01:29:32,572 --> 01:29:33,732
Speaker 4: you know, bits of yelling going.

1866
01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:36,572
Speaker 2: On with the stinky, stinky smell of something, and you know,

1867
01:29:36,692 --> 01:29:39,013
Speaker 2: sometimes there's some kind of spice cooking. I don't know,

1868
01:29:39,293 --> 01:29:42,333
Speaker 2: there's accommodation of spices that can be cooked, and it

1869
01:29:42,412 --> 01:29:45,612
Speaker 2: basically turns into mustard gas and no one in the

1870
01:29:45,652 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 2: house can breathe.

1871
01:29:46,572 --> 01:29:48,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1872
01:29:48,452 --> 01:29:49,812
Speaker 2: You want to be able to pull at least pull

1873
01:29:49,853 --> 01:29:51,852
Speaker 2: the blast doors down for certain meals.

1874
01:29:52,812 --> 01:29:54,532
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a able

1875
01:29:54,572 --> 01:29:57,173
Speaker 4: to call if you've gone open plan? Do you regret it?

1876
01:29:57,293 --> 01:29:59,333
Speaker 4: It is such a keyy thing saying just knock the

1877
01:29:59,372 --> 01:30:03,372
Speaker 4: wall down, Mark, welcome to the showy, how're you going?

1878
01:30:04,293 --> 01:30:05,293
Speaker 4: Very good? What do you reckon?

1879
01:30:06,652 --> 01:30:08,372
Speaker 11: No, don't do it. I think I'm with man. I

1880
01:30:08,372 --> 01:30:10,253
Speaker 11: think he's got a really good point. And my point

1881
01:30:10,452 --> 01:30:13,133
Speaker 11: is that, like if you're a couple or something like that,

1882
01:30:13,333 --> 01:30:15,452
Speaker 11: and you're in a marriage, the whole house is the

1883
01:30:15,492 --> 01:30:18,532
Speaker 11: domain of the woman or the white the kitchen, the

1884
01:30:18,692 --> 01:30:22,772
Speaker 11: dining room, the lounge, everything, and like all the art work,

1885
01:30:22,812 --> 01:30:25,973
Speaker 11: the whole nine yards, you know, and so at some

1886
01:30:26,133 --> 01:30:28,652
Speaker 11: stage you need some peace and clients. So the other

1887
01:30:28,692 --> 01:30:30,572
Speaker 11: thing is, I'm a builder, as well. And if you

1888
01:30:30,612 --> 01:30:33,293
Speaker 11: see to start knocking out walls, what's you know load bearing?

1889
01:30:33,412 --> 01:30:36,492
Speaker 11: What it starts to compound with west anything can be done.

1890
01:30:36,572 --> 01:30:38,572
Speaker 11: It's a massive expense, so sometimes you've got to take

1891
01:30:38,612 --> 01:30:39,812
Speaker 11: a practical approach as well.

1892
01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 2: Mark, can you explain to me as a builder, why

1893
01:30:42,293 --> 01:30:44,293
Speaker 2: when you go to do a renovation of a house,

1894
01:30:44,372 --> 01:30:46,892
Speaker 2: every part of it seems so much more expensive than,

1895
01:30:47,213 --> 01:30:49,612
Speaker 2: proportionately speaking, building a whole new house.

1896
01:30:50,772 --> 01:30:53,412
Speaker 11: Absolutely one hundred percent, because I'm just doing one of

1897
01:30:53,452 --> 01:30:56,092
Speaker 11: the line stuck in traffic in between jobs at the moment.

1898
01:30:56,213 --> 01:30:59,612
Speaker 11: But it's because you've sort of got to make good

1899
01:30:59,652 --> 01:31:02,372
Speaker 11: and nothing's plum level or square, so you're fitting joinery

1900
01:31:02,372 --> 01:31:05,093
Speaker 11: into something. Yeah, right, I start one job I just.

1901
01:31:05,452 --> 01:31:07,012
Speaker 3: Fit at the door the other day is ever.

1902
01:31:06,973 --> 01:31:10,173
Speaker 11: So slightly out of plumb. It's adjacent to another door,

1903
01:31:10,293 --> 01:31:14,492
Speaker 11: so the exact height to match the architravees, so they've

1904
01:31:14,532 --> 01:31:16,452
Speaker 11: got to be scribed down so they don't look skinny

1905
01:31:16,452 --> 01:31:19,173
Speaker 11: at the top and wider. It's so teaching, it's a

1906
01:31:19,213 --> 01:31:21,893
Speaker 11: different art form. So yeah, it's that's why it's so

1907
01:31:22,053 --> 01:31:25,412
Speaker 11: much harder doing renovations. And the other thing as well,

1908
01:31:25,412 --> 01:31:28,852
Speaker 11: they usually charge up jobs simply because you can't really

1909
01:31:28,933 --> 01:31:31,132
Speaker 11: quote because you don't know what really you're going to find.

1910
01:31:32,293 --> 01:31:34,173
Speaker 2: As soon as as soon as you open up, you

1911
01:31:34,213 --> 01:31:37,612
Speaker 2: suddenly find out the foundations are blowing, that there's there's

1912
01:31:38,053 --> 01:31:41,212
Speaker 2: there's something horrific living in the walls, you know, squirrels,

1913
01:31:41,293 --> 01:31:42,333
Speaker 2: possums living in the walls.

1914
01:31:42,492 --> 01:31:44,253
Speaker 4: Sometimes out of side, out of mind is better.

1915
01:31:45,812 --> 01:31:48,692
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, sometimes it is. But then you know you've

1916
01:31:48,732 --> 01:31:50,532
Speaker 11: sort of got to fix things on the fly because

1917
01:31:50,532 --> 01:31:52,333
Speaker 11: there's no point and we're doing half a job with

1918
01:31:52,412 --> 01:31:54,412
Speaker 11: those things sometimes. And that's why it does sort of

1919
01:31:54,452 --> 01:31:56,253
Speaker 11: start to stack up because you start one job and

1920
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:58,852
Speaker 11: end up doing it, doesn't just to repeat the most

1921
01:31:58,893 --> 01:32:01,133
Speaker 11: basic of jobs that you're doing.

1922
01:32:01,333 --> 01:32:03,492
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, thank you for your call.

1923
01:32:03,572 --> 01:32:03,732
Speaker 3: Mark.

1924
01:32:03,772 --> 01:32:07,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that that, you know, you know Mark

1925
01:32:07,133 --> 01:32:10,253
Speaker 2: saying it turns all into one side of the relationships

1926
01:32:10,372 --> 01:32:12,932
Speaker 2: domain or the other. Yeah. But as I was saying before,

1927
01:32:13,452 --> 01:32:16,213
Speaker 2: my partner's like, I would like to be separated from

1928
01:32:16,253 --> 01:32:19,133
Speaker 2: you as much as possible. Yeah, exactly, because you know,

1929
01:32:19,772 --> 01:32:21,732
Speaker 2: I'll sit there yelling at sport all the time when

1930
01:32:21,933 --> 01:32:24,452
Speaker 2: someone's trying to have a nice time, you know, doing

1931
01:32:24,532 --> 01:32:25,133
Speaker 2: some baking in.

1932
01:32:25,173 --> 01:32:26,492
Speaker 4: The kitchen piece and quiet.

1933
01:32:26,572 --> 01:32:30,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're just having like some rageaball jumping up

1934
01:32:30,173 --> 01:32:31,812
Speaker 2: and down and screaming TV.

1935
01:32:32,133 --> 01:32:34,333
Speaker 4: I can see that. Oh, eighte hundred and eighty ten

1936
01:32:34,372 --> 01:32:36,572
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call if you've done some Rehino's.

1937
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:38,732
Speaker 4: Did you go open plan and did it work out

1938
01:32:38,772 --> 01:32:40,293
Speaker 4: for you? Or have we just got a bit crazy

1939
01:32:40,333 --> 01:32:43,372
Speaker 4: about this idea of open plan living indoor outdoor flow.

1940
01:32:43,692 --> 01:32:46,253
Speaker 2: The six says death keep a random TV lounge separate

1941
01:32:46,812 --> 01:32:48,572
Speaker 2: ours is at the other end of the house from

1942
01:32:48,612 --> 01:32:52,293
Speaker 2: the kitchen dining area. We love it. Yeah, yeah, if

1943
01:32:53,013 --> 01:32:54,293
Speaker 2: that's right. You know you want to be able to

1944
01:32:54,452 --> 01:32:56,253
Speaker 2: and how far do you have to this idea that

1945
01:32:56,333 --> 01:32:59,652
Speaker 2: you can't walk anywhere or open doors or closed doors,

1946
01:32:59,772 --> 01:33:01,933
Speaker 2: like everything has to be so convenient to what you

1947
01:33:01,933 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 2: won't use it. You need to just be able to

1948
01:33:03,492 --> 01:33:05,932
Speaker 2: walk over there, sit there. Everything has to be opening.

1949
01:33:06,213 --> 01:33:09,052
Speaker 2: What's wrong with opening and closing a few doors, walking

1950
01:33:09,093 --> 01:33:11,933
Speaker 2: down a weird hallway to nowhere.

1951
01:33:12,093 --> 01:33:15,852
Speaker 4: Jumping into we we we cubby hole, oh one hundred

1952
01:33:15,853 --> 01:33:16,933
Speaker 4: and eighty some.

1953
01:33:17,133 --> 01:33:20,933
Speaker 2: Kind of hexagon shaped bathroom at the end of a

1954
01:33:21,133 --> 01:33:21,772
Speaker 2: curved hall.

1955
01:33:21,933 --> 01:33:24,972
Speaker 4: Now you're talking right, We've got the headlines Worth Raylen

1956
01:33:25,053 --> 01:33:27,253
Speaker 4: coming up there we're taking more of your CALLSZ eighte

1957
01:33:27,293 --> 01:33:31,253
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty open plan. Is it something

1958
01:33:31,333 --> 01:33:32,612
Speaker 4: you tried and all went horribly wrong?

1959
01:33:32,652 --> 01:33:34,692
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a getthold of Trump. Yeah, he's opening up

1960
01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:37,293
Speaker 2: the White House to a bore room. You know, I

1961
01:33:37,372 --> 01:33:39,293
Speaker 2: might actually give old Trump here ring and see what

1962
01:33:39,412 --> 01:33:41,372
Speaker 2: he thinks whether I could take anything on from what

1963
01:33:41,452 --> 01:33:43,173
Speaker 2: he's doing in the you know, the west wing.

1964
01:33:43,293 --> 01:33:45,732
Speaker 4: It's a lot of open space. Twenty six past three.

1965
01:33:47,853 --> 01:33:49,812
Speaker 1: Youth Talk said. The headlines with.

1966
01:33:49,893 --> 01:33:53,012
Speaker 12: Blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1967
01:33:53,652 --> 01:33:57,412
Speaker 12: Labor says it'll kick out anyone discovered to have leaked

1968
01:33:57,452 --> 01:34:01,612
Speaker 12: its capital gains tax policy early over the weekend. It's

1969
01:34:01,692 --> 01:34:05,293
Speaker 12: proposing a twenty eight percent capital gains tax on residential

1970
01:34:05,532 --> 01:34:10,372
Speaker 12: and commercial property, but not the family home, farms, inheritances

1971
01:34:10,772 --> 01:34:14,093
Speaker 12: or shares. The revenue would go into health, including three

1972
01:34:14,213 --> 01:34:18,213
Speaker 12: annual free GP visits. The Prime Minister has put pen

1973
01:34:18,253 --> 01:34:22,012
Speaker 12: to paper on an agreement to boost halal exports with Malaysia.

1974
01:34:23,053 --> 01:34:26,093
Speaker 12: Police believe there are serious injuries after a crash that's

1975
01:34:26,133 --> 01:34:29,532
Speaker 12: closed a section of State Highway to at Mangatatfari and

1976
01:34:29,692 --> 01:34:33,532
Speaker 12: County's Monuco emergency services were called to the intersection with

1977
01:34:33,652 --> 01:34:38,013
Speaker 12: Pinnacle Hill Road just after two thirty. More signs of

1978
01:34:38,093 --> 01:34:42,133
Speaker 12: a slight employment turnaround with rising job numbers and a

1979
01:34:42,333 --> 01:34:45,412
Speaker 12: zero point three percent rise and filled jobs last month.

1980
01:34:45,812 --> 01:34:48,612
Speaker 12: That is well down on a year ago, but growth

1981
01:34:48,732 --> 01:34:50,692
Speaker 12: is highest in healthcare and education.

1982
01:34:51,812 --> 01:34:52,572
Speaker 2: Pickle ball?

1983
01:34:52,933 --> 01:34:56,372
Speaker 12: What is this billion dollar sport doubling in size every

1984
01:34:56,532 --> 01:34:59,132
Speaker 12: year in New Zealand? You can read more at Enzet

1985
01:34:59,173 --> 01:35:02,092
Speaker 12: Herald Premium. Back now to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

1986
01:35:02,253 --> 01:35:04,492
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Ray Lean. So from the kitchen

1987
01:35:04,572 --> 01:35:07,852
Speaker 4: smiles to the echoing noises, open plan living, all that,

1988
01:35:07,933 --> 01:35:09,892
Speaker 4: it's craw to be lovely your thoughts.

1989
01:35:10,053 --> 01:35:11,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just discussing why do we need to get

1990
01:35:11,893 --> 01:35:13,972
Speaker 2: the middle of our houses and make these big, cavernous

1991
01:35:14,093 --> 01:35:20,132
Speaker 2: kitchen lounge areas with a you know, outdoor work outdoor

1992
01:35:20,532 --> 01:35:23,932
Speaker 2: walking flow? What do you call it flow?

1993
01:35:24,652 --> 01:35:24,692
Speaker 1: Do?

1994
01:35:24,812 --> 01:35:24,852
Speaker 14: It?

1995
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:27,612
Speaker 2: Is it time to like flip the script and bring

1996
01:35:27,692 --> 01:35:31,052
Speaker 2: back the little areas, the small rooms, you know, the maze,

1997
01:35:31,532 --> 01:35:33,932
Speaker 2: the hobbit hole. Why do we all need to live

1998
01:35:34,173 --> 01:35:35,812
Speaker 2: in food courts? And I bring this up because I'm

1999
01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:37,652
Speaker 2: just moving into a new house and I'm thinking about

2000
01:35:37,652 --> 01:35:39,572
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do, which sort of raises another

2001
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:43,972
Speaker 2: question about reno's and this Texas makes an interesting point, Matt.

2002
01:35:44,053 --> 01:35:46,053
Speaker 2: This is how to decide whether or not to do

2003
01:35:46,133 --> 01:35:48,293
Speaker 2: a reno for the next three months, take the extra

2004
01:35:48,372 --> 01:35:51,693
Speaker 2: mortgage repayments a reno will create out of your fortnately

2005
01:35:52,173 --> 01:35:54,612
Speaker 2: fortnightly income and put it into put it into a

2006
01:35:54,612 --> 01:35:57,012
Speaker 2: separate account. You'll soon know whether or not it's worth

2007
01:35:57,053 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 2: it for you to do the reno or not on

2008
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:00,492
Speaker 2: the amount you're spending each month.

2009
01:36:01,133 --> 01:36:01,333
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2010
01:36:01,412 --> 01:36:03,732
Speaker 2: And supplementary question to that, should you live in a

2011
01:36:03,812 --> 01:36:06,133
Speaker 2: house for a period of time before you do the

2012
01:36:06,652 --> 01:36:10,732
Speaker 2: the reno? Because you yes, until you actually lived there.

2013
01:36:10,772 --> 01:36:12,652
Speaker 2: Because I go around to a lot of people's houses

2014
01:36:12,652 --> 01:36:15,333
Speaker 2: and they've done these kind of little things in their house,

2015
01:36:15,853 --> 01:36:17,253
Speaker 2: and then they go, yeah, we shouldn't have done that.

2016
01:36:17,492 --> 01:36:19,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should have lived in it for a couple

2017
01:36:19,133 --> 01:36:21,532
Speaker 4: of months to figure it all out before we got

2018
01:36:21,572 --> 01:36:22,052
Speaker 4: the hammering.

2019
01:36:22,412 --> 01:36:22,652
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2020
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:24,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because it sounds

2021
01:36:24,933 --> 01:36:27,213
Speaker 4: all good on paper, and then you smash down one

2022
01:36:27,253 --> 01:36:29,412
Speaker 4: of those walls and realize, what have we done.

2023
01:36:29,532 --> 01:36:32,412
Speaker 2: What I've learned from previous renovations is don't smash out

2024
01:36:32,492 --> 01:36:35,652
Speaker 2: both bathrooms at the same time. Leave one active. Yeah,

2025
01:36:36,133 --> 01:36:36,772
Speaker 2: that's a biggie.

2026
01:36:36,853 --> 01:36:39,452
Speaker 4: There a massive one oh one hundred and eighty ten

2027
01:36:39,452 --> 01:36:40,253
Speaker 4: eight years the number to.

2028
01:36:40,253 --> 01:36:42,412
Speaker 2: Call Petulia, Welcome to the show.

2029
01:36:44,093 --> 01:36:47,692
Speaker 4: Hi, Hello, nice to chat with you. So this was

2030
01:36:47,732 --> 01:36:50,213
Speaker 4: a few years ago that you had quite a big

2031
01:36:50,652 --> 01:36:52,892
Speaker 4: kitchen and spent some time in it, but you had

2032
01:36:52,933 --> 01:36:55,732
Speaker 4: some problems with your husband, who was quite a vocal

2033
01:36:55,812 --> 01:36:56,333
Speaker 4: soccer fan.

2034
01:36:58,572 --> 01:37:00,532
Speaker 25: He's a crazy English soccer fan.

2035
01:37:00,692 --> 01:37:02,572
Speaker 17: Oh yes, yes.

2036
01:37:02,652 --> 01:37:05,133
Speaker 25: When we lived in Auckland, we had quite a big

2037
01:37:05,253 --> 01:37:08,932
Speaker 25: house and we had a separate kitchen dying in room area,

2038
01:37:09,013 --> 01:37:10,973
Speaker 25: which worked great for us. So he would be in

2039
01:37:11,053 --> 01:37:15,692
Speaker 25: the living room shouting and whatever at the screen, and

2040
01:37:15,812 --> 01:37:18,812
Speaker 25: I would be in the kitchen and cooking, baking. I

2041
01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:22,253
Speaker 25: do a lot of cooking and baking. And we were

2042
01:37:22,293 --> 01:37:28,572
Speaker 25: retired and moved down to Papamoa and we wondered, you know,

2043
01:37:28,772 --> 01:37:31,093
Speaker 25: how it was going to work out, Because of course

2044
01:37:31,213 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 25: open plan living is the thing now, and because we're

2045
01:37:36,213 --> 01:37:39,452
Speaker 25: used to being separate, we decided to go for a

2046
01:37:39,572 --> 01:37:45,772
Speaker 25: house that has pocket doors, which you get the best

2047
01:37:45,853 --> 01:37:49,532
Speaker 25: of both worlds from. So when the doors are pulled together,

2048
01:37:50,053 --> 01:37:52,412
Speaker 25: he's got his longe area and I've got my lovely

2049
01:37:52,492 --> 01:37:56,253
Speaker 25: big kitchen and when we've got the family round, we

2050
01:37:56,452 --> 01:37:58,532
Speaker 25: open them up and there's this great big space.

2051
01:37:59,133 --> 01:38:02,333
Speaker 2: Are those Are those blast doors sound proof enough to

2052
01:38:02,452 --> 01:38:06,013
Speaker 2: keep the you know, the enthusiastic sports fandom out.

2053
01:38:07,133 --> 01:38:09,692
Speaker 25: Absolutely, they're brilliant.

2054
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2055
01:38:10,933 --> 01:38:17,173
Speaker 25: I think you have the advantages of not having physical

2056
01:38:17,293 --> 01:38:20,692
Speaker 25: doors to push, you know, like having handles to push

2057
01:38:20,772 --> 01:38:23,932
Speaker 25: and open and because that takes up space, but then

2058
01:38:24,293 --> 01:38:28,093
Speaker 25: you have almost like a double door space there, so

2059
01:38:28,253 --> 01:38:30,532
Speaker 25: it makes the kitchen and the lounge seem as if

2060
01:38:30,572 --> 01:38:33,532
Speaker 25: it's all in one, but obviously when they're pulled together,

2061
01:38:33,652 --> 01:38:35,412
Speaker 25: they're closed. It's a huge area.

2062
01:38:36,572 --> 01:38:37,772
Speaker 2: Is it a big key we thing?

2063
01:38:38,452 --> 01:38:41,013
Speaker 4: Petunity you think when it comes to open plan? Is

2064
01:38:41,053 --> 01:38:43,452
Speaker 4: it just kind of this weird thing we decided one

2065
01:38:43,492 --> 01:38:45,572
Speaker 4: time as a nation their open plan is the way

2066
01:38:45,652 --> 01:38:48,213
Speaker 4: to go, whereas other places around the world, the UK,

2067
01:38:48,412 --> 01:38:51,093
Speaker 4: for example, I don't think that's so much into open plan,

2068
01:38:51,213 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 4: are they.

2069
01:38:52,572 --> 01:38:54,933
Speaker 25: No, that's absolutely right. We've just come back from the

2070
01:38:55,133 --> 01:38:58,533
Speaker 25: UK actually, and my sister lives in an old Victorian

2071
01:38:58,692 --> 01:39:01,532
Speaker 25: house and they've done the house up, but they have

2072
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:06,452
Speaker 25: a kitchen, a living room and a dining room. It's

2073
01:39:06,492 --> 01:39:10,333
Speaker 25: quite separate and very happy. I mean, my husband and

2074
01:39:10,452 --> 01:39:15,692
Speaker 25: I a musicians as well, and he plays a trumpet

2075
01:39:16,612 --> 01:39:20,932
Speaker 25: and I played the piano, and so all our married

2076
01:39:20,973 --> 01:39:23,772
Speaker 25: life we've had to have space where we can have

2077
01:39:24,013 --> 01:39:28,253
Speaker 25: instruments in our house and practice, and so it's been

2078
01:39:28,333 --> 01:39:33,013
Speaker 25: really important that we have separate spaces. But where we

2079
01:39:33,173 --> 01:39:35,532
Speaker 25: are now it's just work perfectly for us. And we

2080
01:39:35,973 --> 01:39:39,412
Speaker 25: both recently retired, so we spend a lot of time

2081
01:39:39,492 --> 01:39:42,053
Speaker 25: together for a lot of time separate at the same time.

2082
01:39:42,213 --> 01:39:42,852
Speaker 25: It's brilliant.

2083
01:39:43,013 --> 01:39:47,412
Speaker 2: Well, you need that, you know, you need you need

2084
01:39:47,452 --> 01:39:49,293
Speaker 2: your calm down space. You need to be able to

2085
01:39:49,412 --> 01:39:52,372
Speaker 2: just you know, appreciate your time with someone rather than

2086
01:39:52,412 --> 01:39:53,973
Speaker 2: having them up in your face all the time. Thank you,

2087
01:39:54,133 --> 01:39:55,732
Speaker 2: called por Trulier. It's funny. I was just looking at

2088
01:39:55,772 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 2: a thing about England and that there's this article he

2089
01:39:58,412 --> 01:40:01,612
Speaker 2: is saying about in England and people are moving away,

2090
01:40:02,093 --> 01:40:04,932
Speaker 2: saying the walls are coming back, people are moving away

2091
01:40:05,013 --> 01:40:08,093
Speaker 2: from the open play loving and people are moving back

2092
01:40:08,133 --> 01:40:11,173
Speaker 2: to more nooks and crannies and such. I mean, it's

2093
01:40:11,173 --> 01:40:15,412
Speaker 2: difficult over there, I mentioned in terms of the heating

2094
01:40:15,492 --> 01:40:19,652
Speaker 2: and such. Welcome. Oh Bruce, Yeah, you're timely, open hand,

2095
01:40:19,893 --> 01:40:21,333
Speaker 2: open plan living and heating.

2096
01:40:23,013 --> 01:40:27,053
Speaker 14: Yes, so I'm a refrigeration engineer by trade with some

2097
01:40:27,253 --> 01:40:31,093
Speaker 14: building experience, and they have lived in a large Californian

2098
01:40:31,772 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 14: style house, more recently a split level house and now

2099
01:40:38,532 --> 01:40:42,532
Speaker 14: an older weather board house with small rooms. And something

2100
01:40:42,612 --> 01:40:45,452
Speaker 14: that you need to consider depending on where you live

2101
01:40:45,532 --> 01:40:50,013
Speaker 14: in my opinion, is the heating system you wish to

2102
01:40:50,372 --> 01:40:53,572
Speaker 14: maintain a comfortable house after you've just spent you know,

2103
01:40:54,253 --> 01:40:56,412
Speaker 14: fifty two one hundred grand on your operations.

2104
01:40:57,412 --> 01:41:00,052
Speaker 2: Yes, so if you if you open up a house

2105
01:41:00,133 --> 01:41:02,572
Speaker 2: and it's a modern situation and you've got all the

2106
01:41:02,612 --> 01:41:06,412
Speaker 2: double glazed window windows and stuff, you know, a modern

2107
01:41:06,452 --> 01:41:09,732
Speaker 2: house can be large areas be heated and hold the

2108
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:11,372
Speaker 2: heat pretty well. Now though, can't they bruce?

2109
01:41:13,372 --> 01:41:16,333
Speaker 14: They can? But it's about heat transfer.

2110
01:41:16,812 --> 01:41:16,973
Speaker 11: You know.

2111
01:41:17,173 --> 01:41:21,013
Speaker 14: Heat pumps are a popular form of heating, but a

2112
01:41:21,293 --> 01:41:26,372
Speaker 14: struggle to get you know, the space above the door jam.

2113
01:41:26,853 --> 01:41:30,333
Speaker 14: You know there's two foot of space there where heat

2114
01:41:30,412 --> 01:41:37,412
Speaker 14: can't move between room between rooms and heat heat rises.

2115
01:41:37,532 --> 01:41:42,173
Speaker 14: So unless you have a heat transfer type system like

2116
01:41:42,492 --> 01:41:46,772
Speaker 14: was popular when we all had love fires, you have

2117
01:41:46,973 --> 01:41:51,012
Speaker 14: to put in you know, multiple heat pumps or adducted system.

2118
01:41:51,572 --> 01:41:56,372
Speaker 14: So a high wall low wall air conditioning system you

2119
01:41:56,532 --> 01:42:00,572
Speaker 14: can get you know, for probably under five thousand dollars,

2120
01:42:00,652 --> 01:42:03,772
Speaker 14: but if you go to adducted system you're talking you know,

2121
01:42:03,973 --> 01:42:08,932
Speaker 14: ten thousand dollars plus. So it's depending on where you live.

2122
01:42:09,013 --> 01:42:12,452
Speaker 14: Of course I live in christ Church. You need to

2123
01:42:12,572 --> 01:42:15,733
Speaker 14: consider your heating system and what's going to be economical

2124
01:42:15,812 --> 01:42:19,253
Speaker 14: for your pocket. Do you have excess to fireworld, are

2125
01:42:19,293 --> 01:42:21,452
Speaker 14: you looking at a heat pump? And how do you

2126
01:42:21,572 --> 01:42:23,772
Speaker 14: want to what sort of heat do you want in

2127
01:42:23,812 --> 01:42:25,492
Speaker 14: your bedrooms? Any or none?

2128
01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:28,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great point because our place down in

2129
01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:32,093
Speaker 4: christ Church open playing kitchen and lounge, and during the

2130
01:42:32,133 --> 01:42:34,333
Speaker 4: course of this conversation, I've decided I hate it and

2131
01:42:34,372 --> 01:42:36,213
Speaker 4: the wall needs to go back up. But it's a

2132
01:42:36,253 --> 01:42:38,612
Speaker 4: palette fire that has to be in that area because

2133
01:42:38,652 --> 01:42:41,372
Speaker 4: that's the only thing that heats it up properly. Is

2134
01:42:41,532 --> 01:42:43,173
Speaker 4: that we don't actually have a heat pump in there.

2135
01:42:43,173 --> 01:42:45,532
Speaker 4: It's just the palette fire. So then when it comes

2136
01:42:45,692 --> 01:42:48,732
Speaker 4: to those warm Canterbury summers, we kind of bug it.

2137
01:42:48,853 --> 01:42:52,013
Speaker 4: There's nothing to cool it down, so it's almost you know,

2138
01:42:52,173 --> 01:42:56,452
Speaker 4: it's become too complicated to sort out that open plant

2139
01:42:56,492 --> 01:42:57,973
Speaker 4: part of the house. With a back part of the

2140
01:42:58,013 --> 01:43:00,013
Speaker 4: house easy as just a heat pump sorts it out.

2141
01:43:01,412 --> 01:43:06,253
Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, just thrown into the conversation because it's something

2142
01:43:06,333 --> 01:43:11,133
Speaker 14: that's often overlooked and ill stick to burners a last

2143
01:43:11,213 --> 01:43:16,572
Speaker 14: minute decision and as I say as a refrigeration engineer,

2144
01:43:17,692 --> 01:43:21,412
Speaker 14: they need more open areas to function.

2145
01:43:21,612 --> 01:43:25,492
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Bruce, thank you very much for your expertise.

2146
01:43:25,772 --> 01:43:28,893
Speaker 2: This is interesting hugely. It depends on who's living in

2147
01:43:28,973 --> 01:43:30,812
Speaker 2: the house. You only have to look at the reversal

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01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:33,892
Speaker 2: of this government's open planned classroom. Mostly it didn't work

2149
01:43:33,933 --> 01:43:37,812
Speaker 2: similar to their homes perhaps regards Chris, Yeah, I mean

2150
01:43:37,853 --> 01:43:40,492
Speaker 2: that's that's that's a good point. Is it more stressful

2151
01:43:40,532 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 2: when everyone's in the same area and as a result,

2152
01:43:42,333 --> 01:43:45,572
Speaker 2: your teenager teenage kid just stays in their room, as

2153
01:43:45,612 --> 01:43:47,293
Speaker 2: opposed to if they could go into the lounge and

2154
01:43:47,372 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 2: the door was shut and everyone else was hanging out

2155
01:43:49,372 --> 01:43:50,732
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, you could come and see them for

2156
01:43:50,772 --> 01:43:53,892
Speaker 2: a bit. It is it really that great for everyone

2157
01:43:53,973 --> 01:43:57,293
Speaker 2: to always be in this you know, the whole wide open.

2158
01:43:57,372 --> 01:43:59,732
Speaker 2: If you don't, if you only have one lounge and

2159
01:43:59,973 --> 01:44:02,333
Speaker 2: all the kitchen, dining room, lounge are in one place,

2160
01:44:02,772 --> 01:44:06,012
Speaker 2: isn't that kind of like open planned classrooms where everyone's

2161
01:44:06,053 --> 01:44:07,053
Speaker 2: just stressed out all the time.

2162
01:44:07,053 --> 01:44:09,932
Speaker 4: It's just chaos. You're right, there's better for family dynamics

2163
01:44:10,013 --> 01:44:12,492
Speaker 4: to not have the open plan that way, if the

2164
01:44:12,532 --> 01:44:14,372
Speaker 4: teenagers want to come in and just have their own

2165
01:44:14,412 --> 01:44:16,213
Speaker 4: space in the lounge, at least it's not their room.

2166
01:44:16,452 --> 01:44:17,212
Speaker 4: It's a privacy.

2167
01:44:17,333 --> 01:44:19,933
Speaker 2: There's some tiny little booth down the end of the

2168
01:44:20,293 --> 01:44:23,253
Speaker 2: hallway that's sort of with a half sized door that

2169
01:44:23,333 --> 01:44:24,572
Speaker 2: they consider in by themselves.

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01:44:24,893 --> 01:44:27,012
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2171
01:44:27,013 --> 01:44:29,012
Speaker 4: to call if you've gone against the grain of open

2172
01:44:29,053 --> 01:44:31,053
Speaker 4: plan Love to hear from you. Nine to nine two

2173
01:44:31,173 --> 01:44:32,052
Speaker 4: is the text number.

2174
01:44:32,372 --> 01:44:34,372
Speaker 2: Is it time to bring back the maze? Is it

2175
01:44:34,452 --> 01:44:36,333
Speaker 2: time to go back to the hobbit holes? Are we

2176
01:44:36,812 --> 01:44:39,333
Speaker 2: opening up and as a results dressing ourselves out? Oh,

2177
01:44:39,372 --> 01:44:40,412
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2178
01:44:41,692 --> 01:44:45,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

2179
01:44:45,333 --> 01:44:49,333
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

2180
01:44:49,333 --> 01:44:52,253
Speaker 4: They'd be afternoon to you. It is seventeen to four.

2181
01:44:52,412 --> 01:44:55,293
Speaker 4: Have we taken open plan living too far? Are our

2182
01:44:55,333 --> 01:44:57,732
Speaker 4: homes now so open? There's nowhere to escape. Love to

2183
01:44:57,772 --> 01:44:58,253
Speaker 4: your thoughts.

2184
01:44:58,492 --> 01:45:00,732
Speaker 2: The sixer says, hey, Matt and Tyler, I hate open

2185
01:45:00,812 --> 01:45:03,372
Speaker 2: plan living. All the renovations of old houses look the same.

2186
01:45:04,173 --> 01:45:10,692
Speaker 2: It's boring as yeah, great point Texter, Whereas this person says, Hi, guys,

2187
01:45:10,732 --> 01:45:15,092
Speaker 2: I love open plan for home, work, restaurants, et cetera. Light, spacious, social,

2188
01:45:15,213 --> 01:45:17,893
Speaker 2: so pleasant. I hate separate rooms makes me feel claustrophobic.

2189
01:45:18,333 --> 01:45:19,972
Speaker 2: Can't work or stay in that space.

2190
01:45:20,452 --> 01:45:23,732
Speaker 4: And thank you for that text, Shames. How are you?

2191
01:45:25,333 --> 01:45:25,572
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2192
01:45:25,612 --> 01:45:26,732
Speaker 23: Good, Matte? Are you doing mate?

2193
01:45:27,253 --> 01:45:30,213
Speaker 2: Very nope, so both of us, how are you, James?

2194
01:45:30,853 --> 01:45:31,053
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2195
01:45:31,213 --> 01:45:31,692
Speaker 13: Good good.

2196
01:45:33,213 --> 01:45:36,213
Speaker 23: I we bought like a nineteen to ten bungalo and

2197
01:45:36,293 --> 01:45:38,612
Speaker 23: we opened it right up to the type and plan,

2198
01:45:40,013 --> 01:45:43,972
Speaker 23: and then we had two young children and we're actually

2199
01:45:44,013 --> 01:45:46,572
Speaker 23: looking at building in the next couple of years and

2200
01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:49,333
Speaker 23: we're going to have an open plan space. But we're

2201
01:45:49,452 --> 01:45:52,652
Speaker 23: definitely angering towards having like a small kind of media

2202
01:45:52,732 --> 01:45:54,612
Speaker 23: room we can dump the kids and all the toys.

2203
01:45:56,053 --> 01:45:56,652
Speaker 4: That's a big one.

2204
01:45:57,532 --> 01:45:57,732
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2205
01:45:57,812 --> 01:46:00,692
Speaker 4: I think having the TV room separately to the old kitchen,

2206
01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:04,093
Speaker 4: I think that that's a biggin. And again, I've got

2207
01:46:04,093 --> 01:46:05,772
Speaker 4: the open plan in christ Church. Now I'm in a

2208
01:46:05,812 --> 01:46:09,412
Speaker 4: place a rental lovely bungalow, got the the operate movie room,

2209
01:46:09,692 --> 01:46:12,532
Speaker 4: which sounds pretty elite. It's just a lounge, the man,

2210
01:46:12,612 --> 01:46:14,492
Speaker 4: that's a game changer, absolute game changer.

2211
01:46:15,412 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure.

2212
01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:18,133
Speaker 23: I mean the amount of times I've stumbled out of

2213
01:46:18,173 --> 01:46:21,053
Speaker 23: bed at three am to get a bottle to feed

2214
01:46:21,093 --> 01:46:25,012
Speaker 23: the kid and I've tripped over something and too many

2215
01:46:25,053 --> 01:46:27,732
Speaker 23: times account So I can definitely see like the open

2216
01:46:27,772 --> 01:46:29,972
Speaker 23: plan when you've got people over as a winner for sure.

2217
01:46:30,093 --> 01:46:33,652
Speaker 23: But having that extra space, I mean, there's only so

2218
01:46:33,732 --> 01:46:36,652
Speaker 23: many of the fodes of Bluey and once I've seen

2219
01:46:36,692 --> 01:46:36,973
Speaker 23: them all.

2220
01:46:38,372 --> 01:46:40,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this thing. You know, you can love your

2221
01:46:40,452 --> 01:46:43,572
Speaker 2: family to bits and you want you're devoted to them

2222
01:46:43,612 --> 01:46:45,972
Speaker 2: and you want to do everything for them. You work

2223
01:46:46,053 --> 01:46:49,133
Speaker 2: really hard to pay for everything, but you don't necessarily

2224
01:46:49,213 --> 01:46:51,133
Speaker 2: want them up and you grill twenty four seven when

2225
01:46:51,133 --> 01:46:53,852
Speaker 2: you get home. You know, you want to spend quality time,

2226
01:46:54,013 --> 01:46:57,572
Speaker 2: not just sometimes just them being in another room by

2227
01:46:57,612 --> 01:46:58,852
Speaker 2: themselves is good for them as well.

2228
01:47:00,612 --> 01:47:03,572
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for call James, James, you're a good man.

2229
01:47:03,853 --> 01:47:05,852
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

2230
01:47:05,893 --> 01:47:07,612
Speaker 4: of call? Open Plan Living?

2231
01:47:07,692 --> 01:47:08,053
Speaker 10: Is it all that?

2232
01:47:08,093 --> 01:47:13,372
Speaker 4: It's freaked up to be a very good So you

2233
01:47:13,452 --> 01:47:15,092
Speaker 4: want to have a chat about heating for open plans

2234
01:47:15,133 --> 01:47:15,412
Speaker 4: as well.

2235
01:47:16,853 --> 01:47:19,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, open plans great. We've got the kitchen and then

2236
01:47:19,612 --> 01:47:21,932
Speaker 3: what divides the kitchen as a wall, but it's still

2237
01:47:22,053 --> 01:47:24,612
Speaker 3: very much open plan. There's no doors between the kitchen

2238
01:47:24,652 --> 01:47:27,213
Speaker 3: and in the land's room. It's quite a big space.

2239
01:47:27,253 --> 01:47:29,812
Speaker 3: And we have heat pump and gas.

2240
01:47:31,293 --> 01:47:33,612
Speaker 4: Right, so what's that has been flud?

2241
01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:36,452
Speaker 3: Guests sort fluid near it's built and guests fire. Yeah,

2242
01:47:36,893 --> 01:47:39,772
Speaker 3: very economical and you can also like guests when as

2243
01:47:39,772 --> 01:47:40,253
Speaker 3: a pair cut.

2244
01:47:41,093 --> 01:47:42,612
Speaker 4: It's a good point. So is that one of those

2245
01:47:42,692 --> 01:47:44,973
Speaker 4: new moderns kind of gas fires that it looks like

2246
01:47:45,093 --> 01:47:47,173
Speaker 4: real flame and you've got the fake logs. Is it

2247
01:47:47,253 --> 01:47:48,253
Speaker 4: one of those situations?

2248
01:47:48,372 --> 01:47:52,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not new. It's actually fid actually, but it

2249
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:55,213
Speaker 3: still looks you know, but yeah, we it just ignited

2250
01:47:55,253 --> 01:47:58,412
Speaker 3: it like you would a barbecue and there you've got

2251
01:47:58,452 --> 01:47:58,852
Speaker 3: your heat.

2252
01:47:59,572 --> 01:48:00,572
Speaker 4: It does look very nice.

2253
01:48:01,452 --> 01:48:04,253
Speaker 3: Heats up the whole house everything. So it's all flame

2254
01:48:04,853 --> 01:48:07,253
Speaker 3: and heat pumps only about twenty degrees. Still its heaps

2255
01:48:07,293 --> 01:48:10,772
Speaker 3: up the whole house, right, recommend guests great?

2256
01:48:10,933 --> 01:48:13,012
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so the heat pump there's in the lounges

2257
01:48:13,053 --> 01:48:14,652
Speaker 4: that so to cool things down if it gets a

2258
01:48:14,692 --> 01:48:15,013
Speaker 4: bit hot.

2259
01:48:16,973 --> 01:48:19,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like the heat tub will turn up

2260
01:48:19,013 --> 01:48:23,572
Speaker 3: when the guest fires on and once the heats tend

2261
01:48:23,612 --> 01:48:25,293
Speaker 3: the guests far half the heat pumble cut back in.

2262
01:48:26,572 --> 01:48:28,253
Speaker 4: I mean it sounds like it works pretty well for

2263
01:48:28,333 --> 01:48:30,132
Speaker 4: yet feel. But I've got to say those guest fires

2264
01:48:30,372 --> 01:48:33,652
Speaker 4: they are beautiful looking. But are they can you get

2265
01:48:33,692 --> 01:48:35,532
Speaker 4: them with bottled or is it just reticulated? You know

2266
01:48:35,612 --> 01:48:37,493
Speaker 4: you're going to go right back into the system.

2267
01:48:38,893 --> 01:48:40,852
Speaker 3: Bottles, but the bottle will last year? What if you

2268
01:48:41,053 --> 01:48:43,052
Speaker 3: tread it right? We don't have the other on high.

2269
01:48:44,412 --> 01:48:47,173
Speaker 3: Probably good three or four months. If anybody can better that,

2270
01:48:47,293 --> 01:48:49,452
Speaker 3: let us know the interest of it. Yeah, you can

2271
01:48:49,492 --> 01:48:51,973
Speaker 3: get a really good, good linked to time out of

2272
01:48:52,013 --> 01:48:54,372
Speaker 3: a guest bottle. I'm not too sure at the cost

2273
01:48:54,412 --> 01:48:55,732
Speaker 3: now we stored it when we want one.

2274
01:48:56,133 --> 01:48:58,012
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good and they look beautiful.

2275
01:48:58,893 --> 01:48:59,773
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2276
01:48:59,812 --> 01:49:01,652
Speaker 3: I think we've had two this year, two guest bottles

2277
01:49:01,652 --> 01:49:04,253
Speaker 3: and that's so. Yeah, and what year is nearly over?

2278
01:49:04,532 --> 01:49:06,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good value. Felt things very much impressive.

2279
01:49:06,973 --> 01:49:09,812
Speaker 2: Thank you. Awful house house all of the above open

2280
01:49:09,853 --> 01:49:11,852
Speaker 2: plan and also lots of separate space for children. And

2281
01:49:11,853 --> 01:49:14,532
Speaker 2: grown ups. Yeah, I mean some people can have everything.

2282
01:49:14,772 --> 01:49:17,173
Speaker 2: You can have a big, cavernous open plan area that

2283
01:49:17,612 --> 01:49:23,452
Speaker 2: leads out into the deck and beautiful you know landscape lawns.

2284
01:49:23,893 --> 01:49:25,372
Speaker 2: And then I mean some people can probably have a

2285
01:49:25,532 --> 01:49:28,052
Speaker 2: spear little kitchen somewhere else in a spear little lounge

2286
01:49:28,093 --> 01:49:30,533
Speaker 2: and a movie room like you, Dick Tyler.

2287
01:49:30,412 --> 01:49:32,732
Speaker 4: The Butler's Pantryeah, yeah, all of the above. It's it's

2288
01:49:32,772 --> 01:49:34,012
Speaker 4: really nicely, I've got to say.

2289
01:49:33,973 --> 01:49:35,173
Speaker 2: But I think I'm going to have to make some

2290
01:49:35,253 --> 01:49:38,053
Speaker 2: decisions in my bungalow. It's not that big.

2291
01:49:38,173 --> 01:49:40,772
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

2292
01:49:40,853 --> 01:49:42,692
Speaker 4: call if you want to send a text, nine two

2293
01:49:42,772 --> 01:49:46,012
Speaker 4: nine two. But if you've recently done Reno's the old

2294
01:49:46,093 --> 01:49:47,772
Speaker 4: open plan, did it work out for you?

2295
01:49:48,013 --> 01:49:50,692
Speaker 2: If you have a fifties house, get fifties furniture, enjoy

2296
01:49:50,772 --> 01:49:52,812
Speaker 2: the style of the day. And remember those old school

2297
01:49:52,853 --> 01:49:56,092
Speaker 2: kitchen cabinets are fast upperior quality than the cupboard crap

2298
01:49:56,253 --> 01:49:59,173
Speaker 2: they produce these days. Yeah, but I think the fifties

2299
01:49:59,492 --> 01:50:02,452
Speaker 2: kitchen is maybe just a lutable, too cramp for people

2300
01:50:02,812 --> 01:50:03,732
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.

2301
01:50:03,933 --> 01:50:06,093
Speaker 4: They were pretty small, Yeah, couldn't do much in those

2302
01:50:06,133 --> 01:50:10,293
Speaker 4: little fifties kitchens. Yeah, yeah, it is twelve minutes to four.

2303
01:50:10,372 --> 01:50:12,173
Speaker 4: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty will take another

2304
01:50:12,253 --> 01:50:14,692
Speaker 4: couple of calls. Next it is twelve to four.

2305
01:50:14,732 --> 01:50:18,252
Speaker 1: Back in the mint, the big stories, the big issues,

2306
01:50:18,452 --> 01:50:21,612
Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and

2307
01:50:21,692 --> 01:50:24,253
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons Used talks thet B.

2308
01:50:25,973 --> 01:50:28,812
Speaker 4: News Talks thet B. It is nine minutes to four.

2309
01:50:29,173 --> 01:50:31,492
Speaker 4: So have we lost our privacy in the name of

2310
01:50:31,652 --> 01:50:34,013
Speaker 4: open plan living? I eight hundred eighty ten Eightyes, at

2311
01:50:34,093 --> 01:50:35,492
Speaker 4: number to call the sesss.

2312
01:50:35,692 --> 01:50:37,772
Speaker 2: Remember the English have their laundry in the kitchen, so

2313
01:50:37,853 --> 01:50:40,972
Speaker 2: while cooking you can enjoy watching your skiddies getting clean.

2314
01:50:41,612 --> 01:50:44,133
Speaker 2: That's perfect this from Dave. I've seen that a lot

2315
01:50:44,253 --> 01:50:46,652
Speaker 2: in the UK. Is that just because the houses of

2316
01:50:47,013 --> 01:50:49,412
Speaker 2: flats have lived in over there have been so small.

2317
01:50:49,853 --> 01:50:52,012
Speaker 2: But that is a thing that you just don't see

2318
01:50:52,013 --> 01:50:54,173
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Someone having the washer and dryer in

2319
01:50:54,253 --> 01:50:56,812
Speaker 2: the kitchen area and thank God for that. Well that

2320
01:50:57,053 --> 01:50:59,852
Speaker 2: that makes kind of sense to me. Why because that's

2321
01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:01,492
Speaker 2: kind of the stuff where you're doing all that sort

2322
01:51:01,492 --> 01:51:03,893
Speaker 2: of domestic stuff and want to do it all in

2323
01:51:03,933 --> 01:51:04,452
Speaker 2: the one place.

2324
01:51:04,532 --> 01:51:06,772
Speaker 4: But then if you got the dryer blasting, why you're

2325
01:51:06,812 --> 01:51:09,053
Speaker 4: doing the court on blur? I mean there's a lot

2326
01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:10,092
Speaker 4: of humidity in the kitchen.

2327
01:51:10,572 --> 01:51:13,612
Speaker 2: The court on blur. Do you make your own court

2328
01:51:13,652 --> 01:51:15,612
Speaker 2: on blues? Or is the set of a McCain's packet.

2329
01:51:15,732 --> 01:51:18,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's my whipping up the court on blur.

2330
01:51:18,173 --> 01:51:20,412
Speaker 2: Blase sirs. She loves it. I love a court on

2331
01:51:20,452 --> 01:51:22,612
Speaker 2: blur to be honest. It is lovely. Malcolm, welcome with

2332
01:51:22,692 --> 01:51:22,972
Speaker 2: the show.

2333
01:51:23,772 --> 01:51:24,293
Speaker 23: How are you going to go?

2334
01:51:24,333 --> 01:51:24,972
Speaker 2: It's very good.

2335
01:51:25,692 --> 01:51:28,772
Speaker 26: Yeah, I've just done a we've got a lifestyle block

2336
01:51:28,812 --> 01:51:31,093
Speaker 26: property but it says just a house. But I just

2337
01:51:31,173 --> 01:51:34,612
Speaker 26: recently took out the wall between the kitchen and lounge

2338
01:51:34,652 --> 01:51:39,932
Speaker 26: and dining room. Fairly big area, but we like it well.

2339
01:51:40,013 --> 01:51:42,532
Speaker 26: One thing I was going to say is when renovating

2340
01:51:42,532 --> 01:51:44,772
Speaker 26: these houses i've found and I've done a couple, I

2341
01:51:44,933 --> 01:51:47,053
Speaker 26: just moved the kitchen to a totally different part of

2342
01:51:47,173 --> 01:51:50,212
Speaker 26: the room. Two good things about that is the kitchens.

2343
01:51:50,812 --> 01:51:53,852
Speaker 26: I've made my kitchen so they're not a walk through area,

2344
01:51:54,053 --> 01:51:55,852
Speaker 26: you know, so the kitchens set, but you only go

2345
01:51:55,933 --> 01:51:57,412
Speaker 26: in the kitchen if you want to go in the kitchen.

2346
01:51:58,093 --> 01:52:00,093
Speaker 26: And I find out a lot better than how a

2347
01:52:00,133 --> 01:52:03,132
Speaker 26: lot of houses are set up. But also the lighting.

2348
01:52:03,333 --> 01:52:06,333
Speaker 26: You know, when you've got your open planning area, it's

2349
01:52:06,412 --> 01:52:09,892
Speaker 26: quite amazing. I can have two ten what allied light's

2350
01:52:09,933 --> 01:52:12,932
Speaker 26: going in our living area and you can use the kitchen.

2351
01:52:13,652 --> 01:52:19,052
Speaker 26: So that's quite a freaky thing. And yeah, the heating,

2352
01:52:19,133 --> 01:52:20,732
Speaker 26: I don't find that an issue. But we have a

2353
01:52:20,812 --> 01:52:25,253
Speaker 26: separate sort of entrance area is quite big. In another

2354
01:52:25,293 --> 01:52:27,093
Speaker 26: area I took another wall out of and it's now

2355
01:52:27,293 --> 01:52:30,293
Speaker 26: quite a separate down So probably quite lucky there because they,

2356
01:52:30,492 --> 01:52:32,932
Speaker 26: like you say, the teenagers like to hit their own space,

2357
01:52:33,013 --> 01:52:35,492
Speaker 26: but they sort of stuck in their view gyms half

2358
01:52:35,532 --> 01:52:38,133
Speaker 26: the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, moving the kitchens is a

2359
01:52:38,173 --> 01:52:41,053
Speaker 26: good one, and you know, you can be functional, your

2360
01:52:41,093 --> 01:52:43,053
Speaker 26: house can stay functional while you're setting up your new

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Speaker 26: kitchen as well.

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Speaker 4: So where do you put the kitchen? So you've got

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01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:48,372
Speaker 4: the rest of the house open plan, the lounge and

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01:52:48,452 --> 01:52:50,532
Speaker 4: maybe the bedrooms in the hallways a bit more, you've

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01:52:50,532 --> 01:52:52,612
Speaker 4: opened that up, and then the kitchen is kind of

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01:52:52,853 --> 01:52:54,052
Speaker 4: on the separate part of the house.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, well Willis was I if you can imagine the phone,

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01:52:58,213 --> 01:52:59,892
Speaker 26: but the lounge was at the front of the house.

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Speaker 3: Which I find ridiculous too.

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Speaker 26: You know, why do people these older houses have the

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01:53:04,812 --> 01:53:06,972
Speaker 26: lounge at the front facing the street. You really want

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01:53:06,973 --> 01:53:09,372
Speaker 26: them at the back, which I did that to my

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01:53:10,013 --> 01:53:13,093
Speaker 26: previous house back in the nineties. I built a new

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01:53:13,133 --> 01:53:16,252
Speaker 26: louns on the back and the old lounges become a bedroom.

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01:53:17,333 --> 01:53:19,812
Speaker 26: But yeah, I don't know, you've got a street and

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01:53:19,973 --> 01:53:22,693
Speaker 26: all the lounges are facing the street, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It used to be that the houses were designed to

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01:53:25,772 --> 01:53:27,732
Speaker 2: show off basically, right, so you had that at the

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01:53:27,772 --> 01:53:30,013
Speaker 2: front of the house looked amazing, and then you'd have

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01:53:30,253 --> 01:53:33,932
Speaker 2: like a dining room and a living room at the front,

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01:53:34,013 --> 01:53:35,973
Speaker 2: and then out the back was all this sort of

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01:53:36,652 --> 01:53:39,013
Speaker 2: you know, the kitchen and the bathrooms and all this

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01:53:39,133 --> 01:53:41,213
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. That was all about fronting, wasn't it.

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Speaker 26: Back Yeah, but now you want to be able to

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01:53:43,293 --> 01:53:45,133
Speaker 26: sort of open your runt slider up or whatever and

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01:53:45,372 --> 01:53:48,012
Speaker 26: go to the back the backyard and be more private.

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01:53:48,532 --> 01:53:48,692
Speaker 23: You know.

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01:53:48,772 --> 01:53:52,213
Speaker 26: It's they're definitely all those old state houses and that

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01:53:52,612 --> 01:53:55,253
Speaker 26: sort of thing around lower huts and that, well, they

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01:53:55,293 --> 01:53:57,812
Speaker 26: were all landes at the front sort of thing. So

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01:53:58,213 --> 01:54:00,412
Speaker 26: there's one side of the road gets the sun on

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01:54:00,452 --> 01:54:02,932
Speaker 26: the other side doesn't. So I don't know where they're

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01:54:02,973 --> 01:54:06,133
Speaker 26: based their theory on, but yeah, it's my little theory.

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01:54:06,213 --> 01:54:09,253
Speaker 26: Or the kitchen, you know, movie kitchens. Another thing I

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01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:10,692
Speaker 26: was going to say that, you know, if you if

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01:54:10,732 --> 01:54:13,973
Speaker 26: you are renovating, get your full plan, you know, just

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01:54:14,053 --> 01:54:16,253
Speaker 26: the full plan view of it, and then look at

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01:54:16,293 --> 01:54:20,213
Speaker 26: that before you start cutting anything out, because do it.

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01:54:20,492 --> 01:54:22,333
Speaker 26: You might do it for a modern house and you'll

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01:54:22,333 --> 01:54:25,452
Speaker 26: find there's a lot less building materials used. But of

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01:54:25,532 --> 01:54:27,293
Speaker 26: course you have foot beams and whatnot on the roof

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01:54:28,133 --> 01:54:29,412
Speaker 26: usually when you're taking balls out.

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01:54:30,853 --> 01:54:32,892
Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense, Malcolm, thank you. Yeah, kitchen

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01:54:32,973 --> 01:54:36,333
Speaker 4: in a different area, you're Rachel. We've got about sixty seconds.

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01:54:36,373 --> 01:54:36,693
Speaker 4: How are you?

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01:54:38,693 --> 01:54:43,533
Speaker 27: Oh yeah, yeah, my take on it very quickly as.

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01:54:45,413 --> 01:54:47,373
Speaker 21: About how the number of years have got just a

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01:54:47,453 --> 01:54:52,653
Speaker 21: small nineteen fifty's house and it's great dining, living kitchen.

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01:54:53,413 --> 01:54:56,133
Speaker 21: But I have a bit of an issue with it

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01:54:56,333 --> 01:54:58,413
Speaker 21: every Sunday when the USC.

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01:54:58,253 --> 01:55:00,812
Speaker 3: Goes on the TV now is on?

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01:55:01,853 --> 01:55:05,533
Speaker 4: Ye see, I.

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01:55:05,653 --> 01:55:09,173
Speaker 27: Cannot stand it. And so there's kind of no way

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01:55:09,213 --> 01:55:11,733
Speaker 27: to go unless I go down to the bedroom end

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01:55:11,733 --> 01:55:15,413
Speaker 27: of the house or I leave the house. And equally,

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01:55:15,493 --> 01:55:19,573
Speaker 27: my husband gets really frustrated with the banging and crushing

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01:55:19,653 --> 01:55:21,413
Speaker 27: in the kitchen because I like to potter around and

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01:55:21,453 --> 01:55:25,013
Speaker 27: we also have our laundry behind couple doors in a kitchen.

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01:55:24,973 --> 01:55:25,053
Speaker 18: And.

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01:55:27,373 --> 01:55:32,253
Speaker 4: Yes I can, yeah, Rachel, thank you very much.

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01:55:32,373 --> 01:55:32,533
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:55:32,533 --> 01:55:36,213
Speaker 2: I think that that that overly enthusiastic sport watching leaking

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01:55:36,333 --> 01:55:38,653
Speaker 2: into the shared open planned space is a problem for

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01:55:38,693 --> 01:55:40,973
Speaker 2: a lot of people. And uh, you know, the way

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01:55:41,053 --> 01:55:43,053
Speaker 2: I watch sport as a problem for everyone, not just

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01:55:43,573 --> 01:55:45,812
Speaker 2: in the open plan area if we had it, but uh,

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01:55:46,293 --> 01:55:50,093
Speaker 2: you know the neighborhood, and you know, just anyone on

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01:55:50,173 --> 01:55:51,333
Speaker 2: a sports thread with me.

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01:55:51,573 --> 01:55:52,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, poor Tracy Man.

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01:55:52,772 --> 01:55:55,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, thank you so much for listening everyone.

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01:55:56,053 --> 01:55:58,772
Speaker 2: I loved our chats today. It's been a great old time.

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01:55:58,893 --> 01:56:01,173
Speaker 2: The podcast will be out very soon. Here the dup

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01:56:01,293 --> 01:56:04,253
Speaker 2: c Allen is up next. But Tyler, my good buddy.

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01:56:04,253 --> 01:56:05,413
Speaker 2: Why am I playing the song.

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01:56:05,573 --> 01:56:07,493
Speaker 4: But yellow text? He counting crows?

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01:56:07,973 --> 01:56:08,013
Speaker 14: She?

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01:56:08,373 --> 01:56:10,373
Speaker 4: I don't have any idea And we've.

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01:56:10,213 --> 01:56:12,293
Speaker 2: Talked about parking for two hours in the songs is

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01:56:12,333 --> 01:56:14,852
Speaker 2: parking lot? So oh yeah, beautiful, good choice, that's all.

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01:56:14,893 --> 01:56:17,733
Speaker 2: It is, so lovely. June. Yeah, the Jody Mitchell versions

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01:56:17,772 --> 01:56:21,093
Speaker 2: better though, anyway, anyway till tomorrow afternoon give them a

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01:56:21,133 --> 01:56:23,213
Speaker 2: taste of Kiwi. Thank you so much for listening. You

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01:56:23,253 --> 01:56:24,733
Speaker 2: seem busy, Will let you go? Love you.

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Speaker 12: Heard a fucking

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