1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Now when I say Brisco's, you imagine a big store, 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: right with rows and rows of towels and pots and pillows. Well, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the company is now adding fifteen mini metro stores to 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: its lineup to boost sales. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Brisco's first quarter. 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Sales were down two point six percent, but its business 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: is largely held up when much of the retail sector 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: has really been struggling of late. Brisco Matt Group Managing 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Director Rod Duke is with. 10 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Us now, Hay Rod, Hi, how a, you're doing very well. 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Thank you know what's the thinking behind these mini stores? 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's part of our strategic look forward. So what 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: brought me do to increase outreach through New Zealand given 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: that the only thing we've got left is relatively smaller catchments, 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: And so we're on a path to develop a smaller 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: unit which will address these the smaller catchments. 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, where are you thinking, Well, there's. 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Probably about a dozen locations. I'll give you a couple 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: of examples. Tower Ager. I've got one store in Toweroger. 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: It's a pret big catchmant. But I've got one store 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: downtown which addresses some of the over the bridge catchment. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: But there's much larger catchment developing further out towards Bethlehem. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: We've got one store. Could we put another two minis 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: in there? Yeah? I think we probably could. And that's 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: the sort of thing we're looking at. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: What about city centers, for example Auckland. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a yea, we've got a downtown rebel 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: at present, but. 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: That's not a Briscoes and Briscoes is my jam. 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but look we are looking. But at present, 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: they landlords have got stars of their eyes at the moment. 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: So look we're looking. 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: We're like to god, is it that the landlords are 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: just charging too much? 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it's just some of the some of the 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: sites we have looked at, it's just unprofitable. I just 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: can't make any money. 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Is this is this Auckland Central? Are we talking around? 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: You know? 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: The Queen Street type areas, those kinds of places. 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: Not necessarily Queen Street, but certainly in the in the 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: adjacent streets and things we're looking at. We'd like one 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: in downtown Auckland because look, there's a lot of apartments 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 3: down there's a lot of people enjoying city living at present. 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: What about Ponsonby Road asking for a friend? 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I live nearby, that'll be handy for me as well. 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: We could meet up there. 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we could. 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: You have to. 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 3: There's a lot of smaller units there and they're individually 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: held and so it's it's hard to get you know, 52 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: a thousand square meters on the ground adjacent to one another. 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: But look, we're downtown in Wellington, we're downtown in christ Church. 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: So we've got downtowns in some of the big centers organized, 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: but but not all. Look, Hamilton's another one. You know, 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: we're only on the north side. There's still lots of 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: housing on the on the east, west and southern side 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: of Hamilton, but it's just a bit tough to get 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: the right sized and right appropriate locations. 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet now this this distribution sense that you've 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: got lined up, it sounds like a game changer. 62 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: How big is this thing going to be. 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: It's going to be about five or six times bigger 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: than we've got. It's going to be, as you say, 65 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: a game changer for us because we've lived in relatively 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: modest sized DC center in just Auckland, and so yeah, 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: we've got the the the problems of when stock comes in, 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: it's just got to go somewhere quick, so it just 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: goes into the stores, and quite frank after it's got 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: too much stock. 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: In the stores, and so and and presumably if it's 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: landing in the stores, then it's not necessarily in the 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: right store. And some stores are selling out faster than 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: they need to, truan, so it's just like you'll be 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: double handling things the whole time. 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Look, my my interest store transfer is 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: just to balance the stock up is about nine hundred 78 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year. Yeah, so that was that will 79 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: just fall off completely. Yes, that's I don't worry. Yeah, 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: the building right. 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Listen on the budget, are you is anything that you're 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: looking looking to in the budget? Anything you want out 83 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: of it? 84 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Look, I just like a couple of nice, big items 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: so I can be convinced that the company is actually 86 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: doing something and looking to achieve something. I think that 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: I think right now they're working on a lot of 88 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: fronts and trying to complete a lot of stuff at 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: one time. So I just look for some guidance from 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: them that they're they're onto something like what, well, well, 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: let me get some exclusions, you know, kepal gains tax, 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: wealth tax, you know, I think that's that's probably not 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: on their cards anyway. But I'd like to see some 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: infrastructure spending. You know, I think I notice Australias recently 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: have gone into toll roads and that sort of thing. 96 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: If the government can't afford it, and then look, someone 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: else can and there'll be a toll on it for 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: a period. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: Did I detect a hint of frustration at the government 100 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 2: in your voice before? 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Ah? Look, I thought, Look, I think I think we 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: all appreciate that the that the situation they walked into 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: was pretty ugly and they needed to do something, and 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: they needed to sit down and think about it and 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: do something sensible. But it looked like most of us, 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: it's just about time and elections rolling up not that 107 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: far away. It'd be nice to see, nice to see 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: the government kicking a few goals, and you know, that's 109 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: that's I think all of us. 110 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: Will say some significant stuff. Rod, it's always wonderful to 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: talk to you. Thank you so much. Go well. 112 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to one of your Briscos popping up nearby. 113 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: That's Rod Duke, managing director of the Brisco Group. 114 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 115 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 116 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio