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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be right.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now to talk entertainment is Chris Schultz. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Francesca. As I mentioned, we've got a bit

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Speaker 2: of a theme today with our entertainment segment, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about Golden Globe winners, really because this is such a

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Speaker 2: great time to go to the movies. There's so much

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Speaker 2: on in so many fabulous films, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: start by talking about a film called Flow, which is

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Speaker 2: quite a unique animation that one best animated feature at

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Speaker 2: the Golden Globes. Or we don't have a trailer. You

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Speaker 2: know why we don't have a trailer, right.

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Speaker 3: Because there's no audio in it. There's no one it

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Speaker 3: says a single thing. That's what everyone needs to know

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Speaker 3: about this film. There's not a single word spoken. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I found out about this film at because of its

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Speaker 3: Golden Globe when I had not heard a single thing

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Speaker 3: of it. I've heard about all the other kids films

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Speaker 3: that are on the movie s these holidays, Fusser, Silent

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Speaker 3: the Hedgehog, Paddington Iree. I've managed to miss all of those.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy about it and then we went to

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Speaker 3: flow and you know what, this is delightful. This is

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Speaker 3: just the perfect kind of kids film for me. You

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Speaker 3: get swept up in this adventure. It's about a little

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Speaker 3: black cat and they've got its eyes just right, like

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Speaker 3: it looks like every kitten you've ever owned, you know,

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Speaker 3: like they've got this cat right, and it goes on

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Speaker 3: this adventure. It's in there's a bit of climate change

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Speaker 3: get to higher ground constantly, and he this cat just

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Speaker 3: just finds a group of friends, which is what we

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Speaker 3: all want in life, right, And he goes on this

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Speaker 3: adventure with his friends. There's a lab, there's a cappy burrough,

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Speaker 3: there's a bird, there's a bunch of other dogs, and

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Speaker 3: that's kind of the film. But you just get kind

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Speaker 3: of it's kind of mesmerizing. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of background chirps and squawks and it's kind of hypnotic.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know, it just kind of sweeps

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Speaker 3: you up. My son right as fourteen years old, he's

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Speaker 3: currently watching Black Mirror on Netflix. He's been watching this

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Speaker 3: and he loved it. So want a school holiday film? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just you can sort of The animation isn't perfect, right,

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Speaker 3: This is not like a Pixar movie, and I think

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Speaker 3: this is maybe one why it took out the Golden globes.

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Speaker 3: You can sort of see the animator's fingerprints on it.

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Speaker 3: It's not perfect. You know, the dog looks a little janky.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of makes it it's more endearing because of that.

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Speaker 2: I think it looked like a beautiful fable. I've only

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Speaker 2: seen the trailer, but I'm definitely going to go and

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Speaker 2: check it out. But it looks like this fable. As

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Speaker 2: you say, this journey that you kind of get what

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Speaker 2: was that? You won't remember it, you're too young, But

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Speaker 2: there was a film that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was the.

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Speaker 2: Incredible Journey?

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Speaker 1: Was that?

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Speaker 2: Was that a book or a film about the same

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Speaker 2: sort of thing, a journey that there's animals, an animal

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Speaker 2: goes on and you kind of get caught up in it,

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Speaker 2: and there's all these little messages about life along the way.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like this one is very much about

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Speaker 2: friendship and community, you know, connection and things.

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Speaker 3: I you know, what, do you remember possing Boots?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Shrek spin off? N I remember they got

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Speaker 3: know when it cats. You've got a kitten and it's

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to get the eyes right in

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Speaker 3: There's there's moments where it's playing and you can just

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Speaker 2: It's and I think we'll see this probably. I think

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Speaker 3: Well it's different, right, Like you know, you tell someone

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Speaker 3: to go and see that? Sounds pretty strange. I don't

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Speaker 2: She's so we should cover that off. How what age

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Speaker 2: is it appropriate for? Might not? Would it probably wouldn't?

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Speaker 3: She's eleven. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's just so cute.

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Speaker 3: it's not full of like mad cap high jinks or

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Speaker 3: kind of want to know what happens next because there's

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Speaker 2: It sounds called bundles and the first time that Latvia

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Speaker 2: has won a Golden Globe, because that's where the film

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Speaker 2: is from. It's a Latvian film. So there we go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're going to listen to the trailer for another film

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Speaker 2: that Chris and I spent two hundred and fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 2: which is approximately three and a half hours watching on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday night this week. Haven't listened to this? This is

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Speaker 2: the Brutalist. These are yours?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? Are them?

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Speaker 2: Tell me?

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Speaker 1: Why is an accomplished foreign architect shoveling coll.

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Speaker 2: I'm laughing that it is not so sick. This was

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary feat of filmmaking and film watching that was

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Speaker 2: undertaken with this film. We should explain to people. So

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Speaker 2: it's about three hours thirty five minutes long. I think

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Speaker 2: it has an in built fifteen minute interval in it

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Speaker 2: is actually perfect. It's about the one forty minute mark,

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Speaker 2: and it's when you do just want to get up

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Speaker 3: I am not take snacks. I desperately needed that fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: I went straight to that popcorn bar, loaded up on snacks.

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Speaker 1: You were so funny.

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Speaker 2: You got there and you had no idea it was

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Speaker 2: did you know? Did you know? And I'm like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: were going to see an ambitious, quite audacious, irrelatively small

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at that scale is just right, Like you go

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Speaker 3: through the full range of emotions, right, I felt anger, frustration,

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Speaker 3: This is about a Jewish immigrant who flees the Holocaust

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Speaker 3: this film. But I think what this film subtly is.

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Speaker 3: the same way about architecture. It subtly just slides in

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Speaker 2: It also explores how you go through something incredibly traumatic

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Speaker 3: That's why he helps them that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they've survived, and he says, well, I

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Speaker 2: you know, they tried to exterminate me. You can't take

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Speaker 2: So you've got this, you know, you've got this human

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Speaker 3: Well, let's say you're and Brodie's talent, right, Yeah, this

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Speaker 3: Because it feels like tar right, it feels like this

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Speaker 3: also what makes it so audacious to make a three

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Speaker 2: The other thing, which I think is stunning about this

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Speaker 2: if you go into this film, this is not your

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Speaker 3: You're going to experience something you're definitely going to have

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Speaker 3: for sure. And I think that's that makes the movie

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Speaker 3: surely the goal of a movie like this is to

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Speaker 3: make you think about things and see the world differently.

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Speaker 3: And it's had that effect on me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it gave me weird dreams, very weird. It's

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Speaker 2: very weird dreams. Hey, Chris, thank you so much and

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Speaker 2: appreciate you putting the dime and effort into going and

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Speaker 2: seeing that film to talk to us about it today.

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Speaker 2: It is in cinemas this Thursday. That's the twenty third.

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Speaker 2: That was The Brutalist, the film we were talking about

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Speaker 2: when best Best Drama, I think Best Director, and picked

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be all over the Oscar

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