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Speaker 1: With Adeen Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Woods By News Talks,
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Speaker 2: Curdie Tefano and welcome to Inside Netball. Well, Dean's away
Speaker 2: this week, so we have called in our super sub
Speaker 2: former Silver Ferns coach Evon Willering, who is of course
Speaker 2: over everything when it comes to netball. Today we will
Speaker 2: be reviewing the round that was and yes I got
Speaker 2: zero from three in terms of my picks. We'll be
Speaker 2: chatting all those games, will chat how we think the
Speaker 2: two point shot is holding up. Two rounds in and
Speaker 2: we have former Silver Fern now Tactics coach Donna Wilkins
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: But first, ladies, thank god for you.
Speaker 4: Jen.
Speaker 3: You got one out of three. I got none, one out.
Speaker 4: Of three cheap. That was a great game, actually I
Speaker 4: went but all alah, you know, and what's happening with
Speaker 4: the magic I mean, you know, this is something we'll
Speaker 4: have to discuss, Yvonne.
Speaker 2: There was a lot that went down, perhaps for you,
Speaker 2: what would be a highlight or a low light for
Speaker 2: the for the round.
Speaker 5: Well, the highlight had to be the Stars Tactics game.
Speaker 5: You went to it one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed obviously watching the two coaches in action. I
Speaker 5: loved just seeing the interaction and that. But also it
Speaker 5: was a close game. Was a five point game, so
Speaker 5: I think the crowd really stayed within it. And it
Speaker 5: was a situation right at the end where I was,
Speaker 5: I look at the two points. Tactics were in a
Speaker 5: position they had to they had to go for two
Speaker 5: points because they were down by quite a number of points.
Speaker 5: They came within two in that last quarter, and I'm
Speaker 5: standing at the end looking at Stars and I have
Speaker 5: a bit of involvement with the Stars. I'm going just
Speaker 5: take the one points and that's all they needed to
Speaker 5: have a.
Speaker 4: Bit of a.
Speaker 5: Well what you're saying, you know, and they were taking
Speaker 5: the one points, and it is a time when do
Speaker 5: you take the twos and when do you take the ones?
Speaker 5: Appreciate with the twos. If you miss, the chances are
Speaker 5: going to go out of court, right or there's very
Speaker 5: solemn there is a rebound, Yes, if there's a really
Speaker 5: tall shooter in there and it's a goal attack taking it,
Speaker 5: but that hasn't been the case a lot of the time.
Speaker 5: So yep, really enjoyed that game. Not just because it
Speaker 5: was close, but because there was I mean, the Stars
Speaker 5: were without players and yet other players stood up and
Speaker 5: what was it, Lily Tokolu, No, wow, I mean the
Speaker 5: intercept she took in that game, and you know, and
Speaker 5: I look at it and I'm going, yes, some of
Speaker 5: them were creative for her, but she made the most
Speaker 5: of the opportunities.
Speaker 2: Some were also very soft passes I thought from the
Speaker 2: tact decks unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Big Diagonal spoke to Donna about that. I'm going,
Speaker 5: what is with your team? Because there are i mean tactics.
Speaker 5: You know, they're a very experienced team, and yet they
Speaker 5: didn't play what we would call straight line players. And yeah,
Speaker 5: they absolutely they gifted it, but she still went for it.
Speaker 5: And how often have we seen defensively that they haven't
Speaker 5: been doing that? And the tactics really they didn't get
Speaker 5: the intercepts that they should have got. And I think
Speaker 5: they were really nervous about Charlie Bell in the.
Speaker 2: Back, but they certainly stayed in the fight, the tactics
Speaker 2: and someone that always used to stay in the fight
Speaker 2: as their coach, Donna Wilkins.
Speaker 3: Let's chat with her now.
Speaker 1: The Inside Netball podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome Dons to Inside Netball. No, no, you've had
Speaker 2: a you're in between trainings today. You might have been
Speaker 2: a little bit of a grumpy coach after the loss
Speaker 2: over the weekend to the Stars.
Speaker 3: What was your take on that game?
Speaker 6: To be fair, I wasn't that grumpy.
Speaker 7: U's probably a little bit disappointed because we had an
Speaker 7: opportunity to go out and show what we could do
Speaker 7: and we weren't polished.
Speaker 6: We weren't polished.
Speaker 7: We you know, threw dumb passes like there was ones
Speaker 7: that would you know to receive those passes. So it's
Speaker 7: an easy fix, I believe when we watch our review
Speaker 7: process and look at the tape, you know, the girls
Speaker 7: can see actually, if I can tidy up just one thing,
Speaker 7: we were in a better spot. But all of that aside,
Speaker 7: we also had an opportunity to still win that game,
Speaker 7: and that showed the fight that we can do. So
Speaker 7: how we played in the last four or five minutes
Speaker 7: is what the challenges I guess to the tactics to
Speaker 7: bring that for every moment, not just the last five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was in just thing Don's like and the
Speaker 5: last quarter you made a comeback and Selby Record's got
Speaker 5: some really good two pointers in that and I question,
Speaker 5: when do you use your two pointers in a one
Speaker 5: point And I did hear you say from the side
Speaker 5: of the court, maybe we should have taken a one pointer.
Speaker 3: Before the two pointers.
Speaker 5: So as a coach, how do you approach each quarter
Speaker 5: the last five minutes?
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it's interesting you could you ask that, Eva,
Speaker 7: And like everyone's you know, talking up the two point shot,
Speaker 7: and I think there's a time and a place for it,
Speaker 7: and clearly, when you're down, you have to take that opportunity.
Speaker 6: And we were down going into that last five minutes.
Speaker 7: We were down ten points, so we had to do
Speaker 7: it to pire a shot two and Tina got one.
Speaker 7: But they were taking them at the right moments. And
Speaker 7: I'm not going to tell you when that right moment.
Speaker 6: I spoke to.
Speaker 7: Weirdy a little bit after our first game and then
Speaker 7: they took all ones. It's won by how many, So
Speaker 7: I'm going to keep that little bit to myself. But
Speaker 7: there is a right time in a wrong time, And
Speaker 7: I kind of thinking it's a big what if when
Speaker 7: we got to that two points, we should have gone
Speaker 7: for the one and keept that pressure on. We still
Speaker 7: had two and a half minutes and then all the
Speaker 7: pressure would have turned to the stars because we've gone
Speaker 7: from ten to one goal difference, but we didn't take
Speaker 7: that could have gone the other way when in and
Speaker 7: out I thought we had the rebound. So you know,
Speaker 7: there's always what ifs, but we do definitely have a
Speaker 7: strategy around that.
Speaker 4: So, Donna, you talk a lot about pressure. Is it
Speaker 4: harder as a coach or harder as a player.
Speaker 7: Oh, oh, it's awful as a coach because you can't
Speaker 7: do anything. Like you're sitting and you're watching it and
Speaker 7: you see these girls train so hard and what they
Speaker 7: put into it, and then for it not to click
Speaker 7: in that moment that they do with the training for
Speaker 7: when you know that they're so much better, Like we
Speaker 7: just had sloppy errors and we got no Well, we
Speaker 7: got gains, we got ball, don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 7: we didn't get intercepts and that's what we pride ourselves on.
Speaker 7: So that's where it become disappointing as a coach. But
Speaker 7: you're definitely a lot easier when you're out they're doing
Speaker 7: it yourself, then sitting and trying to give them guidelines
Speaker 7: to do what you're you know what you know that
Speaker 7: capable of.
Speaker 5: And that's one thing I really enjoyed about the game,
Speaker 5: apart from the fact out on court, but I love
Speaker 5: watching Timmy Parra and yourself, Don's, you know, as coaches,
Speaker 5: you know, when you've coached them as players and now
Speaker 5: seeing them and going welcome to the real world. And
Speaker 5: the one thing I always say to people, you can't
Speaker 5: play the game for them as much as you'd like to.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure Don's is so many decisions you've got
Speaker 2: to make to as coach. You've got Ali Bird in
Speaker 2: the circle. You've got Martina Salmon. So we saw in
Speaker 2: that game against the Stars, Bird stayed on the bench.
Speaker 2: Were you tempted to bring her on in that last quarter?
Speaker 6: Not in the last quarter.
Speaker 7: Probably a bit more tempted in the third, just to
Speaker 7: shake it up a bit and have a bit more height.
Speaker 7: Like Tina's been training hard at goal attack too, but
Speaker 7: I don't think she's quite there yet to push out.
Speaker 7: So I probably would have left to Pie there and
Speaker 7: brought Ali on, but I chose not to because my
Speaker 7: focus was, you know, we have had one quarter I
Speaker 7: think it was seventeen percent that we disrupted off their
Speaker 7: center pass. So defense was my issue and that's why
Speaker 7: you saw changes happen there. And look, it nearly worked,
Speaker 7: didn't it, bringing Paris into center to try and just
Speaker 7: be more solid as a unit defensively.
Speaker 3: Have you ever thought of maybe putting bird goal shoot,
Speaker 3: Salmon goal attack, TP, wing attack and Peterson center.
Speaker 7: Well, we would, but as you would have seen that
Speaker 7: Eric Kana rolled her ankle in that game, which wasn't helpful,
Speaker 7: so that ruled her out as the option of going
Speaker 7: to center. Look to Pie has trained a lot at
Speaker 7: wing attack. I don't know if you saw much of
Speaker 7: our pre season, but there is definitely a lineup that
Speaker 7: we have trained and we have used four quarters.
Speaker 3: Oh I quite like that one.
Speaker 4: Look, well, is it perhaps round three coming up? Is
Speaker 4: there a temptation you're playing the Magic haven't had a
Speaker 4: win yet?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: Do you think you're going to be a little complacent
Speaker 4: or no room for complacency?
Speaker 7: Well, there is no room, and maybe we were a
Speaker 7: little bit going. I'd like to think that we weren't,
Speaker 7: but maybe we were a little bit complacent coming into
Speaker 7: playing against the Stars. They had a couple injuries and
Speaker 7: I tried to stress to the girls throughout the week.
Speaker 7: They haven't lost anyone from their attacking end, right, that's
Speaker 7: their scoring end. We get just as much possession. You know,
Speaker 7: don't feel sorry for them, but maybe there was a
Speaker 7: little bit of that. So maybe they've learned and they're not.
Speaker 6: Going to be feeling sorry for the Magic. Look, you're
Speaker 6: going to remember.
Speaker 7: Magic are going to come out and they're going to
Speaker 7: hit their straps at some point. They've got talented players
Speaker 7: right throughout the court. At the moment, it's not clicking
Speaker 7: for them, but they're again playing at home, so we
Speaker 7: just can't afford to take them lightly. It's really important
Speaker 7: because we lost last week. I'm hoping that's not part
Speaker 7: of our mental site going into this one fair enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I look at it, you know, and the
Speaker 5: two point structure with the Magic the one thing it
Speaker 5: can aw sur prize herself on the long shots, and
Speaker 5: she indicated media quite a while ago. Now it's going
Speaker 5: to suit her game because she's going to get rewarded
Speaker 5: for taking it. And yet I have not seen her
Speaker 5: take that many. She has in the last quarters of games,
Speaker 5: but not sort of throughout the duration. And two is
Speaker 5: the one actually and hasn't been that successful with them
Speaker 5: and if you have a look at it and not
Speaker 5: do I mean this badly, but it's the teams that
Speaker 5: have been using the two points system are basically teams
Speaker 5: that are losing and catching up. So I'd like to
Speaker 5: see teams not just utilize it in the last quarter,
Speaker 5: but have pride in their performance and actually use it
Speaker 5: in the other quarters as well, and also work both
Speaker 5: attack and defensively on that. Is that something you're looking
Speaker 5: at or is it really very much your two points
Speaker 5: last quarter?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: No, definitely using them and it's quite interesting. I've told
Speaker 7: our shooters like Martina and Tapia are very solid from
Speaker 7: there when they want to be. But as a shooter,
Speaker 7: you need to feel it right. So I'm never going
Speaker 7: to say don't shoot it. Like if they're feeling it,
Speaker 7: go for it. But if you do not get it,
Speaker 7: you have to rebound your ball. I think both ends
Speaker 7: the rebounds are key, and you saw that with the
Speaker 7: Steel performance. We're done, got all of the offensive rebounds,
Speaker 7: Kara stythe down the other end rebounded. That's something that
Speaker 7: we need to improve on. And it hasn't just been
Speaker 7: this year issue. It's you know, I think in the
Speaker 7: previous years it's not been a strength of ours to
Speaker 7: rebound defensively, and it has been a focus. So I'm
Speaker 7: hoping that we're going to see a shift at both
Speaker 7: ends here too. So if you're getting the rebounds, you
Speaker 7: don't mind taking the Tuesday.
Speaker 2: First year coaching, don's what have you found the most
Speaker 2: challenging so far as a coach, because it's quite the
Speaker 2: switch to go for a player to coach.
Speaker 6: The challenges living in christ Church.
Speaker 7: My husband's still at home on the farms up to
Speaker 7: watch the sport every weekend. My kids are all here,
Speaker 7: so that's that's awesome light. Last night I've got to
Speaker 7: go and watch them all play basketball, so I'm around
Speaker 7: a bit more. All three of them are at the
Speaker 7: same school, so that side of it's really good. Netball
Speaker 7: twenty four to seven is a webit in tests. It's
Speaker 7: all the extra stuff. It's a meetings like were you
Speaker 7: know yesterday I went to training at ten to eight.
Speaker 7: I got out of there at hubbas three and we
Speaker 7: didn't even have a training, you know, Like it's just
Speaker 7: review and watching clips and meetings, just trying to make
Speaker 7: the athlete better, you know, and make the team better.
Speaker 7: So I think it's just all the extra stuff that
Speaker 7: goes into it.
Speaker 6: It's pretty intense.
Speaker 4: Is it what you expected?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I did expect that, but yeah, it's just it's really
Speaker 6: full on.
Speaker 7: And I think there's been moments where I've kind of asked,
Speaker 7: is this really what I want to be doing?
Speaker 6: And am I cut out for this?
Speaker 7: Like as a player, you always look to what you
Speaker 7: can do better, and I definitely did that on Sunday
Speaker 7: night and didn't get much sleep. I think it's actually
Speaker 7: worse than being a player watching the tape and you know,
Speaker 7: going through all the stats and I guess questioning whether
Speaker 7: I made the right calls, and I guess the more
Speaker 7: I do it, the more I'll grow in confidence with
Speaker 7: my decisions. But I needed to self reflect as much
Speaker 7: as the players do.
Speaker 2: So just in terms of that juggle with motherhood coaching.
Speaker 2: Being a wife, So you're living in christ Church at
Speaker 2: the moment, your kids are in christ Church, so your
Speaker 2: husband's at home in the Deep South on his own.
Speaker 2: How often are you getting down there?
Speaker 7: I've been twice since I've been in christ Church, so
Speaker 7: not very often. But we play the Steel down there
Speaker 7: soon and we get two days off afterwards, so I'll
Speaker 7: actually get home but lock he comes up and travels
Speaker 7: up here a lot, and he did last year as
Speaker 7: well when the boys were at school, but I never
Speaker 7: got that opportunity because my daughter was still going to
Speaker 7: school and goer. But yeah, he's been up here the
Speaker 7: last two weeks watching sport. He was at the Stars game,
Speaker 7: so you know, he's got quite supportive of watching netball again,
Speaker 7: which is exciting.
Speaker 6: But you just do what you've got to do, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the kids, he got any star basketballers so here.
Speaker 2: They're all pretty good on the basketball court, don's.
Speaker 6: Oh, they're not too bad. They love it.
Speaker 7: My oldest is sixteen, Cooper, and it's all about dunking
Speaker 7: apparently at the moment, so that's quite stressful.
Speaker 6: But look, they love just playing sport.
Speaker 7: Maya she plays netball and basketball, but all in the
Speaker 7: senior basketball sort of set up.
Speaker 6: I've had the middle child.
Speaker 7: Jack in a moon boot, which hasn't been fun. So
Speaker 7: we're nearly up to eight weeks. But the interesting thing
Speaker 7: he's got Leslie as his doctors. We've got some pretty
Speaker 7: good so we're going a whole life circle really, but
Speaker 7: like it's nice to be close to them, and I'm.
Speaker 6: Just enjoying being back near family in christ Church.
Speaker 2: Really, I bet Dean and I feel like we live
Speaker 2: at like radiology places X raying our kids. So I
Speaker 2: think it comes with having athletic kids.
Speaker 1: The last five on inside netball.
Speaker 2: Okay, don's just to finish, We're gonna ask you our
Speaker 2: fast five questions, so just whatever comes out. So first question,
Speaker 2: if you could have three athletes for dinner, alive or dead,
Speaker 2: who would you invite to dinner?
Speaker 7: I would have Andre Egacy, I would have Dennis Rodman,
Speaker 7: and I.
Speaker 3: Was going to say Roger must have been in there
Speaker 3: for her.
Speaker 4: If you could compete in any other sport, what would
Speaker 4: it be? Actually doesn't really count for you because you.
Speaker 7: Didall basketball, but other than basketball, had to pick another sport,
Speaker 7: it would be tennis.
Speaker 2: Quite like tennis, don't you. You're a big Australian Open fan.
Speaker 2: You'd go every year, wouldn't you. Okay, in your team
Speaker 2: and the tactics team, who would A get you into
Speaker 2: trouble and then B get you out of trouble? So firstly,
Speaker 2: who's someone that would get you into trouble?
Speaker 7: Someone that would get me into trouble in my team
Speaker 7: would probably be Peelock's Paris, I knew it. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: think someone that would get me out of trouble Paris
Speaker 7: would probably be Jane because she's a good talker.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Dane, right, okay, So now what would be
Speaker 4: your last supper meal? Now this is like if you
Speaker 4: were going to the executioners the next stage. Well, we've
Speaker 4: got to make it clear.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite if.
Speaker 4: You are not going to have another meal again on
Speaker 4: this earth?
Speaker 6: It would have to be a steak, like a beef filet.
Speaker 6: I fell at steak. You know, I'm on the farm.
Speaker 7: The farm married me. But it doesn't matter what's with it.
Speaker 7: But it would have to be a steak.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 2: And lastly, Don's best piece of advice you've ever been given.
Speaker 7: Just enjoy things and to keep enjoying it. And if
Speaker 7: you're not enjoying it, it's time to.
Speaker 3: Stop love it.
Speaker 2: Oh well, we hope you enjoy your game this weekend
Speaker 2: against the Magic. We'll we are certainly looking with great interest.
Speaker 2: Thanks heaps, Don's.
Speaker 5: Thanks, catch up, cheers, Don up inside Nedball on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Inside that Ball.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll always lovely to hear from Donna Wilkins. Nothing
Speaker 2: like a good steak from the farm. We've had some
Speaker 2: interesting glass supper meal. Haven't had a stake yet, so no.
Speaker 4: And but we did have who was it spag bowl
Speaker 4: or something from somebody, but you know, each to their own.
Speaker 3: Taco Bell.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's talk about the first game, the tech. Well,
Speaker 2: let's let's go Stars tactics first is coming off chatting
Speaker 2: to Don's It was a tough week for the Stars.
Speaker 2: They went through those three injuries. Of course, it was
Speaker 2: great to see Bell back on the court, but no
Speaker 2: agreea Saint Claire, no Kate Burley. Then they had the
Speaker 2: death of Leanna Dubray's brother, so it wasn't just the injury,
Speaker 2: so massive amount of adversity. You've got to give them
Speaker 2: some credit the mental fortitude to come through the week
Speaker 2: that they had and play the game they did. Yvonne, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I mean you were involved a little bit in their
Speaker 2: preparation during the week.
Speaker 3: What was your take on that that game?
Speaker 5: Yeah, mainly I was there to support the coaches to
Speaker 5: be fair, you know, And yeah, I found out about
Speaker 5: Leanna's brother, and so yeah, I was there to support
Speaker 5: her as well. And what I enjoyed with him is
Speaker 5: that the team just really united as a group. How
Speaker 5: did they win that game. It's because they played it
Speaker 5: as a team and they played it smart, you know,
Speaker 5: and you can say, well, we did it for these
Speaker 5: you know, these people now at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: it was about their own individual performance and also the
Speaker 5: collective unit. And you know, I think Donald.
Speaker 4: Also alluded to it.
Speaker 5: You know, Tactics might have taken them a little bit lightly,
Speaker 5: you know, because they're a very experienced team, and yeah,
Speaker 5: and Starts just really took it to them. They Tactics
Speaker 5: won the last quarter, and that's why I asked about
Speaker 5: the two point structure. They won that last quarter fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 5: But it's really interesting because in that last quarter, again
Speaker 5: I thought Stars played it smart because in that last quarter,
Speaker 5: they slowed the ball down when they had ball in hand.
Speaker 5: They didn't need to score points. They were leading by
Speaker 5: three or four at that time, so they have to
Speaker 5: try to keep the ball in hand to avoid obviously
Speaker 5: Tactics getting it within the last five minutes. So you know,
Speaker 5: that two point structure isn't just about nailing two pointers.
Speaker 5: It's also about how you play that last five minutes.
Speaker 5: And I thought that that certainly Stars played that really well.
Speaker 5: They deserve the win. Defensively, they got some really good
Speaker 5: ball and on attack, Charlie Bell in particular, I thought,
Speaker 5: really stood up, you know, and yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 5: a shooter is on form and they're really wanting it,
Speaker 5: you're going to play the ball through played it short
Speaker 5: as well on attack. So therefore Watson basically never had
Speaker 5: a chance to get the ball, you know, and neither
Speaker 5: well none of the whole defensive unit.
Speaker 3: In the ended Charlie Bell has been a good fine
Speaker 3: for the Stars.
Speaker 4: Oh she has, and I thought, no, who is this person?
Speaker 4: But as a spectacle that game, I just loved it.
Speaker 4: In fact, it was the game of the season. Now
Speaker 4: I know it had two, but it was the game
Speaker 4: of the season and it was because it was so exciting.
Speaker 4: It sort of built and built and built, and to me,
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great example of why we
Speaker 4: needed the two point shot, because I found myself looking
Speaker 4: at the clock and thinking, oh, you know, only a
Speaker 4: few more minutes ago until we got down to that
Speaker 4: last five minutes. So the other player I would love
Speaker 4: to meet, Tory Colossi in the mid court for the Stars,
Speaker 4: played the whole game, just delivered all the time. So yeah, look,
Speaker 4: it was fabulous.
Speaker 2: Mela playing a hundred games, was solid in the middle.
Speaker 2: They really do need her, don't they. And I said
Speaker 2: it last week, I'm really enjoying when Wilson comes on
Speaker 2: for her cameos at goal attack, fault mat ads. It
Speaker 2: adds a slight difference. But really impressed with the Stars.
Speaker 2: If we look at the tactics, what's going wrong? Because
Speaker 2: to me, Evon they looked very disjointed, and I think
Speaker 2: on attack their mid court, the connections from the mid
Speaker 2: court into their shooters is not firing. Burger and Watson
Speaker 2: They're not there. Are they not there at the moment
Speaker 2: that's going on down the defense end?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you would never normally subne substitutions there. And
Speaker 5: they look they were found wanting absolutely And you could
Speaker 5: say it's because of the tall player in the back night.
Speaker 5: I don't buy that one, because you can take the
Speaker 5: ball a lot earlier. Burger should be out hunting for those,
Speaker 5: even as a goal offense out hunting and I think
Speaker 5: at times they really pegged. They stayed right back in
Speaker 5: the circle. I'm going, you know, that's something you did
Speaker 5: a long time ago. I thought, you know, yeah, they
Speaker 5: must look at that and have a look why did
Speaker 5: we not get intercepts? And you have a look at
Speaker 5: it in any team that is winning, and we've only
Speaker 5: had two rounds, but you know, it is about also
Speaker 5: gaining intercept obviously making the most of your opportunities. But yeah,
Speaker 5: as a whole defensive unit, they're not there, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's going right back from the mid court all
Speaker 5: the way down and yeah, they just looked really disjointed,
Speaker 5: like like you said, you know, and even in that
Speaker 5: last quarter when they had the fight back, I always
Speaker 5: felt the Stars were in control of that game.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Interesting actually, because when you think back to round one
Speaker 4: when they playing the Steel, they were only i mean
Speaker 4: it was up by one goal of the tactics going
Speaker 4: into that final call. Then they got their act together
Speaker 4: and you just thought, ah, yes, here's.
Speaker 3: The but they had to fight for that one.
Speaker 4: They but I mean, that fight seemed to have gone.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure, you know, Donald Wilkins will be working
Speaker 4: on them.
Speaker 3: Well, I quite like you know what I said to Don.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Pale, put the bird at the back, You've got
Speaker 2: Sam and at cole attack. Put the height of tp
Speaker 2: in and Peterson and at center I think that's that's
Speaker 2: certainly an option that will be watching that she could
Speaker 2: do going forward. Okay, the next game, let's talk the
Speaker 2: Mystic's Pulse. Well, me and a Dane, we packed the Pulse,
Speaker 2: especially after that great first round performance in Palmistan North
Speaker 2: and then it just sort of capitulated the mistakes. They
Speaker 2: are going good guns, Jean.
Speaker 1: Well, is this the true Pulse?
Speaker 4: Because you know, the Pulse beat the Magic easily in
Speaker 4: round one, But now you know we've seen another very
Speaker 4: similar performance from the Magic. So are they not the
Speaker 4: team that perhaps we thought they were. Well, I know
Speaker 4: we spoke the other day about this. I love that
Speaker 4: game and because I was there as a spectator and
Speaker 4: it was well, I just it was great. I loved
Speaker 4: sitting at one end and looking down the court and
Speaker 4: watching those balls of petitoya a fly everywhere after the
Speaker 4: little head nod. I yeah, no, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: So what do you think is going on wrong with
Speaker 3: the Pulse.
Speaker 5: Honestly, in that first week, the Pulse played well. Yes,
Speaker 5: you can also say you're a Magic made not have
Speaker 5: but they were a team that utilized what I would
Speaker 5: call the two point. Well, you know when they made
Speaker 5: the substitution, and not just in the last quarter. They
Speaker 5: did early on Marlisla came on from instead of Matuile
Speaker 5: and then really shot them and we know that you
Speaker 5: can shoot them, right, And I thought, yep, this is
Speaker 5: a total team, you know. Coach came out in the
Speaker 5: coach's box and I was really excited by it all.
Speaker 5: And so when this game suddenly comes out on your
Speaker 5: you know, Mystics won the previous week, but it was
Speaker 5: an okay performance. It wasn't a brilliant performance. So I thought, yeah,
Speaker 5: I actually pecked the Pulse to win this one. So
Speaker 5: really surprised about that. And what I was really looking
Speaker 5: forward to was the versus Jackson, you know, to have
Speaker 5: that hype factor, just to see how it works totally
Speaker 5: different to you know, to Grace Neweki in the fact,
Speaker 5: well she's got such elevation, Walum tends to be a
Speaker 5: little bit more of a holding shooter, so I thought,
Speaker 5: be really interesting to see that. Well Walm you know,
Speaker 5: she won that battle absolutely, and there was very few
Speaker 5: intercepts taken by the Pulse, you know, and I looked
Speaker 5: at that and I'm going, there's Mystics that good. They
Speaker 5: won that second quarter of something like sixteen to nine,
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm going in our game, now, yeah,
Speaker 5: are we getting like you have a look at it?
Speaker 5: When suddenly you get the big boom for the last
Speaker 5: five minutes? Are our team starting to panic? There's a
Speaker 5: lot of ball being thrown around, and appreciate the more
Speaker 5: it's thrown around, the more chance of an intercept. And
Speaker 5: I'm going just get on with it. At the end
Speaker 5: of the day. It's a long shot, but it's a
Speaker 5: long shot.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: If it goes out, you know, then it's generally speaking,
Speaker 5: it's the opposition's ball. Would you normally take the long
Speaker 5: shots in a type testing game? Problem? Not?
Speaker 2: The fact that you know they only got nine in
Speaker 2: that quart of the pulse to me suggests so for me,
Speaker 2: I think there's a real problem down that attack, in
Speaker 2: that goal attack position. You know, we've seen the mixing
Speaker 2: Matudo and Molly Sella. I don't think they've really nailed
Speaker 2: who's going to be playing six sixty minutes.
Speaker 3: Who's the fittest. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wormsley hasn't quite taken control of that goalship, which is
Speaker 2: a worry. We don't have Grace is she a comtruder
Speaker 2: for the Firns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was interesting there though, Wormsley, she took a
Speaker 5: lot of ball when she was going out of court
Speaker 5: and just to her her balance wasn't there, And when
Speaker 5: she's good on the bellet, no, she hasn't. But I
Speaker 5: thought she was getting better, yes, you know, but now
Speaker 5: she got the ball she didn't even like when she turned.
Speaker 5: At least have an attempt to give it to your
Speaker 5: own team. But that was just a wayward passing ninety
Speaker 5: percent of the time, if not more, the opposition got it.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 5: I looked at that and going, yeah, they actually love
Speaker 5: of soft turnovers in that game.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the mystics then, because down the
Speaker 2: defense end, Catherine h Oh, I mean, nine games, super impressive.
Speaker 2: What I want to ask is, do you think she's
Speaker 2: got a future in that gold offense position? For the
Speaker 2: silver offense if we're thinking succession plan, you know, Jane
Speaker 2: Watson's not going to be there forever, if Berger is
Speaker 2: going to be across twins. Oh, you're you're looking at
Speaker 2: me like you know something.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, but there's quite a few players actually,
Speaker 5: I mean I love seeing encircled defense anyway, at the
Speaker 5: best of times. But you also got stife and I'm
Speaker 5: sure we're going to be talking about her as well.
Speaker 5: You know, I look at her and boy has she
Speaker 5: benefited from leaving the listics and going you know, just
Speaker 5: still main reason she's now a starling player. What I
Speaker 5: loved about her is that she was so dominant in there.
Speaker 5: Catherine Hall is getting her opportunities and she's making the
Speaker 5: most of the opportunities. So yeah, I think we still
Speaker 5: need a little bit more time, give me a couple
Speaker 5: more rounds before I make any decisions with regard to that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean some of our experienced players are
Speaker 5: not around at the moment or are not performing to
Speaker 5: the best. So yeah, opportunities fathers to get in there.
Speaker 2: Peter Toyava, it's just two rounds, Gene and being impressive.
Speaker 4: Impressive as ever. But just before we well we're not
Speaker 4: going to leave the misstress. But do we need a
Speaker 4: bit more ras mataz for when the five we move
Speaker 4: in to that five point zone not five point two
Speaker 4: point zone?
Speaker 3: In terms of what rasmetas.
Speaker 4: Like music, Yeah, like I sort of wouldn't. I was
Speaker 4: the game I did on Sunday, It was oh oh
Speaker 4: look it's it's you.
Speaker 2: Know, we had a bit of Kenny Rodgers Islands in
Speaker 2: the Stream in Glowbox Arena.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but people were complaining, yeah, because the music was
Speaker 5: so loud, couldn't hear the umpires.
Speaker 2: There you go, keep everybody well, yeah, I thought mistakes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: impressive Catherine Hall Boy, she's certainly one to watch. And yeah,
Speaker 2: Peter is just delivering every week, so she must be
Speaker 2: on Noling Cudo's radar when you thinks of offense selections
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 5: What's interesting with her is that we used to always say, oh,
Speaker 5: she had the huge target, right, it's not grace and
Speaker 5: a wiki. But now she's got to actually feed it
Speaker 5: pretty well into the space and she's doing that brilliantly.
Speaker 5: I totally agree with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. And the last game Who Magic Steel. Now
Speaker 3: this was a tough one because I.
Speaker 2: Went down Trottedd down to Hamilton Globox Arena thinking that
Speaker 2: the Magic we're going to win and by Gollie gosh,
Speaker 2: twenty eight goal hiding Magic were just out of sorts.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much to fix, but for me
Speaker 2: in particular, and I was watching her quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Tuy love how athletics she is loved the combination that
Speaker 2: her and Echinasio made last year. For one, I'm disappointed
Speaker 2: that they haven't continued on what they started last year,
Speaker 2: and they've gone backwards.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, this Magic side, we're really contesting and
Speaker 2: challenging some of the top teams last year, and I thought, great,
Speaker 2: they'll keep moving forward. Well, for me, it feels like
Speaker 2: they've gone backwards. TWOI at times when I watched her Evan,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, she goes on the body too much,
Speaker 2: and you're turning and the middies don't know where to
Speaker 2: pass it because she's not creating any space, she's not
Speaker 2: pulling a defender in the Echinasia didn't know where to go.
Speaker 2: So for me, I thought a lot of the problem
Speaker 2: was actually her, which could be an easy fix because
Speaker 2: she's fast, she's athletic. Once she gets her feet moving,
Speaker 2: that will help.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just mentioned and she's fast, so why
Speaker 5: is she going onto the body? You know, and she's not.
Speaker 5: She'd never be what I would call a holding shooter
Speaker 5: at all. So yeah, I agree with you, that's it
Speaker 5: should be an easy fix. But there's obviously a few
Speaker 5: other other things going on with that team at the
Speaker 5: moment and yeah, that's so disjointed and just making substitutions
Speaker 5: isn't the answer, you know, And I agree like they
Speaker 5: should have moved on from last year. I think, well
Speaker 5: they basically very stable team as they had from last year.
Speaker 5: So you look at that and going what's going on?
Speaker 5: Then you've got your Econacio factor who actually in the
Speaker 5: media and that's why I can talk about it. It
Speaker 5: has indicated yay, I'm a long range shooter and she's
Speaker 5: brilliant and she's a wonderful long shoot it. And yet
Speaker 5: we do not see her taking that many unless it
Speaker 5: is in that last quarter. And I'm going, you should
Speaker 5: be the dominan two pointer, not too he and too
Speaker 5: he kept it going. She can jump age could, but
Speaker 5: then there shouldn't be a rebound because I really rate
Speaker 5: the announced you to get the ball in.
Speaker 4: That's right, But also what's going on in the mid court.
Speaker 4: Clara O'Brien, I mean, I'm a bit of a fan,
Speaker 4: but silver Fern twenty five minutes is I don't know.
Speaker 4: And you know, Reagan de Bono, who last year was
Speaker 4: was a bit part player, and I think you know,
Speaker 4: it's probably where she is or where she should be,
Speaker 4: you know, thirty nine minutes. So I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm glad, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I thought actually when DeBono came on, she actually did
Speaker 2: let it go quicker into the space. I felt she
Speaker 2: did actually make a bit of a difference. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that there's there's disconnect everywhere between the mid court.
Speaker 2: They were kind of getting it down just to the
Speaker 2: top of that goal circle and then it would just
Speaker 2: there was nothing but defensively chasing.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say defensively exactly. They were just chasing
Speaker 5: players and toil In particularly, I rate her because she
Speaker 5: goes out for intercept and how many did they get.
Speaker 5: I think they got one in the end. You know,
Speaker 5: well in sixty more game, you are kidding me. So yeah,
Speaker 5: unless you're getting balled defensively, you're going to be in trouble.
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying. They are disconnected at the moment.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's not just about making substitutions. And that's
Speaker 5: something as a coach you go, you know, is that
Speaker 5: what I have to do? And at the moment, that's
Speaker 5: what they have to do. But it isn't working for them,
Speaker 5: and that right now they just need to go back
Speaker 5: and say, listen, as a collective unit, what is you know,
Speaker 5: what are we really strong at? And let's just put
Speaker 5: that out on court. So do you have to give
Speaker 5: credit to the steal? I mean plutely, I mean cheap is.
Speaker 4: Sixty nine goals and that final quarter nineteen to seven.
Speaker 3: And Done got fifty four of that.
Speaker 2: You know, she put up fifty four goals two were
Speaker 2: you only put up twenty four. Now that's just a
Speaker 2: sign of how well they easy they could connect with Done.
Speaker 2: I've always said this, Done she could have been an
Speaker 2: amazing silver firm. When she plays, well, boy, she's pretty unstoppable.
Speaker 2: But she's just ebbs and ebbs and flowed as a player.
Speaker 2: Hasn't been Fit's open enough? Yeah sometimes fitness she never
Speaker 2: passed you. What I found interesting about Steele, and what
Speaker 2: I thought was.
Speaker 5: Really good, is that they actually won the game not
Speaker 5: utilizing two points. If you have a look at it,
Speaker 5: they would have actually gone further ahead if the Magic
Speaker 5: hadn't scored those two pointers in that last quarter. So
Speaker 5: I looked at that game and I'm going, oh, Steel
Speaker 5: is just progressing from every quarter played first quarter nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty to them last quarter nineteen seven. No excuse for that,
Speaker 5: but give it to them and the player of the game.
Speaker 5: And I said it throughout and luckily she while was
Speaker 5: play her at a game was steife. I mean, she
Speaker 5: came through for interceptions, and I mentioned earlier, you know
Speaker 5: what I liked about her is that she has just
Speaker 5: taken it on board. She's really working that whole defensive
Speaker 5: circle and she's not just talking about it, she's actually
Speaker 5: doing it with actions and not just defensively. She's also
Speaker 5: making sure that once she gets the intercept that it
Speaker 5: travels down court. So yeah, I thought that was a
Speaker 5: pretty good performance by still considering don't forget Kate heffern
Speaker 5: And still out and Lawson last minute was also out
Speaker 5: of the team. So another team that has been without
Speaker 5: some really important players. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Added to that, Fru got you know, every member of
Speaker 4: her of whom team on, which is pretty good. Also
Speaker 4: got to mention kenye Lee Monroe Nonora has just come
Speaker 4: into the squad. She got what just about the whole
Speaker 4: game forty six minutes, so you know, obviously they are
Speaker 4: doing nicely with Wendy Frew and Leana Liota.
Speaker 3: Fru's crew crewe hashtag FRUS crew.
Speaker 2: I think the leadership of POI is going to be massive,
Speaker 2: and that side she she's a player for me that's
Speaker 2: really come on. I think just only only in the
Speaker 2: last probably year, I reckon she's made a real shift.
Speaker 2: For a long time, she was kind of there all thereabouts,
Speaker 2: but she got in the fans last year and she's
Speaker 2: really made the most of your opportunity. And you watch
Speaker 2: her play. She involves herself in every pass. She likes
Speaker 2: to get every second ball, and she's a little bit
Speaker 2: bubbyish kind of at times. I look at her and go, well,
Speaker 2: that's theather lines Bubby would run. She's fit, I think.
Speaker 2: And as you say, you bring in Heifen, and I reckon,
Speaker 2: they'll move Poy back to wing attack, put Heafen and
Speaker 2: that's what I would do. Hefen in the center, and
Speaker 2: that'll be a team that will challenge some of the
Speaker 2: big ones.
Speaker 4: Can I change my picks now?
Speaker 5: You imagine the speed that's going to happen through that
Speaker 5: mid court. But I also like with Steel though, and
Speaker 5: again I now go back to the coaches. Is Wendy
Speaker 5: Freu and Leana Liosha. That is a really I think
Speaker 5: that's a really good combination, Wendy fru is starting to
Speaker 5: bring back that steel, that sting, that mentality of the South,
Speaker 5: you know. And she said in it, you know, keep going,
Speaker 5: you know, we want to you know, it's not just
Speaker 5: about the win. We want to also put in the performance.
Speaker 5: And Leana I really rated her with the England team
Speaker 5: when she came up with them, not just in how
Speaker 5: they performed, but just what she had to say to
Speaker 5: them during the breaks. And I look at that Steel
Speaker 5: team and they say, sometimes it may not be pretty,
Speaker 5: it may be boring. I'm going, oh, that's words we've
Speaker 5: heard in the past, and it's really working for them.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so yeah, I'm sure you're going to change
Speaker 5: your pics next week.
Speaker 4: I want to I shall stick with the mystics, even
Speaker 4: though I did say they're going to be third.
Speaker 2: But we need to have confidence that these teams will
Speaker 2: come good. Well, let's look at other international news in
Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Let's head across the tesman.
Speaker 2: Simon mckinnis wonderful player. I played against her for most
Speaker 2: of my career.
Speaker 4: Could you keep up with the boy?
Speaker 3: She was hard.
Speaker 2: Someone that was so she's quite little, but she's she's fast,
Speaker 2: and she's strong, and she would just yeah, get the
Speaker 2: ball off me.
Speaker 3: And it was just like, oh, get away from me.
Speaker 4: Someone.
Speaker 3: She was an amazing wing defense.
Speaker 2: She's been the coach of the Vixens for what thirteen years,
Speaker 2: is stepping down at the end of the year, so that's.
Speaker 3: Who's going to be replacing her. Bit of talk.
Speaker 4: I just I just remember when we were the A
Speaker 4: and Z Championship was, you know, and we were you know,
Speaker 4: we would cross over and I'd go and I went
Speaker 4: out to introduce myself and oh my god, she nearly
Speaker 4: crushed my hand. But I thought, oh, but I don't know. Look,
Speaker 4: they say, well, are you going to retire?
Speaker 5: They say, yeah, I know reasonably. Well, yes, I've coached
Speaker 5: a little bit with her. I did with the Vixen's
Speaker 5: years and years ago. Yeah. I went over there and
Speaker 5: also met her at at Norma's eightieth, which was really interesting.
Speaker 5: So and I listened to her then and I'm going, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know where you're coming from right
Speaker 5: now as to where she sits and appreciate coaching has changed,
Speaker 5: your philosophy stay the same, but it's quite well, you know,
Speaker 5: the word player's sender coaching now, so the players have
Speaker 5: a lot of involvement with the whole thing, and I
Speaker 5: think she's at a time now and enjoyment factor came
Speaker 5: into as well. I'm not saying it's not enjoying what
Speaker 5: she's doing now, but she believes in the way she
Speaker 5: has done it, it's not working for them at the moment,
Speaker 5: and so she's taking now the stance to say, listen,
Speaker 5: you know, it is time for me to go. Whether
Speaker 5: she wanted to actually nail state it to the media
Speaker 5: right now, who knows. But it makes sense to start,
Speaker 5: obviously now looking for another coach and you know, let's
Speaker 5: just really work together to finish the season off and boys,
Speaker 5: some of the people that are coming out of the
Speaker 5: wood works right now. But I'd like to think it
Speaker 5: would go to someone a bit like here, you know,
Speaker 5: not necessary, younger person. We need experience, absolutely, but someone
Speaker 5: that is going to come through in a pathway for
Speaker 5: a period of time.
Speaker 3: Dylan is it next hip? Yes, the Swifts. He was
Speaker 3: a name that was touted.
Speaker 2: But I just love the interview that someone said, because
Speaker 2: that's sitting at the bottom second of the boss the
Speaker 2: ladder of the Sun Corp. And she just said at
Speaker 2: the end of the day she said, I think we
Speaker 2: just need to go to the pub times when you're losing.
Speaker 2: That's the best thing to do as a team, to
Speaker 2: go the pub. But a bit of team bonding at
Speaker 2: the pub. She was always good fun someone as well
Speaker 2: in Teams ninety five World Cup. I remember when we lost.
Speaker 2: We lost to South Africa, didn't we didn't even make
Speaker 2: the final that year. The fans and I remember seeing
Speaker 2: the Australians having the gold medals around the necks and
Speaker 2: partying big time and someone was in there with cath Harvey, William,
Speaker 2: Carissa Delwood Tombs. So she's always been been good fun.
Speaker 2: So hopefully she went to the pub this week and
Speaker 2: had a good catch up with her team and the
Speaker 2: swift stend, the Grace effect continues.
Speaker 4: They're not lost, they have not lost, but I have
Speaker 4: I've been what I think, I've watched every game, but
Speaker 4: it's not just no wiky effect. Oh my goodness, that
Speaker 4: team is humming. I mean, how's being wiki Almost like
Speaker 4: a dream combination. I mean, whoa, and you've got a salute.
Speaker 4: The woman at the other end of the court, Sarah Klow.
Speaker 4: I've never seen her play so well I've never liked her,
Speaker 4: I have to say, only because she's fierce and she
Speaker 4: looks you know, always very aggressive. But that team.
Speaker 3: Goalkeepers do from Australia, just be fair.
Speaker 4: And the other one who probably actually the whole team,
Speaker 4: you know, Briani Akle has just you know, got them humming.
Speaker 4: And I have to say, Madame is there every game. Well,
Speaker 4: you can't miss her. She's sitting there and thinking, oh,
Speaker 4: now I wonder what's going on here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, because I thought, oh no, you'll sit
Speaker 5: behind the bench. You know, I have a bit of
Speaker 5: a problem with her actually being on the bench. But yeah, no,
Speaker 5: she's happily involved myself. Is it just because of the
Speaker 5: Grace Noirky effect? But no, no, no, she's smart because
Speaker 5: she's citing all these other teams in action as well.
Speaker 5: I mean, let's keep all this in perspective. It isn't
Speaker 5: just about her helping them and indirectly and this is internationally.
Speaker 5: Don't forget that You've got English players and your Jamaicans
Speaker 5: there as well. So she's citing everything from over there,
Speaker 5: you know. And we talk often about the Grace Nowiki effect.
Speaker 5: You know, is she going to be available while I
Speaker 5: think read this, you know, just watch the space really
Speaker 5: because at the moment, can we do without it? And
Speaker 5: you indicated that as warms, you're going to be our
Speaker 5: next you know. And I'm not no disrespect to her,
Speaker 5: but you know, do we need grace Nowiki, well Swifts do.
Speaker 3: So the answer is yet, we certainly do. I love
Speaker 3: during the week she was cultured.
Speaker 2: She cultured that her Swifts players by introducing fijoas to
Speaker 2: them and it was if you'n't seen them on the socials,
Speaker 2: some of them have never eaten a fijour.
Speaker 3: Before and wow, very fat.
Speaker 2: With overwhelming consensus I think was that they were Okay,
Speaker 2: I like the fis. So she's yeah, doing some good
Speaker 2: stuff over there. Okay, before we go, let's just quickly
Speaker 2: locked around three quick picks. So firstly, Stars up against Pulse.
Speaker 2: Who are we going?
Speaker 3: I'm going to go.
Speaker 2: I'm going to think that the Pulse are going to
Speaker 2: come good because they can't play two weeks badly in
Speaker 2: a row.
Speaker 4: I think, right, well, ask the Stars.
Speaker 3: My confidence has really taken a hit here.
Speaker 4: You've got to be strong in it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be strong and go the Pulse. Yvonne,
Speaker 2: what are you going to do. Oh so yeah, that's quite.
Speaker 5: That is a really hard one.
Speaker 4: It honestly is.
Speaker 5: I mean, I if you look from the weeks just
Speaker 5: being i'd say Stars, yeah, you know, and you can
Speaker 5: say they're recovering. No, they showed themselves what they can do.
Speaker 5: You know, are are the poles going to make the
Speaker 5: same mistakes?
Speaker 4: But the cross I'm going to.
Speaker 2: I changed, okay with Stars, any gen Stars, Stars.
Speaker 3: Magic, tactics.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely going tactics, tactics, tactics and steal mystics. I
Speaker 2: think this will be a good game, yes, Internedin, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to go mistakes me too.
Speaker 4: Oh, we're all going the same way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're going to keep that in perspective,
Speaker 5: and you know it has Mystics played at their best,
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think they have. And
Speaker 5: so yeah, i'd be expecting them to win. And this
Speaker 5: home court advantage, it's not there really anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's hope I can at least get one
Speaker 2: peck this this this way. Well that's it from us
Speaker 2: for another week. Plenty of good Nettie chat today, and
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