WEBVTT - Donna Wilkins opens up about coaching pressures 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.080 Inside, therefore getting you closer to the game you love. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.160 With Adeen Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Woods By News Talks, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:08.480 I'd be. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.160 Curdie Tefano and welcome to Inside Netball. Well, Dean's away 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.400 this week, so we have called in our super sub 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.680 former Silver Ferns coach Evon Willering, who is of course 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.680 over everything when it comes to netball. Today we will 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.760 be reviewing the round that was and yes I got 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.320 zero from three in terms of my picks. We'll be 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.800 chatting all those games, will chat how we think the 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.199 two point shot is holding up. Two rounds in and 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.440 we have former Silver Fern now Tactics coach Donna Wilkins 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:36.160 on the show. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.280 But first, ladies, thank god for you. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:38.600 Jen. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.760 You got one out of three. I got none, one out. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.600 Of three cheap. That was a great game, actually I 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.720 went but all alah, you know, and what's happening with 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.400 the magic I mean, you know, this is something we'll 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:51.640 have to discuss, Yvonne. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.479 There was a lot that went down, perhaps for you, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.640 what would be a highlight or a low light for 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.000 the for the round. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.440 Well, the highlight had to be the Stars Tactics game. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:00.960 You went to it one. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:01.360 Yeah. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.600 I enjoyed obviously watching the two coaches in action. I 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.600 loved just seeing the interaction and that. But also it 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.160 was a close game. Was a five point game, so 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.399 I think the crowd really stayed within it. And it 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.520 was a situation right at the end where I was, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.080 I look at the two points. Tactics were in a 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.280 position they had to they had to go for two 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.199 points because they were down by quite a number of points. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.200 They came within two in that last quarter, and I'm 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.679 standing at the end looking at Stars and I have 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.720 a bit of involvement with the Stars. I'm going just 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.880 take the one points and that's all they needed to 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:34.240 have a. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:34.440 Bit of a. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.720 Well what you're saying, you know, and they were taking 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.000 the one points, and it is a time when do 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.959 you take the twos and when do you take the ones? 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.680 Appreciate with the twos. If you miss, the chances are 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.200 going to go out of court, right or there's very 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.800 solemn there is a rebound, Yes, if there's a really 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.280 tall shooter in there and it's a goal attack taking it, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.800 but that hasn't been the case a lot of the time. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.160 So yep, really enjoyed that game. Not just because it 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.920 was close, but because there was I mean, the Stars 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.079 were without players and yet other players stood up and 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.880 what was it, Lily Tokolu, No, wow, I mean the 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.280 intercept she took in that game, and you know, and 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.160 I look at it and I'm going, yes, some of 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.560 them were creative for her, but she made the most 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:21.560 of the opportunities. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.360 Some were also very soft passes I thought from the 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:25.680 tact decks unbelievable. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.639 Yeah, the Big Diagonal spoke to Donna about that. I'm going, 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.720 what is with your team? Because there are i mean tactics. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.720 You know, they're a very experienced team, and yet they 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.560 didn't play what we would call straight line players. And yeah, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.320 they absolutely they gifted it, but she still went for it. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.320 And how often have we seen defensively that they haven't 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.320 been doing that? And the tactics really they didn't get 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.639 the intercepts that they should have got. And I think 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.160 they were really nervous about Charlie Bell in the. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.880 Back, but they certainly stayed in the fight, the tactics 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.520 and someone that always used to stay in the fight 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.919 as their coach, Donna Wilkins. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.120 Let's chat with her now. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.400 The Inside Netball podcast. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.680 Well, welcome Dons to Inside Netball. No, no, you've had 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.200 a you're in between trainings today. You might have been 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.959 a little bit of a grumpy coach after the loss 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.000 over the weekend to the Stars. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:13.600 What was your take on that game? 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.520 To be fair, I wasn't that grumpy. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.600 U's probably a little bit disappointed because we had an 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.760 opportunity to go out and show what we could do 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.079 and we weren't polished. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.080 We weren't polished. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.320 We you know, threw dumb passes like there was ones 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.960 that would you know to receive those passes. So it's 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.440 an easy fix, I believe when we watch our review 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.880 process and look at the tape, you know, the girls 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.320 can see actually, if I can tidy up just one thing, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.840 we were in a better spot. But all of that aside, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.160 we also had an opportunity to still win that game, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.040 and that showed the fight that we can do. So 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.160 how we played in the last four or five minutes 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.560 is what the challenges I guess to the tactics to 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.360 bring that for every moment, not just the last five. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.840 Yeah, it was in just thing Don's like and the 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.440 last quarter you made a comeback and Selby Record's got 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.320 some really good two pointers in that and I question, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.839 when do you use your two pointers in a one 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.400 point And I did hear you say from the side 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.279 of the court, maybe we should have taken a one pointer. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.080 Before the two pointers. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.640 So as a coach, how do you approach each quarter 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.280 the last five minutes? 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.120 Yeah, look, it's interesting you could you ask that, Eva, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.640 And like everyone's you know, talking up the two point shot, 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.520 and I think there's a time and a place for it, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.000 and clearly, when you're down, you have to take that opportunity. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.479 And we were down going into that last five minutes. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.440 We were down ten points, so we had to do 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.719 it to pire a shot two and Tina got one. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.000 But they were taking them at the right moments. And 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.839 I'm not going to tell you when that right moment. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:49.000 I spoke to. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.200 Weirdy a little bit after our first game and then 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.560 they took all ones. It's won by how many, So 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.120 I'm going to keep that little bit to myself. But 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.240 there is a right time in a wrong time, And 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.400 I kind of thinking it's a big what if when 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.360 we got to that two points, we should have gone 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.680 for the one and keept that pressure on. We still 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.200 had two and a half minutes and then all the 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.360 pressure would have turned to the stars because we've gone 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.080 from ten to one goal difference, but we didn't take 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.120 that could have gone the other way when in and 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.560 out I thought we had the rebound. So you know, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.279 there's always what ifs, but we do definitely have a 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:21.159 strategy around that. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.880 So, Donna, you talk a lot about pressure. Is it 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.200 harder as a coach or harder as a player. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.760 Oh, oh, it's awful as a coach because you can't 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.919 do anything. Like you're sitting and you're watching it and 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.960 you see these girls train so hard and what they 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.360 put into it, and then for it not to click 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.479 in that moment that they do with the training for 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.080 when you know that they're so much better, Like we 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.960 just had sloppy errors and we got no Well, we 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.159 got gains, we got ball, don't get me wrong, but 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.560 we didn't get intercepts and that's what we pride ourselves on. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.719 So that's where it become disappointing as a coach. But 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.479 you're definitely a lot easier when you're out they're doing 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.680 it yourself, then sitting and trying to give them guidelines 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.400 to do what you're you know what you know that 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:06.080 capable of. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.080 And that's one thing I really enjoyed about the game, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.360 apart from the fact out on court, but I love 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.880 watching Timmy Parra and yourself, Don's, you know, as coaches, 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.599 you know, when you've coached them as players and now 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.800 seeing them and going welcome to the real world. And 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.880 the one thing I always say to people, you can't 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.159 play the game for them as much as you'd like to. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.880 And I'm sure Don's is so many decisions you've got 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.960 to make to as coach. You've got Ali Bird in 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.200 the circle. You've got Martina Salmon. So we saw in 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.160 that game against the Stars, Bird stayed on the bench. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.760 Were you tempted to bring her on in that last quarter? 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:39.720 Not in the last quarter. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.880 Probably a bit more tempted in the third, just to 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.040 shake it up a bit and have a bit more height. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.760 Like Tina's been training hard at goal attack too, but 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.920 I don't think she's quite there yet to push out. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.840 So I probably would have left to Pie there and 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.279 brought Ali on, but I chose not to because my 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.479 focus was, you know, we have had one quarter I 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.720 think it was seventeen percent that we disrupted off their 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.560 center pass. So defense was my issue and that's why 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.359 you saw changes happen there. And look, it nearly worked, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.920 didn't it, bringing Paris into center to try and just 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.120 be more solid as a unit defensively. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.520 Have you ever thought of maybe putting bird goal shoot, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.440 Salmon goal attack, TP, wing attack and Peterson center. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.160 Well, we would, but as you would have seen that 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.360 Eric Kana rolled her ankle in that game, which wasn't helpful, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.520 so that ruled her out as the option of going 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.880 to center. Look to Pie has trained a lot at 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.520 wing attack. I don't know if you saw much of 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.280 our pre season, but there is definitely a lineup that 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.840 we have trained and we have used four quarters. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:41.840 Oh I quite like that one. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.560 Look, well, is it perhaps round three coming up? Is 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.720 there a temptation you're playing the Magic haven't had a 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:50.400 win yet? 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:51.760 You know? 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.920 Do you think you're going to be a little complacent 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.800 or no room for complacency? 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.640 Well, there is no room, and maybe we were a 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.920 little bit going. I'd like to think that we weren't, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.880 but maybe we were a little bit complacent coming into 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.120 playing against the Stars. They had a couple injuries and 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.360 I tried to stress to the girls throughout the week. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.320 They haven't lost anyone from their attacking end, right, that's 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.760 their scoring end. We get just as much possession. You know, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.960 don't feel sorry for them, but maybe there was a 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.440 little bit of that. So maybe they've learned and they're not. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.600 Going to be feeling sorry for the Magic. Look, you're 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:25.160 going to remember. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.320 Magic are going to come out and they're going to 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.840 hit their straps at some point. They've got talented players 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.640 right throughout the court. At the moment, it's not clicking 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.600 for them, but they're again playing at home, so we 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.080 just can't afford to take them lightly. It's really important 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.760 because we lost last week. I'm hoping that's not part 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.920 of our mental site going into this one fair enough. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.080 Yeah, and I look at it, you know, and the 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.560 two point structure with the Magic the one thing it 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.960 can aw sur prize herself on the long shots, and 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.280 she indicated media quite a while ago. Now it's going 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.440 to suit her game because she's going to get rewarded 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.240 for taking it. And yet I have not seen her 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.720 take that many. She has in the last quarters of games, 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.679 but not sort of throughout the duration. And two is 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.680 the one actually and hasn't been that successful with them 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.280 and if you have a look at it and not 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.160 do I mean this badly, but it's the teams that 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.120 have been using the two points system are basically teams 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.720 that are losing and catching up. So I'd like to 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.400 see teams not just utilize it in the last quarter, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.760 but have pride in their performance and actually use it 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.520 in the other quarters as well, and also work both 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.760 attack and defensively on that. Is that something you're looking 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.640 at or is it really very much your two points 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:36.319 last quarter? 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.000 No? 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.280 No, definitely using them and it's quite interesting. I've told 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.360 our shooters like Martina and Tapia are very solid from 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.720 there when they want to be. But as a shooter, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.960 you need to feel it right. So I'm never going 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.960 to say don't shoot it. Like if they're feeling it, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.319 go for it. But if you do not get it, 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.560 you have to rebound your ball. I think both ends 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.520 the rebounds are key, and you saw that with the 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.040 Steel performance. We're done, got all of the offensive rebounds, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.280 Kara stythe down the other end rebounded. That's something that 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.240 we need to improve on. And it hasn't just been 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.680 this year issue. It's you know, I think in the 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.880 previous years it's not been a strength of ours to 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.560 rebound defensively, and it has been a focus. So I'm 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.280 hoping that we're going to see a shift at both 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.640 ends here too. So if you're getting the rebounds, you 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.880 don't mind taking the Tuesday. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.040 First year coaching, don's what have you found the most 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.080 challenging so far as a coach, because it's quite the 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.440 switch to go for a player to coach. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.680 The challenges living in christ Church. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.680 My husband's still at home on the farms up to 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.560 watch the sport every weekend. My kids are all here, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.160 so that's that's awesome light. Last night I've got to 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.040 go and watch them all play basketball, so I'm around 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.320 a bit more. All three of them are at the 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.280 same school, so that side of it's really good. Netball 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.080 twenty four to seven is a webit in tests. It's 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.920 all the extra stuff. It's a meetings like were you 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.320 know yesterday I went to training at ten to eight. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.480 I got out of there at hubbas three and we 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.840 didn't even have a training, you know, Like it's just 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:09.360 review and watching clips and meetings, just trying to make 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.240 the athlete better, you know, and make the team better. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600 So I think it's just all the extra stuff that 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:16.240 goes into it. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.280 It's pretty intense. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.880 Is it what you expected? 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:20.240 Yeah? 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.000 I did expect that, but yeah, it's just it's really 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:25.319 full on. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.080 And I think there's been moments where I've kind of asked, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.880 is this really what I want to be doing? 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.240 And am I cut out for this? 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.240 Like as a player, you always look to what you 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.240 can do better, and I definitely did that on Sunday 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.800 night and didn't get much sleep. I think it's actually 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.559 worse than being a player watching the tape and you know, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.040 going through all the stats and I guess questioning whether 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.320 I made the right calls, and I guess the more 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.360 I do it, the more I'll grow in confidence with 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.480 my decisions. But I needed to self reflect as much 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.319 as the players do. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.760 So just in terms of that juggle with motherhood coaching. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.200 Being a wife, So you're living in christ Church at 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.560 the moment, your kids are in christ Church, so your 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.320 husband's at home in the Deep South on his own. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.920 How often are you getting down there? 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.200 I've been twice since I've been in christ Church, so 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.520 not very often. But we play the Steel down there 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.559 soon and we get two days off afterwards, so I'll 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.160 actually get home but lock he comes up and travels 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.280 up here a lot, and he did last year as 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.640 well when the boys were at school, but I never 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.240 got that opportunity because my daughter was still going to 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.800 school and goer. But yeah, he's been up here the 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.520 last two weeks watching sport. He was at the Stars game, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.640 so you know, he's got quite supportive of watching netball again, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.560 which is exciting. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.600 But you just do what you've got to do, right. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.520 Yeah, and the kids, he got any star basketballers so here. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.199 They're all pretty good on the basketball court, don's. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:50.880 Oh, they're not too bad. They love it. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:57.040 My oldest is sixteen, Cooper, and it's all about dunking 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.320 apparently at the moment, so that's quite stressful. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.040 But look, they love just playing sport. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.760 Maya she plays netball and basketball, but all in the 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.480 senior basketball sort of set up. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.760 I've had the middle child. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.959 Jack in a moon boot, which hasn't been fun. So 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.640 we're nearly up to eight weeks. But the interesting thing 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.160 he's got Leslie as his doctors. We've got some pretty 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.080 good so we're going a whole life circle really, but 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.920 like it's nice to be close to them, and I'm. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.920 Just enjoying being back near family in christ Church. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.480 Really, I bet Dean and I feel like we live 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.240 at like radiology places X raying our kids. So I 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.840 think it comes with having athletic kids. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.120 The last five on inside netball. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.559 Okay, don's just to finish, We're gonna ask you our 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:47.880 fast five questions, so just whatever comes out. So first question, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:52.040 if you could have three athletes for dinner, alive or dead, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.080 who would you invite to dinner? 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.760 I would have Andre Egacy, I would have Dennis Rodman, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.400 and I. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.959 Was going to say Roger must have been in there 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:03.240 for her. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.680 If you could compete in any other sport, what would 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.040 it be? Actually doesn't really count for you because you. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:17.080 Didall basketball, but other than basketball, had to pick another sport, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:17.840 it would be tennis. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.120 Quite like tennis, don't you. You're a big Australian Open fan. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.240 You'd go every year, wouldn't you. Okay, in your team 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.200 and the tactics team, who would A get you into 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:34.560 trouble and then B get you out of trouble? So firstly, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.520 who's someone that would get you into trouble? 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.520 Someone that would get me into trouble in my team 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.160 would probably be Peelock's Paris, I knew it. Yeah, I 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.960 think someone that would get me out of trouble Paris 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.720 would probably be Jane because she's a good talker. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.560 Oh okay, Dane, right, okay, So now what would be 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.160 your last supper meal? Now this is like if you 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.240 were going to the executioners the next stage. Well, we've 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:08.120 got to make it clear. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.320 What's your favorite if. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.920 You are not going to have another meal again on 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:12.440 this earth? 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.440 It would have to be a steak, like a beef filet. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.480 I fell at steak. You know, I'm on the farm. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 The farm married me. But it doesn't matter what's with it. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:25.760 But it would have to be a steak. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:26.400 Nice. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.040 And lastly, Don's best piece of advice you've ever been given. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.520 Just enjoy things and to keep enjoying it. And if 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.280 you're not enjoying it, it's time to. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.840 Stop love it. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.600 Oh well, we hope you enjoy your game this weekend 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.760 against the Magic. We'll we are certainly looking with great interest. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.080 Thanks heaps, Don's. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.640 Thanks, catch up, cheers, Don up inside Nedball on iHeartRadio. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:51.720 Inside that Ball. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.000 Oh, I'll always lovely to hear from Donna Wilkins. Nothing 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.360 like a good steak from the farm. We've had some 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.560 interesting glass supper meal. Haven't had a stake yet, so no. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.680 And but we did have who was it spag bowl 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.600 or something from somebody, but you know, each to their own. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:08.320 Taco Bell. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:13.720 Well, let's let's let's talk about the first game, the tech. Well, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.760 let's let's go Stars tactics first is coming off chatting 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.080 to Don's It was a tough week for the Stars. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.040 They went through those three injuries. Of course, it was 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.600 great to see Bell back on the court, but no 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.520 agreea Saint Claire, no Kate Burley. Then they had the 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.520 death of Leanna Dubray's brother, so it wasn't just the injury, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.280 so massive amount of adversity. You've got to give them 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.320 some credit the mental fortitude to come through the week 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.200 that they had and play the game they did. Yvonne, absolutely, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.160 I mean you were involved a little bit in their 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.280 preparation during the week. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.760 What was your take on that that game? 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.000 Yeah, mainly I was there to support the coaches to 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.320 be fair, you know, And yeah, I found out about 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.880 Leanna's brother, and so yeah, I was there to support 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.360 her as well. And what I enjoyed with him is 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.400 that the team just really united as a group. How 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.680 did they win that game. It's because they played it 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.280 as a team and they played it smart, you know, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.520 and you can say, well, we did it for these 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.120 you know, these people now at the end of the day, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.159 it was about their own individual performance and also the 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.440 collective unit. And you know, I think Donald. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:17.520 Also alluded to it. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.959 You know, Tactics might have taken them a little bit lightly, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.520 you know, because they're a very experienced team, and yeah, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:28.240 and Starts just really took it to them. They Tactics 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.280 won the last quarter, and that's why I asked about 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.240 the two point structure. They won that last quarter fourteen thirteen. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.439 But it's really interesting because in that last quarter, again 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.639 I thought Stars played it smart because in that last quarter, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.520 they slowed the ball down when they had ball in hand. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.400 They didn't need to score points. They were leading by 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.720 three or four at that time, so they have to 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.240 try to keep the ball in hand to avoid obviously 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.639 Tactics getting it within the last five minutes. So you know, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.840 that two point structure isn't just about nailing two pointers. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.679 It's also about how you play that last five minutes. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.280 And I thought that that certainly Stars played that really well. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.320 They deserve the win. Defensively, they got some really good 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.520 ball and on attack, Charlie Bell in particular, I thought, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.920