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Speaker 1: Luke Holmes is the biggest name in country music. He

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Speaker 1: is the fairy tale story, dropped out of college, moved

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Speaker 1: to Nashville. The rest is full of Grammy nominations, records

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Speaker 1: broken in stadiums, full of fans. His new album is

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Speaker 1: Fathers and Sons and Luke Colmes as well as from Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, likewise, Bud, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm very well. Indeed, let me catch up from last

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Speaker 1: time because we didn't talk when you were last here,

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Speaker 1: but you went I am told hunting and you went

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Speaker 1: to see the All Blacks. Taught me through the hunting.

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Speaker 1: First of all, how was it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. It was a lot

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Speaker 3: We were in the South Island and man, it was

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Speaker 3: just really really beautiful down there. Never seen anything quite

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Speaker 3: like it, to be honest. Had so much fun. That

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Speaker 3: play a show yet, so we kind of went and

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Speaker 3: did that. We did that first and it was gosh, man,

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Speaker 2: So much fun. We had such a great time doing that.

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Speaker 1: And your rugby experience, what position did you play and

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Speaker 1: how good were you?

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Speaker 3: The one in a three? So one or three depended

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Speaker 3: on depending on the game. To be honest, I mean

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Speaker 2: I was not bad. I wasn't great. You know, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have I wouldn't have made the I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: But I enjoyed it. Man.

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Speaker 1: I like to hit people fair enough to I listened

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Speaker 1: to your CEC song how Big of Football? And when

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Speaker 1: we say football, we mean NFL. Now for a sec

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Speaker 1: purposes college, I've been listening to the SEC song. That's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: How did that come about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about the Petty Yeah, yeah, that came

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Speaker 3: about through you know, when they were putting that whole

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Speaker 2: It reached out to me to be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: A massive Petty fan, right, I am, of course by proxy.

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Speaker 2: So that was always playing in our house growing up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you're when you're you know, eight

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Speaker 3: And I mean, obviously I couldn't love you know, Petty

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it was easy. It was fun.

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Speaker 3: It was you know, it was a really cool thing

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Speaker 2: And it was fun. It's fun experience, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about you, Jinny in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing I noticed on your social the

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Speaker 1: again is the NFL. Well, I hate you as a

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm a huge Panthers fan. For better or worse.

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Speaker 3: We're the worst team in the NFL as of right now.

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Speaker 3: So that was something we did, and we do that

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Speaker 2: So it was cool. Man, It's cool getting to go

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: your journey. At what point or are you still in it? Well,

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Speaker 3: So I just try to appreciate, you know, every opportunity

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Speaker 1: But I think that's true. Let's talk about you, Junie,

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Speaker 1: And kept So I've been a country music fan my

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Speaker 1: Yes they've been popular, but it's never been your popular.

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Speaker 3: So I think there's some element of that, you know,

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Speaker 3: to go back, right, And so there was always intent

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Speaker 1: Well, all I can say is I hope you're enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: And what I want you to do is tell us

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Speaker 1: you're coming back to New Zealand because once it's not enough,

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Speaker 1: as I think you probably found out the first time around,

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Speaker 1: So you need to make some arrangements around that and

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Speaker 1: let us know when you're doing it.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, man, we're going to be back. We're going

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Speaker 3: we're we're excited to get back up. Obviously, last time

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Speaker 3: to start I think maybe the month after we left.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we weren't able to get in any any

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Speaker 1: Fantastic listen, a joy to meet and talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Go well, enjoy and let us know when you're coming

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Speaker 1: and we'll catch up.

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Speaker 2: Then maybe, yes, Sir Mike Wise, appreciate it. Bud.

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