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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fyne

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: On News Talks EDB. Super Rugby Round eight continues tonight

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Speaker 2: Blues Hurricanes, Eden Park seven o'clock kickoff on Gold Sport

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Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio. They march forward the Blues as Christy Pickins

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Speaker 2: and more players from the backline marching towards the twilight over.

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Speaker 2: They go Kurt Eckland the try for the Blues and

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Speaker 2: they are packing it. I don't even know when that

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Speaker 2: game was. When was that game? I don't even remember

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Speaker 2: that try, calling that try from Kurt Eckland. When was

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Speaker 2: it the start of last season? Money Kurt Eckland tryvus

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Speaker 2: the Hurricanes obviously because you were commentating that, I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you picked where he was playing for the Phoenix for

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Speaker 2: some reason. I'm glad you picked out that try. Kurt

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Speaker 2: Eckland himself will be delighted, I'm sure he joins us. Now,

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Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Just a second appearance of the

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Speaker 2: season for you. So what was the injury that kept

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Speaker 2: you out for the first month or so of the season.

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Speaker 3: It's been a bit of a Frustralian one of torn

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Speaker 3: where my what is it? My editor ad meets my

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Speaker 3: where I'm supposed to have ads, it's onn that. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: it's been a bit of a frustrating one. I've got

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Speaker 3: a bit of a Scots issue there that keeps getting reaggravated.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's on a good course coming back

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Speaker 3: for that Chiefs game, but probably a little bit too

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Speaker 3: much too soon sort of thing. So having missed the

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Speaker 3: following game and having bio, which I think is given

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Speaker 3: a good time to settled down and be ready for tonight.

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Speaker 2: All right, so you feel like, yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: guess you can never be entirely certain, can you, But

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Speaker 2: you feel like like you'll be able to get a

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Speaker 2: run of games and now that this is kind of

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Speaker 2: behind you, Yeah, I'm hoping that.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just around my management of load and

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Speaker 3: things like that throughout the week and then the way

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Speaker 3: we're playing the games. If I'm smarter about and that,

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Speaker 3: then yeah, hopefully it's still be a good run into

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Speaker 3: the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: I guess nobody likes to be injured. But how how

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Speaker 2: doubly frustrating was it watching on as the Blues you know,

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Speaker 2: endured a pretty tough start to the season and then

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Speaker 2: you weren't really able to do too much about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough, mate, Like you know, you're in their

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Speaker 3: environments and you feel that hurt, you know, and I've

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Speaker 3: been able to get out there to help or try

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Speaker 3: and you know, ye do your thing to help the team.

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Speaker 3: As frustrating, but you know, you can only support the

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Speaker 3: boys where you can, and that's what I was trying

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Speaker 3: to do, mate, Just try and keep the level of

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Speaker 3: energy and enthusiasm up. And you know, I think, like

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Speaker 3: we're still a really good team, and we only missed

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Speaker 3: out in a couple of games by one or two points,

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Speaker 3: so I have been there, thereout. You know, once we

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Speaker 3: make it all click and hopefully that's tonight, then things

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Speaker 3: start going our way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. You're a good team. There's there's absolutely

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Speaker 2: no question about there. With a couple of others coming

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Speaker 2: back and as well yourself, but also a couple of

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Speaker 2: your big big players, Patrick Twop a lot to Bote

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Speaker 2: and boar It both back in the mix. How influent

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Speaker 2: influential are those guys around your environment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're great leaders in the experience and probably there

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Speaker 3: can posures that they bring to the team is you know,

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Speaker 3: probably what we need at this time of the season.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we'll be looking forward to having them

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Speaker 3: back out on the field and see what they can do.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they you've lost your front row mate off for

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Speaker 2: talking the fussy for the rest of the season. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you're all getting around him to add support. But

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Speaker 2: how big a loss is he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, he's one of the players, like you just

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Speaker 3: mentioned before. You know, the experience and maturity that he

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Speaker 3: brings to the team is huge. You know, he's going

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Speaker 3: to be like greatly missed. He's been great for their

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Speaker 3: young front rows and has been for the last few years,

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Speaker 3: you know, really helped getting around them, learning their roles

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Speaker 3: and things like that. But you know, we've got some

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Speaker 3: young boys as well who can step up and take

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Speaker 3: their opportunity now. But you know, well we'll still get

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Speaker 3: around Offer and he'll be in and around the camp

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that, so you know, I'm sure he'll

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Speaker 2: Least talk on field stuff. Kurt, what have you mainly

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Speaker 2: focused on in the past week or so building up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's big thing. Consistency. We talk about, you know,

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Speaker 3: being good in pitches, but being able to play the

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Speaker 3: game for the whole eighty basics man, And that's like

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Speaker 3: any rugby game. You know, you you now your basics,

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Speaker 3: you hold on to the boy and right into the

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Speaker 3: field and then you know, things start going your way.

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Speaker 3: So I think the three if we've got a game

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Speaker 3: plan that seems pretty drummed into us and everyone seems

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Speaker 3: pretty clear on the role that they need to be taken.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's been a good week of training too.

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Speaker 3: The intensity has been good. I think the break, the

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Speaker 3: week off has let everyone just refresh, get away from

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Speaker 2: The nature of your role of it's always interested me

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Speaker 2: in the hooking role in that it's very rare these

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Speaker 2: days to play eighty minutes. And and you know you

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Speaker 2: play a mix, don't you. I think last year you

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Speaker 2: played a mix of starting hooker and impact hooker. Swapping

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Speaker 2: sometimes from week to week are the roles quite different

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Speaker 2: if you're wearing two rather than sixteen or vice versa.

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Speaker 3: I think, like for a mindset. They're a little bit

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Speaker 3: different because when you're starting, you're getting all the reps

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Speaker 3: throughout the week, you're getting everything that you need, and

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Speaker 3: when you're coming off the bench, you probably get a

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Speaker 3: little bit less around training. So your mindset around your

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Speaker 3: homework and your clarity has to be right on because

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Speaker 3: you aren't getting as many reps. And then when you're

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Speaker 3: coming off the bench, you've got to be very clear

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Speaker 3: because you don't have time to like work out what's

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Speaker 3: going well. You've got the time on the bench to

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Speaker 3: work that what's going on, but you just got to

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Speaker 3: slot in where when you're starting, you know, if you

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Speaker 3: fear the game out a little bit, see how things

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Speaker 3: are flying. But once you're coming off the bench, you

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Speaker 3: really got a job to you know, lift the energy.

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Speaker 3: Now you're set peace and you've got to slip in seamlessly.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? It makes it?

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Speaker 2: It does, It makes perfect sense you and now it's

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Speaker 2: great side tonight, of course you don't have to worry

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Speaker 2: about coming off the bench starting. Do you do you

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Speaker 2: look across the you know, across to the other team,

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Speaker 2: and do you do you have a personal battle with

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Speaker 2: the opposition hooker? Tonight, I suffer a more pretty powerful,

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Speaker 2: pretty powerful ball runner. Do you have a personal battle

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Speaker 3: Hooker is good for the players, isn't here? He's big

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Speaker 3: boy too personal. I don't know if it's personal, but

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Speaker 3: you never want to go out in a game and

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Speaker 3: get one taking over you? It What am I trying

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Speaker 3: to say? You never want somebody to get one over you? Yep,

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Speaker 3: especially if he's your opposition. So personal, I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 3: You know that stuff as a goodude. May you know?

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Speaker 3: I don't mind him at all, but you know, when

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Speaker 3: it comes to three, ye, Like I said, you never

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Speaker 3: want your opposition to get one over this. You know,

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Speaker 3: you get out, You get out there and do everything

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Speaker 3: you can to make sure that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's still plenty of time left this season.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel as though it'll just take one performance perhaps,

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Speaker 2: or maybe that consistency of a couple of wins in

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Speaker 2: a row to spring board yourselves back to where you

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Speaker 2: really want to be as you look to defend your title.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think seriously made If we can get this

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Speaker 3: one on tonight, then you know the positivity and the

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Speaker 3: energy are really left. And just for the confidence, I

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Speaker 3: think not that we lacking confidence, but you know, winning

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Speaker 3: is contagious and if you can get one or two

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Speaker 3: under your belt then things just have a flowing affair

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Speaker 3: from that. So made if we could get this one

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Speaker 3: over the line tonight, it'll be.

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Speaker 2: Huge, outstanding, Hey Kurk, Great to get the chance to

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Speaker 2: chat to you, mate, all the best. Great to have

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Speaker 2: you back from injury as well, and all the best

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Speaker 2: against the Gaines. Thank you, Brett, Thank you, Kurt, Kurt

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Speaker 2: Eklin there back into the two jumper tonight for the

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Speaker 2: Blues against the Hurricanes. A very very interesting proposition this one.

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Speaker 2: No way really of knowing. I don't think who's going

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Speaker 2: to win it. I see the Blues are favorites at

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Speaker 2: the tab that would have to be by home advantage

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Speaker 2: only and the fact maybe they've got a couple of

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Speaker 2: their they're more important players back the likes of Patrick

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Speaker 2: to we pull Lot, to in Bote and Barratt. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it came to a chance, especially after the way they

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Speaker 2: dealt to the Waratahs last weekend.

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