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Speaker 1: So the hopeful part in this Royal Commission into Abuse

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Speaker 1: in care seems to be everyone who can now do

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Speaker 1: something about it starts on the same page. There seems

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Speaker 1: universal agreement. We have a national disgrace, it never should

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Speaker 1: have happened, and redresses needed as fast as possible. It

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Speaker 1: hopefully means for now. Anyway, those who have told their

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Speaker 1: stories know that they have been heard and are believed.

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Speaker 1: And what happens next is the bit that could go

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Speaker 1: well or not. Early signs yesterday as Prime Minister and

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Speaker 1: the minister tasked with leading this area are Eric Stamata,

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Speaker 1: if you've just heard, gave. Their initial responses was that

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Speaker 1: agendas were already at play. If you watch the press conference,

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Speaker 1: which I found interesting, a number of questions were asked

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Speaker 1: about gangs. Some members of gangs are the victims of

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Speaker 1: the abuse in the report. The other questions were around

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Speaker 1: potential legal action. How that is handled is going to

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Speaker 1: be critical given the report deals with events up until

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Speaker 1: broadly speaking, about nineteen ninety nine, that comparatively speaking, is

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Speaker 1: very recent past, and there are those still working in

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Speaker 1: government departments that were allegedly involved in this abuse or

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Speaker 1: in the Lake Alice case. Torture. The legal system, as

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Speaker 1: I suggested to Eric Or a moment ago, isn't well

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Speaker 1: acquainted with the sort of charges that might well come

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Speaker 1: out of that, not to mention the level of detail

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Speaker 1: involved in criminal investigations and the complexities around say a

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Speaker 1: case in nineteen fifty nine and its evidence and its

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Speaker 1: witnesses versus nineteen ninety nine, almost two generations later, where

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Speaker 1: it could get ugly, I think around gangs and the

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister to try to walk the line carefully. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was the suggestion that this government, in their gang crackdown,

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Speaker 1: might have misread why we have gangs, that gangs are

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Speaker 1: an outworking of abuse, and therefore the hardline approach this

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Speaker 1: government is taking might be a bit brutish. Perhaps we

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Speaker 1: could put it this way, Not all victims became gang members,

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Speaker 1: not all victims turned to crime, Not all victims went

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Speaker 1: on to terrorize communities, pedal drugs and cause madem So

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Speaker 1: although what happened to these people cannot be excused in

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Speaker 1: any way, neither can your background be excused for joining

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Speaker 1: a gang and illegal activity. But that is not going

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Speaker 1: to stop the narrative, of course, and the politics of

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Speaker 1: all of this. So watch out for that yesterday, though

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Speaker 1: it was a decent and honorable day because it was

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Speaker 1: driven by acceptance and intent. What the government does, how

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Speaker 1: they do it, to what extent they do it is

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Speaker 1: the far more tricky journey, and that has only just begun.

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