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Speaker 1: Now to something going on in Hawk's Bay. Principles and

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Speaker 1: parents there are upper arms because the Ministry of Education

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Speaker 1: is acting their school bus. The bus currently drops about

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Speaker 1: ninety students from Clive to the schools and Havelock North

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Speaker 1: Ministry says, look, there are public buses available, so the

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Speaker 1: school bus is going to get the chop.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Educator is not happy. Havelock North Intermediate Principal Nigel Misserve

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Speaker 1: and have Lock North High School Principal Joel Wilton are

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Speaker 1: both with us at the moment. Highlands Kilder okayne yea,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you Nigel. I start with you, why

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Speaker 1: are you upset about this? If there are public buses,

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Speaker 1: what are the problems?

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Speaker 2: I think it's because under the consultation we've been provided

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Speaker 2: information on the routes and the timings for these public

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Speaker 2: buses and we've got a number of concerns around them.

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Speaker 2: I guess the first one is I've got young students

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Speaker 2: coming in straight out of primary school from year six

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Speaker 2: into year seven, so we're talking children around eleven years

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Speaker 2: to twelve years of age and looking at the roots

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Speaker 2: have been provided through the public service there they would

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Speaker 2: be having to leave home at seven o'clock to catch

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Speaker 2: a seven to twenty bus to ensure that the routes

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Speaker 2: that those public services will take are able to get

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Speaker 2: them to school on time. I guess what's more concerning

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Speaker 2: around that is at the other end of the day.

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Speaker 2: So if we're finishing school at three o'clock, they then

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Speaker 2: depart on the service at three point thirty. Both of

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Speaker 2: the options available to us at the moment that have

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Speaker 2: been shared out to us in the community mean that

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Speaker 2: those buses then arrive back in Clive at five pm,

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Speaker 2: and in some cases those children are then walking to

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Speaker 2: their homes which might be up to a couple of

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Speaker 2: quimeters away. I mean, that's a massive day from seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning through to after five p for

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Speaker 2: e eleven year old twelve year old children.

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Speaker 1: What's the day like if they're catching the school bus,

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Speaker 1: what time do they leave in the morning.

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Speaker 2: They're catching that bus around about eight o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: morning at the moment, and it's dropping them off to

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Speaker 2: our gate just down the road from the school, so

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Speaker 2: it's a direct route. They don't have to go through hastings,

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Speaker 2: they don't have to do roots and be delivered and

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Speaker 2: have lock north and then walk a couple of cas

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Speaker 2: to then get to school and the advice meself.

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Speaker 1: And it's not an option for the parents to drop

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Speaker 1: them off.

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Speaker 2: Definitely an option, I guess when I'm listening to the

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Speaker 2: community and the feedback that's come just in the short

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Speaker 2: space of time. Now, it's something that weather service has

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Speaker 2: been provided now for many many years. It is the

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Speaker 2: only route I guess it could be provided to them

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Speaker 2: coming straight through to have a lot of rster using

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Speaker 2: the school services as they stand at the moment, I

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Speaker 2: think things have changed. I'd like to see some evidence

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Speaker 2: and even the ministry targeting these families even around the country,

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Speaker 2: because we're only one small dot at the moment around

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Speaker 2: New Zealand where this has been affected. And why is

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Speaker 2: it it's getting harder for parents to take their children

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Speaker 2: to school and relying on their services. I've got gut

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Speaker 2: feelings on that, but I'd like to see some evidence

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Speaker 2: around it.

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Speaker 1: Joel, I'm pretty sure I heard you make a noise

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Speaker 1: when I said, is it not an option for parents

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Speaker 1: to drop them off? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of parents find it pretty difficult

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Speaker 3: in the current situation, even with a transport or school

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Speaker 3: transport available to them, and this is kind of another

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Speaker 3: hurdle over and above, and I think Nigel's point it

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Speaker 3: really comes down to the commute time that makes this

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Speaker 3: particular situation stand out for students to like Nigel said,

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Speaker 3: who are eleven years old, to be commuting for three

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Speaker 3: hours a day to get to school and what is

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Speaker 3: really a ten minute trip doesn't seem like appropriate public

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Speaker 3: transport this particular situation.

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Speaker 1: Are they no schools closer to Clive.

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Speaker 3: So we're currently the school that the client students are

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Speaker 3: in zone for. There are other schools, but they are

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Speaker 3: quite a distance from all the secondary schools and intermediate

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Speaker 3: schools in the area, so there aren't any schools in

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Speaker 3: the Clive area specifically, so Clyde students are zoned for us.

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Speaker 3: And to be honest, it's not a particularly long distance,

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Speaker 3: but it certainly is if you have to travel all

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Speaker 3: the way into Hastings and then back and to have

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Speaker 3: north to get here, so as.

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Speaker 1: The crow flies Clive to have lock north how far.

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Speaker 3: Geography? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Suppose gone of the day as a child would drive

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Speaker 1: just jump on a bike and bike to school.

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Speaker 3: Well, we certainly have a few students like that, but

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Speaker 3: I think again it comes down to you know, tens

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Speaker 3: of eleven years old. That's perhaps less appropriate, but it's

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Speaker 3: also I suppose one of the things that we'd also

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Speaker 3: like to hope is that there are public transport options

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Speaker 3: or transport options I should say, for students, whether that's

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Speaker 3: school or public, that are appropriate.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon Nigel is eleven years old too

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Speaker 1: young to be riding ten k's to school on a bike?

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Speaker 2: Oh, in some situations not. I think it depends on

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Speaker 2: the geography and the layout of cycle safety that's available.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're familiar with Clive. It pretty

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Speaker 2: much slits in the middle between nature and Hastings and

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Speaker 2: there's no safe cycle routes available for that.

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Speaker 1: There pretty busy road zone schools.

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Speaker 2: They do have them in those zones. There are specifically

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Speaker 2: either eighty kilometer or one hundred kilometer zones, depending on

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Speaker 2: which way you go, and or one of them doesn't

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Speaker 2: have even a wide cycled space for children. I'd hate

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Speaker 2: to see them on there as it stands at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Guys, thank you very much for talking us through to

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Speaker 1: appreciate it's Nigel miserving have Lock North Intermediate principle and

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Speaker 1: Joel Wilton have lock North High School principle.

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