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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and Bpure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: Morn in a good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame with you through the midday Test Day All

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Speaker 2: Blacks Day, First Test of twenty twenty four. I cannot

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Speaker 2: believe this. The English team has not played in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand for a decade. That is crazy, isn't it? Cannot

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Speaker 2: wait for seven oh five this evening We're going to

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Speaker 2: be counting down to that all important first AB's Test

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Speaker 2: under Raiser Forsyth Bar Stadium, Tonedin tonight. Of course we'll

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Speaker 2: catch up with our sport I get his thoughts on

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Speaker 2: that very very shortly. Our feature interview after ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning is none other than Kiwi music legend Julia Dean's.

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Speaker 2: You know how she's been producing heaps of solo music

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, like beautiful, kind of

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Speaker 2: amazing solo project. Well, she's just decided that she and

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Speaker 2: the guys from Fur Patrol are going to get back

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Speaker 2: together for a couple of live shows. It is more

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Speaker 2: than twenty years since their first album, but it's going

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Speaker 2: to be so good to see them performing. So she'll

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Speaker 2: be with us in studio after ten this morning. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: It was Rude climb Past, good old friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: our man in the garden, Rude kliin Past, who inspired

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Speaker 2: me ever since my fiasco with the trees in my backyard,

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Speaker 2: in which I inadvertently oversaw a much much much more

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Speaker 2: aggressive winter prune than intended, and which, for the sake

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Speaker 2: of marital harmony, we need not re litigate this morning,

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Speaker 2: I've been looking for opportunities to make amends to mother

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Speaker 2: Nature at my place, along with my regularly nuttallid rat trap.

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Speaker 2: Rude suggested that what the native birds had lost in

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Speaker 2: terms of a leafy canopy at my place, I might

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Speaker 2: make up to them with a bit of sugar water.

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Speaker 2: Native birds, it would seem, are kind of like school children,

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Speaker 2: or honestly kind of like me, and that the quickest

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Speaker 2: way to their hearts is through their stomachs, and the

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Speaker 2: more sugary the incentive, the better. So I bought one

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Speaker 2: from Predator Free New Zealand a pecka pecker bird feeder

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Speaker 2: with a dripper bottle up the top for the neck

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Speaker 2: de feeders and little attachment for hanging energy balls or

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Speaker 2: bits of fruit underneath it. Winter is the time when

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Speaker 2: the native birds benefit the most from a bit of

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Speaker 2: supplementary feed and so, you know, putting a bit of

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Speaker 2: food in the feeder was obvious. I reckon that would

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Speaker 2: probably pleads the sparrows, but it wasn't at all clear

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Speaker 2: to me how the native nectar feeders were going to

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Speaker 2: work out that the bottle was dripping out the Avian

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Speaker 2: version of fanta. It was that sweet. I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's like a little metal attachment, a little

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Speaker 2: metal nozzle. How would they know that was the place

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Speaker 2: to go? So I spent a day or two googling

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Speaker 2: various theories and methods for attracting them before the bottle arrived,

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Speaker 2: Although as it turned out, I needn't have worried. The

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Speaker 2: moment I strung it up and turned my back on

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Speaker 2: the feeder, it was swarmed by an incredible flock of toho,

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Speaker 2: you know, silver eyes, The pudgy little cuties swarmed the

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Speaker 2: feeders platform and pecked at the feeder nozzle, six or

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Speaker 2: eight at a time. They squabble, with more queuing up

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Speaker 2: in the nearby plum tree, waiting to gorge. In the

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Speaker 2: few weeks that I've had it, I have become less

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Speaker 2: concerned about attracting birds and more worried that somehow I've

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Speaker 2: created a dependency. As well as the silver eyes, every

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Speaker 2: Toui in Auckland must have had the word. They swoop down, irridescent, gorgeous, greedy,

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Speaker 2: The toho scramble. I've no idea what the record is,

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Speaker 2: at one point yesterday I counted no fewer than six

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Speaker 2: tui in my backyard, six all of them lined up

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Speaker 2: to guzzle down the sugar water. It's a good thing

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Speaker 2: that tui don't have teeth to brush, But can too

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Speaker 2: he get diabetes. Maybe it's middle age. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe it's a weird form of nesting. I

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Speaker 2: the toho, the silver eyes like furry little ping pong balls,

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Speaker 2: the toui bullies. But such beautiful bullies. My feeder is

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Speaker 2: Jack ninety two to ninety two is the text number

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna fixus a messon this morning. Don't forget

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Speaker 2: that standard text costs apply. You can email me as well,

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Speaker 2: Jacketnewstalk's HEDB dot co dot NZ. I'm gonna keep you

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Speaker 2: up to speed with the latest Euro So at the moment,

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Speaker 2: Portugal and France are into the second part of extra

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Speaker 2: time nil all in that game. I got up really

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Speaker 2: early this morning to watch Spain Germany, which was such

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Speaker 2: a good game of football. It's just it is a

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Speaker 2: golden time for sport at the moment, right and international sport.

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Speaker 2: You've got the Euro's first all backs test of the season.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you've got the Mighty Warriors as well as that,

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Speaker 2: you got the Tour de France, the Olympics starting in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. It never ends. Kevin Melon's gonna

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Speaker 2: kick us off next thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Taman,

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 2: Mb Ah, Jack, where'd you get your bird feeder this morning?

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Speaker 2: How amazing is that? Says Susi Jack, What was your

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Speaker 2: bird feeder brand? So I went on to Peter Ta Free,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, and I got a Pecker Pecker bird feeder.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not being paid to promote it or anything.

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Speaker 2: I just bought one. It's pretty good because you attach

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Speaker 2: it to one of those warratars, you know, the metal

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Speaker 2: things you can stick in the ground. You're attached it

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Speaker 2: to one of those, and it's important that you get

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Speaker 2: meter and a half or higher off the ground so

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Speaker 2: that cats and rats and that kind of thing don't

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Speaker 2: get up there and disturb it. Jack, you could publish poems.

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Speaker 2: I saw the description of what you were reading, says Steve.

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Speaker 2: That's very kind. Steve might be a bit of a stretch.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone needs me to get too lyrical anyway.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is our text number. If you

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Speaker 2: can beat six to twoy I'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I've actually put a video of it for all of

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Speaker 2: the non believers out there, I've put a video taken

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Speaker 2: from my taken from my window looking outside at all

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Speaker 2: the who he lined up yesterday. I put it on

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Speaker 2: our Facebook page, So go to Jack Tame on Facebook

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Speaker 2: and you can see that. If you like, Kevin Milne

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Speaker 2: is with us this morning. Kill to Kevin. Oh, hang

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Speaker 2: on again, kill to Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Don't you think those tooy look kind of like criminals? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: When they come and to drink, they're always looking behind

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Speaker 2: Totally. Well, although the silver eyes are probably more twitchy

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Speaker 2: actually amazing. It's only this This is going to sound

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Speaker 2: like an crearly dumb observation, but it was only upon

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Speaker 2: setting up the bird feeder that I really appreciated the

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Speaker 2: difference in size between some birds and that a too

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Speaker 2: he is probably like six or seven silver eyes, Like

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Speaker 2: you could fit six or seven silver eyes and a toy,

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Speaker 2: which is a really big discrepancy. So you can see

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Speaker 2: why the too he's able to, you know, it's top

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Speaker 2: of the pecking order, very literal pecking order. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Reading a book at the moment called bird Watching, and

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Speaker 4: you know it says that the silver eye is only

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Speaker 4: a fifth weight of a mouse.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, there's such a cue. I

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Speaker 2: love them because the kind of they're like little you know,

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Speaker 2: they're like little ping pong poles, but they're all kind

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Speaker 2: of slightly shabby at the stuff as well. They're very

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Speaker 2: very cute. I've got a real affinity for the little

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Speaker 2: for the little silver rise. But Kevin, you have had

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Speaker 2: a little bit of an issue with your calendar for

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, why is it that printed on my SPCA

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four calendar is, for example, September the twenty

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Speaker 4: third South Canterbury Anniversary Day? Useless information? Why on January

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Speaker 4: the two does it say, seriously, day after New Year's Day?

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Speaker 4: Surely you know that. But on on Saturday, the sixth

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Speaker 4: of July, that's today, it doesn't tell me that the

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Speaker 4: New Zealand All Blacks are playing England in the first

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Speaker 4: International of the Razor Era. As a result, what's now

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Speaker 4: written on our calendar for the night is Guru of

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Speaker 4: Chai seven pm. Guru of Chai is a play put

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Speaker 4: on by the Indian Ink Theater Company, the most innovative,

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Speaker 4: fantastic theater group in the country. Christian's Dairy, etc. I've

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Speaker 4: talked about them before. It'll be brilliant, But Jack, I'd

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Speaker 4: rather be sitting in front of my Telly tonight at

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Speaker 4: seven pm watching the All Blacks than going to a play. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I'll record the game, I'll watch it when I get home,

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Speaker 4: but it's not the same. Call me a linear, constricted boomer,

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Speaker 4: but home test matches needed to be watched live.

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Speaker 5: It goes without.

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Speaker 4: Saying that it wasn't me that booked for the play.

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Speaker 4: My wife did. But it's not her fault. When she

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Speaker 4: was blank. How was she to know it was a

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Speaker 4: momentous night. She simply said, Kevin, do you want to

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Speaker 4: Had she been the perfect woman, she might have said, darling, No.

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Speaker 4: She never said through that and there she might have said, darling,

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Speaker 4: it's on a Saturday night in the middle of winter.

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Speaker 4: A check. There's not a Matt Test Match on it

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Speaker 4: or the Warriors in factor are both, but that's a

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Speaker 4: lot to ask someone who's not invested in neither. So

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Speaker 4: can I say to the SBCA, you do a great job,

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Speaker 4: but before you put out next year's calendar, don't bother

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Speaker 4: calling every regional council for their anniversary day chet instead

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Speaker 4: to the New Zealand at Rugby Union.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is a very very good point. I

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Speaker 2: wonder if with digital calendar, is there something you can

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Speaker 2: click whereby it puts on all of those kind of

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Speaker 2: key sporting events. There must be someone must have invented that, right,

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Speaker 2: because I get caught out by exactly the same thing

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Speaker 2: from time to time. But you know what, Kevin, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give you a hack. And this is very

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Speaker 2: cheeky of me. Yeah, you know you don't have to go. No,

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Speaker 2: you've bought a ticket, but you've supported the Kopappa.

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Speaker 4: My daughter's actually just the rived home affectedly, right, and

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Speaker 4: maybe some negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, I think it would be a great

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Speaker 2: opportunity a mother daughter bonding evening, you know. And you

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Speaker 2: have that that cough of yours has been getting a

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Speaker 2: little bit more harsh over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I think the responsible thing to do, Kevin might be just,

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Speaker 2: you know, not for you, but for the community, you know, just.

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Speaker 4: I think there are some possibilities in that regard. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, I hear it's a brilliant, brilliant play. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: very brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Well, whoever goes along from the Mellon household, I hope

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Speaker 2: you enjoyed this evening. Thank you very much, Kevin. That

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Speaker 2: is Kevin Miln. Thank you for your feedback as well. Well,

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Speaker 2: it turns out my six too, he apparently, isn't remotely

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News talksb.

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Speaker 2: It is a brilliant, brilliant play. Honestly, all Black tests

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Speaker 7: Yeah, an intriguing prospect, Jack, maybe if there was a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really interesting selections this week. And saw your story

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting. You cannot wait

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Speaker 7: What a sporting weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's a long it's a long haul for the for

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Speaker 2: If you want to get in touch, ninety two. Ninety

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Speaker 2: It'd be you were Jack Tame through to midday today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your feedback, Jack. I've recently saw the amazing

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Speaker 2: to the bike Riders.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's starting a writing club.

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Speaker 6: You don't belong nowhere else or they belong together, we'd notes.

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Speaker 8: triangle between Johnny and Kathy and Benny. Johnny wants Benny

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Speaker 8: to take over, Kathy wants Benny to leave the leave

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Speaker 8: the gang, and to be honest with you. Bennie doesn't

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Speaker 8: say huge amount of this film. He's a pretty emotionless

432
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Speaker 8: kind of character who's just this is where he fits

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Speaker 8: and he just sort of goes along for the ride. Look,

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Speaker 8: it's really interesting, and I quite like the way that

435
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Speaker 8: they've told us from a female point of view, but

436
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Speaker 8: I feel like it only scratches the surface. It's a

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Speaker 8: little bit pretty. It feels like a sanitized version of

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Speaker 8: actually what was really going on. There's not a huge

439
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Speaker 8: amount of these guys that they like to sit around

440
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Speaker 8: drink beer, you know, ride their bikes, being a gang

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Speaker 8: and hang out together. But I think that it doesn't

442
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Speaker 8: really put a touch on a lot of their kind

443
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Speaker 8: of beliefs and philosophies in the way they decide to

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Speaker 8: kind of grow and live their lives. So yeah, it

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Speaker 8: looks good, sounds great fun, but I just think it

446
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Speaker 8: just sort of probably scratches the surface of what really.

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Speaker 13: Is going on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the bike riders also showing and cinemas

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Speaker 2: tell us about the Taste of Things.

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Speaker 8: Oh look, if you love foody films like The Best

451
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Speaker 8: Feast or Chocolat or Big Night, then you're going to

452
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Speaker 8: love this French film. It's by tran On Hum and him.

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Speaker 8: About thirty years ago Davides with a film called The

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Speaker 8: Grempa part the Center of the Green, a part of Brandpapyet,

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Speaker 8: and that one the Can, and then this year The

456
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Speaker 8: Taste of Things one best director at Can. It is

457
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Speaker 8: a slow, gentle film about basically a love of film

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Speaker 8: a food. It is set around the kitchen of one

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Speaker 8: of France's greatest epicure. It's eighteen eighty five and Dodana

460
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Speaker 8: is like the Napoleon of culumary art, but he is

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Speaker 8: the first to credit his chef, Eugene, who brings all

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Speaker 8: his ideas to life. As I mentioned, it is pretty

463
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Speaker 8: much set in the kitchen. The first twenty minutes you

464
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Speaker 8: literally just make them, You just watch them make a meal.

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Speaker 8: So you really need to be a foody. Do not

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Speaker 8: go to this film hungry. It's twenty fifteen minutes long

467
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Speaker 8: and you're just sit there, just just salivating and refreshing

468
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Speaker 8: the fact that you're there very much a love letter

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Speaker 8: to sort of fresh ingredients and creativity and cooking from

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Speaker 8: scratch and making a meaningful moment out of a meal.

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Speaker 8: So quite divine, Juliet Binoche, Quite divine.

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Speaker 12: But it is.

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Speaker 8: Quite a slow film. It's completely focused on film with

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Speaker 8: a touch of romance. So I think you'll know if

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Speaker 8: that's for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, well plat okay, So that's the taste

477
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Speaker 2: of things. Your first film is The Bike Riders, and

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Speaker 2: of course both of those will be up on the

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Speaker 2: News Talks he'd be website. We try and put everything

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Speaker 2: from our show up there just as soon as it's

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Speaker 2: been on the radio. So go to News Talks, dB,

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Speaker 2: dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack and you'll be

483
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Speaker 2: able to find that, just so you know. In the

484
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Speaker 2: penalty shootout between Portugal and France, at the moment, oh

485
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Speaker 2: hi drama, Ronaldo made his but at the moment Portugal

486
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Speaker 2: is behind, so both teams have taken three penalties each.

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Speaker 2: France are up three to two over Portugal. One Portuguese

488
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Speaker 2: player has just missed one. I'll let you know how

489
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Speaker 2: the game ends up in a couple of minutes. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty to ten on news doorgs EDB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot co dot ins here for

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Speaker 1: high quality supplements used dogs EDB.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely the native trees that the native birds like

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Speaker 2: the most. I mean no, right, I think the core

496
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Speaker 2: fire in particular, Jack, thirty plus two in a cor

497
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Speaker 2: fire tree was quite common and too dungyback in the day.

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Speaker 2: I've got a photo of a corhai tree at our

499
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Speaker 2: place way down with Tooey. Yeah, okay, that is impressive.

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Speaker 2: Thirty It seems to defeat the record at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen photographic evidence from anyone about thirty twoy, but

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Speaker 2: that's the record. Portugal has been defeated by France five

503
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Speaker 2: to four and the penalty shootout in the Euro's quarterfinals,

504
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Speaker 2: so that will mean that France takes on Spain in

505
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Speaker 2: the semifinal in a few days time, of course, than

506
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Speaker 2: the remaining quarter finals. Tomorrow morning on TVNZ plus Nicki

507
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Speaker 2: Wacks Our cook is with us every Saturday morning on

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDBS, a highlight of the show. But this

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Speaker 2: week we're doing things a little bit differently because Nikki

510
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Speaker 2: has just published More from a Quiet Kitchen, her latest book,

511
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Speaker 2: and it is a deeply personal collection of recipes, stories, anecdotes,

512
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Speaker 2: and life lessons, and Nicki's with us this morning.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Yes, good morning. Check.

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Speaker 2: First of all, congratulations, Just like a Quiet Kitchen, It

515
00:27:01,213 --> 00:27:06,253
Speaker 2: is beautiful, and I love the way that you sprinkle

516
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Speaker 2: it in like your own anecdotes and your own stories,

517
00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:16,413
Speaker 2: your own little philosophical thoughts and lessons between the recipes

518
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Speaker 2: that have enriched your life so much. So just to

519
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Speaker 2: just for anyone who hasn't seen the bog, just just

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Speaker 2: tell us about the concept a little bit.

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Speaker 14: First of all, So, I guess I wrote a couple

522
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Speaker 14: of books and they were sort of fairly traditional. They

523
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Speaker 14: were you know, and they kind of you know, deserts,

524
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Speaker 14: mains starters, whatever, that kind of thing. And then these books,

525
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Speaker 14: this series, I really just feel as though that doesn't

526
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Speaker 14: do that sort of the food journey any any service,

527
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Speaker 14: if you like. So for some reason, my publisher has

528
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Speaker 14: gone along with it, so I get to have chapter

529
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Speaker 14: headings like solitude and loneliness, yeah, retreats, regrets and ridiculousness

530
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Speaker 14: and that sort of thing, because what I do is,

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Speaker 14: I suppose I do think of my life, you know,

532
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Speaker 14: as a series of kind of experiences and the food

533
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Speaker 14: that feeds into that. Literally, So yeah, I've got no

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Speaker 14: interest in sort of doing anything traditionally. But then after

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Speaker 14: I send it off the first draft to the publisher,

536
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Speaker 14: and the first edit always comes back where within each

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Speaker 14: one of those chapters they will put the save the

538
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Speaker 14: savory recipes first and the sweet ones in. Then even

539
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Speaker 14: though I have sprinkled the sweet ones and yeah, favor

540
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Speaker 14: and I reverse them, and I go back and go, no, no,

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Speaker 14: I don't want them to be like that.

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Speaker 2: That's not how I operate. Yeah, So when we got

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Speaker 2: a copy of the book, Libby and I, my producer,

544
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Speaker 2: Liby and I immediately talked about it and just said,

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Speaker 2: the thing that we love about you is your authenticity,

546
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Speaker 2: Like you are who you are, and that's why we

547
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Speaker 2: love you, and you don't there's no effort to ever

548
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Speaker 2: try and be cool or ever cooler than you are.

549
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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, cooler You know what I mean

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Speaker 2: there's no you are you are you are you, and

551
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Speaker 2: and that's what I think your readers love about you

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Speaker 2: as well. And the truth is that that since over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, right since COVID, you have

554
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Speaker 2: had a bit of an up and down time, to

555
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Speaker 2: say the least.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and look, that's lovely for you to say that.

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Speaker 14: Around authenticity, I'd say that's really hard one for any human.

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Speaker 14: So I wasn't. I mean, we were all born authentic

559
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Speaker 14: and then we learned not to be somehow or other

560
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Speaker 14: have to get it back. So I wouldn't say that

561
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Speaker 14: my thirties were particularly authentic, or at least not for myself.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I've probably ended up exactly as other people

563
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Speaker 14: saw me, but I angsed a lot about what people

564
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Speaker 14: were seeing. Not in a vain way, not in a

565
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Speaker 14: oh I need to present this way, but I just

566
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Speaker 14: was very unsure of myself, whereas I think I did

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Speaker 14: present quite a sort of shore front, whereas now I've

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Speaker 14: kind of come to you know, my outsides really really

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Speaker 14: kind of matched my insides these days, which is a

570
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Speaker 14: lot of therapy and a lot of ants thing. But

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Speaker 14: there you go.

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Speaker 2: So and I mean I mentioned COVID. But after COVID

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Speaker 2: you gotd by psychon Gabrielle pretty hard.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we did, you know, and I think a lot

575
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Speaker 14: of the country did. And it really woke up those

576
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Speaker 14: of us who were affected were woke up, We really did.

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Speaker 14: And my small community got hit pretty hard. There's still

578
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Speaker 14: houses down here at put white cutto red stickered, you know,

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Speaker 14: the hills slipped down, and you know, my own property flooded,

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Speaker 14: and it was it was pretty It was pretty shocking,

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Speaker 14: to be honest. If you haven't been directly affected by

582
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Speaker 14: you know, some sort of climate crisis or an earthquake

583
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Speaker 14: or whatever, I think you feel empathy, but you don't

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Speaker 14: necessarily really feel it, you know what I mean. Or

585
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Speaker 14: as we were there, I was shin deep in water, going, oh,

586
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Speaker 14: how does this not flow away? Could it just go?

587
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Speaker 2: Please?

588
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Speaker 14: And it really did shake me for quite some time.

589
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Speaker 14: I felt like I really couldn't trust trust nature, if

590
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Speaker 14: you like, and yet that's the only thing we can trust.

591
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Speaker 2: It probably do you feel Do you feel more secure now?

592
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Speaker 14: I do? Yeah, yeah, that has gone. But it took

593
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Speaker 14: a bit of work. I just sort of cooked my

594
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Speaker 14: waist through it. And I also made sure Jack that

595
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Speaker 14: I got out a lot in nature, So I do

596
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Speaker 14: think that more from a quiet kitchen. Certainly, the beautiful

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Speaker 14: imagery that Toddy has taken, there's a lot of me

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Speaker 14: in the water, up walking up in hills and that

599
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Speaker 14: sort of thing. Really had to kind of tune back

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Speaker 14: towards nature and embrace it.

601
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the photos are gorgeous.

602
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Speaker 14: I mean, he's amazing.

603
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Speaker 2: He does an amazing job because it's it is it

604
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Speaker 2: like a real art. A couple of little things, a

605
00:31:19,093 --> 00:31:21,133
Speaker 2: little anecdotes and stories. I wanted to ask you about

606
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Speaker 2: the eating for one. You really lean into this and

607
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Speaker 2: I love it. In fact, you don't say it's just

608
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Speaker 2: eating for one. You say there's all sorts of stuff

609
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Speaker 2: that can be fun for one, traveling for one, going

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Speaker 2: to concerts by yourself. Yeah, yeah, I love So you

611
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Speaker 2: just just talk to us a little bit about that

612
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Speaker 2: and why you felt it so important to kind of

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Speaker 2: fear that your ethos around that.

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Speaker 14: Well, Look, lots of people find themselves single for lots

615
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Speaker 14: of different reasons, or as I like to say, you know,

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Speaker 14: living or being solo. Primarily we've all got great friends,

617
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Speaker 14: we've got family, we've got all that. But if you

618
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Speaker 14: haven't got a significant other. Sometimes people that makes them

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Speaker 14: stop going out for dinner. They might not go to

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Speaker 14: a concert. They might yeah, not travel. I do all

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Speaker 14: of those things, and I love all of them. A

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Speaker 14: friend of mine particularly put me onto the going to

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Speaker 14: the concerts thing before a Fleetwood mat concert. She said, look,

624
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Speaker 14: I've brought a single ticket. You know, I know you

625
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Speaker 14: love them?

626
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Speaker 11: Why you?

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Speaker 14: And so we did. We met up beforehand. We both

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Speaker 14: went and sat in our seats, had a great night.

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Speaker 14: In fact, that was the last time that they toured

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Speaker 14: in New Zealand. I'm so pleased I didn't. You can

631
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Speaker 14: often pick up tickets for you know, sell out concerts.

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Speaker 14: Dining dining alone is always a little bit hilarious because

633
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Speaker 14: everybody else is particularly uncomfortable with that, apart from me.

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Speaker 14: You know, while I'm sitting in the restaurant, I do

635
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Speaker 14: think sometimes what I've given I've given my readers some

636
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Speaker 14: ideas around sit at what we call the pass or

637
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Speaker 14: you know, up at a counter, if you can go

638
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Speaker 14: back to the same place so that they know you,

639
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Speaker 14: which is really lovely. Take a book, take a kindle.

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Speaker 14: These days we've got phones. Just sit there and steering

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Speaker 14: and off into the distance. It is more acceptable now.

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Speaker 14: But what I reckon Jeck is loads of people are

643
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Speaker 14: comfortable doing it when they travel for work or whatever.

644
00:32:58,693 --> 00:33:01,493
Speaker 14: But then when you're in your own hometown, does anyone

645
00:33:01,533 --> 00:33:03,413
Speaker 14: want to go up to Blue Breeze in and sit

646
00:33:03,453 --> 00:33:05,053
Speaker 14: on their own and have their mates see them?

647
00:33:05,093 --> 00:33:05,413
Speaker 6: Do that?

648
00:33:06,413 --> 00:33:07,893
Speaker 14: All I used to do all the time when I

649
00:33:07,933 --> 00:33:11,013
Speaker 14: lived around ponsb. So you know, I think, don't don't

650
00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:14,533
Speaker 14: worry about all of that. And I have had people

651
00:33:14,573 --> 00:33:17,413
Speaker 14: invite me to the table, which I find really weird,

652
00:33:18,853 --> 00:33:21,053
Speaker 14: you know, just because they feel like, oh, no, your

653
00:33:21,053 --> 00:33:22,973
Speaker 14: poor thing, you're on their own. I never look at

654
00:33:22,973 --> 00:33:25,093
Speaker 14: a couple sitting not speaking to each other and go

655
00:33:25,133 --> 00:33:26,893
Speaker 14: over and say, do one of you want to join me?

656
00:33:27,093 --> 00:33:31,013
Speaker 14: You having a good time? So yeah, if you see

657
00:33:31,053 --> 00:33:33,813
Speaker 14: someone diving alone, just ignore them. It's fine, they're having

658
00:33:33,853 --> 00:33:34,613
Speaker 14: a great time.

659
00:33:34,653 --> 00:33:37,133
Speaker 2: I reckon the book thing is I think the book

660
00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:40,773
Speaker 2: thing is absolutely critical, well not critical, but that's the

661
00:33:40,773 --> 00:33:42,453
Speaker 2: thing I love doing. I actually think this is a

662
00:33:42,493 --> 00:33:45,333
Speaker 2: little bit of a secret to I quite like, especially

663
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:47,533
Speaker 2: when I'm overseas. But I don't know why. I think

664
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Speaker 2: it's the kind of bar culture in New York, for example,

665
00:33:49,813 --> 00:33:51,693
Speaker 2: it's a bit different. Yes, I love going to a

666
00:33:51,733 --> 00:33:53,813
Speaker 2: bar and having a glass of wine and reading a

667
00:33:53,853 --> 00:33:56,533
Speaker 2: book just by myself. Yeah, I love it.

668
00:33:56,733 --> 00:33:57,293
Speaker 14: I love it.

669
00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,933
Speaker 2: And I always think I must look so mysterious right now.

670
00:34:00,093 --> 00:34:01,893
Speaker 2: I always think, my gosh, if I was looking at

671
00:34:01,893 --> 00:34:05,173
Speaker 2: me thinking my gosh, I'm asterious person. Is he a spy?

672
00:34:05,533 --> 00:34:06,653
Speaker 2: Is something spy?

673
00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:07,733
Speaker 11: Is a reviewer?

674
00:34:09,373 --> 00:34:09,853
Speaker 2: Yeah?

675
00:34:09,893 --> 00:34:12,693
Speaker 14: Exactly, No, none of those things. You're just out enjoying

676
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:16,293
Speaker 14: your own company. And sometimes it's really nice to enjoy

677
00:34:16,373 --> 00:34:20,253
Speaker 14: the drink, the food, really uninterrupted, ready to get that

678
00:34:20,373 --> 00:34:23,133
Speaker 14: experience kind of thing. Well, just have some time alone.

679
00:34:23,573 --> 00:34:25,653
Speaker 14: I just don't think we should be missing out on things.

680
00:34:25,653 --> 00:34:28,173
Speaker 14: So that is a big ethos for my books. And

681
00:34:28,293 --> 00:34:31,293
Speaker 14: it's why so many of the recipes serve one or two,

682
00:34:31,453 --> 00:34:34,013
Speaker 14: because that is the other thing is you know, for

683
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:37,853
Speaker 14: years even I wrote recipes serves four to six. Always

684
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,733
Speaker 14: it's hard for people to downscale those or they feel

685
00:34:40,733 --> 00:34:43,173
Speaker 14: like they have to sort of be eating something much

686
00:34:43,213 --> 00:34:46,053
Speaker 14: more or steer if it's just cooking for one, and

687
00:34:46,093 --> 00:34:48,213
Speaker 14: it really doesn't need to be. So yeah, I'm pleased

688
00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:49,493
Speaker 14: they're bringing comfort to people.

689
00:34:49,653 --> 00:34:52,853
Speaker 2: No love, it's such a yeah, it's and like I say,

690
00:34:52,933 --> 00:34:55,333
Speaker 2: it is, it is absolutely beautiful. I know that we're

691
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:57,053
Speaker 2: going to we're going to put one of the recipes

692
00:34:57,613 --> 00:34:59,733
Speaker 2: from the book up online today.

693
00:35:00,213 --> 00:35:01,413
Speaker 14: Is the Parisian.

694
00:35:02,573 --> 00:35:05,093
Speaker 2: Caramel, which I feel like might have been picked out

695
00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:08,893
Speaker 2: for me. I just I've long seen rice pudding is

696
00:35:08,893 --> 00:35:10,293
Speaker 2: the most underrated of puddings.

697
00:35:10,453 --> 00:35:14,133
Speaker 14: Oh, I agree, and the French have elevated it. I

698
00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:16,293
Speaker 14: can still remember the little bistro that I went to

699
00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:20,573
Speaker 14: eat this in Paris. And it comes cold in Paris. Yes,

700
00:35:20,613 --> 00:35:22,293
Speaker 14: at this time it may have just been a trend

701
00:35:23,053 --> 00:35:26,573
Speaker 14: and with some lightly whipped cream through it, so it's

702
00:35:26,773 --> 00:35:29,813
Speaker 14: light and billowy. And then they bring you this lovely

703
00:35:29,893 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 14: big bowl of of salted caramel sauce that you can

704
00:35:35,053 --> 00:35:38,373
Speaker 14: just laidle out as much as you wish. Oh my goodness,

705
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:39,053
Speaker 14: it is so.

706
00:35:39,173 --> 00:35:44,573
Speaker 2: Good, so much, given you are in such a beautiful

707
00:35:44,573 --> 00:35:46,413
Speaker 2: part of the world in Port Wykeata. What's the record

708
00:35:47,013 --> 00:35:49,093
Speaker 2: for the number of TOUI and your nick of the woods?

709
00:35:49,253 --> 00:35:49,413
Speaker 15: Oh?

710
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:52,773
Speaker 14: I saw your toy video yesterday and I thought, how fantastic.

711
00:35:52,893 --> 00:35:54,533
Speaker 14: I have a lot of towey around here as well.

712
00:35:55,013 --> 00:35:58,213
Speaker 14: I love them. I've never seen sex. Now I've got

713
00:35:58,253 --> 00:36:00,853
Speaker 14: a pair. I've got two peers that sits at either

714
00:36:00,853 --> 00:36:03,613
Speaker 14: corner of my property, but not sex with the pears.

715
00:36:03,693 --> 00:36:06,253
Speaker 2: I'm always like, are they friends? Are they a cup

716
00:36:06,853 --> 00:36:09,253
Speaker 2: or do they hate each other? It's all of those

717
00:36:09,293 --> 00:36:11,573
Speaker 2: things could apply. But you know what I mean, I.

718
00:36:12,093 --> 00:36:14,733
Speaker 14: Think everything about it to is slightly clumsy.

719
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:19,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not elegant. They're not elegant until they stop flying. Yeah, exactly.

720
00:36:19,293 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 14: And they're just amazing. But even their song it's so

721
00:36:22,453 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 14: disjointed and amazing, but it's not harmonious.

722
00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:27,613
Speaker 11: Yeah.

723
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Speaker 14: There they seem to keep us geesing, I think, Joe, Yeah,

724
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:33,373
Speaker 14: but I was very envious of you, and just for

725
00:36:33,413 --> 00:36:35,413
Speaker 14: our listeners as well. I love the idea of your

726
00:36:35,413 --> 00:36:38,453
Speaker 14: sugar water. A friend of mine gets big oranges, she

727
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:41,213
Speaker 14: haves them, she puts them on a steak, and within

728
00:36:41,413 --> 00:36:47,653
Speaker 14: minutes they are being surrounded the oranges. So there you go.

729
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Speaker 2: We're going to keep moving, but thank you so much.

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740
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741
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742
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743
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Speaker 2: all think it's a bit strange, so no, I just

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Speaker 2: that's a really good point actually about people when relationships also,

746
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Speaker 2: you know, wanting a bit of their own time and

747
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Speaker 2: you know, appreciating a bit of solo time. I think

748
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Speaker 2: I think all of us do, don't we All of

749
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756
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763
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Speaker 2: music legend Julia Dean's with us in studio. It is

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Speaker 2: That voice ay so pure, so suck It's beautiful. One

770
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Speaker 2: of our Theodore's all time favorite bands, for Patrol is back.

771
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:29,213
Speaker 2: They first appeared back in nineteen ninety eight with their

772
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Speaker 2: sty Lifter EP and their Legacy Demands all sorts of

773
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Speaker 2: respect three albums and songs that top the charts in

774
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Speaker 2: the naughties. But for Patrol is going to be touring

775
00:39:38,933 --> 00:39:41,893
Speaker 2: New Zealand later this year. But the guitar the attitude

776
00:39:41,933 --> 00:39:45,213
Speaker 2: and that killer voice. Front woman Julia Dean's is with

777
00:39:45,373 --> 00:39:49,573
Speaker 2: us this morning, Kyoda, good morning, nice to be here. Yeah,

778
00:39:49,773 --> 00:39:52,613
Speaker 2: nice to see you in person, and fantastic to hear

779
00:39:52,653 --> 00:39:55,213
Speaker 2: that you guys are going to be playing on stage.

780
00:39:55,573 --> 00:39:57,733
Speaker 2: Is this the first time in two years? Am I right?

781
00:39:57,773 --> 00:39:58,213
Speaker 2: And thinking?

782
00:39:58,413 --> 00:39:58,693
Speaker 16: Yeah?

783
00:39:58,933 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 11: Or if you? Or the second time in a gazillion?

784
00:40:02,253 --> 00:40:02,453
Speaker 11: If you?

785
00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:06,053
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, so you last for Patrol, will last together

786
00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:08,773
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two? What was it about that experience

787
00:40:08,813 --> 00:40:12,373
Speaker 2: that made you think this would be fun and worthwhile?

788
00:40:13,493 --> 00:40:13,613
Speaker 4: Uh?

789
00:40:15,253 --> 00:40:15,453
Speaker 5: Too?

790
00:40:16,093 --> 00:40:18,973
Speaker 11: I think one of one of them. The fact one

791
00:40:19,013 --> 00:40:23,213
Speaker 11: of the things is that we just we're actually like siblings,

792
00:40:23,253 --> 00:40:25,333
Speaker 11: and when we get together, it's just it's like being

793
00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:27,733
Speaker 11: back in the family again, and everything just kind of

794
00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:31,693
Speaker 11: locks into place, and just all the stupidity happens, like

795
00:40:31,773 --> 00:40:36,893
Speaker 11: the good stupidity. And the other is, yeah, we just

796
00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:41,813
Speaker 11: and we loved play together. But also when we did

797
00:40:41,853 --> 00:40:49,133
Speaker 11: those shows for the pet anniversary tour, the feedback that

798
00:40:49,173 --> 00:40:51,133
Speaker 11: we were getting from the audience is just like it

799
00:40:51,213 --> 00:40:55,053
Speaker 11: was like walking into a big love fest. Everyone was

800
00:40:55,413 --> 00:40:58,933
Speaker 11: so excited and so happy. And I actually just posted

801
00:40:59,453 --> 00:41:01,573
Speaker 11: I was looking back through the photos that our friend

802
00:41:01,653 --> 00:41:04,973
Speaker 11: Nick took and came with us on the tour, and

803
00:41:05,013 --> 00:41:08,293
Speaker 11: he took all these amazing photos of the audience and

804
00:41:08,493 --> 00:41:12,813
Speaker 11: just the faces of utter joy and delight. I just

805
00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:14,853
Speaker 11: posted a whole lot of them on my Instagram the

806
00:41:14,853 --> 00:41:17,733
Speaker 11: other day because it was just like, these are beautiful

807
00:41:17,853 --> 00:41:21,693
Speaker 11: and I think get like little friendly goosebumpy feelings just

808
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:24,973
Speaker 11: thinking about it. It's just, you know, everyone sang all

809
00:41:24,973 --> 00:41:27,213
Speaker 11: the words, even to like the most obscure songs on

810
00:41:27,373 --> 00:41:30,733
Speaker 11: the record kind of thing. So we're hoping that we

811
00:41:30,773 --> 00:41:35,933
Speaker 11: can sort of generate that buzz again. And with our

812
00:41:35,973 --> 00:41:39,413
Speaker 11: second album, which was Collider, which is now twenty years old.

813
00:41:42,693 --> 00:41:44,933
Speaker 2: Come on, twenty years is nothing, Yeah, which.

814
00:41:44,973 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 11: Wasn't as commercially there's so much of a hit as

815
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 11: as pet but I don't know, we love it, Yeah,

816
00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:54,213
Speaker 11: we love it, and we know we've got people that

817
00:41:54,253 --> 00:41:55,773
Speaker 11: were messaging us after the last two.

818
00:41:57,853 --> 00:42:00,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, had you not anticipated that response?

819
00:42:01,693 --> 00:42:01,893
Speaker 17: Oh?

820
00:42:02,293 --> 00:42:04,693
Speaker 11: I think we were more thinking more about ourselves and

821
00:42:04,693 --> 00:42:06,613
Speaker 11: how much fun we were going to have. And then

822
00:42:06,653 --> 00:42:08,813
Speaker 11: once we you know, so like hit the stage and

823
00:42:09,133 --> 00:42:12,373
Speaker 11: just met everyone and you know, on the stage and

824
00:42:12,813 --> 00:42:15,413
Speaker 11: in the audience and that beautiful kind of bubble, it's

825
00:42:15,453 --> 00:42:20,933
Speaker 11: like that's right, that's what this is like. Yes, yeah,

826
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:24,813
Speaker 11: it's it's a good communal experience because it's not just

827
00:42:24,933 --> 00:42:27,493
Speaker 11: us having a blast, it's the fact that we look

828
00:42:27,573 --> 00:42:30,013
Speaker 11: down is everyone else having a blast, and then that

829
00:42:30,093 --> 00:42:31,933
Speaker 11: just makes us feel better, and then that makes them

830
00:42:31,933 --> 00:42:34,733
Speaker 11: feel better, and then you just got this little happy

831
00:42:34,773 --> 00:42:35,533
Speaker 11: feedback loop.

832
00:42:36,093 --> 00:42:37,613
Speaker 2: What does good stupidity look like?

833
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:47,333
Speaker 11: What it feels like? Sore core muscles? You know, when

834
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:50,053
Speaker 11: you've been laughing so hard that you just like stop.

835
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:53,133
Speaker 2: That is the best pain in the world. It is,

836
00:42:53,653 --> 00:42:55,853
Speaker 2: Isn't it an amazing feeling when you when you when

837
00:42:55,893 --> 00:43:00,213
Speaker 2: you literally you can feel the physical effect of having

838
00:43:00,413 --> 00:43:01,973
Speaker 2: having hung out with people you love.

839
00:43:02,173 --> 00:43:05,493
Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely. I mean you know you've been all that

840
00:43:05,533 --> 00:43:08,333
Speaker 11: time with your eyes screwed up tech because you slap

841
00:43:08,573 --> 00:43:12,133
Speaker 11: your mouth's open really wide, making these horrendous noises that

842
00:43:12,213 --> 00:43:12,933
Speaker 11: are great fun.

843
00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:17,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. Okay, so twenty years, So that means

844
00:43:17,773 --> 00:43:21,173
Speaker 2: that since nineteen ninety eight the style off th Ep,

845
00:43:21,493 --> 00:43:29,613
Speaker 2: your first big release is twenty six years Yeah, so yes,

846
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Speaker 2: h What is the kind of nostelgia element do you

847
00:43:34,453 --> 00:43:37,733
Speaker 2: think there's like a do you think for the you know,

848
00:43:37,773 --> 00:43:39,773
Speaker 2: for your for your fans, and for you guys, is it.

849
00:43:39,853 --> 00:43:42,413
Speaker 2: You know, there's a real kind of because the reason

850
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:44,693
Speaker 2: the reason I asked this is I went back and

851
00:43:44,693 --> 00:43:46,173
Speaker 2: listened to I actually want to look up a couple

852
00:43:46,173 --> 00:43:48,013
Speaker 2: of videos of videos on YouTube that I hadn't looked

853
00:43:48,053 --> 00:43:49,813
Speaker 2: up in ages, and I was looking at Lydia and

854
00:43:49,893 --> 00:43:51,293
Speaker 2: there was a comment. One of the top comments on

855
00:43:51,333 --> 00:43:55,773
Speaker 2: YouTube was someone who said, I'm from Japan and I

856
00:43:55,813 --> 00:43:58,333
Speaker 2: was an exchange student in New Zealand when this was released.

857
00:43:58,813 --> 00:44:02,333
Speaker 2: And it's amazing how this song to me just brings back,

858
00:44:02,373 --> 00:44:05,733
Speaker 2: you know, just brings back this incredible volume of memories

859
00:44:06,133 --> 00:44:08,893
Speaker 2: from that time. And I wondered how many times that

860
00:44:08,973 --> 00:44:11,213
Speaker 2: kind of story, doesn't have to be someone from overseas

861
00:44:11,293 --> 00:44:13,933
Speaker 2: or anything, has been repeated. And there's a kind of

862
00:44:13,973 --> 00:44:16,293
Speaker 2: that that that early aughts nostalgia.

863
00:44:16,413 --> 00:44:20,333
Speaker 11: Yeah. Often we get people, you know, have done for years,

864
00:44:20,333 --> 00:44:23,493
Speaker 11: people coming and saying, oh, may we played your song

865
00:44:23,533 --> 00:44:26,293
Speaker 11: at our wedding. Oh I remember I just moved to

866
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:29,693
Speaker 11: blah blah blah, I'd just broken up with somebody, you know,

867
00:44:29,773 --> 00:44:31,813
Speaker 11: all those sort of life moments. It's funny that somebody

868
00:44:31,933 --> 00:44:37,653
Speaker 11: told me years ago that you don't understand what nostalgia

869
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:42,773
Speaker 11: really is. Until about the age of forty. I think

870
00:44:43,053 --> 00:44:45,493
Speaker 11: somewhere around the age of forty was it just was

871
00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,933
Speaker 11: thinking about something and I was having that kind of like,

872
00:44:48,533 --> 00:44:53,773
Speaker 11: oh nice, sort of reminiscent thing. I went, oh my god, No,

873
00:44:53,813 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 11: I know what they meant. No, I really understand what

874
00:44:56,173 --> 00:44:58,453
Speaker 11: nostalgia actually is.

875
00:44:58,453 --> 00:45:00,533
Speaker 2: Is it better to have someone playing your song at

876
00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:02,533
Speaker 2: their wedding or through their breakup?

877
00:45:03,453 --> 00:45:03,613
Speaker 6: Oh?

878
00:45:03,733 --> 00:45:04,813
Speaker 2: Both, do you reckon?

879
00:45:05,013 --> 00:45:05,213
Speaker 11: Yeah?

880
00:45:05,293 --> 00:45:08,093
Speaker 2: Well, it's good that you can exist in both those spaces.

881
00:45:09,213 --> 00:45:13,093
Speaker 11: Yeah, I guess so well. Also, you know, particularly with Lydia,

882
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:17,293
Speaker 11: it's like you played this as if you heard the

883
00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:22,173
Speaker 11: lyrics as your wedding does so yeah, or somebody walks

884
00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:24,093
Speaker 11: down the aisle to it, it's like.

885
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:29,293
Speaker 2: You around moont Yeah. Yeah, it can be. It can

886
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:34,253
Speaker 2: be both pretty and stir said, I suppose.

887
00:45:34,053 --> 00:45:36,733
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I guess that's it is.

888
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:40,973
Speaker 11: You know, that whole idea of a song. It's like smell.

889
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:43,493
Speaker 11: I guess music can be like scent. You know, these

890
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:49,053
Speaker 11: things that trigger a whole cascade of memories and emotions.

891
00:45:49,213 --> 00:45:52,373
Speaker 11: You know, it's that same powerful thing, especially when you

892
00:45:52,373 --> 00:45:57,093
Speaker 11: hear something. I think it's like between your ment teens

893
00:45:57,173 --> 00:46:03,253
Speaker 11: to late twenties. That's a really formative time of life

894
00:46:03,293 --> 00:46:06,213
Speaker 11: and sort of and turning who you are and going

895
00:46:06,253 --> 00:46:08,013
Speaker 11: to be as an adult. And so I guess all

896
00:46:08,013 --> 00:46:14,133
Speaker 11: those experiences have this extra level of sinking in this

897
00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:15,653
Speaker 11: that's a technical.

898
00:46:15,853 --> 00:46:19,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they do. They're kind of foundational. Yeah yeah,

899
00:46:19,973 --> 00:46:23,013
Speaker 2: But don't they say that the whatever album you listen

900
00:46:23,053 --> 00:46:26,893
Speaker 2: to at seventeen, you'll be listening to at seventeen here. Yeah, yeah,

901
00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:30,093
Speaker 2: that's the that's the kind of whatever it is about

902
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:34,213
Speaker 2: that stage of life. I know you love them like brothers,

903
00:46:34,293 --> 00:46:37,293
Speaker 2: you said, Andrew and Simon, But what was it like

904
00:46:37,693 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 2: playing with them versus writing your own stuff and performing solo.

905
00:46:43,333 --> 00:46:48,013
Speaker 11: Oh it's it's way more companionable and fun and prone

906
00:46:48,013 --> 00:46:49,773
Speaker 11: to a little bickering. But that's okay.

907
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:53,493
Speaker 2: I think, what does what does a little bicker look like?

908
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:53,573
Speaker 12: What?

909
00:46:53,693 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 2: What? What's the sort of thing that you were bicker over?

910
00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:57,613
Speaker 2: Give us give us a sense of how trivia all

911
00:46:57,653 --> 00:46:58,053
Speaker 2: this bicker?

912
00:46:58,773 --> 00:46:58,933
Speaker 1: Oh?

913
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:03,933
Speaker 11: Man, I can't even define it. Just stupid things, right,

914
00:47:04,133 --> 00:47:05,773
Speaker 11: familiar things.

915
00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:08,253
Speaker 2: You didn't carry that at amp or like, No.

916
00:47:08,293 --> 00:47:12,413
Speaker 11: We're actually pretty We've always been reasonably good at reasonably

917
00:47:12,453 --> 00:47:15,813
Speaker 11: good at you know, the sharing of lugging air duties.

918
00:47:16,613 --> 00:47:18,933
Speaker 11: I guess maybe it was it's going to be the

919
00:47:18,973 --> 00:47:24,533
Speaker 11: SOMN drive, but which I think I dutifully should volunteer

920
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:27,693
Speaker 11: for more now because back when we were touring all

921
00:47:27,693 --> 00:47:29,933
Speaker 11: the time, I didn't actually have a license. I could drive,

922
00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:33,373
Speaker 11: but it wasn't licensed, so I didn't. I've managed to

923
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 11: shirk that.

924
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:39,253
Speaker 2: It feels like a real strategic move. Don't tell them, sorry, guys.

925
00:47:39,973 --> 00:47:44,613
Speaker 2: You know what I really love to Another thing that

926
00:47:44,693 --> 00:47:46,973
Speaker 2: struck me just just going back through YouTube, And I

927
00:47:47,013 --> 00:47:48,413
Speaker 2: don't know why I decided to do that, but I

928
00:47:48,493 --> 00:47:52,613
Speaker 2: just as you do, is how music videos used to

929
00:47:53,213 --> 00:47:56,373
Speaker 2: I feel like at that time, especially you know, in

930
00:47:56,453 --> 00:47:59,253
Speaker 2: the early aughts, music videos were such a kind of

931
00:47:59,253 --> 00:48:03,173
Speaker 2: central part of the art. Yeah, And I don't know,

932
00:48:03,253 --> 00:48:05,773
Speaker 2: maybe it just speaks to me being older and maybe

933
00:48:05,813 --> 00:48:09,693
Speaker 2: not as being it's up with it. I might once

934
00:48:09,933 --> 00:48:13,293
Speaker 2: have wished I was. But it feels like music videos

935
00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:14,933
Speaker 2: don't hold the same place.

936
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:16,973
Speaker 11: No, I don't think they do. And I think a

937
00:48:17,053 --> 00:48:22,013
Speaker 11: large part of that is because the avenues for playing

938
00:48:22,093 --> 00:48:24,653
Speaker 11: them have changed. So when when you used to make

939
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:30,533
Speaker 11: a video, you'd spend all this money on it, and

940
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:33,453
Speaker 11: and time and time and there were really only there

941
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:37,133
Speaker 11: was only music television to watch it on. So but

942
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:42,293
Speaker 11: which meant that it could actually earn sort of royalties

943
00:48:42,373 --> 00:48:44,213
Speaker 11: for the artists as well. So I guess it was.

944
00:48:45,253 --> 00:48:47,293
Speaker 11: But it was also part of that whole package off

945
00:48:47,333 --> 00:48:49,653
Speaker 11: you make a if you make a song single, you've

946
00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:51,253
Speaker 11: got to have a video to help sell it. Blah

947
00:48:51,253 --> 00:48:55,293
Speaker 11: blah blah. But now that I guess it's it's like

948
00:48:55,413 --> 00:48:59,413
Speaker 11: music streaming, the whole video streaming. There are more avenues,

949
00:48:59,493 --> 00:49:04,173
Speaker 11: but the pay per view kind of thing is is

950
00:49:04,213 --> 00:49:08,213
Speaker 11: dominating significantly smaller. Yeah, I mean that's that's my theory.

951
00:49:08,373 --> 00:49:12,093
Speaker 2: And do you think as a result that the kind

952
00:49:12,093 --> 00:49:17,213
Speaker 2: of artistic approach to music videos has probably been reduced

953
00:49:17,213 --> 00:49:20,013
Speaker 2: as well. That may be artists they don't don't see

954
00:49:20,013 --> 00:49:22,493
Speaker 2: as much value as they once did, and a really

955
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:24,133
Speaker 2: distinct video or Yeah.

956
00:49:24,013 --> 00:49:26,533
Speaker 11: I think. I think when you actually are going to

957
00:49:26,533 --> 00:49:29,453
Speaker 11: put the money into it, you tend to make sure

958
00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:33,053
Speaker 11: it's going to be good worth viewing and worth spending

959
00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:35,893
Speaker 11: that money on. Otherwise it's there's a whole lot of

960
00:49:35,933 --> 00:49:40,813
Speaker 11: like with a lyric, lyric videos or just seemi like

961
00:49:40,973 --> 00:49:44,853
Speaker 11: little thirty second videos to kind of get I guess

962
00:49:44,933 --> 00:49:49,933
Speaker 11: on social media and so forth, and then visualizers lots

963
00:49:49,933 --> 00:49:53,013
Speaker 11: of verse, I think, and then the you know, the

964
00:49:53,333 --> 00:49:57,013
Speaker 11: big cats at the top of the food pyramid music pyramid. Rather,

965
00:49:58,613 --> 00:50:00,493
Speaker 11: they tend to still put lots and lots of money

966
00:50:00,493 --> 00:50:04,053
Speaker 11: into right fancy music videos, and I still love watching

967
00:50:05,173 --> 00:50:09,333
Speaker 11: flashy music videos. I think it is it's nice that

968
00:50:09,333 --> 00:50:14,653
Speaker 11: that visual element to a song. There's something really I'm

969
00:50:14,693 --> 00:50:15,373
Speaker 11: magical in that.

970
00:50:16,893 --> 00:50:19,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what can we expeak from the shows?

971
00:50:19,173 --> 00:50:19,533
Speaker 11: Fun?

972
00:50:20,293 --> 00:50:23,973
Speaker 2: Good with the capital F you and only a small

973
00:50:24,013 --> 00:50:26,533
Speaker 2: amount of bickering from those on stage.

974
00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 11: Usually it's when I'm talking too much in between songs

975
00:50:29,773 --> 00:50:31,973
Speaker 11: and then just Simon just starts counting in with it.

976
00:50:32,813 --> 00:50:33,533
Speaker 2: Does he do that?

977
00:50:33,853 --> 00:50:34,813
Speaker 10: Yeah?

978
00:50:35,693 --> 00:50:36,093
Speaker 5: He always?

979
00:50:36,573 --> 00:50:38,133
Speaker 2: And do you ever like try and push him so,

980
00:50:38,253 --> 00:50:39,933
Speaker 2: like if he's trying to give you a forecaut you'll

981
00:50:40,013 --> 00:50:41,333
Speaker 2: just push it out and just say well.

982
00:50:42,613 --> 00:50:44,493
Speaker 11: I think probably more now than I used to. And

983
00:50:44,613 --> 00:50:46,613
Speaker 11: I think the problem from that is that I've gotten

984
00:50:46,653 --> 00:50:49,613
Speaker 11: used to being, you know, playing lots of solo things

985
00:50:49,733 --> 00:50:52,813
Speaker 11: where where I'm the bust or the only person on stage,

986
00:50:52,893 --> 00:50:55,893
Speaker 11: and so rather than the band waiting for me or

987
00:50:55,973 --> 00:51:00,733
Speaker 11: me waiting for me, Simon's just there, Oh, come on, and.

988
00:51:00,693 --> 00:51:02,533
Speaker 2: It's not just if he's if he's counting you in.

989
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:05,533
Speaker 2: It's if the count's actually subtly getting faster and faster

990
00:51:05,613 --> 00:51:11,093
Speaker 2: and faster. That's when you really need to worry. Yeah,

991
00:51:11,493 --> 00:51:13,213
Speaker 2: I look, I know, I know so many people are

992
00:51:13,253 --> 00:51:16,133
Speaker 2: going to be delighted that you guys are back playing live.

993
00:51:16,853 --> 00:51:19,573
Speaker 2: So many, so many people will be giving you those

994
00:51:19,693 --> 00:51:22,133
Speaker 2: same expressions that they did when you guys joined to

995
00:51:22,133 --> 00:51:24,493
Speaker 2: give a couple of years ago. So yeah, thank you

996
00:51:24,533 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 2: so much for giving us your time and good luck.

997
00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:27,933
Speaker 11: Oh, thank you, thanks for having me in.

998
00:51:29,013 --> 00:51:31,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it really has That is Julia Dean. She is,

999
00:51:31,293 --> 00:51:34,933
Speaker 2: of course the front woman for Fur Patrol. Fair Patrol

1000
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Speaker 2: are going to be performing in Littleton, Tarmackee, Makoto, Auckland,

1001
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Speaker 2: Nelson in September of this year. We'll have all the

1002
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Speaker 2: details dates for their shows and we can buy tickets

1003
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Speaker 2: at Newstalks headb dot co, dot m seed. Coming up

1004
00:51:47,693 --> 00:51:49,213
Speaker 2: this hour on News Talks, he'd be We're going to

1005
00:51:49,253 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 2: catch up with our doctor Brian Betty. He wants to

1006
00:51:51,973 --> 00:51:53,853
Speaker 2: talk to us about men's health. You'll be thinking, hang on,

1007
00:51:53,933 --> 00:51:56,613
Speaker 2: it's July. Men's health month is over, and that's kind

1008
00:51:56,693 --> 00:51:59,773
Speaker 2: of the point this morning. He doesn't want men's health

1009
00:51:59,773 --> 00:52:01,973
Speaker 2: to only be a focus for a month every year.

1010
00:52:02,493 --> 00:52:04,453
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of little points he wants to

1011
00:52:05,373 --> 00:52:07,173
Speaker 2: share with us this morning that could make a big

1012
00:52:07,173 --> 00:52:09,893
Speaker 2: difference to the lives of you or the men in

1013
00:52:09,933 --> 00:52:12,013
Speaker 2: your life. Next up, if you're looking for something good

1014
00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:15,453
Speaker 2: to watch this weekend, in between the Rugby, the Warriors,

1015
00:52:15,613 --> 00:52:19,373
Speaker 2: the Euros all that other amazing sport, good news, three

1016
00:52:19,413 --> 00:52:22,653
Speaker 2: fantastic shows to recommend in our screen time segment. Right now,

1017
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Speaker 2: it's twenty one past ten on Newstalks EDB.

1018
00:52:25,573 --> 00:52:28,693
Speaker 1: To start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with

1019
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Speaker 1: Jack Tay and Bpure dot co dot zet for high

1020
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1021
00:52:34,533 --> 00:52:37,653
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes past ten on News Talks EDB. Nick

1022
00:52:37,733 --> 00:52:40,093
Speaker 2: has flipped me an image of a car car in

1023
00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 2: his backyard that took over the towy feeder. He's in

1024
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:46,413
Speaker 2: Takapuna as well, so relatively relatively central rest of the

1025
00:52:46,573 --> 00:52:50,373
Speaker 2: urban wouldn't necessarily have expected to see KRCA there. Maybe

1026
00:52:50,373 --> 00:52:52,613
Speaker 2: a little bit further out western Auckland or out in

1027
00:52:52,653 --> 00:52:55,693
Speaker 2: the island somewhere, But you go, very good, Nick. If

1028
00:52:55,733 --> 00:52:57,933
Speaker 2: you can beat my seven twoy I think the record

1029
00:52:57,973 --> 00:53:00,173
Speaker 2: for the moment of thirty two, although we haven't seen

1030
00:53:00,173 --> 00:53:04,253
Speaker 2: photographic evidence. I've got six or seven twoy in my backyard,

1031
00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:07,453
Speaker 2: which I think is my record. I do have video

1032
00:53:07,493 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 2: evidence of it on my Facebook page if you want

1033
00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:12,093
Speaker 2: to go and check it out. Not AI altered either,

1034
00:53:13,293 --> 00:53:14,933
Speaker 2: but if you can do better than that, by all means,

1035
00:53:14,973 --> 00:53:18,053
Speaker 2: let us know. Jack. The lyrics for he Patrol's Modern

1036
00:53:18,053 --> 00:53:21,533
Speaker 2: Fable are insanely good. The musicality of that album is

1037
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:23,533
Speaker 2: amazing too. John's flick me a note to say Jack,

1038
00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:25,853
Speaker 2: I'm so going to be going to these concerts. Julia

1039
00:53:25,893 --> 00:53:29,293
Speaker 2: has just got the greatest laugh and Chris says, Ah,

1040
00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:31,973
Speaker 2: Jack Julius so much fun. Love that interview. Cannot wait

1041
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:34,013
Speaker 2: to see her. Patrol, Thank you for your message. Just

1042
00:53:34,053 --> 00:53:36,213
Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two is our text number if you

1043
00:53:36,253 --> 00:53:38,413
Speaker 2: want to get in touch Jack at News Talks, he'd

1044
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:42,693
Speaker 2: be dot co dot ZD is the email. Just screen

1045
00:53:42,813 --> 00:53:45,133
Speaker 2: Timetime on your Saturday morning. This is the time every

1046
00:53:45,133 --> 00:53:47,533
Speaker 2: week where we catch up with Tara Ward. She's our

1047
00:53:47,573 --> 00:53:50,173
Speaker 2: screen time expert. It's her job to bring us three

1048
00:53:50,213 --> 00:53:53,653
Speaker 2: shows every weekend. And I'm really excited at least about

1049
00:53:53,693 --> 00:53:56,893
Speaker 2: a couple of these. Tara, good Morning, Good Morning. Let's

1050
00:53:56,893 --> 00:54:00,573
Speaker 2: start off with the latest KIWI comedy drama. A lot

1051
00:54:00,573 --> 00:54:03,213
Speaker 2: of hype around this one. Tell us about Madam.

1052
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:06,613
Speaker 18: Yeah, a lot of hype around Madam, partly because it's

1053
00:54:06,653 --> 00:54:10,213
Speaker 18: already won two major international TV awards, one in Monte

1054
00:54:10,213 --> 00:54:12,733
Speaker 18: Carlo and one in Berlin, even before it had screened

1055
00:54:12,773 --> 00:54:15,373
Speaker 18: in New Zealand, so it's already been recognized as a

1056
00:54:15,373 --> 00:54:19,333
Speaker 18: as a pretty special show. It's inspired by a true story.

1057
00:54:19,373 --> 00:54:22,493
Speaker 18: It's about a woman who opened what she called an

1058
00:54:22,493 --> 00:54:25,253
Speaker 18: ethical brothel in Northland a few years ago, so a

1059
00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:27,733
Speaker 18: brothel that puts the safety and well being of the

1060
00:54:27,773 --> 00:54:30,893
Speaker 18: female sex workers first, and so this show runs with

1061
00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:33,133
Speaker 18: that idea. It's a mix of comedy and drama, and

1062
00:54:33,133 --> 00:54:36,093
Speaker 18: it's about an American woman named Mac who's played by

1063
00:54:36,173 --> 00:54:39,253
Speaker 18: Rachel Griffiths, who decides to set up her own ethical

1064
00:54:39,293 --> 00:54:42,253
Speaker 18: brothel in her small country town. She doesn't really know

1065
00:54:42,293 --> 00:54:45,093
Speaker 18: what she's doing, and she has to deal with complaining

1066
00:54:45,133 --> 00:54:48,413
Speaker 18: neighbors and staffing issues and the council and raising her

1067
00:54:48,453 --> 00:54:51,173
Speaker 18: family at the same time. So it's quite an unusual

1068
00:54:51,213 --> 00:54:53,533
Speaker 18: idea for a comedy drama. But as a TV show.

1069
00:54:53,613 --> 00:54:54,173
Speaker 2: It works.

1070
00:54:54,213 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 18: It's a very well made, very confident, very few piece

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Speaker 18: of television and it has this amazing cut. I mean,

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Speaker 18: Rachel Griffiths is the lead Academy Award nominee from Muriel's

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Speaker 18: Wedding and Six Feet Under, as well as Martin Henders

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Speaker 18: and Danielle Cormack Remateiata Robbie Makeaceiva just such a strong

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Speaker 18: and somber cast and you know, it's something different for

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Speaker 18: a local show, which is exciting in itself. It started

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Speaker 18: on three this week, but you can also catch that

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Speaker 18: streaming on three now as well.

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Speaker 17: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, really, yeah. It's great to see like a

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Speaker 2: couple of big New zeal The shows doing so well

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Speaker 2: after the Party series which was just amzing. Yeah. Awesome

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Speaker 2: to see me Adam doing so well.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: Next up on Disney Plus tell Us about Brats.

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Speaker 18: Yea, if you grew up watching iconic eighties movies like

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Speaker 18: The Breakfast Club or sint Elmo's Fire, then this is

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Speaker 18: the documentary for you. This is made by Andrew McCarthy

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Speaker 18: who was one of the Brat Pack of actors, and

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Speaker 18: the Brat Pack was this group of up and coming

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Speaker 18: young stars people like Emilio Estevez, Demi Moore, Rob Low,

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Speaker 18: Molly Ringwold, who all seemed to star in the same

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Speaker 18: movies at the same time and who were incredibly famous,

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Speaker 18: and when the term brat pack was made, it was

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Speaker 18: it immediately gave these actors a really bad reputation and

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Speaker 18: a label that some of them just couldn't through their career.

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Speaker 18: And Andrew McCarthy has struggled with that for forty years

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Speaker 18: and decides to meet up with some of his fellow brackpackers,

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Speaker 18: many of whom that he hasn't seen since the eighties,

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Speaker 18: to look back on that time in their lives, and

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Speaker 18: the whole documentary is sort of a therapy session for him.

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Speaker 18: He's obviously had quite a chip on her shoulder about it.

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Speaker 18: But what I loved about this is that it dives

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Speaker 18: back into the eighties pop culture scene when Hollywood had

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Speaker 18: just started to make movies for young people like Back

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Speaker 18: to Future and Risky Business, and movies were just so

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Speaker 18: important in pop culture at that time. Everyone went to

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Speaker 18: the movies, everyone kind of shared in that same that

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Speaker 18: same moment. So this is really nostalgic and thoughtful and

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Speaker 18: a great trip down memory lane and kind of you know,

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Speaker 18: you meet those movie stars that you sort of grew

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Speaker 18: up with in a completely different context, which is great,

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Speaker 18: very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Bratts. That's on Disney Plus. And a series

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Speaker 2: that my wife and I have watched this week Sprint

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Speaker 2: on Netflix.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is the latest in Netflix's sport documentary series Boom.

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00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:07,453
Speaker 18: And I know we talked about these kind of shows

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Speaker 18: a couple of weeks ago. Jack shows like Drive to

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Speaker 18: Survive or Tour de France Unchained. They take us behind

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Speaker 18: the scenes of a particular sport and they are full

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Speaker 18: of full of energy and fast paced with big personalities,

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Speaker 18: and Sprint is the latest of these series. This is

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Speaker 18: about the world of athletics, specifically one hundred and two

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Speaker 18: hundred meter runners, and it looks at what it takes

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Speaker 18: to be the fastest people in the world, the intensity

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Speaker 18: of the training, the psychology of it, all the mind games.

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Speaker 18: It talks to people like Usain Bolton Michael Johnson about

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Speaker 18: what you need to be so good over such a

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Speaker 18: short distance, and profiles a few of the athletes as

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Speaker 18: they train to be the very best and to get

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Speaker 18: to the Olympics. So it really immerses you in that world.

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Speaker 18: And I know with athletics, some of us might only

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Speaker 18: watch it every four years or so at the Olympics,

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Speaker 18: and with the Olympics only a few weeks away, this

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Speaker 18: is perfectly timed. You will become a sprinting armchi expert

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Speaker 18: in no time with us one.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that there is one of the funny

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00:58:01,613 --> 00:58:04,253
Speaker 2: things about these series, like you watch, you know, you

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Speaker 2: watch six hours with the television and all of us,

1141
00:58:06,413 --> 00:58:11,893
Speaker 2: and you've just believe that you've become qualified for ah,

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00:58:11,933 --> 00:58:13,693
Speaker 2: you know, he's just too slow out of the blocks

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00:58:13,693 --> 00:58:15,293
Speaker 2: there and needs to keep his head down to at

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Speaker 2: least the forty in And the other thing. My word

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Speaker 2: of caution when when watching these series is think very

1146
00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:24,333
Speaker 2: carefully about what stage of the evening you're watching them.

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00:58:24,333 --> 00:58:25,853
Speaker 2: Because my wife and I were curled up on the

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Speaker 2: couch the other night and I was onto my second

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Speaker 2: bowl of ice cream for the weekend, and you had

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00:58:30,413 --> 00:58:35,333
Speaker 2: these these elite sprinters ripping off their shirts and my

1151
00:58:35,373 --> 00:58:37,133
Speaker 2: wife I could sort of I could sort of see

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Speaker 2: her sitting up straight and the couch all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you know, intensely focused on the television as I was

1154
00:58:43,093 --> 00:58:48,173
Speaker 2: licking the hokey pokey, thinking oh, okay, yeah right. You know,

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Speaker 2: some of the physical specimens are a little bit intimidating

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Speaker 2: for us me immortals, but never mind aspirational as it's

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Speaker 2: aspirational TV. Exactly nice that we can yes share in

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a well a bit of a

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Speaker 2: fantasy life. I suppose Sprint is on Netflix, Spratt on

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Speaker 2: Disney plus, Madam is on three and three now and

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Speaker 2: all of those shows are on the News talks AB website.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to our screen time expert Tara.

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Speaker 2: We will see you next week. Right now, it's ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News talks AB.

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Speaker 17: Yes, she just leaves Beast found the.

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Speaker 2: Turn them back the hands of time. Ah, how good?

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Speaker 2: Remember this? This is Crawl from the Kiwi band Atlas.

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Speaker 2: This spent more than two months at number one back

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, and that was the first

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Speaker 2: time that had been achieved by a New Zealand artist

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Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty seven. And Dave Dobbins Slice Heaven. That's

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Speaker 2: remarkable a the single really launched the career of the

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Speaker 2: band at Keewe. Beth Campbell and American Sean Cunningham founded,

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Speaker 2: and now Sean Cunningham is stepping into the solo artist's

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Speaker 2: spotlight with a brand new album of his own. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a bit of a listen to that after

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock this morning. Be interesting to see how it

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Speaker 2: compares to Atlas's sound. Haven't heard a lot of Sean Cunningham,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to make sure we have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of time after eleven o'clock this morning and can

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Speaker 2: share that with you. Thanks for all your feedback. If

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Speaker 2: you want to send us a Messa this morning, ninety

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Speaker 2: two ninety two is our text number. Absolutely love that

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Speaker 2: interview with Julia Dean's This Morning Jack. She is such

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Speaker 2: a legendary musician and I'm really excited to see fur

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Speaker 2: Patrol on stage. Like you say that voice, that voice, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that voice. Before eleven o'clock this morning. Catch up with

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Speaker 2: our doctor, doctor Brian Betty. Next up, Amazon is making

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Speaker 2: a big new play into an area where they don't

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Speaker 2: usually muck around. They've decided to go with the company

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Speaker 2: that owns sacks for the Avenue, you know, the big

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Speaker 2: department store, the glitzy department store in New York, and

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Speaker 2: buy out some of the competitors. This deal is worth

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Speaker 2: billions and billions of dollars. So why is Amazon pursuing it?

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you all in a couple of minutes. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty five to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers The Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 19: Breakfast The government's new housing plan, funger Ami Vince Cocarillas.

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Speaker 19: Whether if the developers seed are profit in it, they will

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Speaker 19: do the infrastructure.

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Speaker 15: Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 13: So what we've done in oday is work at where

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Speaker 13: the infrastructure needs to be and put in place and

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Speaker 13: there own contributions. Now there are some councils for Doric

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Speaker 13: that we do so when it developers is ok, I'm

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Speaker 13: going to do development in this area. We put the

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Speaker 13: price on each property and so I glatly going towards

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Speaker 13: the infrastructure in the area and to then kick their

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Speaker 13: project so then it actually flowers for the points to

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Speaker 13: be upgraded, the roads to upgraded, and the weight side

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Speaker 13: of things.

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Speaker 19: You almost sound like you've got erect together in fung arrangments.

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Speaker 13: Now we've been working on at a long time, Mike,

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Speaker 13: A long time back.

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Speaker 19: Monday from six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar.

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Speaker 6: News Talk ZEDB twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Minutes to eleven on news Talk ZEDB, Netflix and Paramount

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Speaker 2: have asked Canadian courts to ditch a local news funding rule.

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Speaker 2: Now this rule is a little bit different to the

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Speaker 2: one that's being pursued by the government here, but it

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Speaker 2: could have big implications for news producers in Canada. Our

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Speaker 2: texpert Paul steinhouses here with the details. Hepe, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good morning Jack.

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Speaker 5: It's a timely conversation, isn't it, with the closure of

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Speaker 5: news Hub. And it's a really interesting one because it's

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Speaker 5: called the Online Streaming Act and it's in Canada, and

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Speaker 5: they are basically going after the biggest streaming services, those

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Speaker 5: who pull in more than twenty five million dollars Canadian

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Speaker 5: worth of revenue and who aren't affiliated with the domestic broadcasters.

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Speaker 2: So they're really looking at.

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Speaker 5: The real Netflixes of the world, the big internationals.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and they're going to take They're going to.

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Speaker 5: Put five percent tax on that revenue, which is a

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Speaker 5: pretty large number, right. They think they're going to pull

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Speaker 5: in about two hundred million dollars in funding, which they

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Speaker 5: are then going to go and put into what I

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Speaker 5: assume is like in New Zealand onni a type fund,

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Speaker 5: they're going to go towards creating local content, supporting black

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Speaker 5: and Indigenous creators. All of this sounds good.

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Speaker 14: And here's where it's weird.

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Speaker 5: The Motion Picture Association of Canada actually kind of says

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Speaker 5: that it's okay. They're kind of on board with it,

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Speaker 5: and I guess it's because they're probably going to be

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Speaker 5: creating content that could potentially end up on one of

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Speaker 5: their services, right.

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Speaker 2: But what they're here, yeah.

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Speaker 5: But what they're not interested in is a component of

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Speaker 5: that law where they need to fund local news.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, so about one point five.

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Speaker 5: Percent is actually is going to be going to local

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Speaker 5: news production. And these studios are saying that this news

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Speaker 5: content mandate is unreasonable. That's the word they use. They

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Speaker 5: said it's neither appropriate in consideration of the nature of

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Speaker 5: the services they provide, nor equitable. So what they're really

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Speaker 5: saying is that, hey, we we're happy to maybe think

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Speaker 5: about helping out if it's going to be entertainment, but

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Speaker 5: if it's somethin that we're not going to put on

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Speaker 5: our service, don't really want to do it. And they've

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Speaker 5: gone to the court to say strike it out. Because

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Speaker 5: this is supposed to go into law September one.

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Speaker 2: Well, look here's the thing. It's you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: people would say, oh, you have on that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if I put on If I try and look at

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Speaker 2: this critically, you can see why they Netflix is actually,

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Speaker 2: you know what we don't. We're not competing with news.

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Speaker 2: We're not sucking people away from news. We're not hoovering

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Speaker 2: up that information like maybe Google and Meta are doing

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Speaker 2: with their models. We're quite different. We're just providing entertainment.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's probably the reasonable argument to me idea.

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Speaker 5: But I think that the big piece that is probably

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Speaker 5: the the core of this argument is that news organizations

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Speaker 5: don't typically outside of usually morning shows in most parts

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Speaker 5: of the world, don't typically make a lot of money,

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Speaker 5: and so they're actually like that content's like the lost leader, right,

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Speaker 5: So I think, how else are you going to fund news?

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Speaker 5: I actually think it's quite an interesting kind of dance

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Speaker 5: stuff done. I really like as well that they're targeting

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Speaker 5: the big streamers and not yet you know, the new

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Speaker 5: not the niche ones, but they've kind of gone.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be So Amazon is getting into the

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Speaker 2: luxury department store gain by pairing up with Sex fifth Avenue.

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Speaker 2: This was a real surprise.

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Speaker 5: Sex fifth Avenue is going to be buying Neman Markets.

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Speaker 5: They've been competitors for years and years. There's been a

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Speaker 5: lot of consolidation in the luxury space. The number of

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Speaker 5: department store brands is dwindled. In fact, hum of department

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01:05:32,133 --> 01:05:34,333
Speaker 5: stores period have. I guess I've dwindled here in the

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Speaker 5: States that What was really surprising to me was the

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Speaker 5: line that said the parent of sex forth is in

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Speaker 5: partnership with Amazon. I thought that's interesting. They're spending two

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Speaker 5: point sixty five billion, right, so effectively Amazon's buying into

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Speaker 5: the parent company of Sax together that they're buying Neman Marcus.

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Speaker 2: And then even.

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Speaker 5: More bizarre is that they've got sales Force as part

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Speaker 5: of this deal too. Like they are a very minor stakeholder,

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Speaker 5: but they don't usually do anything outside of sort of

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01:06:01,413 --> 01:06:04,453
Speaker 5: software startups and things that are related to the customer

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01:06:04,533 --> 01:06:08,013
Speaker 5: relationship management world. So that was really prising. But Amazon's

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01:06:08,053 --> 01:06:13,573
Speaker 5: Mijorready Steake is going to come with technology and logistical expertise.

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Speaker 6: Now that's interesting.

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01:06:16,373 --> 01:06:19,733
Speaker 5: Right because they have now basically put a value on

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01:06:19,893 --> 01:06:23,293
Speaker 5: what they do and are bringing that into the business deal.

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Speaker 5: And I think another thing that kind of underscored for

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01:06:26,133 --> 01:06:29,093
Speaker 5: me just how important the online market is in this

1306
01:06:29,173 --> 01:06:32,973
Speaker 5: new venture is that the guy who runs the online

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01:06:33,013 --> 01:06:37,333
Speaker 5: store for sex, he's going to be the CEO of

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01:06:37,373 --> 01:06:40,493
Speaker 5: this new combined company towards Sex Global. So it's almost

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01:06:40,493 --> 01:06:42,693
Speaker 5: like they're saying goodbye in person. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: in the press release, they actually said they were most

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01:06:45,213 --> 01:06:49,973
Speaker 5: interested in this company because of their large footprint, because

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Speaker 5: they do believe that when you're in the luxury market,

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01:06:52,373 --> 01:06:55,053
Speaker 5: it's a little different to when you're just buying a

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01:06:55,093 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 5: T shirt. With nine ninety nine, you actually want to

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01:06:57,573 --> 01:06:59,973
Speaker 5: partner with the sales associate. You want them to know

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01:07:00,013 --> 01:07:03,133
Speaker 5: what they're talking about, and chances are you probably want

1317
01:07:03,133 --> 01:07:05,373
Speaker 5: to feel it, touch it, and maybe try it on

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01:07:05,453 --> 01:07:07,693
Speaker 5: before you go and spend literally thousands of dollars on

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Speaker 5: some of these items.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair cool. It'd be very interesting watch the space.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. That's that expert Paul's Stenhouse seventeen to eleven,

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Speaker 2: According to eleven on Newstalks EDB, Men's Health Week was

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago in June, but we want

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Speaker 2: to talk about it now because men's health shouldn't just

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01:07:34,413 --> 01:07:37,253
Speaker 2: be a week, it should be every single week. And

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Speaker 2: doctor Brian Betty is with us this morning. Kiler, Brian,

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01:07:39,973 --> 01:07:42,813
Speaker 2: why is men's health so important?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I think there's some real underlying statistics that

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01:07:46,973 --> 01:07:50,373
Speaker 3: are really important to reflect on. You know, there's big

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Speaker 3: studies overseas that show that men are twice as likely

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01:07:53,893 --> 01:07:56,653
Speaker 3: as women never to have visited their doctor or GP,

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Speaker 3: that three times is likely not to have seen their

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01:08:00,333 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 3: GP in the last five years. And in New Zealand,

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01:08:03,453 --> 01:08:05,933
Speaker 3: men die three and a half years younger than woman.

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01:08:06,533 --> 01:08:09,853
Speaker 3: They also developed things like heart disease ten years earlier,

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Speaker 3: they develop diabetes earlier. So they've got this cluster of

1341
01:08:13,413 --> 01:08:16,813
Speaker 3: things that go on that are really really important and

1342
01:08:16,853 --> 01:08:21,453
Speaker 3: it should be a concern that we think about. We

1343
01:08:21,533 --> 01:08:23,733
Speaker 3: think about men's health and we think about all the time.

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Speaker 2: So for the guys who are listening now, or people

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01:08:26,293 --> 01:08:28,213
Speaker 2: who have guys in their life who maybe have put

1346
01:08:28,253 --> 01:08:30,493
Speaker 2: off that trip to the doctor for a little too long.

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01:08:30,533 --> 01:08:32,413
Speaker 2: Why should they be visiting their GP.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think one of the big reasons, and

1349
01:08:35,813 --> 01:08:39,453
Speaker 3: then it's this cluster of hidden health problems that can

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01:08:39,493 --> 01:08:42,893
Speaker 3: start to develop over time early on, and if we

1351
01:08:42,973 --> 01:08:45,293
Speaker 3: don't go to see our GP, if we don't go

1352
01:08:45,333 --> 01:08:47,693
Speaker 3: to see our doctor, we won't know about them. And

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01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:51,493
Speaker 3: early intervention is really really important. So there's three in

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01:08:51,533 --> 01:08:55,053
Speaker 3: particular that are a great concern. One is cholesterol, So

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01:08:55,373 --> 01:08:57,253
Speaker 3: if you don't get a blood test, if you don't

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01:08:57,293 --> 01:08:59,613
Speaker 3: see your doctor, you don't know that you may have

1357
01:08:59,653 --> 01:09:02,813
Speaker 3: a cholesterol problem. And cholesterols those fats that flow around

1358
01:09:02,813 --> 01:09:06,293
Speaker 3: to the bloodstream and clog up heart vessels in particular

1359
01:09:06,413 --> 01:09:09,293
Speaker 3: and can cause heart attacks. So I mentioned that men

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01:09:09,613 --> 01:09:12,933
Speaker 3: have heart disease ten years earlier. That's one of the

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01:09:12,973 --> 01:09:15,093
Speaker 3: reasons that occurs. So we need to check for that

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01:09:15,253 --> 01:09:19,053
Speaker 3: quite regularly. The other one is sugars, which can lead

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01:09:19,053 --> 01:09:21,373
Speaker 3: to diabetes. So when sugars start to go up in

1364
01:09:21,413 --> 01:09:24,373
Speaker 3: the bloodstream, they can start to damage the heart, they

1365
01:09:24,413 --> 01:09:26,453
Speaker 3: can start to damage the kidneys, they can start to

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01:09:26,533 --> 01:09:29,573
Speaker 3: damage the nervous system. And the thing is we don't

1367
01:09:29,773 --> 01:09:32,693
Speaker 3: know it's happening until we test it. So it's really

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01:09:32,693 --> 01:09:35,333
Speaker 3: really important. And the third one is what's called the

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01:09:35,373 --> 01:09:38,533
Speaker 3: silent killer, and that's blood pressure. So again unless we

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01:09:38,613 --> 01:09:41,413
Speaker 3: test our blood pressure over time, we don't know it's

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01:09:41,453 --> 01:09:44,293
Speaker 3: going up. And again that can lead to stroke, heart attacks,

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01:09:44,293 --> 01:09:46,893
Speaker 3: and kidney damage. So these things are hidden. That's called

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01:09:46,893 --> 01:09:49,813
Speaker 3: the silent hits. And unless we go we don't know

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Speaker 3: it's happening. And early is better than late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And of course there are a couple

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01:09:54,413 --> 01:09:57,173
Speaker 2: of other issues that men in particular should be concerned

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01:09:57,173 --> 01:09:58,053
Speaker 2: about or aware of.

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01:09:59,013 --> 01:10:02,013
Speaker 3: Well, probably the big one is the prostate. And again

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01:10:02,213 --> 01:10:05,013
Speaker 3: from about the age of fifty onwards, I think you

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01:10:05,173 --> 01:10:07,853
Speaker 3: do need to be going too here gp having a

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01:10:07,973 --> 01:10:10,693
Speaker 3: chat about whether you should get a prostate examination, which

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01:10:10,733 --> 01:10:13,653
Speaker 3: is basically a simple blood test and look at the

1383
01:10:13,653 --> 01:10:15,973
Speaker 3: finger up the back passage as everyone talks about, to

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01:10:16,053 --> 01:10:20,613
Speaker 3: check that the prostate's healthier normal size, because again early

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01:10:20,693 --> 01:10:24,733
Speaker 3: detection of prostate problems leads to cure. If you leave

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01:10:24,773 --> 01:10:27,173
Speaker 3: it till it's late, it's often too late, and that's

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01:10:27,213 --> 01:10:29,973
Speaker 3: the problem we run into. The other one that's just

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01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,373
Speaker 3: started to happen is bowl screening, So you get a

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01:10:32,453 --> 01:10:34,853
Speaker 3: kit through the mail every two years. It's a little

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01:10:34,933 --> 01:10:37,173
Speaker 3: pooh sample you have to do, you send it away

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01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:40,213
Speaker 3: and if there's little changes in that they we can

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01:10:40,013 --> 01:10:42,893
Speaker 3: then progress you to the specialist to examine the bowel

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01:10:43,213 --> 01:10:45,933
Speaker 3: and look for any changes that may lead to bowel cancer.

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01:10:46,093 --> 01:10:50,573
Speaker 3: So again, it detects problems early. There's just a couple

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01:10:50,573 --> 01:10:52,653
Speaker 3: of other ones that I think are worth mentioning. I

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01:10:52,693 --> 01:10:56,213
Speaker 3: think skin checks, especially if you're in the country or

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01:10:56,253 --> 01:10:58,733
Speaker 3: a farmer. I think once a year going to see

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Speaker 3: a GP for a skin check is really very important

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01:11:01,373 --> 01:11:03,693
Speaker 3: for those early signs of skin cancer.

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Speaker 4: And the other big.

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Speaker 3: One which men are really reticent with is you know,

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01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:11,573
Speaker 3: sort of if you're feeling down, if you're feeling anxious,

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01:11:11,613 --> 01:11:14,573
Speaker 3: if you're feeling a bit depressed, often a good thing

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01:11:14,653 --> 01:11:16,693
Speaker 3: to do is just look, go to your GP, go

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01:11:16,813 --> 01:11:19,413
Speaker 3: to your doctor and have a chat about it, because

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01:11:19,453 --> 01:11:21,173
Speaker 3: again we can do things about that.

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01:11:21,253 --> 01:11:24,573
Speaker 2: Okay, a simple question, but maybe then maybe a bit

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01:11:24,613 --> 01:11:27,053
Speaker 2: so let that but how often should men go for

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01:11:27,093 --> 01:11:28,573
Speaker 2: a check out? When should we be going?

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01:11:29,413 --> 01:11:29,613
Speaker 4: Look?

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01:11:29,733 --> 01:11:32,213
Speaker 3: Really good question. Look, I think from the age of fifty,

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01:11:32,493 --> 01:11:34,693
Speaker 3: I think you should be going once a year, right,

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01:11:34,773 --> 01:11:37,693
Speaker 3: because what we know about cholesterol, sugars and blood pressure,

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01:11:37,733 --> 01:11:39,253
Speaker 3: they tend to go up as we get older, so

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01:11:39,333 --> 01:11:41,013
Speaker 3: I think you need to keep on top of that.

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01:11:41,053 --> 01:11:43,573
Speaker 3: So yearly from the age of fifty and from about

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Speaker 3: the age of thirty, I think every two to five years,

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01:11:46,173 --> 01:11:49,213
Speaker 3: depending on what's going on, is really really a wise

1419
01:11:49,253 --> 01:11:52,013
Speaker 3: thing to do. So I think you know, with all

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01:11:52,093 --> 01:11:56,933
Speaker 3: these things, early detection actually saves lives, It leads to

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Speaker 3: cure rather than leaving things late. So I think getting

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Speaker 3: into the habit of doing that from about the age

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Speaker 3: of thirty onwards, and certainly from the age of fifty

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Speaker 3: every year, I think you should be going and just

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01:12:07,813 --> 01:12:10,173
Speaker 3: having a chat and looking at what needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is just great advice. Thank you so much, Brian.

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Speaker 2: What we're going to do is we'll make sure we

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Speaker 2: clip up Brian there and we put them on the

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Speaker 2: Newstalk's He'd be website. If there's someone in your life

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01:12:18,813 --> 01:12:22,213
Speaker 2: who should be hearing Brian's message there but maybe didn't

1431
01:12:22,373 --> 01:12:23,933
Speaker 2: or is a bit too proud, you can just send

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01:12:23,973 --> 01:12:25,653
Speaker 2: them that little link and no one needs to be

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Speaker 2: any the wiser. Newstalks he'db dot co dot indeed is

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Speaker 2: the best place to go for that. It is ten

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Speaker 2: to eleven non Newstalks he'd.

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Speaker 1: Be gardening with still Shop free accessories this winter at

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Speaker 1: still Shop.

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Speaker 2: Eight to eleven non newstalks. He'd be here. He is

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01:12:39,453 --> 01:12:42,293
Speaker 2: the hero of the hour, rude climb past our man

1440
01:12:42,373 --> 01:12:45,373
Speaker 2: in the garden. Go and get a bird feeder, he said,

1441
01:12:45,413 --> 01:12:48,213
Speaker 2: it'll perk you up. My goodness, has it added a

1442
01:12:48,213 --> 01:12:50,213
Speaker 2: bit of a bit of life to my backyard?

1443
01:12:50,613 --> 01:12:52,973
Speaker 15: I know this seth was absolutely lovely to hear you.

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01:12:53,093 --> 01:12:55,293
Speaker 15: It was so gorgeous because this is what I did

1445
01:12:55,373 --> 01:12:57,013
Speaker 15: with the kids as well at school, and it is

1446
01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:58,413
Speaker 15: exactly what it's about.

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Speaker 6: My lovely.

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01:12:59,773 --> 01:13:02,253
Speaker 2: My wife is she's got she's become concerned that there's

1449
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:05,493
Speaker 2: too much, that there are too many birds, like they're

1450
01:13:05,493 --> 01:13:07,733
Speaker 2: all squobbling to be over there the whole time. So

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01:13:08,133 --> 01:13:10,373
Speaker 2: the silver eyes will come down. There'll be like six

1452
01:13:10,453 --> 01:13:12,333
Speaker 2: or eight of them, you know, all on the little platform,

1453
01:13:12,333 --> 01:13:14,013
Speaker 2: and then a couple of two you will sweep down

1454
01:13:14,053 --> 01:13:15,613
Speaker 2: and push them out of the way. And then she's

1455
01:13:15,653 --> 01:13:18,173
Speaker 2: concerned that there are you know, that it's kind of

1456
01:13:18,213 --> 01:13:20,293
Speaker 2: standing room only for the silver eyes and they can

1457
01:13:20,333 --> 01:13:21,853
Speaker 2: you know, there are a couple who are getting squeezed

1458
01:13:21,893 --> 01:13:24,173
Speaker 2: off to the sides the runts of the of the

1459
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:26,653
Speaker 2: flock perhaps aren't getting it fed. It's that popular. As

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01:13:26,693 --> 01:13:27,493
Speaker 2: my point, and I've.

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Speaker 15: Got I've got a very quick idea for you here.

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01:13:31,013 --> 01:13:34,213
Speaker 15: Instead of giving the silver eyes that particular sweet stuff,

1463
01:13:34,693 --> 01:13:38,133
Speaker 15: get a ball from the mad butcher, a big meat ball.

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01:13:38,173 --> 01:13:40,293
Speaker 15: Hang that up just a bit further up and the

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01:13:40,373 --> 01:13:42,733
Speaker 15: tooies won't eat that, but the silver ice will have

1466
01:13:42,773 --> 01:13:44,413
Speaker 15: their own. Good there you.

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Speaker 2: Go, Goody.

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Speaker 15: And something else that's really cool. You were talking about

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01:13:48,373 --> 01:13:51,773
Speaker 15: the aggression of Towi. Well, Gerald and Katie and they're

1470
01:13:51,813 --> 01:13:54,013
Speaker 15: in great Berry. They've got a market garden there. They've

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01:13:54,053 --> 01:13:55,573
Speaker 15: got trouble with Karka.

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01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:56,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

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01:13:56,773 --> 01:14:01,253
Speaker 15: Eating eat, you know, pushing everything away. But Touwi when

1474
01:14:01,293 --> 01:14:04,013
Speaker 15: they when they get Towey there with flex for instance,

1475
01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:08,253
Speaker 15: they will chase the kraka away. Do not underestimate the

1476
01:14:08,693 --> 01:14:11,973
Speaker 15: sense of humor. They go through your skin and it hurts.

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01:14:13,093 --> 01:14:17,013
Speaker 2: That's amazing. We will take out the carca. Yep. I've

1478
01:14:17,053 --> 01:14:19,253
Speaker 2: got a real soft spot for carca because I think

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01:14:19,293 --> 01:14:22,373
Speaker 2: that they are the most dinosaury of New Zealand birds.

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01:14:22,813 --> 01:14:25,333
Speaker 2: They just look the way they There's something about their

1481
01:14:25,733 --> 01:14:28,733
Speaker 2: posture and the way, especially when they're on the hudder kicker,

1482
01:14:28,933 --> 01:14:30,853
Speaker 2: you know, they just they kind of and the way

1483
01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:32,973
Speaker 2: if they spin around one hundred and eighty degrees at

1484
01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:36,253
Speaker 2: a time when they standard gun. Anyway, we are talking

1485
01:14:36,253 --> 01:14:38,653
Speaker 2: about disruptors this morning. Yeah, disruptors.

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01:14:38,653 --> 01:14:41,653
Speaker 15: Well, look, my sister sent me a wonderful photograph of

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01:14:41,733 --> 01:14:44,813
Speaker 15: a big slug coming out of her robotic lawn mower,

1488
01:14:45,013 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 15: which he named Elbetta's probably after my brother or our brother,

1489
01:14:48,493 --> 01:14:51,053
Speaker 15: but that's another story. And it came out there and

1490
01:14:51,093 --> 01:14:53,773
Speaker 15: it sort of showed itself there. That was amazing. And

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01:14:54,533 --> 01:14:57,573
Speaker 15: she immediately linked this to a disaster because when she

1492
01:14:57,653 --> 01:15:01,893
Speaker 15: came back from holiday in South I think South Francis

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01:15:01,973 --> 01:15:06,013
Speaker 15: was something Alberta's had not mowed a blade of grass

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Speaker 15: and so, yes, she thought the slugs had been you know,

1495
01:15:11,293 --> 01:15:15,613
Speaker 15: I don't know, done something. Sister, yeah, taken over. And

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01:15:15,653 --> 01:15:17,853
Speaker 15: then she says, and then so so because she's a

1497
01:15:17,933 --> 01:15:20,453
Speaker 15: handy little little girl, she is, or old girl really,

1498
01:15:20,453 --> 01:15:22,653
Speaker 15: but anyway, the handy girls. She had a look and

1499
01:15:22,693 --> 01:15:25,573
Speaker 15: she found that inside the thing were not just slugs,

1500
01:15:25,853 --> 01:15:28,813
Speaker 15: but also amazing amounts of ants.

1501
01:15:29,293 --> 01:15:30,893
Speaker 2: They had literally.

1502
01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:35,613
Speaker 15: They had literally made a nest there. Yeah, absolutely, and

1503
01:15:35,693 --> 01:15:38,373
Speaker 15: so she's she basically got rid of these ants, and

1504
01:15:38,733 --> 01:15:41,253
Speaker 15: the thing winked again, and that reminded me of a

1505
01:15:41,293 --> 01:15:44,013
Speaker 15: little trick that ants play sometimes, and I've headed a

1506
01:15:44,013 --> 01:15:48,213
Speaker 15: couple of times myself that ants go inside your house

1507
01:15:48,613 --> 01:15:52,613
Speaker 15: and sometimes crawl into let's say a light switch and

1508
01:15:52,653 --> 01:15:56,133
Speaker 15: when yeah, that happens, that happens quite a lot, and

1509
01:15:56,213 --> 01:15:59,253
Speaker 15: these things then basically they do calisthenics or something. They

1510
01:15:59,253 --> 01:16:03,573
Speaker 15: do this I don't know whatever, and they actually shortcut

1511
01:16:03,693 --> 01:16:07,213
Speaker 15: the whole light switch by going from the positive to

1512
01:16:07,253 --> 01:16:12,853
Speaker 15: the negative poll and as soon as you just switch

1513
01:16:12,933 --> 01:16:16,253
Speaker 15: the light on, you and the sparks everywhere.

1514
01:16:16,333 --> 01:16:18,933
Speaker 2: It's amazing. But then they then they because they released

1515
01:16:18,933 --> 01:16:22,173
Speaker 2: their like scenes pheromones when they're when they're freaking out.

1516
01:16:22,253 --> 01:16:25,573
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, that's right, the asset and that means help me,

1517
01:16:25,653 --> 01:16:26,333
Speaker 15: help me, So.

1518
01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:31,173
Speaker 2: All the other all run and chain reaction.

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01:16:31,773 --> 01:16:33,533
Speaker 15: I just want to say, this is what happens in

1520
01:16:33,573 --> 01:16:36,173
Speaker 15: the wind, to be careful for ants in your switch box.

1521
01:16:36,213 --> 01:16:39,533
Speaker 2: That's I didn't know that. I mean, they do get

1522
01:16:39,533 --> 01:16:42,213
Speaker 2: everywhere there. They're one of those like I always look

1523
01:16:42,213 --> 01:16:45,093
Speaker 2: at ants and just go, man, you are so incredibly

1524
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:48,773
Speaker 2: well adapted. You're remarkably well adapted. And yet's so annoying,

1525
01:16:49,373 --> 01:16:53,213
Speaker 2: so annoying. Hey, thank you so much, rude and go well,

1526
01:16:53,333 --> 01:16:54,173
Speaker 2: I love, I love.

1527
01:16:54,253 --> 01:16:55,213
Speaker 15: The story is brilliant.

1528
01:16:55,253 --> 01:16:57,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for the for the bird

1529
01:16:57,133 --> 01:17:00,973
Speaker 2: feeder recommendation. That has been amazing. And of course the

1530
01:17:01,053 --> 01:17:05,093
Speaker 2: Great Bird Survey Household bird Survey is currently underway at

1531
01:17:05,093 --> 01:17:06,693
Speaker 2: the moment, So if you want to take a little

1532
01:17:06,693 --> 01:17:08,533
Speaker 2: bit of time in your afternoon go count the native

1533
01:17:08,533 --> 01:17:10,373
Speaker 2: birds at your place. That would be a wonderful thing

1534
01:17:10,413 --> 01:17:13,653
Speaker 2: to help our biodiversity. After eleven o'clock this morning, oh

1535
01:17:13,693 --> 01:17:17,533
Speaker 2: this is amazing. Our sustainability commentator is trying to make

1536
01:17:17,573 --> 01:17:21,413
Speaker 2: it through a year only eating New Zealand made food.

1537
01:17:21,613 --> 01:17:25,053
Speaker 2: She's passed halfway now, so how hard is it? News

1538
01:17:25,173 --> 01:17:26,413
Speaker 2: is next on News Dogs.

1539
01:17:26,213 --> 01:17:31,893
Speaker 1: EDB Saturday mornings with Jack tam keeping the conversation going

1540
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:35,133
Speaker 1: through the weekend with depure dot cot in here for

1541
01:17:35,213 --> 01:17:37,413
Speaker 1: high quality supplements use dogs.

1542
01:17:37,333 --> 01:18:05,893
Speaker 2: B Nothing like first All Blacks test day of the year.

1543
01:18:06,533 --> 01:18:08,493
Speaker 2: Cannot wait for seven o'clock lace even I thought, I

1544
01:18:08,533 --> 01:18:12,493
Speaker 2: thought Scott Robinson's first team as all back coach made

1545
01:18:12,493 --> 01:18:15,653
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. Not huge surprises. Petal feed at

1546
01:18:15,653 --> 01:18:17,693
Speaker 2: fifteen is a little bit of a surprise. I thought,

1547
01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:20,213
Speaker 2: but I reckon. Damien McKenzie certainly earned that ten Jersey.

1548
01:18:20,413 --> 01:18:22,493
Speaker 2: We're going to catch up with Jason Pine for what

1549
01:18:22,613 --> 01:18:26,333
Speaker 2: is a massive weekend of sport very shortly. He'll be

1550
01:18:26,413 --> 01:18:28,533
Speaker 2: joining us with his thoughts on that as well as that.

1551
01:18:28,613 --> 01:18:30,493
Speaker 2: Before midday today, we're going to play some new music

1552
01:18:30,493 --> 01:18:34,253
Speaker 2: from Sean Cunningham. He was part of the band Atlas

1553
01:18:34,733 --> 01:18:38,133
Speaker 2: that were massive in New Zealand like fifteen years ago

1554
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:40,373
Speaker 2: a wee while ago. Now Sewan has just gone solo

1555
01:18:40,573 --> 01:18:42,293
Speaker 2: and we're going to have a little bit of a

1556
01:18:42,293 --> 01:18:44,253
Speaker 2: listen to his solo project as well as that. We're

1557
01:18:44,253 --> 01:18:46,333
Speaker 2: taking a cruise in the Greek Islands with our travel

1558
01:18:46,373 --> 01:18:50,013
Speaker 2: correspondent very shortly. Right now it is eight minutes past eleven.

1559
01:18:50,613 --> 01:18:56,613
Speaker 2: Jack Team and our sustainability commentator Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate,

1560
01:18:56,933 --> 01:19:00,573
Speaker 2: is with us this morning. Kilda, good mind. We are

1561
01:19:00,693 --> 01:19:03,773
Speaker 2: now officially in the second half of twenty twenty four,

1562
01:19:03,813 --> 01:19:08,093
Speaker 2: which means we are officially more than halfway through your

1563
01:19:08,173 --> 01:19:12,293
Speaker 2: New Zealand Made Food Challenge. Just for people who don't

1564
01:19:12,333 --> 01:19:14,453
Speaker 2: understand what you're trying to do this year, give us

1565
01:19:14,453 --> 01:19:17,013
Speaker 2: the basics. What are you trying to achieve so.

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01:19:17,053 --> 01:19:22,253
Speaker 10: Since the first of January, I have purchased only New

1567
01:19:22,333 --> 01:19:27,133
Speaker 10: Zealand made food. So when I'm shopping to make growthries,

1568
01:19:27,493 --> 01:19:30,653
Speaker 10: it has to be made in New Zealand, preferably grown

1569
01:19:30,973 --> 01:19:34,373
Speaker 10: that's made in New Zealand, meaning you know, sometimes you

1570
01:19:34,373 --> 01:19:37,253
Speaker 10: can't get everything grown to New Zealand. Used to say,

1571
01:19:37,293 --> 01:19:40,653
Speaker 10: like a music or something may have some important also

1572
01:19:40,733 --> 01:19:43,053
Speaker 10: local ingredients made in New Zealand.

1573
01:19:43,293 --> 01:19:47,973
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, first of all, why why yes?

1574
01:19:49,293 --> 01:19:52,293
Speaker 10: So that I can challenge myself to understand what we

1575
01:19:52,333 --> 01:19:55,053
Speaker 10: make here in New Zealand, so I can really really

1576
01:19:55,533 --> 01:19:57,933
Speaker 10: you know, what different crops we have or don't have,

1577
01:19:58,373 --> 01:20:02,293
Speaker 10: so I can support and discover small New Zealand maids

1578
01:20:02,333 --> 01:20:06,133
Speaker 10: businesses and just yeah, change out my diet a bit

1579
01:20:06,173 --> 01:20:08,413
Speaker 10: to just be a lot more local.

1580
01:20:08,933 --> 01:20:11,733
Speaker 2: I mean that is actually really cool, Like I I

1581
01:20:11,813 --> 01:20:14,293
Speaker 2: in theory, I love the idea of being more connected

1582
01:20:14,333 --> 01:20:19,533
Speaker 2: to the seasons and to the produce that is available

1583
01:20:19,573 --> 01:20:21,813
Speaker 2: in New Zealand and that kind of thing. But the

1584
01:20:21,813 --> 01:20:24,093
Speaker 2: more I think about it, the trickier it seems it

1585
01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:26,373
Speaker 2: would really be so so, like to give me an example,

1586
01:20:26,973 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 2: would you eat anything with refined sugar in it?

1587
01:20:30,973 --> 01:20:36,813
Speaker 10: Okay? I still do bake with sugar, right, Okay, but

1588
01:20:37,213 --> 01:20:41,093
Speaker 10: you know, like again that sugar I guess isn't grown

1589
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:44,093
Speaker 10: in New Zealand. Yeah, yes, like you know, made in

1590
01:20:44,213 --> 01:20:47,053
Speaker 10: processed here and says like made in New Zealand. Yeah,

1591
01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:50,453
Speaker 10: right on attack it type of thing. So but I wouldn't,

1592
01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:53,373
Speaker 10: I guess. I just living with low waste in general,

1593
01:20:53,373 --> 01:20:55,573
Speaker 10: which I've tried to do the last few years. I

1594
01:20:56,013 --> 01:20:58,373
Speaker 10: make a lot of my own stuff, right, which that

1595
01:20:58,453 --> 01:21:01,413
Speaker 10: has been hard because you know, sometimes you might find

1596
01:21:01,453 --> 01:21:05,413
Speaker 10: a baking ingredient that says made in Australia, but you

1597
01:21:05,493 --> 01:21:09,213
Speaker 10: may find, you know, gluten free because I'm Celiac too,

1598
01:21:09,533 --> 01:21:12,053
Speaker 10: box of biscuits that says made in New Zealand but

1599
01:21:12,093 --> 01:21:13,733
Speaker 10: all the ingredients are from out Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:21:14,733 --> 01:21:17,933
Speaker 10: So that's been one that I've just kind of know,

1602
01:21:18,093 --> 01:21:22,333
Speaker 10: use my better judgment to decide how. Yeah, my challenge,

1603
01:21:22,773 --> 01:21:26,413
Speaker 10: But I do I do. Really, what I've loved is

1604
01:21:26,893 --> 01:21:31,053
Speaker 10: eating far more simply. So I do eat a lot

1605
01:21:31,853 --> 01:21:35,253
Speaker 10: less refined processed foods. Not that I was heavy on

1606
01:21:35,293 --> 01:21:39,093
Speaker 10: those anyways, especially being yeah Celiac and low waist, but

1607
01:21:39,493 --> 01:21:41,893
Speaker 10: I just eat really basic foods.

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01:21:41,973 --> 01:21:43,413
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what about bananas?

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01:21:44,173 --> 01:21:44,213
Speaker 3: No?

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01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:46,093
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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01:21:46,213 --> 01:21:49,933
Speaker 10: That's literally you've like my main my main.

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01:21:50,653 --> 01:21:55,453
Speaker 2: Challenge has no banana? Yeah, or isn't there a couple

1613
01:21:55,453 --> 01:21:58,413
Speaker 2: of places in Northland that like, okay, there you go.

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01:21:58,573 --> 01:22:00,933
Speaker 10: All through summer. All through summer, I had a lot

1615
01:22:00,973 --> 01:22:04,013
Speaker 10: of bananas for me, Like I was eating at least

1616
01:22:04,013 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 10: a banana a day. That's especially as Celia. It's like

1617
01:22:07,253 --> 01:22:08,493
Speaker 10: a really simple.

1618
01:22:08,693 --> 01:22:10,653
Speaker 2: You know, try having a seven year old boy in

1619
01:22:10,693 --> 01:22:14,213
Speaker 2: the house. Honestly, he eats four a day sometimes, oh

1620
01:22:14,253 --> 01:22:15,493
Speaker 2: my gosh.

1621
01:22:15,533 --> 01:22:18,053
Speaker 10: And it's really hard to replace, you know, you can't.

1622
01:22:18,053 --> 01:22:19,973
Speaker 10: It's not really just a quick swap out for a

1623
01:22:19,973 --> 01:22:25,093
Speaker 10: banana like this. So rice, yep, I really miss right,

1624
01:22:25,253 --> 01:22:28,733
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, but what rice with qua which we

1625
01:22:28,813 --> 01:22:34,613
Speaker 10: grow in New Zealand. But it's not the same, Like, no,

1626
01:22:34,853 --> 01:22:36,973
Speaker 10: it's not the same. It is much better for you,

1627
01:22:37,293 --> 01:22:40,533
Speaker 10: so you know, that's probably much more nutritious. However, I

1628
01:22:40,533 --> 01:22:42,733
Speaker 10: feel like rice you can eat like every day and

1629
01:22:42,773 --> 01:22:44,493
Speaker 10: it doesn't get old, you know.

1630
01:22:44,653 --> 01:22:47,493
Speaker 2: But Keen well, I feel like, yeah, queen wa with

1631
01:22:47,573 --> 01:22:50,453
Speaker 2: a with a lamb corma just I know you're not

1632
01:22:50,533 --> 01:22:54,733
Speaker 2: a coat, but like that's not the same. Yeah, that's

1633
01:22:54,773 --> 01:22:57,333
Speaker 2: not that doesn't hit the same way okay, So what

1634
01:22:57,493 --> 01:22:59,213
Speaker 2: has been good about this challenge so far?

1635
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:03,813
Speaker 10: So I haint the house benefits, you know, literally eating

1636
01:23:03,973 --> 01:23:07,453
Speaker 10: super simple foods, just not having the option of reaching

1637
01:23:07,613 --> 01:23:12,253
Speaker 10: for anything that is yeah, you know overseas. I think

1638
01:23:12,293 --> 01:23:17,893
Speaker 10: also the connection that I feel with New Zealand, like

1639
01:23:17,933 --> 01:23:20,773
Speaker 10: I knew again I was going to understand all these

1640
01:23:20,813 --> 01:23:24,653
Speaker 10: different small producers, but you know, just being far more

1641
01:23:25,213 --> 01:23:28,573
Speaker 10: engaged and intrigued by what we grow here in our

1642
01:23:28,613 --> 01:23:31,933
Speaker 10: soils has meant and I've ended up with like different

1643
01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:35,373
Speaker 10: random types of produce from people's gardens and you know,

1644
01:23:35,533 --> 01:23:39,133
Speaker 10: experimenting with different things. I saw a lady in the

1645
01:23:39,133 --> 01:23:42,293
Speaker 10: Corimandel when we were house sitting there. She had made

1646
01:23:42,413 --> 01:23:46,093
Speaker 10: her own salt from just ocean water, and I went, oh,

1647
01:23:46,133 --> 01:23:49,773
Speaker 10: my goodness, of course, like I was researching New Zealand

1648
01:23:49,813 --> 01:23:54,333
Speaker 10: made salt when I'm whilst staring at the ocean when

1649
01:23:54,453 --> 01:23:58,253
Speaker 10: you know, a bucket of water, boil it down, which

1650
01:23:58,253 --> 01:24:02,013
Speaker 10: I'm yet to try. So I think the creativity of

1651
01:24:02,053 --> 01:24:06,813
Speaker 10: this challenge has definitely outweighed like the sacrifices of rice

1652
01:24:06,813 --> 01:24:07,733
Speaker 10: and bananas.

1653
01:24:07,813 --> 01:24:10,893
Speaker 2: Yeah right, It's actually a really amazing thing to try

1654
01:24:10,933 --> 01:24:12,653
Speaker 2: and achieve. Are you confident you're going to get through

1655
01:24:12,693 --> 01:24:13,973
Speaker 2: it all, get through the rest of the year.

1656
01:24:14,693 --> 01:24:19,853
Speaker 10: Yes, I am. However, one of my kind of parts

1657
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:21,493
Speaker 10: of the challenge that I thought i'd do so I

1658
01:24:21,493 --> 01:24:24,453
Speaker 10: wouldn't waste food is I've still been able to eat

1659
01:24:24,493 --> 01:24:27,253
Speaker 10: what I already had in my pantry. Yeah, now I'm

1660
01:24:27,333 --> 01:24:30,933
Speaker 10: using up some of those things. So I definitely there

1661
01:24:31,093 --> 01:24:34,733
Speaker 10: some things that I have been using throughout, especially.

1662
01:24:34,333 --> 01:24:36,973
Speaker 2: Spices and oh my gosh, I.

1663
01:24:36,893 --> 01:24:38,453
Speaker 10: Think towards the end of the year.

1664
01:24:39,693 --> 01:24:43,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about this. At first, I was like, yeah,

1665
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,173
Speaker 2: I get the more I think about it, though, you

1666
01:24:46,293 --> 01:24:53,773
Speaker 2: just it just means like the most delicious food. Interesting. Yeah,

1667
01:24:53,933 --> 01:24:56,573
Speaker 2: then then your stuffed, yes, oh my god.

1668
01:24:56,613 --> 01:24:59,013
Speaker 10: But then you usually find the alternatives, Like we do

1669
01:24:59,133 --> 01:25:01,133
Speaker 10: grow so much in New Zealand, you know, we even

1670
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:04,813
Speaker 10: grow coffee. Like we're out north, we really grow much

1671
01:25:04,853 --> 01:25:07,373
Speaker 10: black tea. So I've actually gone off black tea. I

1672
01:25:07,413 --> 01:25:10,013
Speaker 10: don't drink caffeine now. So yeah, all these Them'm saying,

1673
01:25:10,053 --> 01:25:12,293
Speaker 10: that's been an experiment and I will definitely make it

1674
01:25:12,333 --> 01:25:13,933
Speaker 10: till the end of the year, but I will probably

1675
01:25:14,293 --> 01:25:16,333
Speaker 10: have a little hiatus from queneware.

1676
01:25:16,293 --> 01:25:18,773
Speaker 2: In ye Okay, So what's going to be the what's

1677
01:25:18,773 --> 01:25:20,773
Speaker 2: going to be like is this is the equivalent of

1678
01:25:20,813 --> 01:25:21,933
Speaker 2: your death road dish?

1679
01:25:22,093 --> 01:25:22,293
Speaker 13: You know?

1680
01:25:22,373 --> 01:25:24,373
Speaker 2: He asked people like, what would you have as your

1681
01:25:24,413 --> 01:25:26,533
Speaker 2: kind of last meal? What is going to be your

1682
01:25:26,613 --> 01:25:28,293
Speaker 2: first meal of twenty twenty five?

1683
01:25:29,133 --> 01:25:35,133
Speaker 10: It will be rice? Maybe just playing rice. I really

1684
01:25:35,293 --> 01:25:38,973
Speaker 10: must write like I'm actually salivating a little bit, just

1685
01:25:39,493 --> 01:25:44,053
Speaker 10: like a plate of rice with some bananas on the

1686
01:25:44,133 --> 01:25:45,413
Speaker 10: side and coconuts.

1687
01:25:45,693 --> 01:25:45,933
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1688
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:49,253
Speaker 10: I used to have so much like coconut milk coconut

1689
01:25:49,613 --> 01:25:52,853
Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean maybe that's a new dish in itself.

1690
01:25:52,893 --> 01:25:58,493
Speaker 2: It's just amazing. Yeah, I'm glad you're doing it because

1691
01:25:58,533 --> 01:26:00,733
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I'll be honest with you. I couldn't. I

1692
01:26:00,733 --> 01:26:02,373
Speaker 2: couldn't do it. So I love the in theory. I

1693
01:26:02,413 --> 01:26:05,613
Speaker 2: love being more connected to what we're producing and practice.

1694
01:26:05,893 --> 01:26:07,533
Speaker 2: I think I still want to be able to wrap

1695
01:26:07,613 --> 01:26:12,013
Speaker 2: up a lambcorma with you know, some nice starchy bes

1696
01:26:12,053 --> 01:26:12,853
Speaker 2: MARTI race.

1697
01:26:13,573 --> 01:26:15,813
Speaker 10: Well, we can have a balance, right, That's why I'm

1698
01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:18,173
Speaker 10: doing it. Then I can. I can find out all

1699
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,693
Speaker 10: these different great places so then other people can just

1700
01:26:20,733 --> 01:26:23,133
Speaker 10: incorporate them and said not be so extreme.

1701
01:26:23,413 --> 01:26:24,973
Speaker 2: Good for you, all right, Well, what we'll do is

1702
01:26:25,293 --> 01:26:28,373
Speaker 2: maybe for our last show of the year in December.

1703
01:26:28,813 --> 01:26:30,493
Speaker 2: We will we will come back to you then and

1704
01:26:30,533 --> 01:26:33,253
Speaker 2: see if you're equivalent of a death Row dish. Your

1705
01:26:33,253 --> 01:26:35,293
Speaker 2: first meal for twenty twenty five is going to be

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01:26:35,333 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 2: any difference? If maybe you've got some summer cravings. Maybe

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Speaker 2: keep up the great work. Nice to chat, Thanks Sex.

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Speaker 2: That is Kate Hall. You can find her on the

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01:26:45,093 --> 01:26:48,773
Speaker 2: social media platforms by searching ethically Kate. If you want

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01:26:48,813 --> 01:26:51,133
Speaker 2: to get in touch, ninety two ninety two is our

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01:26:51,213 --> 01:26:53,893
Speaker 2: text number. You can email me as well. Jacket Newstalks

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Speaker 2: he'd b dot co dot n Z. Sixteen past eleven.

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Speaker 2: We're off to the Greek Islands next.

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Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy WU Tours unique fully Inclusive tours around

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01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:04,733
Speaker 1: the World.

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01:27:05,253 --> 01:27:08,653
Speaker 2: Travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He's with us. Hey Mike,

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01:27:09,573 --> 01:27:10,413
Speaker 2: Good morning Jack.

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01:27:10,453 --> 01:27:14,253
Speaker 9: The All Blacks by ten. George Stephanopolis by twenty oh.

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01:27:14,333 --> 01:27:17,613
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're referencing the interview that George Stephanopolis is

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01:27:17,613 --> 01:27:19,893
Speaker 2: doing with Joe Biden today. Do you know how long

1721
01:27:19,973 --> 01:27:20,813
Speaker 2: the interview is going to be?

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01:27:21,653 --> 01:27:24,133
Speaker 9: Apparently it's half an hour. That just really still really

1723
01:27:24,253 --> 01:27:28,013
Speaker 9: clips and tell you what, Jack, it's not looking flash

1724
01:27:28,213 --> 01:27:33,253
Speaker 9: one of the clips Bubberly, George asks Joe, have you

1725
01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:37,053
Speaker 9: watched the debate from last weekend? Joe Biden's not actually

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01:27:37,053 --> 01:27:37,933
Speaker 9: sure if he has or not.

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01:27:40,293 --> 01:27:42,253
Speaker 2: I mean, I said last week I thought it was

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01:27:42,453 --> 01:27:44,373
Speaker 2: I thought I think thought it was done. I still

1729
01:27:44,413 --> 01:27:46,693
Speaker 2: think he's going to be done. I still think he's

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01:27:46,693 --> 01:27:49,053
Speaker 2: going to be done. But oh my gosh, I can't

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01:27:49,053 --> 01:27:54,293
Speaker 2: wait to see that. That sounds incredibly Yeah, it sounds

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01:27:54,333 --> 01:27:58,253
Speaker 2: amazing and exciting. So because because they were saying originally

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01:27:58,253 --> 01:28:01,093
Speaker 2: that Stephanopoulos was only going to have fifteen minutes. Because

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01:28:01,093 --> 01:28:03,133
Speaker 2: the thing about Joe Biden is he doesn't do many interviews.

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01:28:03,213 --> 01:28:04,773
Speaker 2: Hasn't done a sit down interview with the New York

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01:28:04,813 --> 01:28:06,453
Speaker 2: Times and the whole time he's been president, which is

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01:28:06,613 --> 01:28:10,693
Speaker 2: very very very uncommon, like very unusual. I think he's

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01:28:10,733 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 2: the first president, you know, in kind of modern history

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01:28:13,373 --> 01:28:16,133
Speaker 2: not to do that. And so yeah, a lot of

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01:28:16,133 --> 01:28:18,573
Speaker 2: pressure on this interview today. They were meeting in Wisconsin,

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01:28:18,613 --> 01:28:22,413
Speaker 2: I think, but fifteen minutes. I feel like most people

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01:28:22,453 --> 01:28:24,973
Speaker 2: can be interviewed for fifteen minutes without too much of

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01:28:25,013 --> 01:28:27,213
Speaker 2: an issue, maybe even Joe Biden. But it might not

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01:28:27,213 --> 01:28:29,333
Speaker 2: be the case. Okay, well we'll make sure that the

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01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:31,213
Speaker 2: news team are looking through those clips and we can

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01:28:31,213 --> 01:28:33,653
Speaker 2: share them, share them with everyone very shortly. As for

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01:28:33,653 --> 01:28:36,173
Speaker 2: the all backs by ten at least, I reckon that's

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01:28:36,213 --> 01:28:38,413
Speaker 2: a I reckon, that's a good part. How are you

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01:28:38,453 --> 01:28:40,733
Speaker 2: feeling about Demo at ten pedifet at fifteen?

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01:28:42,693 --> 01:28:42,853
Speaker 5: Mm?

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01:28:44,373 --> 01:28:46,693
Speaker 9: Yeah, I can understand it, diplomat.

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01:28:46,813 --> 01:28:49,533
Speaker 2: I think it's good. No, it's good. It's the thing

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01:28:49,533 --> 01:28:54,133
Speaker 2: of Damian Mackenzie, especially he's he's kind of reduced the

1754
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:56,013
Speaker 2: number of eras he made, but I reckon he's he's

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01:28:56,053 --> 01:28:58,613
Speaker 2: still such an exciting and unpredictable player, and that's what

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01:28:58,653 --> 01:29:01,133
Speaker 2: you need against the English, I think, because they're not

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01:29:01,133 --> 01:29:06,093
Speaker 2: going to exciting and unpredictable much. He's I reckon, he's

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01:29:06,133 --> 01:29:08,013
Speaker 2: way more reliable than he was a few years ago.

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01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:10,413
Speaker 2: I think he's really worked on that. That's my view. Anyway,

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01:29:10,653 --> 01:29:12,173
Speaker 2: we'll see I see come this evening.

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01:29:12,853 --> 01:29:15,253
Speaker 9: I think Richie. I see Richie Mlung is in town.

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01:29:15,333 --> 01:29:16,733
Speaker 9: He's got Richie's bus.

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01:29:16,973 --> 01:29:23,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know about about I

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01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:26,173
Speaker 2: mean maybe I just haven't. I haven't seen Richie Wong.

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01:29:26,213 --> 01:29:27,933
Speaker 2: I played the season right, so it's kind of hard

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01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:31,773
Speaker 2: to make that go anyway. Hey, we are cruising the

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01:29:31,813 --> 01:29:34,253
Speaker 2: Greek islands this morning, and would you say in your

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01:29:34,293 --> 01:29:39,013
Speaker 2: experience that megaships are best geared for cruising the Agean.

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01:29:39,613 --> 01:29:42,613
Speaker 9: In a word, no, I mean I do think megaships

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01:29:42,653 --> 01:29:44,373
Speaker 9: had the place, and of course I was on that

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01:29:44,413 --> 01:29:47,413
Speaker 9: princesseship a few weeks ago. But with the G and C,

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01:29:47,893 --> 01:29:50,813
Speaker 9: what I think is really important to remember is there

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01:29:50,813 --> 01:29:55,573
Speaker 9: are generally no sea days when you're cruising it. Why

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01:29:55,573 --> 01:29:58,133
Speaker 9: would you want to be on a massive venue backed

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01:29:58,173 --> 01:30:00,733
Speaker 9: ship dressed up like a theme park when the real

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01:30:00,773 --> 01:30:05,573
Speaker 9: attraction is the onshore experience. So I would say, yeah,

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01:30:05,613 --> 01:30:07,813
Speaker 9: go for a MIDSI to ship, even the smaller ship,

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01:30:08,133 --> 01:30:13,173
Speaker 9: because obviously with the smaller ships, for example, Celestial cruises

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01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:16,253
Speaker 9: is the Greek cruise line in the Aegean. They can

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01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:19,133
Speaker 9: get you into the smaller ports and the whole boarding

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01:30:19,173 --> 01:30:24,133
Speaker 9: and disembarking procedure is just far more seamless. It's just

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01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:26,813
Speaker 9: so stress free. So yeah, smaller is good in the Aegean.

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01:30:26,933 --> 01:30:29,333
Speaker 2: Didn't didn't you previously work on a cruise ship.

1784
01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:32,293
Speaker 9: Twenty five years ago?

1785
01:30:32,413 --> 01:30:32,573
Speaker 2: Jack?

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01:30:32,653 --> 01:30:35,853
Speaker 9: Ten years during mye I was the DJ on a

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01:30:35,893 --> 01:30:38,973
Speaker 9: Greek cruise ship because Royal Olympic Cruise Lines. Yes, on

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01:30:39,093 --> 01:30:43,253
Speaker 9: the flagship vessel no less, the Horus very good.

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01:30:44,133 --> 01:30:47,453
Speaker 2: I had no idea the DJ of all things as well.

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01:30:48,053 --> 01:30:51,813
Speaker 9: Exactly said thing was after nine to eleven Royal Olympic

1791
01:30:51,853 --> 01:30:54,973
Speaker 9: went busted, not because of me, but because the Americans

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01:30:55,013 --> 01:30:58,493
Speaker 9: stopped traveling for a while. So yeah, they were, they

1793
01:30:58,533 --> 01:31:02,653
Speaker 9: were sunk literally, So the Royal Olympic Cruise Lines, which

1794
01:31:02,733 --> 01:31:05,053
Speaker 9: was the Greek cruise line the torch, has been passed

1795
01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:08,333
Speaker 9: to this company called Celestial Cruises, which is Greek owned

1796
01:31:08,373 --> 01:31:12,173
Speaker 9: and operated headquartered out of Pereas Athens. And I'll tell

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01:31:12,213 --> 01:31:14,253
Speaker 9: you what Jack the world is indeed the village. When

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01:31:14,253 --> 01:31:17,573
Speaker 9: I was cruising on board Celestial Journey a few weeks ago,

1799
01:31:18,173 --> 01:31:22,853
Speaker 9: I suddenly recognized the head waiter, Pablos dal Impertis, and

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01:31:22,893 --> 01:31:27,733
Speaker 9: he is now, I would say, seventy five, still working

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01:31:28,613 --> 01:31:31,253
Speaker 9: on board cruise ships. He works with me on board

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01:31:31,293 --> 01:31:32,333
Speaker 9: the Stella Solaris.

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01:31:32,533 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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01:31:33,093 --> 01:31:36,333
Speaker 9: So that was such a cool we reunion. But he's

1805
01:31:36,373 --> 01:31:39,213
Speaker 9: been working on cruise ships now for over fifty years

1806
01:31:39,253 --> 01:31:40,813
Speaker 9: with no intention of retiring.

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01:31:40,893 --> 01:31:44,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So one of the most popular islands.

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01:31:44,773 --> 01:31:48,013
Speaker 9: Well obviously Meconos and Santorini would stand out as the

1809
01:31:48,093 --> 01:31:53,373
Speaker 9: perennial pin ups, and any self respecting cruise itinery would

1810
01:31:53,373 --> 01:31:59,533
Speaker 9: include those islands. What about Mekinos as small, she style

1811
01:32:00,453 --> 01:32:05,693
Speaker 9: absurdly good locking, but she does get crowded very fast somehow, though,

1812
01:32:05,773 --> 01:32:08,293
Speaker 9: even though they're is that massive humanity in all of

1813
01:32:08,293 --> 01:32:12,933
Speaker 9: your lane ways, it's those cubist, white washed houses. That

1814
01:32:13,173 --> 01:32:19,053
Speaker 9: charm of that architecture just subdues the crowd congestion somehow.

1815
01:32:19,093 --> 01:32:22,213
Speaker 9: You still think this is magical. And if you want

1816
01:32:22,213 --> 01:32:26,973
Speaker 9: to go to the best best bar in town, I

1817
01:32:26,973 --> 01:32:31,893
Speaker 9: would strongly suggest you book an advance a table at Veranda,

1818
01:32:32,053 --> 01:32:35,333
Speaker 9: which is that little Venus, that little cocktail strip Inos.

1819
01:32:35,573 --> 01:32:37,893
Speaker 9: You can book a table in advance, even if you're

1820
01:32:37,933 --> 01:32:39,973
Speaker 9: just a day tripper and you want to cocktail at

1821
01:32:40,013 --> 01:32:43,013
Speaker 9: Little Venis. Do that and you'll be able to q

1822
01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:44,853
Speaker 9: jump the congestion in Mecinos.

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01:32:44,933 --> 01:32:48,533
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Okay, So after tendering ashore, what is the

1824
01:32:48,573 --> 01:32:50,653
Speaker 2: best way to reach the top of Santorini.

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01:32:52,213 --> 01:32:54,493
Speaker 9: This is a good question because from the old port

1826
01:32:54,653 --> 01:32:57,413
Speaker 9: it's a thousand feet up to the cliff top town

1827
01:32:57,413 --> 01:33:02,973
Speaker 9: of Feta, which is that magnificent Tiara of white washed

1828
01:33:02,973 --> 01:33:07,973
Speaker 9: houses crowning Santorini. The cable car is appealing. The problem

1829
01:33:08,053 --> 01:33:10,853
Speaker 9: is if you've got multiple ships tendering at the same time,

1830
01:33:11,173 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 9: you will be queuing for a cable car ride for

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01:33:13,373 --> 01:33:17,573
Speaker 9: several hours. Bugger that. So option to the donkey ride.

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01:33:17,733 --> 01:33:19,893
Speaker 9: A lot of people wonder about the donkeys. I have

1833
01:33:20,013 --> 01:33:23,813
Speaker 9: to say, those donkeys are looking way better, way healthier

1834
01:33:23,853 --> 01:33:26,493
Speaker 9: than I remember from twenty years ago. And I've actually

1835
01:33:26,493 --> 01:33:32,293
Speaker 9: got a weight limit weight limits now, So if you

1836
01:33:32,453 --> 01:33:36,013
Speaker 9: weigh over one hundred kg, no donkey for you in Greece.

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01:33:37,413 --> 01:33:39,893
Speaker 7: So option three walk it.

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01:33:40,253 --> 01:33:43,813
Speaker 9: Six hundred stone steps gigsig zagging the cliff face up

1839
01:33:43,813 --> 01:33:46,493
Speaker 9: to Farah. But I did the walk, and I have

1840
01:33:46,573 --> 01:33:48,213
Speaker 9: to say, not that I weigh a hundred kg.

1841
01:33:48,253 --> 01:33:49,013
Speaker 6: I hastened to it.

1842
01:33:49,253 --> 01:33:51,093
Speaker 9: But I have to say the good thing is you

1843
01:33:51,133 --> 01:33:54,653
Speaker 9: can console yourself by remembering every step you are taking

1844
01:33:54,773 --> 01:33:56,493
Speaker 9: is burning off that buffet from breakfast.

1845
01:33:56,613 --> 01:33:58,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, it's a way to do it, even

1846
01:33:58,413 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 2: if it's stinking hot. You know, you've got to take

1847
01:34:00,333 --> 01:34:01,733
Speaker 2: some water and that kind of thing. But it's just

1848
01:34:01,973 --> 01:34:03,533
Speaker 2: definitely the best way to do it. You're just so

1849
01:34:03,653 --> 01:34:05,813
Speaker 2: much more satisfying if you can get then So did

1850
01:34:05,853 --> 01:34:09,533
Speaker 2: you CRUs take you to any lesser traffic islands, ones

1851
01:34:09,573 --> 01:34:10,653
Speaker 2: that weren't quite as busy.

1852
01:34:11,653 --> 01:34:14,933
Speaker 9: Yes, I tell you what, Jack. The real surprise for

1853
01:34:15,053 --> 01:34:18,173
Speaker 9: me was this little island called Melos. I've never been

1854
01:34:18,213 --> 01:34:21,573
Speaker 9: there before, but the name is interesting because Melos. Think

1855
01:34:21,973 --> 01:34:25,493
Speaker 9: veniceter Melo, the statue at the Louver, and this is

1856
01:34:25,533 --> 01:34:27,773
Speaker 9: where it was discovered a couple of hundred years ago,

1857
01:34:27,893 --> 01:34:31,693
Speaker 9: that statue of the Greek goddess Aphrodite. It's not so

1858
01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:36,893
Speaker 9: terroristy Melos, but unbelievably beautiful. The thing about it is

1859
01:34:36,933 --> 01:34:40,533
Speaker 9: it's got all the whitewashed villages that are so quintessential Greece.

1860
01:34:41,093 --> 01:34:44,693
Speaker 9: But then you've got all these dramatic volcanic rock formations,

1861
01:34:44,853 --> 01:34:50,093
Speaker 9: rock arches, sea caves, bone white beaches like Sutokanico Beach,

1862
01:34:50,173 --> 01:34:54,533
Speaker 9: which is truly mesmerizing. I was watching the water and

1863
01:34:54,573 --> 01:34:58,613
Speaker 9: it just pivots from turquoise to cobalt, turquoise cob I

1864
01:34:58,653 --> 01:35:00,893
Speaker 9: don't know how they do it, but it's just extraordinary.

1865
01:35:00,933 --> 01:35:04,373
Speaker 9: So pack your tags because that will be the dip

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01:35:04,573 --> 01:35:05,453
Speaker 9: of your trip.

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01:35:05,733 --> 01:35:07,493
Speaker 6: Sata Canet be very good.

1868
01:35:07,533 --> 01:35:09,493
Speaker 2: Would you recommend Celestial cruises.

1869
01:35:10,453 --> 01:35:11,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

1870
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:13,813
Speaker 9: It's a good value four star cruise experience, and as

1871
01:35:13,853 --> 01:35:16,533
Speaker 9: I mentioned before, it's the only Greek owned and operated

1872
01:35:16,613 --> 01:35:19,333
Speaker 9: cruise line in the aege and the Mediterranean, and you

1873
01:35:19,493 --> 01:35:23,413
Speaker 9: really do feel that sense of pride. You've got not

1874
01:35:23,453 --> 01:35:26,213
Speaker 9: only that passion for their home waters, but you combine

1875
01:35:26,253 --> 01:35:28,973
Speaker 9: that with three thousand years of cultural heritage. It's pretty

1876
01:35:28,973 --> 01:35:29,653
Speaker 9: hard to beat.

1877
01:35:30,253 --> 01:35:32,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds so good. And when would be the

1878
01:35:32,613 --> 01:35:34,893
Speaker 2: best time of year to cruise the Agen do you think?

1879
01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:39,933
Speaker 9: Not now? Too hot, too busy, and it's just insanely

1880
01:35:40,093 --> 01:35:43,373
Speaker 9: busy through the European summer now, so definitely go for

1881
01:35:43,373 --> 01:35:45,573
Speaker 9: the shoulder seasons. The good thing about the cruise season

1882
01:35:45,853 --> 01:35:49,053
Speaker 9: in Greece it generally runs now from March to November,

1883
01:35:49,213 --> 01:35:53,693
Speaker 9: so I would opt for March April, May maybe, even

1884
01:35:53,733 --> 01:35:57,573
Speaker 9: though May is actually now busy, But then again October

1885
01:35:57,573 --> 01:36:00,133
Speaker 9: November at the end of the year, and you will

1886
01:36:00,133 --> 01:36:02,293
Speaker 9: have a far more optimized experience.

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01:36:02,933 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 2: So good, Okay, it sounds like an amazing little trip. Mike,

1888
01:36:05,373 --> 01:36:07,133
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sheer that with us. We'll

1889
01:36:07,173 --> 01:36:09,693
Speaker 2: make sure all of Mike's tips for cruising the Greek

1890
01:36:09,733 --> 01:36:12,293
Speaker 2: Islands are available on the news talk z'd be website

1891
01:36:12,293 --> 01:36:15,333
Speaker 2: before midday. New music for you from Sean Cunningham, he

1892
01:36:15,573 --> 01:36:17,693
Speaker 2: of Atlas Fame. We've got your book picture for this

1893
01:36:17,773 --> 01:36:20,213
Speaker 2: weekend as well. Next up though, we're going to take

1894
01:36:20,253 --> 01:36:24,053
Speaker 2: you to the to Dunedin Orti Porty this afternoon. Jason

1895
01:36:24,093 --> 01:36:27,213
Speaker 2: Pine is gearing up for a massive weekend. On Weekends

1896
01:36:27,213 --> 01:36:29,373
Speaker 2: Spoil will tell us how things are shaping up at

1897
01:36:29,413 --> 01:36:32,173
Speaker 2: Forsyth Bar Stadium ahead of the All Backs First Test

1898
01:36:32,213 --> 01:36:33,173
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four.

1899
01:36:37,133 --> 01:36:38,813
Speaker 6: Getting your weekends started.

1900
01:36:39,013 --> 01:36:42,773
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks edb.

1901
01:36:52,573 --> 01:36:54,253
Speaker 16: So Man.

1902
01:37:07,573 --> 01:37:12,093
Speaker 2: Seven o five Tonight Forsyth Bars Stadium, the All Blacks

1903
01:37:12,093 --> 01:37:15,173
Speaker 2: in England and the All Blacks First Test of twenty

1904
01:37:15,213 --> 01:37:18,853
Speaker 2: twenty four, the first under new coach Scott Raiser Robertson

1905
01:37:19,533 --> 01:37:22,373
Speaker 2: and Jason Pine is there for us at Forsyth Bar,

1906
01:37:22,533 --> 01:37:25,373
Speaker 2: counting down to what is going to be an epic occasion.

1907
01:37:25,453 --> 01:37:27,653
Speaker 2: This evening killed a parony, but early, Jack On a

1908
01:37:27,653 --> 01:37:30,173
Speaker 2: bit early. I mean the thing with Forsyth Bar so

1909
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:32,293
Speaker 2: is there's no point in ever saying how the conditions

1910
01:37:32,333 --> 01:37:34,093
Speaker 2: because the conditions are very very stable.

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01:37:35,013 --> 01:37:37,173
Speaker 20: Yes, the roof ensures that I've got to say, though,

1912
01:37:37,453 --> 01:37:38,133
Speaker 20: cracking day.

1913
01:37:38,053 --> 01:37:42,933
Speaker 2: In Duneda is every day is a beautiful day in Dunedin. Well, yes,

1914
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, Yes, you know

1915
01:37:44,533 --> 01:37:44,933
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1916
01:37:45,013 --> 01:37:46,493
Speaker 20: No, but you know, it's one of those one of

1917
01:37:46,493 --> 01:37:49,893
Speaker 20: those winter Dunedan mornings where it's it's chilly, but it's

1918
01:37:50,173 --> 01:37:54,453
Speaker 20: clear skies and sunshine. It's a cracker Jack and I

1919
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:57,493
Speaker 20: cannot wait for this game tonight. There are so many

1920
01:37:57,573 --> 01:38:00,693
Speaker 20: layers of conversation to be had, and we'll unpack some

1921
01:38:00,733 --> 01:38:02,573
Speaker 20: of those this afternoon. But at the end of the day,

1922
01:38:02,613 --> 01:38:05,773
Speaker 20: it is Scott Robertson's first test as All Blacks head coach,

1923
01:38:05,813 --> 01:38:08,333
Speaker 20: and I can't to see how this plays out to them.

1924
01:38:08,413 --> 01:38:12,173
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so okay, pantas a picture of seven oh five,

1925
01:38:12,733 --> 01:38:15,533
Speaker 2: the game starts, whistle blows, what are the things that

1926
01:38:15,573 --> 01:38:17,653
Speaker 2: you are going to be most keenly focused on in

1927
01:38:17,653 --> 01:38:20,853
Speaker 2: those opening minutes. It's a great question.

1928
01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:24,533
Speaker 20: I'm I guess going to try to see whether the

1929
01:38:24,573 --> 01:38:27,373
Speaker 20: All Blacks of twenty twenty four look like the Crusaders

1930
01:38:27,373 --> 01:38:29,733
Speaker 20: of the last six or seven years, Whether what worked

1931
01:38:29,773 --> 01:38:34,173
Speaker 20: for Scott Robertson so so well and so successfully in

1932
01:38:34,253 --> 01:38:37,573
Speaker 20: red and Black will work in just black and you

1933
01:38:37,613 --> 01:38:40,613
Speaker 20: know that's things like winning the collision areas, you know,

1934
01:38:40,693 --> 01:38:42,893
Speaker 20: making sure that you do the basics correctly, but also

1935
01:38:43,253 --> 01:38:45,853
Speaker 20: unleashing you know, the back line to do what you

1936
01:38:45,853 --> 01:38:48,613
Speaker 20: know they want to do. And on that my secondary focus,

1937
01:38:48,613 --> 01:38:50,613
Speaker 20: and in fact I'm going to try my best to

1938
01:38:50,693 --> 01:38:53,533
Speaker 20: just watch him only for a little while, as Damien

1939
01:38:53,613 --> 01:38:56,893
Speaker 20: McKenzie's performance at number ten and how he runs the cutter.

1940
01:38:57,093 --> 01:38:59,573
Speaker 20: He was in the ten jersey last time we were

1941
01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:02,213
Speaker 20: here last year when the All Blacks took on Australia

1942
01:39:02,253 --> 01:39:05,613
Speaker 20: and had I think what he would call a mixed afternoon. Yeah,

1943
01:39:05,693 --> 01:39:08,453
Speaker 20: Richie Morgan came on and kind of steadied the ship

1944
01:39:08,453 --> 01:39:11,573
Speaker 20: in many ways. Now this is Damien McKenzie's ship to run,

1945
01:39:11,653 --> 01:39:14,493
Speaker 20: so his performance this evening will also be well worth

1946
01:39:14,533 --> 01:39:14,933
Speaker 20: looking at.

1947
01:39:15,013 --> 01:39:18,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell me that you at least delayed your

1948
01:39:18,413 --> 01:39:21,053
Speaker 2: wake up time this morning until five or six am.

1949
01:39:21,253 --> 01:39:23,133
Speaker 2: You surely watched the game with a bit of a delay.

1950
01:39:23,173 --> 01:39:26,493
Speaker 2: The Euros, No, I didn't.

1951
01:39:27,053 --> 01:39:31,173
Speaker 20: It was yeah, yeah, I watched them both and you

1952
01:39:31,213 --> 01:39:34,893
Speaker 20: know both went the distance, didn't they pretty much? Gee,

1953
01:39:34,893 --> 01:39:37,533
Speaker 20: when the Euros get to this point, it's pretty compelling viewing.

1954
01:39:37,813 --> 01:39:39,893
Speaker 2: It's so good, honey, I just I love. I know

1955
01:39:39,933 --> 01:39:42,293
Speaker 2: we've said it already, you know that our entire house

1956
01:39:42,373 --> 01:39:44,733
Speaker 2: is completely Euros focused at the moment, But it's just

1957
01:39:44,773 --> 01:39:47,693
Speaker 2: something about tournament football that is so exciting and getting

1958
01:39:47,773 --> 01:39:49,693
Speaker 2: up starting the day with it as well, you know,

1959
01:39:49,893 --> 01:39:52,213
Speaker 2: curling up on the couch for the cocoa and yeah

1960
01:39:52,213 --> 01:39:54,293
Speaker 2: it's great. I need to come rid of your place.

1961
01:39:54,413 --> 01:39:57,773
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. Who are you feeling about the favorites then?

1962
01:39:58,013 --> 01:40:00,093
Speaker 2: Now that now that the Germans are knocked out? Are

1963
01:40:00,093 --> 01:40:03,813
Speaker 2: you feeling like it's Spain's tournament to lose the Swiss caps? Yep, yep.

1964
01:40:03,813 --> 01:40:05,693
Speaker 20: Well but Spain France, what a game is going to

1965
01:40:05,733 --> 01:40:08,013
Speaker 20: be in the semi fire finals, you know. Then tomorrow

1966
01:40:08,053 --> 01:40:10,173
Speaker 20: obviously England and going to try and you know, get

1967
01:40:10,213 --> 01:40:14,293
Speaker 20: their way pastraight yeah, waight through exactly the Dutch you know,

1968
01:40:14,413 --> 01:40:17,853
Speaker 20: and Turkey as we call them now. In the other quarterfinal.

1969
01:40:19,253 --> 01:40:19,973
Speaker 2: I think Spain.

1970
01:40:20,013 --> 01:40:22,893
Speaker 20: I actually thought Spain before this morning, and I just

1971
01:40:22,933 --> 01:40:24,413
Speaker 20: thought that they would get find a way to get

1972
01:40:24,453 --> 01:40:26,373
Speaker 20: past Germany. I didn't think it'd take them on hundred

1973
01:40:26,413 --> 01:40:29,013
Speaker 20: and nineteen minutes. But here we are. Yeah, but yeah,

1974
01:40:29,053 --> 01:40:32,573
Speaker 20: Spain for me, But Spain France in a semi final.

1975
01:40:33,253 --> 01:40:36,213
Speaker 20: I think Wednesday morning that game get the coco on.

1976
01:40:36,253 --> 01:40:38,373
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, this morning was a morning to

1977
01:40:38,373 --> 01:40:40,693
Speaker 2: feel like an old man though. So you had spain

1978
01:40:40,813 --> 01:40:43,333
Speaker 2: right that they're star wingers. One of them is sixteen

1979
01:40:44,053 --> 01:40:46,933
Speaker 2: and on one of the other ones twenty one. And

1980
01:40:46,973 --> 01:40:51,653
Speaker 2: then the German coach is younger than me. Yeah. The

1981
01:40:51,733 --> 01:40:55,133
Speaker 2: German coach is thirty six. Yeah, oh my god, this

1982
01:40:55,213 --> 01:40:58,093
Speaker 2: is nothing in my life. No, see, this is the

1983
01:40:58,173 --> 01:41:00,533
Speaker 2: jacksture in your life. You've now arrived at Jack. I

1984
01:41:00,653 --> 01:41:02,773
Speaker 2: arrived here a long time ago, don't you worry about

1985
01:41:02,773 --> 01:41:05,493
Speaker 2: I was like, this is how is this happening? Anyway? No,

1986
01:41:05,653 --> 01:41:07,693
Speaker 2: it's been great. So what's on the show this afternoon?

1987
01:41:07,973 --> 01:41:08,453
Speaker 2: Ben Smith?

1988
01:41:08,453 --> 01:41:11,293
Speaker 20: Straight away after midday Rugby Royalty down these parts. Of

1989
01:41:11,333 --> 01:41:14,253
Speaker 20: course we'll also get a bit of a look inside

1990
01:41:14,293 --> 01:41:16,413
Speaker 20: the All Blacks camper an English viewpoint as well. The

1991
01:41:16,453 --> 01:41:18,133
Speaker 20: other thing I want to focus on is New Zealand

1992
01:41:18,573 --> 01:41:22,853
Speaker 20: is under seventeen men's basketball team overnight making history. That's

1993
01:41:22,893 --> 01:41:24,893
Speaker 20: through to the semi finals of the of the Under

1994
01:41:24,893 --> 01:41:27,533
Speaker 20: seventeen World Cup. No New Zealand under seventeen site's ever

1995
01:41:27,573 --> 01:41:29,493
Speaker 20: gone that far. So I have a look at that

1996
01:41:29,533 --> 01:41:32,533
Speaker 20: and Chanelle Harris Tavita after two ahead of the Warriors

1997
01:41:32,573 --> 01:41:33,133
Speaker 20: Bulldogs game.

1998
01:41:33,253 --> 01:41:34,733
Speaker 2: Very good, looking forward to it. Have you a great

1999
01:41:34,733 --> 01:41:37,773
Speaker 2: time in Forsyth parts today, looking forward to this afternoon

2000
01:41:37,813 --> 01:41:40,333
Speaker 2: and to this evening. Of course Jackson Pine with us

2001
01:41:40,373 --> 01:41:42,613
Speaker 2: with weekend sport right after the midday news and of

2002
01:41:42,613 --> 01:41:44,653
Speaker 2: course we can have that All Blacks game live for

2003
01:41:44,693 --> 01:41:47,493
Speaker 2: your news talks. He'd be kickoff five past seven in

2004
01:41:47,573 --> 01:41:50,813
Speaker 2: Donedan tonight the All Blacks England test number one for

2005
01:41:50,813 --> 01:41:51,693
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

2006
01:41:52,773 --> 01:41:55,493
Speaker 6: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

2007
01:41:55,613 --> 01:41:58,773
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepewart dot co dot

2008
01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:01,853
Speaker 1: NZID for high quality supplements, US Talks, dB.

2009
01:42:02,133 --> 01:42:05,253
Speaker 2: News Talks edd B twenty one, two twelve on your Saturday.

2010
01:42:05,573 --> 01:42:07,453
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a you would read this weekend

2011
01:42:08,293 --> 01:42:11,053
Speaker 2: in between all of the amazing sport. Katherin Rain's our

2012
01:42:11,093 --> 01:42:14,013
Speaker 2: book reviewer has her recommendations for us. Now, Hey Catherine,

2013
01:42:14,293 --> 01:42:19,053
Speaker 2: morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with Our Holiday by Louise Camblish.

2014
01:42:19,093 --> 01:42:22,333
Speaker 12: So this closely follows two couples, Shoulotte and Perry and

2015
01:42:22,533 --> 01:42:25,453
Speaker 12: Amy Alinis, and they trade their London city lives for

2016
01:42:25,493 --> 01:42:28,253
Speaker 12: a relaxing breaks at their beautiful holiday home and a

2017
01:42:28,293 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 12: place called pine Ridge, Dorset. But things have taken a

2018
01:42:31,173 --> 01:42:34,493
Speaker 12: really unwanted turn when their holiday homes become interrupted by

2019
01:42:34,533 --> 01:42:37,213
Speaker 12: acts of violence and vandalism and damage. And there's this

2020
01:42:37,333 --> 01:42:40,853
Speaker 12: weird real war in pine Ridge raging against these wealthy

2021
01:42:40,893 --> 01:42:44,093
Speaker 12: second homeowners and those of pine Ridge who've been left

2022
01:42:44,133 --> 01:42:46,813
Speaker 12: behind in the Hiles and crisis and they can't afford

2023
01:42:46,973 --> 01:42:49,573
Speaker 12: to live where they're living. And there's this group of

2024
01:42:49,613 --> 01:42:52,053
Speaker 12: people called not Just for August, meaning not just for

2025
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:54,373
Speaker 12: the August holidays, and the leader of this is a

2026
01:42:54,413 --> 01:42:56,973
Speaker 12: guy called Robbie, and they're ramping up their campaign against

2027
01:42:56,973 --> 01:43:00,453
Speaker 12: these London property owners when these two families arrive and

2028
01:43:00,493 --> 01:43:02,413
Speaker 12: the real locals are having to make deal with these

2029
01:43:02,413 --> 01:43:04,893
Speaker 12: static caravans in all year round, and you know, they

2030
01:43:04,893 --> 01:43:07,893
Speaker 12: haven't really sort of done anything but bad. They've protests

2031
01:43:07,893 --> 01:43:10,893
Speaker 12: have been low key and egging cars and a bit

2032
01:43:10,933 --> 01:43:13,813
Speaker 12: of graffiti on walls, and then somewhere along the line

2033
01:43:13,893 --> 01:43:17,093
Speaker 12: this has got really serious, right. And the start of

2034
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:20,093
Speaker 12: the book is situated around a house falling into the sea,

2035
01:43:20,213 --> 01:43:22,573
Speaker 12: but most of the story takes place and the lead

2036
01:43:22,653 --> 01:43:25,093
Speaker 12: up to this with the dynamics between the characters and

2037
01:43:25,093 --> 01:43:28,733
Speaker 12: becoming increasingly complex. So you get this secrets and lies

2038
01:43:28,853 --> 01:43:31,773
Speaker 12: and acts and criminal activities and lots of mistrust and

2039
01:43:31,813 --> 01:43:34,853
Speaker 12: hatreds and tangled relationships and amongst it, and lots of

2040
01:43:34,893 --> 01:43:38,653
Speaker 12: greed and envy, and you know, locals versus outsiders debate

2041
01:43:38,693 --> 01:43:41,253
Speaker 12: when it comes to the property ownership. And because the

2042
01:43:41,293 --> 01:43:43,893
Speaker 12: story is told over these dual timelines and multiple points

2043
01:43:43,933 --> 01:43:45,693
Speaker 12: of view, you get to see all of the characters

2044
01:43:45,733 --> 01:43:49,133
Speaker 12: and their secrets and flaws, and the way that characters

2045
01:43:49,133 --> 01:43:51,293
Speaker 12: react so differently from each other when they're in the

2046
01:43:51,333 --> 01:43:55,253
Speaker 12: same situation, and that divide between class and in generation

2047
01:43:55,373 --> 01:43:59,293
Speaker 12: women relationships, and just lots of intriguing dynas going on

2048
01:43:59,333 --> 01:44:01,493
Speaker 12: in this book. And yet it's really interesting the way

2049
01:44:01,533 --> 01:44:04,373
Speaker 12: everybody kind of melds together or doesn't, as the case

2050
01:44:04,413 --> 01:44:04,573
Speaker 12: may be.

2051
01:44:04,733 --> 01:44:07,333
Speaker 2: They are nice, okay, very good. That sounds intriguing. So

2052
01:44:07,413 --> 01:44:11,453
Speaker 2: that's our holiday. It's by Louise Candlish. Robin Harding has

2053
01:44:11,493 --> 01:44:12,613
Speaker 2: written The Haters.

2054
01:44:13,773 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 12: So this is about a school counselor called Cameron, and

2055
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:19,693
Speaker 12: she's just published a new book and this is finally

2056
01:44:19,693 --> 01:44:22,653
Speaker 12: her dreams have come true and everything is going really

2057
01:44:22,693 --> 01:44:25,973
Speaker 12: well until she gets this message from an unknown person

2058
01:44:26,093 --> 01:44:28,733
Speaker 12: and she tries to forget about it, and then she

2059
01:44:28,813 --> 01:44:32,293
Speaker 12: gets this absolutely scathing one star review on her book,

2060
01:44:32,453 --> 01:44:34,453
Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, there's loads of bad

2061
01:44:34,493 --> 01:44:37,893
Speaker 12: reviews and online trolling starts to creep into her personal

2062
01:44:37,933 --> 01:44:41,053
Speaker 12: life and it really crosses the line from angry reader

2063
01:44:41,133 --> 01:44:43,533
Speaker 12: to feeling like someone and is out to get it.

2064
01:44:44,013 --> 01:44:47,293
Speaker 12: And there's so many interesting and suspicious characters in this book.

2065
01:44:47,893 --> 01:44:50,733
Speaker 12: But also on the flip side of this, her personal

2066
01:44:50,773 --> 01:44:54,493
Speaker 12: life isn't going too well either, and her job and

2067
01:44:54,533 --> 01:44:57,613
Speaker 12: her teenage daughter Eliza, and her new boyfriend Theo, and

2068
01:44:57,653 --> 01:45:00,733
Speaker 12: even her longtime friends and then his husband and his wife,

2069
01:45:00,773 --> 01:45:03,373
Speaker 12: and writers groups and work colleagues, and she gets to

2070
01:45:03,413 --> 01:45:03,893
Speaker 12: the point.

2071
01:45:03,733 --> 01:45:06,253
Speaker 17: Where she just doesn't know who to trust.

2072
01:45:06,933 --> 01:45:10,333
Speaker 12: And throwing into this mix is this very unlikable student

2073
01:45:10,373 --> 01:45:13,813
Speaker 12: in her professional life who she tries to help but

2074
01:45:13,973 --> 01:45:16,453
Speaker 12: she just can't. And so you get this book that's

2075
01:45:16,493 --> 01:45:20,213
Speaker 12: interspersed with chapters from Cameron's own book, a book called Burnt.

2076
01:45:20,213 --> 01:45:23,173
Speaker 12: Also you get this clever book within a book, and

2077
01:45:23,213 --> 01:45:26,093
Speaker 12: her book is actually about young teens with problems, and

2078
01:45:26,133 --> 01:45:28,653
Speaker 12: in her mind it's all fiction and not based on

2079
01:45:28,733 --> 01:45:31,493
Speaker 12: any of her students and their problems, and you get

2080
01:45:31,493 --> 01:45:34,773
Speaker 12: this very tense story about social media and engaging with

2081
01:45:34,853 --> 01:45:37,573
Speaker 12: trolls and how horrible people can be when they hide

2082
01:45:37,573 --> 01:45:40,973
Speaker 12: behind that ammininity of the Internet, and her life feels

2083
01:45:40,973 --> 01:45:44,693
Speaker 12: like it's systematically broken apart. And it's less thriller like

2084
01:45:44,813 --> 01:45:48,093
Speaker 12: than Robin Harding's previous books have been and more this

2085
01:45:48,213 --> 01:45:53,013
Speaker 12: character driven domestic suspense novel and sly reveals in secrets,

2086
01:45:53,093 --> 01:45:55,333
Speaker 12: and it's very tense, and you keep turning the pages

2087
01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:58,133
Speaker 12: because actually just really want to know what happens.

2088
01:45:58,253 --> 01:46:01,373
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that sounds sounds great. Okay, So that's The

2089
01:46:01,413 --> 01:46:05,013
Speaker 2: Haters by Robin Harding. Catherine's first book is Our Holiday

2090
01:46:05,053 --> 01:46:07,733
Speaker 2: by Louise Candlish. And make sure both of those titles

2091
01:46:07,773 --> 01:46:09,613
Speaker 2: are up on the News Talks. He'd be websites if

2092
01:46:09,613 --> 01:46:11,733
Speaker 2: you want to read them too, seventeen to twelve on

2093
01:46:11,773 --> 01:46:14,573
Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be new music from Sean Cunningham for

2094
01:46:14,613 --> 01:46:15,813
Speaker 2: you in a couple of minutes.

2095
01:46:16,013 --> 01:46:18,533
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

2096
01:46:18,693 --> 01:46:21,733
Speaker 1: Us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and bepuwre dot co

2097
01:46:21,853 --> 01:46:24,773
Speaker 1: dotence it for high Quality Supplements US Talks.

2098
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Speaker 21: It be picks me r tis me out, sports, my cigarette,

2099
01:46:32,693 --> 01:46:37,893
Speaker 21: drink my temment, tix me home lives there, summer dream

2100
01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:40,693
Speaker 21: could be my home.

2101
01:46:46,013 --> 01:46:51,733
Speaker 2: Swig mir versus Sean Cunningham. That song is called Honeybee.

2102
01:46:52,053 --> 01:46:55,453
Speaker 2: He's just released an album called Whatever that Is, and

2103
01:46:55,493 --> 01:47:00,053
Speaker 2: our music review at Cel Clifford has been listening Morina Marina.

2104
01:47:00,293 --> 01:47:04,053
Speaker 17: That's actually one of my favorites entire album, Honeybee, and

2105
01:47:04,133 --> 01:47:05,813
Speaker 17: a reason to go back and listen to it a

2106
01:47:05,813 --> 01:47:09,053
Speaker 17: few times. That driving percussion beat that you can hear

2107
01:47:09,693 --> 01:47:11,893
Speaker 17: is actually Sewn slapping his knee.

2108
01:47:12,253 --> 01:47:17,133
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, yeah playing At the same time, he's like,

2109
01:47:24,093 --> 01:47:25,933
Speaker 2: where we have like the symbols between your knees and

2110
01:47:26,293 --> 01:47:27,013
Speaker 2: what one man.

2111
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Speaker 17: I mean if he wants to be a solo artist,

2112
01:47:30,893 --> 01:47:33,613
Speaker 17: you know, like I mean, maybe he hasn't visualized that

2113
01:47:33,693 --> 01:47:34,173
Speaker 17: for himself.

2114
01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:36,533
Speaker 2: Was I'm not being crazy.

2115
01:47:36,693 --> 01:47:37,053
Speaker 4: It was.

2116
01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:42,373
Speaker 17: Also some really great street performers who is amazing.

2117
01:47:42,453 --> 01:47:45,133
Speaker 2: Sorry, anyway, we've immediately the.

2118
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Speaker 17: Great thing about recording a solo album is you can

2119
01:47:48,733 --> 01:47:51,773
Speaker 17: do all the layers yourself, and so he created this

2120
01:47:52,653 --> 01:47:54,973
Speaker 17: percussion drum beat on his knee and it is just

2121
01:47:55,053 --> 01:47:58,093
Speaker 17: knee slaps. Mike nice and close recorded it like that,

2122
01:47:58,453 --> 01:48:02,973
Speaker 17: and it gives us real driving rhythm to underneath. Inspired

2123
01:48:03,013 --> 01:48:06,293
Speaker 17: by the Beatles. If you watch that massive long docker

2124
01:48:06,893 --> 01:48:09,573
Speaker 17: of the Beatles putting their album together before they broke up. Oh,

2125
01:48:10,773 --> 01:48:14,533
Speaker 17: Paul McCartney's also sometimes done, you know, like a driving

2126
01:48:14,573 --> 01:48:17,373
Speaker 17: percussion beat or something that's just playing around with something

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01:48:17,413 --> 01:48:20,853
Speaker 17: that's not a traditional instrument. Sort of influenced by by

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01:48:20,893 --> 01:48:24,053
Speaker 17: those guys. But yeah, Honeybee, great song. Definitely one of

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01:48:24,093 --> 01:48:26,973
Speaker 17: my favorites on the album. This is a really cool

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01:48:27,013 --> 01:48:29,573
Speaker 17: evolution I think for Sean Cunningham. I mean he was

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01:48:29,653 --> 01:48:31,573
Speaker 17: huge here. If we give a little bit of history

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01:48:32,213 --> 01:48:32,973
Speaker 17: to the band.

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Speaker 2: Atlas, yeah we had, but we played it.

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Speaker 17: Did you play Crawl?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:48:39,173 --> 01:48:39,573
Speaker 9: That was just.

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Speaker 17: Take you back all wearing our bootleg jeans, massive chunky

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01:48:45,093 --> 01:48:50,253
Speaker 17: belts with the big yeah like emo rock. You know,

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01:48:50,693 --> 01:48:53,173
Speaker 17: you're wearing a dark eyeliner and your fringe all weird

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01:48:53,213 --> 01:48:57,293
Speaker 17: and spiky over your forehead and just look. He had

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01:48:57,373 --> 01:48:59,653
Speaker 17: such a cool voice that really stood out on that song,

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01:48:59,693 --> 01:49:02,653
Speaker 17: and I think that's what made it stand out.

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01:49:02,973 --> 01:49:06,813
Speaker 2: Was very successful. That song was incredibly successful in New Zealand, and.

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Speaker 17: So he carried on with that band for a little while.

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01:49:09,053 --> 01:49:10,853
Speaker 17: But then what broke them up. I didn't know this

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01:49:10,933 --> 01:49:13,853
Speaker 17: was that he lost his voice. So he lost his

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01:49:13,933 --> 01:49:17,573
Speaker 17: ability to sing, and after like going back to Nashville,

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01:49:17,653 --> 01:49:20,213
Speaker 17: he had to seek like some full on treatment and

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Speaker 17: things and was going through therapy for his voice. Turns

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01:49:22,653 --> 01:49:26,053
Speaker 17: out major allergies, but also the past smoker just all

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01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:29,373
Speaker 17: caught up on him, and yeah, he had to like

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01:49:29,373 --> 01:49:31,333
Speaker 17: go on some full on allergy stuff. Instead of start

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01:49:31,333 --> 01:49:34,093
Speaker 17: of getting his voice back, he went into another band

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01:49:34,213 --> 01:49:36,453
Speaker 17: when he was in Nashville and in the States, and

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01:49:36,493 --> 01:49:38,613
Speaker 17: they were quite successful for a while too over there,

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01:49:38,653 --> 01:49:41,493
Speaker 17: but he said he got sick of the band politics

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01:49:41,853 --> 01:49:46,293
Speaker 17: right my Love, Yeah, totally right, And he'd been banned

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01:49:46,293 --> 01:49:48,413
Speaker 17: since high school and it was like, what else, what's

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01:49:48,453 --> 01:49:50,773
Speaker 17: the evolution next? And so I think taking the solo

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01:49:50,893 --> 01:49:54,333
Speaker 17: thing means that he's probably you know, you're mature, you grow,

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Speaker 17: and you also are willing to delve into your emotions

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01:49:57,013 --> 01:50:01,293
Speaker 17: a little bit further. And he definitely does that. One

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01:50:01,293 --> 01:50:04,853
Speaker 17: of the title track, whatever that is. He said he

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01:50:04,893 --> 01:50:08,413
Speaker 17: wrote that about six months prior to his dad passing, right,

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Speaker 17: And so we've been having these really intense chats with

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01:50:10,413 --> 01:50:14,573
Speaker 17: his dad about aging and you know, you you still

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01:50:14,573 --> 01:50:17,533
Speaker 17: feel like you're twenty something inside, but your body's seventy something,

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01:50:17,733 --> 01:50:19,893
Speaker 17: and you know what does that mean and what does

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01:50:19,893 --> 01:50:21,573
Speaker 17: it look like and what does it mean for life?

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Speaker 17: So quite a special song for him, I think, to

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Speaker 17: share and have on his album after his you know

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01:50:28,213 --> 01:50:30,813
Speaker 17: dad eventually passing, and that's actually been a really big

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01:50:30,853 --> 01:50:33,893
Speaker 17: single for him to so again, he has that really

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01:50:33,973 --> 01:50:38,613
Speaker 17: stellar voice. Sometimes he reminds me of Passenger with that,

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01:50:39,453 --> 01:50:42,893
Speaker 17: you know, that real rolling rhythm and melody that Passenger

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01:50:42,933 --> 01:50:46,853
Speaker 17: gets gets his songs, and when it's an acoustic guitar

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01:50:47,533 --> 01:50:49,973
Speaker 17: and a few sort of drum percussion of bits behind him,

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01:50:50,013 --> 01:50:52,813
Speaker 17: he's got that kind of sort of indie folk sort

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01:50:52,853 --> 01:50:55,973
Speaker 17: of sound about him. Yeah, And it's really great because

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01:50:56,013 --> 01:50:58,053
Speaker 17: it feels like he's more in tune with what he

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01:50:58,093 --> 01:51:00,853
Speaker 17: wants to do musically. So I think I like that

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01:51:00,973 --> 01:51:04,213
Speaker 17: evolution in him finding his place, I suppose after being

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01:51:04,253 --> 01:51:07,613
Speaker 17: a band member for so yeah. So this album definitely

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01:51:07,653 --> 01:51:11,293
Speaker 17: is more touching on his personal stories, his personal journeys,

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01:51:12,053 --> 01:51:13,813
Speaker 17: and for me, I feel like you can connect with

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01:51:13,893 --> 01:51:17,693
Speaker 17: him more as an artist because of that and just

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01:51:17,733 --> 01:51:20,453
Speaker 17: finding what his style is. And I get that sometimes

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01:51:20,453 --> 01:51:21,973
Speaker 17: you try and be all the different things, right, you

2189
01:51:22,013 --> 01:51:23,973
Speaker 17: do rock and you do pop, that actually you can

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01:51:23,973 --> 01:51:27,173
Speaker 17: bring all of those things together and make a really

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01:51:27,213 --> 01:51:31,333
Speaker 17: cohesive musically. There's some really beautiful moments in this and

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01:51:31,413 --> 01:51:35,213
Speaker 17: sometimes it's because it's quite simplistic and more of that

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01:51:35,293 --> 01:51:39,093
Speaker 17: acoustic and in other times it's like lots of layers

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01:51:39,653 --> 01:51:42,933
Speaker 17: with the electronics stuff he's put in as well, so

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01:51:43,053 --> 01:51:46,493
Speaker 17: more encompassing full anthem type songs, you know what I mean.

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01:51:46,973 --> 01:51:49,173
Speaker 17: And again, now that I've seen Passenger at live a

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01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:50,813
Speaker 17: couple of times, it's kind of something that he sort

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01:51:50,813 --> 01:51:54,373
Speaker 17: of does too, definitely reflective on a lot of his

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01:51:55,893 --> 01:51:59,773
Speaker 17: One of his songs called Lonesome No More, that's a

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01:51:59,853 --> 01:52:01,973
Speaker 17: really good track too, and that's sort of him commenting

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01:52:01,973 --> 01:52:06,053
Speaker 17: about his sobriety journey. So again, real personal stories, you

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01:52:06,413 --> 01:52:09,693
Speaker 17: can do that when it's just about you. But I

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01:52:09,733 --> 01:52:11,813
Speaker 17: really like what he's done here is he's really taken on.

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01:52:11,933 --> 01:52:13,573
Speaker 17: But the album goes on a bit of a journey,

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01:52:13,693 --> 01:52:15,893
Speaker 17: so you know, from start to finish, just quite a

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01:52:15,933 --> 01:52:17,533
Speaker 17: good way to listen to it. A few times, I

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01:52:17,573 --> 01:52:21,453
Speaker 17: think beautiful music to perhaps sometimes just having the background

2208
01:52:21,493 --> 01:52:25,133
Speaker 17: while you're doing stuff. Other times real turn up tunes

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01:52:25,773 --> 01:52:27,373
Speaker 17: you can kind of come in and out of this album,

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01:52:27,373 --> 01:52:30,093
Speaker 17: which I really I think is is really great, real

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01:52:30,413 --> 01:52:32,813
Speaker 17: beautiful listen, and he is coming here to tour I

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01:52:32,853 --> 01:52:34,533
Speaker 17: believe in summer some stage.

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01:52:34,333 --> 01:52:36,573
Speaker 2: Very good as a solo artist. So what did you

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01:52:36,573 --> 01:52:36,893
Speaker 2: give it?

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01:52:37,173 --> 01:52:39,573
Speaker 17: Get your hands sleps ready, isn't eight out of ten

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01:52:39,613 --> 01:52:39,893
Speaker 17: for me?

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01:52:41,293 --> 01:52:44,293
Speaker 2: That is? I knew you'd be concerned. I was wrong.

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01:52:45,053 --> 01:52:50,933
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It was Dick van Dyke and Mary Poppins.

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01:52:51,253 --> 01:52:56,453
Speaker 17: Remembers you blur those two movies together like something, am I?

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01:52:56,533 --> 01:52:59,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, surely I'm not the only one who does our fault.

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01:52:59,773 --> 01:53:00,893
Speaker 17: They cast the same cast for.

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01:53:00,853 --> 01:53:04,293
Speaker 2: Nearly every exactly. Yeah, so it was Dick Van Dyke

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01:53:04,333 --> 01:53:07,733
Speaker 2: and Mary Propins sorry who was doing the right there back?

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01:53:07,853 --> 01:53:10,773
Speaker 2: Which is totally unrelated to Sean Cunningham, just to be totally.

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01:53:10,453 --> 01:53:13,333
Speaker 17: Clear, so we could pitch it to him, right.

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01:53:13,333 --> 01:53:17,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's a talented guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thanks

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Speaker 2: of Stelle the stelle quimage our music reviewer. There eight

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01:53:20,733 --> 01:53:22,773
Speaker 2: out of ten for whatever that is from Sean cunning

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Speaker 2: and what have a bit more of a listen in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes right now? It is eight to twelve.

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Speaker 2: next Saturday morning. Until then, we're gonna leave you with

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Speaker 2: Sean Cunningham. This is, whatever that is, See you next week, Saddle.

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Speaker 21: What is life if you don't live it awright?

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01:55:05,653 --> 01:55:07,693
Speaker 1: Is it just used to turn.

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Speaker 16: To we go again?

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Speaker 12: Or is this.

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01:55:14,653 --> 01:55:24,453
Speaker 16: Really the same We all stuck in time for every

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01:55:24,653 --> 01:55:27,973
Speaker 16: kids screwing up now as.

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01:55:27,973 --> 01:55:29,333
Speaker 21: Much as we ever did.

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Speaker 16: Still get in high, Still get in by whatever.

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Speaker 15: That is, whatever that.

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Speaker 2: Just trying.

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Speaker 6: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

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