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Speaker 1: Aviation New Zealand fee, Sorry Airways New Zealand fees. Getting

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Speaker 1: a look under the hood. This is part of the reason,

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Speaker 1: part of the reason why we pay more to fly

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Speaker 1: around the country. The Associate Transport Minister, James Mega says,

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Speaker 1: reviewing a bunch is reviewing a bunch of stuff. He's

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Speaker 1: released the Aviation Action Plan. Billy Moore is the Airport's

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Speaker 1: Association CEO with me this morning, Billy, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the plan?

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Speaker 2: Look, we're really happy to see this plan come out.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe, but there's never really been a

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Speaker 2: government aviation plan or strategy before, so this is the

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Speaker 2: first time that something like this has come out where

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Speaker 2: government and industry have come together, set some objectives and

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Speaker 2: will get some Government effort's mobilized around the aviation sector.

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Speaker 2: Most of the effort and government policy is very much

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Speaker 2: in land transport. So we're really keen to make the

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Speaker 2: most of this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: How is it that we've had basically an outdated student

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Speaker 1: loan cap for people who want to be pilots, you know,

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Speaker 1: the loan doesn't cover the tuition fees.

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Speaker 2: Well, Look, it's been a big issue and something the

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Speaker 2: industry has been talking with government about for a long time.

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Speaker 2: We haven't got so far in this plan in terms

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Speaker 2: of getting a commitment to listing the loan cap, but

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Speaker 2: there is a commitment from the Ministry of Education to

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Speaker 2: work on the overall policy settings on pilot training. It

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Speaker 2: is going to be essential to sort something out there.

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Speaker 2: Pilot's going to be in huge demand globally as we

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Speaker 2: get more innovations in the aviation sector, including vertical take

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Speaker 2: off aircraft. We already have a shortage, so we've got

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Speaker 2: to get a move on in that space. So at

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Speaker 2: least we've got a commitment to a work program there.

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Speaker 1: I see a HARKA is getting an upgrade. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be the ultimate for wide body aircraft. What happens

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Speaker 1: with Auckland, Like if you're flying into Auckland and Auckland

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Speaker 1: Airport's out of action, where do you go to in

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Speaker 1: a big plane.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's different for different airlines, but the key thing

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Speaker 2: is airlines need the certainty that they've got options for

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Speaker 2: alternate lending. So it's really normal for them to have

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Speaker 2: an alternate nominated. But a HAKIA is a really important

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Speaker 2: one and we haven't had twey for seven options for

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Speaker 2: a hacker to be available to the airlines and situations

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Speaker 2: where there it's safe for weather or other issues, so

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Speaker 2: it helps a lot. Otherwise they need to carry more

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Speaker 2: fuel to go further south, say the christ Church.

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Speaker 1: Yes so because basically if you're coming into Auckland, Auckland's

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Speaker 1: out of action, there's nowhere you'd have to go, what

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Speaker 1: to the South Island.

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Speaker 2: Potentially sometimes to Wellington, but Wellington isn't always suitable, although

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Speaker 2: it will be soon when they've got their runway upgrades completed.

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Speaker 2: So it's about having more options. Just gives airlines greater

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Speaker 2: certainty and we could.

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Speaker 1: At least get to a high yet. But is that

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Speaker 1: weird because it's the biggest airport, it's where most people

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Speaker 1: fly into when the closest you can get is like

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Speaker 1: a five hour drive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Hamilton might be an option at some stage

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Speaker 2: as well. The more options and good infrastructure that we have,

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Speaker 2: the better. Really on this plan will also focus on

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Speaker 2: the future infrastructure requires requirements we need in the system,

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Speaker 2: including airspace and having a haker on that list and

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Speaker 2: the ability for that to be available for longer hours

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Speaker 2: for your line. It's going to be an important first step.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Billy

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Speaker 1: Moore in New Zealand Airports Association Chief Executive.

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