1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,507 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,707 --> 00:00:15,907 Speaker 2: B un your Tall Blacks. Meantime, we'll meet Slovenia in 4 00:00:15,947 --> 00:00:18,587 Speaker 2: the playoff for third and fourth at the Under nineteen 5 00:00:18,667 --> 00:00:20,547 Speaker 2: World Cup in Switzerland and. 6 00:00:20,667 --> 00:00:26,467 Speaker 3: Tibble this one out as Team USA absolutely rocket themselves 7 00:00:27,147 --> 00:00:34,267 Speaker 3: into the final of the FOEB Under nineteen Welcome Plumtree 8 00:00:34,307 --> 00:00:37,787 Speaker 3: will hit the three at the end just for good measure, 9 00:00:38,427 --> 00:00:41,627 Speaker 3: Team USA with a tomin and victory. 10 00:00:42,187 --> 00:00:45,827 Speaker 2: Yep, they have beaten New Zealand, have the United States, 11 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:48,387 Speaker 2: But the Tall Blacks, the junior Tall Blacks sorry, have 12 00:00:48,507 --> 00:00:51,827 Speaker 2: the chance to achieve New Zealand's best ever finish at 13 00:00:51,867 --> 00:00:55,507 Speaker 2: a FEB event, following the Tall Blacks famous fourth place 14 00:00:55,547 --> 00:00:58,947 Speaker 2: at the World Cup in two thousand and two, emulated 15 00:00:59,307 --> 00:01:02,867 Speaker 2: by our under seventeen men's side at their World Cup 16 00:01:02,987 --> 00:01:05,427 Speaker 2: last year, and our five of that team are in 17 00:01:05,507 --> 00:01:08,547 Speaker 2: this under nineteen side. Let's bring in Tall Blacks coach 18 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:12,067 Speaker 2: jud Flavel, who I'm sure has been a very very 19 00:01:12,107 --> 00:01:16,107 Speaker 2: interested onlooker this week at the games playing out in Switzerland. Jod, 20 00:01:16,147 --> 00:01:18,707 Speaker 2: thanks for your tom What has impressed you the most 21 00:01:19,187 --> 00:01:21,707 Speaker 2: when you've watched these young men play this week. 22 00:01:23,027 --> 00:01:26,867 Speaker 4: Oh, interested in riding the wave with these boys in 23 00:01:26,907 --> 00:01:29,267 Speaker 4: this team and Matt Lacy the coach, you know, just 24 00:01:29,787 --> 00:01:32,627 Speaker 4: I like with a lot of the basketball fraternity in 25 00:01:32,707 --> 00:01:35,947 Speaker 4: New Zealand, you know, one behind this scene that made 26 00:01:35,987 --> 00:01:39,147 Speaker 4: us proud. And I think for a number of reasons. 27 00:01:39,147 --> 00:01:42,427 Speaker 4: You know, firstly, just competing on this world stage, which 28 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:46,707 Speaker 4: we know is a true global sport, and they're taking 29 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:49,267 Speaker 4: on the heavyweights of the world and really holding their 30 00:01:49,307 --> 00:01:52,427 Speaker 4: heads up high, and they have a real self confidence 31 00:01:53,067 --> 00:01:56,867 Speaker 4: about themselves. And yeah, the gold medals out of reach 32 00:01:56,987 --> 00:02:00,107 Speaker 4: right now, but they truly believe that, you know, that's 33 00:02:00,147 --> 00:02:03,587 Speaker 4: where they belong. And along with the rest of us, 34 00:02:03,627 --> 00:02:05,907 Speaker 4: that felt like this group was a special group that 35 00:02:05,947 --> 00:02:08,467 Speaker 4: they could do some things with. So the confidence that 36 00:02:08,467 --> 00:02:13,307 Speaker 4: they're playing with, the connection that they're playing with, you know, 37 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:16,747 Speaker 4: and two important things that as we know with elite 38 00:02:16,787 --> 00:02:19,187 Speaker 4: sport and high performance sport, that you must have and 39 00:02:19,787 --> 00:02:23,427 Speaker 4: these guys are doing that. And you know, the crazy 40 00:02:23,467 --> 00:02:25,907 Speaker 4: thing is that there are always little things there that 41 00:02:26,467 --> 00:02:28,587 Speaker 4: the team can actually brush up on. And maybe that's 42 00:02:28,627 --> 00:02:31,347 Speaker 4: the coach side on me that's coming out, but I 43 00:02:31,387 --> 00:02:34,107 Speaker 4: would say that they have probably felt like they haven't 44 00:02:34,107 --> 00:02:37,307 Speaker 4: one hundred percent put it all together. Yet you know, 45 00:02:37,307 --> 00:02:40,867 Speaker 4: they had some really good performances from players, but as 46 00:02:40,867 --> 00:02:43,187 Speaker 4: a collective group, I think there's more in the tank there. 47 00:02:43,227 --> 00:02:45,267 Speaker 4: So it really sets it up well for us, you know, 48 00:02:45,547 --> 00:02:48,107 Speaker 4: the biggest game that we're we've got for New Zealand 49 00:02:48,147 --> 00:02:52,667 Speaker 4: basketball right now and the biggest opportunity to grab a metal. 50 00:02:52,947 --> 00:02:54,667 Speaker 2: You alluded to it there, jud But do you get 51 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:58,507 Speaker 2: a sense now that participating at FEVER events is no 52 00:02:58,627 --> 00:03:01,067 Speaker 2: longer enough for our best players, that they have a 53 00:03:01,107 --> 00:03:05,467 Speaker 2: realistic desire to beat teams and go deep in tournaments 54 00:03:05,507 --> 00:03:05,747 Speaker 2: like this. 55 00:03:07,147 --> 00:03:09,747 Speaker 4: Well, if I do, you know, peel back the years 56 00:03:09,787 --> 00:03:11,507 Speaker 4: and go back to when we first came on the 57 00:03:11,507 --> 00:03:13,387 Speaker 4: scene and went to that World Cup in two thousand 58 00:03:13,427 --> 00:03:16,187 Speaker 4: and two, a large part of it was actually, you know, 59 00:03:16,227 --> 00:03:19,187 Speaker 4: we felt like we didn't know really what to expect 60 00:03:19,827 --> 00:03:22,307 Speaker 4: the first time we went. And the beauty about it 61 00:03:22,707 --> 00:03:25,467 Speaker 4: these days is that, you know, we've moved into the 62 00:03:25,507 --> 00:03:29,507 Speaker 4: Asian region, so we're getting international experiences as fifteen year 63 00:03:29,507 --> 00:03:33,227 Speaker 4: olds are qualifying for World Cups and they're getting this 64 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:37,707 Speaker 4: experience that for the first time and as we know, 65 00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 4: you know, like tasting a little bit of exposure and 66 00:03:42,907 --> 00:03:46,387 Speaker 4: getting those opportunities is all growth, and that's what we've 67 00:03:46,387 --> 00:03:49,547 Speaker 4: seen with our sports and our national teams. And now 68 00:03:49,547 --> 00:03:53,227 Speaker 4: we're getting more more athletes and teams that are going 69 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,947 Speaker 4: as an age group team to World Cups. And this 70 00:03:56,067 --> 00:03:58,867 Speaker 4: is only going to put you know, if you fast 71 00:03:59,067 --> 00:04:01,987 Speaker 4: forward and look further down the track, it's only going 72 00:04:02,027 --> 00:04:04,947 Speaker 4: to put our senior national teams in great positions to 73 00:04:05,027 --> 00:04:09,587 Speaker 4: do something on the world stage as well. So it's 74 00:04:09,987 --> 00:04:13,467 Speaker 4: certainly getting the exposure and you know, these kids are 75 00:04:13,507 --> 00:04:16,547 Speaker 4: now believing that they truly belong and that they should 76 00:04:16,547 --> 00:04:19,347 Speaker 4: go into these semi finals and beat teams, and you 77 00:04:19,387 --> 00:04:22,027 Speaker 4: know that that's an amazing mindset to have. And I 78 00:04:22,067 --> 00:04:24,467 Speaker 4: think with the participation numbers that we have coming through, 79 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 4: I made a comment the other day on an interview 80 00:04:26,947 --> 00:04:29,747 Speaker 4: and just talked about the participation numbers just being huge. 81 00:04:30,587 --> 00:04:32,587 Speaker 4: We actually have more participants than what we do have 82 00:04:32,627 --> 00:04:35,187 Speaker 4: basketball hoops, and you know, these boys still have to 83 00:04:35,227 --> 00:04:37,987 Speaker 4: pay thousands of dollars to get to these opportunities. So 84 00:04:38,507 --> 00:04:40,747 Speaker 4: somewhere along the lines we actually you know, there may 85 00:04:40,787 --> 00:04:43,427 Speaker 4: be more players there that are missing out, but yeah, 86 00:04:43,427 --> 00:04:44,347 Speaker 4: the future is bright. 87 00:04:45,027 --> 00:04:48,827 Speaker 2: How much has playing in our National Basketball League and 88 00:04:48,947 --> 00:04:53,187 Speaker 2: particularly the new innovation the Rapid League helped to develop 89 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:54,067 Speaker 2: these young players. 90 00:04:55,627 --> 00:04:59,427 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up because you know, Justin Nelson, 91 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:02,987 Speaker 4: who you know, is an Australian and you know, we'd 92 00:05:03,067 --> 00:05:05,467 Speaker 4: like to sort of take all the credit or ourselves 93 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:08,067 Speaker 4: as New Islanders, but look, we've got to pay this 94 00:05:08,227 --> 00:05:11,347 Speaker 4: man some respect because he brought in a new concept 95 00:05:11,427 --> 00:05:16,587 Speaker 4: that probably wasn't you know, I guess brought in by 96 00:05:17,107 --> 00:05:19,267 Speaker 4: everybody straight away when you have a new concept that 97 00:05:19,347 --> 00:05:22,747 Speaker 4: comes in and look, we're three years I think it's 98 00:05:22,787 --> 00:05:25,667 Speaker 4: three years deep into it and we've seen the results. 99 00:05:25,787 --> 00:05:28,107 Speaker 4: These all of these boys, I think all but two 100 00:05:28,907 --> 00:05:31,867 Speaker 4: have played in Rapid League and they would have started 101 00:05:31,867 --> 00:05:35,587 Speaker 4: that two years ago and seen them on the basketball 102 00:05:35,627 --> 00:05:37,867 Speaker 4: court being able to mix it with the you know, 103 00:05:37,947 --> 00:05:40,227 Speaker 4: with grown men. So they're not just playing against guys 104 00:05:40,227 --> 00:05:42,547 Speaker 4: their own age group. They're playing against thirty year olds. 105 00:05:42,947 --> 00:05:46,147 Speaker 4: And these thirty year olds are fully professional, some are 106 00:05:46,187 --> 00:05:50,147 Speaker 4: semi professional. And but you've got you know, American imports 107 00:05:50,147 --> 00:05:53,027 Speaker 4: playing in there. You've got Jean Tourbacks that play in 108 00:05:53,027 --> 00:05:56,267 Speaker 4: that league. You've got guys that playing in the Australian NBL, 109 00:05:56,347 --> 00:05:59,867 Speaker 4: Aussie Boomers, and these guys have you know, I guess, 110 00:05:59,867 --> 00:06:03,867 Speaker 4: been battled, hardened and tested on a week to week basis. 111 00:06:03,867 --> 00:06:09,907 Speaker 4: So we unfortunately don't have a central academy or these 112 00:06:10,187 --> 00:06:12,907 Speaker 4: high performance hubs that we able to you know, collect 113 00:06:12,907 --> 00:06:15,467 Speaker 4: these guys altogether. So the next best thing we have, though, 114 00:06:16,107 --> 00:06:18,347 Speaker 4: may just even be better when they are able to 115 00:06:19,227 --> 00:06:22,747 Speaker 4: have mixed in their environment. They're training daily, training environment 116 00:06:22,787 --> 00:06:24,707 Speaker 4: with a lot of these grown men, and that's just 117 00:06:24,787 --> 00:06:27,587 Speaker 4: fast tracked these guys' development and confidence. And you see 118 00:06:27,587 --> 00:06:30,667 Speaker 4: them when they play that you know, maybe except for 119 00:06:30,747 --> 00:06:33,387 Speaker 4: this morning against the US, the might of the USA, 120 00:06:33,547 --> 00:06:35,947 Speaker 4: which is, as we know, the basketball nation of the world. 121 00:06:37,507 --> 00:06:40,587 Speaker 4: But besides that, you know, this team has they come into, 122 00:06:40,707 --> 00:06:43,187 Speaker 4: like I said, the expectation that they can take down anybody. 123 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 2: By my count, and you're about to correct me here, 124 00:06:45,827 --> 00:06:48,267 Speaker 2: six of this on the nineteen side have already played 125 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:51,747 Speaker 2: for the senior Tourblacks. How do you know if a 126 00:06:51,787 --> 00:06:53,747 Speaker 2: young player is ready for that step? 127 00:06:55,427 --> 00:06:58,507 Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, I mean since since been I guess I've 128 00:06:58,507 --> 00:07:01,147 Speaker 4: been eight nine months into the role of the Tour 129 00:07:01,227 --> 00:07:04,987 Speaker 4: Backs head coach. And a huge focal point for me was, 130 00:07:05,267 --> 00:07:08,387 Speaker 4: you know, like I'm a I'm in New Zealand through 131 00:07:08,427 --> 00:07:10,467 Speaker 4: them through and I was a New Zealand junior player 132 00:07:10,507 --> 00:07:12,547 Speaker 4: too coming through and I got to play for the 133 00:07:12,587 --> 00:07:15,227 Speaker 4: tour Backs. You know, not at the age, not at 134 00:07:15,227 --> 00:07:18,307 Speaker 4: a super young age, but you could just see the 135 00:07:18,387 --> 00:07:20,787 Speaker 4: moments and what it does for people when you when 136 00:07:20,827 --> 00:07:23,667 Speaker 4: you're able to give them that experience and exposure. I 137 00:07:23,667 --> 00:07:26,267 Speaker 4: guess we're saying these words are a lot as I'm 138 00:07:26,507 --> 00:07:29,147 Speaker 4: doing this interview, but and that's what it's all about. 139 00:07:29,227 --> 00:07:33,667 Speaker 4: So we you know, you don't know if that's going 140 00:07:33,747 --> 00:07:37,707 Speaker 4: to be something that's you know, the athlete is going 141 00:07:37,707 --> 00:07:42,667 Speaker 4: to take on and you know really whether it's going 142 00:07:42,707 --> 00:07:45,627 Speaker 4: to be embraced or not. But you give the opportunity 143 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:49,307 Speaker 4: and there's so much to win by offering a youngster 144 00:07:49,507 --> 00:07:55,067 Speaker 4: that has talent or has a special set of skills 145 00:07:55,187 --> 00:08:00,227 Speaker 4: or character attributes, then you know, both integrating them into 146 00:08:00,307 --> 00:08:03,787 Speaker 4: the Tour Blacks. I think we are fast tracking the 147 00:08:03,867 --> 00:08:06,587 Speaker 4: development and also that these guys really build a strong 148 00:08:06,627 --> 00:08:08,987 Speaker 4: connection for it. And a lot of these guys are 149 00:08:08,987 --> 00:08:10,627 Speaker 4: going to go to college and a couple of guys 150 00:08:10,707 --> 00:08:12,467 Speaker 4: have already been there, but you know a lot of 151 00:08:12,507 --> 00:08:14,307 Speaker 4: these guys are going to be in college and for 152 00:08:14,347 --> 00:08:17,307 Speaker 4: the next four or five years, and you know they're 153 00:08:17,307 --> 00:08:18,827 Speaker 4: going to spend a lot of time away from home. 154 00:08:18,867 --> 00:08:20,747 Speaker 4: So while they're at home, you know, part of my 155 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:24,587 Speaker 4: I guess philosophy has been to try to integrate them 156 00:08:24,787 --> 00:08:27,827 Speaker 4: as early as we can. And that's not just you know, 157 00:08:27,947 --> 00:08:29,827 Speaker 4: putting them into We still want to put them into 158 00:08:29,867 --> 00:08:32,947 Speaker 4: positions to be successful. So we'll always take one or two. 159 00:08:34,227 --> 00:08:36,947 Speaker 4: The last series that we had against Trans Tasman, against 160 00:08:37,627 --> 00:08:40,867 Speaker 4: the Australian series, you know we had I think we 161 00:08:40,947 --> 00:08:45,507 Speaker 4: had four of them, you know, Oscar, Julius, Jackson and 162 00:08:45,627 --> 00:08:48,227 Speaker 4: Tamma all four of them, so you know, we were 163 00:08:48,267 --> 00:08:50,547 Speaker 4: super young. But they got to beat Australia, you know, 164 00:08:50,787 --> 00:08:53,627 Speaker 4: Game three in Hamilton, So they're picking up all of 165 00:08:54,147 --> 00:08:57,467 Speaker 4: these opportunities and man, you know, I think that's that's 166 00:08:57,507 --> 00:09:00,747 Speaker 4: the recipe that we need for the success of our basketball. 167 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:03,147 Speaker 4: For the men's program that. 168 00:09:03,147 --> 00:09:05,107 Speaker 2: Two thousand and two saw that you were a part 169 00:09:05,187 --> 00:09:07,867 Speaker 2: of was something of a golden generation. You look at 170 00:09:07,907 --> 00:09:11,227 Speaker 2: the names on that roster, Phil Jones, Kirk Pennepet, Cameron, 171 00:09:11,267 --> 00:09:13,587 Speaker 2: Dylan Boucher was in that team, Sean Marx, Marke Dickle, 172 00:09:13,867 --> 00:09:18,187 Speaker 2: Pauly Hennadi and others. Do you seen some similar side 173 00:09:18,387 --> 00:09:21,387 Speaker 2: building here. 174 00:09:21,947 --> 00:09:24,747 Speaker 4: I think that's that's been a lot of the talk 175 00:09:24,827 --> 00:09:27,467 Speaker 4: around the around the country, and a lot of people 176 00:09:27,507 --> 00:09:31,227 Speaker 4: refer back to that Golden generation which did a lot 177 00:09:31,227 --> 00:09:33,747 Speaker 4: of things on the international stage, and you know that 178 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:35,747 Speaker 4: that team if we go back, you know, like I said, 179 00:09:35,747 --> 00:09:38,987 Speaker 4: we didn't really know what to expect on the international stage. 180 00:09:39,027 --> 00:09:40,827 Speaker 4: We kind of just, you know, once we took down 181 00:09:40,827 --> 00:09:43,387 Speaker 4: the Aussies, we got put into the World Cup and 182 00:09:43,427 --> 00:09:45,427 Speaker 4: we didn't really truly know what, you know, how good 183 00:09:45,467 --> 00:09:48,787 Speaker 4: were we We didn't have much experience back then, but 184 00:09:48,827 --> 00:09:50,267 Speaker 4: we knew that we could be good. We were a 185 00:09:50,307 --> 00:09:54,387 Speaker 4: type group that coming together and obviously with a lot 186 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:57,427 Speaker 4: of talent, with certain guys and their roles. And that's 187 00:09:58,107 --> 00:10:00,387 Speaker 4: I think when we talk about this group and these 188 00:10:00,507 --> 00:10:04,107 Speaker 4: names that are currently at the under nineteen World Cup, 189 00:10:04,987 --> 00:10:06,947 Speaker 4: these will definitely be names that we talk about for 190 00:10:06,987 --> 00:10:09,387 Speaker 4: a long time and certainly with the national program. But 191 00:10:10,387 --> 00:10:12,267 Speaker 4: I think the beauty of it is that these guys 192 00:10:12,347 --> 00:10:17,387 Speaker 4: already at seventeen eighteen years old, know and realize just 193 00:10:17,467 --> 00:10:19,747 Speaker 4: how good they can be and that they are, and 194 00:10:20,227 --> 00:10:23,867 Speaker 4: that's hopefully that that drives them even more to when 195 00:10:23,867 --> 00:10:25,427 Speaker 4: they come together and put the you know, this is 196 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:27,427 Speaker 4: the last age group team for them, and the next 197 00:10:27,587 --> 00:10:29,387 Speaker 4: national team for them is going to be the Turbacks. 198 00:10:29,427 --> 00:10:32,267 Speaker 4: But when they come together to that environment, you know, 199 00:10:32,347 --> 00:10:36,827 Speaker 4: they're just you know, all guns blazing and steamrolling over 200 00:10:36,907 --> 00:10:40,147 Speaker 4: top of because that's what they expect. And that's I 201 00:10:40,187 --> 00:10:42,547 Speaker 4: think the beauty about this is these guys are seeing 202 00:10:42,987 --> 00:10:45,107 Speaker 4: success now and hopefully this is just going to drive 203 00:10:45,147 --> 00:10:45,667 Speaker 4: it even more. 204 00:10:45,867 --> 00:10:48,707 Speaker 2: I asked coach Matt Lacy this on the show yesterday. 205 00:10:49,027 --> 00:10:51,907 Speaker 2: Hayden Jones, son of Phil, of course you reckon he 206 00:10:51,947 --> 00:10:53,267 Speaker 2: could be even better than old men. 207 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:58,507 Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's a day I played with Phil 208 00:10:58,707 --> 00:11:00,747 Speaker 4: and he's a world class shoot that. Look, I think 209 00:11:00,787 --> 00:11:03,227 Speaker 4: they're different, but look that you can put them into 210 00:11:03,267 --> 00:11:06,227 Speaker 4: the same mix as far as like their contribution to 211 00:11:06,227 --> 00:11:09,427 Speaker 4: the teams. And you know, Hayden's are very you know, 212 00:11:09,947 --> 00:11:13,827 Speaker 4: he's got some similarities there and I think, you know, 213 00:11:14,027 --> 00:11:16,467 Speaker 4: I don't want to do that to feel or to Hayden, 214 00:11:16,547 --> 00:11:19,347 Speaker 4: but look, let them be the best versions of themselves. 215 00:11:19,347 --> 00:11:21,747 Speaker 4: But you're talking about two very very good basketball players 216 00:11:21,787 --> 00:11:22,827 Speaker 4: for sure, And just to. 217 00:11:22,747 --> 00:11:25,627 Speaker 2: Finish job, Slovenia, how do you write our chances against 218 00:11:25,627 --> 00:11:28,267 Speaker 2: them and the possibility of a third place for this year. 219 00:11:29,707 --> 00:11:31,947 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, that's one team I don't know so much about. 220 00:11:32,027 --> 00:11:35,147 Speaker 4: I remember seeing them play one game during the tournament. 221 00:11:35,147 --> 00:11:37,827 Speaker 4: I can't remember because I've been watching so many games. 222 00:11:37,827 --> 00:11:42,467 Speaker 4: And look, I do feel and it's the US was 223 00:11:42,467 --> 00:11:45,907 Speaker 4: a tricky team because they just they're just a different 224 00:11:45,987 --> 00:11:49,667 Speaker 4: type of athlete and it's hard to prepare for. But 225 00:11:49,707 --> 00:11:51,307 Speaker 4: the way that we've played against a lot of the 226 00:11:51,467 --> 00:11:54,707 Speaker 4: other international teams, Yeah, I really like our chances and 227 00:11:54,747 --> 00:11:59,467 Speaker 4: I think they'll be feeling very confident. Look, the one 228 00:11:59,507 --> 00:12:01,187 Speaker 4: thing is, you know, if we go back to two 229 00:12:01,227 --> 00:12:03,307 Speaker 4: thousand and two, when we lost our semi final, we 230 00:12:03,587 --> 00:12:06,987 Speaker 4: walked into that bronze medal match not mentally ready. We 231 00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:11,747 Speaker 4: were still sort of down and low on I guess 232 00:12:12,187 --> 00:12:16,947 Speaker 4: the result from the night before. This team here right 233 00:12:16,987 --> 00:12:18,987 Speaker 4: now has a very special moment in front of them 234 00:12:19,147 --> 00:12:21,507 Speaker 4: and to be able to take a medal from a 235 00:12:21,547 --> 00:12:25,027 Speaker 4: World Cup. So I'm sure the coaching staff, Matt Lacy, 236 00:12:25,067 --> 00:12:27,627 Speaker 4: will have the boys fizzing for this one and truly 237 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:29,987 Speaker 4: believing that they can get the job done. And yeah, 238 00:12:30,027 --> 00:12:33,547 Speaker 4: but from the backseat here looking, yeah, definitely, I like 239 00:12:33,627 --> 00:12:36,307 Speaker 4: our chances and yeah, I think this time tomorrow we 240 00:12:36,307 --> 00:12:40,027 Speaker 4: could be talking about the best moment of the g 241 00:12:40,147 --> 00:12:40,747 Speaker 4: on basketball. 242 00:12:41,067 --> 00:12:43,107 Speaker 2: Very exciting times for the game here, jud thanks so 243 00:12:43,187 --> 00:12:44,787 Speaker 2: much for your time, mate, Really enjoyed chatting. 244 00:12:45,107 --> 00:12:46,867 Speaker 4: Cheers, Jason, thank you, No, thank you. 245 00:12:46,947 --> 00:12:49,347 Speaker 2: Jude Judd Fable, then coach of the Tall Blacks. So 246 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:53,507 Speaker 2: the New Zealand under nineteen side went down one hundred 247 00:12:53,547 --> 00:12:56,627 Speaker 2: and twenty to sixty four to the United States. So look, 248 00:12:56,667 --> 00:12:59,507 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any disgrace in losing to the 249 00:12:59,587 --> 00:13:02,867 Speaker 2: United States in a game of basketball, regardless of the gender, 250 00:13:02,987 --> 00:13:05,947 Speaker 2: the age, or the level. It feeds them into the 251 00:13:05,987 --> 00:13:09,107 Speaker 2: third and fourth place match against Slovenia and our Slovenia 252 00:13:09,147 --> 00:13:12,507 Speaker 2: went down to Germany in the other semi final eighty 253 00:13:12,627 --> 00:13:15,067 Speaker 2: four seventy two. And running a bit of an eye 254 00:13:15,107 --> 00:13:18,267 Speaker 2: over Slovenia's scores at this tournament, it's not like they've 255 00:13:18,307 --> 00:13:21,867 Speaker 2: really set the world on fire. I think New Zealand 256 00:13:21,907 --> 00:13:25,347 Speaker 2: are a chance, an absolute chance here to achieve the 257 00:13:25,387 --> 00:13:29,547 Speaker 2: first ever podium finish by a New Zealand basketball team 258 00:13:29,627 --> 00:13:34,147 Speaker 2: at a Feber event, male or female. Three o'clock tomorrow morning, 259 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:37,187 Speaker 2: that's not very civilized. Time to get ups it, although 260 00:13:37,227 --> 00:13:39,187 Speaker 2: I guess we might be up and about watching the 261 00:13:41,067 --> 00:13:43,187 Speaker 2: Formula One Grand Prix at around about the same time, 262 00:13:43,387 --> 00:13:44,867 Speaker 2: so I guess if you're going to be up, you 263 00:13:44,947 --> 00:13:46,587 Speaker 2: might as well have a look at a bit of sport. 264 00:13:47,267 --> 00:13:49,827 Speaker 2: So three o'clock tomorrow morning is tip off between New 265 00:13:49,907 --> 00:13:52,867 Speaker 2: Zealand and Slovenia in the third and fourth place playoff 266 00:13:53,027 --> 00:13:55,667 Speaker 2: at the Feber Under nineteen World Cup. 267 00:13:56,507 --> 00:13:59,707 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 268 00:13:59,787 --> 00:14:03,107 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 269 00:14:03,147 --> 00:14:04,747 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.