1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: Well. 2 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 2: Inevitably, the Assies have now picked up on the slur 3 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: from Chris Luxen where he said when talking to OSSI's 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: it pays to be incredibly simple. And you know, good 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: thing is they seem to be taking it largely in 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: the spirit that it's intended, which is just a bit 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: of humor. And it also means Luxeon's play has worked, 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: which is that by having a crack at the Assis, 9 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: what he was doing was distracting us from the actual issue, 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: which is Paul Goldsmith taking Marty words out of the 11 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: Matitki invitation. And as I say, it's largely worked. But look, 12 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: let's get to the heart of this actual issue, right. 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: This actually was a dumb thing for Paul Goldsmith to do. 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I guess why he might have done it. 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: I get he might want an invitation from him to 16 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: be authentic to him. And if he doesn't make a 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: habit of going around using Mary words in a tokenistic 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: fashion to show off his inclusivity credentials, then sure he 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: might want to take Terrell out of the invitation and 20 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: replace it with English. And that's fair enough. But Paul 21 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Goldsmith is not an individual. He's a government minister and 22 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: he's going to have to start being a little smarter 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: and more strategic about this, because this government doesn't need 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: a petty issue like this on race relations to deal with, 25 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: because it's got enough going on as it is. A 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: lot of what the government is doing on race relations 27 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: is worthy and does need to be done. Repealing the 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: Maori wards, tidying up the Treaty principles, halting the co governance, 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: putting an end to certain ethnicities getting priority surgery and 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: this stuff they can defend really easily on democratic and 31 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: equal rights grounds, right, But when Paul Goldsmith does something 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: like taking Marty words out of an invitation, although it 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: may be true to his way of speaking, what he 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: does is he makes this democratic and equal rights reset 35 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: for some people just look like an anti Maori thing. Now, 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: to be fair to him, he's not the only minister 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: who's been caught fighting petty battles over language like this. 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: He is just the latest minister to be busted doing it. 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: But it would pay for these guys next time they 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: want to do something like take Marty words out of 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: a document, to really think about whether that, if leaked, 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: is something that they want to add to the government's 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: race relations agenda, because there is a very fine line 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: between appearing to be four equal rights and appearing to 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: be just anti everything Mardi and frankly, there are much 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: more important things going on in this country right now. 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: An energy crisis, a possible recession, a massive problem in health, 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: just to give you a few. But what are we 49 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: talking about? What are we going to remember from this week? 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith's invitation. 51 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.