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Speaker 1: because we're coming in hot off after Origin Game one
Speaker 1: from Sydney's a Course Stadium where New South Wales got
Speaker 1: absolutely murdered by Queensland. But just to let you know that,
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Speaker 1: joined today by our producer and rugby league savant, Adam Boumanner.
Speaker 2: How's it going man? How are you going this morning?
Speaker 2: It was was a bit of a late one for
Speaker 2: both of us last night.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Backing up Off after you know it never starts on
Speaker 1: time Origin, there's always a lot of build up. I
Speaker 1: actually missed some of it because I was sitting task
Speaker 1: master this week, so I missed the start. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if gus guild did his infield in ground
Speaker 1: in gold poetry like he normally does.
Speaker 2: No, there was none of that. It just kind of
Speaker 2: definitely lacked a little bit at the start. It was
Speaker 2: really weird watching. Obviously, we get here about you know,
Speaker 2: like an hourish beforehand, just to make sure everything works,
Speaker 2: and I was sitting here watching the build up. There
Speaker 2: was bugger all people in the stadium and it was
Speaker 2: a really weird thing because most game ones of Origin
Speaker 2: absolutely heaving and it been a Wednesday night, had been
Speaker 2: a first head out as well. It was just it
Speaker 2: was just a little bit odd to start the game
Speaker 2: on both points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was a sellout and it did
Speaker 1: look good once the game was going.
Speaker 3: But I have.
Speaker 1: Heard that because of the one sided nature of Origin
Speaker 1: over the last well fifteen years, apparently numbers viewing numbers
Speaker 1: are dropping a little bit. So it might actually pay
Speaker 1: for New South Wales to put a decent side on
Speaker 1: the park because they didn't last night. They got absolutely
Speaker 1: destroyed thirty eight points to ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it it wasn't very favorable. Another thing that
Speaker 2: New South Wales could do is have a coach that
Speaker 2: you had to coach and possibly run some plays you know,
Speaker 2: I know, the two you and I were talking about
Speaker 2: on the commentary. It was just a little bit weird,
Speaker 2: you know, even just how different. I guess it's not
Speaker 2: really I'm on your side of the fence. I'm a
Speaker 2: Queen's lander as well, yes, but it was a very
Speaker 2: odd scene how they just had nothing going on. And
Speaker 2: then when you compare to the other side, you know,
Speaker 2: it's quite easy to forget too that on their sideline
Speaker 2: as Jonathan Thurston, which I reckon would just be pulling
Speaker 2: strings from there. But they just New South Wales just
Speaker 2: kind of looked like they were missing something or they
Speaker 2: just didn't know what each other were doing, or it
Speaker 2: just wasn't It wasn't smooth or cohesive at all.
Speaker 3: Was it? No into?
Speaker 1: I mean to quote ourselves from the commentary last night,
Speaker 1: it did look like the Warriors from about four years ago,
Speaker 1: where on the fifth tackle they clearly had no plays
Speaker 1: and it was just a bit of improvisational football. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerome Leui, that's kind of where he lives best in
Speaker 1: some ways, and you know, he created some chances and
Speaker 1: well created one of the only two tries in New
Speaker 1: South Wales were able to get over the line. But
Speaker 1: it looked very clunky, It looked very sloppy, It looked
Speaker 1: very messy, and it was ineffective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, massively. And I think it was quite hard as well.
Speaker 2: It must have been really hard actually for Nico Hines.
Speaker 2: He finally gets a chance, he's finally stepping up, and
Speaker 2: just nothing like, you know, the forward pack wasn't really
Speaker 2: rolling forward. You could just see after what you know,
Speaker 2: quite early on. Obviously they go one down, and we'll
Speaker 2: get to that in a moment, but they just looked
Speaker 2: a little bit like, you know, a lot was taken
Speaker 2: out of them, and then they weren't getting forward ball,
Speaker 2: and then you just have these two halves laughing about
Speaker 2: and then when you look at their tries, they were
Speaker 2: just seemed a little bit lucky and flukey. It was
Speaker 2: just it was just odd. I reckon odd is kind
Speaker 2: of like a good way to put their performance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about that going one down. Reese
Speaker 1: Walsh was or he was murdered. He was murdered, I think,
Speaker 1: is what's on the thing they've prepared for me here, Adam.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: High shot by Joseph Sali and I don't think there
Speaker 1: was any mounts in it. But it was terrible technique.
Speaker 1: You just can't in the modern game not look where
Speaker 1: you're tackling. You can't have your head down and lead
Speaker 1: with your shoulder. His head rocketed back and amazingly passes Hia,
Speaker 1: but on the field it was a Category one head
Speaker 1: knock and so wasn't allowed back in the game and
Speaker 1: Joseph Suli was us to leave.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Never, that's confusing. You know, there's rugby is more confusing
Speaker 2: than the league at the best of times. But the
Speaker 2: that you can, you know, you can Pastorgia and then
Speaker 2: still fail the category one, which kind of makes sense
Speaker 2: because early on in the game, when he was getting
Speaker 2: walked off the field, israel Man tapped him on the
Speaker 2: shoulder and the cameras were very fixed on him, and
Speaker 2: he looked up and he had no idea who his
Speaker 2: teammate was. He looked so confused. So he was knocked
Speaker 2: into a whole other world. But yeah, I've seen a
Speaker 2: few stories today and I think they're a bit off
Speaker 2: and saying that it was you know that they were
Speaker 2: kind of out to try and get him, But I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone's out to do that to someone, especially
Speaker 2: a young professional sports player. And it is just really unfortunate,
Speaker 2: Like we've watched the clip this morning in the office
Speaker 2: far too many times, and his feet to slip out
Speaker 2: underneath them and he was just sitting there, just ready
Speaker 2: to be ripped in a half right, like there's nothing
Speaker 2: else about it. But it's not the best way to
Speaker 2: start seven minutes into a game, is that?
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you bleed blue, if you've got
Speaker 1: you know, the go of. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: an old Blues player of Laurie Day in your soul,
Speaker 1: then you will say that it did ruin the game. However,
Speaker 1: I would like a counterpoint there in that New South
Speaker 1: Wales did lift people like Leah Martin Payne. Heass they
Speaker 1: really reved their side up either side of the break.
Speaker 1: It looked like they were making a comeback. They did
Speaker 1: make a small comeback. Was twenty ten at one point
Speaker 1: and it looked all Blues either side of the break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a big surprise to myself even just watching
Speaker 2: one of their talentsmen. It seemed like in that as
Speaker 2: well was Spencer Lingu. Seemed like a bit of an
Speaker 2: odd choice, considering he does some bad things at the
Speaker 2: stay of the air. We don't have to rehash that,
Speaker 2: but he seemed like a bit of a bolter. But
Speaker 2: he was kind of the difference for the Blues last night.
Speaker 2: He was he played a bit more of the enforcer
Speaker 2: role and just really got a monks and just was
Speaker 2: there trying to ruffle feathers. But you know, apart from him,
Speaker 2: wasn't too much house going on. And a massive second
Speaker 2: change that happened to that new South Wales side is
Speaker 2: they finally brought Isaiah yah on really really late into
Speaker 2: the game, and he is one of the leaders in
Speaker 2: the top side in the league. And it just seemed
Speaker 2: odd because even at the same time the third person
Speaker 2: after twenty minutes he took off as captain and I
Speaker 2: think Jake Darowitch only played like less than thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of feeling now that I'm actually saying
Speaker 2: this out loud, and now that I finally got to
Speaker 2: the end of my thought, Madge had a shaka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matche did have a shaka For those not in
Speaker 1: the know, Man'ge McGuire of course, the new new South
Speaker 1: Wales coach. They've gone through a few coaches in the
Speaker 1: last few years. Freddy Fittler was let go. I think
Speaker 1: one of his biggest weaknesses was the selection and manage.
Speaker 1: McGuire made wholesale changes at five debutantes last night. It
Speaker 1: didn't help. I don't think it was a well selected team.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Joseph Soley should have been in there
Speaker 1: to start with, and then see in retrospect definitely shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been in there. And you know the people like
Speaker 1: Latrell Mitchell left out yep, okay, so he said patchy
Speaker 1: form this year. But asd made the point last night,
Speaker 1: who would you rather tackle? I know who I'd rather tackle?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And it was kind of odd as well, right because
Speaker 2: he came out after he was injured, and he came
Speaker 2: out for injury and he kind of put himself out
Speaker 2: of contention. But surely if you get that phone call
Speaker 2: in and say hey mate, you know things aren't going
Speaker 2: so great, we need you start in that fallback, you've
Speaker 2: got to pick up that call a Surely he just
Speaker 2: walked straight back in.
Speaker 1: Surely you just throw everything at a dominant Queensland side.
Speaker 1: First time I've ever seen them in my life. Favorites ever,
Speaker 1: it's been a bit of a bonus contention for New
Speaker 1: South Wales fans over the years that they always are
Speaker 1: favorites in Queensland, always the underdogs. That's the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen them as favorites. I just think as
Speaker 1: a coach, you would pick your most attacking side, you
Speaker 1: would pick a side that's going to throw everything at them,
Speaker 1: particularly in Game one.
Speaker 3: But Manage maguire, a.
Speaker 1: Defensive coach, just tried to grind them into the ground,
Speaker 1: thinking it was going to be a you know, eight
Speaker 1: points to six kind of scoreline, and it didn't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a lot of the money was in
Speaker 2: the odd of any team to win by one to twelve.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of multis floating around, and even
Speaker 2: the popular setup in there now with the tab as well.
Speaker 2: But it seemed a bit odd, especially a part that
Speaker 2: made me smile on the game was they cut to
Speaker 2: him in the box and I have never seen a
Speaker 2: swittier man and a more stressed out man then managed there.
Speaker 2: And it's really unfortunate because I read this week as
Speaker 2: well that they had the mental skills coach skills coach
Speaker 2: Gilbert and Oke got brought into their camp as well
Speaker 2: from the All Blacks and he was there to try
Speaker 2: and you know, ge them up and sort out the
Speaker 2: team and that as well. So it's not like they're
Speaker 2: not doing things to try and better themselves, especially you know,
Speaker 2: getting someone so specific in there as well. But you know,
Speaker 2: I guess we've spent all this time talking about how
Speaker 2: average they were. Queensland weren't bad, Queensland weren't bad.
Speaker 3: All Queen's there weren't bad.
Speaker 1: And you know, just even on paper they just they
Speaker 1: said stairs stars all across it, and and not only
Speaker 1: experienced stars like Daddy Cherry Evans thirty five years of age,
Speaker 1: played it out of a game, but also young stars
Speaker 1: Hamiso tab you I feedo. Three tries just blew that
Speaker 1: first half open and a third one in the second
Speaker 1: half after the scoreline had kind of blown out. But
Speaker 1: what an exciting player and could be one of the greats.
Speaker 3: Of our game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, massively. I saw a good stat this morning that
Speaker 2: daily Cherry Evans was the oldest player in Origin to
Speaker 2: get an intercept that led to a try. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's not a bad stat. But he the try
Speaker 2: that he set up for Coreots.
Speaker 3: No oats, no Xavier Navy coats, coats.
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, there was phenomenal. He's gone through the line
Speaker 2: with that intercept and he had the peace of mind
Speaker 2: just to look over his shoulder. And I think you
Speaker 2: might have even said it on the comment I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just quitting you and die at this point. But
Speaker 2: it was one of the most beautiful kicks. They just
Speaker 2: stayed in goal and he's at full tilt in between
Speaker 2: two players. It was just a moment in there as well,
Speaker 2: just we you really really do see experience wins games
Speaker 2: and just that calm, cool, collective head which was, you know,
Speaker 2: the opposite on the other side and DC he looked
Speaker 2: good yesterday, A yeah he did.
Speaker 1: So what happens now? What does Madge do going into
Speaker 1: game two? I think I know what I would do
Speaker 1: if I was him, and I'd bring in Littrell Mitchell,
Speaker 1: I'd bring in some bolts on the edge of the squad.
Speaker 1: Scott Drinkwater I would bring in as well. And because
Speaker 1: I don't think so he's going to be available.
Speaker 2: No, no, I feel like he's a few weeks off right.
Speaker 1: I would think so, So there's a couple of options
Speaker 1: for you, and I would say go all out.
Speaker 3: That was their home game.
Speaker 1: They got trounced at home thirty eight ten and now
Speaker 1: they've got to go to Melbourne and then sun Corp.
Speaker 2: I think he's right now just praying to the Rugby
Speaker 2: League gods just just to do anything, anything at all,
Speaker 2: to get Nathan Cleary healthy. If I think he would believe,
Speaker 2: and I think New South Wales would believe as well,
Speaker 2: if they could just get him in there as well,
Speaker 2: especially if they had that spine you know, I you know,
Speaker 2: you said drink water. But even if they had Edward's back,
Speaker 2: they had Yow in there as well. Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: just have him and Leui in the middle. He was
Speaker 2: very cagey. He gave the most NRL answer to winning
Speaker 2: you back mate, how are you going? And he he
Speaker 2: apologized before he started speaking. He said, I apologize, but
Speaker 2: I'm just taking things day by day. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get right. But I think that
Speaker 2: is their chance. If they can get him back, they
Speaker 2: can get him fit. That guy's far too good just
Speaker 2: to watch it go by, right, and but I just
Speaker 2: I think it could be too soon for him. And
Speaker 2: I could imagine the Panthers aren't too keen on seeing
Speaker 2: that hamstring go second third time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, taking it day by day, rugby league
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Speaker 1: Now this weekend, of course, on Saturday, it's the big game.
Speaker 1: It's seven point thirty on Skysport nine. We will be
Speaker 1: covering it. It's the Warriors versus the Cowboys from right
Speaker 1: here in Auckland.
Speaker 3: Isn't it home game?
Speaker 2: It is away it's away.
Speaker 1: Okay, don't listen to me. That is a way in Townsville.
Speaker 1: I would imagine. Now the Cowboys, we remarked about it
Speaker 1: last night during Origin it is they are a team
Speaker 1: with possibly more Origin players in it than any other team.
Speaker 1: They have done the good thing and that they have
Speaker 1: not listed all their Origin players to back up, because
Speaker 1: other teams have. I looked at the Broncos team sheet.
Speaker 1: They had Selwyn Cobbo. I mean, they had Rece Walsh
Speaker 1: in there, who's definitely not going to be playing, but
Speaker 1: obviously that was named before he got his head taken off.
Speaker 1: You look at this Cowboys side. It's not at full strength,
Speaker 1: but it's not terrible.
Speaker 2: No, not at all because I think, you know, even
Speaker 2: the second row, the fact that you don't have N
Speaker 2: nine and you have Luky and who's a pretty solid
Speaker 2: second role. You still got drink Water as well. I
Speaker 2: guess the person that they probably would have loved as well,
Speaker 2: would have just the two of them really just heaving
Speaker 2: homes and even dead, and he did. It wasn't terrible
Speaker 2: last night. Solid yeah, yeah, And I think I think
Speaker 2: that's what the Cowboys are. You know that they are
Speaker 2: pretty deep in the table.
Speaker 3: So we I think we're having very similar seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there definitely was quite a bit of expectation
Speaker 2: out of them from the last couple of years, right,
Speaker 2: they did make a big U turn and then you know,
Speaker 2: we all wrote the hype together and then and now
Speaker 2: here we are. But no, I think you're right because
Speaker 2: I even saw the like pain Hess had been named,
Speaker 2: and I'd send in a few groups everyone confused, being
Speaker 2: like everyone's towns everyone all week. Don't pick origin stars
Speaker 2: for your fantasy teams. They're never going to play. But
Speaker 2: there is just a few of the blockbuster dudes that
Speaker 2: are going to back up. You know, I could even
Speaker 2: imagine the like some off topicy of like Angus Crichton
Speaker 2: had an okay game last night, and I'm sure he'd
Speaker 2: want to be out there this week to really.
Speaker 3: He's a rooster though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there I've got the boat there on the by.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've we've both had a bit of a
Speaker 2: whoopsie in the seat in this little line here. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we get to the Warriors though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Warrior So, I mean what they've named and
Speaker 1: whether this is the team that takes the park is
Speaker 1: another issue. But it looks pretty full strength to me.
Speaker 1: Charms back at full back, Rocco Berry back in the
Speaker 1: centers with Adam Pombe, Chanell, Harris Tavida. I mean okay,
Speaker 1: I when I say full full strength, Still no Roger,
Speaker 1: Still no Roger, and still no Shawnee j. But Shanell,
Speaker 1: Harris Tavita and Tomarti Martin in the halves. Wade Egan
Speaker 1: is back, Jackson Ford is back, Marta near Cord starts.
Speaker 1: Mitch Barnette did not make the bench for the Origin side,
Speaker 1: so he is back and starting in the back row.
Speaker 1: And Tahu the Mighty Torta back in the thirteen Jersey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kate well as well. I saw a funny
Speaker 2: bit him been interviewed this week and he was being questioning.
Speaker 2: He say, hey, you know, I thought you were fit.
Speaker 2: I thought you were good to go. And he was
Speaker 2: being questioned as because he's been walking around camp all
Speaker 2: week with his Queensland head on, telling everyone on the camp,
Speaker 2: especially we be how every key we is a Queenslander.
Speaker 2: That that could have cemented his on the bench. That is,
Speaker 2: there's some good in house banter there from the Warriors.
Speaker 1: It really was yet really annoyed, We're blessed. So there
Speaker 1: the interchange bench, Dylan wal could jest among us are
Speaker 1: the ball brothers, Tom Ali and yeah Kirk Kate on
Speaker 1: the bench.
Speaker 3: There it is.
Speaker 1: It is a good looking warrior's side, and these are
Speaker 1: points that we need to take against a weakened Cowboys team.
Speaker 2: Massively, and I it is. I think they've surprised so
Speaker 2: many people the last couple of weeks where everyone was
Speaker 2: shitting the bed considering we just don't have our stars
Speaker 2: out there, like I think it's even a luxury at
Speaker 2: the moment. You read this week that Esjay wasn't quite fit,
Speaker 2: but that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 3: You know, I think won of the last two weeks
Speaker 3: without him, and we've.
Speaker 2: Won the last couple of weeks without some of our
Speaker 2: biggest signings last two weeks ago before the buye and
Speaker 2: not having AFB. You know that that's the call from
Speaker 2: the coach. The team got up for it. So I
Speaker 2: wonder if I hope, I guess so does everyone else
Speaker 2: that those two weeks of just absolutely slogging it out,
Speaker 2: getting a bit more morale back in that team and
Speaker 2: just kind of you know, just kind of get get
Speaker 2: just that feeling of winning a game because it felt
Speaker 2: like it was just hard to come by, even at
Speaker 2: the start of the year. You know, I was out
Speaker 2: there at Mount Smart with you a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and we won a couple, we lost a couple, but
Speaker 2: you were never overly confident. And then these last two
Speaker 2: games that we've won, there's just been something different about it.
Speaker 2: And I know they drinking the special water for that,
Speaker 2: you know, the MJ took on.
Speaker 1: I think it's just we've talked about this, so I
Speaker 1: felt like we've talked about this a lot of times
Speaker 1: on this podcast over the years. But when Shawn Johnson
Speaker 1: is on on the park.
Speaker 3: And he's firing, they're a good side.
Speaker 1: And when he's on the park and he's not firing,
Speaker 1: then they are very reliant around around that one player,
Speaker 1: and when he's not there, they are more collaborative. They
Speaker 1: are more evenly spread across the park. The opposition don't
Speaker 1: just look to one player to see what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happened in the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. They've lifted and it's not as predictable the attack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and that's true, and I wonder as well,
Speaker 2: because competition and teams as well, especially in positions, that's
Speaker 2: the thing that kind of like breeds a lot of
Speaker 2: success as well. And it's been crazy because the last
Speaker 2: couple weeks, like dam Pompey has looked bloody solid out
Speaker 2: there at center, you know, and that just brings on
Speaker 2: that contest as well with Artes when he comes back.
Speaker 2: Rock o'berry coming back after a few weeks out with
Speaker 2: a broken hand, which I believed he broke it over
Speaker 2: in Australia and had to stay over there to get
Speaker 2: it repaired, so he's had a couple of weeks to
Speaker 2: try and get that back in our man. That debut
Speaker 2: last week looked really odd two weeks ago. I'm just
Speaker 2: it's more that I feel like I wish that we
Speaker 2: get to watch the Warriors week but that's not the case.
Speaker 2: But you know, like it's it's the sense of competition
Speaker 2: that we haven't had for a while and it's really
Speaker 2: really helping the side out.
Speaker 3: Ah. No, Jacob Laban, is he injured? No?
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's just I know that we be
Speaker 2: this year as well. If you'd noticed that he hides
Speaker 2: a lot of junior players, they don't have to face
Speaker 2: a lot of the limelight just just to kind of
Speaker 2: take the heat of them. So I wonder if it's that,
Speaker 2: you know, the young guys they played a couple of games,
Speaker 2: just give them a little spell out, you know, let
Speaker 2: the old heads kind of get back in there and grind,
Speaker 2: because and I wonder if he's just trying to keep
Speaker 2: them hungry because he knows he's going to need them
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. You know, you're going to
Speaker 2: have the likes of so who needing a little spell
Speaker 2: And you know someone's definitely going to have an Hia
Speaker 2: in that as well. But you know it's and I
Speaker 2: saw that as Zion my uuh's back as well, and
Speaker 2: he is an absolute animal. So we're not bad in
Speaker 2: our and our youth coming through, right. And the ranks
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do look good. The one slight conceit I
Speaker 1: have is there's not really a specialist hooker on the
Speaker 1: bench for when Wade Egan inevitably has to leave the park.
Speaker 1: I guess Jams will fill that role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I guess you're right. And it is
Speaker 2: a bit of a worry, right because it's literally every game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and It's crazy because you think about how many tackles
Speaker 2: in the career that someone like Cam Smith made. He
Speaker 2: would make fifty plus a game kind of thing. And
Speaker 2: he was quite a slight guy as well, Right, he's
Speaker 2: quite a rangy range.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess a little probably a little gerthier
Speaker 1: than Wade Egan, waged Wade Egan, probably a little skinny,
Speaker 1: way a little less than Cam Smith, I would think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just he just gets his head yeah right on
Speaker 2: people's hips a hell of a lot. Ad. It's really
Speaker 2: rough to see because there's been a few of this.
Speaker 2: There's been like maybe two or three already this year
Speaker 2: that's had him out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, no shade on Wagan.
Speaker 1: We love Wagan and when he's playing his best, he
Speaker 1: can really blow a game apart. He's kind of been
Speaker 1: one of the differences in the turnaround of this Warrior's side.
Speaker 1: It's not a good ahead of ourselves though it is
Speaker 1: a good looking side. I like seeing Shanell Harris Tavita
Speaker 1: back in the halves, back in a Warriors jumper back starting,
Speaker 1: and he adds a little bit of starch in defense
Speaker 1: as well. Seven point thirty on Sky Sport nine I
Speaker 1: believe it's Die Henwood and somebody else.
Speaker 2: The pants Man.
Speaker 3: It's the Pantsman.
Speaker 2: The Pantsman gets the call up. He was sidelined for
Speaker 2: the Oranging game last night, and he's gonna full debut
Speaker 2: this season. I love it and I'm sure he'll be
Speaker 2: absolutely first. And you we don't even have to talk
Speaker 2: about fis Dialby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, go the Wars and we're just going to
Speaker 1: have another quick ad here and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk a little bit of super Coach. We welcome back
Speaker 1: to Mad Monday out on a Thursday. Because of Origin
Speaker 1: last night, We're just gonna have a little chat about
Speaker 1: super Coach slash Fantasy. If you're not a massive rugby
Speaker 1: league like Adam and me and dian Keesyam and I
Speaker 1: and all the rest of them, then you can probably
Speaker 1: switch off now. Now Adam trying to take us through
Speaker 1: who you believe the big buys and the big holds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think buyers this week. There is a
Speaker 2: lot going on, especially because of Origin, but there is
Speaker 2: a few safer options. One of the big buys this
Speaker 2: week definitely would be Jerome Hughes, just because the storm.
Speaker 2: I think after last week, it's not too bad for
Speaker 2: them moving forward for by rounds.
Speaker 1: I managed to hold him last week while he was
Speaker 1: on the buy and still got the win against Maniah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't wait to talk to him about
Speaker 2: that when he returns next week. He would be loving that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think Jerome Hughes as a bye.
Speaker 2: I also think as well, on the back of watching
Speaker 2: that game last night, I think Latrell Metchell huge bye.
Speaker 2: I think you know they finally sorted out the coaching
Speaker 2: situation at the Bunnies. I just think it's time that
Speaker 2: I could just see him looking at him being like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to tone up and I'm
Speaker 2: just going to go berserk. So I think Latreal's one
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: I will be buying him for the third time this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bold, that's bold. Is there any Is there
Speaker 2: a cutoff for the amount of times you would player?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Drop and by its the only way I could
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Last week to get thirteen players on the park, I
Speaker 1: had to sell him because he had heard the buye
Speaker 1: last week. So I actually bought in Jordan Rappana, who
Speaker 1: did fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, no that makes sense. And
Speaker 2: then so another one here, I've got is the main
Speaker 2: one I think you should buy if you don't and
Speaker 2: you can afford it, is to get for Feeder from
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast Titans. There is a chance he gets
Speaker 2: picked up for origin, but I could just imagine he
Speaker 2: looks like a guy that would have a chip on
Speaker 2: his shoulder.
Speaker 1: In general, are all your boys just based on origin revenge?
Speaker 1: Like non selection revenge?
Speaker 2: I've realized on the back of this, Yes, but not intentionally.
Speaker 2: And not intentionally I have for Feeder because I brought
Speaker 2: him a couple of weeks and he's just a fun
Speaker 2: player to watch because he's a big human that just
Speaker 2: likes to bowl through people. And there's not much house
Speaker 2: in that Gold Coast Titans team with Tino out, to
Speaker 2: be honest. Apart from him, the only other one would
Speaker 2: be Cataut from the Storm as well. He has been
Speaker 2: snagging quite a few tries at the moment. I think
Speaker 2: he's quite expensive now as well. But those would be
Speaker 2: the main buys. I would believe that.
Speaker 1: My little one is Jacob Preston from the Bulldogs in
Speaker 1: the back row there. He turned up last week and
Speaker 1: it's pretty unusual that a back row will turn up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I saw he was playing bloody good at
Speaker 2: the tab as well. He's playing like thirteen or forteen
Speaker 2: bucks just any time try scorer.
Speaker 1: And by the way, as a steal Chanel Harris de
Speaker 1: Vitas across two hundred and forty much, that's pretty cheap.
Speaker 1: Somebody's a starting half this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's not a bad shout because I would
Speaker 2: imagine he would be right on the cusp. This must
Speaker 2: be his fourth game. Yeah, he'd only played a couple
Speaker 2: of games, so he could be right on the if
Speaker 2: he goes off this weekend as well. I earn the
Speaker 2: money in the bank and around this time of year,
Speaker 2: with a lot of origin, that is quite needed. So
Speaker 2: if we go into holds, I think a big hold
Speaker 2: which I had onto last week is Talangey from the Eels.
Speaker 2: So he was playing fullback, lost his position last week
Speaker 2: to starting fallback and due to an unlucky ACL injury
Speaker 2: in the centers, he's been called up into the centers.
Speaker 2: So he was a base basement kind of dwelling rookie
Speaker 2: and if you did manage to hold on to him,
Speaker 2: a great hold at this point, because you know it
Speaker 2: could be three points on off.
Speaker 3: Of their and sorry, which Telong.
Speaker 2: Are we talking about telling who plays for the Eels?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Blaze Blade Telling, Yes, No.
Speaker 1: I actually weirdly had him just in my kind of
Speaker 1: you know, you know the players that you pack at
Speaker 1: the start of the season so for no money so
Speaker 1: you can get the good players.
Speaker 2: Did you pick him up mainly because his name was Blaze?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so, Like because a lot of those players
Speaker 1: that you picked because they're the base salary, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just you don't know a lot of them, so I
Speaker 1: just pick it on name. But yeah, Blaze Tailang, he's
Speaker 1: a pretty cool name.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he did look at fallback as well, so
Speaker 2: it is pretty good. My other thing I've just realized
Speaker 2: I've gone straight back into origin is I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people are quite hasty to make big
Speaker 2: decisions and just kind of like clear your one out
Speaker 2: and all that as well. A big thing that people
Speaker 2: don't realize is that everyone's in the same boat. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put it out there. I think the majority of
Speaker 2: people aren't playing in their by rounds. They aren't looking
Speaker 2: at the teams. They're literally picking who they want to pack,
Speaker 2: so there may not be a need to clear house.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you know, surprisingly a lot of
Speaker 2: people be in exactly the same boat as you are.
Speaker 1: And just to reiterate something that Menia Stuart couldn't get
Speaker 1: his head around, it is just your best thirteen players.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if you say you can't put
Speaker 1: out a fullback. As long as you have thirteen players
Speaker 1: in your squad, including reserves that are scoring, then you
Speaker 1: will have the full compliment. So I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: have a fallback this week, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: I thought you were getting Backlatrol for the thing.
Speaker 3: I might get him back for the THEA and reflection and.
Speaker 2: Then and then if we get to the sales, I
Speaker 2: think the big sale this week I think me personally
Speaker 2: I had on to him would be Hines. After watching
Speaker 2: last night, he is already not named this weekend in
Speaker 2: the Shark Side, and I think that was just a
Speaker 2: bit of safety, considering he had a bit of trouble
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks with the calf, and it
Speaker 2: looked like he either had really bad cramps or he
Speaker 2: did his calf again at the end of the game
Speaker 2: last night. So I would say a big sale in
Speaker 2: general for many would be Hines. Is there anyone else
Speaker 2: that you're looking to really been out of your team
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: He's no.
Speaker 1: See, I've never been a Heines purchaser. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of his as a player, but he was just I
Speaker 1: think I didn't get him at the start of the year,
Speaker 1: and then he got too expensive, so I fought against
Speaker 1: I think everyone else in the in our little private
Speaker 1: league that we have with the Mad Monday team has
Speaker 1: him to resent me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're doing going great, guys, I'm going okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so maybe there's this some week in there. I have
Speaker 2: had him and Cleary. I had Cleary.
Speaker 3: I had Cleary though, to be fair, but I sold him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't sell him until he hurt himself the second time.
Speaker 3: You and I think that's where I toppled from first
Speaker 3: to fourth.
Speaker 2: We will make mistakes, right, It's just as long as
Speaker 2: we learn and we don't go back there a third time.
Speaker 1: I think so smug when you've held on to a
Speaker 1: play like that and he come back and then I
Speaker 1: think he did and he got like twenty five points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hurt himself in the first like fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: and to be honest, he looked great while he was
Speaker 2: on the pinch. Until that hamshury went bang. We could
Speaker 2: have been absolute geniuses, but unfortunately not the case. And
Speaker 2: every week we have a tab good hunch and this
Speaker 2: week our hunch, I am going to throw it out
Speaker 2: to you, Ben, let's go look for an anytime try scorer.
Speaker 2: Who are you feeling this week?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Mitch Barnett, starting back in the
Speaker 1: Warriors after not quite making the bench for Origin. He's
Speaker 1: going to be hungry, he's going to be pumped up,
Speaker 1: he's going to be full of adrenaline. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: they've been using him for that crash play instead of
Speaker 1: AFB lately, so he's my pick.
Speaker 2: Yes, that sounds good. So if we put one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars a bonus cash on there, he's paying four dollars ten,
Speaker 2: that'll get us back three hundred and ten dollars in
Speaker 2: the kiddy. So it's pretty good eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's eating. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite short odds for a front row, but anyway,
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 2: We'll take the omen punt and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: Those are all your tips and that is the end
Speaker 1: of Mad Monday for another week. Thanks for sticking with us.
Speaker 1: Throughout the week, probably wondering whether the hell we were
Speaker 1: on Monday. Of course, no Warriors game last weekend as well,
Speaker 1: so there wasn't much to talk about.
Speaker 3: We will be back on Monday like normal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that makes sense. You know, we'll
Speaker 2: have a few people back next week. I'm sure sure
Speaker 2: the boys will be furzed after a good game this weekend,
Speaker 2: and we will see you back on Monday.
Speaker 3: Take care out there, and I go the Wars