1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Now, don't you hate it when the kids fight. There's 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: a quiet war happening right now between David Seymour and 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Winston Peters, the coalition partners. It's kicked up a little lately, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: both boys playing games as they try to win the 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: hearts of the public and then win votes, which will 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: be all important when we finally go back to the 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: polls in twenty twenty six. This, of course, is the 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: problem when you're a minor party. You need to make 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: noise to be noticed. You can get swamped so very 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: very easily. And the big noise for a while has 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: been David Seymour, who took conversations by the throat with 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: his treaty principles act love it or hate it, you're 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: all talking about it, which is all a politician wants. 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Last week I said, when I was doing the Drive show, 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: I did an editorial that said that Winston's been a 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: good boy while he's held the deputy prime minister job, 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: but that's coming to an end in a few months. 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: He does a swap seat with David Seymour. That will 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: free Winston's hand. You're going to hear a lot more 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: from him. And look at that he started this week. 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: That's why he's taken over the railways. He wants to 22 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: be seen as a savior and a solver. The Herald 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: editorial this morning calls the move a Peter's power play. 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Seymour and Peters have very different views of the railways. 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Winston blames past privatizations. David wants to 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: privatize forty nine percent of it. Winston, by the way, 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: also has a treaty principal strategy. Just like David. He's 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: looking to cancel the legislation that already exists that prescribes 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: how the treaty veigels its way into our legislation. It's 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: got a much better chance of success than Seymour's Act 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: and referendum, but so far it's flowed under the radar 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: since the election. That hacks Winston off. And it's coming 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: and he's going to be free to promote it. So 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: you're going to hear a lot more about that soon. 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: And you've got to remember the difference between Winston and David. 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Winston is an old school conservative and closer really to 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: those old fashioned socialists we used to know that cared 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: about the working class, but it didn't have much truck 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: with all that sort of liberal stuff. You know those guys. 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: David Seymour, though he's part of the New Conservatism and 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: believes in capitalism, markets and winner takes all, Winston doesn't 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: believe that they are not naturally compatible. So I think 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that they're starting to fight, even 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: if they are fighting in public. The next eighteen months 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: looks to be increasingly entertaining, and that is also a 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: good thing, because you know, what are we about here? 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: A contest of ideas. For more from Early Edition with 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, listen live to News Talks it be from 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: five am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.