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Speaker 2: Welcome for that and Mari Party inmplosion whether anyone really

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Speaker 2: cares we got the firearms rewrite out. Today the head

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Speaker 2: of the am Z talks profits, margins, capital requirements, Catherine

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Speaker 2: Field and France. Rod Liddle joins us out of the UK. Pasky,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day, seven past six Lux and it

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Speaker 2: appears is going to have a crack at what he

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Speaker 2: termed on this program yesterday an elevated discussion over assets.

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Speaker 2: Now I wish him well for that for a couple

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Speaker 2: of reasons. One, I'm all for better, more informed public debate,

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Speaker 2: and iiO this place needs to rock it in terms

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Speaker 2: of delivery on assets. The real story, of course, about

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Speaker 2: the discussion is not the discussion, but what started it.

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Speaker 2: And what started it was he and Renny at Treasury

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Speaker 2: in his report that essentially says we can't grow our

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Speaker 2: way out of the long term fiscal mess we're in.

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Speaker 2: We need to sell some stuff. This is as big

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Speaker 2: a red flag as you would ever want to see.

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Speaker 2: Read the government books last week. Despite it all taxes down,

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Speaker 2: we aren't running a surplus, still borrowing to keep the

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Speaker 2: lights on for goodness sake. Economic growth even when it

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Speaker 2: does arrive, won't fix that. That is scary. So the

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Speaker 2: elevated bit is the part where he tries to convince

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Speaker 2: you that we can take the money from an asset

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Speaker 2: and reuse it better, get a better return, grow a

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Speaker 2: business in different ways like Fonterra well with the Lactala sale.

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Speaker 2: Consumer brands aren't there thing they can better spend their billions,

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Speaker 2: they argue. In other ways, they only had farmers to convince,

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Speaker 2: though Luckson's got at least thirty five percent of voters

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Speaker 2: to convince, along with act who's probably already on board

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand first voters who may or may not be.

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Speaker 2: That is the elevated bit. The idea of best using

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Speaker 2: your money is a sound one, of course. Convincing people

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Speaker 2: that and how it's going to play out though, that's

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Speaker 2: a whole different political problem. And that's before you get

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Speaker 2: to the politically charged bit of what actually you're going

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Speaker 2: to sell TV and ZEN. I mean, no one would

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Speaker 2: really care, but then it's worth nothing anyway, What about

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Speaker 2: a power company? What about an airline? That's where you

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Speaker 2: get the xenophobia, the foreign takeover talk, also the bit

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Speaker 2: where you will it becomes really obvious really quickly. We

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Speaker 2: don't actually have a lot left to sell. So election

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Speaker 2: year twenty twenty six an elevated discussion. Can a sensible,

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Speaker 2: possibly slightly complex idea be floated and sold in the

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Speaker 2: heat of a battle for your electoral life? Should be fun.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety.

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Speaker 2: Seconds seems time to ivestake the damage and the resulting

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Speaker 2: damage control enveloping the BBC right now, the cheer is

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Speaker 2: out in the battle.

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Speaker 4: There's also an impression given that we've listened to these

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Speaker 4: concerns and we've done nothing, and that is also not

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Speaker 4: an accurate representation of both what mister Prescott says and

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Speaker 4: what the BBC has done.

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Speaker 2: As there's a former head of News who fell on

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Speaker 2: a sword yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to make one thing very clear.

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Speaker 6: BBC News is not institutionally biased. That's why is the

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Speaker 6: world's most trusted news provider, as are the Tories.

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Speaker 7: It's not just the Donald Trump panor Armor program.

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Speaker 2: It's the coverage in Gata, It's the issue with transwrtes.

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Speaker 8: It's a whole range of issues that we see bias

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Speaker 8: pervading the BBC.

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Speaker 9: So apologizing is one thing, taking action is another.

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Speaker 10: As his farage, I spoke to the President on Friday.

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Speaker 10: He just said to me, is this how you treat

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Speaker 10: your best ally? I mean, people talk about election interference.

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Speaker 10: What the BBC did was election interference.

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Speaker 2: So I take a couple of things. The shoutdown of

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Speaker 2: IBA did.

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Speaker 11: The Senate's vote last late last night of sixty to

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Speaker 11: forty opens the door. Now the Senate is moving forward

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Speaker 11: on an amended House c R Continuan resolution that will

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Speaker 11: reopen the government until January thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: I'll work you through that in just a moment, because

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Speaker 2: it's moderately complicated at least definitely by the way, I

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Speaker 2: want to crack at the New York governor's job.

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Speaker 3: I'm focused on making New York moret affordable.

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Speaker 12: How do we do that?

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Speaker 3: We cut taxes.

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Speaker 13: Kathy Hokele, who has a record of raising taxes and says, oh,

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Speaker 3: Dammy, I'm the only candidate who's going to cut taxes.

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Speaker 14: Voters are smart.

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Speaker 15: They know that she lies to them to try to

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Speaker 2: Finally, seems the International Omnipic Committee has done a bit

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Speaker 2: of a utn on the transgender policy. Currently they leave

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Speaker 2: it up to the individual'sport of course. However, The Times,

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Speaker 2: reporting the IOC, will rule the transgender female athletes will

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Speaker 2: be prohibited from competing against biological women. It's expected to

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Speaker 2: be announced in February, ahead of those Winter Olympics in Italy.

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Speaker 2: The news of the world in ninety yeah, eight Democrats flipped,

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Speaker 2: so there are some I'm assuming there's some payback on that,

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Speaker 2: but I'll work your throat. It's got to go from

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Speaker 2: the Senate to the House, et cetera, et cetera. But

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Speaker 2: more in a moment. Meantime, the airports still aren't operating,

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Speaker 2: and today the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, limiting private

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Speaker 2: flights at dozens of major US airports. So the mess

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Speaker 2: still far from resolve. It is eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Seems to be part of Tuesday. Juliani's out. He's been

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Speaker 2: pardoned former chief of staff Mark Meadows is out as well.

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Speaker 2: A couple of names you won't necessarily know ed Martin

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Speaker 2: Sidney Powell and John Eastman. They're all involved with Trump

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Speaker 2: and they all deny. They goes back to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: you know the story. Anyway, they've all been pardoned this morning.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Sarkozy hasn't been pardoned, but he has been let

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Speaker 2: we'll get to Catherine before seven fourteen past, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: on partners. Andrew Callah, good morning, Yeah, good morning market,

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Speaker 2: So the PaperWorks still to do. But what's the market

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Speaker 2: think of the deal done?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, cautiously cheering overnight what appears to be a sort

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Speaker 8: of potential breakthrough and what is the longest US government shutdown? Now,

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Speaker 8: we started seeing this during our trading day yesterday, Mike,

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Speaker 8: so when the futures markets sort of started picking up,

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Speaker 7: So the US main session trading is carried on from there.

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Speaker 8: So, as you said, the US Senator advanced a plan

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Speaker 8: that will allow these shutdown potentially to end so you've

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Speaker 8: have broken with a part of LEAs and voters support

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Speaker 8: not happy families amongst the Democrats. Some concessions have been made.

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Speaker 8: I think there is a pledge to have a vote

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Speaker 8: on healthcare at some point, and I'll let you might

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Speaker 8: on all the politics of it. But from a market

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Speaker 8: will hopefully be produced CPI, and that them provides clarity

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Speaker 8: for people like the Federal Reserve, not only them, but

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Speaker 8: also market participants, so remove some potential uncertainty. Markets react

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Speaker 8: very negatively negatively to uncertainty. The biggest reaction has been

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Speaker 8: in the tech heavy Nasdaq and that so I guess

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Speaker 8: my concern, Mike those is whether the deal is whether

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Speaker 8: this is just kicking the can down the road, which

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Speaker 8: talks of jam thirty so we'll do this all again

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Speaker 8: when we come back. But of course does get the

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Speaker 8: airport's moving, people can fly around for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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Speaker 7: We really now need to see how this what happens

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Speaker 7: through the rest of the through the.

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Speaker 2: Process right back home. Vital we probably don't know the name,

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Speaker 2: but Ascott and Wakefield are very well known.

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Speaker 7: That's dead right. So it's one of those ones which

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Speaker 7: you're probably aware of but not aware of.

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Speaker 8: So Vital Healthcare went into a trading hot Yes, if

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Speaker 8: you're not familiar with them.

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Speaker 7: They are a listed property company.

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Speaker 8: They're the only specialist owner of healthcare property listed on

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Speaker 8: the Interdex.

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Speaker 7: So quite a niche sector.

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Speaker 8: But you're looking here at private hospitals, age care facilities

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Speaker 8: quite a big business. Trading was halted yesterday in shares

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Speaker 8: as it went to shareholders to raise two hundred and

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Speaker 8: twenty million to effectively buy itself out of its management contract.

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Speaker 8: So what happens here is the trust owns the assets,

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Speaker 8: but management of those assets and the balance sheets that's

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Speaker 8: outsourcedince this case is to a Canadian fund manager. Called

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Speaker 8: Northwest Healthcare Properties Management. So the idea behind this deals

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Speaker 8: that vital shareholders will benefit from no longer paying a

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Speaker 8: fee to Northwest for the management. Instead, an internal team

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Speaker 8: will look after the assets. Should save in about twenty

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Speaker 8: aligance shareholders and management interests.

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Speaker 7: The issue, of course is that Northwest here.

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Speaker 8: Has perpetual management rights, so you've got to buy them

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Speaker 8: out of the contract in this case for two hundred

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Speaker 7: Now, this has happened with other property trust Mike.

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Speaker 8: We saw this with Precinct, saw this Goodman property as well,

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Speaker 8: So there's a sort of trend away from external management

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Speaker 8: to internalized management. New shares have been sold approximately attempt

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Speaker 8: context here, mic is that the property trust sector has

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Speaker 7: So action on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I just quickly, what's the state of the

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Speaker 2: current vintage of Sophia.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can't talk about the current ventures.

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Speaker 8: But I did drink some twenty fifteen and it was

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Speaker 8: magnificent nice, yeah, very quick. Just my confidence restored. The

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Speaker 8: speaker series at Craigi Range was down there on Friday three.

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Speaker 8: Connor arch Board from Tracksuit bohen Pan, who's the ex

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Speaker 8: Westlake guy who convinced Zuckerberg to launch Facebook marketplace. Shawn

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Speaker 8: Quincy wrote, the Tasman found the company of Genope in

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Speaker 8: a tough year for New Zealand. Business mate, my faith

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Speaker 8: was restored that we can produce leaders of a global standard.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Glad you had a good time. You spend

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Speaker 2: how many weeks a year at Craigie Range, just.

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Speaker 8: Like on average fleeting visits, fleeting visits amongst my very

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Speaker 7: You know that much?

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Speaker 2: They say, right O, what are the numbers?

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Speaker 7: Numbers?

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Speaker 16: So here we go.

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Speaker 8: The DW Jones is up seventy one points point forty

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Speaker 8: seven fifty eight, the S and P five hundred up

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Speaker 8: about one percent, sixty five points sixty seven nine three

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Speaker 8: bus said, the Nastak's up three hundred and sixty eight

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Speaker 8: points one point six percent. I think the mag seven

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Speaker 8: index up just one point nine percent. So that's contributing

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Speaker 8: most is that twenty three thery three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 8: hundred and fourteen points one point one eight percent nine

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing that there's going to be political fallout

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure I had any. It's a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, not the greatest commentator at least he was

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Speaker 2: my lord, when was the last time I said that

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Speaker 1: Embraced the impossible, news talks dead be cos he's out

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Speaker 2: Some questions being raised this morning around construction, specifically on townhouses.

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Speaker 2: Do we have an oversaturated market? Our developers focusing on

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Speaker 2: Dan Richardson is the director of KR Construction and is

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Speaker 18: Dan morning, Good morning, mate, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Not at all. Where's this come from? Who's talking about this?

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Speaker 2: Why is this a problem?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so we're interested in having a conversation about what

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Speaker 2: Has this been a Buiaberware type scenario, because I would

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Speaker 2: argue that you know, in the marketplace, if you're building

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Speaker 2: shonky houses, no one's buying them because there's others to

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Speaker 2: choose from, or is what's happening These people are buying

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Speaker 2: them with no idea of how hot you're going to

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think, you know, building townhouses is a relatively

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Speaker 18: new typology in New Zealand. We've had about one hundred

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Speaker 2: Does the whole system work or not work? How is

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I think we've been quite lucky in New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: Is it just cost?

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Speaker 18: I think predominantly there's a cost factor. And I think

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Speaker 18: Isn't there as much as it could have been in

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Speaker 2: Of course, how do you tell one townhouse from another,

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Speaker 18: That's part of the problem really, you know, the building

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Speaker 18: Code doesn't really provide there's no provision in there for overheating.

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Speaker 18: There's no provision in there for you know, providing really

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Speaker 18: you know, there's some good tools out there. We're a

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we've spoked the conversation. Let's hope people

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Speaker 2: it seems my entire life we've had problem with housing

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Speaker 2: decision on legalizing same sex marriage. To this nationwide call.

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Speaker 2: The appeal came from a person called Kim Davis, former

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Speaker 2: Kentucky court Clark. She was the one who refused to

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Speaker 2: issue marriage licenses to same sex couples. This was when

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Speaker 2: they ruled originally in twenty fifteen. So the lawyers repeatedly

442
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Speaker 2: invoked the words of Clarence Thomas, who was among the

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Speaker 2: nine justices at the time. He's among four dissenting justices

444
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Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen. Roberts was the other one. Alito's

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Speaker 2: still there. They're still on the court Roberts has been

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Speaker 2: silence on the subject. Anyway. The upshot is they got

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Speaker 2: nowhere six.

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Speaker 19: Forty five international correspondence with ends in eye insurance Peace

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Speaker 19: of mind for New Zealand business in France.

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Speaker 2: Is Tuesday morning, paspe morning to you, good morning. Make

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Speaker 2: the Sarkozy thing, is they much uproar or is this

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Speaker 2: just what happens when you when you're appealing and you're

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Speaker 2: not a flight risk, you can go sit at home

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Speaker 2: and wait for your trial.

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Speaker 6: Indeed, that seems to be it age and the fact

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Speaker 6: that he's a former head of state clearly came into this.

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Speaker 6: The appeals court this morning ruled that he could be

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Speaker 6: freed from prison pending that appeal over the allegations that

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Speaker 6: he was part of a scheme that got funding from Libya.

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Speaker 6: There were several things the judge came up with. The

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Speaker 6: most importantly was that he was not a flight risk.

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Speaker 6: This is a man who can't just sort of jump

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Speaker 6: on a plane and go somewhere and no one would notice.

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Speaker 6: Said that he'd behaved and had abided by court orders.

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Speaker 6: And then the other point they came up with was

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Speaker 6: that Sarkozy himself said the trial of jail was enough

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Speaker 6: to deter any breach of the restrictions that would be

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Speaker 6: placed on him. So, after what twenty days in Paris

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Speaker 6: prison for criminal conspiracy, he was picked up by his wife,

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Speaker 6: full model Carla Bruni and taken home, where he will

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Speaker 6: no doubt stay. A couple of hours after he got home,

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Speaker 6: it was announced that, in a break with tradition, he

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Speaker 6: will not be among those the November eleventh Remembrance state

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Speaker 6: service at the after Trimph in Paris.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this Belgian thing over the weekend, how many times

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Speaker 2: do airports need to be buzzed by Russian drones before

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Speaker 2: Europe goes beyond having yet more meetings and tought we

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Speaker 2: better do something and actually does something.

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Speaker 6: There did a lot of problems about what you'd actually do,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, it became more of a problem on Sunday

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Speaker 6: night in Belgium because five drones were spotted over a

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Speaker 6: nuclear power plant. And this came a couple of hours

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Speaker 6: after an airport in the Age eastern Belgium had to

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Speaker 6: be closed down again surge of drone activity around that.

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Speaker 6: Here's the problem, Mike is shooting these things down. Yes,

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Speaker 6: the Brits, the French and the Germans are going to

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Speaker 6: be sending personnel and equipment to try and do something

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Speaker 6: about this disruption, which is not just happening in Belgium,

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Speaker 6: but Belgium seems to be the focus at the moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: shooting these things down is very difficult. Not only do

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Speaker 6: you have to have the equipment there, which France definitely

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Speaker 6: has got, but then you have the concern about where

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Speaker 6: the debris fought will fall into someone's front room, and

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Speaker 6: if there's explosion on board, are you going to blow

495
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Speaker 6: up that house. All these things you know it could be,

496
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Speaker 6: are an issue. Really, So what they're working on is

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Speaker 6: they interfere with the electronics on these drones. This is

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Speaker 6: all the sort of technology that should have been up

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Speaker 6: and running because, as you're right to say, this is

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Speaker 6: something that's been going on for some time and they

501
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Speaker 6: have had the kit to be able to do something.

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Speaker 6: The next question is why Belgium and why has it

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Speaker 6: been over the last week the airport and the capitol

504
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Speaker 6: was closed down, The port and Antwerp was closed down.

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Speaker 6: There's a possible link where Russia. The Defense Ministry says

506
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Speaker 6: it's more likely than not Russia is behind it, and

507
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Speaker 6: that could be the possible link to discussions over the

508
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Speaker 6: use of frozen Russian assets held by a financial firm

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Speaker 6: in Belgium because the EU you want to use that

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Speaker 6: to fund a loan to Ukraine. So that could be

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Speaker 6: why Belgium is in the forefront of these drone attacks.

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Speaker 2: If I had a tin hat, Catherine, and I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at the photo of the Fedoramain and I'm saying, I'm

514
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Speaker 2: looking at the for door Remain and I'm going he

515
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Speaker 2: just happened to be there, and he's dressed the way

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Speaker 2: he is, and he happens to be a fan. I'm

517
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Speaker 2: thinking I could draw some dots. I mean, what do

518
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Speaker 2: you reckon? I mean, it's the weirdest photo in the world,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, You're right, it is.

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Speaker 14: I mean apparently and I apparently.

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Speaker 11: This is what he says.

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Speaker 6: This fifteen year old boy, Pedro, who lives in the

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Speaker 6: southwest of Paris. He dresses like that all the time.

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Speaker 6: His dress code is Classics nineteen forty is ventage. This

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Speaker 6: is how he dresses. And that was just a fluke

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Speaker 6: that on that day he was wearing that three piece

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Speaker 6: suit or a hat, which he's been wearing all for

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Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks. And he just happened to

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Speaker 6: be going to the Louver on that day with his

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Speaker 6: mum and one of his grandparents and he there he was.

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Speaker 6: He was standing in front of the police. Apparently he

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Speaker 6: didn't know about the highest he turned up. He was

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Speaker 6: talking to the police and that was when a photographer

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Speaker 6: took that snap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he says he.

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Speaker 6: Laid low because it was quite amusing to what the

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Speaker 6: internet does that went up around.

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Speaker 2: It's not surprised, all right, nice to catch up Catherine

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Speaker 2: Field in France. The only reason I give him the

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Speaker 2: benefit of that when I was nineteen years old and

542
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Speaker 2: I was working for four ex oneder Need, I wore

543
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Speaker 2: three piece suits and so you think, what weirdo. He's

544
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Speaker 2: not the only weirdo out there, by the way, people

545
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Speaker 2: are on the streets of Lisbon at the moment. In Portugal,

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Speaker 2: their government, which is sort of center right these days,

547
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Speaker 2: wants to change a few laws around work, you know,

548
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Speaker 2: how you sack people and stuff like that, and the

549
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Speaker 2: unions don't like it. So they're on the street. And

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Speaker 2: if you want to read a really interesting piece about renewables,

551
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Speaker 2: which is where we're heading, look at the BBC piece

552
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Speaker 2: of red over the weekend Netherlands renewables dry, putting pressure

553
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Speaker 2: on the power grids. So they're all they're all gun ho.

554
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Speaker 2: They all love the evs and they all love the

555
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Speaker 2: solar and the wind and all the other stuff, but

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Speaker 2: their stuff. They're increasingly dealing with power cuts on an

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Speaker 2: ongoing basis. So look that up and have a read

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Speaker 2: and wonder to hear yourself whether we're heading in the

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Speaker 2: same direction.

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Speaker 1: Nine to seven, the Mike asking breakfast with Beiley's real

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Speaker 1: estate news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be Mikes Labour even going to need the Murray Party.

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Speaker 2: The Murray voters will probably vote for Labour. Now, well,

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Speaker 2: what makes you say that? And I highly doubt they'll

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Speaker 2: get above four percent. The four percent is not relevant.

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Speaker 2: It's a five percent threshold. And more importantly, the Murray

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Speaker 2: Party aren't above that threshold, never have been, never will be.

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Speaker 2: They win the electorate seats, so the key is the

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Speaker 2: electorate seat. So yes they will. But interesting point, my

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Speaker 2: can'd design houses in Auckland? People now want standalone houses?

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Speaker 12: Again?

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Speaker 2: Is that true? Stats don't say that council only focus

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Speaker 2: on bulkan location, not the actual design and aesthetics like

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Speaker 2: other countries. It's back to front antiquated thought process that

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Speaker 2: produces ugly crap. Steve on that I wholeheartedly agree. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: For the ins are the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 3: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next list.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Greenshoots, Central Countries SME Smeth's feeling confident, confident,

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Speaker 2: confident about the economy. So we got data from Prosper's

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Speaker 2: SMEs Sentiment Tracker report. Ninety two percent. That's virtually everyone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's just say everyone very or somewhat confident

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Speaker 2: about the next twelve months ninety one percent. So the

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Speaker 2: confident with about the next five years what next five years? Interestingly,

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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily translate to the profits. The report describes the

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Speaker 2: mood as high self confidence, lower market optimism though seventy

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Speaker 2: two percent. So they expect profits to rise or remain steady.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not bad. Tenty two percent. Three quarters,

589
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Speaker 2: that's the bulk. Twenty six percent expect profits to decline.

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Speaker 2: Business health ratings down. Fifty five percent say their business

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Speaker 2: is good, down from sixty two percent last year. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what good means. I mean, what a

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Speaker 2: vague word that is? What are the issues, Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what they are, rising costs, revenue and market demand,

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Speaker 2: economic environment, workforce and staffing issues. I mean that's all

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Speaker 2: the same thing, really, but fifty one percent rising costs

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Speaker 2: the biggest. Staffing and recruitment still the largest cost, followed

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Speaker 2: by government payments and tax SMEs are adapting instead of

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Speaker 2: just waiting for recovery. They're going through the options, is

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Speaker 2: what they're doing. Thirty four percent or adjusting pricing, thirty

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Speaker 2: one percent of diversifying their offerings, thirty one percent of

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Speaker 2: investing in marketing and promotion avenues, twenty eight percent of

603
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Speaker 2: hiring more staff. So twenty eight percent of hiring more staff.

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Speaker 2: That's encouraging. That'll reflect the job ads that are up.

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Speaker 2: All those numbers are ups and saful, so I mean

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Speaker 2: you can't argue with that. Broadly speaking, that is a

607
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Speaker 2: pretty positive picture about SMEs. And you know how I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it ninety something percent of SMEs make up the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand economy, a country of small and medium businesses.

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Speaker 2: Basically right, the Maray Party do we care? First question,

611
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Speaker 2: do we care of some minor bit of political frippery

612
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Speaker 2: on the side want to go and implode do we care?

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Speaker 2: So what I can't understand is the business of the

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Speaker 2: council be the caucus. Where's the walker jumping law involved

615
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Speaker 2: in this? And given two of the six leaders, that's

616
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Speaker 2: the third of the caucus all by itself. So you've

617
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Speaker 2: got the numbers problem there. So anyway, what's going on

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Speaker 2: will get some inside after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 2: You're a news talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Credible, compelling.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show you confess it's the Mic Hosking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three news talks head be.

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Speaker 2: Well seven past seven, Well is quite the show. The

625
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Speaker 2: Murray party, you're expelling cup Kinging and Ferris. Of course

626
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Speaker 2: they'll become independence. They're going to fight at whatever that means.

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Speaker 2: Baden Barbara is the spokesperson for the Ebechair's Forum and.

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Speaker 15: Is with us.

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Speaker 2: Baden morning to you morning. What your role in this

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Speaker 2: and what happened yesterday? Is this all part of the

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Speaker 2: plan or not?

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no no no. We've we were trying

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Speaker 9: to get to a meeting together on Wednesday actually to

634
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Speaker 9: see if we could find a way forward. But this,

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Speaker 9: you know, this has been a process that's been happening

636
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Speaker 9: within the initial Council of the Maori Party and then

637
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Speaker 9: they've come up with their decision.

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Speaker 2: When you say Wednesday you mean tomorrow. Is that still

639
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Speaker 2: going ahead? Is there any point?

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Speaker 9: No, it's not going ahead. We're going to hold off

641
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Speaker 9: on the on the meeting Tucketa and Mediumental. You know,

642
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Speaker 9: they've got things to consider, what their nixt moves are,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, there was probably not going to be the

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Speaker 9: best time day that we.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to us in really simple terms, when

646
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Speaker 2: what does it these two have done specifically?

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Speaker 9: I'm not too sure. I'm not too sure that the

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Speaker 9: grounds is why they've been kicked out of the party.

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Speaker 2: See, isn't that the problem? No one seems to know

650
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Speaker 2: what's going on.

651
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, would we had our meeting with the

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Speaker 9: co leaders. I mean there were some issues there, but

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Speaker 9: whether or not those specific issues were the reasons why

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Speaker 9: they were kicked out, yeah, yeah, But yet we've always

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Speaker 9: identified that as a problem that they're not talking to

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Speaker 9: each other. They haven't been talking each to each other

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Speaker 9: for a month now, and so if we could get

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Speaker 9: them in a room on them and I together have

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Speaker 9: face to face conversations, you know that it goes a

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Speaker 9: long way, goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: But when they say they're going to fight it, fight

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Speaker 2: it with who, Well, I.

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Speaker 9: Guess so they'll they'll go back to the National Council

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Speaker 9: who made the decision and in public case?

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Speaker 2: Does that have any standing anywhere in law? Or is

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Speaker 2: this just a group of people sitting around making a

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Speaker 2: few decisions and they're just arguing with each other.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I think that. You know, the party's got

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Speaker 9: its own constitution and rules, and so you know, of

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Speaker 9: by the reports, I've used the constitution as is the

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Speaker 9: reason to to kind of move them on.

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Speaker 2: See the problem I have? I mean, I don't have

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Speaker 2: a problem because I don't care. But when you talk

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Speaker 2: about the Maori Party and the EWE Cheers Forum, how

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Speaker 2: many actual Maori do the do you guys represent? In

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Speaker 2: other words, you know plenty of Mari you're just getting

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Speaker 2: on with their life and couldn't give a monkey about this,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean they don't represent Maori them, do they?

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Speaker 9: Oh? The ee chaers, So we've got we've got big

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Speaker 9: ewie small ewe eighty eight in total. I would say

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Speaker 9: they would represent a big chunk of Mary. They are

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Speaker 9: registered on the EWE enrollments. So yeah, yeah, it'd be thousands,

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Speaker 9: thousands of mary So.

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Speaker 2: So what's your hope, basically they will get on get

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Speaker 2: thereack together and stop embarrassing themselves.

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Speaker 9: Well, we hope that we could find some reconciliation that

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Speaker 9: we're a year out from a very important election and

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Speaker 9: that the Marti Party needs to be organized in dropping

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Speaker 9: policy at this time, not having in fighting. So, I mean,

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Speaker 9: we we concerned with the well being and in the

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Speaker 9: future of our people and the Marty Party has a

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Speaker 9: role to play in any government going forward.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you stand for the new sounds sensible.

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Speaker 9: I've got a big I got a big job trying

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Speaker 9: to look after my own are not going and one

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Speaker 9: hundred thousand people, And yeah, we've got we've got a

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Speaker 9: lot of issues that we're trying aspirations in dreams, we're

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Speaker 9: trying to trying to achieve. But I mean, the Marti

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Speaker 9: Party got a they've got a really important role to

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Speaker 9: play in helping EWE achieve our EWE explorations and and

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Speaker 9: then and so that's really important and that's kind of

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Speaker 9: why we've we've stepped in to try and find a

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Speaker 9: way forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's your best with it, Biden. Appreciate your time,

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Speaker 2: Biden Barber, who's these spokes visited? But the EECH is

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Speaker 2: four and eleven past seven pars getting old text machines

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Speaker 2: off and running. I'll have your feedback shortly. We've got

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Speaker 2: to look the government, will get a look at the

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Speaker 2: government's Rewright of the Arms Act today. Current laws go

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Speaker 2: back to eighty three argument as they're outdated. Nicole McKey

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Speaker 2: has led the charge for change. Gwinn Thurlough is the

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Speaker 2: CEO of the New Zealand deir Storker's Association. Good Morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, make no draft. So is what you're getting

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Speaker 2: a surprise or have you got a hint?

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Speaker 16: No, we're getting a complete surprise that it's been very

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Speaker 16: hush hush.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 16: We think it's because there's a lot of risk of

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Speaker 16: interest groups and the really pro gum people and the

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Speaker 16: anti gun people getting upset before they read the whole act.

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Speaker 16: And I think we're as the sort of middle of

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Speaker 16: the road hunters and gatherers here, we're sort of also

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Speaker 16: kept in the dark until we see the full rewrite

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Speaker 16: when it's launched by the government.

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Speaker 2: What's your vibe on Nicole McKey? She a sensible person

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Speaker 2: will do right by you or this could go pair shape.

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Speaker 16: Look, she's actually quite well respected, and she's well respected

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Speaker 16: within the firearms community, and she used to be an educator,

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Speaker 16: so she worked for the Mountain Safety Council, were the

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Speaker 16: EWE groups on a program called Fuckatu Patou which helped

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Speaker 16: to get outreach on safet use of firearm. So within

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Speaker 16: the community she's seen of someone that might be able

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Speaker 16: to walk the fine line between, you know, balancing public

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Speaker 16: safety and everyone's interest in having the lawful use of

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Speaker 16: fire arm. So there's a lot of trust in her

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Speaker 16: and hopefully she uses that wisely when she rewrites the fact.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what she has to say today.

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Speaker 2: Gwin appreciated Gwin Thurlow, who's the boss of the Dear

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Speaker 2: Stalker's Association. Thirteen minutes past seven light. So over the

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Speaker 2: last six weeks, all this in finding among the Marory party,

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Speaker 2: what value have they provided their constituents in even the

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Speaker 2: position they hold while earning a significant income. It's a

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Speaker 2: very good point. They're not the first political party to

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Speaker 2: have a meltdown, of course, so let's not make it

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Speaker 2: a race based thing. And a lot of you asking

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Speaker 2: about the coverage. How can the Mary Party get so

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Speaker 2: much coverage? Will every time a political party implodes in

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Speaker 2: this country, there's plenty of coverage for it. But your

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Speaker 2: point about the policy, and this is what the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister was saying post conference yesterday. They are a joke,

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Speaker 2: They are an embarrassment. There is nothing about policy. It's

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Speaker 2: all performative and if they implode in disapplaire, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone's going to miss the thirteen.

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Speaker 2: A'd be Antonia Watson is the CEO of AIN said,

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Speaker 2: of course a very successful profit yesterday, although you use

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Speaker 2: bank and profit together and you get a bit of

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Speaker 2: angst in this country at the moment. So she's with us.

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Speaker 2: After seven thirty sixteen past new report, this one into

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Speaker 2: the government's promised to cut same red tape? Are they yes?

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Speaker 2: So what have we got? A year on positive steps

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Speaker 2: in reducing compliance cost? Most issues are showing progress, so

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Speaker 2: this is all good. We've seen the hairdressing regulations of course,

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Speaker 2: the employment leave disputes, the government procurement, the anti money

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Speaker 2: laundering rules changed anyway. Catherine rich Is the Business New

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Speaker 2: Zealand boss and is back with us. Catherine, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. From what they've done out of ten, ten

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Speaker 2: is perfect, ones a bust. What's your number?

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Speaker 15: I'd say about a seven. I mean there's more progress

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Speaker 15: to be made in a number of areas. But changes

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Speaker 15: to some of the things you mentioned are pretty significant.

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Speaker 15: Changes to government procurement, getting rid of forty years of

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Speaker 15: stupid hairdressing laws, health and safety holidays acts. It's a

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Speaker 15: lot of good work. Some haven't engaged though, so this

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Speaker 15: room for progress.

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Speaker 2: The Ministry of Regulation. Is this all they're doing and

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Speaker 2: therefore is this a justifiable ministry?

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Speaker 15: They have been part of the change. I mean they

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Speaker 15: are another place for business to take some of their concerns.

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Speaker 15: But when the Business New Zealand Network did this survey

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Speaker 15: of small business, we actually took the results to about

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Speaker 15: seven different government departments. So most of the government departments

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Speaker 15: have been engaging, some haven't.

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Speaker 2: Is that part of why the Ministry of Regulation may

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Speaker 2: well work? There are too many government departments overseeing each

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Speaker 2: other's work and therefore it becomes problematic and unproductive.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's another way in to raise issues. So that's

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Speaker 15: why I am a fan of the Ministry for Regulation.

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Speaker 15: It's been a way of raising issues with departments, particularly

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Speaker 15: if the department doesn't want to put stuff into their

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Speaker 15: work program. So you know, overall, I think the progress

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Speaker 15: has been good one year on where we're pretty pleased

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Speaker 15: with some of the responses from departments, but there's work

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Speaker 15: to be done. ACC I think needs to make some

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Speaker 15: changes on case management and helping businesses clarify when people

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Speaker 15: can get back to work. Business usum's a champion for

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Speaker 15: the small business, so this is just another way we

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Speaker 15: keep the pressure on good.

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Speaker 2: But the hair dressing, as much as I'm all in

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Speaker 2: favor of getting rid of red tape and all it,

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Speaker 2: so the hairdressing stuff was almost comedic, wasn't it. I

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Speaker 2: mean stupid laws yes, and get rid of them, yes,

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Speaker 2: But it didn't change the world, did it.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's still a sector which is about which is

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Speaker 15: worth about one point five billion to the economy, and

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Speaker 15: if you were in that sector, it was a big deal.

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Speaker 15: And this is a thing with small business red tape.

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Speaker 15: When you've got ninety seven percent of all businesses being small,

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Speaker 15: the red tape that they face can be significant. So

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Speaker 15: you've got to go sector bisector to get.

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Speaker 12: Rid of it.

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Speaker 15: That's about the only way to reduce red tape.

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Speaker 2: Right, Catherine, appreciate your time. Let's hope, hope they keep

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Speaker 2: up the good work, Catherine Rich who is the Business

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Chief Executive, Mike, Nobody votes for the married

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Speaker 2: party for policies. It's just ignorant fools who get duped

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Speaker 2: into voting for them. Well, that's called democracy, my friend.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how you vote, why you vote. You

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Speaker 2: can vote, and if you do, you do exactly. Why

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Speaker 2: does a fringe activist party Mike with three percent get

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Speaker 2: so much pressed? Well, simple reason, they're legitimately elected into

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Speaker 2: the House of Representatives and two they may well be

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Speaker 2: solid truth with the BBC need to deliver to offset

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Speaker 2: the one gargantuan cock up that has seen the Director

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Speaker 2: Like all stories, you can dilute its seriousness. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Panorama program wasn't actually made by the BBC. It

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Speaker 2: was a contract company. So was the bias external not internal?

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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm clutching its straws here. Does a resignation mean

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Speaker 2: the organization is no longer biased or perceived as biased?

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Speaker 2: I would have thought not. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 2: prove inherent bias anyway? Which is not going charge not

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Speaker 2: just at the BBC but a number of public broadcasters

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Speaker 2: all over the world. I mean I cited the Radio

870
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Speaker 2: New Zealand example yesterday out of the boot Camp report.

871
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Their headline read the conclusion was of a rushed exercise.

872
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: That wasn't the conclusion. It was an observation, not a conclusion.

873
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 2: But even if you argue the observation was a conclusion

874
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: that would mean there were many conclusions. Why I pick

875
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: that one when there were positive ones to choose from

876
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Speaker 2: as well?

877
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: Now?

878
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: Is that inherent bias or just a busy journalist looking

879
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: to publish a story? Are we the punter, inherently biased

880
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: and therefore or whatever we see we don't like well

881
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: must be biased. The BBC bit is, of course indisputable.

882
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: It's not about inference or emphasis. It's about making something

883
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: seem real, which factually wasn't. I mean, they made it up.

884
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: Why would you do that unless you had an agenda?

885
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: Why would the BBC not spot it? Too busy or

886
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: too biased? The Culture Secretary said, now more than ever,

887
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: the need for trusted news is essential to our cultural

888
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: and democratic life, which is what they say when they

889
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: have carnage to deal with using taxpayers money. The BBC

890
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: were already booked in this week, ironically, for a parliamentary

891
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: inquiry into their coverage of trans writes in Gaza, cementing

892
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: in many people's minds what they already suspected. My summation

893
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: is basically, it's over the juries and the verdict is

894
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: guilty and the people are always right. Whatever the media

895
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Speaker 2: might once have had by way of respect and trust

896
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: is largely, if not completely gone, and two resignations cemented

897
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Speaker 2: any remaining doubt asking. The key question to ask Intindia

898
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Speaker 2: is whie to banks and Zealand charge far higher margin

899
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: on floating rates in Australia it's around double the margin.

900
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: It's not it's a bit higher, but it's a bit

901
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: less but not much more. And I'm giving you that answer.

902
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: How many times have I given that answer on this program?

903
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 7: Fifteen hundred.

904
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Speaker 2: But I'll explain it when well, I'll look alask and

905
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: Tonia just for you and she can explain it yet again.

906
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: But it's got to do with the Reserve Bank. It's

907
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: got to do with the money they put aside for

908
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: a rainy day, and those rules are changing, and that's

909
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: why that conversation is now important. Mike christ it's got

910
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: quite a few terraced houses in the city. This goes

911
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: back to our interview an hour ago about his building.

912
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: Crappy old townhouses that heat up and kill people esthetically

913
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: look stylish, unlike the cheap, ugly builds in Auckland. I

914
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: suppose it's what you get in a rebuild, isn't it.

915
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: People actually think about what's going on architecturally. Speaking morning Mike,

916
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: when do we hear about the three remaining Red Bull

917
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: seats end of the season. They're focusing on Max at

918
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: the moment. Max has a chance, not a great one,

919
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: but a chance of winning the championship for a fifth time,

920
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: so they want to focus on that. Watch Ted Kravitz yesterday.

921
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: I like Ted good a lot of time for him.

922
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: He's part of the F one coverage for Skysport UK.

923
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: He spoke yesterday as Liam was a foregone conclusion. Lynn

924
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Speaker 2: bladd Lawson Bye bay Yuki. That seems from his soundings

925
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Speaker 2: over the weekend, that seems to be pretty much how

926
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Speaker 2: it's going to unfold. All we're waiting for now is

927
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Speaker 2: the actual announcement, right Banking Profits margins more shortly after

928
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Speaker 2: the news here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast, The News.

929
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Speaker 1: Talks twice, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The

930
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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way

931
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Speaker 1: News togs headbs.

932
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Speaker 2: It's away from late so it's bank profit time again.

933
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Westpac last weekend's in first cab off the rank this

934
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: week and the number is a large net profit of

935
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: two point five three billion, which is up over twenty percent.

936
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Speaker 2: And Tony Watson is the AMST CEO and is with us.

937
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning mate. In general, how

938
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: comfortable are you talking about numbers the size.

939
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: In general when you think about the context of our

940
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Speaker 5: size in New Zealand, they are very big numbers. And

941
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Speaker 5: a headline growth in the cost of living crisis of

942
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: twenty percent is very uncomfortable. And I think it's just

943
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Speaker 5: trying to get the cut through that that headline number

944
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: is caused by a whole lot of accounting noise around

945
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Speaker 5: our around valuing our derivatives, and the actual underlying number

946
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Speaker 5: is four percent.

947
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: Right, the margin is up three basis points to two

948
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: point six So how do you defend that?

949
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: So, I mean, one way of looking at it is

950
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: that we've had to put in one point two billion

951
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: dollars of extra capital this year as we are meeting

952
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 5: the new capital requirements. That comes at a cost to

953
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: us all other things being equal of ten percent, sorry,

954
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: ten basis points. So a three basis point increase in

955
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: margin to me means that our shareholders are wearing part

956
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: of the pain of the additional capital as well. And

957
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 5: I think that's, you know, on balance, is probably fair.

958
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: They RB rewrited these rules they get help you out

959
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 2: materially on there for us.

960
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: Or not not not materially. They RB have put out

961
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 5: two proposals. The first one has a little bit more

962
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: of the most expensive form of form of capital, which

963
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Speaker 5: is common actually tier one in it, and the second

964
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 5: one has more overall capital, so the actual So the

965
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: capital changes put upward pressure on pricing. If you want

966
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: to maintain your returns the same, there isn't much difference

967
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 5: in that upward pressure given those two options.

968
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: So this is our b wheelhouse. But Nicola Willis wanted

969
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: to rewrite and she wanted something a bit betters. She

970
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: lost that battle.

971
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: Then look, it's still under consultation and so we've put

972
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 5: up a third proposal, which we think is really balanced,

973
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: and it's under consultation and where we're anxiously awaiting the results.

974
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: So what's your proposal.

975
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: Our proposal is to align with the Australian proposal. They

976
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: are also they're also changing their capital models. Australia and

977
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Speaker 5: New Zealand have two of the most highest capital ratios

978
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Speaker 5: in the world even currently when you align them on

979
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Speaker 5: an international basis. But we think that there's some efficiencies

980
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 5: not just with banking but in general if we align

981
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 5: as much to Australia as possible, and if we did that,

982
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 5: we would there would be less there'll be less upward

983
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 5: pressure and prices, but also we would still be maintaining

984
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 5: a more conservative capital stance because there is some more

985
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: conservatism in our underlying calculations the way we do it

986
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 5: in New Zealand. So we feel like it's a balanced option.

987
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: So we'll see what's your read on whether you're going

988
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: to get any cut through on that.

989
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

990
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

991
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: I mean, the Reserve Bank have actually been very very open.

992
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 5: They've been listening through the consultation. They've been very clear

993
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 5: that they want everyone's views. So we'll see where that goes.

994
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: How much of this conservatism around the amount of money

995
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: you've got to put a side is based on the

996
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: fact we're small and therefore allegedly fragile. Is that part

997
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: of it or not?

998
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: Look, Mike, I completely agree that we are smaller, we're distant,

999
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 5: we don't have some of the advantages that say Australia

1000
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: has with the mining. We don't have a huge market

1001
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: on our doorstep. We have weather events. So I can

1002
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: completely understand that we should hold more capital in our

1003
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: banking system than maybe some other countries. But the question

1004
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: is how much more? And we are already right now

1005
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 5: without any more capital going in. Oliver woman did some

1006
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: work for it ARB and Z and we're already the

1007
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: second highest in the world without the extra capital that's

1008
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 5: still going to go in over the next few years.

1009
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: But you still maintain that if that number was significantly lower,

1010
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: your margin would be lower, and therefore they are directly.

1011
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 13: Linked, not lower.

1012
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 5: So the thing to really remember is that this is

1013
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: capital that we'll go in in the future. So the

1014
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: offset is less output pressure on price itself. We have

1015
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 5: to put less capital in in the future, there's less

1016
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 5: output pressure on prices in order to maintain, you know,

1017
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: the modestly above cost of capital returns that we have

1018
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: at the moment, which is what we need to deliver

1019
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 5: to our shareholders for them to invest twenty billion dollars

1020
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: in New Zealand.

1021
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but two point six is higher than Australia. This

1022
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: is the great quandary that people keep asking me to

1023
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: ask you about. And the argument has always been, oh,

1024
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: but here we have to put so much more money

1025
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: aside because there RB tells us. Is that no longer

1026
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: your argument?

1027
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 6: Yep?

1028
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 12: No no.

1029
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 5: So if you think about our overall margin at two

1030
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: point six aps for our sort of retail and commercial

1031
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 5: businesses that compares to our Australian retail and commercial business

1032
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: has added together a two point threty nine, so a

1033
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: twenty one basis point difference that is more than accounted for.

1034
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: If you look at the Oliver Wyman difference in capital

1035
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: between Australia and New Zealand, that difference is probably a

1036
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: cost of say thirty basis points, So that's more than

1037
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 5: accounted for by the extra capital we have here.

1038
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, do you still what does it feel like running

1039
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: a successful business which you in disputably are, and have

1040
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: a finance minister constantly at you.

1041
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: Look, she does her job and I do mine, and

1042
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: we try and run a really strong, safe, trusted bank

1043
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 5: for New Zealanders. The government's role is to make sure

1044
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: that New Zealanders get the best deal they possibly can

1045
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 5: out of all the industries in New Zealand.

1046
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Do you think we are all have a genuinely open

1047
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: and competitive banking market for the average punter to get

1048
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: a good deal with.

1049
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I do. I mean yes, one hundred percent. Our

1050
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 5: staff are out there every day competing to win business

1051
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: and competing hard. We are looking at what our competition

1052
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 5: are doing constantly.

1053
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: SBSA they hoovered up six thousand customers in the last year.

1054
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: Is that proof that there is competition and therefore people

1055
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: can move and will move if the deals are good.

1056
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely. We've seen an average in some months it's been

1057
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 5: more an average of twenty five percent of homelan customers

1058
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: switching within the industry over the last year. So twenty

1059
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: five percent of people switching every time their homeland's up

1060
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: for prefixing.

1061
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: I think that's huge, right Ed McKnight. Do you know

1062
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: the Opes Partners thing that he's done on banks and

1063
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: their interest rates? No, I don't, all right, it doesn't

1064
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: matter that the upshot is he looked at over a

1065
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: period of time as to who was first out of

1066
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: the blocks in terms of offering the best rate. B

1067
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Speaker 2: and Z seems the best along with wes PAW. You

1068
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: get there eventually on the longer term money. The point

1069
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: being is once you shake it all down, you guys

1070
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: are all the same at the end of the day.

1071
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: And this backs up Nicola Willis's argument. At the end

1072
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: of the day, it's all the same. There is no

1073
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: real competition.

1074
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 5: It's interesting because as someone puts rates down, others will follow.

1075
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: That's very competitive market. But the suggestion there is once

1076
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 5: everyone matches us, we should continue putting them down. And

1077
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: then everyone matches and continue putting them down, and then

1078
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: there comes a point that it's unsustainable and we don't

1079
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: therefore have the returns that mean that we're comfortable to

1080
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 5: keep lending too Kiwi. So the sort of a the

1081
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 5: sort of a you know, do we want a vicious

1082
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 5: cycle to the bottom or that will mean we have

1083
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: less strong and stable than sustainable banks.

1084
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: But so am I?

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Speaker 2: Am I a simpleton? So just back to that business.

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Speaker 2: All I've seen through the GFC and through COVID is

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Speaker 2: you guys, generally the big four here are fantastically successful

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00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: and profitable, and well done to you for that. Why

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Speaker 2: do you need to put any money aside? You know

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Speaker 2: what you're doing.

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Speaker 15: You know that we have had.

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Speaker 5: The GFC wasn't an existential crisis in New Zealand. It

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Speaker 5: certainly was at other parts of the world. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's why I'd say that we you know, we are

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Speaker 5: well capitalized. We've done a lot since the GFC, but

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00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: don't forget that in COVID we our profit dropped thirty percent.

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Speaker 5: In the GFC, we had one year we made one

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Speaker 5: hundred and ninety million dollars and that's a lot less

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Speaker 5: than right now. So you know, when those real crises,

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Speaker 5: you see bank profits drop a lot, and so we

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Speaker 5: need to be ready and have a good capital base

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Speaker 5: to protect us from those real crises.

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Speaker 2: How many people you got working in your bank at

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Speaker 2: the moment who come to you in your office periodically

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00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: and go, this AI tech thing's going to blow and

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00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: that might have some sort of bottom line effect for us.

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Speaker 5: We talk about ALI a lot. It's got a lot

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Speaker 5: of uses. We also want to be very cautious that

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Speaker 5: we don't let something loose that hallucinates for our customers.

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Speaker 5: So you know, it's exciting, but I guess it's exciting,

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Speaker 5: but with absolute caution around it.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me the insolvency numbers we covered yesterday and

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who did it, but insolvencies are up

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00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 2: forty percent. The money you've put aside for bad debt

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00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: is down. How can the two be.

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 5: True because we will have provided so any of our

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00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 5: customers that are in that in that group of customers

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Speaker 5: that are looking like the approaching insolvency, we would have

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Speaker 5: probably provided for them in the past, not this year,

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Speaker 5: because we'll be looking at looking at our results, looking

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Speaker 5: at what the economy is looking like. We sort of

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Speaker 5: take a forward view of the economy and we tend

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Speaker 5: to provide what we call collective provision upfront, which is

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Speaker 5: just what's the risk in our book of things happening,

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Speaker 5: So we would have already provided for that.

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Speaker 2: How bullish for twenty six are you? For New Zealand inc?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm cautiously optimistic. There are some green shoots out there.

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Speaker 5: It's still tough, there's no question about that. It's particularly

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00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 5: tough in places like Auckland and Wellington, say, compared to

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00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 5: the South Island does in christ Church recently, and that

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 5: was pretty pretty exciting place at the moment. Actually, I

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00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 5: think you're seeing some of the rural economy impact coming

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Speaker 5: through flowing through to the cities. But there's some real

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00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: there are some actual, real positives. If you think about

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Speaker 5: the pain of the last few years, it's also sort

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Speaker 5: of cleared decks for the next up swing. So we've

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Speaker 5: got real house prices. They've unwheulmded the COVID bubble. We've

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00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: got household and firm debt lower than it was pre

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Speaker 5: COVID as a share of GDP. We've got inflation hopefully

1141
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 5: hopefully touchwood under control. We've got imports reducing, exports growing.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of our card data showing that

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Speaker 5: a lot of the categories are now spending is up

1144
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: to So that's people just getting a little bit more

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 5: confidence to spend now rather than to sort of re

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 5: establish their buffers, which is I think what they've been

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Speaker 5: doing as interest rates been coming down to date. So

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to. You appreciate it as always. Antonio Watson,

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Speaker 2: who's the boss of the a m ZI thirteen.

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00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: Two, The Mic Asking Breakers full show podcast on iHeartRadio

1152
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Speaker 1: now ad By News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b and by way of comparison, I and ZID Australia.

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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: Their profit dip fourteen percent, but they've had a bunch

1155
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: of issues that they want boy with in the last

1156
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: year that they claim there's a new bloke. They're laying

1157
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: off some people and he claims he's got it all

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Speaker 2: under control. Morning, Mike. Can the two expelled from the

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00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: Maori Party standards independence, Well, of course they can. They

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: are independence says of now. They are no longer INPs

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Speaker 2: for the Maory Party. They are independent MPs in the House.

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Speaker 2: And what I want to know is where's the Waker

1163
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: jumping law. What's the point of having a Waker jumping

1164
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: law if you're not going to enact it? For goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: What I'd forgotten about until I looked it up again

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Speaker 2: yesterday because I knew this would be an issue, is

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: two Waker jumping laws. You remember that first one came

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Speaker 2: and went in the early part of the century, and

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Speaker 2: then the second one, which was part of the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand first Labor government. The original one had a sunset clause,

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Speaker 2: so they brought it back in. So the problem is

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Speaker 2: that the Caucus will need to enact it, not the Council,

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Speaker 2: because the Council aren't in the Parliament, of course, So

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Speaker 2: the Council vote to expel them, but the Caucus then

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: need to use the Waker jumping law because it becomes

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Speaker 2: a parliamentary thing. And then you've got because you only

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Speaker 2: got six two of them being the leaders, so they

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 2: might want to get rid of them. But what about

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Speaker 2: the other two because the two concerned of the two expellees,

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Speaker 2: so that's four. So where are the other two? Said?

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Speaker 2: What are the other two? And that those two split,

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Speaker 2: that's three each.

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Speaker 14: I'm just trying to find Migraine exactly.

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Speaker 2: Which means you're never going to say that's that's a

1185
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: job for Jerry. Maybe this afternoon watch Parliament nine minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight The Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News, togs Head Bess.

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Speaker 2: Living away from a big day in the old hometown,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Trotting Cup Day of course first run in

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Speaker 2: nineteen oh four to thirty two hundred meter classic. Brian

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Speaker 2: Thompson's the Eddington Raceway Chief Executive and is with us

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00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: Brian morning, did Mike you go mate? Very well? Has

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00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: it stopped raining?

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 12: Yeah? The rain stopped, the winds died down and I

1195
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 12: can see the sun starting to poke through.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what happens on Trotting Cup Day, isn't it.

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: It never rains.

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Speaker 12: Nah, once those gates open, it never owns on Cup Day.

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Speaker 2: You'd know that he is exactly right. So big crowd today,

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Speaker 2: what are we expecting?

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Speaker 12: I reckon we're looking around about that fourteen fifteen thousand

1202
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 12: number numbers are up on last year, and we're really

1203
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 12: excited about and happy with them.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: To be honest, nice people, I was going to ask

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Speaker 2: you about the horses. What about the talent of the race?

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Speaker 2: Is it good? I mean, is the industry in good heart?

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, we're positive and this race is going to be fantastic,

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Speaker 12: especially the Iit Trotting Cup. They're racing for a million

1209
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 12: dollars at five point fifty three. A couple of OSSI's

1210
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 12: that coming over to try and steal the cup away

1211
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Speaker 12: from the Kiwis and probably leap the fame which is

1212
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 12: the IVY is probably favorite, but Republican Party are good

1213
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 12: Kiwi horses pretty close, so it's going to be exciting race.

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Speaker 2: The reason I ask about the horses the people there

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: for the horses, that they're there for the entertainment.

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Speaker 12: Oh better both To be honest, we give people a

1217
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 12: reason to dress up, celebrate and have some fun with

1218
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Speaker 12: friends and family. There are the infield, which we've got

1219
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 12: shape Shifter and Savage starting after the last race, and

1220
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 12: plenty of DJs going throughout the day and we've got

1221
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 12: a silent rave k for those people who have put

1222
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Speaker 12: some headphones on to doesn't effect the horse racing. But

1223
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 12: there's also hospitality. We've got a couple of new areas

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Speaker 12: open this year with the ned Lawn and Gray Goose Terrace.

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Speaker 12: The hospital numbers are looking really good and you know,

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 12: as we said, we're just trying to give people from

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Speaker 12: around Tent Tavern and probably further a field to a

1228
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 12: reason to dressed up and celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have the best of those. Brian appreciates time.

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00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: Brian Thompson, who's the Addington Raceway chief executive, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: love a silent rave cave. I love watching the silent

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: rave Cave on the news at night because you just

1233
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of pissed people with headphones on looking

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: ridiculous and that's the best entertainment. Mike and Toonia speaks

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00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: well and shows up the minister's lack of understanding of

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00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: banking as well as butter and supermarkets. Yeah, for a

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: person who's running a campaign to change the way butts

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Speaker 2: sold and supermarkets operate and banks operate, I don't know

1239
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: that Nicol was actually winning that one news for you

1240
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Speaker 2: in a couple of moments here on the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast, asking the questions others won't the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1242
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: with the Defender Embrace the impossible news?

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Speaker 3: Togs dead be here?

1244
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: Seven past eight, we've got a Kiwi are starring the

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: latest version of the Predator franchise. Now I know the

1246
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: Predator franchise. First movie goes all the way back to

1247
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: eighty seven start somebody called Arnold Schwarzenegger. Since then there

1248
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: have been four others, as well as two Alien v.

1249
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: Predator films. Anyway, Demetrius Cola Matangi is Predator Deck in

1250
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: Predator bad Lands, and Demetrius is with us. Good morning,

1251
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: good morning, Now I'm very well. Indeed, let's have a

1252
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: talk first of all about the movie itself, when it

1253
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: was made, where it was made, how it was made,

1254
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: and how you got the part. Talk us through it.

1255
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 13: So pretty much filmed in New Zealand, which was really exciting,

1256
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 13: I guess just being from here, got to share case

1257
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 13: a lot of New Zealand locations and just show off

1258
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 13: the beautiful country. But yeah, getting the part was quite

1259
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 13: a funny process, just auditioning as pro and yeah, my

1260
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 13: character is obviously an alien, SOHO doesn't really speak English,

1261
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 13: so I had to do a taken just like a

1262
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 13: made up language, which was funny. I did you know

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 13: that was going to be asked you No, So we

1264
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 13: didn't even know what the production was during the auditioning stage.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 13: They just said that this will be a creature from

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 13: another planet, so you just take it and put your

1267
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 13: own little spin on it. And it was funny because

1268
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 13: I just like kind of integrated like salmon and tonguing

1269
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 13: like into my language when I did it, and obviously

1270
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 13: worked got me the job, which was quite fun. And

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 13: then had to do like a little obstacle course show

1272
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 13: how I move. And then yeah, we were.

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01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: Because because the interesting thing in the movie. A couple

1274
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: of observations in the movie. First of all, you look enormous, yes,

1275
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: in the movie. In fact, you're supposed to be in

1276
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: excess of seven foot.

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01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 13: Yeah all uh, something like that. So my character is

1278
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 13: actually the runt of like the little so he's an

1279
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 13: undersized predator, so he's not as large as the other ones,

1280
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 13: which is why he's kind of outcast from the culture

1281
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 13: and from his clan. Right, So yeah, it's pretty funny.

1282
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 13: Everyone will see me and they're like, wait, you're playing

1283
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 13: the Predator, bro, You're not even You're not even that big.

1284
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: Did you know about the Predators franchise, the series of

1285
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: movies before you auditioned?

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 13: Or yeah, so my dad's a massive fan of the

1287
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 13: first one. We used to watch that one a lot

1288
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 13: growing up, And yeah, I know about the universe and

1289
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 13: like the I think the characters so iconic, Like you

1290
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 13: don't even need to watch the movie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so if you know about something, especially with

1292
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: your dad and it goes back to the eighties of course,

1293
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: the original movie, So if you go back to that

1294
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: and you're now part of that, yeah, it's crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's amazing.

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Speaker 13: It's pretty surreal, to be honest, it kind of hasn't

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Speaker 13: really sunk in. Still they I'm a part of something

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Speaker 13: so big like the Yeah, the franchise has such a

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Speaker 13: massive fan beast, like you said, like spans like twenty years.

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Speaker 13: Yeah you know, and yeah, it's kind of crazy to

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Speaker 13: think that I'm now part of it.

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Speaker 2: So you got the part the language itself in the

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Speaker 2: movie was that scripted is the wrong word, I suppose,

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Speaker 2: But did you add lib the whole thing? Or was

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Speaker 2: there some expectation that there was a sort of a

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Speaker 2: structure to it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So when I jumped on, I had thought I could

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Speaker 13: just freestyle and do my own thing, which I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 13: this is going to be fantastic, no lines. But then

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Speaker 13: they were like, oh, we're gonna sit you up with

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Speaker 13: the zoom call with this guy named Britain who constructed

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Speaker 13: the whole language. So they pretty much made a language

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Speaker 13: like it's a it's a literal language now and I

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Speaker 13: had to learn those lines. And I was like, I

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Speaker 13: have to learn a whole made up language, like I

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Speaker 13: struggle speaking someone's song and you know, I have to

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Speaker 13: learn this. It was fun, it was cool, Like.

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Speaker 2: How long did it take you? And can you still

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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I can still do it's it was so we had

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Speaker 13: like a month of proper pre production prep. So they

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Speaker 13: gave me pretty much it just like a month and

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Speaker 13: a little bit to just get the language down, get

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Speaker 13: the sounds right. There's a lot of different like clicking

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Speaker 13: noises and yeah, there's no like lips, like because you

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Speaker 13: don't have lips to a lot of the letters, like

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Speaker 13: you can't do like p's or m's, Like it's all

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Speaker 13: very like, yeah, it was explained.

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Speaker 2: People who haven't seen it. I mean your character. I mean,

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01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: in really simple terms, you look like you got a

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Speaker 2: sack on your head sort of, don't you.

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Speaker 13: That's that's pretty much.

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Speaker 2: So what did they hire you? What did they see

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Speaker 2: in you to hire you?

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Speaker 13: I think movement was one, and then because a lot

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Speaker 13: of it was facial capture, so they pretty much just

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 13: took my feace and put the predators on top of

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Speaker 13: it and used my emotions and my facial expressions right

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Speaker 13: to Yeah, pretty much, you've done that. No, this is

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 13: my first time doing any kind of super performing or.

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Speaker 2: Was it freaky?

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01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 14: It was hot?

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Speaker 13: It was it was I was switting a lot. Yeah,

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01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 13: it was really just there was like a lot going on.

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Speaker 13: But I think it really helped my acting because there

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Speaker 13: was just a lot that kind of takes you out

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Speaker 13: of the scene, but you have to force yourself to

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Speaker 13: just stee in.

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Speaker 2: It because because it's clear. But also to and from

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01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: what I've seen the movies, it's it's how much of

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Speaker 2: it's I don't know what the phrases c gi'ed or

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: imposed later on. In other words, are you just standing

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: in front of the green screen? Trying to make this

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: look real or was some of it real anyway? In location?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, most of it was shown on location, so yeah,

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Speaker 13: I think that's why. Yeah, filming in New zeal was

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 13: a bonus because we probably pretty much have the best

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Speaker 13: locations in the world. And yeah, I was in a

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Speaker 13: prosthetic suit, so everything around my body was like everything

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01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 13: you see I was wearing except for the feast. So

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Speaker 13: the feast was just cut up so that they could

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Speaker 13: capture the expressions.

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01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: How much did it take you to get rid of

1366
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: every day putting that on and off and getting sort And.

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Speaker 13: I was lucky because it was only like an hour, Like, yeah,

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01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 13: it just comes down of course, no makup, Yeah, no makeup.

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 13: But yeah, once it's on, it's on and you can't

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Speaker 13: really move.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. List and hold on might come back

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Speaker 2: in the moment Demetrious Kill lower my tonguey Predator More

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Speaker 2: in a Moment twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks it Be News Talks sixteen past a Demetrius Kloa

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Speaker 2: Matungy is with a star of the latest Predator movie, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I notice is doing well. The boxes

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Speaker 2: give you numbers in just a moment. Anyway, listen, how

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Speaker 2: I want to know how they do this because there's

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Speaker 2: basically two of you in the movie, your co star

1382
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: a your co star turns up with half a body missing? Yep, yep?

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01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: How do they do that? And how do you act

1384
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: in that?

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 13: So l pretty much had to just wear like blue

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 13: pants and then her top half was all set for

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 13: screen and then her legs are just blue and they're

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 13: like held up by like ropes. And it's a lot

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01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 13: of imagination.

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: But this this is the acting thing, yeah, isn't it.

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 13: It was a lot yeah, just happening, especially with the

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 13: rigging because since she can't walk, I have to carry

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01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 13: you on my back.

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01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: Did you literally have to do that?

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01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 13: So we were like strapped together a lot back to back,

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 13: which was quite funny.

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Speaker 2: Well see, that's the funny thing about the movie. There

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: was humor in the movie, And I mean it was

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01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: a humorous, but it's a sci fi and all that stuff,

1401
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: and it's got good humor to it. Yeah.

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 13: I think just the situation itself was humorous, Like we

1403
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 13: weren't trying to play too much comedy. I think the

1404
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 13: comedy just came through and like what was happening is

1405
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 13: like so ridiculous. It just makes it funny, which is

1406
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 13: really cool. Like a lot of the reactions like to

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 13: the film, so like, yeah, the comedic beats are quite funny.

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Because I just I didn't realize she was strapped you back.

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01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean I saw her strapped you back, but I

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: assume that that wasn't Yeah. Also, so she's physically strapped

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, this seems like a low tech movie

1412
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: because something I was like a high tech movies. Actually,

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01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: you're strapping your actors to your back for God's sake.

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01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, I know, my shoulders are quite sore after, but

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 13: it's good training.

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: Do they have rules and regulations around that? And you

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01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: know injury prevention and insurance cover and you know I

1419
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: would what if you dropped it?

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 13: Oh man, probably have to get recast or something. But

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01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 13: you know I was quite safe and the stunt team

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 13: and shut like that. Yeah, those things wouldn't really happen

1423
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 13: with the risk.

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Speaker 2: Cause is this your sort of movie? I mean, as

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01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: an actor, of course it is. You do what you know,

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: but you you would watch this sort of movie.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, to be honest, I think just like the whole

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01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 13: premise of it. You know, it's an underdog story. It's

1429
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 13: like the first of its kind in the franchise, you

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 13: know where it's the first film that follows the predatize

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Speaker 13: the protagonist.

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, like all of these elements are quite interesting to

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01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 13: me just in general.

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Speaker 2: So and and Elle, you mentioned el El Fanning and

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: she's a name, so she did you know of her? Yeah?

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01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 13: Of course, I think everyone knows her well.

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01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, were you kind of like freaked

1439
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: out by it all?

1440
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 13: I think I was as nervous at for us. I

1441
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 13: was like, yeah, she has such a massive presence. Like

1442
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 13: I was kind of not intimidated, but I was just like,

1443
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 13: oh man, if she's going to be a diva, this

1444
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 13: is going to be a long shoot.

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01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: And she wasn't. She doesn't. I don't know it, but

1446
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: she doesn't. I've seen a lot of videos and stuff

1447
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: and she doesn't. She seems like a perfectly normal Personah.

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Speaker 13: No, She's so kind the like yeah, and like really

1449
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 13: good at her job, knew how to like kind of

1450
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 13: run the set and you know, makes people feel really good.

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Speaker 2: Is she helpful as an actor?

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, definitely, she I picked up a lot of game

1453
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 13: from her, just like watching her process and how she

1454
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 13: interacts with hers and yeah, just the way she is

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01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 13: on set.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. So you you seem to me to be

1457
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: a young man living their dream. Oh, I mean you're

1458
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: on your way. I mean this is your part of

1459
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: a franchise. Now I assume there's a potential for more.

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Speaker 13: Man, hopefully, God willing, we'll see it's yeah, it's it's

1461
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 13: been really good so far. We'll just trace the addit.

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Speaker 2: And good on. Well, good luck with the movie because

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01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: it was made a while ago, so you know, these

1464
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 2: things take time, and by the time it gets to

1465
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: the theaters and the streaming and all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: it's you.

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Speaker 13: Know, yeah, man, is that saying good things take time?

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 13: Hopefully this is a good thing, and.

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Speaker 2: Well, all the very best with it. Nice to talk

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much, YouTube brother, thank for having.

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Speaker 2: Demetrius Kloa Matangi. I'll give you the numbers out of

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Speaker 2: to be frank one point three million overall of America

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Speaker 2: one point three million. The story Christy is Christy Martin.

1511
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: She was a Hall of Fame boxer. Opened in two thousand,

1512
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven theaters, so that's revenue per theater

1513
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: of six hundred and forty nine dollars. Ranked the top

1514
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: twelve worst ever four movies showing on more than two

1515
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: thousand screens. Three of those four were released just right

1516
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: after COVID. People that want to go back to them.

1517
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: So now that they do, they've thought, Oh, Sydney, is.

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Speaker 14: She a good actor?

1519
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. She's got good genes though, and in

1520
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: that I think is probably part of the problem. Very

1521
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: good piece I can tell you about Christopher Stevens. Look

1522
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: it up if you want to. It's about Tim Davey.

1523
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Who's he. He's the guy who used to run the BBC.

1524
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: As of yesterday, any one of the scandals that has

1525
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: rocked the BBC in the past five years could have

1526
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: been enough to force Director General Tim Davey to resign.

1527
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: The most awful aspect of the Trump travesty, he writes,

1528
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: was how predictable it seemed. Since Tim Davey took over

1529
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: as Director General in September of twenty twenty, the BBC

1530
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: has been tarred by scandals that damaged the reputation of

1531
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: almost all its department sports, news, music, radio, primetime entertainment.

1532
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: In the past couple of years. The scandals have come

1533
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: so quickly that each one displaced the last. In order

1534
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: to weather the storm, the DG had only to hang

1535
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: on until the next one blew up. He was repeatedly

1536
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: rescued by his own inability to get a grip. His

1537
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: entire career can be seen as an example of what

1538
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: management types call failing upwards, a form of promotion built

1539
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: on blithe confidence in his own inadequacies. Brilliantly put, so

1540
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: he's gone. He used to work for Pepsi. It's worth

1541
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: reading the article because when he was with Pepsi, he

1542
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: was in the promotion. What I couldn't work out is

1543
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: he worked from Pepsi and then he went somewhere weird

1544
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 2: and then the next thing he's the DG of the BBC,

1545
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: and it couldn't work out. That's a leap. Anyway, he

1546
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: relaunched or helped relaunch Pepsi into Pepsi Blue, and they

1547
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: painted a plain blue and it cost hundreds of millions

1548
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: of dollars and it was broadly seen as a flop.

1549
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: So if I was on the board of the BBC,

1550
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: going is that the guy painted the plain blue, Well,

1551
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: we're not going to have him, or maybe they could

1552
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 2: find nobody else. Somebody else I was listening to yesterday

1553
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: was saying, basically, the DG's job at the BBC now

1554
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: is literally an impossible job because you've got all the

1555
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: henchmen in the newsroom who pretend they're not biased, and

1556
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: you've got all the politics of a government that don't

1557
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: necessarily like you, and you've got all the hatred of

1558
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: the British public, who of course funds you. And it's

1559
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: a just a hopeless position. You can't possibly be in

1560
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: a winning position. Speaking of media, by the way, ITV

1561
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: are in talks to sell their television business to Sky TV,

1562
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: not Sky here, but Sky Britain. So we'll talk about

1563
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: that more with Roden. Just a couple of moments after

1564
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 2: the News, which is heads.

1565
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: To reviews, Talk ZB Opinion, Edit, Informed, Undapologetic, the Mic asking,

1566
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since

1567
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, News Talks Dead b.

1568
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: Mike Antonia Watson interviews Well, no ducking and diving, and

1569
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: she just answers the questions and speaks, Well, it was

1570
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: this time last hour, we're talking to the head of

1571
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: the A and Z. Mike. Open banking makes it easier

1572
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: to move, but you'll need to get them, drag them

1573
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: kicking and screaming before we get there. Well, that was

1574
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: all part of the banking review, of course, and we're

1575
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: going to have some open banking in this country. But

1576
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: the as I read, and I've read several reports on

1577
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: open banking which is available in Australia, it's not the

1578
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: game chap. If you think it's a game changer, it's

1579
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 2: not the game changer. Is it easier technically, yes, But

1580
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 2: then I think we've elevated in our mind the ability

1581
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: to move banks. Banks are so possible when it's not,

1582
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: you can if you want to, I mean, isbs as

1583
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: I keep repeating these numbers of hoove it up, apparently

1584
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: six thousand new customers as here. Where do you think

1585
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 2: they came from? They came from another bank, So it

1586
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: is doable. So if you think open banking is a

1587
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,440
Speaker 2: magic bullet, you're probably going to be disappointed.

1588
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 19: Twenty three to nine International correspondence with ins and Eye

1589
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 19: Insurance Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business in Britain

1590
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 19: on a little morning to.

1591
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Speaker 20: You mate, good morning.

1592
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can only imagine. I mean, it's

1593
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: a big story here, for goodness sake, I can only

1594
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: imagine how big it is in your part of the world.

1595
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: As far as clusters go, and previous clusters involving the BBC,

1596
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: where does this one sit?

1597
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 20: I think rather high because it's about editorial standards and

1598
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 20: that's what the BBC has always banked its reputational You know,

1599
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 20: I mentioned this story to you last week when it

1600
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 20: was making no headway whatsoever, which is no headway at all,

1601
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 20: and yet suddenly it has, partly I think as a

1602
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 20: consequence of Donald Trump's intervention, who picked up on some

1603
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 20: of the stuff that we were all writing over here.

1604
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 20: Needless to say, the BBC is in a state of

1605
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 20: complete and utter denial about it. If you listen to

1606
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 20: their morning bullet in, the Today Program or the five

1607
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 20: o'clock show PM, they're all saying a right wing coup

1608
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 20: has occurred within the BBC and we're all being penalized

1609
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 20: for it, and there's nothing wrong without journalism. It's a

1610
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 20: remarkable show of something defiance. I don't know. I think

1611
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 20: it's a show of ignorance that they just don't know

1612
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 20: the trouble they're in.

1613
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that because the woman who

1614
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: fell on his sawed yesterday along with the DG. She

1615
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: was out there this morning and I believe that she

1616
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 2: believes when she goes and we're not biased, I believe

1617
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: that she believes that. But she doesn't obviously understand just

1618
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: how out to lunch she clearly is, and the rest

1619
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: of the world doesn't see her the same way she

1620
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: sees herself.

1621
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 20: No, that's right. I think that's right. Because she comes

1622
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 20: from for you know, BBC background, they're all in the

1623
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 20: same bubble together. She probably thinks that being in favor

1624
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 20: of her mass is kind of civilized, and that taking

1625
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 20: the wilder views on trans issues, there was also a

1626
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 20: question of civility. Samir Shah said the same thing. He's

1627
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 20: the chairman of the BBC. He said he didn't think

1628
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 20: that the BBC was institutionally biased. I don't believe he

1629
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 20: thinks that. No, I think he knows that it is because.

1630
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know him. I mean, but why would

1631
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: he do that if what you say's creed? Why would

1632
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: he go and say that?

1633
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 20: I think because what he feels he needs to do

1634
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 20: now is hold the BBC together in the wake of

1635
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 20: two of its most damaging resignations. The DJ in head

1636
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 20: of News, incidentally, the guy, the guy who said that

1637
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 20: the editing of the Panorama documentary was normal practice, remains

1638
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 20: head of News Content. God knows how, but there we are.

1639
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 20: So I think he is trying to pull the BBC together,

1640
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 20: but there's an existential threat. You know, if Donald Trump

1641
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 20: really does sue for a billion of quid, well that's

1642
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 20: kind of the end of the BBC, isn't it.

1643
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Well that it comes back to the business. Ironically,

1644
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: we must not forget there was the Parliament to inquiry

1645
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: which is due to go this week on Gaza and

1646
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: train so they head form and then you can't forget

1647
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: the fact it is publicly hunted. You know, text payers

1648
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, pay for all of this, which leads to

1649
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: the question if it's biased and they've been caught and

1650
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: it's a problem, what do they do about it?

1651
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 20: Well, you see, this is a huge problem because I

1652
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 20: don't know that there's very much they can do. I

1653
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 20: spoke to Tim Davey when he became director general and

1654
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 20: he was well aware that there was a bias and

1655
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 20: he said as much, you know, he said, yes, there's

1656
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 20: a bias. He said, can we can put we can

1657
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 20: that right? And they thought they were winning the battle.

1658
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 20: You listened to this today, Freden and PM. It's still

1659
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 20: exactly the same stuff. And this this wasn't an attack

1660
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 20: from the right wing press. This dossier which which we're

1661
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 20: all reading at the moment. It wasn't, you know, the

1662
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 20: Murdoch Empire or the far right. It was their own

1663
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 20: editorial advisor who said, I'm afraid you're I'm shocked. They

1664
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 20: called it shocking, bias and discrimination in one direction. Remarkable.

1665
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: Somebody said yesterday, I can't I can't remember who it was,

1666
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: but the suggestion was that the DG's job is now undoable.

1667
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: You can't be a DG at the BBC. It's such

1668
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: a cluster. No one can fix it. Is that fail.

1669
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 20: It's certainly a job you wouldn't want, you know, whereas

1670
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 20: it used to be the greatest job in broader And

1671
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 20: of course it is true. And this is partly a

1672
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 20: consequence of our changing market, which is that there are

1673
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 20: people out there who will attack the BBC for ideological

1674
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 20: and commercial reasons and will keep on doing so and

1675
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 20: keep on dooing so and forcing the BBC.

1676
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 18: To react.

1677
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 20: By the same token, the BBC with social media and

1678
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 20: all this kind of stuff, the BBC is far more

1679
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 20: open now and we can see where it's where it's

1680
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 20: causing problems for itself. So it is a very very

1681
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 20: difficult job. And I you know, I feel some sympathy

1682
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 20: with Tim Davey.

1683
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, having said that, I was going to the boss here,

1684
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: and I thought he made a reason. See when Lenka

1685
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: was there, I couldn't kill this what he thinks. He

1686
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: can be anything he wants as long as he's good

1687
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: at the football, that's all we're playing him for. And

1688
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: yet he got himself an endless amount of political trouble.

1689
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: What about all the DJs on the music stations who

1690
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: are out there. You know, there's a lot that the

1691
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: BBC does that's actually very popular, very successful, and very

1692
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: good that doesn't have any journalistic attachment to it at all,

1693
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: And it must be hard working for an organization that's

1694
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 2: dreadfully tainted. You're actually nothing to.

1695
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 12: Do with it.

1696
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 20: Well, no, indeed, And I remember when Greg'sduk came in

1697
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 20: as director General when I was working at the BBC,

1698
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 20: and he said, God, if I could only get rid

1699
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 20: of news, it would be fine. And indeed, last week

1700
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 20: everyone was in euphoria celebrating the final episode of Celebrity Traitors,

1701
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 20: which has been described as a television event of the year.

1702
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 20: That's something the BBC got very right. But over the years,

1703
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 20: even the good stuff has become tainted. You know, the

1704
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 20: dramas and now invariably are about some kind of intersectional

1705
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 20: politics issue. You know, the comedians tend to be all

1706
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 20: from the left. It infests everywhere because it's such an

1707
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 20: authoritarian dot other far left. So we're talking about the

1708
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 20: far left. You know, it's not the center left, it's

1709
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 20: the far left. And the BBC's sort why have we

1710
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 20: got an lgbtqu unit is the BBC? There isn't one

1711
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 20: at ITV, you know, why have one?

1712
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: It's very good question speaking of it TV. By the way,

1713
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: just quickly, can they sell the television business to Sky

1714
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: without some sort of regulator going we'll hold on here

1715
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: you are or now dominate a tremendous amount of the market.

1716
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 20: I don't know, it's the short answer to their my suspicion.

1717
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 20: And my suspicion is they probably can these days, but

1718
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Speaker 20: I don't know enough about it. I shall can up

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Speaker 20: from when we next, from.

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Speaker 2: When we next, prepare yourself, prepare, prepare yourself for Thursday. Rod,

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Speaker 2: there will be at least sixteen questions on that subject

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Speaker 2: coming your way. I appreciate your times always, Rod Little Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so ITV. So the television business gets sold to Sky

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01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 2: also in Britain, doesn't include the production stuff. The production

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01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: stuff as I'm a celebrity, Love Island all that other bollocks,

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01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: but they will have They about seventy percent of the

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01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: UK television advertising market if it goes ahead. So I

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Speaker 2: would have thought somebody, someone has got to have a

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Speaker 2: look at that.

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Speaker 1: It's eight forty five The like Asking Breakfast Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by news Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Post this morning has got a hilarious piece

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Speaker 2: on Tory far Now. So the portrait, we told you

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: about it at the time. So they suggested the council

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: that for meryal portraits you need the photograph, not a painting.

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Speaker 2: Paintings are more expensive than a photograph. So she ignores that,

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01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: of course, because she's so much better than you and

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01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: I are. So she went and got the painting done.

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01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: But then having got the painting done, she then goes

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Speaker 2: and holds a special at ratepayers expense, of course, a

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01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: special revealing party for family and friends, just just some

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01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 2: close family and friends, and at Roweth's Gallery two hundred

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: gourmet Canna pays from Nosh Catering. I don't know whether

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01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: Anosha any good Bye, size, crispy potato and corn, beef gilletts,

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: chicken Teeka skewers basic a chicken Tiker skewre vegan and

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 2: gluten free of course, some tire salad, rice, paper wraps.

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Speaker 2: They're a little bit tricky, you know, that walk and

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 2: fork thing. It's a little bit tricky, isn't it? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: We pay for all of that washed down with I

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 2: thought to be frank for thirty people a fairly meager

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Speaker 2: offering of beer and wine two hundred seventy six dollars

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Speaker 2: and twenty cents. I mean there's not a lot of

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 2: beer and wine, and that I don't mean to be

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: very cheap beer and wine, I'm assuming, but two hundred

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Speaker 2: seventy six.

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Speaker 14: I've gone through that that just by myself some nights.

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Speaker 2: Well that's well, if you think about it in terms

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: of people at it's less than one hundred dollars for thirty.

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01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: It's very I mean, it's a can of beer, isn't it. Anyway?

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Speaker 2: We paid for it, so God bless her. Do you

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01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: remember that when she runs for the Greens, which she will,

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01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Or do you go, oh, toy shit.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how many of the Green voters are

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01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 14: listening to you listening that off?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, are you saying we don't have a big Green audience?

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Speaker 2: Clean you'd need to offer proce.

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Speaker 14: I just saying I don't know how many I'd have

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Speaker 14: to dig down into the.

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Speaker 2: I reckon we're at I think we're hot with the Greens.

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Speaker 2: By the way they issued I didn't realize they did that.

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: You know, the people who do the MP salaries, the

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Speaker 2: Remuneration Authority, which is an independent authority, the Remuneration Authority

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 2: for reasons, I equally don't know this either, but they

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 2: announced yesterday the review of incomes for the Wanganui, Ruher

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 2: pay WHO and rang Atiki councils. So they don't do

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01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: it all at once. I would have thought it was

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: an are than one exercise. But anyway, massive pay increases,

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01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: huge pay increases for councils Wanganui. Your council is getting

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01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: a twenty five and a half percent pay rise. Horizons

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: are not as bad, but you're getting a very large

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01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: pay rise as well, and a six and a half

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01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: percent pay rise in Rangatiki. In Rangatiki, if you're a

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Speaker 2: councilor of thirty thousand dollars a year, which isn't a lot.

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: The Horizons area, which is one of a two fifty

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: grand if you're in Wanganui. It's serious. Coin Meya gets

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01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six, but in the councilor gets

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: fifty grand. It doesn't matter whether you're any good or

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01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: not because we don't count it that way. It's just

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Speaker 2: a human, you know. But twenty five percent a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, isn't it. And what happened to a cost

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01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 2: of living crisis, clearly that doesn't count anymore. Eight minutes

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Speaker 2: away from none, it's so my.

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Speaker 3: Costing breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news dogs.

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Speaker 2: mentioned me, Mike Mkae, Mike, that's me, you received fifty percent. Oh,

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Speaker 2: come on, that was too much. Fifty percent just for me?

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Speaker 2: Night Manager too. I watched it yesterday, the trailer. I

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01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: got excited for season two because I saw by accident

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Speaker 2: Night Manager one a few months ago. Anyway, it's been

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Speaker 2: an age coming nine years to even get this.

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Speaker 3: Shall we begin?

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Speaker 5: Is there anything keeping you awake an I and romantically

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01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 5: any developments on that front.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Columnia.

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Speaker 5: A lot of intelligence officers come through this room, the

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Speaker 5: ones I really worry about saying nothing.

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01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 3: And then one day explode. Tell me where you really are.

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01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 13: I'm the man.

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Speaker 3: Who will not explode.

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Speaker 2: When I say a couple of months ago. I came

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01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 2: to it late, obviously, and I discovered it by excident.

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Speaker 2: I think it could have been over I can't remember when,

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: you know. I thought that looks all right. Then we

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01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: got engrossed, and then I discovered the trailer yesterday. But

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01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: of course, the disappointing thing about the trailer yesterday is

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Speaker 2: the thing's not out until the eleventh of January, for

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01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 2: goodness sake, so it's still months ago. It's going to

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01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: be on Prime Video, which is I think it's one

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Speaker 2: of those streaming services that keeps Do all your streaming

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01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: services keep booting you off like minded? Or is that

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01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: just a little technical problem for me?

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Speaker 14: I think you need to get you your technical person

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 14: under there.

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Actually, Paul's coming around soon for the big Talian stare

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01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: end of November. It's happening. It's very exciting, way more

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Speaker 2: exciting for me than you listening to this. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you're bore witnessed by this story. Anyway, back tomorrow Morning,

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Speaker 2: Happy Days

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